IRC log for #gooseproject on 20111003

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14:55.04herlowow, now that was a rough start to the day :(
14:59.12Nushioherlo: i could've had it worse
14:59.29Nushiofriday i burned a special knoppix cd that creates raid arrays automatically
14:59.35Nushioit starts doing that by wiping the harddrive
14:59.55Nushioi forgot i left the cd on my laptop on friday, and today when i booted, i was seconds away from formatting my laptop's harddrive
15:00.07goozbacheeek!
15:00.09goozbachmorning all
15:00.11goozbachherlo: pong
15:00.19goozbachI spent the weekened away from computers
15:00.22goozbachI needed a brake
15:00.28goozbachand a break too
15:05.58herlogoozbach: hi
15:06.12herlowell, I'm teaching atm, crazy morning here so far
15:06.35herloclass on new systems on a new network in a new TC, so crazy, crazy morning!
15:06.50herlos/class/new class/
15:26.39makfinskyGoose morning all.
15:27.06makfinskySounds like some much needed and deserved rest was had this weekend.
15:27.15makfinskyAnd some challenges this morning.
15:40.07herlohehe, yeah
16:59.23makfinskyUgh, that bundling argument doesn't make sense to me.
17:00.21makfinskyJust read the two posts about that and I have to say that bundling sounds like a support nightmare. FOr both software providers and OS distributors.
17:00.27makfinskyAnd IT depts.
17:30.27herlomakfinsky: I do agree
17:30.53makfinskyAren't *bundles* the way OSX distrbutes software?
17:31.21makfinskyAnd windows apparently, at least from what I read in the comments sections...
17:31.31makfinskySeems to me bundles create more issues than they solve.
17:32.24makfinskyAs for the *breakage*, if you're using a Fedora or Ubuntu on a work laptop, you had better know about it's pitfalls. Otherwise, you should be using something like RHEL Desktop, imo.
17:32.53goozbachbitbucket.org does git now: https://bitbucket.org/goozbach/planet.gooseproject.org
17:33.06makfinskyEL breaks things much less often than free distros on updates.
17:33.22goozbachso it should be pretty easy to jump ship if github doesn't play nice!
17:35.54herloyay...
17:36.35goozbachlooks like the issues don't translate from an import
17:36.41goozbachso we'll have to back them up some other way
17:36.54goozbachhttps://bitbucket.org/goozbach/gooseproject-main/overview
17:36.59goozbachbut that's pretty cool
17:37.14herlothat is good!
17:37.25herlogoozbach: it would mean that we would have to recreate our tools somewhat though
17:37.52herlogoozbach: I might consider ripping that out though and abstracting it so that all the github calls are cleaner, now that you point that out :)
17:39.30goozbachabstracting it a bit would be ideal
17:39.38goozbachbut let's not optimise for that quite yet
17:39.41herloyeah, I'll do that for koji too, I think...
17:39.51goozbachjust build with that in mind I suppose
17:39.54herlogoozbach: well, I think it's a good time to do it, since I'm rewriting for 2.0 anyway
17:40.39goozbachI've been thinking about backup, restore, fork, and the folks who'll scream "YOU CAN'T HOST OPEN SOURCE ON GITHUB!!!"
17:40.57goozbachand if we could point to various locations where things are backed up that'll fix both
17:41.00herlomeh, f*$& 'em :)
17:41.15goozbachheck, kernel.org is still down no?
17:41.15herlokids, of course.
17:41.23goozbachyup
17:41.32herlowell, it's being rebuilt from the ground up, aiui
17:41.41goozbachand guess where Linus himself is hosting kernel sources...
17:41.45goozbachgood enough for me
17:42.06goozbachover 300 github forks
17:42.08goozbachawesome!
17:44.02herlohehe, I'm sure github is happy about that
17:45.35goozbachheck, I'd imagine it's a great promotion for them
17:45.47goozbach"see even linux is hosted here and we can handle it"
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19:15.58shalkie<PROTECTED>
19:16.56makfinskyGoose afternoon shalkie.
19:18.05shalkieAfternoon makfinsky.
19:18.31goozbachany meeting topic ideas?
19:19.19makfinskyNot off hand.
19:19.31shalkieI'm drawing a blank.
19:20.01goozbachimagines shalkie moving a non-marking pencil over an empty page
19:20.38shalkieIts a magic invisible ink.
19:21.03shalkieI make it myself with the bitter sweet tears of the yellow fruit.
19:21.08shalkie:-D
19:22.42shalkiehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_ink
19:24.24goozbachuses a lightbulb to read "I'm drawing a blank" appear on the blank page
20:54.24herlojust had a nice conversation with a guy in #koji about goose.
20:54.38herlohe asked why and the same old stuff, but he seemed really intrigued.
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21:31.55herloNafai: ping
21:32.13Nafaipong
21:32.17Nafaisorry, rough weekend
21:33.36Nafaiherlo ^
21:34.16herloNafai: sorry for what?
21:34.33herlowasn't expecting anything...
21:34.51Nafaiokay, good :)
21:36.32herloNafai: I think we were on the grapple project at one point, but it's not like there's a huge rush.
21:36.48herloNafai: better start to the week than the weekend?
21:36.50Nafaik
21:37.00Nafaieh, not really, but trying
21:37.28herlohmm, okay
21:37.36herlosends some goodwill toward Nafai
21:38.35herloNafai: if you have some time later on today, I'd like to hack some more on it and get your help
21:39.12Nafaidefinitely, just trying to get some things figured out, but in a couple hours or so I should be able to
21:39.36herloperfect. I'm going to grab some food and will be back around 5ish
21:39.53Nafaik
21:39.53herloNafai: I'm in ET this week, btw
21:40.08Nafainods
21:40.08makfinskyherlo: That's right, you are an alien.
21:40.11herloBoston, to be more specific
21:40.16herlomakfinsky: so are you!
21:40.24makfinskyTrue, true...
21:40.28makfinsky:P
21:40.30herlomakfinsky: that's why we get along :)
21:40.39goozbachboooston
21:41.19herlogoozbach: haha, In WalthAm. used to always go to Westford. Ahh, how times are a changin'
21:41.55shalkieWaltham? I guess RH is moving in now that SuSE is moving back to Provo...
21:42.12makfinskySorta...
21:43.07herlomakfinsky: heh, it's just where the TC is. RH is still very much in Westford
21:43.50herlos/makfinsky/shalkie/
21:44.17shalkieheh. Just another smart ass comment.
21:44.21shalkieshrugs
21:44.42shalkiewas refering to his smartass comment.
21:58.14goozbach116 visits from the larry the freesoftware guy blog post to the intntro blog post!
21:58.58herlonice
21:59.24goozbach220 overall the last week
21:59.37goozbach58 from feedburner
23:35.55herlogoozbach: that rocks!
23:36.15herloNafai: hey. Just about ready to hack on grapple some more, you up for helping?
23:36.51Nafaisure thing
23:36.55herloawesome!
23:37.04herloso did you see that I got it running the other day?
23:37.27herlowell, I *had* it working!
23:37.29Nafaiyeah, cool
23:37.32Nafaiwhat happened?
23:37.50herlodunno
23:37.52herlolooking now
23:38.05herlokind of weird, actually
23:38.21herlooh, haha
23:38.24herloit works
23:38.36herloI just need to add my ip to the whitelist, yours too
23:38.38herloNafai: ^^
23:38.45NafaiAh :)
23:39.28NafaiGlad that code is working as it should.
23:39.33herlohehe, indeed!
23:41.32herloNafai: you able to see it?
23:41.47Nafaitries
23:42.11herlostill can't, but it's probably because there are several layers of *crap* at this hotel
23:42.50NafaiYeah, I'm still getting forbidden
23:43.19herloNafai: me too
23:43.24herloseems like something else is going on
23:43.25Nafaiwondering if this is an apache config thing?
23:43.32herlooh, yeah
23:43.37herlogoes to fix it there too
23:44.34herloNafai: try it now
23:44.47Nafaiyup, works
23:45.05herlow00t!
23:45.08herlofixed by ME!
23:45.16Nafai:)
23:45.54NafaiSo what were you wanting to hack on tonight?
23:46.05herloI need to get the db working
23:46.13herlopoints out http://www.youtube.com/user/RocketWolf#p/u/0/4J_Iksu1fgo :)
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23:46.51NafaiNice
23:47.10herlohehe, ya
23:47.13herlonice of him to create it
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23:49.48herloNafai: so I'm going to create the db and then we can do a post from a test repo :)
23:50.08Nafaisounds good
23:52.01herlois there a better place than the docroot to put the db? I was thinking something like /var/lib/grapple/grapple.db ??
23:52.37Nafaiyeah, that should be good
23:52.44Nafailet me glance at the docs
23:52.56herlok
23:54.52Nafaiso it's not obvious how to specify a full path.  I'd try changing the db parameter to be pathname and see if that works
23:55.03Nafaithen that's a great candidate of something to move into a config file
23:55.03herloyeah, okay
23:55.44herloindeed
23:56.49herloNafai: k, I'm working on getting the db all sorted
23:57.35NafaiI can add the config file stuff
23:57.43Nafaipretty simple, I've done it a lot before
23:59.41herlok
23:59.57herloNafai: I'll probably want your help when I migrate skein and chase that way as well

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