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00:32.04lhall hail the newly married san mehat and linsey jackson :)
00:32.13lhor at least think nice thoughts for the new couple please :)
00:33.15MatthewWilkescool!  congrats to them wherever they are
00:33.37dberkholzand whoever? =)
00:34.55lhMatthewWilkes: this is on my blog
00:35.08lhLAH
00:35.13lhsanmehat hangs out in here sometimes
00:35.25lhand they just got married at the legion of honor museum in sf
00:35.32lhwhich in addition to being a beautiful ceremony
00:35.52lhmeant that i got to drink champagne in front of a gold leaf laurel wreath from 3rd century greece
00:35.55lhshiny things ++
00:36.11lhi have to say, i think it was as perfect as weddings get
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00:36.23``Erik_woots, grats to 'em :)
00:36.33lh``Erik: thanks, will pass along :)
00:36.42lhwe did the flowers ourselves
00:36.47lhi did the boutineers
00:36.54dberkholzmakes me think of the argonauts
00:37.10lhfreesia, purple and white cala lillies and san's had a burgundy rose
00:37.20lhdberkholz: one of my many favorite stories
00:37.24lhalso shiny
00:37.35lhsorry, but that's the real appeal. it
00:37.53lhit's not the centuries old history. or the exquisite workmanship. it's that it was really, really shiny.
00:38.02lhand i don't even like gold shiny things.
00:38.18dandersonTorchwood is fun
00:38.24lhat some point people are threatening to put photos on the web
00:38.25lh:)
00:38.26dandersonmuch less politically correct than doctor who
00:38.31lhdanderson: isn't it awesome and indeed
00:38.51lhneeds to go get dinner with the mehat jackson clan (that's san and linsey's family)
00:39.10dandersonhave fun, and relay best wishes to the newlyweds
00:39.12dandersonbugger.
00:39.13MatthewWilkesdanderson: Meh, you can't beat hte doctor
00:39.33dandersonMatthewWilkes: no, but since Tennant is giving it up, there'll only be 4 episodes in 2009
00:39.47dandersonso I need to ration my supply of epic alien stuff
00:39.58MatthewWilkesdanderson: True, shame, Tennant is very, very good
00:40.52MatthewWilkesHe's beat out Tom Baker in my book
00:41.13dandersonyah
00:41.21dandersonnext doctor is going to have one hell of a time living up
00:42.32dberkholzlh: don't know if you saw last time i said it, but thanks again for all the work you put into the summit and the whole summer
00:42.32dberkholzlh: best conf i've ever been to
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00:55.29scorchedberkholz: not here...
00:56.02dberkholzscorche: i had some ridiculous lag. did it seriously take that long?!
00:56.23scorche[17:42:29]     ....she left at [17:39:05]
00:56.38dberkholz00:38 < dberkholz > lh: best conf i've ever been to
00:56.47dberkholznotice the time on my end =\
00:56.58scorcheyeah...failure :(
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09:11.13ajuonlinegood morning
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09:30.41milkio hey, daylight savings ends on the 2nd
09:31.12ajuonlineand?
09:31.23milkiis it supposed to 0000 on the 2nd or 2359 on the second >.<
09:31.39milkii forgot when im supposed to turn my clock
09:32.05ajuonlineNTP ftw :P
09:32.09milki2 a.m. on the First Sunday of November.
09:32.18milkihm, so i guess its 0200 on sunday...
09:32.57milkisoo, i get an extra hour of sleep!?
09:33.00milkiyay
09:35.27ajuonlinehe he
09:36.16ajuonlinesounds another reason to fool others to let yourself sleep more :P
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12:14.18bcarlyon|laptopAnyone familiar with lame on the linux command line?
12:14.19bcarlyon|laptopAnyone familiar with lame on the linux command line? As I just tried running it, but its not reading my source file as an hour long, as its only spitting out a file 15mins long.
12:14.30bcarlyon|laptopKinda stuck. and/or confused.
12:17.52IvanovicBarryCarlyon: what is the command you are using?
12:17.59Ivanovicthis might help in debugging...
12:19.53BarryCarlyonOne sec
12:20.09BarryCarlyonlame -b 128 -h -r in_wav.wav out_mp3.mp3
12:20.18BarryCarlyonThe in_wav is 1:1:06
12:20.24BarryCarlyonBut lame sputs out a 15:06 file.
12:20.29BarryCarlyonspits*
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12:24.21BarryCarlyonHence I am confused Ivanovic.
12:25.28Ivanovic-r     Assume  the input file is raw pcm.  Sampling rate and mono/stereo/jstereo must be specified on the command line.
12:25.32Ivanovicyou have not done so
12:25.47BarryCarlyonI did try it without the -r switch and it gave the same result.
12:25.50Ivanovicso it probably assumes a wrong sampling rate
12:26.05BarryCarlyonThat makes sense, /me tries
12:26.37Ivanovicand with -h the "-b 128" should not be needed
12:26.54Ivanovicjust try lame -h in_wav.wav out_mp3.mp3
12:27.00BarryCarlyonOk.
12:27.28BarryCarlyonNope it still is gonna shunt out a 15 min file instead of an hour :-(
12:27.44Ivanovichave you compared the files in some player?
12:27.49BarryCarlyonYes.
12:27.58Ivanovicthat is: the the encoded file complete/faster/whatever?
12:28.36BarryCarlyonI havn't played it, but I looked at the time and went that cant be right.
12:28.44BarryCarlyonGive me 6 mins for it to finish encoding.
12:28.59Ivanoviclisten to the file
12:29.06Ivanovicthis might give you an idea what could be wrong
12:29.13BarryCarlyonWill do, have to wait for it to finish encoding :-)
12:29.14Ivanoviceg if the file is by far too fast
12:29.30BarryCarlyonIf the file is too fast, what is the solution?
12:31.39Ivanovicthat a wrong samplerate was used
12:32.20Ivanoviceg it was assumed a 44kHz sample rate while your file just has 11kHz
12:34.48BarryCarlyontwiddles thumbs for the next 30seconds
12:36.30BarryCarlyonIts definitely speeded up....
12:37.22BarryCarlyonHmm the source file says it has a bit rate of 354kps, which is very odd.
12:37.35Ivanovicso you know what to do: find out the samplerate of the original (not bit rate, sample rate!)
12:37.40BarryCarlyonHehe.
12:37.41Ivanovicand tell lame to use this one
12:37.58BarryCarlyonWhich is the switch for it?
12:38.02BarryCarlyonAh -b
12:38.04BarryCarlyonHehe
12:38.49BarryCarlyonOr not?
12:38.56BarryCarlyon-s :-)
12:39.58BarryCarlyonIf I get this working I can finally add copyright tags to the podcasts I am working on....
12:40.32Ivanovicman lame
12:40.38Ivanovici am only relying on this either
12:40.40Ivanovic;)
12:40.43BarryCarlyonhehe
12:40.48BarryCarlyonlame --longhelp :-)
12:41.33BarryCarlyonI usually use cool edit pro 2 to convert but it doesnt do copyright tagging, and I'd much rather automagic the process on the linux box, since the files are all on the linux box to start with.
12:41.43BarryCarlyonSetup a cron every night to run for me.
12:41.52Ivanovicthat is easy enough to do
12:41.55BarryCarlyonBut if I keep having the sample rate problem, it could be annoying.
12:42.14Ivanovicit is just a switch to define the sample rate of the original
12:42.30BarryCarlyonBut still you need to know the sample rate of the original.
12:42.39BarryCarlyonAnd I dont make the original files :-(
12:43.36Ivanovicwhat is the time needed for the orig file?
12:43.48BarryCarlyonTime needed? What do you mean?
12:43.50Ivanovicwhat is the sample rate lame put out for the mp3 file?
12:43.55BarryCarlyonO.
12:43.58Ivanovictime to play original file at original speed
12:44.11BarryCarlyonchecks
12:44.14Ivanovicand what is length of the resulting mp3 file
12:44.21Ivanovicthen you can easily calculate
12:44.39Ivanovicthose are the possible sample rates (all in kHz): 8/11.025/12/16/22.05/24/32/44.1/48
12:45.00BarryCarlyonWell the original is 1:1:06 the resultant is 15:22, and I'm opening the files now to get the sample rate
12:45.24BarryCarlyonCool edit says the file is 44.1k
12:45.54BarryCarlyonThe orignal I mean
12:46.06IvanovicIGNORE WHAT COOL EDIT SAYS!!!
12:46.16Ivanovicthat is: raw pcm streams do not have a sample rate listed
12:46.26Ivanovicjust find out the sample rate of the resulting mp3
12:46.27BarryCarlyonHow do I find the sample rate then?
12:46.34Ivanoviccalcualting
12:46.47BarryCarlyonHow do I do that?
12:46.59Ivanovicsimple maths
12:47.06Ivanovicwhat is the factor in time?
12:47.17Ivanovicthe resulting file is about 4 time shorter than the original
12:47.29Ivanovicso the resulting sample rate is about 4 times as high as the original one
12:47.42Ivanovicif the resulting sample rate is 44kHz, the original probably is 11khz
12:47.51Ivanovicsimple maths, right?
12:48.01BarryCarlyonHowever I am still missing one piece of info.
12:48.13BarryCarlyonThe resulting sample rate.
12:48.17BarryCarlyonHow do I get that.
12:48.21Ivanovicno, this is listed in the mp3 file
12:48.27BarryCarlyonOr do we assume LAME spat out 44.1k?
12:48.32Ivanoviceg "file resulting.mp3" should give it
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12:48.54Ivanovicokay, file does not, but any media player does
12:49.15BarryCarlyonNo file does.
12:49.18BarryCarlyon44.1khz
12:49.26Ivanovicso you know what to use now, right?
12:50.01BarryCarlyonYip me thinks.
12:51.16Ivanoviclame -h -r -s 11.025 -m m infile.wav outfile.mp3
12:51.28Ivanovicthe "-m m" says that the original file is mono
12:51.32Ivanovici am not sure what it is...
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12:56.15BarryCarlyonYay that looks like its working, thanks Ivanovic.
12:56.21BarryCarlyonthrows beer at Ivanovic
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13:13.39BarryCarlyonHmm Ivanovic its the right length but its all blurry noisey rubbish
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13:46.42BarryCarlyonno joy yet Ivanovic, but thanks for the help am getting there
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13:53.20IvanovicBarryCarlyon: i hope you can squeze the problems you currently got
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17:16.04MatthewWilkeshttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2989991567_7c602e6254_b.jpg
17:16.13MatthewWilkesthese panorama pictures are coooool
17:17.03ajuonline|gsdMatthewWilkes: how was this taken?
17:17.24summatusmentisI don't think that's panorama, I think they call that fish-eye
17:19.00Landonthose are awesome :P
17:19.04MatthewWilkessummatusmentis: A fish eye is a type of panorama, afaik
17:19.29ajuonline|gsdhow many are on twitter :P
17:19.30ajuonline|gsd?
17:19.49ajuonline|gsdjake?
17:20.14summatusmentisMatthewWilkes: oh
17:20.29summatusmentisajuonline|gsd: me? my name is jake, and I'm on twitter
17:20.51ajuonline|gsdsummatusmentis: yes i know ur jake :P whts ur nick there?
17:21.11ajuonline|gsdi am my primary nick
17:21.51ajuonline|gsdi think i found you?
17:22.09ajuonline|gsdsame nick?
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17:23.52summatusmentissame on as here, and everywhere else
17:24.00summatusmentisone*
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17:26.21ajuonline|gsdsummatusmentis: done
17:29.46summatusmentiscool cool
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17:37.32scrouafMatthewWilkes, i thought earth was bigger than that :/
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17:37.54MatthewWilkesscrouaf: What is this, a planet for ANTS?
17:38.12scrouafdunno
17:38.29scrouafi mean, it looks like you could walk around it in a few minutes on that pic
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20:58.11pygihi hi
20:58.19ajuonline|zzzho ho
21:00.29MatthewWilkeshe he?
21:03.23araujohu hu
21:11.35summatusmentisha ha
21:11.52summatusmentish(sometimes)y h(sometimes)y
21:15.43ajuonline|zzznow right a program for that too
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21:16.55summatusmentisa program for what?
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21:22.24ajuonline|zzzmaking a sentence with a pair of words, the first being h and the second letter being *
21:22.29ajuonline|zzz*==anything
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22:36.03milkiugh, gaining an extra hour doesnt really help if i lose 6 hours of sleep
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