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15:46.38 | easwar | HCl is registered,but nickserv didn't throw me out after 30 seconds |
15:46.58 | easwar | oops,wrong channel |
15:49.29 | thebolt|away | easwar: not everyone have theiur nick set for autokill.. (i for one don't) |
15:49.50 | easwar | hmm |
15:50.01 | thebolt | :P |
15:50.17 | thebolt | thebolt|away is an impostor |
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15:50.44 | thebolt|away | does not mean i can do it manually :P |
15:50.48 | thebolt|away | cannot* |
15:51.32 | easwar | thebolt|away, how did you do that? |
15:51.54 | thebolt|away | you do /msg nickserv ghost <nickname> <password> |
15:52.07 | Ivanovic | this command: /nickserv ghost NICKNAME PASSWORD |
15:52.18 | easwar | will come in useful when I have an error in my network,but the channel still retains my nick,even if I've switched my router off |
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15:56.09 | easwar | thebolt|away, then thebolt|away is a separate nick of yours? |
15:56.47 | easwar | what's a cloak?Isn't a nick change because of your being away a cloak? |
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17:02.23 | thiago | easwar: no, a cloak is your IP/hostname changed to a generic thing |
17:02.49 | thiago | see: 15:02 -!- thiago [i=thiago@kde/thiago] |
17:03.06 | easwar | thiago, ?? |
17:03.35 | thiago | 13:56 < easwar> what's a cloak?Isn't a nick change because of your being away a cloak? |
17:04.15 | easwar | thiago, I got that.What with the see: 15:02 ......... |
17:04.17 | easwar | ? |
17:04.54 | bobbens | he copied something from his irc client |
17:04.58 | bobbens | has the timestamp |
17:05.02 | thiago | whois yourself then whois me |
17:05.05 | thiago | you'll see the difference |
17:05.06 | bobbens | and he's pointing out thiago's ip is cloaked |
17:05.24 | bobbens | unlike some of us who have nothing to hide :P |
17:06.06 | easwar | thiago, how do you do that? |
17:06.25 | thiago | you have to ask Freenode administration |
17:06.25 | bobbens | read about freenode policies :) |
17:06.45 | easwar | bobbens, I appreciate that,but don't appreciate being traced to my geographical location without wanting to,via Reverse DNS |
17:06.57 | thiago | easwar: then don't connect to IRC |
17:06.58 | bobbens | well my ip isn't my real one :) |
17:07.02 | thiago | in fact, don't use the Internet |
17:07.05 | bobbens | it's a vserver :) |
17:07.23 | easwar | thiago, and it will be nigh possible to cloak your IP if it's not static,right? |
17:07.24 | bobbens | most people assume it is and that i'm german though :) |
17:07.48 | easwar | thiago, that's an extreme solution |
17:08.01 | bobbens | easwar: it's linked to your registered nick |
17:08.14 | bobbens | which is why before some people login you see them uncloaked |
17:08.49 | easwar | bobbens, so you can cloak even if you have a dynamic IP? |
17:08.57 | bobbens | yes |
17:09.40 | easwar | bobbens, but you have to know the range of IP addresses you can be allotted if you want to cloak it? |
17:09.42 | thiago | easwar: no |
17:09.49 | thiago | the cloaking happens when you identify to nickserv |
17:10.16 | easwar | thiago, ok,and how do you do it? |
17:10.26 | bobbens | scroll up |
17:11.00 | easwar | well,other than asking freenode admin |
17:11.23 | bobbens | get someone else to ask a freenode admin |
17:11.24 | thiago | I type: /quote nickserv identify <my-password> |
17:12.00 | easwar | bobbens, why?freenode admins don't entertain requests from casual users? |
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17:12.30 | bobbens | no, just indicating that there is no other way then to ask a freenode admin |
17:12.35 | bobbens | i recommend you read up on freenode policies |
17:13.35 | easwar | thiago, didn't work.Has it to be done when you login? |
17:13.40 | thiago | no |
17:13.45 | thiago | have you talked to an admin alraedy? |
17:13.56 | easwar | thiago, nope |
17:14.08 | thiago | then it won't work |
17:14.20 | thiago | first you get a cloak from Freenode. Only then can you use it. |
17:14.25 | easwar | thiago, ok |
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18:43.20 | Matthew_ | Hello |
18:44.41 | Landon | oi |
18:45.13 | Matthew_ | hi |
18:45.15 | Matthew_ | I'm new |
18:45.20 | Matthew_ | to the whole IRC thing |
18:45.43 | Matthew_ | but I'm prospective student wishing to take advantage of this project this summer |
18:45.51 | Landon | cool cool |
18:45.52 | Matthew_ | *i'm a prospective... |
18:46.12 | Matthew_ | Are there any kinds of courtesy rules I should be acknowledging? |
18:46.25 | Landon | common sense :P but you |
18:46.31 | Landon | 're doign a pretty good job at that |
18:46.36 | Matthew_ | thanks |
18:46.39 | Landon | what year are you? |
18:46.55 | Matthew_ | I'm 3rd year in college current, computer science major |
18:47.03 | Matthew_ | *currently |
18:47.14 | Matthew_ | pardon my typos |
18:47.38 | Landon | sfine |
18:48.02 | Matthew_ | which type of client do you recommend for using IRC, I downloaded chatzilla because it seemed easy |
18:48.25 | Landon | I personally use irssi as do many others here |
18:48.41 | Landon | but if you're not comfortable with command line I wouldnt recommend it |
18:49.10 | Landon | I'm not too up to date on the gui front, but I think xchat is another good client |
18:49.23 | Matthew_ | well I'm a linux user so command line isn't that big a problem |
18:50.05 | Matthew_ | I just haven't seen a concise guide for connecting to networks and registering nicknames and all that |
18:50.33 | Landon | for registering nicknames, /msg nickserv help |
18:50.41 | Matthew_ | oh thanks |
18:51.14 | Matthew_ | I'm guessing that not too many people use Matthew as their nickname up here |
18:51.38 | grandadmiralmcb | I've just changed my name |
18:52.00 | grandadmiralmcb | thanks for the advice |
18:53.23 | grandadmiralmcb | so is it difficult to get included in the gsoc project? |
18:53.35 | Landon | nah |
18:53.46 | grandadmiralmcb | that's good |
18:53.59 | Landon | just get to know the communities/projects you're applying for |
18:54.07 | Landon | hang around in their IRC channels |
18:54.20 | grandadmiralmcb | yeah, that's probably the most important thing, establishing contacts |
18:54.25 | grandadmiralmcb | I'll keep that in mind |
18:55.22 | grandadmiralmcb | what's a good set of programming languages that would be most useful for most of the communities and projects? |
18:55.32 | grandadmiralmcb | I'm guessing the usual C++, python, java |
18:55.44 | grandadmiralmcb | any others you think are also needed? |
18:55.54 | Landon | well |
18:56.00 | Landon | !orgsbylang |
18:56.00 | socinfo | Error: "orgsbylang" is not a valid command. |
18:56.02 | Landon | dang |
18:56.09 | Landon | it doesn't really matter |
18:56.15 | grandadmiralmcb | oh okay |
18:56.16 | Landon | chances are you'll find an org for every mainstream language |
18:56.24 | grandadmiralmcb | that's awesome |
18:56.35 | Landon | have you seen the list of orgs from previous years? |
18:57.04 | grandadmiralmcb | I've looked through some lists, a lot of major organizations were up there like canonical, mozilla, etc |
18:57.15 | Landon | yeah |
18:57.16 | Landon | plenty :P |
18:57.35 | pygi | grandadmiralmcb, Canonical/Ubuntu weren't there last year |
18:57.57 | pygi | and for a good reason too IMHO |
18:58.04 | grandadmiralmcb | yeah |
18:58.53 | grandadmiralmcb | yeah canonical has made a few weird decisions lately |
19:00.27 | grandadmiralmcb | like the noninclusion of openoffice 3.0 in their intrepid ibex release or that hardware killing bug they had during beta |
19:01.37 | pygi | that has nothing to do with gsoc |
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19:02.57 | grandadmiralmcb | I'm sorry |
19:03.42 | grandadmiralmcb | I was just continuing the conversation, as to why it was good reason for why they weren't in last years gsoc--I'm sure student testers would not like to have something like that happen to them (hardware bug) |
19:03.56 | grandadmiralmcb | but I do have questions more pertinent to gsoc |
19:04.11 | grandadmiralmcb | such as when do applications start again for 2009 |
19:04.26 | Landon | after gsoc 2009 has been confirmed as happening |
19:04.27 | Landon | :P |
19:04.32 | grandadmiralmcb | right |
19:04.39 | grandadmiralmcb | I hope it does though |
19:04.41 | Landon | has played paper mario for 13:37 |
19:05.17 | grandadmiralmcb | if not I'll just volunteer for one of these organizations that I meet either from here or elsewhere |
19:05.27 | pygi | hehe :) |
19:05.29 | grandadmiralmcb | I just want to get some code out to the community |
19:05.29 | pygi | thats nice |
19:05.38 | pygi | grandadmiralmcb, you can start right away then :) |
19:05.43 | grandadmiralmcb | really? |
19:05.53 | pygi | well, sure, you can always volunteer :) |
19:05.58 | grandadmiralmcb | that's right |
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19:06.52 | grandadmiralmcb | I've done some volunteer work for people in my local area, I worked on a .net project that was a specialized word processor that read in templates from a database and were edited by the user. |
19:07.23 | Landon | whwere are you at? |
19:07.30 | grandadmiralmcb | eastern NC |
19:07.39 | grandadmiralmcb | in USA |
19:07.46 | grandadmiralmcb | if that helps get my geographic region |
19:07.55 | Landon | cool |
19:08.15 | grandadmiralmcb | Currently I'm working on a project for a lightweight dock for windows vista |
19:08.31 | grandadmiralmcb | a simple one with user editble icons and stuff |
19:09.18 | grandadmiralmcb | I'm working on it in vb 2008 to get a grasp of XAML |
19:09.37 | Landon | XAML? |
19:10.04 | grandadmiralmcb | I think its a proprietary standard from microsoft that's looks a lot like XML |
19:10.16 | Landon | heh |
19:10.24 | grandadmiralmcb | xtensivle application markup language |
19:10.40 | grandadmiralmcb | its like taking an application and coding it similar to a webpage I guess |
19:10.45 | grandadmiralmcb | *Extensible |
19:11.07 | Landon | for the GUI bit? |
19:11.08 | grandadmiralmcb | I believe its tied to the WPF in vista |
19:11.10 | grandadmiralmcb | yeah |
19:11.17 | grandadmiralmcb | for the GUI bit |
19:11.48 | grandadmiralmcb | I like that better than how they had it in the previous vb's |
19:11.58 | grandadmiralmcb | because the gui bit was tied together with your code |
19:12.29 | grandadmiralmcb | now how the application looks is usually handled separately I believe |
19:12.29 | grandadmiralmcb | but I'm still learning more as to how that works |
19:13.15 | grandadmiralmcb | here's a quick clip from the msdn .net framework developer center |
19:13.17 | grandadmiralmcb | XAML simplifies creating a UI for the .NET Framework programming model. You can create visible UI elements in the declarative XAML markup, and then separate the UI definition from the run-time logic by using code-behind files, joined to the markup through partial class definitions. The ability to mix code with markup in XAML is important because XML by itself is declarative, and does not... |
19:13.18 | grandadmiralmcb | ...really suggest a model for flow control. An XML based declarative language is very intuitive for creating interfaces ranging from prototype to production, especially for people with a background in web design and technologies. Unlike most other markup languages, XAML directly represents the instantiation of managed objects. This general design principle enables simplified code and... |
19:13.20 | grandadmiralmcb | ...debugging access for objects that are created in XAML. |
19:13.26 | grandadmiralmcb | oops |
19:13.29 | grandadmiralmcb | that was a bit big |
19:14.04 | grandadmiralmcb | but I'm hoping that maybe by learning this I can be useful to an organization in gsoc that designs for the .net framework and WPF |
19:14.14 | grandadmiralmcb | just broadening my skill base |
19:20.48 | grandadmiralmcb | well I'll see you people around, I have things to do, it was a pleasure speaking with those who spoke with me |
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20:18.37 | summatusmentis | hi all |
20:24.08 | MatthewWilkes | hi summatusmentis |
20:24.46 | summatusmentis | how goes it MatthewWilkes |
20:32.26 | MatthewWilkes | ok, thanks, you? |
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21:22.08 | summatusmentis | MatthewWilkes: I'm alright, tired |
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