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| 05:10.19 | summatusmentis | Landon: ping |
| 05:12.27 | Landon | summatusmentis: pong |
| 05:12.39 | summatusmentis | you're using Google Apps for your domain right? |
| 05:13.34 | Landon | nope |
| 05:13.49 | Landon | I like to have handson |
| 05:13.55 | summatusmentis | oh... somehow I thought you had gmail that wasn't gmail |
| 05:14.17 | Landon | I use fetchmail to 'forward' my gmail accounts to my @lfowles.org one? |
| 05:14.18 | Landon | :P |
| 05:14.51 | summatusmentis | oh. so what do you use for a mail client then? |
| 05:16.33 | Landon | server or client? |
| 05:16.49 | summatusmentis | client |
| 05:16.56 | Landon | I use mutt as my client :P |
| 05:16.58 | Landon | and squirrelmail |
| 05:17.01 | summatusmentis | ah |
| 05:17.09 | Landon | although I have imap set up if I ever have the fancy for it |
| 05:17.34 | summatusmentis | the reason I ask is I'm still contemplating a VPS, but I can't get away from gmail's interface, I don't think |
| 05:17.47 | summatusmentis | maybe I could get used to something cli based |
| 05:17.52 | summatusmentis | but gmail is sooo pretty |
| 05:17.58 | Landon | hm |
| 05:18.04 | Landon | can you access pop/imap from gmail? |
| 05:18.16 | summatusmentis | you can pop anything to gmail, yes |
| 05:18.31 | summatusmentis | that is, gmail can be a pop client |
| 05:18.31 | Landon | then just set up pop and use gmails interface :) |
| 05:19.06 | summatusmentis | heh |
| 05:19.13 | summatusmentis | I want gmails interface, hosted on my own :) |
| 05:19.15 | summatusmentis | :-P |
| 05:19.39 | summatusmentis | and afaik, you can't get local hosting without google apps business or something |
| 05:19.44 | Landon | ah |
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| 05:20.14 | summatusmentis | may just do something local, I don't know |
| 05:20.22 | Landon | eek |
| 05:20.29 | Landon | phone interview sorta thing on wednesday |
| 05:20.31 | summatusmentis | I need to figure out if i can justify $10/$20 per mo. |
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| 05:27.51 | antarus | summatusmentis: you don't get local hosting with gmail |
| 05:28.02 | antarus | summatusmentis: gmail has smarthosting for premium customers |
| 05:28.14 | summatusmentis | oh, so not even local if you pay for it |
| 05:28.32 | summatusmentis | sadday |
| 05:28.36 | antarus | smarthosting just means we route outbound mail through specified machines |
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| 05:28.48 | antarus | You would not want to run gmail locally; trust me ;p |
| 05:29.04 | summatusmentis | haha, no, probably not, I just want gmail's interface locally |
| 05:29.16 | summatusmentis | without giving google my email life |
| 05:29.20 | Landon | oh |
| 05:29.22 | Landon | not gmail |
| 05:29.29 | Landon | but if you want ajaxy goodness |
| 05:29.34 | Landon | look into roundcube |
| 05:30.03 | summatusmentis | but... but.. gmail |
| 05:30.11 | summatusmentis | :-D |
| 05:30.11 | Landon | ;p |
| 05:32.58 | summatusmentis | hmm |
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| 05:34.01 | antarus | summatusmentis: see now you have me curious |
| 05:34.15 | summatusmentis | ultimately, I want cloud computing w/ web2.0, without the nebulous cloud part |
| 05:34.27 | summatusmentis | I want to control my cloud in every way :) |
| 05:34.31 | summatusmentis | antarus: curious in what way? |
| 05:34.40 | dberkholz | antarus: gonna have some soc08 status next week? |
| 05:35.26 | antarus | next week or this week? |
| 05:37.42 | antarus | summatusmentis: as to how much ram my gmail takes (if I was to run it locally, for example) |
| 05:38.07 | summatusmentis | hah |
| 05:38.17 | Landon | btw |
| 05:38.22 | Landon | if anyone has an archiving solution for Maildir |
| 05:38.26 | Landon | would <3 to hear it |
| 05:38.26 | antarus | I'll summarize my findings with "you would need a really big VPS" |
| 05:38.30 | dberkholz | antarus: this week would be great, next would be fine |
| 05:38.49 | antarus | it should be vague enough to get by ;) |
| 05:39.08 | Landon | I cant find anything that does what I want (namely archiving a largel ist off maildirs easily generated with find and sending them to other maildirs, not tarballing them) |
| 05:39.15 | dberkholz | antarus: basically i'm thinking enough time to get our act together before the org app is due |
| 05:39.16 | summatusmentis | antarus: haha, can't afford a really big VPS :) |
| 05:40.25 | Landon | colocate! |
| 05:40.26 | Landon | :P |
| 05:40.46 | Landon | hm |
| 05:40.56 | Landon | I don't know what I'd do if I had to cut off my VPS |
| 05:40.59 | Landon | does so much for me :\ |
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| 05:42.01 | summatusmentis | might buy 2 cheap VPSs through a company who's owner he knows |
| 05:42.20 | summatusmentis | gives me public AFS space, server admin, web hosting, etc. experience |
| 05:42.32 | summatusmentis | and I'm not stuck playing in VMs on my laptop |
| 05:45.53 | Landon | why 2? |
| 05:46.42 | summatusmentis | AFS resaons, one that acts as the database server, and one that is just a volume server |
| 05:46.54 | Landon | ah |
| 05:48.08 | summatusmentis | gives me a reason to learn the admin side of it |
| 05:53.11 | antarus | dberkholz: do we need to get our act together? |
| 05:54.34 | Landon | summatusmentis: its really nice to have such control... |
| 05:54.44 | summatusmentis | Landon: I could see that |
| 05:54.44 | Landon | but then when mail stops working it's you that fscked up and has to fix it |
| 05:54.45 | Landon | :P |
| 05:54.49 | summatusmentis | heh |
| 05:54.57 | Landon | postfix can be a pita at times |
| 05:55.07 | Landon | I suggest getting IMAP+smtp + all that good stuff set up at the beginning |
| 05:55.13 | Landon | so you don't break everything when you screw around with it later |
| 05:55.14 | Landon | >.> |
| 05:55.21 | Landon | <-- case in point |
| 05:56.24 | summatusmentis | I'm not sure I could give up gmail :) |
| 05:56.43 | dberkholz | antarus: i think it would make our app more powerful if we could describe what happened with last year's projects & people. integration of code, new devs joining or training, etc. |
| 05:57.25 | dberkholz | antarus: and i think figuring out the status in enough time to take action on anything that should change would be helpful |
| 05:57.27 | summatusmentis | what're you guys applying for? a mentoring org spot? |
| 05:57.28 | antarus | I think powerful was a poor word choice ;) |
| 05:58.06 | dberkholz | summatusmentis: yep |
| 05:58.15 | summatusmentis | what org? |
| 05:58.24 | dberkholz | summatusmentis: gentoo linux |
| 05:58.31 | summatusmentis | oh, very cool |
| 05:58.46 | dberkholz | antarus: insert your word of preference. =) |
| 05:59.32 | antarus | convincing perhaps |
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| 06:11.32 | Landon | 80s++ |
| 06:11.58 | Landon | was watching amazing Stories yesterday :P |
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| 17:09.48 | r0bby | I should have gotten more students interested :) |
| 17:11.24 | ajuonline | r0bby: for? |
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| 17:13.25 | Landon | any javascript gurus (or noobers) want to take a peek at some code I'm trying to work on? |
| 17:13.31 | Landon | apparently doesn't have the intricacies of DOM worked out |
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| 17:16.59 | amit8-88 | !faq |
| 17:17.00 | socinfo | "faq" is http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html |
| 17:23.02 | r0bby | s/should/might |
| 17:23.56 | r0bby | :) |
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| 18:55.29 | kendrick | Good morning! Congratulations on yet another day. |
| 18:55.44 | danderson | yaaay. |
| 18:56.30 | kendrick | makes random The Prisoner reference :) |
| 18:59.58 | ajuonline | wonders who is the prisoner here |
| 19:06.19 | kendrick | heh, my 2yo son recognizes patrick mcgoohan |
| 19:06.20 | kendrick | "six! six!" :) |
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| 20:47.30 | TheLorax | is the application opening date known yet for this year? |
| 20:48.01 | Mordante | !faq |
| 20:48.01 | socinfo | "faq" is http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html |
| 20:48.02 | Ivanovic | IIRC it is listed in the faq |
| 20:48.12 | Ivanovic | link: cf above |
| 20:48.22 | TheLorax | thanks |
| 20:48.26 | Mordante | I also assume it's in the faq ;-) |
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| 21:13.48 | spectie | hmm |
| 21:13.58 | spectie | in the 2008 questions for mentoring organisations there was a question |
| 21:14.01 | spectie | Who will your organisation administrator be? Please include Google Account information. |
| 21:14.08 | spectie | this year it doesn't appear in the list |
| 21:14.10 | spectie | but the question |
| 21:14.15 | spectie | Who will be your backup organisation administrator? Please include Google Account information. |
| 21:14.16 | spectie | does |
| 21:14.25 | spectie | has this been left out accidentally ? |
| 21:15.51 | Ivanovic | spectie: the one submitting the form is automatically admin anyway |
| 21:15.56 | spectie | ok |
| 21:16.09 | spectie | so it was considered redundant |
| 21:16.20 | spectie | removed |
| 21:16.23 | Ivanovic | probably |
| 21:16.37 | Ivanovic | at least i was automatically admin for wesnoth last year, just as it was meant to be anyway |
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