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| 02:45.32 | Beket | Hey all. I know there's an upper bound regarding maximum number of words/application, but what's the golden ration, if any ? |
| 02:45.41 | Beket | ratio* |
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| 02:55.43 | scorche | it depends on too many factors to really give an actual number.. |
| 02:56.33 | scorche | just make sure that you do all they ask you to in the application...some orgs ask that you include certain information in there |
| 02:57.58 | ojwb | it's much like applying for a job - if they ask you to apply in a certain way and you don't, then if there's a big pile of applicants, you fail right away |
| 03:00.04 | Beket | Sure, thanks. |
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| 14:49.21 | Lennie | hi |
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| 14:53.00 | jessezh | hi |
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| 15:26.36 | Lennie | kmac68 ? |
| 15:26.56 | mlankhorst | s/lennie/sid/ |
| 15:27.16 | Lennie | I dont want to be replaced :(O0 |
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| 15:34.17 | straydawg | :( |
| 15:34.32 | Lennie | why the unhappy face? |
| 15:34.42 | Lennie | hi ajuonline btw :) |
| 15:34.54 | summatusmentis | straydawg: cheer up! |
| 15:34.56 | Landon | has an unhappy face |
| 15:35.00 | Landon | I don't know if I'm a junior or not |
| 15:35.01 | straydawg | : |
| 15:35.05 | straydawg | :) |
| 15:35.08 | Landon | and the place that's supposed to tell me is confusing! |
| 15:35.19 | straydawg | Lennie: i was sympathising with you :) |
| 15:35.21 | straydawg | Lennie: (replaced) |
| 15:35.25 | summatusmentis | Landon: what? |
| 15:35.29 | Lennie | straydawg thanks :P |
| 15:35.30 | summatusmentis | how do you not know? |
| 15:35.31 | Landon | summatusmentis: early enrollment time |
| 15:35.37 | Landon | oh |
| 15:35.45 | Landon | I dont know my 'by hours' status |
| 15:35.56 | summatusmentis | Landon: oh, was gonna say |
| 15:36.13 | Landon | juniors and seniors get to have their flags lifted a few weeks earlier iirc |
| 15:36.16 | Landon | so it'd be handy to knoqw |
| 15:36.43 | summatusmentis | true |
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| 15:38.18 | Landon | gives up |
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| 15:46.59 | HanzZ | Hi, I have question about eligibility. In FAQ there is written "As long as you are enrolled in a college or university program as of April 20, 2009, you are eligible to participate in the program". I'm passing leaving exams in grammar school this year, but I will not know if I'm accepted to university on the 20th of April, because I just can't know it in Czech Republic (I will have only applications submitted). Can I participate in SoC or not? thanks for respon |
| 15:46.59 | HanzZ | se |
| 15:49.19 | summatusmentis | uh... I don't know... I would guess that means you're not eligible... when would you find out about being accepted? |
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| 15:51.15 | HanzZ | It depends on university, but it's usually after exams which are usually in May/June... |
| 15:51.37 | summatusmentis | oh yeah, that's well into the start of summer of code |
| 15:52.11 | summatusmentis | you could ask lh, but that sounds like not eligible this year :( |
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| 15:52.57 | HanzZ | strange :) In the USA you know it before 20th of April? :) |
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| 15:54.12 | HanzZ | I think somebody from CZ has participated in the same situation as me last year, but I don't have any contact to him. |
| 15:54.48 | summatusmentis | generally in the US you've got an acceptance letter by that point |
| 15:54.57 | summatusmentis | not always, but generally |
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| 15:55.48 | HanzZ | hm... that's little bit unfair :) but it's up to you :) |
| 15:56.33 | summatusmentis | HanzZ: haha, we don't have exit exams really |
| 15:57.06 | summatusmentis | I mean, each class we take has finals, but we don't have to take an exam to be able to leave secondary |
| 15:57.21 | summatusmentis | do you know the name of the person from CZ last year? |
| 15:57.40 | HanzZ | I have to find |
| 15:57.47 | summatusmentis | LukasT? |
| 15:57.55 | HanzZ | It has been blogged |
| 15:57.57 | HanzZ | w8 |
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| 16:01.39 | summatusmentis | hi Sup3rkiddo |
| 16:01.48 | HanzZ | I think LukasT has been already studying university that time |
| 16:02.07 | summatusmentis | oh, ok |
| 16:02.33 | HanzZ | He's 22 now... :) |
| 16:02.49 | summatusmentis | heh |
| 16:03.44 | summatusmentis | I would ask lh |
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| 16:05.24 | HanzZ | thanks |
| 16:14.01 | Landon | does anyone have a good article on hand about "good website design"" |
| 16:14.20 | Landon | so I can show it to my friend who's trying to redesign my site :\ |
| 16:14.27 | summatusmentis | don't suck :) |
| 16:14.28 | Landon | "<+Lindsay> Landon: why don't you learn flash and do your site as a flash |
| 16:14.41 | Landon | I'm trying to get the principles of "don't suck" across the intertubes :p |
| 16:14.41 | Landon | its hard |
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| 16:16.34 | summatusmentis | http://www.searchenginejournal.com/5-reasons-not-to-use-flash/3949/ |
| 16:16.39 | thebolt | hi |
| 16:17.10 | thebolt | summatusmentis: why do you need 5 reasons? one should be enough.. it sucks and is not compatible :P |
| 16:17.35 | summatusmentis | thebolt: not me, some lady friend of Landon's |
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| 16:18.17 | HanzZ | summatusmentis, btw, do you know in which timezone does lh live? I mean when he is usually here :) |
| 16:18.25 | Landon | (she) |
| 16:18.34 | thebolt | HanzZ: lh is a she, and she lives in california |
| 16:18.36 | Landon | pacific time, so GMT - (8?) |
| 16:18.39 | summatusmentis | lh is she, and she's in california |
| 16:18.54 | summatusmentis | nevermind, I'm slow |
| 16:19.07 | summatusmentis | yeah, GMT-8 |
| 16:19.40 | summatusmentis | as for usually here? I'm not sure on 'usually' |
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| 16:21.42 | HanzZ | thebolt, oh, sorry :) |
| 16:22.08 | HanzZ | ok thank you all :) |
| 16:25.39 | twitter1 | lh never speaks on irc, even though I am online most of the time here. |
| 16:25.52 | twitter1 | never seen her say anything |
| 16:26.20 | HanzZ | ok, so is better to write email. |
| 16:28.11 | thebolt | twitter1: she does, but its been a while ago she was that active |
| 16:29.35 | scorche|sh | lh speaks on IRC quite a bit actually...it just isnt really GSoC time yet |
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| 16:31.06 | HanzZ | is going to theatre |
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| 16:33.08 | ajuonline | hi Lennie |
| 16:33.13 | ajuonline | just got online |
| 16:33.19 | Lennie | hi |
| 16:34.05 | Lennie | LH has been working hard on getting everything ready for GSoC, but I'm sure you'll hear from her more often soon :) |
| 16:34.31 | ajuonline | ~lh |
| 16:34.55 | ibot | i heard lh is amazing, and probably secretly super woman with super human powers |
| 16:35.17 | ajuonline | yAy! |
| 16:35.53 | HanzZ|away | I will be satisfied if she would answer my question :) |
| 16:36.23 | ajuonline | HanzZ|away: i thought you were supposed to be away. |
| 16:36.25 | ajuonline | :D |
| 16:36.41 | ajuonline | HanzZ|away: and lh, is *not* a he. |
| 16:36.52 | ajuonline | oh, i figure, you were already answered |
| 16:37.10 | HanzZ|away | I'm using `she` in the last sentence |
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| 16:37.43 | ajuonline | HanzZ|away: if you want an urgent reply, you could always email. |
| 16:37.46 | Lennie | ibot, I had the pleasure of meeting her twice and I agree :P |
| 16:37.49 | ibot | You had the pleasure of meeting her twice and I agree :P? |
| 16:37.52 | ajuonline | i think she responds to her emails |
| 16:37.58 | HanzZ|away | ajuonline, it's not urgent :) |
| 16:38.16 | HanzZ|away | not yet :) |
| 16:38.20 | HanzZ|away | well... now I |
| 16:38.26 | HanzZ|away | now I'm realy away |
| 16:38.31 | thebolt | Lennie: i concur (after three meetings :) |
| 16:38.34 | Lennie | bye HanzZ|away |
| 16:38.55 | Lennie | thebolt, aha more experienced :P |
| 16:39.24 | thebolt | Lennie: heh yea.. all gsoc mentor summits held so far :) |
| 16:39.30 | Lennie | :) |
| 16:39.36 | Lennie | maybe I'll see you there this year |
| 16:39.43 | Lennie | depending on what happens |
| 16:40.05 | thebolt | well, this year i most probably won't apply as a mentor, but rather take the last chance i have and apply as a student :) |
| 16:40.14 | Lennie | okay |
| 16:40.15 | Lennie | good luck |
| 16:40.44 | Lennie | I'm sure you'll have a good chance since you have 3 years of mentoring experience :D |
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| 19:45.01 | Enlightened | hello |
| 19:45.47 | Enlightened | A question: may i and my friend work on the same project? |
| 19:46.01 | Enlightened | I saw freebsd-gsoc 2008, each student had his own project |
| 19:47.27 | Gurpartap | !faq |
| 19:47.31 | Gurpartap | !faqs |
| 19:47.36 | Gurpartap | ~faq |
| 19:47.37 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 FAQ is here: http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html |
| 19:47.45 | Gurpartap | Enlightened: here you go ^ |
| 19:47.52 | Gurpartap | It's answered there. |
| 19:48.48 | r0bby | sighs |
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| 19:50.54 | Enlightened | Gurpartap, thanks, so you cant, but google can accept two students for one project on their own? |
| 19:51.34 | Enlightened | quite strange. i though that two programmers, who leave not far from each other could do better. |
| 19:51.38 | Gurpartap | only one project with one student. |
| 19:51.47 | ajuonline | puts bucket full of cold water on r0bby |
| 19:52.01 | Enlightened | but what the purpose? |
| 19:52.11 | Enlightened | just interest |
| 19:52.27 | Gurpartap | ~faq |
| 19:52.28 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 FAQ is here: http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html |
| 19:52.47 | Gurpartap | read 1.1 through 1.2 :P |
| 19:52.54 | Gurpartap | 1.3* |
| 19:53.29 | Enlightened | PFFFF |
| 19:53.40 | Enlightened | i am asking about that rule |
| 19:53.47 | Enlightened | 1 student per project |
| 19:56.38 | Gurpartap | A lot of reasons.. I can imagine money sharing issues. |
| 19:57.20 | Enlightened | Gurpartap, ok, we will make two projects at one time ;) |
| 19:57.31 | Enlightened | help is not prohibbited |
| 19:57.33 | Gurpartap | Then if two of them are able to work, why not assign them different tasks for the benefit of the organization. |
| 19:57.45 | Gurpartap | of course not. |
| 19:57.59 | Gurpartap | ;) |
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| 20:00.49 | Enlightened | and one more - there are several slots for organisation |
| 20:01.16 | Enlightened | how do they choose whom to take, if there are more students than slots? |
| 20:07.00 | Gurpartap | Judgement. |
| 20:07.16 | Gurpartap | Each organization has their own criteria for that. |
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| 20:07.52 | Gurpartap | Usually, you current involvement helps. |
| 20:07.56 | Gurpartap | s/you/your/ |
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| 20:19.49 | MatthewWilkes | evenin' all |
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| 20:20.08 | summatusmentis | hi MatthewWilkes |
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| 22:20.41 | d-b | * woops sorry |
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| 22:41.29 | Lennie | Hi |
| 22:41.51 | Landon | ahoy |
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| 22:42.19 | lifeeth|Sleep | Ola! |
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| 23:03.10 | lifeeth|Sleep | sanil, Crystal clear :) |
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| 23:09.31 | mdiggory | Hi, the other day I was inputing out organization into what I thought was the new Melange app and now, ironically, I can't seem to determine the location that was at? Any pointerS? |
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| 23:12.58 | Lennie | socghop.appspot.com ? |
| 23:14.51 | mdiggory | ahh, yesy that was it |
| 23:15.19 | mdiggory | I was going to http://melange-demo.appspot.com/ |
| 23:15.35 | mdiggory | and confused because my accoutn was suddenly empty |
| 23:16.22 | Lennie | hehe |
| 23:16.28 | Lennie | it happens |
| 23:16.32 | ojwb | mdiggory: you realise the socghop one is currently just test data? |
| 23:18.43 | mdiggory | :-) no... I did not... |
| 23:18.49 | mdiggory | silly me... |
| 23:18.52 | ojwb | you're not the first |
| 23:19.10 | ojwb | it does say on the front page, but I think perhaps a bigger warning would help |
| 23:19.11 | mdiggory | entertaining none-the-less |
| 23:19.23 | ojwb | it's good to enter data to test it |
| 23:19.42 | ojwb | but it's not good if people think it's "real" |
| 23:19.56 | mdiggory | So... until then, should we be back on the old site managing things for 009 there? |
| 23:20.12 | ojwb | no, aiui, this will be used this year |
| 23:20.17 | ojwb | but it's still being tested |
| 23:20.38 | ojwb | IIC, ord applications start on 9th |
| 23:20.40 | ojwb | org |
| 23:20.49 | ojwb | IIRC |
| 23:20.51 | mdiggory | k, feel free to use me as a guinea pig |
| 23:23.34 | Lennie | accepting all applications atm :) |
| 23:24.49 | mdiggory | Hooray I just received notification ;-) |
| 23:25.14 | Lennie | hurray the bulk accpetance works :P |
| 23:28.02 | *** join/#gsoc pen (i=c011d2c7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7ba06864c17ad8ff) |
| 23:28.06 | mdiggory | edited my organizations info successfully |
| 23:28.21 | mdiggory | Recieved invitation to be admin... |
| 23:31.07 | *** part/#gsoc d-b (n=alias@unaffiliated/d-b) |
| 23:31.28 | mdiggory | ok... seems cool... no "hiccups" |
| 23:35.11 | Lennie | just wait till the 9th |
| 23:35.16 | Lennie | then it will fail as usual |
| 23:35.23 | Lennie | because it is software :D |
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| 23:37.27 | Lennie | nah, tbh 9th should be fine |
| 23:37.36 | Lennie | expect there is 30 min downtime due to GAE maitenance :) |
| 23:37.42 | Lennie | *except |
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| 23:44.08 | r0bby | lh: o/ |
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| 23:45.03 | *** part/#gsoc kendrick (n=kendrick@69.12.161.249) |
| 23:45.28 | r0bby | is the app gonna move to code.google.com ? |
| 23:45.39 | r0bby | or remain at soc-ghop.appspot.com? |
| 23:46.53 | r0bby | http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/userguide |
| 23:46.55 | r0bby | bug! |
| 23:47.00 | Lennie | it will remail at socghop, but the code side might link it through |
| 23:47.12 | Lennie | 1 sec I''ll fix it for ya |
| 23:47.16 | r0bby | <p>Many thanks to James Crook for his help in creating this documentation.</p> |
| 23:47.19 | r0bby | last line :) |
| 23:47.38 | Lennie | yeah |
| 23:47.41 | Lennie | I told him that |
| 23:47.51 | Lennie | I thought you were refering to someting else :P\ |
| 23:47.52 | Lennie | so nm |
| 23:47.56 | r0bby | another one |
| 23:48.04 | Lennie | it says D |
| 23:48.08 | Lennie | where it should say ID |
| 23:48.25 | r0bby | after "Creating Your Site Wide User Profile" |
| 23:48.32 | r0bby | do a ctrl+f for < |
| 23:48.43 | r0bby | (that character shouldn't appear on the page |
| 23:48.50 | Lennie | yes that one has been spotted too :D |
| 23:49.16 | Lennie | there might be more in there we havent spotted yet :D |
| 23:49.24 | Lennie | so keep looking and you might win a prize :D |
| 23:49.32 | r0bby | bah too tired |
| 23:50.07 | r0bby | did google's lawyers write the agreement |
| 23:50.29 | r0bby | smells lawyers |
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| 23:51.38 | Lennie | I think so |
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| 23:52.00 | Lennie | they'll have to, since you dont want someone to sue you :P |
| 23:52.10 | Lennie | so you have to cover up every inch :D |
| 23:55.15 | r0bby | yeh |
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| 23:55.34 | Lennie | I fixed the typo's you mentioned r0bby, since james or LH didnt do that yet |
| 23:56.40 | r0bby | perfect :) |
| 23:56.49 | r0bby | I should hack @ Melange |
| 23:56.57 | r0bby | has no idea how to do half the shit :( |
| 23:57.01 | Lennie | go ahead |
| 23:57.07 | Lennie | we'll be happy if you find anything |
| 23:57.08 | r0bby | i may |
| 23:57.15 | Lennie | or actually we wont be |
| 23:57.21 | Lennie | but still as long as you tell us we are :P |