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| 13:16.29 | k03chandra | hi all |
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| 13:23.20 | krish | where lh? |
| 13:24.43 | kblin | no here |
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| 13:26.17 | krish | kblin: hi |
| 13:26.24 | krish | i made a soc logo.. sort of |
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| 13:28.16 | kblin | krish: oh? |
| 13:28.27 | krish | uploading... |
| 13:33.14 | krish | kblin: http://tinyurl.com/amffom |
| 13:35.53 | krish | sigh |
| 13:36.01 | ajuonline | krish: but why? :P |
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| 13:36.07 | kblin | reminds me of old games..... imagine a couple of worms running around in front of that, blasting the crap out of each other |
| 13:36.09 | ajuonline | krish: SoC 09 logo is out already |
| 13:36.16 | krish | ajuonline: yes i know |
| 13:36.18 | ajuonline | checks |
| 13:36.20 | krish | just for fun |
| 13:36.32 | ajuonline | nice nice |
| 13:36.42 | ajuonline | krish: mbuf is here :Pat gnunify :) |
| 13:36.49 | krish | njoy |
| 13:36.53 | krish | hows it going? |
| 13:37.02 | ajuonline | krish: my talk went well, it was 1130 |
| 13:37.09 | krish | kblin: wormux? |
| 13:37.15 | krish | ajuonline: nice. |
| 13:37.34 | krish | ajuonline: I guess mbuf had his talk before you? |
| 13:38.12 | ajuonline | krish: no, his is tomorrow. |
| 13:38.19 | ajuonline | krish: that is not a serial wise talk list. |
| 13:39.18 | krish | oh okay. |
| 13:39.36 | krish | ajuonline: weaving new soc projects in mind? |
| 13:39.58 | ajuonline | krish: hmm not yet |
| 13:39.58 | krish | 1000 students only :P |
| 13:40.56 | kblin | :) |
| 13:41.15 | ajuonline | krish: if you see less than that passed last year. so i guess its fair :D |
| 13:41.28 | krish | guess so |
| 13:41.35 | kblin | I'm really wondering if I want to make use of my last chance of participating as a student this year |
| 13:41.43 | krish | me too |
| 13:41.57 | ajuonline | kblin: you are good as a mentor :D |
| 13:42.01 | krish | kblin: ex-mentors not allowed |
| 13:42.06 | ajuonline | and its my last chance as well. |
| 13:42.07 | krish | new rule :) |
| 13:42.20 | kblin | krish: I'll go complain to LH |
| 13:42.26 | ajuonline | lol |
| 13:42.34 | ajuonline | krish: make one logo for Sahana. |
| 13:42.34 | krish | buys flowers for lh already |
| 13:42.45 | krish | ajuonline: sahana already has a logo isnt it? |
| 13:42.51 | ajuonline | krish: no. we dont. |
| 13:42.58 | krish | hey i saw some flower thingy |
| 13:43.04 | krish | flower logo |
| 13:43.50 | kblin | ajuonline: but mentoring is a lot of work as well, and decidedly less well-paid ;) |
| 13:43.52 | ajuonline | krish: yeah , but thats not a logo. |
| 13:44.07 | krish | ajuonline: link me to it again please |
| 13:44.35 | ajuonline | krish: ints on the mailing list. main-dev, the thread. or the design wiki http://wiki.sahana.lk |
| 13:48.39 | kblin | I'm actually kidding. I'm hoping to have the time to mentor, I certainly don't have time to learn a new project |
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| 13:51.45 | ajuonline | kblin: wine? |
| 13:55.43 | kblin | mentoring? dunno, need to look at the list of proposed projects |
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| 14:52.39 | kosss | how about new requirements - "1000 students" |
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| 15:37.36 | dberkholz | kblin: for me at least, i think i'll grow more by mentoring rather than being a student. |
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| 18:10.32 | MatthewWilkes | hehe, firefox on wine faster than on windows, excellent |
| 18:14.13 | kblin | :) |
| 18:15.17 | sid0 | MatthewWilkes: faster than on linux you mean :/ |
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| 18:15.34 | sid0 | http://www.tuxradar.com/files/firefox-winlin-v8-2.png |
| 18:16.16 | MatthewWilkes | sid0: err, yes, crap |
| 18:16.17 | MatthewWilkes | misread |
| 18:16.57 | sid0 | MatthewWilkes: my hypothesis is that it's because of the better compiler + profile guided optimization |
| 18:17.49 | kblin | well, given that win32 ff in wine is almost as fast as on native, it has to be the executable |
| 18:18.29 | kblin | unless someone made wine overclock your cpu |
| 18:18.32 | kblin | goes to check |
| 18:19.41 | MatthewWilkes | "There is no random device by default as no secure implementation has been finished yet. An easy (but very insecure) work-around is to copy a binary file like /bin/bash to /dev/random and /dev/urandom. " -- hahahahaha |
| 18:20.26 | kblin | hm? |
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| 18:21.02 | MatthewWilkes | from hurd's docs |
| 18:21.13 | danderson | bwahahahah |
| 18:21.15 | danderson | epic awesome. |
| 18:21.30 | danderson | I love the suggestion to use bash as entropy |
| 18:21.32 | kblin | sweet |
| 18:21.56 | Ivanovic | loves those "open source game of the year" award stuff... |
| 18:21.57 | Ivanovic | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/2008-linuxquestions.org-members-choice-awards-83/open-source-game-of-the-year-695660/ |
| 18:22.22 | kblin | could be worse.. could be /dev/zero.. or /bin/yes |
| 18:22.40 | kblin | oh, wait |
| 18:22.42 | danderson | bah, why is openarena in the contest... |
| 18:22.47 | kblin | they're just using the contest |
| 18:22.57 | danderson | they are open source only in the most laughable letter-of-the-law sense |
| 18:23.06 | danderson | ever tried to check out & build their code? |
| 18:23.21 | danderson | no instructions, many different makefiles, none of which compile, cryptic errors... |
| 18:23.42 | Ivanovic | danderson: though a "real" open source game has won |
| 18:24.02 | danderson | (sorry if any Openarena devs are here. But: you suck and need to fix your build system and repository layout) |
| 18:25.04 | danderson | Ivanovic: not by that far, openarena was a strong second |
| 18:25.15 | Ivanovic | hmm, 5% difference is *a lot* |
| 18:25.32 | danderson | I strongly believe that any game passing itself off as "open source" should be subject to the Debian rule |
| 18:26.10 | danderson | Fails to Build From Scratch -> not open source |
| 18:26.26 | danderson | what good is all the source code in the world if it takes so long to build it that nobody does |
| 18:27.00 | scorche | well, at least the gentooers wont mind |
| 18:27.05 | danderson | Ivanovic: didn't say it was close, just said that it's a strong second position |
| 18:27.11 | danderson | compared to the other scores |
| 18:27.49 | danderson | scorche: in my case, I was trying to mod an openarena server with some instrumentation, to track game progress |
| 18:27.58 | danderson | I never managed to build a server binary that ran properly. |
| 18:28.10 | scorche | and in my case, i was joking ;) |
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| 18:28.28 | danderson | Now, I can believe that this is because I suck at building software |
| 18:28.42 | danderson | but I like to think I'm at least minimally smart at using build systems :P |
| 18:33.14 | dberkholz | openoffice by hand is fun |
| 18:33.34 | dberkholz | it used to take 26 hours to build on my ibook g4 |
| 18:34.45 | RazZziel | there was a reason for openoffice being the only FOSS binary package I used when I was using Gentoo... |
| 18:35.45 | Ivanovic | RazZziel: yeah, same here |
| 18:36.05 | Ivanovic | OO is just too bad to really build myself for every release... |
| 18:36.21 | Ori_B | heh. OOo <-- a sound representing pain. Also the sound made when building OpenOffice.org |
| 18:36.32 | RazZziel | lol |
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| 19:40.03 | lh | ArthurLiu: ping |
| 19:40.08 | lh | ArthurLiu: how did it go? |
| 19:40.13 | ArthurLiu | lh: hi! |
| 19:40.40 | Ivanovic | hi lh |
| 19:40.40 | scorche | lh! |
| 19:40.43 | Ivanovic | gives lh a hug |
| 19:40.49 | Ivanovic | came back well to the us? |
| 19:41.03 | ArthurLiu | it was really nice, we talked about *NDAed* and *NDAed* and he asked about how I'd implement *NDAed* and *NDAed* and discussed types of candies available à Zurich :) |
| 19:42.37 | Ivanovic | celebrates that wesnoth was elected as open source game of the year 2008 by linuxquestions.org |
| 19:42.57 | Ivanovic | ahh, this cuba libre is really tasty... |
| 19:44.13 | ArthurLiu | "Server Distribution of the Year - Debian (25.55%)" no joke :D |
| 19:44.31 | scorche | distr*i*bution? |
| 19:45.31 | scorche | wonders where that came from and looks at his keyboards quizzically |
| 19:45.55 | ArthurLiu | wonders what's wrong with his i key |
| 19:46.02 | scorche | glares at his s key too |
| 19:46.52 | scorche | ArthurLiu: apparently my keyboard is just trying to be snarky |
| 19:47.03 | ArthurLiu | oh and Debian went ahead of Slackware, Ubuntu, CentOS and RHEL (in this order) in this poll |
| 19:47.18 | ArthurLiu | this is definitely a non-IT pros poll :) |
| 19:48.10 | scorche | eh?...what is non-IT pros-ish about that result? |
| 19:49.30 | ArthurLiu | *not trolling today* |
| 19:50.15 | lh | Ivanovic: hello dear |
| 19:50.17 | lh | *hugs* |
| 19:50.24 | lh | scorche: hello. we meeting up at SCALE? |
| 19:50.33 | lh | ArthurLiu: cool, sounds like it went well |
| 19:50.42 | lh | Ivanovic: yes, and happy to be home. though i love fosdem and BRU |
| 19:50.52 | lh | Ivanovic: and congratulations!! |
| 19:50.57 | Garuma | (and Belgian beer) |
| 19:51.03 | scorche | you dont have to be troll...i just dont understand what is unprofessional about Debian.. |
| 19:51.15 | scorche | lh: yes maam! =) |
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| 19:52.08 | ArthurLiu | oh, Debian is okay (/me hides Debian hat), but Slackware in 2009 ? anyway, it's a popular vote, not scientific one :) |
| 19:52.43 | scorche | shrugs |
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| 19:53.09 | scorche | still uses slackware at times |
| 19:53.29 | Mordante | hi lh, I really liked your FOSDEM talk :-) |
| 19:54.33 | kizzo | Is it too early to ask for more information about a particular project? I am a student and am interested in http://wiki.python.org/moin/PdbImprovments. |
| 19:54.47 | kizzo | For GSOC 2009. |
| 19:54.54 | ArthurLiu | kizzo, you should probably go see the python guys instead |
| 19:55.01 | scorche | kizzo: it isnt too early at all!...however you should be asking the organization instead ;) |
| 19:55.38 | kizzo | I emailed JamesTauber (the only email found on Python's GSOC 2008 site) and haven't gotten a reply yet. |
| 19:55.42 | lh | scorcheawesome! |
| 19:55.46 | kizzo | Just thought I'd ask. |
| 19:56.01 | lh | Mordante: thank you so much. it was great to be able to give that talk. very empowering for me and i hope useful for other folks |
| 19:56.17 | lh | kizzo: james is a busy dude. have you tried contacting them on IRC? |
| 19:56.19 | Mordante | yes it was really interesting |
| 19:56.23 | scorche | waits for the talk to be placed on the tubes somewhere where he can watch |
| 19:56.24 | lh | Mordante: woot! |
| 19:56.32 | lh | scorche: should be up soon. |
| 19:56.35 | ajuonline | hugs lh |
| 19:56.41 | ajuonline | lh: yO! |
| 19:57.03 | kizzo | lh: Yeah I don't mean to bother - I'm just looking for the "next step". |
| 19:57.09 | kizzo | lh: I'm on #gsoc-python right now. |
| 19:57.22 | kizzo | lh: And I've mentioned my feelings on #python. |
| 19:57.42 | kizzo | lh: I think I'll ask for more info from those two places then. |
| 19:58.05 | gpolo | kizzo: you may want to post the idea on python-ideas |
| 19:58.13 | scorche | kizzo: have you tried mailing lists? |
| 19:58.26 | lh | kizzo: you are not bothering my friend, happy to help |
| 19:58.29 | gpolo | kizzo: it is not related to gsoc, but you will be able to notice if people like the idea or not |
| 19:58.35 | lh | ajuonline: how are you ajay? so nice to "see" you |
| 19:58.42 | kizzo | scorche: No I have not. Perhaps I should then. |
| 19:59.32 | ajuonline | lh: I am glad. just a lil sleep deprived :) gave a talk today at an event and have a hackfest to conduct tomorrow :) on valentines we do what we love the most. :D Code for Sahan ;) |
| 19:59.38 | ajuonline | s/Sahan/Sahana |
| 19:59.42 | lh | ajuonline: woot! :) |
| 19:59.49 | lh | kizzo: also a good option. :) |
| 19:59.55 | kizzo | lh: You just left #gsoc-python : ). |
| 20:00.08 | lh | kizzo: no one in there that can help you. |
| 20:00.13 | lh | looking in #python nowish |
| 20:00.19 | gpolo | unlikely |
| 20:00.35 | kizzo | lh: Yeah I hang out on #python primarily and voiced my concerns. |
| 20:01.16 | kizzo | lh: I'll look for more information from #python then. |
| 20:01.24 | kizzo | [ for now ] |
| 20:02.32 | lh | gpolo: better place for kizzo to ask? or is python-ideas the place? |
| 20:03.22 | gpolo | lh: python-ideas is a maillist tho, unrelated to gsoc. Still, if he post something there and people agree on it then it is a good sign |
| 20:03.55 | gpolo | lh: last year psf created a soc2008-general maillist, maybe it is too early yet |
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| 20:04.14 | kizzo | gpolo: PdbImprovements isn't a "new" idea - It's already listed as a project at http://wiki.python.org/moin/PdbImprovments. |
| 20:04.21 | scorche | hrm...can anyone point me to the slides/presentation that is around about GSoC?...i would like to see about refining them for my own "presentation" for local schools... |
| 20:04.23 | gpolo | kizzo: just like last year |
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| 20:04.40 | kizzo | gpolo: Yeah. |
| 20:04.41 | gpolo | kizzo: they rest there for a long time, the idea may not be good anymore, or something else |
| 20:05.01 | kizzo | gpolo: Oh I see. |
| 20:05.09 | kizzo | gpolo: ..what you're saying. |
| 20:05.24 | gpolo | kizzo: if you want to discuss something specifically related to gsoc, then you better wait for a soc2009-general maillist from psf |
| 20:05.30 | scorche | finds http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/downloads/detail?name=GSoC2009-Presentation.ppt&can=2&q= |
| 20:05.36 | gpolo | supposing they sign in for gsoc and get accepted again |
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| 20:06.46 | lh | gpolo: thanks for your help. :) |
| 20:06.52 | lh | penyaskito: all hail christian! |
| 20:07.00 | gpolo | lh: you are welcome |
| 20:07.09 | lh | scorche: we have updated ones coming shortly, but heres a start |
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| 20:07.32 | penyaskito | Hi LH! |
| 20:08.09 | scorche | lh: i hate to ask from an estimate, but do you know how soon "shortly" is?...I would like to schedule a few presentations/get flyers up about it so people come/spread the word/etc |
| 20:08.11 | lh | scorche: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/ProgramPresentations |
| 20:08.14 | scorche | s/from/for |
| 20:08.27 | lh | scorche: it should have been done a couple of days ago. likely this weekend. |
| 20:08.29 | scorche | lh: yup...that is what i found above =) |
| 20:08.47 | scorche | and i assume they will be posted in the same place? |
| 20:09.13 | lh | scorche: correcyt |
| 20:09.16 | lh | correct even |
| 20:09.19 | scorche | thanks much |
| 20:09.20 | lh | penyaskito: how are you :) |
| 20:09.25 | lh | scorche: you are most welcome. |
| 20:09.40 | penyaskito | lh: Tired, busy week... Same as you I suppose :-) |
| 20:09.52 | lh | penyaskito: exactly. busy but good. life is lovely. |
| 20:10.04 | lh | is excited for gsoc 2009 and still feeling the love from fosdem |
| 20:10.28 | scorche | \o/ |
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| 20:11.41 | penyaskito | lh: This will be a great GSoC, I'm sure |
| 20:12.01 | penyaskito | btw I don't know yet if I'll apply as mentor or student |
| 20:12.27 | lh | penyaskito: either way we'd be happy to have you. |
| 20:12.32 | lh | suggests mentoring, but i am biased |
| 20:12.57 | penyaskito | lh: I'll do what my community thinks is better ;-) |
| 20:13.20 | lh | penyaskito: now that's what i love to hear. :) |
| 20:13.23 | lh | does a little happy dance |
| 20:13.31 | gpolo | hahah |
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| 20:14.07 | gpolo | ;) |
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| 20:16.21 | kizzo | Cool, thanks ya'll. |
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| 20:19.15 | lh | kizzo: you are most welcome |
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| 20:25.43 | Ori_B | hey, it's lh! |
| 20:26.54 | lh | Ori_B: it is indeedy. :) |
| 20:27.06 | Ori_B | how's it going? |
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| 20:28.06 | Ivanovic | lh: have i already mentioned that i like the new logo? |
| 20:28.10 | lh | Ori_B: very well thanks, you? |
| 20:28.30 | lh | Ivanovic: no, but thank you. i think it's super cool. reminds me of '60s art and that whole summer of love feel the love thing. |
| 20:28.31 | lh | :) |
| 20:28.56 | Ori_B | lh: not bad at all. Overworked by school, and somewhat sick. |
| 20:28.58 | Ivanovic | yeah, it looks great |
| 20:29.12 | Ori_B | oh, there's a chance that I might end up working in the bay area this summer |
| 20:29.16 | Ivanovic | and like Mordante already said, your talk at fosdem was really great |
| 20:29.26 | Ori_B | :) |
| 20:29.27 | ArthurLiu | the new logo is as whacky as usual |
| 20:29.34 | lh | Ivanovic: thank you. :) |
| 20:29.38 | Ivanovic | (though, like we already said afterwards, you left out the importance of chocolate and coffee for open source software) |
| 20:29.42 | lh | Ori_B: cool, you can come eat lunch with me. |
| 20:29.56 | Ori_B | indeed. :) |
| 20:29.56 | lh | Ivanovic: i know. i dont want to advocate my own personal passions too much though. |
| 20:29.59 | summatusmentis | hi all |
| 20:30.04 | lh | summatusmentis: yo jake! |
| 20:30.09 | Ivanovic | lh: but i think it is correct in general |
| 20:30.12 | lh | Ori_B: did i send you my tea recipe? |
| 20:30.14 | summatusmentis | ah!!! Howsit lh? |
| 20:30.15 | Mordante | but coffee is important |
| 20:30.18 | lh | Ivanovic: ask the mormons :) |
| 20:30.21 | Ivanovic | that is: chocolate does help, as we saw at the mentor summit in the talk |
| 20:30.21 | ArthurLiu | would it be possible to get a EPS version of it at some point ? I'm doing promotional material for Debian and the logo is not really B/W printer-friendly |
| 20:30.21 | Ori_B | lh: no. |
| 20:30.22 | lh | summatusmentis: very good thanks |
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| 20:30.26 | lh | Ori_B: one sec will send |
| 20:30.36 | summatusmentis | lh: good, I'm glad :) |
| 20:30.38 | Ori_B | tea has recipes? don't you just add tea leaves and water? |
| 20:30.39 | Ivanovic | does not share the enthusiasm about coffee |
| 20:30.41 | Mordante | and chocolate as well, I really enjoyed the chocolate talk at the mentor summit last year :-) |
| 20:30.50 | Ivanovic | but i see it as symbol |
| 20:30.58 | scorche | Ori_B: it is complex! a ritual! |
| 20:31.00 | Ivanovic | (and replace it with tee for myself) |
| 20:31.11 | scorche | different leaves require different temperatures and steeping times |
| 20:31.45 | lh | Ori_B: nope. |
| 20:31.49 | Mordante | I see coffee as symbol for drinks containing caffeine ;-) |
| 20:32.13 | Ori_B | scorche: ok, fair enough. :) |
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| 20:32.28 | Ori_B | lh: well, now I'm quite curious |
| 20:32.34 | lh | Ori_B: coming soon |
| 20:32.50 | Ivanovic | Mordante: i don't have to announce a new wesnoth release this evening, right? |
| 20:32.57 | Ivanovic | so i can get me some more cuba libre... |
| 20:33.03 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 20:33.19 | Ivanovic | with other words: |
| 20:33.28 | lh | Ori_B: well wtf, what's your addy? |
| 20:33.28 | kendrick | where's this flyer? |
| 20:33.29 | Ivanovic | you should follow the general rule: don't drink and announce! |
| 20:33.36 | lh | not saved in my contacts info in gmail |
| 20:33.36 | kendrick | there's a LUGOD meeting on monday, i want to print off a few copies. |
| 20:33.38 | lh | brb all |
| 20:33.39 | Ori_B | lh: ori@eigenstate.org |
| 20:33.46 | Mordante | Ivanovic no I just did preparations for gsoc so no coding here ;-) |
| 20:33.48 | lh | kendrick: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocFlyers |
| 20:33.51 | kendrick | thx |
| 20:33.59 | Ivanovic | Mordante: okay, good |
| 20:34.02 | lh | Ori_B: sent |
| 20:34.03 | lh | bbialb |
| 20:34.43 | kendrick | runs off a handful. yay networked laser printer. :) |
| 20:34.47 | Ori_B | lh: mm, sounds quite interesting :) |
| 20:35.00 | Ori_B | will definitely try it |
| 20:36.41 | kendrick | lh - do you like Atari? :) |
| 20:37.01 | kendrick | (you're surely too young :) ) |
| 20:37.19 | danderson | Atari? |
| 20:37.24 | Ori_B | gets the final 2 assignments done before his reading week break |
| 20:37.24 | danderson | As in Atari STE? |
| 20:37.31 | danderson | Omikron Basic? |
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| 20:37.48 | danderson | has fond memories of his first programming experience |
| 20:38.33 | Landon | em too |
| 20:38.34 | Landon | me * |
| 20:38.39 | Landon | I couldnt get hello world to compile |
| 20:38.41 | Landon | on the borland compiler |
| 20:38.44 | Landon | so I gave upf or a few years |
| 20:38.47 | Landon | then did visual basic |
| 20:39.21 | kendrick | danderson: i have pretty much everything BUT ST. :) 2600, 7800, 800XL, Lynx, Jaguar |
| 20:39.48 | danderson | heh, older skool than me |
| 20:39.49 | kendrick | if i could have an ST-level system, it'd be an Amiga. closer heritage to 2600/800XL/Lynx :) |
| 20:40.07 | danderson | the STe was my dad's accounting computer |
| 20:40.12 | kendrick | anyway, i'm throwing an 'Atari Party' out here in Davis at the end of March. bay area-ites are welcome. |
| 20:40.32 | kendrick | someone from sac is bringing an 520ST, so it'll be represented. |
| 20:40.36 | danderson | then one day I saw him programming some random thing in GW Basic |
| 20:40.51 | danderson | and so it began |
| 20:41.00 | kendrick | heh |
| 20:41.03 | lh | kendrick: yes |
| 20:41.04 | danderson | Omikron Basic, then QBasic on a top of the line 486 |
| 20:41.28 | kendrick | well dude, you should come out to davis. :) |
| 20:41.42 | kendrick | Star Raiders and Tempest 2000... on LUGOD's projection screen >:^) |
| 20:42.04 | danderson | I also have memories of my dad using Sapristi to interface the ST with our Minitel (french proto-internet-bbs kind of thing) to download warez :P |
| 20:42.14 | danderson | at 300 bits/sec |
| 20:42.16 | danderson | epic awesome |
| 20:42.24 | kendrick | assuming we get enough TVs/monitors (our big TV decided to let out the magic smoke last night, in the middle of a movie! :^( ) we'll have at least 10 systems running at once. |
| 20:42.36 | kendrick | i've... gone a little nuts planning this. http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/atariparty/ |
| 20:42.39 | danderson | kendrick: I'd love to, but I'm in Switzerland. |
| 20:42.55 | kendrick | that's why the FSM created airplanes |
| 20:42.57 | kendrick | giggles |
| 20:43.02 | danderson | and strangely, I don't have that many memories from games on the ST |
| 20:43.29 | danderson | I remember Leander and Lemmings |
| 20:43.42 | kendrick | i still remember my friend's amiga. populous. shadow of the beast. etc. |
| 20:43.42 | danderson | and two horrible, horrible text adventure games that destroyed my sanity |
| 20:44.14 | danderson | Darkness is Forever was one |
| 20:44.19 | danderson | The Pawn was the other |
| 20:44.26 | danderson | I never got even close to finishing those damn games |
| 20:44.29 | kendrick | oh yeah. i remember seeing ads for The Pawn |
| 20:44.39 | danderson | DiF I even got on an emulator recently and tried again |
| 20:44.56 | kendrick | heh |
| 20:44.58 | danderson | still maddeningly fail, no better than when I was 9yo |
| 20:45.18 | kendrick | knew he shouldn't have mentioned Atari in an international irc channel ;D |
| 20:45.19 | danderson | and it's such an obscure game that there are no walkthroughs |
| 20:45.56 | pinochet | Hi 4ll |
| 20:46.08 | danderson | so I'm pretty sure that I'll die not knowing what lies beyond the burned building guarded by policemen, or why I woke up with no memory of who I was |
| 20:46.23 | pinochet | it could be suitable link in old games topic: http://kotaku.com/5145909/a-second-serving-of-classic-reimagined-game-covers ;-) |
| 20:46.26 | pinochet | enjoy :D |
| 20:50.42 | kendrick | pinochet: haha awesome :) |
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| 21:03.48 | schumaml | notices the NC in the logo license |
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| 21:04.10 | schumaml | distribution with most Free software is out of the question then, I guess? |
| 21:05.20 | lh | schumaml: what are you referring to? the gsoc logo? in that case, you'd be correct. |
| 21:05.30 | schumaml | yes |
| 21:07.30 | lh | schumaml: best we could do with legal. why would you want to distribute the logo with your sw just out of curiousity? |
| 21:07.52 | schumaml | not necessarily software |
| 21:08.07 | schumaml | but some people like to apply a free license to all kinds of the docs |
| 21:08.34 | lh | schumaml: yeah, our legal team isn't going to go for that. most of our stuff is license CC 2.5 FWIW, we were fortunate to get 3.0 used |
| 21:09.04 | schumaml | and we have some activists who would like best if no non-free stuff would be anywhere near the project :) |
| 21:09.20 | lh | again with the never being able to please everyone. |
| 21:09.29 | lh | makes that her phrase of the day |
| 21:12.48 | schumaml | well, I'm ok with this. I would even appreciate if your legal team would pursue any violation without mercy - it's hard to argue for proper use of copy rights in this "nobody cares anyway" mass of the internet |
| 21:13.02 | Ivanovic | regarding the logo it is probably fine to just use it in a news post on our website when saying "we will try to get into SoC 2009", right? |
| 21:13.07 | Ivanovic | (just to be 100% sure) |
| 21:13.35 | danderson | lh: that is actually one of my favorite lines in monty python's life of Brian |
| 21:13.40 | kblin | yay, lh |
| 21:13.47 | brlcad | is happy to please the few that can be pleased, much less attempt to please everyone |
| 21:13.49 | danderson | the leper who complains that Jesus cured him and made him lose his only source of income |
| 21:14.02 | danderson | "There's no pleasing some people - That's just what Jesus said sir!" |
| 21:14.12 | araujo | drops some flowers petals on lh hair |
| 21:14.20 | schumaml | mumbles something about german courts, banners ads and commercial, and hides before lh bans him |
| 21:14.47 | lh | brlcad: exactamundo |
| 21:14.52 | lh | Ivanovic: yes this is fine |
| 21:15.06 | lh | schumaml: :) |
| 21:15.09 | lh | kblin: how are you my dear |
| 21:15.17 | lh | araujo: my dear friend, how are you? :) |
| 21:15.39 | araujo | lh, hi!!.. very well here, just ate lunch, and you? :) |
| 21:15.42 | lh | danderson: I <3 that line, too. And all the bouncing accompanying it, too. |
| 21:15.48 | Ivanovic | (and i won't write this stuff today since the "sugar water" was too tasty as i would be able to write some "readable" news article...) |
| 21:15.51 | lh | araujo: busy as all get out but life is darn good. :) |
| 21:16.04 | danderson | lh: indeed |
| 21:16.15 | araujo | lh, haha, glad to hear |
| 21:16.49 | araujo | or read ... :) |
| 21:16.50 | kblin | lh: working on my thesis, life is good :) |
| 21:17.09 | brlcad | lh: hypothetically if an org that previously participated 1) wanted to participate again, 2) was accepted back, but 3) wanted to only accept one or two students -- would that be a problem? |
| 21:17.26 | brlcad | or is the management overhead not worth it |
| 21:17.38 | brlcad | (for both sides) |
| 21:17.38 | danderson | brlcad: many orgs in the past have had only a few students |
| 21:17.54 | danderson | so unless massive change this year, I don't see a problem |
| 21:18.02 | lh | kblin: awesome |
| 21:18.09 | lh | brlcad: nope. |
| 21:18.27 | lh | brlcad: do it, it's actually a good thing considering we are funding fewer students this year. |
| 21:18.30 | lh | so woot! |
| 21:18.32 | kblin | brlcad: it'd be silly to accept more people than you have mentoring ressources |
| 21:18.44 | brlcad | thx, good to know |
| 21:18.45 | kblin | and of course what lh said |
| 21:18.59 | summatusmentis | !faq |
| 21:19.00 | socinfo | "faq" is http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html |
| 21:19.05 | Ivanovic | i think at wesnoth (*if* we get in) we will only go for 3 slots this year |
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| 21:19.28 | brlcad | kblin: sure, but this would be a case where there is plenty of resources .. just wanting to scope it *way* back to see how well things would work focusing on just a couple students |
| 21:19.29 | lh | kblin: how goeth the thesis |
| 21:19.33 | brlcad | hypothetically, of course |
| 21:19.40 | lh | Ivanovic: cool. |
| 21:19.49 | lh | brlcad: i would look forward to the results of that experiment. |
| 21:19.54 | kblin | lh: ask me again in a couple of days when the lab results are in |
| 21:19.56 | lh | you too Ivanovic |
| 21:20.00 | lh | kblin: you got it. |
| 21:20.05 | lh | goes back to actually being away and GSD |
| 21:20.18 | Ivanovic | yeah, we will try to get in and we will soon work on getting together all the info for the form to apply |
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| 21:20.52 | danderson | mkay, sod this, going home to work on radio automation software |
| 21:21.01 | Ivanovic | lh: good luck |
| 21:21.02 | kblin | I forgot what I wrote last year. I need to copy it down this year |
| 21:21.04 | Ivanovic | and cu soon |
| 21:21.19 | Ivanovic | kblin: we still have the stuff in our wiki since there we initially wrote the stuff |
| 21:21.19 | summatusmentis | kblin: doctoral thesis? |
| 21:21.19 | lh | danderson: have fun |
| 21:21.28 | lh | Ivanovic: so prepared! awesome. :) |
| 21:21.29 | Ivanovic | but we will have to adopt *lots* of stuff |
| 21:21.33 | lh | actually goes away now |
| 21:21.37 | brlcad | my thinking is that one of the hardest aspects is getting the students fully integrated and lavished with communication, attention, encouragement, testing, training, etc .. if the experience is that much richer, then how might that affect whether they "get sucked in" and participate outside of gsoc |
| 21:21.41 | Ivanovic | lh: of course we are prepared |
| 21:21.43 | danderson | lh: hey, how 'bout a SoC radio? |
| 21:21.52 | danderson | streaming free music, random interviews, etc. |
| 21:21.54 | Ivanovic | since copy&paste is a huge part of my general release procedure, too |
| 21:22.01 | danderson | tries to pimp his plaything of the week |
| 21:22.13 | Ivanovic | won't waste texts that are likely to be easily reusable with slight adjustments |
| 21:22.13 | kblin | summatusmentis: nope, masters' thesis |
| 21:22.14 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 21:22.22 | kblin | hmm... |
| 21:22.27 | summatusmentis | kblin: ah, still. Cool :) Where are you at school? |
| 21:22.38 | brlcad | Ivanovic: did you guys publish a summary from last year up somewhere? |
| 21:22.50 | Ivanovic | brlcad: i planned to write one |
| 21:22.56 | brlcad | still needs to do that too.. *sniff* |
| 21:22.58 | kblin | summatusmentis: University of Tübingen, Germany |
| 21:22.59 | Ivanovic | but sadly the last term was damn busy for me |
| 21:24.07 | summatusmentis | kblin: very cool :) |
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| 21:24.34 | Ivanovic | and now i am looking forward to at least one week where i will not go to the campus |
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| 21:25.48 | kblin | semester break? |
| 21:25.57 | Ivanovic | (that is i got to write some stuff for the report of our project group, but that is probably one ~2 or 3 pages, so it won't take too much time) |
| 21:26.01 | Ivanovic | kblin: yeah finally |
| 21:26.52 | Ivanovic | that is: from the project group we "just" have to finish the final report and hold a final presentation about the stuff we "somehow" did over the last year |
| 21:27.52 | kblin | oh well, tell me about busy.. working on a thesis hurt mu ohloh stats |
| 21:28.01 | Ivanovic | hehehe |
| 21:28.25 | Ivanovic | yeah, i just got three exams open and then got to find and start my final thesis... |
| 21:28.35 | Ivanovic | s/three/four |
| 21:29.52 | schumaml | wonders a bit about the RTEMS flyers in the logo downloads area |
| 21:32.16 | kblin | ah, perfect |
| 21:32.28 | kblin | I sent the list of questions per email |
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| 21:40.00 | schumaml | can someone please change the labels of the soc 2009 logos to a consistent state? |
| 21:40.33 | schumaml | and change the link pointing to them from the GsocLogos page to use the label(s) instead of a simple text search? |
| 21:41.35 | lh | schumaml: i think ellen isn't as used to using this system as i am, hang on and i'll fix |
| 21:41.48 | lh | schumaml: and all orgs are welcome to send a flyer to us that's branded for their org |
| 21:41.56 | schumaml | lh: I'm not blaming anyone |
| 21:42.03 | schumaml | I just want someone to fix it :) |
| 21:42.14 | schumaml | I did even search if this was fixable by anyone first |
| 21:43.23 | lh | schumaml: well this is stupid. you can't just search on labels, it's full text search on project hosting. oh joy. |
| 21:43.27 | lh | narfs a bit |
| 21:43.55 | schumaml | um - why not? |
| 21:44.12 | schumaml | label:logo label:2009 returns exactly one of them |
| 21:44.28 | schumaml | this is waht made me notice that the other is labeled logo2009 |
| 21:45.11 | schumaml | or can't label:foo be used in the url? |
| 21:45.24 | lh | schumaml: i dont know, never tried it. but in any case, it's fixed now. |
| 21:46.31 | schumaml | for the records, label:foo in the url works, too |
| 21:46.50 | lh | schumaml: fascinating. |
| 21:46.51 | lh | tries |
| 21:47.40 | schumaml | tries q=Bobby'); DROP table download; |
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| 21:48.18 | lh | schumaml: it doesn't work via the search box in search downloads. bleh. |
| 21:48.40 | schumaml | um |
| 21:48.56 | schumaml | this is where I tried it first, actually... |
| 21:50.35 | schumaml | label:english -> works |
| 21:51.24 | schumaml | for testing it would be nice to have a flyer that is labeled "english" but does not contain the term "english" in its summary |
| 21:51.29 | lh | schumaml: where are you searching? |
| 21:51.50 | lh | schumaml: i'm here |
| 21:51.51 | lh | http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/downloads/list |
| 21:51.59 | schumaml | yep |
| 21:52.24 | lh | searching for label: 2009 yields the following message for me: |
| 21:52.31 | lh | This project currently has no downloads. |
| 21:52.31 | lh | You may want to create a new download. |
| 21:52.32 | schumaml | Search [foo] for [label:bar] |
| 21:52.45 | schumaml | lh: no blanks |
| 21:53.10 | lh | schumaml: ah clarity. well that's non-intuitive for me. |
| 21:53.23 | lh | should see if we ever actually added help documentation for project hosting |
| 21:53.30 | lh | schumaml: thanks! |
| 21:54.01 | schumaml | lh: perfectly intuitive for me, tags should allow blanks |
| 21:54.21 | schumaml | one could argue that trimming them would be nice |
| 21:56.12 | lh | schumaml: i think tags should allow blanks too. why it doesn't i dont think is intuitive. fortunately, they pay me to talk to the lawyers and not to write software. :) |
| 21:57.28 | schumaml | my allow wasn't exactly a "should handle them as is not there" |
| 21:57.33 | schumaml | if |
| 21:57.48 | lh | actually goes away now to go to a meeting |
| 21:57.48 | lh | bbl |
| 21:58.21 | brlcad | lh: fwiw, i'm in the middle of writing a document that probably belongs on the wiki but I'm hoping someone else will transcribe later |
| 21:58.37 | brlcad | best practices of sorts |
| 21:58.53 | lh | brlcad: i'll make sure it gets on the wiki if you send me the text |
| 21:58.57 | lh | actually goes to meeting now |
| 21:59.08 | brlcad | a fantastic idea that came out of the summit .. damn i wish i could remember his name |
| 21:59.20 | brlcad | older gent that worked in public city planning |
| 21:59.37 | brlcad | if anyone recalls, please do say or pm so I can credit him and make sure he gets a copy |
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| 22:50.13 | xkenneth | So where do we start looking for mentors? |
| 22:50.14 | xkenneth | ;) |
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| 22:51.22 | Landon | no orgs apply until march |
| 22:51.29 | Landon | :P |
| 22:52.26 | brlcad | xkenneth: "looking for mentors"? |
| 22:52.36 | brlcad | from within your community I'd hope |
| 22:53.04 | xkenneth | brlcad: Well unfortunately I don't have a community. I believe I'll be submitting the project directly to google this year. |
| 22:53.40 | Landon | any professors at your university with a specialty in that type of project? |
| 22:53.58 | brlcad | xkenneth: ah, good luck then |
| 22:54.07 | Landon | would start there |
| 22:55.06 | Ivanovic | xkenneth: chances for "really small projects" to get in are not toooooo good |
| 22:55.29 | Ivanovic | that is: from what was said so far "well known and grown" projects with some community behind them are prefered |
| 22:55.58 | Ivanovic | beside this is if not too good (at least in my opinion) to have mentors who are not really associated to the project |
| 22:56.27 | Ivanovic | this makes things rather difficult since how could they help someone with the task in this specific project without much knowledge themselves? |
| 22:58.09 | brlcad | Ivanovic: I believe he means the "google org projects" that usually garner a handful of students each year, independent study sorts |
| 22:58.18 | Ivanovic | xkenneth: if your project is rather small it *might* be a good idea to somehow group with a "known" project or stuff like this |
| 22:58.25 | Ivanovic | brlcad: ah, okay |
| 22:59.10 | Ivanovic | brlcad: those projects somehow have the "hmm, that is really special" feeling to me |
| 22:59.16 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 22:59.24 | brlcad | they are even harder than getting accepted under an org, looks like they accepted three last year |
| 22:59.31 | brlcad | http://code.google.com/soc/2008/google/about.html |
| 23:02.31 | Ivanovic | though in general i'd say it is *really* difficult for some smaller/new project to be accepted in SoC, no matter which way to take |
| 23:02.49 | Ivanovic | anyway, time for me to head off to bed, n8 |
| 23:06.09 | brlcad | yeah, it is |
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| 23:06.41 | brlcad | xkenneth: the advice still holds -- if you can find an org that'd be interested, your chances would be *greatly* increased over trying to get a slot from google |
| 23:07.02 | lh | scorche: updated presentations for 2009 now available |
| 23:07.04 | lh | dberkholz: ping |
| 23:07.08 | brlcad | unless you've already talked to someone |
| 23:07.21 | lh | scorche: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/ProgramPresentations |
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| 23:10.45 | xkenneth | Ivanovic: I'll contact the OpenLaszlo guys, my project is rather closely tied with their efforts. |
| 23:10.48 | *** topic/#gsoc by lh -> Spread the Word About GSoC 2009 - Flyers & Program Presentations Updated for This Year, see the wiki - Upload your screen casts, etc. to our YouTube Channel (details on mentors and students list) - Publicize Your Project! More at http://www.tinyurl.com/gsoc2008press - Make Summer of Code Better, Contribute to Melange: http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GettingStarted - This channel is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
| 23:11.00 | xkenneth | brlcad: Thanks. |
| 23:12.39 | Landon | :o |
| 23:12.44 | Landon | I'm#2 talkre in the channel |
| 23:12.49 | Landon | #2 talker* |
| 23:13.36 | lh | dberkholz: ping |
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| 23:19.03 | dberkholz | lh: ah, hi there. didn't see you by 5 after so i did some other things |
| 23:19.43 | brlcad | xkenneth: is OpenLaszlo applying? you might be out of luck if they don't.. |
| 23:19.47 | lh | dberkholz: sorry, and i have to leave the office at 3:30 PM sharp |
| 23:20.02 | lh | dberkholz: maybe we could chat sometime this weekend or on monday? thoughts? |
| 23:20.17 | brlcad | lh: you don't get monday off? |
| 23:20.19 | dberkholz | lh: hmm. yeah, i was about to ask the same, so let's do that. |
| 23:20.35 | lh | brlcad: google holiday yes. gsoc never sleeps. :) |
| 23:20.36 | dberkholz | lh: or feel free to just drop an email if setting up specific times is too much of a hassle |
| 23:20.40 | lh | dberkholz: when do i call you? |
| 23:20.41 | brlcad | lh: ah, fair enough |
| 23:20.46 | lh | nah, i like specific times, otherwise i don't gsd |
| 23:20.50 | lh | brlcad: :) |
| 23:21.04 | dberkholz | lh: how about 11am monday? |
| 23:22.00 | lh | dberkholz: done. email the number to reach you on |
| 23:23.29 | dberkholz | lh: done |
| 23:25.58 | lh | dberkholz: thank you, speak soon |
| 23:32.17 | lh | takes off for afternoon errandy things |
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