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08:50.33kblinmorning
08:52.49Ivanovicmoin kblin
08:56.01kblinhm, I wonder if the eeebox from asus is worth it or if it's just hyped
08:56.09Ivanovichyped
08:58.24Ivanovicfor the usecase where i see the eebox making sense i would more or less go with something like the beagle board
08:58.37Ivanovicreally low power hardware but still rather fast with all the stuff needed
09:00.25kblinI'm currently looking into replacing my home server...
09:00.38kblinwhich currently is an old asus m4000 laptop
09:00.43Ivanovicyes, especially for this i would go for the beagle board
09:01.02Ivanovicsince a homeserver is running 24/7
09:01.24kblinnice
09:01.33kblinjust looked up the hardware
09:01.42Ivanovicin general the beagle board should be *great* for this task with the up to 600mhz arm
09:01.46Ivanovicand still passive cooling
09:02.17Ivanovichttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_Board
09:03.39Ivanovichmm, no idea how it fares regarding network
09:03.40kblincool, search.debian.org is showing the default apache start page
09:03.47kblinI don
09:04.04kblinI don't have high requirements for bandwidth and stuff
09:04.38kblinjust want a box to route my ipv6 traffic, run bind and my development apache server
09:06.09Ivanoviche, but i don't see the network access at all atm
09:06.31Ivanovicyes, if you need storage space you have to attach hardrives via usb (or use bigger sdhc cards)
09:08.41kblinthey recommend http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416834080&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper for wired ethernet
09:12.14Ivanoviclooks like there are three usb sockets on the board
09:12.28Ivanovicso this should work (that is using one for network and two eg for harddrives)
09:13.11Ivanovicand if you just want to run an apache server and stuff a plain 16GB sdhc card is already more than enough for data (and only costs 30€)
09:13.34Ivanovicthe best part of this combination is that you got lots of processing power and will stay well below 10W power consumption
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09:13.46Ivanovic(the board itself is specified to use ~2W)
09:14.38Ivanovicups, sorry, just two usb sockets, at least one of thosre usb host
09:17.22kblinlooks like the perfect platform I'm looking for, actually :)
09:17.37kblinespecially as the laptop's too noisy :)
09:17.40Ivanovicit is really a neat system
09:17.52Ivanovicand completely quite while also not using much energy
09:23.21kblinand for just 124 eur for the board a pretty cheap system as well
09:25.06kblinwhich reminds me that I need to poke my sd card reader in my dev box..
09:25.17kblinthat's not working as it should
09:25.41Ivanovic:)
09:25.53Ivanovici am looking forward to holding my pandora in my hands
09:26.05Ivanovicthat one is based on the same SoC
09:26.17Ivanovicjust with wlan, 256mb ram and 512mb flash
09:26.51kblingaming console?
09:26.52Ivanovicall put into a nice case (handheld console!) with display (800x480, touchscreen), keyboard and game controls
09:27.04Ivanovickblin: gaming, too
09:27.05kblinfo I see a wesnoth port coming up for that? :)
09:27.13Ivanovicyes, there will be a wesnoth port for it
09:27.57kblinhehe
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10:13.33kblingah
10:14.31kblinamazing how easy it is to get the hardware but not the cables here
10:16.46Ivanovicoh
10:17.06Ivanovicanother great option are those lovely via epia boards
10:17.36Ivanovicthey tend to offer basically all stuff normal desktop machines got but use just a fraction of power and are a whole lot smaller
10:17.39Ivanovic(x86 based)
10:18.09kblinI'm still checking the availability of some of the parts
10:19.12kblinthe major show-stoppers right now are the hdmi port on the board and the usb std-A-female to mini-B-male adapter
10:20.08kblinit seems like HDMI-A-male to DVI-D-female connectors are cheap in the US and very expensive in europe
10:20.36kblinin turn a HDMI-A-male to DVI-D-make cable is relatively cheap here
10:20.49kblinso that part might be covered
10:21.39kblinoh, and I can get that USB cable from the place where I get the case and serial port cable
10:21.48kblinfor $2.50
10:21.55kblinok, so that's settled
10:22.07Ivanovic:)
10:22.44kblinhehe
10:23.13kblinwow, I'm so _not_ paying for insured shipping for the USB to power-supply cable
10:23.46kblinpart costs $2.55, insured shipping costs $21
10:23.57kblinuninsured shipping costs $3
10:24.08thebolthehe
10:24.13kblinI can try that a couple of times and still be below the insured shipping cost
10:25.34Ivanovic:)
10:26.04Ivanovickblin: but i'd say this looks like a neat home server, doesn't it?
10:27.30kblinyeah, pretty much
10:27.55kblinlooks like I've found myself a christmas present
10:28.19kblinnow let's see if I still have that nullmodem cable somewhere or if I ditched it before moving
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10:28.51kblinI just decided a nullmodem cable is sufficient, I don't need a monitor
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10:30.33kblinoh, I just found a 5V power brick, so I don't technically need that USB to 5V power plug cable
10:32.00Ivanovic:)
10:33.22kblinbut I seem to have thrown away the null modem cable..
10:33.38kblinoh well
10:34.53kblinthanks very much for bringing up that hardware
10:37.26kblinmight even be powerful enough to run a franky samba AD
10:37.45kblinmostly concerned about RAM there
10:37.54kblinbut that'd be a bonus
11:04.29Ivanovickblin: now the main question is: do they have the beagle board in stock?
11:04.30Ivanovic;)
11:05.51kblinIvanovic: they claim to have 25 in stock, I just need one
11:06.17Ivanovicokay, then it should work out nicely
11:06.55kblinand given that I don't really have the time to play with this before christmas, it should get here in time
11:07.17kblinspeaking of getting here in time, I need to kick some people
11:07.43kblingoogle lost my invoice and the SFC didn't push any money here either
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18:35.41araujohello
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19:18.36djds4rceiam a newbie to open source and actually want to begin with some open source devolopment can any 1 help me
19:22.57``Erikpick a project you like, see if they have a 'todo' list, talk to the dev community...
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19:26.44djds4rceErik:thanks a lot
19:26.50djds4rceil get started now
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19:32.56djds4rceif i want to be a part of gsoc when is that i have to apply?
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19:36.25orudgedjds4rce: the applications this year were in April, from memory
19:36.31orudgethe timeline should be available on the web site
19:36.35orudgeit'll likely be similar next year
19:38.47djds4rceok
19:38.50djds4rcethanks
19:39.23djds4rcethe project ideas should be ours or can we join other people?
19:39.35orudgewhat do you mean as such?
19:39.39orudgeprojects tend to be individual projects
19:39.58orudgesome of the mentoring organisations will suggest projects
19:40.01orudgeor you can suggest your own
19:40.35djds4rceok
19:40.49djds4rceit wont be like we work as team?
19:41.43orudgewell, that depends on the project I guess
19:41.43orudgeyou should learn how to work as part of an open source team
19:42.40orudgeyour own project will probably be something you mainly work on yourself, but you may well get help from others, too
19:42.44djds4rcethanks a lot for all the help
19:42.45orudgecertainly, other people will be available to guide you along
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