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| 00:57.21 | dmind | hi |
| 00:58.39 | MatthewWilkes | hi dmind |
| 01:03.35 | MatthewWilkes | .oO(Wow, the HURD really is amazing, I had no idea it was this far along) |
| 01:08.31 | dmind | academics who are here? |
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| 01:46.07 | dmind | Anyone present project to Google? |
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| 01:52.45 | abstortedminds1 | hi :) |
| 01:56.17 | dmind | abstortedminds1: :) |
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| 02:09.50 | r0bby | hai |
| 02:10.02 | dmind | r0bby: hi |
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| 06:24.59 | r0bby | /geek/win 44 |
| 06:25.00 | r0bby | er |
| 06:25.14 | Landon | if you have 44 windows open |
| 06:25.19 | Landon | theres a problem |
| 06:25.35 | r0bby | I have over 400. |
| 06:25.46 | Landon | thats kind of sad :P |
| 06:25.48 | r0bby | some of which are unused |
| 06:25.50 | Landon | even if you dont use them all |
| 06:25.51 | r0bby | im too lazy to close them |
| 06:25.57 | Landon | mmhmm |
| 06:26.29 | antarus | was like that once... |
| 06:26.35 | r0bby | plus I have it set up |
| 06:26.38 | r0bby | where i can find shit |
| 06:26.48 | r0bby | channels i use are v isible to me :) |
| 06:26.48 | Landon | right... |
| 06:26.52 | Landon | do some spring cleaning :P |
| 06:27.15 | r0bby | i justy recently set up auto connection to freenode/efnet |
| 06:27.16 | r0bby | =) |
| 06:27.37 | Landon | doesnt mean you cant close windows you dont use |
| 06:27.53 | r0bby | it moves stuff around |
| 06:28.16 | Landon | if you get rid of a couple hundred windows |
| 06:28.18 | Landon | itd be worth it |
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| 08:06.40 | ajuonline | waves at all the sleepy fellas |
| 08:07.14 | thebolt | sleepy? been awake along time.. doing boring stuff like laundry :/ |
| 08:07.29 | ajuonline | ah what T? |
| 08:07.33 | ajuonline | TZ* |
| 08:09.55 | thebolt | utc+8 :) |
| 08:10.24 | ajuonline | ah alright :D /me is utc+5.5 |
| 08:11.43 | thebolt | 5.5? where is that? |
| 08:11.48 | sid0 | india |
| 08:11.59 | thebolt | should be india or russia or so |
| 08:12.11 | ajuonline | thebolt: what about you? |
| 08:12.42 | thebolt | Taiwan |
| 08:12.48 | ajuonline | ah great :) |
| 08:12.56 | ajuonline | thebolt: are you an Openmoko guy . by any chance? |
| 08:13.04 | thebolt | no, i am not |
| 08:13.18 | thebolt | (and taiwan is just temporary.. for another 4ish months, then i go back home) |
| 08:14.04 | ajuonline | home is ? |
| 08:14.44 | thebolt | or i should say back to my former home.. home is where i sleep, have my stuff and mentally isat the moment ;) |
| 08:14.52 | thebolt | but i come from (and will go back to) sweden |
| 08:14.54 | ajuonline | ha ha ok |
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| 08:17.56 | thebolt | but for now halfa dorm room with a small bed, a desk and a chair, on northern taiwan is what i call home ;) |
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| 08:47.56 | ibuffy | what are the guidelines for a good application? how long does it have to be? how much detail? how many words is too much, i was thinking more than 6000 would be too much. |
| 08:48.09 | ibuffy | are graphics allowed? |
| 08:48.48 | antarus | in the past it was plain text only |
| 08:48.52 | antarus | not sure if that changse with new webapp |
| 08:49.16 | thebolt | i'd say not more than a single page.. possibly two.. if you cannot convey your application in that length you probably want to rethink ;-) |
| 08:50.51 | ibuffy | bah, 2 is too short |
| 08:50.55 | ibuffy | i was thinking about 10 |
| 08:51.02 | antarus | umm |
| 08:51.11 | antarus | if your app is 1 page and you submit it to my org changes are you will not pas |
| 08:51.24 | antarus | but thats project app, not org app |
| 08:51.31 | antarus | please specify which app you are referring to ;) |
| 08:51.35 | antarus | chances* |
| 08:51.57 | ibuffy | 1 page of code? not following you |
| 08:52.21 | ibuffy | i am thinking that about a 10 page application is right, no? |
| 08:52.37 | ibuffy | with no more than 6k words |
| 08:52.50 | ajuonline | i would never want to read somethign 10 page long :D |
| 08:52.52 | thebolt | 1 page of written text.. i wouldn't read a 10 page application to our project but ask the student to rewrite it in a more concise way.. |
| 08:53.06 | ibuffy | with graphics, 10 page should be appropriate |
| 08:53.11 | ibuffy | without... about 4-5 |
| 08:53.28 | ibuffy | that's what i'm guessing |
| 08:53.36 | thebolt | i'd say that is still too much.. and as said, at least earlier you could only give plain text in the web app |
| 08:53.37 | ibuffy | and which is why i'm asking because i'm not sure |
| 08:54.06 | antarus | thebolt: the more details around timeline and deliverables the easier it is to score ;) |
| 08:54.16 | antarus | thats why I prefer more information, not less |
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| 08:54.25 | antarus | I don't expect 10 pages of just block text |
| 08:54.43 | ibuffy | deliverables being code that is already written? |
| 08:54.56 | antarus | ibuffy: no, code you plan to write and deliver by $DATE |
| 08:55.04 | thebolt | antarus: yes.. but i don't think 10 (or even 5) pages of text (in the format the webapp used to be) is appropriate |
| 08:55.05 | antarus | so when I go to review your stuff to see if you should get paid |
| 08:55.12 | antarus | I have stuff to look at |
| 08:55.28 | antarus | did you delivery X code by Y date (Y/N?) if no, why not? ...etc... |
| 08:55.50 | ibuffy | i see |
| 08:55.54 | ibuffy | thanks antarus |
| 08:56.06 | antarus | thebolt: lots of whitespace ;) |
| 08:56.18 | ibuffy | and if it is plain txt only, i can link to my graphical version :) |
| 08:56.19 | thebolt | antarus: hehe yea :P |
| 08:56.29 | ibuffy | via the student signup page |
| 08:56.31 | antarus | I wouldn't expect more than 1 - 2 pages of 'this is a detailed description of what I am attempting' |
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| 08:57.46 | antarus | but otherwise I'm nitpicky about stuff. Including things like a "Non-Goals: This is what I'm explicitly not attempting..." is often useful. Explaining some background on why your project is useful is a good idea. "bar is currently hard, I want to write baz to make bar easier." |
| 08:57.50 | antarus | etc... |
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| 09:08.21 | c_d | #gsoc |
| 09:08.57 | c_d | woah!! lotsa ppl already... |
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| 09:14.10 | c_d | this is my first time ever on an IRC channel... be nice... :) so on the left side i see green colored circles and names beside them , on the top i see a few names who have light green circles and rest of the people have dark green circles...so are all of you online right now? and whats with the shades of green? are the light green ppl supposed to be mods or something? |
| 09:15.20 | Landon | yup |
| 09:15.23 | Landon | you got it |
| 09:15.38 | Landon | doesnt mean we're all online though |
| 09:15.45 | Landon | just social standing in the channel sorta thing |
| 09:15.52 | Landon | you're using chatzilla? |
| 09:15.58 | Landon | I think idle people are in italic |
| 09:16.03 | Landon | but thats not the best measure of ileness |
| 09:16.30 | c_d | yeah...how'd you know? do you know my ip too? |
| 09:16.49 | c_d | not post my ip if you know!! |
| 09:16.54 | c_d | dont! |
| 09:17.05 | thebolt | c_d: everyone kn ows your ip |
| 09:17.23 | thebolt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:18.33 | Landon | same here |
| 09:18.57 | Landon | you can request a mask from server admins, but really your ip is public knowledge ;] |
| 09:19.03 | Landon | just keep it secure |
| 09:19.12 | c_d | lol i see |
| 09:20.12 | thebolt | and your client just told usthat you run chatzilla 0.9.84, firefox 3.0.5 ;-) |
| 09:22.26 | c_d | how come my whois gives something like chatzill@myip whereas yours or landons gives "thebolt@crystalspace3d.org" |
| 09:22.27 | c_d | ? |
| 09:23.41 | Landon | I have a mask |
| 09:23.48 | Landon | he has a reverse IP |
| 09:24.07 | Landon | wonders how to get that set up for his host |
| 09:24.19 | Landon | hm, need to talk to my hosting company sometime.. |
| 09:24.28 | c_d | reverse IP? |
| 09:24.58 | Landon | c_d: yeah, when someone connects freenode cheks to see if there's sort of a domain name for the IP address |
| 09:25.03 | Landon | like DNS but in reverse |
| 09:25.08 | Landon | hence reverse DNS |
| 09:25.18 | Landon | oh whoops, I said reverse IP |
| 09:25.20 | Landon | my bad |
| 09:25.40 | c_d | so you have to buy an ID or something? |
| 09:25.51 | c_d | for the IP address? |
| 09:27.48 | thebolt | well, its up to the ISP to set it up |
| 09:28.02 | thebolt | and most consumer ISPs won't let you choose, they have fixed stuff |
| 09:28.15 | thebolt | like 75-164-117-121.tcsn.qwest.net (a recent join here;) |
| 09:28.34 | thebolt | in my case.. i run irc via a shell account on the machine that actually is crystalspace3d.org ;) |
| 09:29.24 | c_d | hmm...so...thats out of question for the time being...reverse DNS that is... |
| 09:29.28 | c_d | so... |
| 09:29.43 | c_d | how do i put up a request to mask my IP |
| 09:29.45 | c_d | ? |
| 09:29.56 | c_d | to the channel mods? |
| 09:35.56 | thebolt | http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks |
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| 09:45.23 | easwar | c_d, not yet,join #freenode and ask an admin for a cloak |
| 09:45.30 | easwar | we still see your IP |
| 09:45.40 | easwar | *everyone does |
| 09:45.59 | c_d | i know...i havnt done all the steps yet |
| 09:46.04 | c_d | brb |
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| 09:54.14 | easwar | oops, be_right_back is not back yet |
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| 10:04.45 | c_d | whats xchat? |
| 10:05.45 | Gurpartap | An IRC Client. |
| 10:06.29 | c_d | ok |
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| 10:09.19 | c_d | err..mr.project leader...i'd like my generic clock turned on please |
| 10:09.22 | c_d | ... |
| 10:09.34 | c_d | "/stats p |
| 10:09.52 | c_d | shows 0 staff members... |
| 10:10.30 | c_d | i mean...project leader...i'd like my project clock turned on plz |
| 10:10.49 | Gurpartap | what clock? |
| 10:11.05 | Landon | cloak maybe? |
| 10:11.05 | c_d | i meant cloak |
| 10:11.09 | c_d | soory |
| 10:11.10 | c_d | sorry |
| 10:11.19 | c_d | :D |
| 10:11.27 | Landon | no project leaders in hre ;) |
| 10:11.39 | c_d | no staffers either... |
| 10:11.43 | c_d | what then? |
| 10:11.44 | Landon | unless lh decides to grant us gsoc student cloaks or something :P heh |
| 10:11.48 | Landon | just wait around |
| 10:12.00 | Landon | its not that important to mask your ip |
| 10:12.02 | ChipX86 | if you need staffers, you may want to ask in #freenode too |
| 10:12.04 | Landon | aesthetics mostly |
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| 11:06.14 | easwar | where's lh these days? |
| 11:08.14 | lut4rp | calls lh |
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| 11:08.40 | lut4rp | easwar: lh says she's making sandwiches and can't come. |
| 11:08.55 | easwar | lol lu_zero |
| 11:09.00 | easwar | oops |
| 11:09.04 | easwar | lol lut4rp |
| 11:09.20 | easwar | lut4rp, you attempting GSoC 09? |
| 11:09.29 | lut4rp | easwar: yes. |
| 11:09.40 | easwar | ok,project? |
| 11:09.44 | lut4rp | dunno. |
| 11:09.52 | lut4rp | something in python or php |
| 11:09.56 | easwar | lut4rp, hmm |
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| 11:10.05 | lut4rp | or JS |
| 11:10.18 | easwar | there was this page which listed projects by language |
| 11:10.26 | easwar | !socinfo |
| 11:10.26 | socinfo | "socinfo" is always right |
| 11:10.36 | easwar | !info |
| 11:10.37 | socinfo | Error: access denied (factoids.info). |
| 11:10.43 | lut4rp | easwar: http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm |
| 11:10.49 | easwar | lut4rp, exactly |
| 11:11.04 | easwar | didn't find something there,which interests you? |
| 11:11.14 | lut4rp | easwar: you mean last time? |
| 11:11.17 | lut4rp | or this time? |
| 11:11.45 | easwar | lut4rp, last time,IIRC,this time,projects have just started putting in applications |
| 11:11.50 | easwar | checks timeline |
| 11:11.58 | lut4rp | easwar: not yet. |
| 11:12.04 | lut4rp | march 4th IIRC |
| 11:12.22 | lut4rp | yeah, I did check this last time, and gave in one application to Drupal |
| 11:12.31 | lut4rp | but bleh, didn't get through :/ |
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| 11:13.00 | easwar | lut4rp, March 9 |
| 11:13.10 | lut4rp | hmm |
| 11:13.37 | easwar | !timeline |
| 11:13.38 | socinfo | "timeline" is over, wait till next year. |
| 11:13.52 | easwar | !socinfo sucks |
| 11:13.52 | socinfo | Error: "socinfo" is not a valid command. |
| 11:13.55 | easwar | :P |
| 11:14.23 | easwar | lut4rp, ##gsoc-india |
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| 12:24.27 | vks | hello everyone!! |
| 12:25.00 | vks | did ny 1 participate in any grid related projected last gsoc? |
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| 14:54.36 | tushar_hailstone | meindian523 what are the points to be kept in mind before applying on GSOC for an inexperienced student? |
| 14:55.00 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, wrong person to ask,I'm just as inexperienced |
| 14:55.03 | meindian523 | :P |
| 14:55.20 | tushar_hailstone | So what are you planning to do meindian? |
| 14:55.46 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, learn my Python,learn my SVN,and apply to my target project |
| 14:55.50 | meindian523 | and hope for the best |
| 14:56.01 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, see Help for students |
| 14:56.06 | meindian523 | there's this page somewhere |
| 14:56.35 | tushar_hailstone | meindian523 what are the possibilities for a person knowing C,C++ ? |
| 14:57.16 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, many |
| 14:57.37 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, check http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm |
| 14:57.49 | meindian523 | you will find projects which use different languages |
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| 14:58.32 | tushar_hailstone | I mean how to approach the organisation meindian523 |
| 14:58.42 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, mind,that is last year's org list |
| 14:58.54 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, join the developers mailing list |
| 14:59.02 | tushar_hailstone | And then? |
| 14:59.03 | meindian523 | and hang out at their channel |
| 14:59.09 | ajuonline | tushar_hailstone: you should be really interested in the project and willing to contribute long term :) |
| 14:59.12 | meindian523 | contribute patches |
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| 14:59.19 | meindian523 | ajuonline, you bot |
| 14:59.28 | meindian523 | :P |
| 14:59.46 | tushar_hailstone | What if I am inexperienced in things like patches? |
| 15:00.50 | ajuonline | tushar_hailstone: find a projec that you like :) |
| 15:01.07 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, ask for help |
| 15:01.26 | meindian523 | is inexperienced with anything to do with real-life programming too |
| 15:01.32 | tushar_hailstone | Asking help in what sense meindian523? |
| 15:01.50 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, ask them to check your code |
| 15:02.11 | meindian523 | try it out 10 times on your own box before you ask them,though |
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| 15:02.17 | meindian523 | them=the developers |
| 15:02.35 | tushar_hailstone | What are the projects that you are pursuing? |
| 15:02.45 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, GNOME |
| 15:02.52 | meindian523 | to be precise Rhythmbox |
| 15:03.06 | tushar_hailstone | You an Engineering student? |
| 15:04.35 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, ye |
| 15:04.38 | meindian523 | *yes |
| 15:04.56 | tushar_hailstone | Final year, meindian523? |
| 15:05.25 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, nope,third year |
| 15:06.21 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, yourself? |
| 15:06.48 | tushar_hailstone | I am a second year student, meindian523 |
| 15:07.14 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, where? |
| 15:07.25 | ajuonline | praksh|afk: pyNem tushar_hailstone you should hang around on ##gsoc-india as well :P |
| 15:07.35 | tushar_hailstone | N.I.T. Durgapur, India, you? |
| 15:07.52 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, Univ of Bombay |
| 15:08.16 | tushar_hailstone | Which College, even I am from Thane? |
| 15:09.06 | tushar_hailstone | meindian523? |
| 15:09.07 | kblin | afernoon folks |
| 15:09.13 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, RAIT,Nerul,New Bombay |
| 15:09.23 | meindian523 | afternoon kblin |
| 15:09.50 | meindian523 | does after<Tab>.......oops,afternoon kb<Tab> |
| 15:09.56 | tushar_hailstone | afternoon kblin |
| 15:10.36 | tushar_hailstone | meindian523 have you participated last year? |
| 15:10.50 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, nope,first GSoC for me too |
| 15:12.28 | tushar_hailstone | And how long have you been pursuing this project meindian523? |
| 15:12.41 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, this project? |
| 15:12.47 | meindian523 | how do you mean? |
| 15:13.01 | tushar_hailstone | Yes the Rythmbox one meindian523? |
| 15:13.26 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, spoke about an idea I had |
| 15:13.37 | meindian523 | about 3 months now |
| 15:13.49 | meindian523 | haven't contributed anything in code though |
| 15:13.58 | meindian523 | don't know enough to code |
| 15:15.35 | tushar_hailstone | Then how are you contributing, meindian523? |
| 15:16.17 | meindian523 | tushar_hailstone, am not,not presently |
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| 15:44.19 | ajuonline | !timeline |
| 15:44.19 | socinfo | "timeline" is over, wait till next year. |
| 15:44.24 | ajuonline | scorche|sh: ^ |
| 15:44.31 | ajuonline | :D |
| 15:44.39 | meindian523 | ajuonline, you bot |
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| 16:10.32 | easwar | is back (gone 00:00:10) |
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| 17:02.54 | tushar_hailstone | Anybody interested in gedit?? |
| 17:03.14 | easwar | tushar_hailstone, as in? |
| 17:03.20 | easwar | no lh yet |
| 17:03.56 | tushar_hailstone | As in working on a new idea? |
| 17:05.17 | revx | anyone know what sorts of C++ projects are linning up? |
| 17:05.22 | easwar | tushar_hailstone, you would do better to explain your idea to the devs |
| 17:05.26 | scorche|sh | lh is probably still sleeping |
| 17:05.27 | easwar | of gedit |
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| 18:10.59 | c_d | the staff people are saying to ask again in 2weeks |
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| 19:03.52 | dmind | hi everybody :) |
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| 19:04.45 | l3ftm1n0r | hi i need help in getting ready to register for this years gsoc |
| 19:06.38 | ajuonline | l3ftm1n0r: you just need to type !faq |
| 19:06.46 | l3ftm1n0r | !faq |
| 19:06.46 | socinfo | "faq" is http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html |
| 19:09.09 | l3ftm1n0r | how do i find out which mentoring orgs will be there this time |
| 19:09.21 | Ivanovic | l3ftm1n0r: you wait till the list is announced |
| 19:09.29 | Ivanovic | so far it is not decided who will be in and who not |
| 19:09.45 | Ivanovic | it is even not possible for orgs to submit their project to gsoc |
| 19:09.52 | l3ftm1n0r | but then how will i know what to study that may help me decide what kind of project to take up |
| 19:10.14 | ajuonline | l3ftm1n0r: you need to check the timeline. and be patient. |
| 19:10.23 | l3ftm1n0r | alrite |
| 19:10.29 | ajuonline | l3ftm1n0r: open source doesnt depend on Google Summer of Code. |
| 19:10.42 | ajuonline | l3ftm1n0r: look up an interesting project and start working on it. :) |
| 19:10.54 | l3ftm1n0r | yea |
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| 20:09.06 | getxsick | hi! |
| 20:09.21 | getxsick | where can i download projects released during last gsoc? |
| 20:14.04 | gpolo | getxsick: the same place you uploaded yours |
| 20:14.09 | gpolo | just change the organization's name |
| 20:15.22 | getxsick | gpolo: that i asking, about my package cause i couldn't find it |
| 20:15.33 | getxsick | but i've already done :) |
| 20:16.34 | ajuonline | getxsick: goto code.google.com/soc/2008/ click on your organisations name. |
| 20:16.39 | ajuonline | on that page you will find the link. |
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| 20:21.12 | ajuonline | sleeps |
| 20:21.39 | ajuonline | deciding between work or higher studies is becoming confusing :P |
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| 22:06.15 | spectie | evenin' all |
| 22:06.40 | Kamots | hello |
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