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06:18.15kizzoWould it be acceptable to propose the creation of a game for GSOC 2009, or would a proposal have to be something more "useful"?
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06:19.05Landonkizzo: there are a few OSS games that apply
06:19.07Landonif that's what you mean
06:19.31LandonI don't think making your own would go very far though, but you could always try to apply to the "catchall" google org,
06:19.38Landonin that case though, you would have to find your own mentor
06:20.17kizzoI see.
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06:21.36Landoncan only remember Battle for Wesnoth from last year
06:21.42Landonbut I'm pretty sure there were a few others
06:21.52Landonas some people were submitting proposals to work on AI
06:22.10kizzoI'm trying to recreate Super Smash Bros. Melee.
06:22.27kizzoUsing pygame probably.
06:22.36Landonthat's quite the task
06:22.42theboltkizzo: i don't think there are any organizations (last year at least) that accepted "new games"
06:23.10theboltyou had at least two games (battle for wesnoth and thousand parasec) and a few game-technology related (ogre, crystalspace, bullet)
06:24.36theboltfor the exisiting games.. well, you are supposed to work in their project ;) on the tech-side it might be feasible as a demo or so.. but not sure
06:24.39Greywhinddon't forget BZFlag
06:24.44theboltah, right, bzflag also
06:24.58theboltshould definitely remember them.. they gave me a nice t-shirt at the gsoc mentor summit .)
06:25.29Greywhindi would have gotten one, but they were all extra-large
06:26.16theboltyep, fits me
06:28.07kizzoYeah I'm thinking about two proposals - open source smash, or making python language bindings for opencog.org .
06:28.40kizzoThe second seems more feasable (but the first I'd be very passionate about : ).
06:28.48Landonmonodevelop + eeepc = ...interesting
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09:38.54kostyahi all
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11:01.59l3ftm1n0rcan anyone help me out? i have a project proposal for one of the particiapting organizations of last year. how can i find out to whom i should contact to present my idea?
11:02.16spectiewhich organisation ?
11:02.20l3ftm1n0rgnome
11:02.27spectieyou should probably contact someone in GNOME
11:02.35l3ftm1n0rwho should that someone be?
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11:03.31spectiel3ftm1n0r, gnome is quite big
11:03.56l3ftm1n0ryea but there must be someone who takes care of gsoc mails
11:04.08l3ftm1n0rand i didnt find anything on the soc site
11:04.22l3ftm1n0rthe gnome page that is
11:04.52spectiehave you asked in #gnome?
11:05.05WinterMutehttp://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2009 might be a good place to start
11:05.39spectieindeed
11:05.56l3ftm1n0ryea just chekcing that out.
11:05.58l3ftm1n0rthanks a lot
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14:44.47moacirdeoliveirasomeone from wordpress?
14:45.28lut4rpmoacirdeoliveira: you'll have more luck in #wordpress than here.
14:48.27moacirdeoliveirai'm looking for people who will submit gsoc ideas to wordpress
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14:49.05Gurpartapi have one: rm -rf wp-*
14:49.11Gurpartapj/k :P
14:49.12ojwbyou'll still probably do better contacting the wordpress people directly
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16:11.43twitter1Greetings everybody
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16:22.31twitter1Hello all. I have a query. I am interested in an open-source project that will be taking part in GS0C 2009. However while browsing through their mailing archives, I found that one of last year's participant of gsoc for that organization has announced his intention to take part in the same project again this year. This guy's work last year was very good. Now, this project at max will be given two student slots by google (based on previous GSoC trends), maybe th
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16:22.59summatusmentistwitter1: it cut you off
16:23.08twitter1what?
16:23.29scorche|sh"trends), maybe th"
16:23.34summatusmentisright
16:23.44summatusmentisbreak up what you're saying into smaller pieces
16:23.55twitter1summatusmentis: ok.
16:24.51twitter1Well, so my question is, isn't it a bit unfair that previous GSoCers are allowed again to GS0C 2009?
16:25.08summatusmentisI'm not sure I understand why that would be the case
16:25.15scorche|shunfair?
16:25.37summatusmentisisn't the point of GSoC do get good people into open source?
16:25.51twitter1I gave the reason why above, in that long cmment of mine. Has it been cut off?
16:25.52summatusmentis(by providing funding for their work)
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16:26.22twitter1Letme repeat it.
16:26.22summatusmentisGoogle can't fund everyone, that's impossible
16:26.46twitter1I am interested in an open-source project that will be taking part in GS0C 2009. However while browsing through their mailing archives, I found that one of last year's participant of gsoc for that organization has announced his intention to take part in the same project again this year
16:26.55twitter1This guy's work last year was very good. Now, this project at max will be given two student slots by google (based on previous GSoC trends), maybe this time even one.
16:27.01twitter1This means, that this year the chances of my application being choosen by that organization will be very very less.
16:27.21summatusmentisyes, it may mean that
16:27.30summatusmentisit also means you can apply to other organizations
16:27.38kblinwell, that's something the mentoring organization has to decide
16:28.24summatusmentiscompetition is a part of GSoC. As I said above, Google can't fund everyone, hence the reason for giving organizations a limited number of slots.
16:29.21summatusmentisit sounds harsh, but I would argue that GSoC isn't about equality, and making sure everyone gets paid (fairly well), it's about getting the best students interested in open source software
16:29.30Landon^
16:30.31twitter1I do not mind hard work, and trying to be the best. But fact is previous GSoCers already have a great community bonding
16:30.44summatusmentisthey absolutely do
16:30.44twitter1That is a HUGE advantage
16:31.00Landonthat's unavoidable, but some communities may make it a priority to either get more students interested
16:31.09Landonor make progress
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16:31.28twitter1That's true.
16:31.31Landonlike some students might submit proposals to continue their projects from last summer if it had a fairly large scope
16:31.54summatusmentisit's not any different than an intern re-applying to a company and getting it because she was there last year
16:31.55Landonthe best thing to do now is get familiar with the code base and community and you'll be almost on the level of someone who has previously done soc
16:32.01Landon(possibly submitting a few patches as well)
16:32.10Landonactually, submitting a few patches would probably put you right up there
16:32.31kblintwitter1: I might be biased, but I think allowing students to participate again is a very good thing
16:33.25twitter1Hmmm, in my opinion, it defeats the purpose of GSoC which is to introduce NEW students to the opensouce world.
16:33.28kblinI didn't really get involved past-GSoC until after my second gsoc
16:34.24kblinand for my third time around, I picked a new mentoring org, just to get a new challenge
16:34.52kblinbut without my second and third gsocs, I wouldn't be an open source developer
16:34.53summatusmentistwitter1: nothing is stopping you from participating if you don't get into GSoC
16:35.32twitter1summatusmentis: I know. But still ... :)
16:35.41summatusmentisbut there's no payment, I get it
16:36.00summatusmentiswe're all balancing the 24 hours a day we have, and there's never enough time to do everything we want to do
16:36.44summatusmentistwitter1: you are allowed (or have been in the past, no reason to think this will change) to submit up to 20 applications
16:37.05Landon(you have time to submit maybe 5 :P) heh
16:37.24summatusmentisobviously completing 20 applications in the alloted application period is insane, but there's nothing stopping you from applying to more than one org, more than one project
16:37.32summatusmentisallotted?
16:38.41summatusmentisregardless. Yes, in some cases previous GSoCers coming back will fill a spot, in other cases 2nd or 3rd time GSoCers will become integrated into their community, and act as mentors, opening up a spot
16:39.24summatusmentisfurther still, most people are only allowed to apply for 4 years (undergrad), and assuming they don't go to grad school, then leave
16:39.32summatusmentis(GSoC, not the community)
16:39.41Landon(as a student)
16:39.53summatusmentisLandon's got it :)
16:40.06summatusmentisthis also opens up some slots
16:40.50summatusmentisso yes, arguably returning GSoCers can beat out new GSoCers for a spot in a certain org at a certain time, but there are lots of other opportunities
16:41.26summatusmentisthere are also some orgs that fund some projects outside of GSoC if they aren't allocated enough spots, but want to accept more projects
16:44.29summatusmentistwitter1: I don't mean to completely destroy you >_> I realized that I just typed enough to be a small newspaper article :)
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16:45.37twitter1no no. You made some very good points. Actually, the things you said should be in a blog somewhere for others to read too.
16:45.51ajuonlinesummatusmentis: your article might just make it to my blog :)
16:45.58ajuonlinesummatusmentis: or do you have one of your own ?
16:46.15ajuonlinedo a write up on "Repeating GSoC students" or something :)
16:47.01Landonblogs are hard
16:47.02Landon:(
16:47.08twitter1hehe
16:47.13twitter1no
16:47.27ajuonlinesummatusmentis: and I am serious :)
16:48.38LandonI tried keeping a blog
16:48.44Landonbut I'm no good at articulating
16:48.57Landonno one wants to read a disjointed rambling :D
16:49.10ajuonlinewho cares :P
16:49.16LandonI do!
16:49.21Landonif I don't want to read it, no one does :P
16:49.34ajuonlineif you keep worrying what people will think. you end up living in misery :P
16:49.44Landonnah, not worrying about what people think
16:49.49Landonbut
16:49.50Landonat some point
16:49.52Landonwhile I'm writing
16:49.56Landonif its longer than a few sentences
16:49.59Landonthe whole thing will collapse
16:50.01Landonand take me with it
16:50.02Landon:P
16:50.05ajuonlinelol
16:50.26Landonsure i've had some good ones
16:50.27Landonbut the rest :\
16:50.33Landonhttp://blog.lfowles.org
16:52.24ajuonlineLandon: u suck :P
16:52.35Landontold you
16:52.35Landon:P
16:52.49ajuonlineLandon: but doesnt matter. keep putting it up regularly
16:53.01Landonyeah I need to find an easier way
16:53.06Landonmy VPS hasnt been too great lately
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16:53.19Landonand I use CLI to put entries up
16:53.35Landonmy ADDish tendencies get me distracted in the up to 5 minutes it takes to spawn a shell
16:53.51ajuonlinegeta wordpress
16:53.51Landon(crowded server >.<)
16:54.00LandonI've looked at that
16:54.08Landonbut I don't want to run a full blown DB
16:54.32Landonsomething with sqlite preferably
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16:56.03summatusmentisajuonline: you can use it, just link to me :)
16:56.17summatusmentisotherwise, I can go through my logs later, and do a write-up on it
16:56.44ajuonlinesummatusmentis: yeah, do it :) i am working on my assignment. :P, you have a blog?
16:56.54summatusmentisI do, summatusmentis.com
16:57.11summatusmentisI'll do a write-up later. twitter1, want credit?
16:58.16twitter1Not really :|
16:58.46twitter1that smiley didn't work :(
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17:37.15summatusmentistwitter1: credit for spurring on the discussion, I'm not going to say something like "twitter1 was whining a lot, fixed his problem like this", that's just rude :)
17:38.24Landondoh
17:38.33LandonI got my pants in a twist all getting references set up in visual studio
17:38.36Landonso I could compile the testing program
17:38.43Landonturns out I forgot to even finish my priority queue class
17:38.57summatusmentishow does visual studio affect the state of your pants?
17:39.08Landonlots of squirming in my chair when things dont work
17:39.25summatusmentisso it's really your butt's fault
17:39.28Gamarasummatusmentis There's this whole 'pants' wizard for .net
17:39.45summatusmentisGamara: I'm very not ok with that :)
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17:42.24Landonall this business with types just kills m
17:42.25Landone
17:42.27Landonwants python back
17:42.41Landonand public and private and sealing and my head goes boom
17:42.42summatusmentisalways kinda meant to learn python
17:43.24summatusmentisman, I wish birkenstock made winter boots
17:43.39Landonyou should
17:43.41Landonits a great language
17:43.51Landonespecially for doing my CIS assignment in 20min instead of 5hr
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17:51.39Landonkicks C# again
17:52.00LandonI don't see how my class can get any more accessible than using 'public'
17:52.06BarryCarlyonspawns into existance ludly
17:52.10BarryCarlyonLOUD NOISES!
17:52.15Landondo I need to do "slut PriorityQueue()" ?
17:52.26LandonBarryCarlyon: !
17:52.38BarryCarlyonHows it going?
17:52.47Landondealing with C#
17:52.54Landonso, not as well as I'd like
17:52.55Landon:P
17:53.08BarryCarlyonrofl
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17:54.44Landonaha
17:54.47Landonnow I'm getting somewhere
17:54.50Landononly 4 errors!
17:54.52Landoninstead of 24
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17:57.27Landon2
17:58.54Landonand of course, all this work just to find out my basic algorithm doesnt work
17:58.56Landon<3
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18:26.47Landonhm, should a priority queue implemented with a heap be faster than one with a doubly linked list o.O
18:27.25Landonoh wait
18:27.28LandonI am doing it right
18:27.28Landonphew
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18:57.21bn2vsHey guys
18:57.22bn2vsIs it possible to get a few google thisrts without participating in GSoC anyway? :p
18:57.54Landonnot GSOC tshirts, but yes :P
18:58.08bn2vsHow? :)
18:58.10lifeeth|sleepbn2vs, Sure.. You can buy them off the google store
18:58.19LandonI would ask lh when she's on
18:58.24Landonyou might be able to get some OSPO swag
19:00.38bn2vsOk, i'll do that :)
19:00.38bn2vsI just love walking around with google stuff and drive everyone crazy :p I went hiking with this on my backpack http://code.bn2vs.com/files/bngoogleflag.jpg
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19:15.27Landonhaha nice
19:15.39Landonfor a second there I thought they were google boxer shorts or something
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19:16.33dandersonno, you will not be able to get ospo swag
19:16.39dandersonmy opinion, not authoritative
19:16.49dandersonbut swag doesn't get handed out to random irc inquiries
19:17.16ajuonlineyou need to get to it :)
19:17.29Landonyeah, you need to stick around a while and build a presence
19:17.30Landon:P
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19:22.33Landonajuonline: great video haha
19:22.52Landonthe 25 things one
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20:31.37Lenniebrags about his Google Chicago T-Shirt to bn2vs ^_ ^
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20:37.17bn2vsomg :o
20:37.29ajuonlinetakes that t-shirt from Lennie and runs
20:37.38Lennieah damn :(
20:37.50Lennieajuonline, I'll catch you some day
20:38.02ajuonlineLennie: i live like half way across the globe.
20:38.13ajuonlineand dont ask me how I came there and vanished in a flash
20:38.22LennieHiro ^_ ^?
20:38.26ajuonlinei am one of the Heroes characters
20:38.28Lenniehaha
20:38.29bn2vsgoogle teleport? xD
20:38.30ajuonline:D bingo ;)
20:38.39Lennieor Daphne :P?
20:38.47ajuonlinethink Lennie is kool
20:39.00ajuonlineanyone who watches Heroes is :P
20:39.07Lenniehurray :P
20:39.19MatthewWilkeshehe
20:39.30ajuonlinedid they start Season 4 yet?
20:39.43MatthewWilkesThere's a season 2 and 3?
20:39.47Lennieyes
20:39.54Lennieno season 4 yet
20:40.00Lenniebut season 3 is still running
20:40.09ajuonlinehmmm oh, I am already done with it
20:40.11ajuonlinegiggles
20:40.21Lenniewith 3?
20:40.23Lenniethat's not possible ;P
20:40.27ajuonlinesure?
20:40.31Lennieyes
20:40.35ajuonlinechecks
20:40.37Lenniewhat was the last you saw?
20:40.45Lennienathan in a limo with the president?
20:41.53ajuonlineyeah
20:42.03ajuonlinethats E13
20:42.15Lennieat E18 now
20:42.26ajuonline:O
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20:42.38ajuonline*damn*
20:43.05ajuonlinebut how did you guess I saw that :P
20:43.09ajuonlineLennie: ^ ?
20:43.18LennieI have a power as well
20:43.37ajuonlineawesome! :)
20:43.41LandonI have a power too
20:43.45Landonis oblivious
20:43.49Lennie:D
20:43.53Lennieactually it's quite simple
20:43.58Lennieyou thought season 3 had ended
20:44.07Lennieand I know there was a 2 month gap between E13 and E14
20:44.13Lennieso it was a logical choice :)
20:44.20ajuonlineok
20:44.26ajuonline:)
20:44.27Lennieand actually
20:44.38LennieE14 is named chapter one
20:44.42Lenniebut it's not a new season
20:45.34Lennieso what else do you watch ?
20:45.45Lennieand what brings you to this channel :p
20:46.04ajuonlinei have been in this channel since 1 year now :P
20:46.20ajuonline*god* 1 whole year?
20:46.34ajuonlinei watch TBBT :)
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20:47.02Landononly one year??
20:47.02Landon:P
20:47.09lifeeth|sleepused to watch heroes...now it is so lame :|
20:47.23Landonheh
20:47.36ajuonlinelifeeth|sleep: how can it be lame, when you got superpowers as well. of sleep typing.
20:47.51bn2vslol
20:47.59ajuonlineLandon: is it more for ya? ;)
20:48.11lifeeth|sleepsleeping....slept
20:48.14Landonmaybe 3
20:48.20ajuonline:O
20:48.33LandonI've been heen around since the channel was on slashnet
20:48.44ajuonlinewe should setup a "permanent refugee" channel
20:48.53Landonheh
20:49.35MatthewWilkesLandon: We're not all as cool as you
20:49.45LandonI know :(
20:49.50bn2vsOr as old *runs*
20:49.53bn2vs:p
20:49.57Landon:P
20:50.01LandonI'm only a sopomore
20:50.02MatthewWilkesI didn't get involved until I was invited into sockhoppers half-way through gsoc last year
20:50.06Landonsophomore*
20:50.11MatthewWilkesLandon: How old are you?
20:50.14Landon19
20:50.29MatthewWilkesYouth!
20:50.41Landontold you!
20:50.46ajuonlineok all organisations, who are applying to soc, should wish my on my birthday :P
20:50.51bn2vsi'm younger!!!! xD
20:50.59ajuonlineme*
20:51.10MatthewWilkesI'm 22 and one of the youngest in my community (Plone)
20:51.17ajuonlineso that you all have my wishes :P since the applications start on 9th march, my bday :P
20:51.24ajuonlinei turn 26 fyi!
20:51.44MatthewWilkesSee, that's a respectable age :)
20:51.45ajuonlinedamn, is that Ice age?
20:52.18ecinremembers when he was 19.
20:52.47ajuonlineLennie: what do you do?
20:52.57Lennieo sorry
20:52.59ajuonlineapart from watching Heroes, i.e.
20:53.00Lenniewas doing code review :)
20:53.03LennieTBBT
20:53.04LennieOMG
20:53.07LennieBig Bang Theory :D?
20:53.11ajuonlineyeah
20:53.12Lennie:D
20:53.14Lennieawesome
20:53.24ecinWhere are ya'll from?
20:53.33ajuonlineindia
20:53.36MatthewWilkesUK
20:53.37bn2vsbelgium
20:53.51LennieI'm just north of bn2vs, Netherlands :)
20:54.18bn2vswhere? i live just over the boarder in Hulst :p
20:54.23LennieDelft ^^
20:55.46bn2vsok
20:55.55bn2vsare you a mentor in GSoC?
20:56.39Lenniemaybe
20:56.46Lennieif our organization gets accepted :)
20:56.54bn2vswhich organization?
20:56.58ajuonlinewhich is?
20:57.04LennieI work on the new webapplication for GSoC
20:57.17ajuonlinemelange?
20:57.19Lennieyes
20:57.20summatusmentisLennie: is that really fair?
20:57.28summatusmentislike, you guys have an in
20:57.55ajuonlinean in, what?
20:58.01jpgoelhaha, everybody is on this channel just so we can get an "in"!
20:58.12Lennieajuonline, he's talking about the fact that we basically run GSoC
20:58.31summatusmentisajuonline: yeah :)
20:58.32LennieWe are applying like everybody else summatusmentis
20:58.40summatusmentisI know you are, but still
20:58.47MatthewWilkesI think it's likely that melange will get in.  It's also likely that drupal will get it
20:58.49MatthewWilkesin*
20:58.56jpgoelLennie: I must say, that I would like to see more Dune-themed projects
20:59.04Lenniejpgoel: cool :)
20:59.04MatthewWilkesYou could say that wasn't fair either ;)
20:59.14summatusmentisMatthewWilkes: well, sure
20:59.14ajuonlinei would want to work on Melange!
20:59.19summatusmentisI'm mostly just giving Lennie crap
20:59.25Lennieanyhow back to the topic of tv shows, ajuonline how do you feel about BBT :D
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20:59.35ajuonlineLennie: its the bst show ever ;)
20:59.36Lenniesummatusmentis, you have good reasons too
20:59.37MatthewWilkessummatusmentis: I'm not sure if I approve of that.  Lennie's friendly!
20:59.39Lennie*to
20:59.57summatusmentisMatthewWilkes: so? so is ajuonline and I give him crap
21:00.13ajuonlineputs some horse shit on summatusmentis
21:00.16Lennieajuonline, feel free to help out anyway you can or want
21:00.32ajuonlineLennie: its python , right?
21:00.39Lenniehttp://code.google.com/soc/ #melange
21:00.44summatusmentisajuonline: I live in rural MN, our air always smells like cow poop
21:00.48LenniePython and Django, yes
21:00.53Lennierunning on Google App Engine
21:00.56ajuonlineoh yes, I was ther ein the first #melange meeting i think :)
21:01.11LennieAlso JS and AJAX (not much yet)
21:01.24ajuonlinesummatusmentis: that is not any excuse, i will still throw that on you.
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21:01.30ajuonlineperiod
21:01.38ajuonline:D
21:01.44summatusmentisharsh
21:01.53ajuonlineMatthewWilkes: Lennie i think summatusmentis is just having fun ;)
21:02.05summatusmentisgee, you think? :-P
21:02.24MatthewWilkesLennie: If you can call GAE python
21:02.29ajuonlineshould complain summatusmentis's sister about him
21:02.39MatthewWilkes:)
21:02.42summatusmentisyou know my sister? that's frightening
21:02.47summatusmentisshe's also younger than me
21:02.52LennieMatthewWilkes, the files end in .py :P
21:02.53ajuonline:P
21:02.56MatthewWilkesWhich reminds me, anyone thinking of submitting talks for europython
21:03.10ajuonlineMatthewWilkes: can I talk on SahanaPy there?
21:04.40MatthewWilkesajuonline: *shrug* not my call ;)
21:05.20ajuonlineMatthewWilkes: ok, its in UK :) thanks for letting know ;)
21:06.44Lennieajuonline, seen the last BBT?
21:06.45MatthewWilkesajuonline: Hey, it's part of europe!
21:06.52Lenniepff no it isn't
21:06.57Lennieyou are on your own damn island :)
21:07.16MatthewWilkesLennie: Blame climate change!
21:07.18MatthewWilkesWe didn't used to be
21:07.18ajuonlineMatthewWilkes: it says, the venue is Birmingham UK ?
21:07.21Lennie:D
21:07.21MatthewWilkeswe used to have doggerland
21:07.37LennieMatthewWilkes, I've been there once to Guildford :)
21:07.48LennieI still need to see London, only saw the airport
21:07.53ajuonlineLennie: Lennie till E15, yes.
21:08.00Lenniek
21:08.03Lennieyou missed the last one then
21:08.06bn2vsi'v been to england and scotland many times :p
21:08.10bn2vsnice country
21:08.17MatthewWilkesLennie: Guildford?  Poor man!  I've been there, it was very depressing.
21:08.28LennieMatthewWilkes, mwah
21:08.33MatthewWilkesWhy guildford?
21:08.39LennieMatthewWilkes: Lionhead Studios for a week :)
21:08.50LenniePlaying Fable 2 and what not :D
21:08.57MatthewWilkesbtw : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Doggerland.svg
21:09.00MatthewWilkesah
21:09.06ajuonlineLennie: i will get all of them, tomorrow when my broadband is back up again.
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21:09.20LennieE15 was nice, rockband :P
21:09.30ajuonlinehe he yeah
21:09.42LennieLeonards Mum lol ^^
21:10.09ajuonlineyeah, whatta show :)
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21:11.17LennieI love the lunch scene
21:11.36Lenniewhere she analyzes Howard and Rosh :p
21:12.01ajuonlineI soooo Love Penny :P
21:12.10Lennieshe pwns @ Halo :p
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21:12.28Lennieso who here in this channel wouldn't :D
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21:13.17ajuonline:P
21:13.24ajuonlineshould get to sleep
21:13.32ajuonlineLennie: see you around :)
21:13.35Lenniek
21:13.39Lennienn :)
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