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| 05:36.06 | thebolt | hi all |
| 05:36.13 | summatusmentis | hi thebolt |
| 05:36.13 | araujo | hello |
| 05:36.35 | summatusmentis | how goes it? |
| 05:37.43 | thebolt | alive again after my flight back from the summit :) |
| 05:37.46 | thebolt | and you? |
| 05:38.14 | araujo | thebolt, how the summit was? |
| 05:38.19 | summatusmentis | trying to stay alive so I can do spanish homework :) |
| 05:38.43 | thebolt | araujo: good summit was :) |
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| 07:50.20 | AJuOnLiNE | good morning |
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| 13:02.27 | brlcad | scorche|sh: it wasn't very long at all .. just had those couple minutes before boarding :) |
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| 13:04.43 | thebolt | hi brlcad .. according ot kblinn you got some whisky this saturday which he enjoyed.. to see if hehas any taste i need to ask what kind it was ;) |
| 13:08.30 | brlcad | thebolt: it's a great single malt |
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| 13:08.55 | brlcad | thebolt: it was the Balvenie 21-year PortWood |
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| 13:09.36 | brlcad | a speyside scotch, outstanding finish, complex n' smooth |
| 13:12.20 | brlcad | it probably wasn't the best to pull out at the start of a drinking fest that lasted most of the night... as many of those partaking in the guzzling probably had no idea what they were drinking (and after a certain point, probably didn't care) .. not very cost effective :-) |
| 13:15.13 | thebolt | brlcad: ok, seems like he doeshave some taste then.. i've tried some Balvenie, not sure if it was 21 yo though |
| 13:15.33 | thebolt | but nah, thats not really the place for the above-average stuff :) |
| 13:17.50 | brlcad | yeah, I've thusfar had three balvenie's, all with a familiar good taste, but the 21 really does all some beautiful character with the smoothness factor it brings |
| 13:18.02 | brlcad | i'd love to try a vintage balvenie at some point to commpare |
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| 15:18.31 | Landon | proud of myself |
| 15:18.49 | Landon | I just learned from Resistivity to Doping to Capacitance to transistor manufacturing |
| 15:19.01 | Landon | in an hour |
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| 15:32.34 | smtms | what are NPN transistors good for? |
| 15:34.20 | thebolt | many things.. pretty much the same as PNP ;) |
| 15:34.46 | thebolt | (in fact, npn is more common than pnp) |
| 15:36.05 | thebolt | just as nmost in some cases is to prefer over pmos btw.. |
| 15:36.18 | kblin | hmm |
| 15:37.09 | thebolt | hi kblin , did any shopping yet? ;) |
| 15:37.39 | kblin | anybody with good SQL-fu here? I want to filter a table on a bunch of text fields, and want to display all rows where at least one of the fields matches.. can't seem to make that work |
| 15:38.22 | kblin | thebolt: a bit. didn't find everything on my list yet.. I'm a bit disappointed from how little choice the toysrus had |
| 15:39.56 | thebolt | kblin: what are you using now? a where with "or" should work for that.. |
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| 15:43.08 | kblin | ah, the fun part was that it's actually two tables and the join was wrong |
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| 17:15.58 | JeffM | gets a wierd project idea from lh's demand for an IRC client for her andy :) |
| 17:27.26 | Ivanovic | JeffM: i think you could really please her with creating a simple java irc client and porting this to andy |
| 17:27.54 | JeffM | Ivanovic, that it would, but I don't know java so I have more dastardly plans ;) |
| 17:28.07 | JeffM | it may not be what she'd need or use, but it would still be intersting |
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| 17:28.54 | JeffM | I want a service to stay connected to IRC and log evertything, then let clients connect to that to get the data, via HTTP or a custom client |
| 17:29.10 | JeffM | then you don't log out when you quit, you just detatch from server part |
| 17:29.16 | Ivanovic | uhm, i think there is already some stuff like this |
| 17:29.18 | JeffM | like running console IRC in screen |
| 17:29.21 | JeffM | there is, but it sucks |
| 17:29.25 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 17:29.25 | kblin | there's something similar to that |
| 17:29.33 | JeffM | yeah I've looked into it |
| 17:29.58 | JeffM | for my project I also need a web IRC client that can integrate with our auth system so I'll kill 2 birds with one big overdesigned stone :) |
| 17:30.30 | JeffM | gives me an excuse to fix more bugs in libIRC |
| 17:30.38 | Ivanovic | hehehe |
| 17:30.46 | Ivanovic | sounds like a plan for me |
| 17:31.06 | JeffM | and the HTTP server that our game uses |
| 17:31.16 | JeffM | code reuse FTW |
| 17:31.25 | kblin | hehe |
| 17:31.44 | kblin | we used to have a OOG-chat to IRC gateway in our server as well |
| 17:31.55 | JeffM | we have a web IRC client now |
| 17:31.59 | kblin | but it probably bit-rotted |
| 17:31.59 | JeffM | but it mostly gets abbused |
| 17:32.09 | JeffM | yeah it's not prety, it dosn't work |
| 17:32.26 | JeffM | I want to tie it into our web services authentication system so that ONLY players can use it |
| 17:32.31 | JeffM | and they get there in game username, etc.. |
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| 17:32.43 | JeffM | that will make it usefull for those who want to use it for legit reasons |
| 17:33.02 | JeffM | I've also got a game <-> irc bridge plugin too |
| 17:34.14 | JeffM | but then I got thinking for my IRC service thing I could do all sorts of fun things like accept DCC files, and then store them leting the client get them later via HTTP and stuff |
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| 17:34.32 | JeffM | so you really could have a persistant online presence wherever you are |
| 17:35.09 | JeffM | do some log scanning and show conversations that had terms you want to highlight on, showing N lines before and after, etc.. |
| 17:36.20 | JeffM | let you group channels by your connection method or location, so when you connect from your home you get all 30 channels, but when you connect from your phone you only get your 5 faves by default, etc.. |
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| 18:29.44 | quaid | anyone from thousandparsec.net around? |
| 18:29.56 | quaid | has LH given the all clear to open up the wiki content yet? |
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| 18:30.02 | quaid | wants to start linking to it ;-) |
| 18:30.27 | kblin | quaid: I'll poke tim |
| 18:30.40 | mithro | quaid: yes |
| 18:30.48 | mithro | quaid: have to ask her |
| 18:31.02 | mithro | i'm just the web master monkey |
| 18:33.12 | quaid | mithro: ok, thx; not a rush just want to make sure we don't forget; I gather there may be stuff there we want to remove first, etc. |
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| 18:36.32 | mithro | quaid: email the list |
| 18:36.39 | quaid | mithro: ok |
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| 18:56.34 | thiago_home | we should remove the names before making it public |
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| 19:00.09 | quaid | thiago_home: yeah, someone is going to need to actually vacuum the database entries, otherwise they'll show in the history |
| 19:00.10 | MatthewWilkes | evenin all |
| 19:00.41 | dberkholz | is anyone hiding their real name? |
| 19:01.04 | thiago_home | privacy issues |
| 19:01.09 | thiago_home | not everyone wants their names in public |
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| 19:01.32 | dberkholz | all of the mentors are already listed on the soc site |
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| 19:04.41 | quaid | maybe a few days of embargo ... tell people they can remove anything that has a privacy concern ... an admin watches the changes and makes sure that content is not in the history |
| 19:04.49 | quaid | rather than trying to presume what people do or don't care about. |
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| 19:18.53 | Catfish_Man | g'morning lh |
| 19:19.00 | lh | Catfish_Man: and to thee |
| 19:19.02 | lh | :) |
| 19:19.05 | MatthewWilkes | lh! |
| 19:19.07 | summatusmentis | o/ hi lh |
| 19:19.10 | lh | jgay: ping |
| 19:19.14 | lh | MatthewWilkes: good day dear, you home now |
| 19:19.18 | lh | summatusmentis: hello jake, how goes? :) |
| 19:19.30 | thiago_home | good morning lh |
| 19:19.37 | summatusmentis | well enough, I slept through spanish today >_> |
| 19:19.37 | MatthewWilkes | lh: I am, yeah. Even managed to get up and do a full day's consultancy |
| 19:19.40 | lh | thiago_home: hello dear, was your flight ok? |
| 19:19.45 | thiago_home | still in California :-) |
| 19:19.47 | AJuOnLiNE | sets mode +hug lh |
| 19:19.49 | lh | MatthewWilkes: nice. saw your patch too, yay! |
| 19:19.53 | lh | thiago_home: when you go home? |
| 19:19.57 | thiago_home | Saturday |
| 19:20.00 | lh | AJuOnLiNE: hello ajay, how are you my dear? |
| 19:20.07 | lh | thiago_home: want to come to the big-g for lunch tomorrow? |
| 19:20.16 | thiago_home | lh: I'd love to, but I can't. |
| 19:20.18 | AJuOnLiNE | lh: goody goody. you? |
| 19:20.22 | AJuOnLiNE | summatusmentis: o/ |
| 19:20.24 | mlankhorst | LH! |
| 19:20.27 | thiago_home | tomorrow and Thursday are the Qt Developer Days here in Redwood City |
| 19:20.29 | summatusmentis | hi AJuOnLiNE |
| 19:20.32 | mlankhorst | hugs lh and jumps on the couch |
| 19:20.37 | lh | AJuOnLiNE: life is good. |
| 19:20.41 | thiago_home | I'll be busy the entire day |
| 19:20.45 | lh | sits next to mlankhorst and hands him various candies |
| 19:21.00 | lh | thiago_home: bummer. and you are in RWC until you leave? |
| 19:21.04 | lh | thinks about how to make this work |
| 19:21.17 | thiago_home | lh: yes |
| 19:21.20 | jgay | lh: howdy |
| 19:21.20 | thiago_home | Friday is basically free |
| 19:21.26 | jgay | lh, what are you up to tonight? |
| 19:22.14 | lh | jgay: we have an invitation to dinner. we can also not go to dinner and just hang out. i am agnostic. |
| 19:22.24 | lh | is pretty exhausted and is fine with just hanging out with josh |
| 19:22.25 | lh | yay josh |
| 19:22.27 | MatthewWilkes | lh: That was just after the melange q+a session, sat out in the atrium and tried things out |
| 19:22.33 | thiago_home | lh: in any case, again, thanks for all the effort |
| 19:22.38 | lh | MatthewWilkes: i love it. thank you thank you thank you |
| 19:22.41 | thiago_home | the event was really nice |
| 19:22.45 | scorche | wonders if he is getting sick |
| 19:22.46 | lh | thiago_home: awww. y'all deserve nothing less dear |
| 19:22.49 | thiago | realises he was using the wrong nickname |
| 19:22.59 | lh | scorche: are you queasy or elsewise? |
| 19:23.05 | lh | makes scorche some delicious chamomile tea |
| 19:23.08 | mlankhorst | woei |
| 19:23.11 | mlankhorst | candy :D |
| 19:23.15 | mlankhorst | nibbles on it |
| 19:23.18 | jgay | lh will have to have dinner, too. I am swamped right now. I'll email you? |
| 19:24.21 | scorche | lh: a bit...headache, dry mouth, slept and missed the window for some assignments last night, etc =/ |
| 19:24.55 | lh | jgay: sounds perfect, just let me know. we could also have breakfast tomorrow. |
| 19:25.12 | lh | scorche: go to the doctor. if you have food poisoning it could be lingering and being mean to you. |
| 19:25.22 | mlankhorst | How was summit? |
| 19:25.26 | scorche | meh...i will wait a bity |
| 19:25.41 | lh | mlankhorst: truly spectacular. |
| 19:25.43 | lh | imho |
| 19:25.43 | scorche | mlankhorst: fun!...you should have come =( |
| 19:25.50 | lh | scorche: ok. but take care of yourself babe |
| 19:26.01 | mlankhorst | Couldn't make it sadly :( |
| 19:26.03 | mlankhorst | Too busy a month |
| 19:26.07 | scorche | so i heard |
| 19:26.47 | MatthewWilkes | lh: haha, it's just a minor code patch, working on an issue from the bugtracker during testruns now |
| 19:27.17 | lh | MatthewWilkes: i dont care if it's a minor patch. it is code that is needed. thank you for your help. |
| 19:27.24 | lh | mlankhorst: next year. |
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| 19:29.05 | mlankhorst | lh: Should be :) |
| 19:30.25 | lh | mlankhorst: yay. |
| 19:31.44 | mlankhorst | I owe you a dinner one day |
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| 19:33.46 | MatthewWilkes | I tell you, I'm really wanting an in-n-out now |
| 19:34.00 | MatthewWilkes | I'd get so fat if I kived in california |
| 19:34.03 | MatthewWilkes | lived* |
| 19:34.15 | Catfish_Man | ugh. in-n-out is not very good dude |
| 19:34.29 | MatthewWilkes | Catfish_Man: No, it's horrible and filthy and it'll kill you |
| 19:34.33 | MatthewWilkes | That's why it's awesome |
| 19:34.41 | summatusmentis | couldn't have anything to do with all the meat in it >_> |
| 19:34.43 | summatusmentis | hides |
| 19:35.00 | Catfish_Man | summatusmentis: I'm definitely something of a carnivore, but I prefer high quality burgers :P |
| 19:35.20 | lh | Catfish_Man: in n out is *fantastic* for fast food. still is fast food tho. |
| 19:35.29 | lh | needed a double meat animal style right after summit in the worst way |
| 19:35.32 | lh | and got one too. :) |
| 19:35.45 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Ah, we didn't see you there. I got a 3x3 directly after |
| 19:35.45 | summatusmentis | double meat anima style? |
| 19:35.51 | Catfish_Man | eh. I preferred the burgers from the stand a few blocks from jive |
| 19:35.54 | Catfish_Man | </spoiled> :) |
| 19:35.56 | MatthewWilkes | Catfish_Man: Do you have GBK over there? |
| 19:36.01 | Catfish_Man | GBK? |
| 19:36.24 | MatthewWilkes | Catfish_Man: http://www.gbkinfo.com/GBK_Menu.htm - They're all over here |
| 19:36.37 | Catfish_Man | nope, never seen one |
| 19:38.09 | MatthewWilkes | ooh, 2-4-1, so going there for lunch this week |
| 19:38.19 | ``Erik | hrm, I'm too hungry to be looking at that website right now :( |
| 19:38.51 | summatusmentis | wishes there were a national healh-food/vegetarian friendly fast food chain |
| 19:38.58 | summatusmentis | that wasn't subway >_> |
| 19:39.17 | Landon | theres lettuce on bigmacs |
| 19:39.18 | Landon | :) |
| 19:39.42 | summatusmentis | Landon: not what I meant :) |
| 19:39.57 | summatusmentis | also, for future reference, the veggie burgers at Burger King are disgusting |
| 19:40.01 | Landon | always tries to get the most meat for his money |
| 19:40.07 | MatthewWilkes | See, I'm eaing now, but there's no meat in it :( |
| 19:40.14 | Landon | if I went vegetarion there would be a division by zero error |
| 19:40.28 | Landon | pray for the world that I never do |
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| 19:46.44 | Landon | STALKER is a great game btw |
| 19:46.50 | Landon | at least, for the 10 minutes I've played |
| 19:46.58 | Landon | (and replayed twice due to windows BSOd...) |
| 19:47.46 | Ivanovic | hi lh |
| 19:47.57 | Ivanovic | lh: btw i have caught you lying! |
| 19:48.20 | Landon | :O |
| 19:48.30 | Ivanovic | in the wiki you wrote that it would be no more than 50ft to the next place with drinks and snacks |
| 19:48.31 | MatthewWilkes | http://vimeo.com/2087048 <--- Coooooool! Codeswarm of the collective, the plone general access community repository |
| 19:48.39 | MatthewWilkes | Ivanovic: 150ft |
| 19:49.46 | Ivanovic | Help yourself to snacks and drinks wherever you find them. That's why they're there. Never more than 50 feet from snacks. The almonds are particularly delicious. As are the candied ginger pieces. |
| 19:49.46 | Landon | ebay <3 |
| 19:49.52 | Ivanovic | http://gsoc-mentors-2008.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Pre-Summit_Checklist |
| 19:50.01 | MatthewWilkes | Ivanovic: Typo.... |
| 19:50.52 | Ivanovic | easy to say now, i was really disapppointed when we started the FLOSS games session in seville von saturday |
| 19:50.53 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 19:51.04 | MatthewWilkes | bah |
| 19:51.08 | MatthewWilkes | hugs lh |
| 19:51.19 | MatthewWilkes | I thought 150ft was awesome |
| 19:51.33 | kblin | Ivanovic: dunno, what did you expect on that? |
| 19:52.07 | Ivanovic | kblin: to directly have snacks in the room considering how big and "remote" it was |
| 19:52.08 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 19:52.23 | kblin | oh, ok |
| 19:52.41 | mlankhorst | Is there something like x11 forwarding for mac? |
| 19:52.49 | Ivanovic | mlankhorst: yes |
| 19:53.01 | Ivanovic | mlankhorst: you just have to use X11 instead of a "normal" terminal |
| 19:53.07 | Ivanovic | in there you can ssh -X |
| 19:53.10 | MatthewWilkes | mlankhorst: If it's an X11 app, use x11 forwarding, otherwise no, only VNC/screen sharing |
| 19:53.17 | mlankhorst | Hmmm.. |
| 19:53.24 | mlankhorst | I guess I have to use vnc then |
| 19:54.15 | lh | MatthewWilkes: aww |
| 19:54.17 | lh | hugs MatthewWilkes |
| 19:54.25 | Ivanovic | okay, another point where i am not 100% sure how correct lh was: http://gsoc-mentors-2008.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Summit_Schedule |
| 19:54.29 | lh | Ivanovic: that's company policy dude. |
| 19:54.31 | Ivanovic | "LH will make sure you can find water, pain relievers and caffeine when you wake up. " |
| 19:54.51 | Ivanovic | i have not found any pain relievers... |
| 19:54.56 | lh | Ivanovic: i love you but you complain too much. |
| 19:54.57 | lh | :P |
| 19:55.02 | Ivanovic | (okay, i did not need them and i did not really start looking for them...) |
| 19:55.04 | mlankhorst | Hahaha |
| 19:55.05 | lh | Ivanovic: i had them in my damn purse dude. |
| 19:55.09 | lh | two bottles |
| 19:55.12 | Ivanovic | lh: come on, let me make some jokes about stuff... |
| 19:55.13 | lh | i offered them all ove rthe place |
| 19:55.15 | JeffM | she did, I saw them |
| 19:55.20 | lh | Ivanovic: ok. as long as you are joking. |
| 19:55.28 | lh | does not fall down on the job |
| 19:55.30 | lh | the end. |
| 19:55.32 | lh | goes to a meeting |
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| 19:56.13 | JeffM | anyone got ideas for a name for a web based IRC client? |
| 19:56.31 | Landon | CGI::IRC |
| 19:56.32 | Ivanovic | lh: you have really down a great job! |
| 19:56.32 | waldi | buzzirc |
| 19:56.35 | Landon | haha :P |
| 19:56.44 | JeffM | not bad |
| 19:56.51 | Landon | web.irc |
| 19:57.11 | Ivanovic | lh: ah, another thing that we should shedule for the next summit (maybe i just missed this session due to "offline mode" ;) ): |
| 19:57.17 | JeffM | it's main feature will be that it can keep you loged in to the channel when you close it and show you what you missed while you were away |
| 19:57.28 | MatthewWilkes | did you see that http://lol.cat got snapped up? |
| 19:57.42 | Landon | JeffM: so basically, connecting to a BNC? |
| 19:57.44 | Ivanovic | have the "personal hygiene for geeks"-session before the photos are taken |
| 19:57.48 | Landon | sounds intriguing |
| 19:57.50 | thiago | but lol.cat has to be in Catalan |
| 19:57.56 | thiago | or related to the Catalan community |
| 19:57.57 | Catfish_Man | dear god that's an ugly site |
| 19:57.58 | JeffM | I am not familar with the term BNC |
| 19:58.12 | Landon | JeffM: basically, you run it on your server |
| 19:58.16 | ``Erik | aka a bounce |
| 19:58.17 | Ivanovic | JeffM: BNC := bouncer |
| 19:58.19 | Landon | and then connect to it with any client wherever |
| 19:58.34 | Landon | and you'll still be in the same channels/etc |
| 19:58.43 | kblin | Ivanovic: not going to work.. ;) |
| 19:58.45 | JeffM | the idea came to me when lh was asking for an irc forum for her phone, and I got to thinking that it'd be cool to have something like terminal IRC + screen but more web based. |
| 19:58.52 | JeffM | something that could work anywhere |
| 19:59.10 | JeffM | and have an API for clients too, not just web |
| 19:59.30 | Landon | sounds like you want a BNC + web interface like cgi::irc |
| 19:59.40 | JeffM | yes but cgi IRC sucks ;) |
| 19:59.44 | Catfish_Man | mibbit is better |
| 20:00.06 | JeffM | I have all the bits and parts I need, just have to but them together |
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| 20:00.38 | JeffM | and that requires a name :) |
| 20:00.51 | Ivanovic | kblin: uhm, why not? |
| 20:00.59 | Landon | LH::IRC |
| 20:01.04 | Landon | or LHIRC |
| 20:01.04 | JeffM | heh |
| 20:01.09 | Landon | Lil Hacker IRC :P |
| 20:01.10 | Ivanovic | kblin: it could be explained something like riddles in adventure games are solved: |
| 20:01.12 | JeffM | it may not be what she needs |
| 20:01.17 | Catfish_Man | Landon: just shorten it to LHC |
| 20:01.18 | JeffM | I have some needs for my project too |
| 20:01.27 | Landon | Lil Hacker Chat! |
| 20:01.28 | Ivanovic | combine soap with water -> combine soped water with geek body |
| 20:01.36 | Ivanovic | many geeks should understand this |
| 20:01.38 | Catfish_Man | Landon: uh. Large Hadron Collider :P |
| 20:01.40 | JeffM | I was thinking about 'smooth talk' or 'smooth talker' or soething |
| 20:01.47 | kblin | Ivanovic: no one would do that, even if they solved the adventure game |
| 20:01.47 | Landon | Catfish_Man: :P |
| 20:02.11 | Ivanovic | kblin: are you sure? |
| 20:02.15 | Landon | JeffM: if you put ajax in there |
| 20:02.22 | Landon | you're obligated to name it Smth Tlkr |
| 20:02.26 | JeffM | heh |
| 20:02.31 | kblin | Ivanovic: what was your particular issue? |
| 20:02.34 | Ivanovic | are you also sure that noone tries how the hamster would do in the microwave after maniac mansion? |
| 20:02.37 | ``Erik | Smth Tlkr 2.0 |
| 20:02.39 | Ivanovic | kblin: there was none |
| 20:02.42 | Catfish_Man | Landon: Smth Tlkr 2.0 Beta |
| 20:02.57 | Landon | Smth Tlkr 2.0 Beta - NEW!! |
| 20:02.59 | JeffM | ProxyChat also came to mind |
| 20:03.09 | kblin | Ivanovic: so you just wanted to whine? |
| 20:03.14 | Ivanovic | kblin: just since leslie mentioned the "would be better if everyone remembered the lesson about personal hygiene" we could directly have it |
| 20:03.43 | Ivanovic | or was it "i hope that everyone remembers those lessons"? |
| 20:04.08 | Ivanovic | but i got one real and valid complain: |
| 20:04.18 | Ivanovic | there was not enough time for all the cool stuff taking place!!! |
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| 20:07.35 | kblin | Ivanovic: WONTFIX |
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| 20:08.15 | Ivanovic | kblin: and a (good) fix would be hard since it would require *lots* of time... |
| 20:08.36 | kblin | yeah |
| 20:08.50 | kblin | or require us to limit the cool stuff going on |
| 20:08.52 | Ivanovic | and i do really not want to see one of the bad versions |
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| 20:09.01 | Ivanovic | this is one of the bad fixes |
| 20:09.24 | kblin | that's why I said WONTFIX |
| 20:10.18 | kblin | every fix that's doable is inherently worse than what we currently have |
| 20:10.34 | Ivanovic | yeah |
| 20:10.43 | Ivanovic | that is the sad part about this issue |
| 20:10.51 | Ivanovic | (and it is a valid issue for itself!) |
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| 20:32.48 | lh | Ivanovic: i know i love it. |
| 20:33.05 | lh | call it demeter people |
| 20:33.07 | lh | demeter |
| 20:33.10 | lh | not lhirc |
| 20:33.13 | lh | that's too wierd |
| 20:33.23 | lh | wonders if she ought to try to focus on this meeting |
| 20:33.28 | mlankhorst | lh ospo |
| 20:33.35 | lh | mlankhorst: demeter. |
| 20:33.46 | mlankhorst | What's demeter? |
| 20:34.09 | lh | oh boy. |
| 20:34.18 | JeffM | greek godess of the earth |
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| 20:34.30 | lh | technically of the harvest, but who is counting |
| 20:34.31 | lh | more here |
| 20:34.32 | lh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demeter |
| 20:34.44 | summatusmentis | "possibly "distribution-mother" from the noun of the Indo-European mother-earth *dheghom *mater" |
| 20:34.47 | Catfish_Man | seems like hermes might be more appropriate for irc |
| 20:34.49 | Catfish_Man | but I'm positive that's taken |
| 20:34.52 | mlankhorst | Stupid scrolling doesn't work |
| 20:34.54 | lh | Nourisher of the youth and the green earth, the health-giving cycle of life and death, and preserver of marriage and the sacred law. |
| 20:35.06 | lh | leslie is not a big fan of hermes |
| 20:35.11 | lh | stops touching the irc |
| 20:35.14 | Catfish_Man | heh |
| 20:35.14 | summatusmentis | not a big fan of hermes? |
| 20:35.18 | summatusmentis | for shame |
| 20:35.20 | JeffM | heh, if it was to preserve marage, it'd have to filter out stupid things said by men :) |
| 20:35.40 | MatthewWilkes | JeffM: And women.... |
| 20:35.47 | MatthewWilkes | is standing up for equality |
| 20:35.52 | JeffM | heh |
| 20:36.04 | JeffM | probably, but men tend to say more stupid things I feel |
| 20:36.22 | summatusmentis | has said his fair share of stupid things |
| 20:36.51 | JeffM | demeter could work |
| 20:36.56 | JeffM | always there, always listening |
| 20:37.26 | mlankhorst | Stupid car exams, need to know theory exactly :( |
| 20:37.36 | mordante | Ivanovic see; I already told you yesterday evening that the soap thing with geeks won't work :P |
| 20:40.16 | mlankhorst | It would be jsut boring |
| 20:40.23 | mlankhorst | no way you can make a bisection fun |
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| 21:22.15 | MatthewWilkes | http://www.cmswire.com/cms/web-cms/packtpub-2008-awards-best-other-open-source-cms-003412.php |
| 21:22.16 | MatthewWilkes | YAY |
| 21:23.42 | lh | says lots of stupid things she feels |
| 21:24.09 | lh | MatthewWilkes: congratulations |
| 21:24.34 | summatusmentis | lh: saying stupid things makes conversations interesting |
| 21:24.48 | Catfish_Man | saying interesting things also does ;) |
| 21:25.04 | summatusmentis | well, yeah |
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| 21:27.12 | summatusmentis | needs to find a halloween costume |
| 21:27.20 | AJuOnLiNE | saying interesting things make things stupid? |
| 21:28.23 | JeffM | bahh, demeter is already a sf project for a terrain engine, google projects won't let me use it :/ |
| 21:28.28 | JeffM | looks up her roman name |
| 21:28.43 | lh | we are going with greek people |
| 21:28.49 | lh | oh dammit. |
| 21:29.00 | lh | ceres |
| 21:29.04 | lh | her roman name is ceres |
| 21:29.08 | JeffM | dosn't have the same ring |
| 21:29.12 | lh | really doesn't |
| 21:29.16 | lh | harumph. |
| 21:29.20 | lh | will think about this |
| 21:29.23 | summatusmentis | prefers roman names |
| 21:29.33 | lh | suggests banning all meetings |
| 21:29.39 | Catfish_Man | grew up on the greek ones |
| 21:29.40 | JeffM | names it WeeChat temporaraly |
| 21:29.43 | lh | Catfish_Man: me too |
| 21:30.00 | lh | JeffM: um jeff, that is suboptimal |
| 21:30.13 | JeffM | I know, I just need a name for the folder |
| 21:30.15 | lh | dryad is good too |
| 21:30.26 | summatusmentis | I like that |
| 21:30.27 | lh | decides to actually go to her meeting instead of sitting here enjoying self |
| 21:30.28 | JeffM | as in the trees talking |
| 21:30.33 | JeffM | have fun |
| 21:30.34 | lh | si |
| 21:31.36 | JeffM | bahh, same problem, Dryad is a log analasis tool :( |
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| 21:32.09 | MatthewWilkes | How about some mythologies that haven't been used constantly |
| 21:32.16 | MatthewWilkes | How about "Branwen" ? |
| 21:32.35 | JeffM | that sounds like a dietary suplement |
| 21:32.45 | JeffM | Branwen.. keeps you regular. |
| 21:33.01 | MatthewWilkes | Modron? |
| 21:33.41 | JeffM | but I'm not lawfull good |
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| 22:21.46 | Ivanovic | lh: and those tiny speakers are wonderfull, too |
| 22:21.53 | Ivanovic | great sound for such a small size |
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| 22:24.14 | Ivanovic | in general terms speaking: |
| 22:24.18 | Ivanovic | gives lh a hug |
| 22:24.25 | Ivanovic | and everyone else should do so, too! |
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| 22:26.54 | Ivanovic | and i wish i had taken more of those google swag frisbees with me |
| 22:27.05 | Ivanovic | my friends are now all saying "hey, i would have liked one, too" |
| 22:27.16 | Ivanovic | damn, i knew that taking only two was a mistake |
| 22:27.19 | Ivanovic | :( |
| 22:33.36 | ``Erik | huh, those little things can pout out a fair bit of noise, neat |
| 22:33.56 | Ivanovic | yeah, they really can |
| 22:34.09 | Ivanovic | they are a whole lot stronger than they look |
| 22:34.47 | Ivanovic | should have taken an extra bag for swag... |
| 22:34.49 | Ivanovic | ;) |
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| 22:42.26 | AJuOnLiNE | lh: around? |
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| 23:12.19 | lh | Ivanovic: we can get you more frisbees |
| 23:12.29 | scorche|sh | those things are fun |
| 23:12.35 | scorche|sh | is currently playing with one |
| 23:12.41 | lh | is not a fan of branwen |
| 23:13.00 | lh | lets allman know of frisbee popularity |
| 23:13.22 | scorche|sh | this also seems to be becoming more of a flu-ish thing...muscles ache and i feel generally unpleasant |
| 23:13.26 | scorche|sh | blames google |
| 23:13.36 | lh | jbailey is sick too, maybe you got it from him |
| 23:13.47 | lh | notes that she is not yet ill, intends to stay that way |
| 23:20.06 | scorche|sh | hopes this clears up before he gives his talk |
| 23:21.32 | lh | jgay: i responded to your mail, let me know what you want to do |
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| 23:23.07 | sanooj | just fyi, got my t-shirt today and it rocks. thank you all. |
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| 23:23.22 | lh | sanooj: you are most welcome |
| 23:23.27 | mlankhorst_ | woei |
| 23:23.31 | mlankhorst_ | Night lh :) |
| 23:23.36 | lh | mlankhorst_: sleep well dear |
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| 23:23.38 | Ivanovic | lh: more of the google swag is always welcome |
| 23:23.41 | lh | hands mlankhorst_ chamomile tea |
| 23:23.48 | lh | Ivanovic: noted, send me email after nov 16th |
| 23:23.55 | lh | is not going to have time to handle before her vacation |
| 23:23.59 | mlankhorst_ | has to do car theory exams tomorrow :( |
| 23:24.37 | lh | oh my. |
| 23:24.39 | Ivanovic | mlankhorst_: those are really no problem, you will manage to get through! |
| 23:24.40 | lh | definitely sleep well then dear |
| 23:24.54 | Ivanovic | lh: i hope you will enjoy your vacations and find some time to relax |
| 23:24.59 | mlankhorst_ | Ivanovic: True, I have probably learnt enough for it :) |
| 23:25.02 | Ivanovic | where are you going to? |
| 23:25.10 | summatusmentis | mm... tomato soup |
| 23:25.11 | Ivanovic | or is it just "not to work" vacation? |
| 23:25.20 | lh | is going on vacation |
| 23:25.24 | mlankhorst_ | If you're going to holland let me know and we can buy some coffee together :) |
| 23:25.25 | lh | which means checking email not at all |
| 23:25.31 | lh | (which will no doubt happen anyway) |
| 23:25.40 | mlankhorst_ | lh: <grins> |
| 23:25.41 | lh | and no irc, except when there is irc |
| 23:25.49 | summatusmentis | well, with andy it's just so easy to check email :) |
| 23:25.58 | mlankhorst_ | lh: Should leave the iphone behind as well then |
| 23:26.02 | lh | summatusmentis: i dont have work email set up on andy :) |
| 23:26.06 | lh | mlankhorst_: but i love andy |
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| 23:26.13 | lh | doesn't want to leave andy at home |
| 23:26.17 | summatusmentis | lh: oh, that's reasonable |
| 23:26.20 | mlankhorst_ | you named your iphone? |
| 23:26.29 | summatusmentis | iphone is steev |
| 23:26.35 | lh | summatusmentis: correct |
| 23:26.45 | mlankhorst_ | andy = g1? |
| 23:26.46 | MatthewWilkes | lh: DC time? |
| 23:27.03 | summatusmentis | lh: speaking of which, I gave in :( |
| 23:27.07 | lh | MatthewWilkes: and also boston |
| 23:27.08 | lh | :) |
| 23:27.12 | lh | fsf! fsf! fsf! |
| 23:27.27 | lh | summatusmentis: gave in to what? oh jake, you should have held out for andy. |
| 23:27.39 | Ivanovic | lh: coffee! coffee! |
| 23:27.41 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 23:27.50 | lh | that too. |
| 23:27.51 | lh | :) |
| 23:27.56 | summatusmentis | lh: I bought an iPod touch. Andy doen't make mp3 players |
| 23:27.59 | Ivanovic | and yes, i am carying a slight cold with me already since the beginning of last week |
| 23:28.04 | lh | decides that blowing off this meeting with the finance team is a bad idea |
| 23:28.05 | MatthewWilkes | lh: The Android has succeeded - I dont really want an iPhone anymore |
| 23:28.06 | lh | sigh |
| 23:28.08 | mlankhorst_ | lh: Which one is 'andy'? |
| 23:28.10 | lh | MatthewWilkes: i know!!! |
| 23:28.13 | lh | mlankhorst_: G1 |
| 23:28.14 | Ivanovic | though while in the NRoC it was quite okay |
| 23:28.18 | mlankhorst_ | Ah, knew it |
| 23:28.19 | lh | andy is so awesome. :) |
| 23:28.32 | mlankhorst_ | Does it have jtag? |
| 23:28.35 | lh | goes off to meeting #4073 |
| 23:28.36 | Ivanovic | and since i got to get up again in 7h and need to get any sleep i will now try to find some |
| 23:28.39 | lh | what is a jtag? |
| 23:28.43 | Ivanovic | n8 everyone, cu tomorrow |
| 23:28.45 | lh | never mind i have to go, bbl |
| 23:28.48 | lh | Ivanovic: sleep well dear |
| 23:28.57 | BarryCarlyon | only 4073? |
| 23:28.57 | Ivanovic | lh: have nice holidays |
| 23:29.01 | summatusmentis | mlankhorst_: I doubt it has jtag accessible |
| 23:29.01 | mlankhorst_ | lh: Google is your friend |
| 23:29.04 | lh | Ivanovic: will do |
| 23:29.07 | ``Erik | tooo many meetings |
| 23:29.08 | Ivanovic | (when are you leaving to holidays?) |
| 23:29.10 | lh | mlankhorst_: do not make me use google |
| 23:29.22 | mlankhorst_ | summatusmentis: Boo, what's an open source phone without a programming/debugging interface? |
| 23:29.24 | lh | ``Erik: i know. sucks, |
| 23:29.34 | lh | goes away |
| 23:29.37 | summatusmentis | mlankhorst_: one that is intended at mass market? |
| 23:30.03 | mlankhorst_ | Sometimes they still have jtag, to do final diagnostics before shipping phone |
| 23:30.09 | mlankhorst_ | Just not with pins soldered |
| 23:30.58 | mlankhorst_ | lh: Interface that makes debugging and reprogramming easier :) |
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| 23:32.00 | mlankhorst_ | It allows direct access to all the physical and flash memory, and you can debug the device with it |
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| 23:32.58 | summatusmentis | mlankhorst_: afaik the G1 is intended for consumers... someone over in #android was talking, theoretically, a developr version of an android phone |
| 23:33.01 | mlankhorst_ | So if you brick it, and the hardware is not damaged, you can reprogram the boot loader then upload a new kernel (jtag is too slow) |
| 23:34.16 | summatusmentis | I'm sure there are efforts being made on hacking the G1 |
| 23:35.30 | Ivanovic | summatusmentis: there were some android talks at the mentor summit |
| 23:35.48 | Ivanovic | that is: the "normal" version will be locked and is not easily reflashable |
| 23:36.05 | Ivanovic | and will only be available via t-mobile |
| 23:36.09 | mlankhorst_ | Booo :( |
| 23:36.16 | mlankhorst_ | So much for open |
| 23:36.21 | Ivanovic | though google hopes to get out a developer version which is not locked down |
| 23:36.30 | Ivanovic | though somehow i don't think that this will have a jtag |
| 23:36.42 | Ivanovic | mlankhorst_: the operating system is rather open |
| 23:36.56 | Ivanovic | mlankhorst_: it is just up to the providers and hardware vendors what they really make of it |
| 23:37.05 | Ivanovic | in this case htc and t-mobile |
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| 23:38.26 | Ivanovic | okay, really off to bed now, n8 |
| 23:38.38 | mlankhorst_ | me too, night |
| 23:38.50 | BarryCarlyon | Night. |
| 23:47.16 | jgay | lh you've been answered |
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