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| 00:43.14 | Landon | hm how are gloves supposed to fit? |
| 00:43.25 | Catfish_Man | on your hands |
| 00:43.27 | Landon | as in, where should the knuckles be |
| 00:43.28 | Landon | :P |
| 00:44.36 | Landon | I've noticed my gloves usually have my knuckles an inch or two behind where it seperates for fingers |
| 00:45.40 | Landon | but a size bigger usually is topo l;arge around the palm |
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| 00:57.05 | Landon | :( |
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| 03:06.16 | Landon | picked up an indie zombie flick atthe store today |
| 03:06.19 | Landon | Unrated :) |
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| 04:44.21 | chx | lh: hi |
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| 07:08.19 | bluef00t | hi gsocrs, just a small question..do u strictly have to be 18 by the usual april date to participate in GSoc...cause i wont be 18 by then but i am in a professional college pursuing an undergraduate course in computer science.. |
| 07:08.42 | Catfish_Man | yes, I believe that's in the faq :) |
| 07:09.07 | Catfish_Man | you might check out GHOP instead if it's running again: http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/ |
| 07:09.30 | Catfish_Man | or just work on a project independently so that when you are 18 they already know your ability |
| 07:09.57 | bluef00t | yeah..that would be a gr8 idea.. |
| 07:10.48 | bluef00t | so can i just contact a gsoc organisation and work on an idea if no one has taken that up...would they be enthusiastic enough.. |
| 07:10.59 | bluef00t | ?? |
| 07:11.14 | Catfish_Man | generally speaking, most open source projects are always enthusiastic about people volunteering to write code |
| 07:12.30 | bluef00t | hmm... |
| 07:13.40 | bluef00t | ive just got started with open source but i have good skills in c++ and python.. any suggested mentors?? |
| 07:14.00 | Catfish_Man | hm... C++. You could hack on WebKit :) |
| 07:14.08 | Catfish_Man | (I may be a little biased ;) ) |
| 07:15.53 | bluef00t | i dont own a mac though :( |
| 07:16.22 | Catfish_Man | webkit has mac, windows, gtk, qt, and wxwidgets ports |
| 07:16.46 | Catfish_Man | just because apple started it when they forked khtml doesn't mean they're the only ones working on it or using it :) |
| 07:17.35 | bluef00t | ok... |
| 07:17.49 | Catfish_Man | but really, look down the list of projects and find something you're interested in |
| 07:17.49 | bluef00t | are u working on webkit?? |
| 07:17.57 | Catfish_Man | some, yeah. I was doing some performance work tonight |
| 07:18.07 | Catfish_Man | I mostly work on Adium though |
| 07:20.00 | bluef00t | wow...adium is beautiful..... |
| 07:20.30 | Catfish_Man | thanks :) |
| 07:20.39 | bluef00t | like most mac stuff... |
| 07:21.10 | bluef00t | unfortunately mac is not a practical option in my country...else i would have had my hands on one.. |
| 07:21.13 | bluef00t | :( |
| 07:21.47 | Landon | hehe |
| 07:21.53 | Landon | macs not a practical option for my budget :( |
| 07:22.28 | bluef00t | anyway, thanx for ur advice Catfish_Man... |
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| 09:12.24 | [mharrison] | Dear google: I regret to inform you that I will no longer be using google.com to search. In fact, I won't be doing any internet search whatsoever. The web has become far too saturated with stupid, pointless, fake, duplicated, meaningless, and unrelated content for me to get useful search results any more. Thank you for the good times. |
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| 09:19.35 | antarus | [mharrison]: I suggest using whatever search engine works best for you |
| 09:21.34 | mlankhorst | o_o |
| 09:21.37 | mlankhorst | Like I care? |
| 09:21.45 | mlankhorst | Go for it |
| 09:22.10 | antarus | mlankhorst: well you should care |
| 09:22.23 | mlankhorst | Nah :> |
| 09:22.50 | straydawg | duh, the whole point of search engines is to be able to avoid the mud :) |
| 09:22.50 | antarus | Ahh I guess i misread his statement |
| 09:22.59 | antarus | he appears to be saying he won't be using the internet anymore |
| 09:23.08 | antarus | I just thought he wasn't going to use google |
| 09:23.10 | mlankhorst | Lets drag him out |
| 09:23.22 | antarus | blames the alcohol and holiday party |
| 09:23.30 | antarus | should probably get off irc and go to bed |
| 09:23.40 | mlankhorst | He can do whatever he like, it still wouldn't make me care.. |
| 09:24.02 | antarus | you might care if you are in search quality ;) |
| 09:24.08 | Catfish_Man | or if he sets you on fire |
| 09:24.11 | Catfish_Man | that tends to make people care |
| 09:24.12 | [mharrison] | I'm not using *search* any more |
| 09:24.29 | [mharrison] | I'm going to find all my web pages by word-of-mouth from now on |
| 09:25.22 | [mharrison] | Or perhaps by six degrees of separation |
| 09:29.13 | mlankhorst | I doubt it |
| 09:29.31 | mlankhorst | Anyway, in this channel you won't find people who care :) |
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| 09:30.29 | kblin | d'oh, forgot something |
| 09:31.14 | [mharrison] | wonders who peed in mlankhorst 's corn flakes this morning |
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| 09:31.48 | kblin | there |
| 09:33.26 | [mharrison] | kblin, you know, this isn't a *real* room. You can stay here while you go off to get what you forgot =P |
| 09:33.49 | kblin | meh, I forgot to start irssi in a screen session |
| 09:34.15 | kblin | interesting |
| 09:34.31 | kblin | the "proxy" feature of irssi is way cool |
| 09:54.48 | straydawg | kblin: what'sthat? |
| 09:54.51 | straydawg | kblin: (proxy feature) |
| 09:55.35 | straydawg | kblin: hmm aha |
| 09:55.42 | straydawg | kblin: hmm interesting |
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| 10:18.33 | kblin | straydawg: see how much you learned due to me being busy and afk :) |
| 10:18.51 | straydawg | lucky me yes :) |
| 10:21.35 | mlankhorst | kblin: That's why I fake afk sometimes :) |
| 10:21.46 | mlankhorst | (or really go afk) |
| 10:27.15 | kblin | I just really go afk :) |
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| 10:57.19 | [mharrison] | I'm so freaking weird. 6am, I'm still awake, and I just went to 7-11 to buy 3 things of tomato juice |
| 11:05.40 | [mharrison] | oof, and I added a tad too much cayenne to it |
| 11:09.52 | kblin | er.. why is that stupid chain called 7-11 if they're open at 6? that's false advertising... |
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| 11:10.27 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: "The 10 o'clock shop" in Bristol is open 8am-1am |
| 11:11.25 | [mharrison] | The grocery store here is called "Stop 'n Shop." That's pretty accurate. |
| 11:11.50 | MatthewWilkes | "Smash-n-grab" has never been ram-raided. I like that. |
| 11:12.13 | sid0__ | kblin: like apple's? ;) |
| 11:14.29 | [mharrison] | What a terrible picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Big_gulp6480.JPG |
| 11:20.31 | kblin | anyway, back to work |
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| 11:23.31 | [mharrison] | Wikipedia should not be read at 6am: The second tomacco was given to a Simpsons writer. The third was sold on eBay and the fourth was eaten by a Xerox engineer who suffered no apparent ill effects from the tomacco. |
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| 17:47.34 | mlankhorst | lh :O |
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| 18:45.53 | mlankhorst | lh :O |
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| 18:47.01 | lh | mlankhorst: hello dear |
| 18:47.15 | lh | is hosting fosscamp today |
| 18:47.19 | lh | http://www.fosscamp.org |
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| 18:47.57 | mlankhorst | Bit too late for me to come, it's also sinterklaas ;p |
| 18:49.12 | lh | mlankhorst: sinterklaas? |
| 18:49.14 | lh | that reminds me |
| 18:49.18 | lh | hands mlankhorst a candy cane |
| 18:51.37 | mlankhorst | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas |
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| 18:54.10 | mlankhorst | Keep in mind, every year again you get the same 'zwarte piet is racist' discussion :\ |
| 18:57.55 | mordante | mlankhorst did you read that some schools recieved threads this year ? |
| 18:58.05 | mlankhorst | Yes |
| 18:58.10 | mlankhorst | It's just some moron |
| 18:58.15 | mordante | really sad |
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| 19:00.27 | lh | pokes link |
| 19:00.54 | lh | hmmm, fascinating |
| 19:00.59 | lh | schools got threatened, why? |
| 19:01.18 | mordante | they would be burned down if they had a zwarte piet with them |
| 19:02.00 | mordante | the zwarte piet (black pete) is black so a lot of people now feel it's racism |
| 19:03.12 | mordante | it seems some people think we should be 100% political correct even if if means we can't have some tradition anymore :( |
| 19:04.23 | lh | i like tradition. |
| 19:04.39 | lh | if we erase all of our traditions, how do we learn not to repeat past mistakes. |
| 19:04.43 | lh | again with my why i hate people. |
| 19:04.56 | mlankhorst | too |
| 19:05.08 | mordante | too |
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| 19:08.55 | mordante | lh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet#Current_affairs (and the multi coloured black petes where really a sad thing) |
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| 19:18.49 | lh | see the candy is good |
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| 19:19.04 | lh | i can understand the consternation, but people. we evolve. |
| 19:19.05 | mordante | oh yes it is :) |
| 19:19.25 | lh | it's like arguing for destroying the fossil record because it angers the religious |
| 19:20.05 | mlankhorst | We should destroy it, it's pure blasphemey |
| 19:20.15 | mordante | somebody might see that as a good suggestion ;) |
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| 19:23.34 | lh | again with why i hate people. |
| 19:24.13 | mlankhorst | :) |
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| 19:26.40 | mordante | indeed |
| 19:27.32 | lh | serves cocoa, cookies, cake, coffee, iced tea, some delicious cheese for scorche, some cucumber sandwiches for catfish_man even though he's not here, and some veggies n' dip |
| 19:27.38 | lh | and now to get work done! |
| 19:27.39 | lh | :) |
| 19:28.09 | mlankhorst | :o |
| 19:28.10 | Ivanovic | takes some of the cookies |
| 19:28.11 | mordante | jummie :) |
| 19:28.19 | mlankhorst | wants pepernoten |
| 19:28.24 | Ivanovic | those go really well with the cuba libre i am holding in my hands... |
| 19:28.26 | lh | mlankhorst: i have no idea what this is |
| 19:28.42 | mordante | also wants pepernoten |
| 19:28.44 | mlankhorst | = yummy :) |
| 19:28.50 | lh | mlankhorst: ah very good |
| 19:28.56 | lh | really goes to get work done now |
| 19:29.00 | mlankhorst | Also for sinterklaas |
| 19:29.01 | Ivanovic | and i already got some (lovely ;) ) stuff done today... |
| 19:29.02 | mlankhorst | g'luck |
| 19:29.21 | mordante | continues to debug a memory allocator |
| 19:29.53 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 19:30.21 | mlankhorst | gets back to debugging gcc |
| 19:31.10 | Ivanovic | had some real (not so) fun today with the computers in one of the pools at the university when trying to make some stuff for "building operating systems" work |
| 19:31.14 | Ivanovic | *argh* |
| 19:31.29 | Ivanovic | those normal admins there are so *bad*, the stuff barely works if at all |
| 19:31.52 | Ivanovic | those are machines that are meant to be worked on by cs students yet the dev headers for 99% of the packages are missing... |
| 19:31.58 | mordante | maybe you first need to rebuild that OS before you are allowed to build your own ;) |
| 19:32.00 | mlankhorst | O_O |
| 19:32.14 | mlankhorst | You can't build an os without the dev headers |
| 19:32.15 | Ivanovic | mordante: uhm, the class *is* about building an OS |
| 19:32.33 | Ivanovic | that is: to do some testing normally bochs ist used as emulator |
| 19:32.49 | Ivanovic | but now we are also going to offer an extra challenge for those willing to take it |
| 19:33.07 | Ivanovic | this extra challange consists of making the os built smp compatible |
| 19:33.22 | mordante | yes but first you need to work on getting the existing one to function |
| 19:33.28 | Ivanovic | and bochs does not handle smp well (all interrupt request go exclusivly to one cpu) |
| 19:33.46 | Ivanovic | but, hey, there is qemu which does the job greatly |
| 19:34.07 | Ivanovic | just that the version of qemu that is installed on those machines is bulls*** and does not work at all |
| 19:34.30 | Ivanovic | and to compile an own version, you of course need sdl and no dev headers on this machine available |
| 19:34.40 | mlankhorst | Are you sure you're not studying at my university? ;) |
| 19:34.51 | Ivanovic | mlankhorst: quite sure... |
| 19:34.53 | mlankhorst | The sysadmins seem to be confused by this linux thing |
| 19:35.19 | Ivanovic | mlankhorst: ah, relax, you probably never had to work with solaris 5... |
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| 19:35.32 | mordante | in my experience they are confused by everything |
| 19:35.47 | Ivanovic | those lovely admins had some great scripts written that were needed to correctly setup your home dir |
| 19:36.01 | Ivanovic | but they only did so in completely unportable csh |
| 19:36.35 | Ivanovic | so switching to bash as default shell was a no go since then the account would go boom (for real) and you had to go to the admins to have it set back to csh again |
| 19:36.54 | Ivanovic | so the best possible change available was to tcsh, not this much better if you are used to bash... |
| 19:36.55 | mlankhorst | Hold on, those machines run solaris 5? |
| 19:37.02 | Ivanovic | mlankhorst: that was some time ago |
| 19:37.10 | Ivanovic | the work i have done today was on linux machines |
| 19:37.26 | Ivanovic | in general a debian stable but they seem to have done some stuff in a pretty bad way... |
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| 19:37.54 | Ivanovic | (but yeah, on some systems we still got some solaris stuff and i stay away from it as far as i can, don't ask me which version is used there atm) |
| 19:38.21 | Ivanovic | loves competent admins |
| 19:38.31 | Ivanovic | (but why are they this difficult to find?) |
| 19:39.05 | mlankhorst | Because they can get better jobs in the real world? |
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| 20:21.20 | randi-_ | lh: ping |
| 20:49.33 | lh | randi-: pong |
| 21:01.44 | randi- | lh: sorry about last night - igor was sickly and i was taking care of him. didn't see the sms until this morning. |
| 21:02.00 | mlankhorst | Yawn |
| 21:02.08 | mlankhorst | I now got a hello world program running |
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| 23:58.16 | lh | randi-: all good, sorry to hear igor was sick |
| 23:58.24 | Catfish_Man | hi folks, hi lh :) |
| 23:58.27 | mlankhorst | wave |
| 23:59.12 | lh | Catfish_Man: hello dear. cucumber sandwiches were served earlier in your absence. |
| 23:59.16 | lh | whips up some fresh ones |
| 23:59.22 | Catfish_Man | hehe |
| 23:59.28 | Catfish_Man | cinnamon roll and sandwiches, I'm doing well today :) |
