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| 00:59.29 | YordanMadzhunkov | :) |
| 00:59.41 | YordanMadzhunkov | long time since I used irc :) |
| 00:59.51 | YordanMadzhunkov | anybody awake here ? |
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| 02:05.44 | tcoppi | o.O |
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| 02:08.06 | tcoppi | slightly more than half |
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| 03:04.57 | crawfordc | Anyone know how I can go about getting a recplacement payment card? |
| 03:05.59 | scorche | i do not know the circumstances around that, but that sounds like a question for Ellen |
| 03:07.55 | crawfordc | in the middle of writing her. just thought I'd hit more than one possible source of info :) |
| 03:07.56 | crawfordc | thanks |
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| 03:18.34 | antarus | haha speaking of payment cars |
| 03:18.36 | antarus | cards |
| 03:18.41 | antarus | I haven't filed a PO for 2008 yet :/ |
| 03:24.12 | ojwb | wasn't there a cutoff last month? |
| 03:24.30 | ojwb | perhaps that was just for mentor stuff |
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| 03:48.44 | dberkholz | antarus: ^^ |
| 03:49.14 | dberkholz | that was mentor payments and summit flights |
| 03:50.36 | dberkholz | of particular concern is this line: "Requests for payment will not be acknowledged after February 6th." |
| 03:53.46 | proudfoot | welp |
| 03:53.48 | proudfoot | thats a pity |
| 03:53.58 | proudfoot | you lost the etnire 4.5k yet? |
| 03:54.08 | literal | what's a PO? |
| 03:54.51 | ojwb | purchase order |
| 03:56.05 | Landon | just tossed several several pounds of notes |
| 03:56.56 | proudfoot | ?? |
| 03:57.31 | dberkholz | i hope not, that would be pretty annoying. |
| 03:57.49 | dberkholz | although it's not 4500, we're on the org side of things .. |
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| 05:32.18 | scorche | [20:18:31] <antarus> I haven't filed a PO for 2008 yet :/ |
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| 05:32.26 | scorche | yeah...erm...there was a cutoff date ;) |
| 05:32.46 | micro | Hi all |
| 05:32.55 | forever | micro: hi |
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| 05:34.04 | micro | I want to participate in SOC this year. I'm eligible to participate. But I'm interested in machine learning & Image processing areas. |
| 05:34.18 | micro | are there any organizations in these areas? |
| 05:34.28 | scorche | !orgbycat |
| 05:34.31 | scorche | damn socinfo |
| 05:34.48 | scorche | micro: just a sec...gotta dig up the link =( |
| 05:35.38 | proudfoot | awesome |
| 05:35.39 | scorche | micro: here is a list for last year...keep in mind that this year's organization have not been chosen yet and this orgs for this list could be under many thing but had to choose one http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm |
| 05:35.42 | proudfoot | thats the same thing i'm interested in |
| 05:36.10 | scorche | proudfoot: also, i heard you talking about low level C and embedded stuff...check around if Rockbox is accepted this year ;) |
| 05:36.21 | scorche | ~orgbycat is http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm |
| 05:36.22 | ibot | okay, scorche |
| 05:37.24 | proudfoot | i think one of the biggest things is that big projects scare me |
| 05:37.41 | scorche | why? |
| 05:37.50 | proudfoot | probably because i've never done one before |
| 05:37.58 | proudfoot | good time to start |
| 05:38.13 | scorche | have to start sometime ;) |
| 05:38.30 | proudfoot | biggest program i wrote would probably be a connect 4 minimax algorithm, or that robot controlled by a PIC I did in high school |
| 05:38.31 | proudfoot | etc |
| 05:38.37 | proudfoot | rockbox, the sheer size of it scares me |
| 05:38.44 | proudfoot | but i can probably find a small part to work on |
| 05:39.20 | scorche | exactly...any project is just a bunch of small parts...very few people if any are intimately familiar with every part |
| 05:40.26 | proudfoot | meh |
| 05:41.46 | Landon | is considering doing business on the side of school and all that |
| 05:41.54 | Landon | does anyone here have experience with that sort of thing? |
| 05:41.58 | proudfoot | what do you mean |
| 05:42.00 | proudfoot | small business? |
| 05:42.02 | proudfoot | yes, I do |
| 05:42.03 | Landon | like running a small business outo f you room |
| 05:42.08 | proudfoot | yup |
| 05:42.14 | Landon | pm? |
| 05:42.14 | proudfoot | what type of business? |
| 05:42.17 | proudfoot | website? |
| 05:42.17 | proudfoot | etc? |
| 05:42.23 | proudfoot | sure |
| 05:42.26 | Landon | I was thinking more of HTPC building |
| 05:42.30 | Landon | rough draft though |
| 05:42.42 | proudfoot | thats a field i worked in, though might not be smart though |
| 05:42.49 | Landon | oh? |
| 05:44.16 | thebolt | Landon: i think you should get someone from same country to answer any questions.. it varies alot between countries how it is to run a small business.. |
| 05:45.07 | Landon | ah I'm not exactly looking for advice wrt actual implementation |
| 05:45.11 | Landon | just feasibility |
| 05:45.48 | thebolt | in part feasibility depends on the problems of an actual implementation ;) |
| 05:46.24 | proudfoot | summary: don't bother |
| 05:46.33 | Landon | :P |
| 05:47.56 | thebolt | well, maybe not in that business at least.. but there are areas where its worth it and can make you some money.. problem is finding the clients in those areas ;) |
| 05:50.49 | proudfoot | the certain areas that thebolt talks about is home theater integration |
| 05:50.52 | proudfoot | and stuff like that |
| 05:51.01 | proudfoot | however do you know how to dig speakers into walls |
| 05:51.11 | proudfoot | and it actually requires a permit |
| 05:51.26 | proudfoot | build an integrated home theater system with centralized control, and its pretty good profit |
| 05:53.11 | thebolt | proudfoot: well, the area i get some money is is DB construction, datahandling and translation services to a single specific customer type.. |
| 05:54.20 | Landon | proudfoot: that'd be fun, if I had the money to tinker with that sort of stuff to get a feel for it :P |
| 05:54.20 | proudfoot | i was thinking in his media center style service |
| 05:54.41 | Landon | thats beyond me though, no one wants someone to "tinker" with their installation I bet |
| 05:54.49 | proudfoot | pretty much |
| 05:54.57 | proudfoot | people hire other people to do things they can't do themselves |
| 05:55.06 | proudfoot | do you know how to cut rectangles in drywall |
| 05:55.12 | proudfoot | and string speaker wire through? |
| 05:55.19 | proudfoot | its harder then it looks |
| 05:55.27 | proudfoot | i tried this once with my dad. it looked ugly |
| 05:55.34 | proudfoot | hired a professional to make it look good |
| 05:56.40 | Landon | perhaps I'm best off with my next choice, find a small business willing to put up with me |
| 05:56.47 | Landon | as it is, i'm getting tired of my sysadmin job :\ |
| 05:56.57 | proudfoot | at least you have a job |
| 05:57.03 | proudfoot | what school? |
| 05:57.09 | Landon | kansas state university |
| 05:57.13 | proudfoot | ah |
| 05:57.22 | antarus | ah the classic university gig |
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| 05:57.32 | Landon | I'm sysadmin for one of the research labs here |
| 05:57.36 | proudfoot | university IT gig ftw |
| 05:57.38 | Landon | almost too demanding |
| 05:57.52 | proudfoot | I'm at UCSD |
| 05:57.56 | antarus | every sysadmin I've ever known has Sysadmin'd at a university or an ISP at one point ;) |
| 05:57.57 | proudfoot | going for a TA gig next year |
| 05:58.15 | Landon | antarus: god help me if I get pigeonholed into being a sysadmin for the rest of my life |
| 05:58.23 | antarus | hey hey hey |
| 05:58.29 | proudfoot | sysadmins make pretty good bank |
| 05:58.29 | antarus | don't bash my chosen profession ;) |
| 05:58.33 | Landon | I was young! and desperate! :P |
| 05:58.37 | Landon | antarus: yeah, but not my thing though |
| 05:58.40 | proudfoot | good sysadmins are also really rare |
| 05:58.46 | proudfoot | really really good ones |
| 05:58.55 | antarus | google hired most of them ;p |
| 05:58.59 | proudfoot | haha |
| 05:59.01 | Landon | :P |
| 05:59.05 | scorche | doesnt mind being a sysadmin |
| 05:59.20 | antarus | wants to switch tracks actually |
| 05:59.26 | Landon | scorche: my philosophy is itd be ok, if it weren't for the users :) |
| 05:59.37 | Landon | and that's almost the point of it |
| 05:59.37 | Landon | :\ |
| 05:59.43 | antarus | Landon: ahh see I have field techs to deal with users ;p |
| 05:59.49 | Landon | heh |
| 05:59.50 | scorche | heh...what kind of sysadmin deals with users?...i am a sysadmin so i DONT have to ;) |
| 05:59.51 | Landon | I don't |
| 05:59.55 | scorche | antarus: exactly |
| 05:59.57 | Landon | the kind in small labs :( |
| 06:00.03 | antarus | I <3 field techs |
| 06:00.12 | scorche | and helldesk techs |
| 06:00.13 | Landon | my users are coworkers/boss though |
| 06:00.26 | Landon | boss, who gets interesting notions about what he wants done |
| 06:00.34 | scorche | both of those guys do all the works i dont want to do so i am free to sleep for 6 hours a day =) |
| 06:00.34 | Landon | like setting up LDAP on his home network |
| 06:00.47 | antarus | laughs |
| 06:01.08 | antarus | 'sorry, not in my job description' |
| 06:01.44 | proudfoot | haha do it or you're fired |
| 06:02.01 | Landon | it's sort of in my job description |
| 06:02.02 | antarus | well in a normal job environment I'd advocate getting fired and finding a sane employer |
| 06:02.04 | scorche | DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT =p |
| 06:02.06 | Landon | since it's for his courses |
| 06:02.09 | scorche | whoops |
| 06:02.22 | antarus | but finding a sane employer is tough these days |
| 06:02.25 | Landon | although I don't know why he lets students get on his home network |
| 06:02.32 | Landon | there are a lot of things going on here that I don |
| 06:02.33 | Landon | t question |
| 06:02.49 | antarus | dissuading the boss typically involves convincing him the insane stuff he wants is expensive |
| 06:03.10 | antarus | or convincing the boss that you could spend those eight hours on $OTHER_IMPORTANT_TASK |
| 06:03.17 | scorche | like sleeping |
| 06:03.23 | Landon | ^ |
| 06:03.34 | antarus | not sleeping |
| 06:03.53 | antarus | you should be able to procure a full nights sleep and still work normal hours |
| 06:03.55 | Landon | I suppose if I get low grades again this semester I have good ammunition for a cutting into my studies argument |
| 06:03.58 | antarus | an invaluble life skill |
| 06:04.05 | antarus | like spelling |
| 06:04.07 | antarus | that I don't have |
| 06:04.11 | antarus | invaluable? |
| 06:04.11 | antarus | yes |
| 06:04.21 | scorche | surely you mean speling |
| 06:04.36 | proudfoot | does your boss actually care about your studies? |
| 06:05.31 | antarus | if he is an undergrad; yes |
| 06:05.38 | antarus | his boss is required to care; iirc |
| 06:06.04 | Landon | officially I cant work over 30 hours a week |
| 06:06.04 | Landon | :P |
| 06:06.05 | antarus | (depending on location and employment contract) |
| 06:06.37 | Landon | or something near that |
| 06:06.55 | antarus | 29 in MI |
| 06:08.55 | proudfoot | required to care is different from caring |
| 06:09.04 | proudfoot | btw scorche, are you a mentor for the rockbox project? |
| 06:09.15 | antarus | my boss in college was crazy |
| 06:09.24 | antarus | but she never make me do anything at her home |
| 06:09.31 | antarus | that would have been nuts ;) |
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| 06:09.56 | scorche | proudfoot: sure =) |
| 06:10.32 | proudfoot | haha |
| 06:10.40 | proudfoot | you are a mod therefore you have an inherent amount of trust |
| 06:10.50 | proudfoot | would you like my root password |
| 06:10.56 | antarus | blinks |
| 06:10.59 | scorche | o_O |
| 06:11.01 | antarus | is this some sick SELinux trick? |
| 06:11.04 | Catfish_Man | is it hunter2? |
| 06:11.05 | antarus | This is so 2004 |
| 06:11.08 | proudfoot | haha |
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| 06:11.17 | proudfoot | haha |
| 06:11.44 | antarus | gentoo used to run a sparc machine with SElinux that we published the root password for |
| 06:11.47 | antarus | I wonder what happened to that damn thing |
| 06:11.58 | antarus | or maybe it was someone else and it just happened to run gentoo |
| 06:11.59 | antarus | I forget |
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| 06:13.30 | Landon | my root password is |
| 06:13.33 | Landon | **********************8 |
| 06:13.46 | antarus | has rules about passwords |
| 06:13.48 | Landon | hey! it censored it |
| 06:13.49 | Landon | etc etc |
| 06:13.50 | Landon | :P |
| 06:13.56 | antarus | they must start with / and have a ! in them somewhere |
| 06:13.57 | Landon | in all reality though |
| 06:14.02 | Landon | my root pw is null |
| 06:14.23 | antarus | / prevents accidental pasting into irc channels |
| 06:14.27 | antarus | and ! prevents bash history |
| 06:14.28 | antarus | ;p |
| 06:14.36 | scorche | tab chars in passwords are nifty too |
| 06:14.36 | Catfish_Man | antarus: heh, good idea |
| 06:14.42 | proudfoot | wait really password censoring? |
| 06:14.46 | proudfoot | hunter2 hunter2 hunter2 |
| 06:14.48 | ojwb | what scares me is the idea that you cut and paste root passwords... |
| 06:14.49 | Landon | proudfoot: of course! |
| 06:15.09 | antarus | ojwb: ummm I have a password store with hundreds of passwords in it |
| 06:15.14 | Landon | bruce schneiers root pw is really an epic passpoem, etc :P |
| 06:15.17 | antarus | of course i'm going to cut and paste |
| 06:15.30 | antarus | (most of them are randomly generated by other people) |
| 06:15.34 | Landon | antarus what if you have a space in your client though |
| 06:15.37 | scorche | antarus: start putting tab chars in them! =p |
| 06:15.37 | Landon | from an untyped sentence |
| 06:15.42 | Landon | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:15.45 | Landon | whoopsi |
| 06:15.54 | antarus | Landon: that still happens; but is significantly harder to prevent |
| 06:16.03 | proudfoot | msg nickserv identify hunter2 |
| 06:16.05 | proudfoot | oops |
| 06:16.13 | antarus | I mean even if you paste the password into irc with a / in front you still have to change it |
| 06:16.20 | osgeo_wolf | /leave |
| 06:16.22 | antarus | it just limits who can read it |
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| 06:16.26 | Catfish_Man | Landon: I consider that to be a bug in irc actually :P |
| 06:16.31 | Landon | :P |
| 06:16.45 | proudfoot | i do all my identifies before i join a channel though |
| 06:16.48 | proudfoot | precisely to combat this |
| 06:16.57 | Landon | I do all my identifies with my client |
| 06:17.00 | antarus | and I doubt most ircds log everything that is sent to them |
| 06:17.02 | Landon | so I don't have to worry about it |
| 06:17.27 | antarus | other classics include putting passwords into pastebins |
| 06:17.32 | antarus | which continuously amuses me |
| 06:17.34 | Landon | haha |
| 06:17.51 | proudfoot | pastebin.com search for password |
| 06:17.55 | Landon | similar stuff happened a lot on #facebook when applications came out |
| 06:18.00 | Landon | "Can you look over this code for me?"" |
| 06:18.00 | proudfoot | or go to large corporate website, search for classified |
| 06:18.12 | Landon | *takes out db and db password, but leaves in application keys* |
| 06:18.41 | antarus | application keys? private keys? |
| 06:18.42 | Landon | proudfoot: site like ihacked or something has a lot of premade google searches |
| 06:18.46 | Landon | for classified information |
| 06:18.52 | Landon | antarus: app key + secret key = control over app |
| 06:18.57 | antarus | right |
| 06:19.04 | antarus | just making sure I interpreted correctly |
| 06:19.10 | Landon | yeah |
| 06:19.18 | proudfoot | haha |
| 06:19.19 | proudfoot | brilliant |
| 06:19.29 | proudfoot | or |
| 06:19.42 | proudfoot | someone asks you to restore a phpbb database from backup |
| 06:19.48 | proudfoot | and phpbb doesn't salt hashes |
| 06:20.26 | Landon | http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/23/42/ |
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| 14:14.36 | saurabh | hello guys |
| 14:14.41 | saurabh | I am new in this channel |
| 14:15.23 | saurabh | can any one tell me, if we do have some projects on Drupal in GSOC |
| 14:17.39 | brlcad | saurabh: the answer is the same for any project/language/mentor/org ... read the FAQs and talk to the people in the communities you are interested in |
| 14:18.34 | Gurpartap | Hello saurabh |
| 14:18.46 | brlcad | every org has things that can be worked on, nobody knows who is going to participate, you really should read the FAQ and prior mailing list chatter |
| 14:18.57 | Gurpartap | saurabh: Attended the Drupal Delhi Meetup yesterday? |
| 14:19.00 | brlcad | in a nutshell at least |
| 14:19.04 | saurabh | na |
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| 14:19.52 | saurabh | ok, I will see the FAQs, then ask u guys |
| 14:19.54 | Gurpartap | saurabh: http://drupal.org/google-summer-of-code/2009 |
| 14:19.59 | Gurpartap | also ^ |
| 14:20.00 | Gurpartap | :) |
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| 15:34.56 | ajuonline | ~timeline |
| 15:34.57 | ibot | http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html#0_1_timeline_5354032302481437_ |
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| 16:06.23 | Gurpartap | LOL |
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| 16:29.45 | saurabh1403 | ooops |
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| 16:29.48 | saurabh1403 | sorry |
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| 17:42.23 | Sevein | hi! |
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| 17:42.50 | Sevein | do you know when expires the credit cared which gsoc 2008 students received? |
| 17:43.41 | ThomasWaldmann | yesterday |
| 17:43.57 | ThomasWaldmann | no, just joking :D |
| 17:44.02 | Sevein | hahaha |
| 17:44.30 | Sevein | well, I have just realized that the credit card expiration date is may |
| 17:44.47 | Sevein | sooooo... i will give $ some more time to grow :) |
| 17:44.50 | kitallis | how are cresits given? |
| 17:45.02 | kitallis | credits |
| 17:45.37 | Sevein | they gave us a beautiful credit card you can manage from genetservice.com |
| 17:45.42 | kitallis | cool |
| 17:46.06 | Sevein | I am from Spain but I was using it in NY in my last holidays, everything was okay |
| 17:46.09 | kitallis | i want money too |
| 17:46.26 | Sevein | but gsoc never was the best chance to get money easily :) |
| 17:46.32 | kitallis | i NEED to do this |
| 17:46.53 | kitallis | i'm supposed to do this |
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| 17:54.40 | Sevein | my question was responsed recently in gsoc-students mailing-list, it seems the card expires on march 28th, booo! |
| 17:55.02 | ecin | Sevein: you're letting interest accumulate? |
| 17:56.28 | Sevein | ecin: don't understand the question, sorry, bad English! |
| 17:56.31 | Sevein | (mine) |
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| 17:57.43 | gloob | Sevein: dice que si estás dejando acumular los intereses |
| 17:58.15 | Sevein | gloob: thanks :) |
| 17:58.53 | Sevein | ecin: not really, I haven't get the money from the credit card because I traveled to USA recently |
| 17:58.55 | gloob | ecin: he's waiting for a favourable exchange rate |
| 17:59.06 | Sevein | noooo! |
| 17:59.32 | ecin | Sevein: en que trabajaste el año pasado? |
| 17:59.53 | gloob | ecin: /join #spanish-gsoc |
| 17:59.55 | Sevein | ossim |
| 18:00.00 | Sevein | I must go, sorry! |
| 18:00.17 | Sevein | is going to buy bikes accessories :) |
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| 18:38.51 | kitallis | help |
| 18:39.45 | ecin | kitallis: hard to do without knowledge of what you need help with. |
| 18:39.45 | schumaml | "help" could be "people will help if they read a useful question" |
| 18:40.02 | schumaml | ;) |
| 18:40.24 | kitallis | sorry was playing with a cli irc client |
| 18:40.33 | kitallis | was looking for list of commands |
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| 18:40.50 | ajuonline | all hail lhawthorn |
| 18:41.02 | ajuonline | :D |
| 18:41.19 | osgeo_wolf | hails lh |
| 18:41.45 | lh | osgeo_wolf: hail wolf |
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| 18:41.49 | lh | ajuonline: hail |
| 18:41.49 | lh | :) |
| 18:41.58 | lh | pokes around socghop.appspot.com |
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| 18:52.17 | proudfoot | why would you want to leave us |
| 18:52.18 | proudfoot | :( |
| 18:52.54 | ajuonline | :) |
| 18:53.02 | kitallis | lol |
| 18:53.13 | kitallis | this cli irc client is very buggy |
| 18:53.26 | ajuonline | anyone does Java? |
| 18:53.27 | proudfoot | go improve the code |
| 18:53.34 | kitallis | i was testing out this scrappy little irc client my frnd made |
| 18:53.36 | proudfoot | ajuonline, i do a bit, what do you need? |
| 18:53.38 | kitallis | in python |
| 18:53.43 | kitallis | loads of bugs |
| 18:53.45 | kitallis | haha |
| 18:53.45 | proudfoot | lawl |
| 18:53.51 | proudfoot | probably uses twisted |
| 18:53.54 | lut4rp | kitallis: hey |
| 18:53.54 | proudfoot | as a backend |
| 18:54.04 | ajuonline | proudfoot: can I pm you? |
| 18:54.11 | proudfoot | uh sure |
| 18:54.13 | kitallis | lut4rp: yo |
| 18:54.29 | lut4rp | kitallis: how you doing? |
| 18:54.41 | kitallis | lut4rp: drugs |
| 18:54.47 | lut4rp | :o |
| 18:55.26 | lut4rp | kitallis: what client are you using? |
| 18:55.59 | proudfoot | a scrappy python frontend to twisted |
| 18:56.04 | kitallis | lut4rp: some stupid thing one of my frnd made |
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| 18:56.13 | lut4rp | twisted! :) |
| 18:56.30 | kitallis | lut4rp: yep |
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| 18:56.59 | kitallis | wait i log back in on irssi |
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| 19:01.25 | spectie | hey all |
| 19:01.51 | proudfoot | if i hear python and irc, twisted is normally correct |
| 19:01.53 | proudfoot | glad to see i guessed |
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| 19:07.00 | Dev_ | drugs |
| 19:07.18 | Dev_ | nick kitallis |
| 19:07.35 | Dev_ | lol still |
| 19:07.38 | Dev_ | not working |
| 19:07.41 | ajuonline | you know, you can test all your irc skills in #test-playground or whatver |
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| 19:07.58 | Dev_ | oh ok |
| 19:08.28 | Dev_ | btw i'm not testing my irc skills |
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| 20:09.35 | dan_ | hello, i have a question regarding student eligility |
| 20:10.21 | Lennie | give it a shot dan_, maybe I can help you |
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| 20:10.32 | Lennie | or put you through to someone who can :) |
| 20:10.40 | dan_ | ok :) |
| 20:12.04 | dan_ | well, here in the UK we finish 'high school' at 16, and what i'm in now is college (basically grade 12) is this eligible or would i need to wait till next year in university? |
| 20:12.47 | MatthewWilkes | dan_: Is it a 6th form college or a HE college? |
| 20:12.52 | MatthewWilkes | rr, FE college even |
| 20:13.11 | MatthewWilkes | err, even ;) |
| 20:13.47 | dan_ | it's the same level as 6th form, but i'm doing a diploma in IT |
| 20:13.51 | Lennie | hmm |
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| 20:14.14 | MatthewWilkes | dan_: HND or similar? That's approx associate degree in the USA, by my understanding |
| 20:14.29 | MatthewWilkes | but it doesn't correspond exactly |
| 20:14.39 | Lennie | lh: correct me if I'm wrong but isn't GSoC for people who are 18 years or older on 20th of April 2009? |
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| 20:15.11 | dan_ | i'm 18 as of a month ago |
| 20:15.17 | Lennie | dan_, k ^^ |
| 20:15.20 | Lennie | ok |
| 20:15.28 | Lennie | then that is not an issue :P |
| 20:15.53 | Lennie | ) you |
| 20:15.53 | Lennie | are enrolled in or accepted into an accredited institution including but not |
| 20:15.53 | Lennie | necessarily limited to a college, university, masters program, PhD program |
| 20:15.53 | Lennie | and/or undergraduate program; |
| 20:16.03 | Lennie | that's what it says in the student agreement |
| 20:16.12 | Lennie | so as far as I can tell you can apply :) |
| 20:16.25 | Lennie | but no guarantees :D |
| 20:16.39 | MatthewWilkes | dan_: I'd agree with Lennie, my interpretation is A-Level students can't unless they've firmly accepted a UCAS offer, FE students can. |
| 20:16.44 | rohananil | hi all :) |
| 20:16.52 | dan_ | i see |
| 20:16.57 | MatthewWilkes | Of course, it's not my interpretation that is sovereign ;) |
| 20:17.03 | dan_ | well, i have several Univristy offers |
| 20:17.16 | dan_ | i havent accepted one yet |
| 20:17.38 | MatthewWilkes | dan_: But you're doing a diploma, which is more collegey |
| 20:18.34 | ajuonline | rohananil: hi all to you too :) |
| 20:18.40 | ajuonline | rohananil: up late? |
| 20:18.50 | rohananil | ajuonline: as always :) |
| 20:19.03 | ajuonline | it seems I am speaking at the first ever Sahana Conf 2009 :P |
| 20:19.06 | dan_ | ok, well i'll apply anyway and see what happens :) thanks for the help |
| 20:19.07 | ajuonline | wheeee! |
| 20:19.10 | ajuonline | is excited |
| 20:19.25 | rohananil | ajuonline: when and where ? :) |
| 20:19.32 | ajuonline | rohananil: Sri Lanka ;) |
| 20:19.34 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: don't screw it up |
| 20:19.54 | ajuonline | kicks summatusmentis |
| 20:19.56 | ajuonline | i wont :P |
| 20:20.00 | summatusmentis | you might |
| 20:20.05 | rohananil | omg :) |
| 20:20.06 | ajuonline | how ? :P |
| 20:20.18 | summatusmentis | I don't know, suppose you come down with whooping cough right before it |
| 20:20.29 | MatthewWilkes | dan_: Sure, good luck! And good luck with Uni applications, mind if I ask where you've applied so far? (Just curiosity) |
| 20:20.34 | summatusmentis | or suppose your ears fall off? |
| 20:20.48 | rohananil | ajuonline: when is it? |
| 20:20.50 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: i cant swear here. but you know, what I'd say. if it wasnt publically logged channel! |
| 20:21.02 | summatusmentis | haha :-D |
| 20:21.08 | summatusmentis | you _could_ swear |
| 20:21.17 | ajuonline | rohananil: i dont want a kick from schumaml |
| 20:21.19 | summatusmentis | I mean, it's not like anyone is watching >_> |
| 20:21.22 | ajuonline | oops scorche|sh |
| 20:21.31 | ajuonline | oh damn, yeah :P |
| 20:21.35 | rohananil | :P |
| 20:21.42 | ajuonline | MARCH 24 & 25, 2009 |
| 20:21.44 | ajuonline | rohananil: ^ |
| 20:21.46 | dan_ | i've applied to reading, oxford brookes, bristol |
| 20:21.53 | milki | lol |
| 20:21.59 | ajuonline | http://sahana2009.foss.lk/ this is it |
| 20:22.21 | ajuonline | do we have any sri lankan soc students/mentors here? ;) |
| 20:22.31 | summatusmentis | wow, that's a pretty website |
| 20:22.44 | gaveen | ajuonline, student here :) |
| 20:22.56 | ajuonline | gaveen: i see you on twitter :P |
| 20:23.04 | MatthewWilkes | dan_: I'm at Bristol :) |
| 20:23.04 | gaveen | ajuonline, yep that's me |
| 20:23.16 | ajuonline | gaveen: attending this event? |
| 20:23.25 | rohananil | i am still to be hit with the twitter bug :( |
| 20:23.34 | MatthewWilkes | dan_: Computer Science? |
| 20:23.40 | ajuonline | there is a barcamp, maybe we should conduct a GSoC meetup there :P |
| 20:23.43 | ajuonline | gaveen: ^ |
| 20:23.56 | gaveen | ajuonline, not really. personally haven't used Sahana and not big with PHP either |
| 20:23.58 | ajuonline | i know there are a _lot_ of soc-ers in SL |
| 20:24.10 | ajuonline | gaveen: its conducted by foss.lk |
| 20:24.17 | rohananil | ajuonline: thats an understatement :) |
| 20:24.21 | ajuonline | so I guess, its pretty open :P |
| 20:24.32 | dan_ | software engineering |
| 20:24.33 | ajuonline | rohananil: what is? |
| 20:25.00 | rohananil | lot of soc-ers , i thought maximum from there? |
| 20:25.12 | ajuonline | lol i guess :) |
| 20:25.16 | ajuonline | dont remember the exact stats |
| 20:25.31 | MatthewWilkes | dan_: Software engineering? Must be a new one, wasn't there when I applied. |
| 20:25.43 | ajuonline | dude, gaveen you should push them all and have a GSOC-meetup at the barCamp there. |
| 20:25.45 | gaveen | ajuonline, yes, foss.lk and lug.lk are closely related. So I'll try to go any give a hand with organizing ang things |
| 20:26.08 | gaveen | ajuonline, that's a good idea |
| 20:26.12 | dan_ | it may be Computer Science (Software Development) or something |
| 20:26.18 | ajuonline | gaveen: me shoots an email, to the mailing list :) |
| 20:26.38 | MatthewWilkes | :) |
| 20:26.40 | gaveen | there's a serious number if SoC participants in SL. Don't know how many wil be attending the event thogh |
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| 20:28.00 | gaveen | ajuonline, I'll chk that one :) |
| 20:28.35 | gaveen | ajuonline, took your mobile stack survey. Is it for the SoC or your Uni project? |
| 20:29.13 | ajuonline | Uni project |
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| 20:30.13 | gaveen | cool |
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| 20:33.30 | gaveen | ajuonline, anyway, I don't think there'll be a problem having a SoC meetup at the barcamp. |
| 20:33.45 | gaveen | anyway,... I'm gonna hit the bed now. catch you guys later |
| 20:36.32 | cyber_11 | hi guys i need to find out when student projects will be released |
| 20:37.16 | ajuonline | cyber_11: this years? or the last years? |
| 20:37.20 | ajuonline | ~timelines |
| 20:37.22 | ajuonline | ~timeline |
| 20:37.23 | ibot | http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html#0_1_timeline_5354032302481437_ |
| 20:37.23 | spectie | cyber_11, many organisations have their ideas pages already up |
| 20:37.33 | spectie | cyber_11, but you won't know who has been accepted until the 13th |
| 20:37.41 | spectie | http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html#0_1_mentor_time_62235259174075_7486507545591703 |
| 20:37.50 | spectie | sorry, 18th |
| 20:38.01 | cyber_11 | thanx |
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| 20:44.35 | ajuonline | gaveen: mail sent ;) |
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| 20:46.18 | e^ipi | lh or Chris kicking about? |
| 20:46.33 | spectie | hi e^ipi |
| 20:46.36 | spectie | i haven't seen them |
| 20:46.40 | e^ipi | howdy |
| 20:46.43 | e^ipi | drats |
| 20:46.51 | spectie | well, lh is online but inactive 2 hours |
| 20:47.23 | e^ipi | anyone from google's end of things, really |
| 20:49.49 | MatthewWilkes | -1: Nothing the rest of us might be able to help with? |
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| 20:51.33 | r0bby | email lh or the list |
| 20:51.39 | r0bby | e^ipi: ^ |
| 20:51.54 | r0bby | chris and lh both watch it. |
| 20:52.31 | codestr0m | e^ipi: if you find out about gsoc let me know please.. from my end I was planning to propose it from an OSUNIX/Belenix/Nexenta pov as admin contact |
| 20:52.40 | summatusmentis | I'm with MatthewWilkes, can we help? |
| 20:53.19 | e^ipi | summatusmentis: unlikely, it's something that really only a liason with google can help with |
| 20:56.43 | dan_ | ok, i have to go, thanks again for your help, i'll hopefully be back soon (hopefully) |
| 20:58.30 | r0bby | e^ipi: then you should probably ask on the list or email lh? |
| 20:58.56 | e^ipi | yes, i'll email leslie |
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| 21:27.09 | adam-_- | does anyone know if the dates are flexible for gsoc? im at uni in the uk and i dont finish until june 20th or so (admitedly i finish exams early june) but it would mean i'd not really fit in with the proposed time scales set forth by google? |
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| 21:28.10 | antarus | adam-_-: I think if you are up front about your timeline you will be only slightly inconvenienced |
| 21:28.44 | antarus | adam-_-: I don't think they adjust the timeline at all; so you would have to finish during the same timeframe as everyone else |
| 21:29.22 | adam-_- | antarus: fair enough. that would seem to put me at a disadvantage but i guess i will have to wait and see |
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| 22:39.50 | JoeyAdams | Can someone be both a mentor and a student in GSoC? |
| 22:40.09 | danderson | no. |
| 22:40.12 | danderson | one or the other. |
| 22:40.29 | ojwb | is fairly sure this years FAQ explicitly says |
| 22:40.30 | JoeyAdams | or at least be the "person or group responsible for taking over for a student's assigned mentor in the event they are unable to continue mentoring" |
| 22:41.14 | danderson | if you are an established member of a larger developer community, and you want to put the community as a fallback for the mentor, that sounds okay |
| 22:42.02 | ojwb | http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html#0_1_mentor_and_student_9969355_7741696331513236 fwiw |
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| 22:43.35 | JoeyAdams | thanks |
| 22:44.47 | ESphynx | JoeyAdams : that faq question is what I was referring to :P |
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