| 00:00.09 | icy | smtms: yea guess so |
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| 00:02.28 | lh | leaves for the day |
| 00:02.39 | brlcad | lh: rest well! |
| 00:02.44 | lh | everyone have a relaxing weekend. i'll be around later. |
| 00:02.46 | borja | waves to lh |
| 00:02.50 | lh | brlcad: thanks. having dinner with mrs_spearce |
| 00:02.56 | lh | borja: thanks again for the rockin' post |
| 00:03.01 | brlcad | gives lh some scotch to top off the night |
| 00:03.05 | borja | blushes again |
| 00:03.09 | lh | brlcad: nice. thank you so much. |
| 00:03.17 | brlcad | lh: hugs and hellos to mrs_spearce |
| 00:03.18 | lh | borja: don't blush that is an awesome post |
| 00:03.24 | lh | brlcad: will pass along |
| 00:03.46 | borja | embraces the awesomeness |
| 00:04.42 | homunq | borja: url? |
| 00:05.07 | borja | homunq: not public yet; to appear soon on Google Open Source blog |
| 00:05.38 | homunq | !deadline |
| 00:05.39 | socinfo | Error: "deadline" is not a valid command. |
| 00:05.45 | homunq | ~deadline |
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| 00:10.04 | brlcad | ~gsoctimeline |
| 00:10.05 | ibot | methinks gsoctimeline is http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html#0_1_timeline_5354032302481437_ |
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| 00:15.16 | glaksmono | any wordpress mentors? |
| 00:18.04 | homunq | glaksmono: #wordpress-dev |
| 00:18.28 | glaksmono | homunq: ty :) |
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| 00:25.27 | lil_Toady | "We expect slightly fewer organizations to take part in 2009, as we've capped the number of student participants at 1,000." |
| 00:25.40 | danderson | indeed |
| 00:25.42 | lil_Toady | does that mean not all student application will be accepted? |
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| 00:25.50 | Catfish_Man | most students will be rejected |
| 00:25.51 | lil_Toady | applications even |
| 00:25.53 | Catfish_Man | same as last year |
| 00:26.04 | danderson | well, as in all years |
| 00:26.15 | jasebo | now that the cutoff has passed, any ideas on the total numbers of organisation applications? |
| 00:26.16 | danderson | the best applications get selected |
| 00:26.25 | danderson | not just the 1000 first |
| 00:26.26 | lil_Toady | and what's the criterias to see who would pass and who will not? |
| 00:26.37 | homunq | jasebo: we were told 395 total |
| 00:26.52 | jasebo | thx homunq |
| 00:27.00 | MatthewWilkes | lil_Toady: That's up to the org you apply to |
| 00:27.09 | danderson | lil_Toady: i'm ircing from my android phone right now, but I'm happy to explain when i get to a real machine |
| 00:27.20 | homunq | !learn numapps is 395 |
| 00:27.20 | socinfo | (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 00:27.26 | MatthewWilkes | lil_Toady: Each accepted org gets a total number of apps they're allowed to accept |
| 00:27.29 | homunq | !learn numapps as 395 |
| 00:27.29 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 00:27.30 | lil_Toady | android haha |
| 00:27.42 | jasebo | ~numapps |
| 00:27.55 | danderson | !numapps |
| 00:27.55 | socinfo | "numapps" is 395 |
| 00:28.47 | cpayan | 395 mentoring org apps? |
| 00:28.54 | danderson | yes |
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| 00:29.16 | jasebo | and is that more or less than last year? |
| 00:29.36 | danderson | less |
| 00:29.43 | danderson | but also less spam apps |
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| 00:30.23 | manus_eiffel | how many last year? |
| 00:30.39 | smtms | "spam apps"? like complete garbage? |
| 00:30.40 | manus_eiffel | total and real total (i.e. without spam apps) |
| 00:30.57 | danderson | can't remember honestly |
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| 00:31.09 | danderson | just relaying the facts lh gave out |
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| 00:31.24 | danderson | but less than 2x more |
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| 00:31.39 | danderson | so somewhere between 400 and 800 |
| 00:31.49 | danderson | if that makes any sense |
| 00:32.51 | homunq | !numapps |
| 00:32.51 | socinfo | "numapps" is This year there are 395 mentoring org apps. That's less than the 500 last year, but there's also much less spam . |
| 00:33.08 | danderson | aha. |
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| 00:33.16 | arma | that's a huge number. nice. |
| 00:34.46 | jasebo | I just logged in to socghop.appspot.com and my application is missing.. anyone know what's up there? |
| 00:35.32 | jasebo | has it been taken offline for a while? |
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| 00:35.32 | jasebo | there doesn't seem to be any link at all to "List my applications" |
| 00:36.55 | Dragonking | manus_eiffel: According to my logs: last year 505 application, including 20 spam |
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| 00:38.15 | jasebo | I'm feeling really nervous now |
| 00:38.18 | jasebo | anyone? |
| 00:38.23 | Catfish_Man | nope |
| 00:38.30 | Catfish_Man | sick, annoyed, and having fun optimizing |
| 00:38.32 | Catfish_Man | but not nervous |
| 00:38.53 | jasebo | nervous because my organisation application is no longer listed at socghop.appspot.com site |
| 00:43.22 | arma | jasebo: there's a thread on the mentors list, Re: list organization applications link is gone? |
| 00:43.32 | arma | jasebo: the summary is 'don't worry' |
| 00:43.45 | jasebo | oh, ok :-) |
| 00:44.26 | jasebo | I shall stop worrying |
| 00:44.40 | arma | you can still go to the url directly. it's just that the link is missing for now. |
| 00:47.45 | jasebo | thanks arma, it was not the sort of wakeup I was expecting :-D |
| 00:48.02 | jasebo | now I can have coffee, and read the paper |
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| 01:29.28 | zooko | arma! Hey man. |
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| 01:32.50 | mdc | is enjoying the start of his weekend |
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| 01:34.07 | thebolt | Hey mdc! |
| 01:34.12 | thebolt | been a while, how do you do? |
| 01:35.06 | mdc | hi thebolt! :) Things are going nicely :) |
| 01:35.13 | mdc | And with you? |
| 01:36.07 | thebolt | ups and downs.. mostly up this week at least though :) |
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| 01:37.20 | mdc | I'm glad to hear it thebolt :) |
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| 01:38.21 | mdc | There are a number of potential GSoC students in our IRC channel already :) |
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| 01:42.37 | thebolt | mdc: nice.. ours as well.. me included ;) |
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| 01:53.09 | MatthewWilkes | urges uk people to call 03457910910 and donate to comic relief |
| 01:55.36 | ojwb | there's an 0345 now? |
| 01:56.59 | ojwb | ah, it's like 0845, etc but actually at geographic rates |
| 01:57.56 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: Yup, so free minutes on phones |
| 01:58.02 | MatthewWilkes | (mobile ones) |
| 01:58.04 | MatthewWilkes | mobiles, if you will |
| 02:09.14 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: Actually, iirc 03 numbers used to be used for mobiles and pagers, before the "big change" that added initial 1's |
| 02:09.57 | jasebo | what's comic relief? |
| 02:10.22 | danderson | ooh, Comic Relief is today? |
| 02:11.17 | ojwb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Relief |
| 02:11.48 | jasebo | how about Sound Relief? http://www.nova100.com.au/site/view/sound_relief.aspx |
| 02:11.54 | jasebo | that's today too :-) |
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| 02:19.09 | MatthewWilkes | danderson: Yup, £57 million raised at the last count |
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| 02:23.22 | Kraln | lh: so what's the final count? |
| 02:23.42 | jasebo | 395 is what I heard |
| 02:23.51 | jasebo | !numapps |
| 02:23.51 | socinfo | "numapps" is This year there are 395 mentoring org apps. That's less than the 500 last year, but there's also much less spam . |
| 02:24.10 | Kraln | cool. |
| 02:24.30 | Kraln | I do hope my organization gets picked, we need the help =) |
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| 02:24.47 | jasebo | what's your org Kraln? |
| 02:25.23 | Kraln | devkitPro. it's a bunch of stuff related to console homebrewing. I managed to line up a hardware sponsor, so we can provide students with devkits and stuff |
| 02:25.35 | jasebo | cool |
| 02:25.49 | icy | would love to have a wiikit |
| 02:25.58 | jasebo | would too |
| 02:26.51 | Kraln | you don't need any special hardware for a wii to run homebrew, just need the wii =) |
| 02:27.31 | icy | it already runs linux, doesn't it? |
| 02:27.58 | jasebo | last I checked you needed some game to get the homebrew going :-( |
| 02:28.18 | icy | at least they showed homebrew code running on it at the 25c3 |
| 02:28.29 | danderson | is the last known attack to boot linux in wii mode still a hardhack? |
| 02:28.32 | Kraln | icy: it runs the gamecube linux |
| 02:28.37 | Kraln | danderson: no |
| 02:28.56 | danderson | Kraln: how is it now? |
| 02:29.05 | Kraln | jasebo: it's easier if you have twilight princess. not impossible without |
| 02:29.26 | Kraln | danderson: you can soft exploit it, and then launch linux from the channels menu. |
| 02:29.28 | danderson | Last I saw it was the trailing end of the xbox360 talk at 25c3, where it gets booted through some neat hardware fizzing |
| 02:29.34 | danderson | shiny. |
| 02:29.39 | codestr0m | so how many people applied after the deadline since it got extended a couple hours? |
| 02:29.47 | danderson | !396 |
| 02:29.48 | socinfo | Error: "396" is not a valid command. |
| 02:29.49 | danderson | !395 |
| 02:29.49 | socinfo | Error: "395" is not a valid command. |
| 02:29.51 | codestr0m | what difference did that 3 hours make? |
| 02:29.51 | danderson | gaaah |
| 02:29.53 | danderson | !numapps |
| 02:29.53 | socinfo | "numapps" is This year there are 395 mentoring org apps. That's less than the 500 last year, but there's also much less spam . |
| 02:29.56 | icy | the guys who did that hack said they have plenty of other ways to exploit it should nintendo start fixing it ;) |
| 02:30.10 | danderson | heh |
| 02:30.19 | danderson | so, so far only two models have proven effective |
| 02:30.49 | codestr0m | danderson: do you remember what lh said it was at for the original cutoff? |
| 02:30.50 | danderson | the xbox360, only one hypervisor bug, complex timing attack required if upgraded firmware |
| 02:31.03 | icy | codestr0m: some 350 |
| 02:31.10 | danderson | and the ps3, that ships linux out of the box, since nobody has cared to break its security system as a result :P |
| 02:31.25 | Landon | heh I thought they broke the ps3 hypervisor |
| 02:31.26 | codestr0m | icy: I thought more than that.. I'll read up and try to find |
| 02:31.38 | Landon | oh, I think I'm reading that wrong |
| 02:31.46 | danderson | Landon: The only one I'm aware of is the xbox360's hypervisor |
| 02:32.00 | danderson | and even then, the efuse upgrade mechanism prevents downgrading to a vulnerable version |
| 02:32.10 | icy | correct |
| 02:32.16 | Landon | danderson: I'm talking about the hypervisor restricting gfx on the ps3 |
| 02:32.24 | danderson | unless you do a timing attack on the initial firmware hash checks to brute-force a new hash value for a downgrade |
| 02:32.27 | danderson | irc |
| 02:32.36 | danderson | +i |
| 02:32.56 | danderson | which puts it well past the realm of the casually feasible |
| 02:32.59 | danderson | unlike the xbox 1 :P |
| 02:33.06 | Landon | heh |
| 02:33.18 | Landon | what's not casually feasible about the xbox 1 ;] |
| 02:33.29 | icy | the x360 and ps3 are uninteresting for me, I want a wii to be a little server :) |
| 02:33.31 | Landon | unless that was an all software hack? |
| 02:33.41 | danderson | "Um, yeah, just plug in a flash here, short out an address line, and it boots off the LPC bus on whatever you want" |
| 02:33.44 | icy | low energy footprint \o/ |
| 02:33.58 | Landon | danderson: plenty of other ways :P solderless kits, etc |
| 02:34.06 | Landon | hotswapping the hard drive |
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| 02:34.13 | danderson | Landon: the solderless kits are LPC bus |
| 02:34.18 | Landon | I'll agree those aren't that casual |
| 02:34.26 | Landon | but I'm not sure how casual the 360 method is |
| 02:34.33 | danderson | the bus the board boots off of in factory, to flash the production flash chip |
| 02:34.39 | danderson | they didn't disable it |
| 02:34.49 | danderson | so, just plug in a flash with whatever the hell you want, boot, and voila |
| 02:34.53 | icy | nintendo had (has?) that too ;) |
| 02:35.04 | icy | simple debug port left over |
| 02:35.07 | danderson | the xbox 360 is much, much, much harder |
| 02:35.26 | codestr0m | icy: "(20:55:55) lh: 385 apps" so if there's 395 apps now it means maybe only 10 people where messed up by gcal or slackers |
| 02:35.27 | danderson | in the factory, they burn an efuse to switch it to production mode, disabling all the debug ports |
| 02:35.35 | icy | codestr0m: oh ok |
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| 02:35.50 | danderson | the box boots off a ROM and RAM inside the CPU dye |
| 02:35.53 | Kraln | danderson: you can exploit the dash on the xbox 1 also |
| 02:35.56 | codestr0m | imho I don't think it was worth extending the deadline for those not careful enough.. even if I know it would hurt a project I really like |
| 02:36.01 | Kraln | danderson: cpu die? |
| 02:36.27 | danderson | Kraln: inside the cpu enclosure. No external bus to snoop. Have to disassemble the CPU to get to it. |
| 02:36.34 | jasebo | codest0m: I was asleep when the deadline got extended... what was the reasoning? |
| 02:36.39 | Kraln | yes, I know. you said 'dye' |
| 02:36.42 | danderson | oh |
| 02:36.43 | danderson | oops |
| 02:36.46 | danderson | anyway |
| 02:36.51 | danderson | epic security system |
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| 02:37.16 | Kraln | more-epic. except that the disc authentication is in the dvd firmware and that's hackable |
| 02:37.21 | Kraln | (oops) |
| 02:37.22 | danderson | encrypted/hashed memory, hypervisor, efuse-locked upgrades, per-box flash encryption key burned into the CPU... |
| 02:37.24 | icy | danderson: yea and all that to prevent homebrew? wtf |
| 02:37.32 | danderson | icy: no, it's to prevent piracy |
| 02:37.37 | Kraln | icy: to prevent piracy. |
| 02:37.43 | danderson | but it has the side-effect of locking out homebrew and linux |
| 02:37.45 | Kraln | they encourage homebrew. actually. |
| 02:37.46 | icy | well |
| 02:37.47 | codestr0m | jasebo: some mistake in gcal or I don't really know the details.. I just know people couldn't tell time |
| 02:37.49 | icy | it doesn't. :D |
| 02:37.54 | jasebo | lol |
| 02:37.55 | danderson | meaning that piracy/homebrew/linux hackers all work towards the same goal |
| 02:38.06 | Kraln | danderson: they don't lock out homebrew. you can dev for xbox 360 with their devkit. last I checked you could do it for free for a eyar |
| 02:38.07 | Kraln | year* |
| 02:38.07 | danderson | and become much more powerful (especially the linux hackers, who are mildly insane) |
| 02:38.22 | danderson | Kraln: so they don't lock you out for a year. |
| 02:38.26 | danderson | After that, fuck you and pay up |
| 02:38.30 | Kraln | =p |
| 02:38.32 | danderson | not what I had in mind :) |
| 02:38.44 | icy | Kraln: that XDNA stuff? |
| 02:38.47 | icy | or what it's called |
| 02:38.50 | Kraln | danderson: mildly? they got linux running on a gba. that's an arm7 with no MMU and a paltry amount of slow memory, and six input buttons |
| 02:38.54 | Kraln | icy: yeah, XNAs |
| 02:39.09 | Landon | I thought that stuff was free |
| 02:39.11 | danderson | Kraln: getting linux running on that is a waste of time imo |
| 02:39.15 | Landon | but $99/yr if you wanted to distribute |
| 02:39.18 | danderson | (plus, it'd have to be uclinux if there's no MMU) |
| 02:39.19 | Kraln | danderson: tell me about it |
| 02:39.42 | codestr0m | danderson: I know this is an adult place, but at least *** profanities.. I don't personally care, but others who read may.. (I don't know the general tone here.. someone slap me if I'm wrong) |
| 02:39.59 | Kraln | anyway, the gba/ds/gc/wii/psp/(and some other misc things) toolchain and related projects could really use the gsoc boost =) |
| 02:40.15 | danderson | codestr0m: honestly, in today's society, 3yo swear more than I do |
| 02:40.34 | Kraln | also, for fucks sake, this is the internet. |
| 02:40.38 | jasebo | yeah, don't say m****soft around here |
| 02:40.42 | Landon | heh |
| 02:40.44 | danderson | I do try to keep it down here though |
| 02:40.46 | icy | haha |
| 02:40.48 | danderson | but sometimes one slips through |
| 02:40.54 | codestr0m | danderson: I don't know which society you live in.. maybe I should go back to my eu timezone |
| 02:40.59 | Catfish_Man | jasebo: M****y is worse |
| 02:41.01 | Landon | we do have a more "liberal" channel created because of similar issues last year, ##gsoc (completely unofficial though |
| 02:41.05 | jasebo | fair call though |
| 02:41.07 | danderson | codestr0m: I am in am eu timezone. |
| 02:41.15 | Landon | Catfish_Man: what do you have against maggy :( |
| 02:41.15 | Kraln | eu has more than one timezone =p |
| 02:41.16 | codestr0m | and yes. I fully agree with jasebo.. no say the M* word |
| 02:41.31 | Landon | I think she's a fine, upstanding woman! :P |
| 02:41.36 | danderson | mitochondria? |
| 02:43.00 | danderson | anyway, on the topic, if you want to see something moving and funny at the same time, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsHk9WC7fnQ |
| 02:43.07 | cpayan | Landon, "This channel is for swearing" that's pretty funny |
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| 04:06.34 | glaksmono | hello everybody |
| 04:07.05 | glaksmono | any mentors in LA area who would like to become a guest speaker in the GSoC info session at CSULA? |
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| 04:09.42 | JonCruz | I'm in OC, but might count as a backup guy |
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| 04:11.32 | joeyadams | Are the mentor applications publicly available? |
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| 04:14.14 | ojwb | joeyadams: no-ish |
| 04:14.29 | ojwb | if you know or can guess the link_id, you can look at the "public view" |
| 04:14.59 | ojwb | assuming you mean "org applications" that is |
| 04:15.28 | JonCruz | hmmm... am I going to need yet another id this year? New thing it is? |
| 04:15.45 | JonCruz | checks the calendar |
| 04:15.50 | JonCruz | drat. Not the 18th yet. |
| 04:15.57 | JonCruz | time's reeeeeaaaaaly slow |
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| 04:17.49 | jasebo | the org applications didn't ask for names of mentors |
| 04:18.36 | ojwb | JonCruz: you log in to melange with your google account |
| 04:18.49 | ojwb | so no new account |
| 04:19.37 | ojwb | you need to fill in a short "link_id" but I don't think you need to remember it |
| 04:20.11 | glaksmono | if you're a mentor in the Los Angeles area, i'll be hosting GSoC info session.. please contact me if you're interested to become our guest speaker ;) |
| 04:20.56 | JonCruz | ahhh... "melange" sign in, and not quite single-sign-in |
| 04:21.19 | JonCruz | Since I wasn't doing our group application this year, I'd not logged into the new system yet. |
| 04:22.19 | joeyadams | ojwb> Okay, thanks |
| 04:22.37 | TaoChing | Can the mentoring orgs know how many gsoc proposals I have sent and to which orgs? |
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| 04:23.33 | thiago_home | no |
| 04:23.36 | ojwb | TaoChing: not sure, but you should go for quality not quantity |
| 04:23.46 | Catfish_Man | not directly, but we can ask other orgs |
| 04:23.47 | thiago_home | they will know if other organisations allocate a mentor for you |
| 04:23.56 | thiago_home | that's to avoid conflicts |
| 04:24.21 | ojwb | they can certainly ask you if you have, and if you lie, there's a reasonable chance you'll get caught out |
| 04:25.08 | glaksmono | if you're a mentor in the Los Angeles area, i'll be hosting GSoC info session.. please contact me if you're interested to become our guest speaker ;) |
| 04:25.33 | ojwb | glaksmono: you don't need to reask every 5 minutes... |
| 04:26.01 | glaksmono | ojwb: roger that! |
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| 04:31.00 | ESphynx | is in the Ottawa rea if you're doing any GSoC info sessions there :P |
| 04:33.47 | cseong | /j pentaho |
| 04:33.51 | cseong | ops sry |
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| 04:58.08 | skiquel | Hello |
| 04:58.09 | skiquel | =] |
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| 04:58.52 | summatusmentis | hi skiquel |
| 04:59.29 | skiquel | what project are you from summatusmentis ? :) |
| 04:59.40 | summatusmentis | I'm an interested student currently |
| 04:59.47 | skiquel | ah |
| 04:59.57 | summatusmentis | assuming OpenAFS gets accepted again, I'll be applying there |
| 05:00.00 | skiquel | what GSoC project are you thinking of? (apache, drupal, ) |
| 05:00.01 | skiquel | ohhh |
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| 05:00.40 | summatusmentis | worked with them last summer, enjoyed it (with minor amounts of tweaking out) |
| 05:01.06 | skiquel | tweaking out, LOL |
| 05:01.36 | summatusmentis | yeah, I get stressed, goals become infinitely harder to meet, I break down, sleep |
| 05:01.41 | summatusmentis | next day, I'm mostly ok |
| 05:01.42 | skiquel | oh |
| 05:01.51 | summatusmentis | it happens occassionaly, nothing major :P |
| 05:02.11 | skiquel | well i hope your guys make it in |
| 05:02.16 | summatusmentis | me too |
| 05:02.20 | skiquel | file system |
| 05:02.23 | skiquel | so it's C? |
| 05:02.28 | summatusmentis | yes, very much C |
| 05:02.42 | skiquel | is it in linux kernel yet? :x |
| 05:02.46 | skiquel | or not that kind of FS? |
| 05:02.55 | summatusmentis | well, that kind of FS, but kindof? |
| 05:02.57 | skiquel | it says distributed |
| 05:03.04 | summatusmentis | it is |
| 05:03.21 | summatusmentis | was originally an IBM project, then open sourced under the IBM public license |
| 05:03.31 | summatusmentis | which is incompatible with GPL |
| 05:03.33 | skiquel | graceful degradation |
| 05:03.34 | skiquel | ah |
| 05:03.51 | summatusmentis | therefore, they end up tracking kernel releases |
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| 05:04.28 | skiquel | www.twitter.com/planetsoc |
| 05:04.32 | skiquel | we're working on our site |
| 05:04.46 | skiquel | we have an elite group of web engineer monkeys hard at work |
| 05:04.57 | summatusmentis | my project last year with them attempted to write some functionality into the GPL implementation that would allow for greater compatibility, but the project was far too large and my skillset wasn't there enough |
| 05:05.07 | skiquel | ahh |
| 05:05.12 | skiquel | you're better now of course? |
| 05:05.43 | summatusmentis | yes, I have a better handle on C, and my planned proposal is a much smaller scope |
| 05:06.13 | summatusmentis | so, kAFS is the in kernel implementation, still not fully functional |
| 05:07.00 | skiquel | ahh |
| 05:07.09 | skiquel | im about to sleep |
| 05:07.13 | skiquel | see you around |
| 05:07.41 | summatusmentis | sleep well |
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| 05:52.10 | ajuonline | good morning |
| 05:52.45 | Huy | good afternoon |
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| 05:54.15 | jasebo | good afternoon :) |
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| 05:55.33 | Huy | hi jasebo, where are you from ? |
| 05:55.45 | eeeJZA | hi I am a bit nervous because the timeline is off already |
| 05:55.56 | jasebo | I'm in Melbourne Australia |
| 05:56.06 | eeeJZA | I wonder if I didnt miss anything, I already list my organization, but I havent got any 'approval' |
| 05:56.18 | eeeJZA | and I havent submit the tasks |
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| 05:56.30 | jasebo | if you've got your application in, then it's just waiting time for the next 5 days |
| 05:56.31 | eeeJZA | I wonder if I need to submit the tasks before the deadline too |
| 05:56.44 | Raim | eeeJZA: what do you mean by tasks? your ideas page? |
| 05:56.50 | jasebo | you should have an ideas page somewhere, definitely |
| 05:56.51 | eeeJZA | yes |
| 05:57.04 | jasebo | so that the google people can see it while they're assessing (I assume) |
| 05:57.16 | jasebo | Huy: where are you? |
| 05:57.52 | eeeJZA | jasebo, I only list the organization and fill out the forms, I didnt really know where to put up the 'ideas' no link after I filled out the application. |
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| 05:58.20 | Huy | I'm in HoChiMinh city, VietNam |
| 05:58.28 | jasebo | ah,you're just up north :-) |
| 05:58.59 | jasebo | eeeJZA, if you didn't put a link to an ideas page in your application, then they won't know where to look |
| 05:59.16 | jasebo | best bet would be to put a link on your sites home page to a GSoC Ideas Page |
| 05:59.36 | jasebo | and then hope they do some exploring ;-) |
| 05:59.40 | eeeJZA | jasebo, I put all the link the asked me ont he form |
| 05:59.50 | ojwb | there was a field for the "ideas" page |
| 05:59.52 | eeeJZA | including to our wiki |
| 06:00.01 | jasebo | there you go then :-) |
| 06:00.09 | ojwb | under the student application form IIRC |
| 06:01.13 | jasebo | get those ideas listed then! Sooner the better. |
| 06:01.34 | eeeJZA | http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project/Effort |
| 06:01.40 | Huy | jasebo: what project do you want to participate in ? |
| 06:01.57 | jasebo | my project is LimeSurvey |
| 06:02.10 | eeeJZA | ojwb, Iam not a student, I fill out the organization form |
| 06:02.27 | ojwb | eeeJZA: I'm talking about the org form |
| 06:02.37 | eeeJZA | ojwb, ah ok |
| 06:02.46 | ojwb | there was an "tinymce" editor field for the student application template |
| 06:02.51 | ojwb | in the org form |
| 06:03.31 | Huy | ah, I used to playing around with it |
| 06:03.35 | eeeJZA | ok, so they will notify me by email I suppose if my organization is approved. |
| 06:03.45 | Huy | very nice survey tool |
| 06:03.51 | glaksmono | ttyl guys later.. i gtg work now.. thanks a lot guys.. Jon would be our guest speaker in GSoC info talk at CSULA |
| 06:03.54 | jasebo | thanks Huy :-) |
| 06:03.54 | glaksmono | anybody else interested? |
| 06:03.58 | jasebo | we're hoping to get lots better |
| 06:05.52 | jasebo | what project are you with Huy? |
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| 06:06.44 | Huy | it's a subproject of Apache |
| 06:06.54 | Huy | Apache ODE |
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| 06:08.33 | jasebo | I haven't heard of it.. just read the intro on the website, it looks cool |
| 06:10.08 | Huy | jasebo: not too cool, but it's the closest one to what i'm studying :D |
| 06:10.31 | Huy | WS, modeling, debugger... |
| 06:11.43 | jasebo | lol.. it's cool in a web-applications sense |
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| 06:53.46 | glaksmono | i'm back hehe.. |
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| 06:54.22 | glaksmono | any mentors around los Angeles would be interested to be guest speaker for the GSoC info event that i host at CSULA? |
| 06:54.28 | glaksmono | anyone here? |
| 06:54.46 | glaksmono | just became so quiet.. |
| 06:54.51 | jasebo | here, as in the IRC channel, or LA? |
| 06:55.05 | glaksmono | IRC channel :P |
| 06:55.21 | jasebo | I'm here |
| 06:55.24 | jasebo | :-D |
| 06:55.40 | glaksmono | :D, so what are you up to with GSoC..? |
| 06:56.10 | jasebo | I made an application for my organisation |
| 06:56.17 | jasebo | Limesurvey |
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| 06:57.21 | glaksmono | nice |
| 06:57.25 | jasebo | how about you? |
| 06:57.28 | glaksmono | i have never heard of limesurvey |
| 06:57.35 | glaksmono | i'm thinking in applying to Wordpress |
| 07:00.27 | glaksmono | btw, is survey and voting the same? |
| 07:00.46 | jasebo | kind of, yeah |
| 07:01.21 | jasebo | http://docs.limesurvey.org/tiki-index.php?page=Limesurvey+GSoC+2009 |
| 07:01.53 | glaksmono | nice.. i've been loking for this type of software before, but i couldn't find anything with term Open Source Voting System |
| 07:02.33 | jasebo | depends what sort of voting you want |
| 07:02.49 | jasebo | for example, I wouldn't run the US Presidential Election with LimeSurvey :-D |
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| 07:03.44 | glaksmono | hahahaha |
| 07:04.00 | jasebo | although... given the 2000 election... |
| 07:04.01 | glaksmono | no, it's faculty of the year survey :P |
| 07:04.09 | glaksmono | btw, why not..? |
| 07:04.12 | JonCruz | some actual US Presidential Election stuff was at SCALE fwiw |
| 07:04.18 | glaksmono | it might be even more secure than real president election stuff |
| 07:04.26 | glaksmono | actually that's a good idea |
| 07:04.27 | glaksmono | sigh.. |
| 07:04.40 | jasebo | we used LimeSurvey for the Verified Voting Foundation in 2004 to track election irregularities |
| 07:04.44 | glaksmono | u know, i'm always thinking that Open Security means super secure lol.. |
| 07:04.51 | glaksmono | nice.. |
| 07:04.52 | jasebo | I was a bit horrified |
| 07:05.10 | jasebo | being from Australia, where we have a single electoral authority and this crazy system of paper voting |
| 07:05.25 | jasebo | which is very hard to stuff up |
| 07:05.48 | JonCruz | a monkey can alter results of a Diebold system |
| 07:05.51 | JonCruz | Literally |
| 07:05.54 | JonCruz | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:06.33 | jasebo | yeah.. if they ever try and introduce voting machines in Australia, I'll be out marching the streets |
| 07:06.34 | glaksmono | hmm.. what is it trying to track..? |
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| 07:06.40 | glaksmono | election irregularities as in..? |
| 07:06.46 | jasebo | unless it's LimeSurvey, of course :-) |
| 07:07.09 | jasebo | things like machines rebooting and losing all their votes, people being refused the vote |
| 07:07.18 | jasebo | all the issues that came up in 2000 |
| 07:07.33 | jasebo | they had volunteers around the country outside polling booths |
| 07:07.38 | jasebo | then recording the issues in limesurvey |
| 07:07.49 | glaksmono | you guys didn't make it last year? |
| 07:07.52 | jasebo | which then gave live realtime information about the accuracy and problems of the voting system |
| 07:07.57 | glaksmono | or didn't apply? |
| 07:08.04 | jasebo | we applied, but weren't selected |
| 07:08.11 | glaksmono | ah.. i c.. |
| 07:08.40 | glaksmono | is wishing luck for LimeSurvey |
| 07:08.51 | jasebo | thanks :-) |
| 07:09.48 | ajuonline | yo jasebo ! :) |
| 07:10.04 | jasebo | hi ajuonline |
| 07:10.30 | ajuonline | jasebo: how are you doing? |
| 07:10.32 | amit8-88 | hi ajuonline! |
| 07:11.00 | jasebo | great thanks ajuonline, how about you? |
| 07:11.08 | ajuonline | jasebo: great :) |
| 07:11.24 | ajuonline | amit8-88: its ok to tell that we are room mates, lol :D |
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| 07:11.39 | amit8-88 | lol |
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| 07:12.05 | jasebo | lol |
| 07:12.29 | ajuonline | flat mates, more precise, adjacent rooms |
| 07:12.57 | jasebo | ah, well if you're in seperate rooms then IRC chatting is ok :-) |
| 07:13.01 | ajuonline | i have a feeling the gsoc app, is gonna be complex to use? |
| 07:13.15 | ajuonline | the student application, last year was so simple :) |
| 07:13.16 | jasebo | sometimes my wife IMs me, and her computer is right next to me |
| 07:13.32 | ajuonline | jasebo: lol, i have seen that happening here as well |
| 07:13.50 | glaksmono | haha lol |
| 07:13.56 | amit8-88 | jasebo: lol! we too do that ;) |
| 07:14.02 | ajuonline | amit8-88 sitting next to his room mate both looking at each others laptops, and talking on IM |
| 07:14.11 | glaksmono | LOL!! |
| 07:14.20 | ajuonline | and I was like wtf!! |
| 07:14.29 | jasebo | lol |
| 07:14.43 | amit8-88 | ajuonline: no more issues pls :) |
| 07:15.14 | ajuonline | :) |
| 07:15.24 | JonCruz | jasebo: guilty |
| 07:15.34 | JonCruz | jasebo: especially when I have earphones one |
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| 07:15.42 | jasebo | lol |
| 07:15.45 | glaksmono | WELCOME jessezh |
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| 07:33.04 | twitter1 | asd |
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| 07:35.37 | ajuonline | happy birthday saurabh1403 :) |
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| 07:35.52 | saurabh1403 | ajuonline: thanks a lot :) |
| 07:36.30 | ajuonline | saurabh1403: wheres the party? :P |
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| 07:36.52 | saurabh1403 | at #gsoc :P...you want some chocolates.....?? |
| 07:37.08 | ajuonline | yeah :) |
| 07:37.27 | saurabh1403 | gives some chocolates to ajuonline ... |
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| 07:37.32 | saurabh1403 | have fun friend |
| 07:37.35 | ajuonline | saurabh1403: openmoko not applying this year?? |
| 07:37.43 | saurabh1403 | ajuonline: i think no.... |
| 07:37.56 | saurabh1403 | but i suppose that FSO, a part of openmoko might apply |
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| 07:42.40 | ajuonline | saurabh1403: you share your birthday with Aamir Khan? w00t!! |
| 07:43.12 | saurabh1403 | ajuonline: and with Albert Einstein also |
| 07:43.16 | saurabh1403 | :D |
| 07:44.43 | ajuonline | piday, as well |
| 07:44.46 | ajuonline | great :) |
| 07:45.14 | saurabh1403 | yes |
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| 08:36.29 | snake | which organisation shuld i approach for new ideas on pdf readers |
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| 08:36.49 | impl | KDE has okular, which is pretty brilliant. |
| 08:37.07 | impl | that said, no organizations have been accepted to the program yet |
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| 08:37.29 | fargiolas | snake: there's also GNOME with evince |
| 08:37.55 | snake | fargiolas: thanks |
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| 08:38.16 | snake | fargiolas: do you know their irc channel? |
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| 08:39.42 | ojwb | #gnome probably, but check on www.gnome.org |
| 08:39.59 | fargiolas | snake: not sure if there is a #evince channel but you can start with #soc and #gnome-love on irc.gimp.org |
| 08:40.02 | ojwb | you probably want the developer channel |
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| 08:41.32 | fargiolas | snake: also be sure to check http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2009/ for general information about GNOME and GSoC |
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| 08:45.19 | TaoChing | quote: "Since an important goal of the Summer of Code for us is to get new contributors, we'll try to avoid accepting students who already participated in a GNOME-related SoC/WSOP project or who is already a GNOME contributor" |
| 08:45.35 | TaoChing | I think other orgs should follow GNOME's example |
| 08:46.10 | ajuonline | that is for the organisations to decide, |
| 08:46.12 | TaoChing | Otherwise, previous GSoCers will have to much of a competitive edge |
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| 08:46.43 | TaoChing | Should be in the terms and conditions of GSoC, im my opinion |
| 08:46.54 | TaoChing | *humble opinion |
| 08:47.26 | ajuonline | TaoChing: http://summatusmentis.com/2009/03/10/gsoc-fairness-participation-the-way-things-are/ |
| 08:47.29 | sid0_ | why? |
| 08:47.30 | thebolt | TaoChing: i don't think they have that much of an advantage.. and even though we haven't had that posted officially in earlier years (i've been a mentor 3 years) we've only had one "repeated offender" |
| 08:48.17 | sid0_ | depends entirely on what the goals of the org are |
| 08:48.20 | ajuonline | to get new contributors who stay |
| 08:48.37 | ajuonline | not those who wake up during gsoc, and vanish post gsoc. |
| 08:48.47 | ajuonline | imho, |
| 08:48.49 | thebolt | and his application (and project result) was among the best the second year just because he participated before and stayed around for a year after |
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| 08:50.15 | ajuonline | that matches with "Get more open source code created and released for the benefit of all" |
| 08:50.20 | TaoChing | *repeated offender* I like that :D |
| 08:50.25 | thebolt | ajuonline: good piece |
| 08:50.29 | ajuonline | thebolt: ^, of course with some quality |
| 08:50.48 | TaoChing | summatusmentis is a wannabe repeated offender. |
| 08:50.57 | sid0_ | TaoChing: if the goals of the org are to reward student devs who've been with them, then it's quite acceptable to take them |
| 08:51.10 | ajuonline | TaoChing: i guess, he is an awesome programmer. who can write a lot better code than any newbie. |
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| 08:51.25 | sid0_ | such a thing should be at the discretion of the org and *certainly not* in the t&c |
| 08:51.34 | ajuonline | +1 sid0_ |
| 08:52.20 | sid0_ | the only way to be fair is for the org to decide what it wants |
| 08:52.23 | ajuonline | TaoChing: gsoc - is about promoting foss development, and encouraging students to do so. |
| 08:52.51 | ajuonline | any student, repeating or non-repeating, has the same right to do so i.e. apply |
| 08:53.08 | sid0_ | maybe the org sees greater hope with people who already have experience |
| 08:53.11 | kblin | TaoChing: I certainly wouldn't be here today without participating multiple times |
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| 08:54.12 | fargiolas | TaoChing: that's not always true though, I know a couple students who were accepted and already contributed to GNOME previously. A big factor in acceptance decision is how much mentors are confident that you will complete your project |
| 08:55.03 | sid0_ | TaoChing: I suggest you concentrate on your application instead of worrying about something the orgs should worry about |
| 08:55.11 | ajuonline | TaoChing: and besides, its like just any other job/internship, that a student can apply for. may the best person get it. |
| 08:55.36 | ajuonline | i think TaoChing is just a wannabe attention seeker :P |
| 08:55.42 | ajuonline | imho :) |
| 08:56.04 | ajuonline | that is what you get, if you talk about my friends :P |
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| 08:57.23 | ajuonline | TaoChing: Google has been running this program for like 4-5 times now? |
| 08:57.51 | ajuonline | so I assume, they know what they are doing. since there have been repeated students across the years |
| 08:58.13 | ojwb | a student who is already involved in a project is more likely to succeed and more likely to achieve more |
| 08:58.22 | ojwb | and will probably take less mentor time |
| 08:59.18 | ojwb | it's perhaps unfair that they're likely to find it easier to get a place, but then life is rarely fair, and they've arguably earned that by doing well the year before and staying around |
| 09:00.02 | ajuonline | awesomely said, ojwb :) |
| 09:00.06 | sid0_ | I don't think it's unfair, tbh |
| 09:00.29 | ojwb | can certainly see why it might be viewed that way |
| 09:00.44 | ajuonline | not unfair, if you treat it wrt a job post/application. |
| 09:00.46 | ojwb | but I can see it would seem unfair if it was disallowed |
| 09:01.05 | jasebo | I think any organisation with multiple places will take into account the competing needs |
| 09:01.09 | jasebo | 1) to get new contributors |
| 09:01.13 | jasebo | 2) to get succesful outcomes |
| 09:01.30 | jasebo | and probably balance things out |
| 09:01.40 | smtms | by selecting easier projects? |
| 09:01.53 | ajuonline | by selecting meritorious students, |
| 09:01.55 | ojwb | last year, I believe everyone got at least 2 slots, if they wanted them |
| 09:02.00 | TaoChing | not talking to ajuonline anymore :( |
| 09:02.25 | jasebo | any student who does this more than 3 or 4 times must be having trouble with their real world course :-) |
| 09:02.35 | ajuonline | TaoChing: no offence :) just said imho ;) |
| 09:02.38 | ojwb | or be a postgrad |
| 09:02.46 | jasebo | lol.. oh yeah. or that |
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| 09:04.33 | ajuonline | if we look at gsoc as a funding mechanism to fuel foss development, which it is actually, people who have been doing development voluntarily forever, could use it to keep going on. isnt it ? |
| 09:04.59 | antarus | that would require you be in school forever |
| 09:05.13 | jasebo | there's new contributors, and new contributions... they're both important for an open source application |
| 09:05.18 | ajuonline | of course, as long as you are in school :P |
| 09:05.20 | ojwb | some people's phds seem to take that long |
| 09:05.35 | ajuonline | post school, look for other ways to pay |
| 09:06.02 | ajuonline | thats the point, everything is important :) |
| 09:06.12 | ajuonline | jasebo: ^ |
| 09:06.18 | jasebo | yep |
| 09:06.25 | ajuonline | we cant say, something is unfair. |
| 09:06.40 | ojwb | just taking part gets your project looked at by more people |
| 09:06.56 | ojwb | though less so for projects like gnome and debian than for the smaller guys |
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| 09:07.56 | rohananil | 4 years (undergrad) 2 year(post grad) 4 year(phd) ,10 possible year for soc'ing |
| 09:08.02 | rohananil | :) |
| 09:08.13 | jasebo | no way I would have had the patience to do it that long! :-D |
| 09:08.31 | ajuonline | nobody does that, tbh :) |
| 09:08.42 | jasebo | 4 years was enough for me |
| 09:09.06 | ajuonline | that as well as gsoc :P |
| 09:09.07 | ajuonline | i mean ;) |
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| 09:10.08 | thebolt | hehe |
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| 09:14.28 | ajuonline | !timelines |
| 09:14.28 | socinfo | Error: "timelines" is not a valid command. |
| 09:14.30 | ajuonline | !timeline |
| 09:14.30 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline, or (#2) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 09:14.53 | smtms | !timelines |
| 09:14.53 | socinfo | Error: "timelines" is not a valid command. |
| 09:15.28 | ajuonline | march 23, hrmph |
| 09:15.38 | ajuonline | i will be in air, when the application period starts |
| 09:16.02 | ajuonline | maybe I should create history, submit my application while in flight. |
| 09:16.35 | thebolt | ajuonline: i'm kind-of in same situation.. will go on vacation on march 27th (until april 6th) |
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| 09:16.54 | thebolt | have to prepare in advance.. |
| 09:17.24 | ajuonline | thebolt: 1900 UTC. is 1230 am my time. and after a stop over my connecting flight is at 01:00 am |
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| 09:17.47 | thebolt | ajuonline: well, you don't have to submit until april 3rd |
| 09:17.52 | ajuonline | i know :P |
| 09:18.06 | thebolt | but i'll be on an island in the archipelago of philippines with no internet from 27th :P |
| 09:18.06 | ajuonline | you missed the fun :P |
| 09:18.13 | ajuonline | i want to create history lol |
| 09:18.21 | thebolt | bah :P |
| 09:18.32 | jasebo | an island without internet? Is that possible? |
| 09:19.13 | jasebo | has mock horror on face |
| 09:19.51 | thebolt | jasebo: well, there might be internet but i won't have any connection at least |
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| 09:21.24 | jasebo | you won't have any connection? |
| 09:21.28 | jasebo | has mock horror on face |
| 09:21.38 | jasebo | :-) |
| 09:22.31 | jasebo | is it a beach holiday? |
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| 09:25.14 | thebolt | jasebo: diving holiday |
| 09:25.29 | jasebo | lucky! |
| 09:25.32 | thebolt | so something like that yes |
| 09:25.41 | thebolt | yep.. but $$:/ |
| 09:25.57 | thebolt | this spring will take some serious $$ for travel.. |
| 09:26.09 | thebolt | (philippines, hong kong and japan planned so far.. ) |
| 09:26.32 | thebolt | and then of course the ticket home in july.. |
| 09:26.54 | jasebo | I've been diving a few times... it's glorious. So I'm highly jealous. |
| 09:27.14 | thebolt | It is.. i really love it, has become nr1 interest these days :) |
| 09:27.33 | thebolt | too bad its such a money sink, otherwise i'd dive more |
| 09:27.38 | jasebo | are you diving the great barrier reef? |
| 09:27.44 | thebolt | no, never been there |
| 09:27.54 | thebolt | and don't think i'll have time/money to go there anytime soon either |
| 09:27.54 | jasebo | put it on the list :-) |
| 09:28.02 | thebolt | it already is |
| 09:28.15 | antarus | should book a japanese vacation |
| 09:28.21 | jasebo | you should probably be fairly quick, it's in trouble because of climate change |
| 09:28.36 | thebolt | now i think after philippines i have to wait until i get back ohme.. have a trip to norway planned for july/august |
| 09:28.47 | thebolt | home* |
| 09:29.18 | antarus | travel enough? :p |
| 09:29.34 | jasebo | frequent flyer points galore for you! |
| 09:29.37 | thebolt | hehe |
| 09:29.48 | thebolt | norway is close and we'll bring our own equipment so taking car there |
| 09:29.52 | thebolt | (i normally live in sweden) |
| 09:30.04 | thebolt | and now traveling around here i fly different companies each time :P |
| 09:30.41 | ajuonline | sweden - girls. |
| 09:31.09 | ajuonline | drOoL :P |
| 09:31.23 | thebolt | haha :P |
| 09:32.29 | thebolt | guess we have different taste there;) |
| 09:32.45 | antarus | hrm round trip SFO to NRT is 900 bucks |
| 09:32.47 | antarus | not too shabby |
| 09:33.18 | thebolt | antarus: not too bad.. for me itsmore like 200 but i am a bit closer (in taiwan atm) |
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| 09:56.07 | ajuonline | thebolt: planning to visit India any time soon? ;) |
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| 10:00.07 | thebolt | ajuonline: no, not really.. its on the limit ofbeing so far that its not that much more expensive to go there from sweden anohter year |
| 10:04.01 | ajuonline | i was talking about travelling from .tw :P |
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| 10:20.04 | kblin | ajuonline: that's what thebolt was talking about as well |
| 10:20.45 | ajuonline | is it /that/ far from taiwan? |
| 10:20.51 | ajuonline | looks on the globe |
| 10:21.07 | ojwb | it's all the way across mainland china |
| 10:21.28 | thebolt | ajuonline: km matters less than cost of flying ;) |
| 10:23.16 | ajuonline | heh, right :P |
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| 10:25.32 | thebolt | but also matter of fitting my schedule.. i don't think i can do anymore one-week vacations until i go home, and if i go to india i'd like to have at least one, preferably two or more, weeks |
| 10:25.50 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: my logs tell me you're pimping out my website to trolls? |
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| 10:26.02 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: and defending you as well. :P |
| 10:26.18 | summatusmentis | much appreciated :-D |
| 10:26.36 | ajuonline | ;) |
| 10:26.53 | summatusmentis | was he actually trolling? or does he just hate me for some reason? |
| 10:28.15 | summatusmentis | oh, repeated offender means returning GSoC student, that makes more sense |
| 10:28.16 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: not you. but he suggested that google puts a ban on repeating gsoc students in their t&c. |
| 10:29.09 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: where are you travelling? it seems you are at the airport? |
| 10:29.13 | summatusmentis | That's even less conducive, they'll run out of students eventually :-D |
| 10:29.29 | summatusmentis | yeah, I'm going to see my parents for spring break |
| 10:29.35 | summatusmentis | so, from MN to ME |
| 10:29.35 | thebolt | summatusmentis: nicely written page |
| 10:30.04 | summatusmentis | thebolt: really? I always feel like I have poor writing skills. Thank you |
| 10:30.33 | ajuonline | to talk sense, you barely need much skills ;) |
| 10:31.05 | summatusmentis | I disagree, you can talk sense, but if no one understands you, it's useless |
| 10:31.22 | jasebo | what page? |
| 10:31.33 | ajuonline | jasebo: http://summatusmentis.com/2009/03/10/gsoc-fairness-participation-the-way-things-are/ |
| 10:31.48 | thebolt | summatusmentis: well, didn't notice the writing skills that much which means it cannot have been that bad.. and mainly refered to the conclusions etc :) |
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| 10:32.00 | summatusmentis | gets all embarassed |
| 10:32.07 | ajuonline | ha ha :) |
| 10:32.09 | summatusmentis | thebolt: thank you :-D |
| 10:33.03 | kblin | summatusmentis: it sums up the discussion pretty well |
| 10:33.43 | summatusmentis | kblin: that was mostly the intent, I didn't know what else to say, and ajay kept bugging me (by kept, I mean once) |
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| 10:34.43 | kblin | it's also pushing me to work on my website today :) |
| 10:34.59 | jasebo | seems pretty fair |
| 10:35.21 | jasebo | nicely argued summatusmentis |
| 10:35.40 | summatusmentis | kblin: yeah, seriously, get that done, no one gets credit from "This is a new website." |
| 10:35.44 | summatusmentis | jasebo: thank you |
| 10:36.20 | thebolt | kblin: :) |
| 10:36.37 | summatusmentis | kblin: or rather, some nebulous entity called kblin gets credit, but no one knows who that is |
| 10:37.35 | jasebo | I think I've watched about 20 ted talks in a row |
| 10:38.30 | kblin | summatusmentis: I'm working on it as we speak. I found the bunch of PHP scripts I used to use, currently going over the content and then I really need to poke the layout |
| 10:39.03 | kblin | purple was fun for a while, but it looks a bit less professional than I'd like these days |
| 10:39.28 | summatusmentis | kblin: I'm seriously contemplating doing web design right now too, but it's 5:40 am |
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| 10:39.40 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: design one for me :P |
| 10:39.56 | summatusmentis | I'd probably have to use bright yellow and green in order to just keep me awake :-D |
| 10:40.27 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: sorry dude, OpenAFS site > my professional site > your site |
| 10:40.34 | summatusmentis | in terms of priority |
| 10:41.04 | summatusmentis | but if you're paying, let's talk in 6 months |
| 10:41.20 | ajuonline | heh ok :P |
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| 10:41.24 | summatusmentis | (or possibly sooner, depending on how fast I can move through the planning stages here) |
| 10:41.33 | summatusmentis | :-P |
| 10:42.20 | thebolt | kblin: where's your site? |
| 10:43.05 | summatusmentis | crap, they moved my gate :-/ |
| 10:43.08 | summatusmentis | tah all |
| 10:44.29 | kblin | thebolt: kblin.org |
| 10:44.37 | kblin | the obvious ;) |
| 10:44.42 | kblin | wow |
| 10:44.54 | kblin | I found a talk about GSoC from summer 2007 |
| 10:45.01 | kblin | fun.. |
| 10:45.23 | ajuonline | lol@ This is a new website |
| 10:45.50 | thebolt | kblin: .org? so you are in fact a non-profit entity? ;) |
| 10:45.54 | kblin | ajuonline: well, I've got different stuff running in other vhosts on the same box |
| 10:46.05 | kblin | thebolt: I'm not earning any money on this |
| 10:46.29 | thebolt | true |
| 10:46.41 | thebolt | (i'm on a .com, doesn't earn me any money either..) |
| 10:46.43 | ajuonline | so does having a .net domain make me an ISP? |
| 10:46.48 | ajuonline | thebolt: ^ |
| 10:47.22 | thebolt | ajuonline: original intention was at least that.. but reversed.. you are an ISP -> get a .net ;) |
| 10:51.10 | HanzZ | is somewhere some example of application? I know what to write there, but I want to read some other applications before, thanks |
| 10:51.44 | homunq | HanzZ: the application deadline is past |
| 10:51.49 | ajuonline | HanzZ: student application? |
| 10:52.03 | HanzZ | yes, student applications |
| 10:52.08 | homunq | oh, sorry |
| 10:52.12 | ajuonline | HanzZ: did you check the advise for students, wiki ? |
| 10:52.42 | homunq | HanzZ: it really depends on your project. |
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| 10:53.16 | ojwb | it does - each project will have an application template |
| 10:53.17 | HanzZ | yes I've read it, but there isn't whole application :) |
| 10:53.27 | ajuonline | is it ok to send your passports scanned copy via email? |
| 10:53.34 | ojwb | well, most will - it's not a requirement, but is strongly recommended |
| 10:53.41 | scorche | ecause you are supposed to up with the whole application yourself... |
| 10:53.57 | HanzZ | ok :) I understand |
| 10:55.33 | HanzZ | so it's better to ask organization about it :) |
| 10:56.04 | scorche | yes...and you will see when the time comes that organizations will likely have a template for you to fill out for your application |
| 10:58.57 | summatusmentis | stupid airport :-/ |
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| 11:00.16 | summatusmentis | wow, I was arrogant when I started making websites |
| 11:00.19 | summatusmentis | "<!-- I'd like to point out the cleanininess of this HTML. Therefore, it was writtent by Jake Thebault-Spieker in a text editor, and not using any form of WYSIWYG editor --> |
| 11:00.22 | summatusmentis | " |
| 11:00.58 | glenker_ | has an official/unofficial list of mentoring organizations been compiled yet? |
| 11:00.59 | x58 | That was like what? Two weeks ago that you wrote that? :P |
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| 11:01.10 | ojwb | glenker_: no, not until wednesday |
| 11:01.14 | summatusmentis | x58: not two weeks ago, a year or so ago :-P |
| 11:01.43 | x58 | summatusmentis: Not much has changed in the arrogance department in that year, eh? |
| 11:01.58 | summatusmentis | x58: I don't see myself writing that now, no :-P |
| 11:01.59 | ojwb | glenker_: if you want to know if particular orgs have applied, you can check for recent mailing list discussion, or ask on IRC |
| 11:02.02 | jasebo | !timeline |
| 11:02.03 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline, or (#2) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 11:02.16 | ojwb | um |
| 11:02.22 | ojwb | #1 == #2 doesn't it? |
| 11:02.33 | nuytnie | jup |
| 11:02.37 | ojwb | handy |
| 11:02.47 | ojwb | would I be foolish to try to change that? |
| 11:02.47 | summatusmentis | ojwb: it's called 'redundancy' :-P |
| 11:02.57 | jasebo | looks impressive before you work that out! |
| 11:03.00 | x58 | summatusmentis: :P |
| 11:03.08 | nuytnie | :P |
| 11:03.15 | x58 | ~timeline http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 11:03.25 | nuytnie | lovely |
| 11:03.38 | summatusmentis | it's in case the first one is unable to perform for whatever reason >_> |
| 11:03.45 | ojwb | x58: wrong bot |
| 11:03.55 | x58 | ojwb: Ah. Figures. |
| 11:04.04 | ojwb | socinfo: forget timeline |
| 11:04.05 | socinfo | Error: 2 factoids have that key. Please specify which one to remove, or use * to designate all of them. |
| 11:04.12 | ojwb | socinfo: forget timeline* |
| 11:04.12 | socinfo | Error: There is no such factoid. |
| 11:04.15 | ojwb | socinfo: forget timeline * |
| 11:04.16 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 11:04.18 | ojwb | yay |
| 11:04.27 | x58 | socinfo: timeline is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 11:04.27 | socinfo | Error: "timeline" is not a valid command. |
| 11:04.28 | summatusmentis | !timeline |
| 11:04.29 | socinfo | Error: "timeline" is not a valid command. |
| 11:04.34 | ojwb | !timeline as http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 11:04.34 | socinfo | Error: "timeline" is not a valid command. |
| 11:04.44 | summatusmentis | oh angry |
| 11:04.47 | ojwb | socinfo: timeline is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 11:04.47 | socinfo | Error: "timeline" is not a valid command. |
| 11:04.51 | ojwb | argh |
| 11:04.57 | x58 | socinfo: learn timeline is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 11:04.58 | socinfo | (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 11:05.05 | ojwb | socinfo: learn timeline as http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 11:05.06 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 11:05.09 | ojwb | !timeline |
| 11:05.10 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 11:05.13 | ojwb | hurrah! |
| 11:05.15 | scorche | hahaha...you guys having fun? =P |
| 11:05.17 | x58 | There, community effort! |
| 11:05.24 | ojwb | yeah |
| 11:05.25 | summatusmentis | scorche: fixing socinfo |
| 11:05.29 | jasebo | hey, does anyone know when the organisation applications will be known? |
| 11:05.31 | summatusmentis | no more dupilcation :-D |
| 11:05.39 | summatusmentis | jasebo: the list will be available wed. |
| 11:05.41 | jasebo | !timeline |
| 11:05.41 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 11:05.43 | jasebo | hehe |
| 11:05.47 | nuytnie | hehehe |
| 11:05.52 | jasebo | sorry.. just checking the bot :-D |
| 11:05.55 | summatusmentis | oh hrr |
| 11:06.08 | summatusmentis | I was like "we just covered this" |
| 11:06.14 | jasebo | lol |
| 11:06.18 | nuytnie | and students can apply starting at 23/03 |
| 11:06.20 | ojwb | must learn that it's not enough to just plug the laptop in - it also needs the socket turning on |
| 11:06.46 | summatusmentis | ojwb: my house has the bottom of the two sockets tied to a light switch, and I always forget that |
| 11:06.56 | ojwb | er, what? |
| 11:07.10 | summatusmentis | so I've left my laptop to charge, and I'll come back to it dead |
| 11:07.19 | x58 | summatusmentis: Ah, the half-hots |
| 11:07.22 | nuytnie | summatusmentis: same problem here! I always disable my alarm clock by accident |
| 11:07.27 | ojwb | oh, the "light" switch turns the socket on/off? |
| 11:07.32 | x58 | ojwb: yes. |
| 11:07.42 | ojwb | this house has so many light switches |
| 11:07.50 | ojwb | there are quite a few we still haven't worked out |
| 11:08.00 | summatusmentis | ojwb: yes. It's a light switch because lamps are plugged into the other bottom sockets :-D |
| 11:08.14 | ojwb | oic |
| 11:09.43 | summatusmentis | rawr... DNS is being angry. |
| 11:10.07 | summatusmentis | I assume others get a timeout for thebault-spieker.org? |
| 11:11.51 | nuytnie | Grrrr... subversion is not my best friend today |
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| 11:14.07 | spectie | <soroush> Forbidden |
| 11:14.08 | spectie | <soroush> Your client does not have permission to get URL /files/gsoc2009flyer_template.odt from this server. (Client IP address: 217.219.75.127) |
| 11:14.11 | spectie | <soroush> You are accessing this page from a forbidden country. |
| 11:14.13 | spectie | :( |
| 11:14.36 | ojwb | summatusmentis: didn't seem to time out, just no results |
| 11:14.42 | ojwb | but very quickly |
| 11:16.22 | ojwb | spectie: residents of Iran aren't eligible |
| 11:16.27 | spectie | yeah i know |
| 11:16.33 | ojwb | so it makes sense I guess |
| 11:16.37 | spectie | but its still pretty rubbish that they can't even see the page |
| 11:16.39 | ojwb | assuming the IP block is accurate |
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| 11:17.03 | ojwb | I guess it avoids it being discovered later in to the program |
| 11:17.14 | spectie | one of our developers is from iran |
| 11:17.21 | spectie | and he's going to translate the flyer into Persian |
| 11:17.33 | ojwb | OTOH, China have apparently blocked appspot.com |
| 11:17.34 | spectie | but this just makes it unnecessarily difficult |
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| 11:53.35 | htrejh | hi |
| 11:53.41 | spectie | hey |
| 11:54.11 | htrejh | I would like to know if it is allowed to register if you're not 18 yet, but you will be 18 for the gsoc? |
| 11:54.49 | ojwb | you need to be 18 or over on april 20th iiuc |
| 11:55.22 | htrejh | ok, thanks :( |
| 11:55.26 | kloeri | quick! be older! |
| 11:55.41 | ojwb | the faq has the date, so double check if it's close |
| 11:56.12 | kloeri | http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs#age_limits |
| 11:56.26 | kloeri | april 20th is correct |
| 11:56.45 | htrejh | ok thanks, damn i have no chance :( |
| 11:58.22 | spectie | htrejh, next year then ;) |
| 11:58.37 | htrejh | yes probably :D |
| 11:58.54 | kloeri | I'd try to participate in open source anyway to be better prepared for next year |
| 11:58.59 | spectie | aye |
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| 11:59.54 | htrejh | i already participate a bit, but thought you needed to simply be 18 before it begins :s |
| 11:59.59 | kloeri | getting a bit more experience is always a good thing and will help you in many different settings in the future |
| 12:00.10 | kloeri | cool |
| 12:00.33 | kloeri | people helping open source projects++ :) |
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| 12:02.25 | ojwb | htrejh: april 20th *is* when it really starts |
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| 12:02.40 | htrejh | ok |
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| 12:02.52 | ojwb | that's the date the accepted students get announced and the community bonding period begins |
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| 12:28.14 | PeepOle | ;lp |
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| 12:41.48 | Huy | hi PeepOle |
| 12:42.37 | Goundy | Hi |
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| 13:24.16 | PulpFictionPunja | hello everyone. i have a question. supposing i want to submit a project idea for an application, that is not GNOME included by default, but comes with a specific distro, can i work on that? supposing say a bittorrent client, such as Transmission for Ubuntu or Monsoon for openSUSE, both are GNOME based. will GNOME accept work on that if the project lead accepts the project idea |
| 13:24.37 | spectie | PulpFictionPunja, i don't see why not |
| 13:24.46 | spectie | you'd have to discuss it with people from gnome |
| 13:25.01 | PulpFictionPunja | spectie: I tried, but the gnome IRC channel has been pretty non responsive about this. |
| 13:25.12 | spectie | PulpFictionPunja, try contacting the gnome mentors directly |
| 13:25.18 | spectie | did you look at their GSOC pages ? |
| 13:25.32 | spectie | http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2009 |
| 13:25.41 | PulpFictionPunja | thanks |
| 13:26.07 | PulpFictionPunja | spectie: do u think its possible? considering that even though the applications are not included by GNOME (as default), they are pretty common |
| 13:26.23 | spectie | sure it's possible |
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| 13:26.40 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: yep |
| 13:26.46 | PulpFictionPunja | aah thanks. |
| 13:27.15 | PulpFictionPunja | another thing i was really curious about, since gsoc is pretty competitive, how is evaluation done between different students? |
| 13:27.22 | spectie | PulpFictionPunja, depends on the organisation |
| 13:27.25 | PulpFictionPunja | basically, what is the deciding factor for accepting or rejecting an application |
| 13:27.32 | spectie | http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2009/Students |
| 13:27.49 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: Big organizations like Python SF, KDE, Gnome often umbrella different projects which are not closely related to them |
| 13:27.57 | alexstre^ | A rule of thumb is that you have to come up with a good and doable idea, and show you can do it, and you're motivated to do so |
| 13:28.04 | spectie | Here are some criteria of selection: usefulness for GNOME, if the student has already good thoughts about the project, chances that the project is completed, etc. |
| 13:28.15 | spectie | ^-- from the above page |
| 13:28.39 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: from my experience early submission gives you better chance |
| 13:28.40 | PulpFictionPunja | how much programming expertise is expected out of me? i mean should i be brilliant or that OR should i have the zeal to work (and that counts?) |
| 13:28.42 | mikv_ | *chances |
| 13:28.49 | spectie | PulpFictionPunja, both |
| 13:28.52 | spectie | depends on the project |
| 13:28.53 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: it depends on your project |
| 13:29.09 | PulpFictionPunja | i see. |
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| 13:29.44 | mikv_ | there are a lot of projects which don't require excellent programming skills |
| 13:30.14 | PulpFictionPunja | ok another thing what i was wondering, supposing my idea is SMALL (as in respect to coding time), but of valuable importance |
| 13:30.22 | PulpFictionPunja | does it depend on the project mentor to accept it? |
| 13:30.25 | spectie | yes |
| 13:30.25 | mikv_ | like "Find tools which makes X, examine all them and integrate the best one into our software" |
| 13:30.41 | PulpFictionPunja | are small ideas accepted as such? is it common? |
| 13:30.48 | spectie | PulpFictionPunja, sure |
| 13:30.52 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: yes |
| 13:30.53 | spectie | PulpFictionPunja, if it's useful |
| 13:31.01 | spectie | it doesn't matter about the size |
| 13:31.02 | PulpFictionPunja | aah, thank you spectie, mikv_ |
| 13:31.09 | ojwb | PulpFictionPunja: the criteria used will vary between orgs |
| 13:31.21 | PulpFictionPunja | so that means that projects can finish before the alloted time and it is completely normal ? |
| 13:31.26 | ojwb | but presenting a convincing proposition will generally do you a favour |
| 13:31.52 | spectie | PulpFictionPunja, you will be expected to propose something suitable for the time available |
| 13:32.02 | spectie | if you can do it in a week it is unlikely to get in |
| 13:32.04 | alexstre^ | PulpFictionPunja: if your main idea is not long enough maybe a mentor could propose additions to make it last for the entire summer |
| 13:32.31 | ojwb | or putting together two or three smaller projects is probably acceptable |
| 13:33.25 | mikv_ | i guess it would be better to make documentation, functional tests and so on. I mean build infrastructure for development after SoC |
| 13:33.35 | mikv_ | i mean after you will complete real coding |
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| 13:36.58 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: ping |
| 13:37.15 | PulpFictionPunja | sorry was AFK, apologies |
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| 13:37.48 | PulpFictionPunja | my idea is trivial as to quantity, but not quality :) |
| 13:37.56 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja:i recommend you to join IRC channel of your mentoring org and ask them directly |
| 13:38.30 | PulpFictionPunja | i just got an email from the GNOME admin for GSoC, and he is a clear NO on the projects outside GNOME |
| 13:38.40 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: i guess early contact will help to refine your proposal. |
| 13:39.28 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: hm... They listed Donwload manager idea last year. So it is very very strange. |
| 13:39.31 | PulpFictionPunja | his reply: projects within GNOME svn/git/CVS |
| 13:40.51 | mikv_ | anyway you should try with openSuse or any other related org |
| 13:41.06 | PulpFictionPunja | mikv: excellent idea, thank you |
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| 13:41.54 | PulpFictionPunja | how many students apply for GSoC ? (APPLY). do we have any stats on that? i was just curious as to the selection rate. |
| 13:42.16 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: read lh's blog |
| 13:42.41 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: she posted some stats about this |
| 13:44.55 | PeepOle | mikv_: You said there's lot of projects that do not require excellent programming skills. Name one |
| 13:46.12 | spectie | PeepOle, our project has a few |
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| 13:46.48 | spectie | PeepOle, stuff like: creating plugins for xchat/pidgin/firefox |
| 13:47.09 | mikv_ | PeepOle: hmm.. i can point you projects from previous years. Is it ok? |
| 13:47.23 | spectie | writing programs which strip format from text in a manner that it can be restored after processing the text |
| 13:47.43 | PeepOle | mikv_: I would like that |
| 13:47.47 | Landon | mikv_: here's a start: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/sfc/appinfo.html?csaid=EACA4618767E08D0 |
| 13:47.56 | Landon | whoops, meant to highlight PeepOle too |
| 13:47.57 | Landon | :) |
| 13:48.19 | mikv_ | PeepOle: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/psf/appinfo.html?csaid=9A0C0173CD3838DE |
| 13:48.27 | PulpFictionPunja | i would also like to see more similar projects |
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| 13:48.56 | Landon | is now going to be away so may not respond until *after* the 5 hr road trip |
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| 13:49.09 | PeepOle | mikv_: ok thanks |
| 13:49.10 | welterde | PeepOle: in which language? only python? |
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| 13:49.49 | PeepOle | welterde: no. I just wanted to know what type of projects do not require programming skills since mikv_ mentioned it |
| 13:50.16 | welterde | ah ok |
| 13:50.34 | mikv_ | http://code.google.com/soc/2008/debian/appinfo.html?csaid=D4B754E7C110F53D |
| 13:50.36 | ojwb | PulpFictionPunja: about 7000 last year IIRC |
| 13:51.08 | PulpFictionPunja | yes i am getting the idea! |
| 13:51.22 | PeepOle | ojwb: Why did you write IIRC at the end. I have seen some other people do that to. |
| 13:51.29 | spectie | iirc = if i recall correctly |
| 13:51.35 | easwar | Landon, you there? |
| 13:51.37 | PeepOle | ojwb: what does that mean )IIRC) |
| 13:51.40 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: btw. GNome accepted project to make new arts.gnome.org site 2 years ago :-) |
| 13:51.44 | PeepOle | ok |
| 13:51.44 | spectie | PeepOle, --^ |
| 13:51.51 | ojwb | what spectie said |
| 13:51.56 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: that was an easy task from my point of view |
| 13:52.57 | PulpFictionPunja | mikv: agreed. totally. |
| 13:52.59 | ojwb | http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/ProgramStatistics |
| 13:53.07 | ojwb | that has the numbers for all years so far |
| 13:53.14 | easwar | k, Landon's not here |
| 13:53.56 | PulpFictionPunja | 1125 students out of 7000 applications |
| 13:53.58 | PulpFictionPunja | competitive! |
| 13:53.58 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: http://code.google.com/soc/2007/gnome/appinfo.html?csaid=E590A385B576D582 |
| 13:54.15 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: nope. I've posted several applications last year |
| 13:54.33 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: 6 of them were mine :-) |
| 13:54.38 | PulpFictionPunja | ha ha. |
| 13:54.49 | PulpFictionPunja | where do u guys get so many ideas. its pretty interesting. |
| 13:55.02 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: but i got preacceptance from all 6 orgs :-) |
| 13:55.14 | mikv_ | this year i am going to post only 2 apps |
| 13:55.24 | ojwb | 2 is saner than 6 I'd say |
| 13:55.58 | PulpFictionPunja | mikv: can i see some of ur previous ideas? |
| 13:56.11 | easwar | has ONE idea,which is looking harder by the minute |
| 13:56.22 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: sure. one sec |
| 13:57.01 | alexstre^ | yeah I only have 1 idea right now, but I'm kinda limited by the fact that I'd prefer coding in objective-c instead of C, but I'll probably app for one or 2 more once I see this year's list |
| 13:57.05 | sid0 | It'd be awesome if we had a student from Antarctica this year :) |
| 13:58.03 | easwar | mikv_, thanks |
| 14:00.18 | kblin | man, I forgot how much I disliked webdesign |
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| 14:00.39 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: http://eight.pairlist.net/pipermail/geeklog-devel/2008-March/003282.html |
| 14:00.45 | PulpFictionPunja | mikv: thanks :D |
| 14:00.53 | Raim | sid0: all continents, eh? ;) |
| 14:01.16 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: but this was an easy task too :-) Really. So i've decided to go with another org |
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| 14:02.18 | PulpFictionPunja | but still u get IDEAS! that is what counts :D |
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| 14:04.05 | PulpFictionPunja | an idea, can change your life :D |
| 14:04.33 | easwar | PulpFictionPunja, lol |
| 14:05.06 | PulpFictionPunja | lol, i know why u laughing easwar :D |
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| 14:05.28 | mikv_ | PulpFictionPunja: if you are interested i canshare with you another few proposals |
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| 14:05.44 | easwar | PulpFictionPunja, /join ##gsoc-india |
| 14:06.02 | easwar | mikv_, would we be glad |
| 14:06.03 | PulpFictionPunja | mikv: PM! |
| 14:06.11 | PeepOle | mikv_: Please share some more proposals. |
| 14:06.33 | PulpFictionPunja | share for all. |
| 14:06.37 | PeepOle | ya |
| 14:06.45 | mikv_ | http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4t2984_12cvp7hvcz |
| 14:07.06 | mikv_ | this idea was preaccepted too :-) |
| 14:07.52 | PulpFictionPunja | thinks that mikv's idea is out of his bounds |
| 14:07.54 | mikv_ | Btw orgs allowed me to choose the project, but according to rules they may not ask for my opinion |
| 14:08.09 | easwar | mikv_, mind generating a few ideas from that machine of yours for us? |
| 14:08.11 | spectie | ah |
| 14:08.15 | spectie | with translate.org.za mikv ? |
| 14:08.43 | mikv_ | i used one technique 2 years ago |
| 14:08.51 | PeepOle | oye Jhamb |
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| 14:09.15 | mikv_ | as you can see there are a lot of orgs with similar software |
| 14:09.39 | mikv_ | e.g. wiki (more than 5), CMS (Joomla, Drupal ..) |
| 14:09.42 | spectie | we're the only org applying with MT afaik |
| 14:10.17 | mikv_ | you can see ideas offered by Drupal mentors and rework it |
| 14:10.33 | mikv_ | and propose for e.g. Joomla |
| 14:10.41 | mikv_ | Thats worked for me 2 years ago |
| 14:10.47 | mikv_ | :-) |
| 14:10.50 | PeepOle | cool idea |
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| 14:11.11 | PulpFictionPunja | mikv is too generous . ha ha. |
| 14:12.04 | kloeri | "stealing" ideas from other projects is not a bad idea at all imo |
| 14:12.23 | easwar | keeps that in mind |
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| 14:12.45 | spectie | providing it's all open-source, it's all good! |
| 14:12.54 | kloeri | indeed |
| 14:13.17 | PeepOle | Anyone know of anymore programs like GSoC that are NOT programming contests? |
| 14:13.32 | mikv_ | PeepOle: what do you mean? |
| 14:13.53 | PeepOle | Like contests where you propose your own ideas |
| 14:14.12 | spectie | to do what ? |
| 14:14.32 | PeepOle | Errr, develop some sort of software |
| 14:14.42 | PeepOle | or improve existing ones like in GSoC |
| 14:14.47 | spectie | wouldn't that be a programming contest ? |
| 14:15.38 | mikv_ | PeepOle: hmm. i know only about programming contests |
| 14:16.02 | mikv_ | PeepOle: HP runs research programs. |
| 14:16.25 | PeepOle | I don't like the programming contests where we are given very specific problems to solve in a given time limit |
| 14:17.15 | spectie | perhaps programming contests aren't for you then ? |
| 14:17.25 | PulpFictionPunja | PeepOle: you are talking bout programming contest |
| 14:17.25 | PulpFictionPunja | s |
| 14:17.38 | PulpFictionPunja | that are algorithm based, they are not concerned with projects |
| 14:17.43 | PeepOle | ya |
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| 14:18.18 | PulpFictionPunja | there are many. all over. google code jam is perhaps the best example. |
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| 14:19.39 | kloeri | PeepOle: is it being given specific problems you don't like or is it the timeframe? if you just want to get a little experience with coding with no time constraints you could look at something like http://projecteuler.net/index.php |
| 14:19.52 | PeepOle | timeframe |
| 14:19.55 | spectie | i think he means with payment |
| 14:19.59 | PeepOle | and specific problems too |
| 14:20.02 | PeepOle | not payment |
| 14:20.19 | mikv_ | ImagineCup from MS |
| 14:20.30 | PeepOle | Ya like those |
| 14:21.06 | mikv_ | http://www.hpl.hp.com/open_innovation/irp/ |
| 14:21.19 | kloeri | if you want all the freedom in the world you should simply suggest working on an idea of your own for an existing open source project - many projects would gladly accept that if the idea isn't entirely insane :) |
| 14:21.27 | spectie | aye |
| 14:21.46 | PeepOle | good point |
| 14:22.06 | mikv_ | PeepOle: there are a lot of such programs. really |
| 14:22.16 | mikv_ | bu GSoC is the best |
| 14:22.26 | mikv_ | because you have a mentor :-)))) |
| 14:23.34 | PeepOle | Yup. |
| 14:24.02 | kloeri | you can ask for a mentor when approaching any open source project really - if somebody wants to implement something cool for Exherbo I'd be quite happy to mentor them if needed or find somebody more suited to do the mentoring part |
| 14:25.08 | kloeri | sometimes projects don't have time for that of course but the important part is not being afraid of asking - you're helping them and they should be happy to help you in return |
| 14:25.52 | easwar | looks up Exherbo |
| 14:25.54 | WinterMute | that's actually a fairly good point |
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| 14:26.39 | kloeri | easwar: a source based linux distribution I started 18 months ago or so :) |
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| 14:26.53 | easwar | kloeri, hmm,I found the site |
| 14:26.55 | WinterMute | some of the projects I'm involved with suffer from people releasing enhancements or addons independently which don't quite fit in with the parent project |
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| 14:27.46 | easwar | keeps Exherbo in mind for when he switches to Slackware or therabouts in Linux experience |
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| 14:27.57 | easwar | *thereabouts |
| 14:28.02 | kloeri | yeah, communication is definitely important - particularly before going of on a tangent and spending the next 3-4 months implementing something everybody else have their doubts about :p |
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| 14:28.17 | WinterMute | contacting people from the projects concerned first will make things a lot easier from a maintenance standpoint |
| 14:28.39 | kloeri | easwar: you should check out planet.exherbo.org as lots of interesting ideas come up there |
| 14:28.49 | kloeri | WinterMute: definitely |
| 14:29.23 | PeepOle | kloeri: Exherbo is For distribution developers ? What does that mean? |
| 14:29.49 | PeepOle | kloeri: a distribution to create other distributions.....? |
| 14:29.51 | kloeri | that's not really true anymore |
| 14:30.43 | kloeri | no, what we meant by that is that it was too early for users due to the rather crazy development pace we were going through |
| 14:31.12 | skiquel | http://twitter.com/planetsoc |
| 14:31.21 | WinterMute | hehe, "worryingly disappearing lack of documentation" :) |
| 14:31.22 | ojwb | kloeri: that's very true - most projects would be happy to provide support for a new developer, and even if they don't have the resources to, they're unlikely to be annoyed by inquiries |
| 14:31.23 | kloeri | I managed to completely break every Exherbo installation 4 times in a single day for example (on purpose, mind) |
| 14:31.31 | kloeri | and I repeated that the day after :) |
| 14:32.30 | kloeri | Exherbo is quite stable and useful now however although I still expect one or two major redesigns to cause some disturbance for users |
| 14:33.17 | kloeri | ojwb: I'm asking people to contribute all the time at least and doing whatever I can to help them do so :) |
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| 14:33.34 | cse25 | hi |
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| 14:34.50 | ojwb | mikv_: what did you mean by "according to rules they may not ask for my opinion"? |
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| 14:42.12 | rehma1 | hi everyone |
| 14:42.19 | Guest73649 | hi all |
| 14:42.27 | rehma1 | i am new to gsoc and applying this year |
| 14:42.28 | kloeri | hi rehma1 and Guest73649 |
| 14:42.41 | Guest73649 | me too |
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| 14:51.35 | swamy | hi sir this swamy. new for gsoc |
| 14:52.10 | kloeri | hi swamy |
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| 15:00.37 | mikv_ | !faq |
| 15:00.38 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
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| 15:04.16 | mikv_ | ojwb: each year google has a meeting in IRC where they make sure that no student has been accepted by more than one org |
| 15:05.22 | ojwb | yes, I know |
| 15:05.45 | mikv_ | ojwb: and orgs may not ask your opinion |
| 15:05.51 | mikv_ | ojwb: during this meeting |
| 15:06.13 | Catfish_Man | eh? Maybe I'm misremembering, but I recall several cases of asking students which they preferred |
| 15:06.16 | Catfish_Man | maybe that changed though |
| 15:06.24 | mikv_ | IIRC sometimes Google admins decide about the student |
| 15:06.34 | mikv_ | Catfish_Man: i was asked |
| 15:06.48 | ojwb | yes, I'm fairly sure that we talked to such cases beforehand |
| 15:06.59 | ojwb | perhaps we're asked not to *during the meeting* |
| 15:07.08 | ojwb | it's insane enough without that |
| 15:07.16 | mikv_ | ojwb: at least one my friend wasn't asked |
| 15:07.18 | mikv_ | :-)) |
| 15:07.23 | Catfish_Man | heh yeah. Those meetings are crazy |
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| 15:07.44 | ojwb | I think it's poor form not to take the student's wishes in to account |
| 15:07.59 | ojwb | even if we aren't meant to TBH |
| 15:08.06 | mikv_ | !timeline |
| 15:08.06 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 15:08.12 | thebolt | well, last year we as organizations could in advance see what students where in conflict |
| 15:08.14 | ojwb | but I'd really be surprised if that was true |
| 15:08.17 | sid0 | if the student applied to multiple places, obviously he wants to work at all those places |
| 15:08.20 | thebolt | so we could ask them which they prefered if it came down to that |
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| 15:08.40 | mikv_ | thebolt: and you are from ...? |
| 15:08.44 | thebolt | (we didn't have to but the option was there) |
| 15:08.50 | ojwb | sid0: yeah, but he or she probably has a preference |
| 15:08.56 | thebolt | mikv_: organisation? Crystal Space 3D |
| 15:09.20 | mikv_ | thebolt: aha... thanks :-) |
| 15:09.24 | sid0 | ojwb: dunno -- I applied to just one org ao I have no idea :) |
| 15:09.27 | sid0 | *so |
| 15:10.56 | mikv_ | http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=18&month=03&year=2009&hour=19&min=00&sec=00&p0=0 |
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| 15:12.17 | Huy | MU 1 - LIV 4 |
| 15:13.13 | amit8-88 | wow :) |
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| 15:13.44 | amit8-88 | you wont believe I am MU fan though |
| 15:14.06 | mikv_ | Huy: i believe you are not from Russia :-) |
| 15:14.37 | Huy | :D yes, I'm not from Russia |
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| 15:33.42 | lil_Toady | !timeline |
| 15:33.42 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 15:44.51 | eakwarren | Good Morning everyone! Hot on the heels of glFusion v1.1.2, we've just released a 378 page documentation manual. Those interested should visit http://www.glfusion.org. Also prospective students can contemplate our Ideas page at http://www.glfusion.org/wiki/doku.php/ideas. Thx and good luck to all the mentoring and student applicants! :-) |
| 15:44.52 | mikv_ | !today |
| 15:44.53 | socinfo | Error: "today" is not a valid command. |
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| 15:46.44 | suresh | hi |
| 15:46.54 | suresh | this is suresh |
| 15:47.01 | suresh | am new to irc and gsoc |
| 15:47.03 | summatusmentis | that is what you nick says |
| 15:47.27 | eakwarren | hi suresh |
| 15:47.29 | summatusmentis | your* |
| 15:48.05 | suresh | what kind of projects are expected by mentoring organisations? |
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| 15:49.06 | eakwarren | that probably depends on the mentoring organization I would think. |
| 15:49.06 | suresh | anyone can help me fetch ideas for projects based on c or c++ |
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| 15:49.55 | summatusmentis | when the list of orgs is available, I expect there will be a sorted list of organizations by language |
| 15:49.58 | summatusmentis | there was last year |
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| 15:53.15 | spectie | hey suresh |
| 15:53.18 | spectie | is your name persian ? |
| 15:53.26 | PeepOle | summatusmentis: Is there a sorted list for last year now? |
| 15:53.44 | PeepOle | suresh is indian. from Delhi :) |
| 15:53.55 | Ori_B | PeepOle: last year's list is at http://code.google.com/soc/2008 |
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| 15:55.28 | PeepOle | I meant is there a page that sorts all GSoC projects by programming language or by topic (example: machine learning, website design etc) |
| 15:55.35 | spectie | PeepOle, there will be |
| 15:55.43 | spectie | when the organisations have been accepted |
| 15:55.43 | PeepOle | For last year |
| 15:55.46 | spectie | oh |
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| 15:56.08 | PeepOle | Is there any page still there from last year? |
| 15:56.12 | dhaun | !orgbylang |
| 15:56.13 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is http://eflow.org/wiki/index.php?Mentors_by_language |
| 15:56.20 | Ori_B | PeepOle: it's a bit hard to do that |
| 15:56.46 | mikv_ | thanks, Dirk |
| 15:56.49 | Ori_B | since there isn't really a fixed list of tasks you'd be applying for |
| 15:57.02 | dhaun | wrong list, actually - can't remember the other URL ... |
| 15:57.25 | spectie | there was one |
| 15:57.28 | eakwarren | hey Dirk, how's it going? :-) |
| 15:57.51 | mikv_ | Ori_B: but it isvery hard to apply for Perl Foundation with a project in Python, isn't it, |
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| 15:59.29 | Ori_B | mikv_: sure. but you could apply to, say, Gnome or Fedora or FreeBSD with pretty much any language and set of tecnnologies. |
| 15:59.30 | koss | hi |
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| 15:59.58 | Ori_B | koss: hi |
| 16:00.14 | koss | what ideas you have, did you find the potential mentor? |
| 16:00.54 | dhaun | PeepOle: http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm |
| 16:01.02 | dhaun | 2008 org list by category |
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| 16:02.31 | koss | hi Ori did you manage with you class work (about image text filter) |
| 16:02.50 | SecretFile | hi ppl |
| 16:03.00 | SecretFile | i have one question |
| 16:03.10 | spectie | hi |
| 16:03.12 | summatusmentis | SecretFile: go! |
| 16:03.21 | spectie | it won't ask itself! |
| 16:03.35 | SecretFile | does students from gimnasy can enter gosc |
| 16:03.54 | summatusmentis | gimnasy? |
| 16:04.04 | Ori_B | koss: yep. |
| 16:04.42 | SecretFile | gimnasy is like high school in europe |
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| 16:05.09 | summatusmentis | oh. I think the rule is if you're 18, and can prove that you've been accepted into University, you're allowed |
| 16:05.23 | summatusmentis | although I'm not certain on that |
| 16:05.56 | SecretFile | ok i have 19, but do i need to be student on academic program, or can i be in high school? |
| 16:05.56 | summatusmentis | but you definitely have to be close to being in college/university |
| 16:06.17 | summatusmentis | I think you can be in high school, so long as you've been accepted into a college/university |
| 16:06.19 | SecretFile | ok thx on ur answer |
| 16:06.24 | summatusmentis | if that makes sense |
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| 16:07.59 | summatusmentis | SecretFile: bear in mind that I'm not a Google official, so I don't make the rules. For the official answer, you should talk to LH, but it may also be answered in the faq |
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| 16:08.12 | SecretFile | is there any page with list of mentoring organizations who are on gosc? |
| 16:08.22 | summatusmentis | not yet, they haven't been announced |
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| 16:08.25 | summatusmentis | that happens on wednesday |
| 16:08.37 | saurabh1403 | SecretFile: read the FAQ for GSoC 2009 |
| 16:08.56 | summatusmentis | !faq |
| 16:08.56 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 16:09.06 | danderson | !when |
| 16:09.06 | socinfo | "when" is later |
| 16:09.37 | Huy | !socinfo |
| 16:09.37 | socinfo | "socinfo" is always right |
| 16:09.42 | SecretFile | ok thx |
| 16:09.46 | mikv_ | danderson: add countdown :-) |
| 16:09.49 | Huy | :D |
| 16:09.57 | schumaml | how many "have we been accepted? have we been accepted? have we been accepted?" so far? :) |
| 16:10.30 | Huy | !how many have been accepted ? |
| 16:10.32 | socinfo | Error: "how" is not a valid command. |
| 16:10.39 | Huy | :D |
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| 16:14.22 | summatusmentis | socinfo: learn accepted as NO! STOP ASKING! |
| 16:14.22 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 16:14.26 | summatusmentis | !accepted |
| 16:14.26 | socinfo | "accepted" is NO! STOP ASKING! |
| 16:14.30 | summatusmentis | :-P |
| 16:14.33 | danderson | that's just mean |
| 16:14.35 | spectie | lol |
| 16:14.37 | danderson | and people might take it seriously |
| 16:14.41 | summatusmentis | danderson: touche |
| 16:14.48 | summatusmentis | socinfo: forget accepted |
| 16:14.49 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 16:15.53 | summatusmentis | I forget that not everyone has a weird sense of humor like me |
| 16:16.11 | Sup3rkiddo | summatusmentis, i do :P |
| 16:16.30 | Sup3rkiddo | I find Burn After Reading and Explosm.net really funny |
| 16:16.48 | PeepOle | too much info |
| 16:17.09 | summatusmentis | PeepOle: what's too much info? explosm.net? :-P |
| 16:17.55 | danderson | burn after reading is awesome |
| 16:18.11 | danderson | "Well, I guess we learned not to do it again... Fscked if I know what we did..." |
| 16:18.18 | Sup3rkiddo | hehe.. Brad Pitt is awesome when he gets shot ^.^ |
| 16:18.33 | summatusmentis | Brad Pitt is just pretty much awesome :) |
| 16:18.53 | summatusmentis | my favorite character in the Oceans movies |
| 16:18.53 | Sup3rkiddo | acts like a total douche |
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| 16:18.55 | Huy | Benjamin button |
| 16:19.08 | summatusmentis | haven't seen Bejamin Button |
| 16:19.30 | Huy | nice movie |
| 16:19.30 | danderson | and george clooney going nuts also wins |
| 16:19.32 | neo7 | I thought this was official channel of GSOC |
| 16:19.34 | neo7 | :P |
| 16:19.43 | summatusmentis | neo7: it is :-D |
| 16:19.43 | neo7 | something gone wrong? |
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| 16:19.54 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 16:19.55 | summatusmentis | there's nothing GSoC'y to talk about :-D |
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| 16:20.08 | Crofton|work | people are waiting to find out if they are mentor organizations |
| 16:20.15 | Huy | but I love the actress more than brad |
| 16:20.28 | neo7 | summatusmentis: I know, I was telling those who asked about benjamin button :D |
| 16:20.52 | summatusmentis | yeah, we're talking about movies in the meantime :-D |
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| 16:21.13 | Sup3rkiddo | to ease things a bit |
| 16:21.15 | Sup3rkiddo | :D |
| 16:21.16 | neo7 | summatusmentis: ahaaa.... so... only hollywood? |
| 16:21.23 | Sup3rkiddo | bollywood ? :D |
| 16:21.25 | summatusmentis | no, anything you want really :-D |
| 16:23.54 | Huy | I'm thinking about the money, what I should by If I have $2500 |
| 16:24.00 | Huy | :D |
| 16:24.13 | Catfish_Man | buy a chimpanzee |
| 16:24.16 | summatusmentis | I'm using mine for rent/payment for semester abroad |
| 16:24.20 | summatusmentis | assuming I get in |
| 16:24.33 | straydawg | lolo |
| 16:24.33 | summatusmentis | being a responsible adult bites :-D |
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| 16:24.42 | Huy | is Macbook air good ? |
| 16:24.49 | Huy | hmm |
| 16:24.59 | summatusmentis | if you like underspec'd overpriced hardware |
| 16:25.32 | straydawg | but thin ;) |
| 16:26.02 | summatusmentis | yeah, but thin and still 13.3" |
| 16:26.13 | ajuonline | lh: trinity, are you around? :P |
| 16:26.19 | summatusmentis | I'd vote netbook over MBA |
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| 16:26.27 | Huy | :D |
| 16:26.44 | summatusmentis | and you save $1500 |
| 16:30.44 | neo7 | ajuonline: why did you call him trinity? |
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| 16:30.58 | Huy | Microsoft is going crazy with netbook, :)) |
| 16:31.04 | neo7 | actually my alias is neo... so i got worried |
| 16:31.06 | neo7 | :P |
| 16:31.25 | neo7 | i too have voted for notebook |
| 16:31.28 | hypa7ia | Huy: yeah, they are only making about $15 per is what i hear |
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| 16:34.22 | kblin | ah, crap. I hate php |
| 16:35.04 | straydawg | kblin: reasonable sentiment ;-) |
| 16:35.22 | kblin | goes back to switching back to SSI |
| 16:37.19 | ajuonline | neo7: so if you are a "neo" why do you think a "trinity" can be a "him" ? |
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| 16:37.33 | neo7 | ajuonline: thats why I was worried. you called him trinity |
| 16:38.02 | ajuonline | neo7: lh is a "her" |
| 16:38.16 | Huy | wow |
| 16:38.18 | neo7 | really |
| 16:38.20 | Huy | really |
| 16:38.21 | neo7 | WOW |
| 16:38.41 | PeepOle | WOW |
| 16:38.54 | PeepOle | really |
| 16:38.55 | PeepOle | :) |
| 16:39.09 | PeepOle | WOW |
| 16:39.17 | ajuonline | o.O |
| 16:40.07 | neo7 | Leslie Hawthorne is her real name |
| 16:40.16 | Huy | I guess she is going to be the Queen of beauty of #GSoC |
| 16:40.19 | Huy | :D |
| 16:40.25 | neo7 | God damn how could i miss it |
| 16:40.38 | PeepOle | really |
| 16:40.42 | danderson | just a note |
| 16:40.59 | danderson | this kind of "omg a girl" reaction is exactly why women don't feel welcome in open source communities |
| 16:41.02 | danderson | just saying :) |
| 16:41.48 | neo7 | Huy: guys I think we should better stop commenting about her, right here, right now. We might find ourselves into serious trouble if we go on like this in the path |
| 16:42.14 | kblin | !lh |
| 16:42.14 | socinfo | "lh" is (#1) Lighthearted Hippy, or (#2) Lady Hawthorn, or (#3) a zen experience to be hugged by!, or (#4) LOVE!, or (#5) lovingly happy, or (#6) free as in freedom!, or (#7) Loathes Harkonnen, or (#8) magic, or (#9) pillar of patience, or (#10) the most awesome woman to ever walk the earth |
| 16:42.35 | PeepOle | Girls doing opensource work sounds extremely sexy |
| 16:42.39 | PeepOle | There I said it. |
| 16:42.46 | kblin | facepalms |
| 16:42.46 | mrenoch1 | hey - what is the best way for a fledgling project to connect up with a mentoring organization? are new-ish projects, with small communities, viable SoC contenders? |
| 16:42.53 | PeepOle | cowers |
| 16:43.05 | neo7 | Currently on: #osbridge #teachingopensource @#melange @#gsoc |
| 16:43.17 | kblin | PeepOle: now go and reread what danderson said |
| 16:43.21 | ajuonline | Huy: on a side, not, LH is the person who runs the GSoC program |
| 16:43.25 | ajuonline | note* |
| 16:43.35 | ajuonline | PeepOle: Huy neo7 ^ |
| 16:43.46 | neo7 | ajuonline: yeah, she is the head |
| 16:43.52 | Huy | :O |
| 16:44.10 | ajuonline | yeah I wanted that :O reaction. |
| 16:44.12 | neo7 | ajuonline: she is the head of this project |
| 16:44.17 | PeepOle | Lighthearted hippy |
| 16:44.19 | PeepOle | hehe |
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| 16:44.24 | ajuonline | neo7: OSPO, manager. |
| 16:44.34 | ajuonline | ok now enough talking about it |
| 16:44.36 | ajuonline | topic change. |
| 16:44.51 | danderson | there is no topic for Pete's sake |
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| 16:45.01 | Catfish_Man | heh |
| 16:45.06 | neo7 | ajuonline: yeah, she is the admin, she can ban any of us without any reason at any time |
| 16:45.25 | Catfish_Man | banning people ain't hard ;) |
| 16:45.32 | danderson | especially when they fail to get a clue. |
| 16:45.41 | danderson | which appears to be what is happening here. |
| 16:46.17 | neo7 | Catfish_Man: yes but still, why shall we commit a punishable offense |
| 16:46.34 | Catfish_Man | is really tempted to add "There is not topic" to the topic |
| 16:46.46 | ajuonline | danderson: i mean the reactions some people are making :) |
| 16:47.00 | ajuonline | i can well start a LC session for these guys, being a volunteer. |
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| 16:47.11 | brlcad | fear of punishment shouldn't be the reason you don't say stupid things |
| 16:47.39 | ajuonline | yeah, the reason should be, to grow up and learn not to say stupid things :) |
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| 16:48.03 | Catfish_Man | hrm... cough drops seem to have lost a lot of their effectiveness |
| 16:48.07 | Catfish_Man | wishes he wasn't sick :( |
| 16:48.09 | neo7 | she is giving her time to us, then why shall we not respect her and forget that she is a girl or a boy. She is just a project manager in Google, and thats what we are likely to have in mind |
| 16:48.33 | ajuonline | Catfish_Man: i can haz fish? |
| 16:48.44 | Catfish_Man | ajuonline: you can not haz |
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| 16:49.00 | ajuonline | Catfish_Man: you are so picky!! its been an year, that I have been asking for it |
| 16:49.15 | Catfish_Man | is consistent |
| 16:49.27 | Catfish_Man | you can have unicorn once the bakery is done, though |
| 16:49.31 | ajuonline | so am i |
| 16:49.44 | PeepOle | ajuonline: Have you taken part in last years GSoC? |
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| 16:50.08 | neo7 | whois |
| 16:50.33 | ajuonline | PeepOle: yes, 2008. |
| 16:50.43 | ajuonline | damn, lizards in my cupboard |
| 16:50.45 | z4chh | when do orgs start finding out if they were accepted? |
| 16:50.59 | ajuonline | 18th march? |
| 16:51.05 | ajuonline | !timeline |
| 16:51.05 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 16:51.15 | neo7 | ajuonline: for which org did you work last year |
| 16:51.27 | ajuonline | neo7: http://sahana.lk |
| 16:51.27 | neo7 | ? |
| 16:51.36 | z4chh | ahh |
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| 16:51.42 | z4chh | releases all at once huh |
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| 16:52.03 | z4chh | hi Shadow_Master |
| 16:52.04 | neo7 | ajuonline: and what was the project on |
| 16:52.10 | PeepOle | ajuonline: Which org? and can I have a look at your project? and your blog, if you have one? |
| 16:52.46 | neo7 | ajuonline: what was there in open source disaster management system? |
| 16:53.10 | neo7 | ajuonline: can you please provide me some info, I would be very greatful to you |
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| 16:53.19 | Huy | PeepOle: type ajuonline in the address bar of your browser |
| 16:53.29 | Huy | :b |
| 16:54.37 | PeepOle | ajuonline: ? I really want to know. |
| 16:54.45 | Huy | ajuonline: I saw your portrait |
| 16:54.48 | Huy | ;D |
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| 16:56.00 | ajuonline | Huy: PeepOle ##gsoc-india is a place to create mess. you can all move there. |
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| 16:56.13 | neo7 | sahana's web looks like a bit inspired from ja_purity theme of Joomla |
| 16:56.15 | neo7 | :D |
| 16:56.18 | Gurpartap | lol because you have OP there |
| 16:56.18 | Gurpartap | :D |
| 16:56.25 | Gurpartap | :D :D :D |
| 16:56.30 | ajuonline | Gurpartap: no, there are others to help out |
| 16:56.44 | ajuonline | Gurpartap: and stop saying the secret~ :P |
| 16:56.45 | Gurpartap | ajuonline: with OP tasks ;) :D |
| 16:56.59 | neo7 | Gurpartap: are you from drupal? |
| 16:57.03 | Gurpartap | neo7: Yep |
| 16:57.11 | ajuonline | Lennie: good day Lennard :) |
| 16:57.19 | neo7 | Gurpartap: nice meeting you sir, I attended your lecture in IIT |
| 16:57.23 | ajuonline | Lennie: you even have a TBBT name, superkool! |
| 16:57.29 | Lennie | ajuonline, ^_^ |
| 16:57.33 | Lennie | ajuonline, stop stalking me :D |
| 16:57.41 | ajuonline | he he :D |
| 16:57.42 | Gurpartap | neo7: Oh, GREAT :D |
| 16:58.02 | ajuonline | neo7: IIT kanpur? |
| 16:58.03 | neo7 | Gurpartap: you wrote help pages in Drupal? |
| 16:58.06 | neo7 | yes |
| 16:58.09 | neo7 | IIT kanpur |
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| 16:58.17 | ajuonline | neo7: were you sleeping when I was there? |
| 16:58.20 | PeepOle | Gurpartap: Now I wwant your blog :) |
| 16:58.38 | neo7 | ajuonline: why? |
| 16:58.44 | neo7 | were you there too? |
| 16:58.46 | Gurpartap | neo7: Hmm, the underlying system for help |
| 16:58.56 | Gurpartap | PeepOle: Sure, http://myzonelabs.com/ :d |
| 16:58.57 | Gurpartap | :D |
| 16:58.58 | ajuonline | neo7: just out of curiosity :) |
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| 16:59.03 | PeepOle | Just want to know you guys |
| 16:59.10 | Gurpartap | ajuonline: :D |
| 16:59.20 | neo7 | Gurpartap: your work was quite impressive. |
| 16:59.29 | ajuonline | neo7: coz if you were there, you would ask about me now. |
| 16:59.33 | neo7 | ajuonline: were you also there to lecture |
| 16:59.34 | ajuonline | or sahana. |
| 16:59.42 | ajuonline | would not* |
| 17:00.06 | neo7 | ajuonline: No i wasn't in the lecture of Sahana, because I had a coding event there |
| 17:00.13 | Gurpartap | ajuonline: Actually there was a lot more stuff the those two lecs :D |
| 17:00.19 | Gurpartap | than those* |
| 17:00.29 | neo7 | ajuonline: extremely sorry I couldn't attend your lecture |
| 17:00.46 | ajuonline | Gurpartap: yeah, i know ;) |
| 17:00.54 | ajuonline | neo7: no worries, just curious :) |
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| 17:01.06 | ajuonline | coz the second day me and Gurpartap were hanging around together |
| 17:01.15 | Huy | oh, are you guys all from india ? :O |
| 17:01.24 | neo7 | ajuonline: its ok sir, i will surely attend next year if you come to IIT k |
| 17:01.36 | ajuonline | neo7: i am not *sir* :( |
| 17:01.43 | neo7 | Huy: no |
| 17:01.47 | ajuonline | is a final year student. |
| 17:02.01 | Gurpartap | ajuonline: ok sir |
| 17:02.06 | Gurpartap | xD |
| 17:02.23 | Huy | ajuonline: I'm a final year student too, sir |
| 17:02.30 | Huy | :D |
| 17:02.33 | Gurpartap | Huy: A lot more are actually idle here :D |
| 17:02.49 | neo7 | I am in second year great sirs |
| 17:02.52 | neo7 | :D |
| 17:03.08 | lifeeth | Gurpartap, sir.. What is this sir ? |
| 17:03.20 | Gurpartap | lifeeth: Sorry Shaktimaan |
| 17:03.21 | Huy | BF of my friend is an indian |
| 17:03.28 | Huy | :D |
| 17:03.40 | neo7 | Huy: My girl friend is a Russian |
| 17:03.54 | neo7 | Huy: actually we all are very global |
| 17:04.23 | Huy | neo7: sarapova? anna kovnikova ? |
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| 17:05.15 | neo7 | Huy: Rightly guessed the first name, ANNA Zarastrova |
| 17:05.27 | Huy | LoLZZ |
| 17:05.39 | Gurpartap | lol |
| 17:05.41 | neo7 | Huy: its very common name |
| 17:05.47 | Huy | I'm so talent in guessing things |
| 17:05.49 | neo7 | evryone could have guessed |
| 17:06.53 | Huy | I'm thinking aabout a Japanese girl, |
| 17:06.56 | Huy | ;d |
| 17:07.31 | PeepOle | ;D |
| 17:07.37 | PeepOle | hmmm |
| 17:08.59 | neo7 | Huy: you from china? |
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| 17:09.27 | Huy | neo7: good news for you, I have read a news paper saying that indian men is the best husbands over the world |
| 17:09.35 | Huy | :D |
| 17:10.03 | Huy | no, I'm VietNamese |
| 17:10.13 | neo7 | Huy: yeah I read it too, but the telephone bills just reach their limits |
| 17:10.22 | neo7 | so i have started VoIP |
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| 17:12.27 | Huy | neo7: I hate you, many girls in my country are migrating to India |
| 17:13.14 | Huy | our Queen Of Beauty is indian's wife too, T__T |
| 17:13.27 | PeepOle | reallly?? |
| 17:14.22 | PeepOle | no can't be |
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| 17:14.46 | neo7 | Huy: I only love my girlfriend, all the doors are still opened for you. though they are away from your land but still their residence is in your heart, So don't loose hope. :D |
| 17:14.47 | Huy | :D just kidding, but the second news is truth |
| 17:15.24 | PeepOle | Huy: by queen of beauty you mean? |
| 17:15.34 | Huy | Miss Beauty |
| 17:15.45 | neo7 | PeepOle: miss Vietnam |
| 17:15.46 | neo7 | ? |
| 17:15.51 | Huy | yes |
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| 17:16.01 | IwikiwI | helloooooo, another indian here :D |
| 17:16.08 | PeepOle | oh. I actually thought you meant lh :P |
| 17:16.08 | Huy | her name is "Dieu Hoa" |
| 17:16.36 | Huy | PeepOle: Szzz, be careful with ajuonline |
| 17:16.36 | neo7 | PeepOle: why we all are after lh, she might be married |
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| 17:19.37 | neo7 | anyone from gnome overhere? |
| 17:20.14 | danderson | more likely to be over at #gnome, don't you think? |
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| 17:20.36 | neo7 | I mean any mentor from GNOME who is on the channel of gsoc |
| 17:21.03 | danderson | more likely to be over at #gnome, don't you think? |
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| 17:22.16 | rohananil | neo7: irc.gimp.org #soc |
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| 17:22.46 | neo7 | rohananil: thanks |
| 17:23.18 | rohananil | sorry |
| 17:23.25 | rohananil | neo7: irc.gnome.org #soc |
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| 17:23.26 | rohananil | :) |
| 17:26.46 | neo7 | rohananil: that was for gnu image manipulation program? |
| 17:27.20 | rohananil | i gave the wrong address before (ignore that) |
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| 17:29.50 | neo7 | rohananil: ok |
| 17:29.52 | neo7 | thanks |
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| 17:37.12 | Lorenzu | hello |
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| 17:37.31 | Lorenzu | any mentor's |
| 17:37.40 | Lorenzu | featuring python projects |
| 17:37.46 | Lorenzu | ? |
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| 17:39.02 | yoyoyo | what are we to do sir |
| 17:39.15 | yoyoyo | i can't gt connected using mIRC |
| 17:39.20 | yoyoyo | pleasae help |
| 17:39.24 | yoyoyo | i am also behind a proxy server |
| 17:39.34 | yoyoyo | someone? |
| 17:39.58 | PeepOle | yoyoyo: pidgin |
| 17:39.59 | yoyoyo | umm... ppl? |
| 17:40.17 | yoyoyo | pidgin... ah! i have that :D |
| 17:40.29 | yoyoyo | how could i have forgotten |
| 17:40.36 | yoyoyo | thanks PeepOle :D |
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| 17:49.12 | ravenlock | I can no longer see my Org app. (not even read only) |
| 17:49.35 | ravenlock | nor have I received any confirmation that it was recieved in good health. |
| 17:49.48 | ravenlock | Is it safe to assume it is in fact in the right hands? |
| 17:50.00 | Catfish_Man | yes |
| 17:50.15 | ravenlock | k. :) |
| 17:51.10 | dhaun | http://socghop.appspot.com/org_app/show/google/gsoc2009/<orgname> still seems to work |
| 17:51.28 | Ori_B | Happy Pi Day! |
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| 17:53.25 | neo7 | happy b day Einstein |
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| 17:59.22 | scorche | ugh...i did not expect to see this in the mentors mailing list: "u r nt late." =/ |
| 17:59.46 | Catfish_Man | ugh indeed |
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| 18:01.50 | scorche | oh wait...that is on the -discuss list...much less surprising |
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| 18:06.08 | gigo | hi. I can't find the list of GSoC projects in the soc website. could someone please provide the link? |
| 18:06.29 | Catfish_Man | gigo: that link will not exist until the 18th |
| 18:06.35 | Catfish_Man | please read the faq/timeline |
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| 18:20.50 | Lorenzu | any mentors ? |
| 18:21.41 | scorche | this channel is full of them, i would imagine... |
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| 18:22.01 | Lorenzu | any python projects ? |
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| 18:22.17 | scorche | probably plenty of them... |
| 18:22.20 | Catfish_Man | no projects have been accepted yet |
| 18:22.20 | Landon | !orgbylang |
| 18:22.20 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is http://eflow.org/wiki/index.php?Mentors_by_language |
| 18:22.27 | Landon | ^ that should give a rough guide |
| 18:22.39 | Landon | but as Catfish_Man said, nothing is set in stone yet |
| 18:23.09 | Lorenzu | hey whr ar u guys from |
| 18:23.13 | scorche | keep in mind that the list above is from the orgs of last year, though they likely stand a good chance of being accepted this year as well |
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| 18:25.32 | MatthewWilkes | There is no curse in Elfish, Entish or all the tongues of man for this treachery! |
| 18:25.38 | MatthewWilkes | Bloody city council ignoring my letters. |
| 18:26.15 | Catfish_Man | send them in elvish instead? |
| 18:26.23 | scorche | or entish? |
| 18:26.32 | Landon | sure there's nothing in klingon? |
| 18:26.48 | Landon | at the very least you could declare war |
| 18:27.17 | scorche | Landon: Klingons would do that through weaking paper though |
| 18:27.59 | thiago_home | an Entish letter would be actually a 3-volume publication |
| 18:28.19 | scorche | the pen might be mightier than the sword, but not mightier than a bat'leth |
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| 18:28.43 | MatthewWilkes | thiago_home: Maybe they'd actually realise they'd received that then |
| 18:28.58 | MatthewWilkes | I just got a fucking court summons for £1000 of tax that I don't ow |
| 18:28.59 | MatthewWilkes | e |
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| 18:30.58 | Landon | thiago_home: probably not on paper either >:) |
| 18:31.07 | thiago_home | yep |
| 18:31.14 | thiago_home | would an Ent cut down a tree to make paper? |
| 18:31.19 | Landon | MatthewWilkes: is your license plate NOPLATE ? :P |
| 18:31.49 | MatthewWilkes | Landon: Don't get that reference, sorry. This is for £1092.12 of council tax, for which I am exempt, as I'm a student |
| 18:32.24 | thiago_home | that's a lot of money regardless |
| 18:32.24 | Landon | MatthewWilkes: a while ago there was an article about a guy with that vanity plate |
| 18:32.41 | Landon | which also happened ot be what police would write on tickets if there was no plate on the car |
| 18:33.17 | scorche | haha...i approve of exploiting this |
| 18:33.28 | Landon | kind of like the guy that owns donotreply.com |
| 18:33.42 | Lennie | Landon, hahaha awesome D |
| 18:33.46 | Lennie | yeah |
| 18:33.57 | Lennie | donotreply.com is cool al the secret mails :D |
| 18:34.15 | Landon | the "STOP HACKING OUR SITE" replies are the best |
| 18:34.27 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, that sucks :( |
| 18:34.36 | Lennie | Landon, there are a lot of ignorant people in the world :) |
| 18:34.53 | Landon | is reminded of yet another story.... |
| 18:35.18 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Tell me about it. Sent them the most british email I've ever written though, which was fun :) |
| 18:35.32 | Landon | some town accused a linux distribution of hacking their website, because the default page that came up said something like "Run on $LINUX_DISTRO" |
| 18:35.34 | Landon | or something similar like that |
| 18:35.51 | Lennie | no way :S |
| 18:36.36 | Landon | http://www.osnews.com/story/14113/Oklahoma_Town_Threatens_to_Call_FBI_Over_Renegade_Linux_Maker/ |
| 18:37.12 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Check out the anger: http://pastebin.com/d5711475 |
| 18:39.05 | Lennie | Landon, rofl fail |
| 18:39.14 | scorche | ... |
| 18:40.20 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, nice lets hope they call :P |
| 18:40.53 | Lennie | must love google ads on that page lol\ |
| 18:40.56 | Lennie | Tenant-Eviction-Service |
| 18:40.56 | Lennie | Specialists in tenant eviction Need to evict - Free Advice |
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| 18:41.17 | pygi | wonders if any of Ruby Central folks are here |
| 18:41.44 | pygi | hi too :P |
| 18:41.54 | Catfish_Man | hey pygi |
| 18:42.33 | ajuonline | pygi: Heroes, is kool! |
| 18:42.55 | pygi | ajuonline, dude, go get some life :p |
| 18:44.16 | niels | Ruby == great! |
| 18:44.39 | niels | shout out the love! |
| 18:45.06 | ajuonline | pygi: kid! :P |
| 18:45.46 | pygi | ajuonline, that's the biggest compliment I could get |
| 18:45.47 | pygi | thank you |
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| 19:01.58 | WinterMute | hmm, interesting, message I got yesterday from a UK student -> "the gsoc timetable is really odd. it starts right in the middle of the exam period (at least in nearly all uk universities) and then only provides a week before the mid-term evaluations after the exams" |
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| 19:02.29 | WinterMute | when do US unis have exams? |
| 19:02.45 | thiago_home | it continues well into the second semestre classes for Brazilian universities |
| 19:02.54 | WinterMute | !timeline |
| 19:02.54 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 19:03.00 | thiago_home | August is a normal class month (not vacations) |
| 19:03.38 | Ori_B | WinterMute: for Canadian universities, it's about 3 weeks after the end of exams |
| 19:03.57 | Ori_B | until pretty much the week class starts. |
| 19:06.47 | pygi | WinterMute, its the same for Croatia (also Europe) |
| 19:07.12 | WinterMute | same as UK? |
| 19:07.23 | pygi | well, yea ... |
| 19:07.48 | thiago_home | in other words, there's no way to please everyone\ |
| 19:08.01 | pygi | of course not thiago_home |
| 19:08.28 | Raim | WinterMute: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents#Advice_for_Non-US_Students |
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| 19:11.35 | skiquel | www.twitter.com/planetsoc - planet soc will be up in a few days, until then you can get your updates here :) |
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| 19:11.44 | Dragonking | Last year for me midterm evaluation deadline was just 2 weeks after last exam. |
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| 19:14.27 | lh | or you can get them from http://www.twitter.com/gsoc |
| 19:14.41 | lh | we'll be following all accepted students and mentors |
| 19:14.44 | lh | fun fun fun |
| 19:14.45 | lh | :) |
| 19:15.17 | sid0 | lh: oh nice! |
| 19:15.26 | sid0 | follows |
| 19:15.47 | lh | sid0: we're on identica too |
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| 19:15.53 | lh | also as gsoc |
| 19:16.46 | MatthewWilkes | lh: re @gsoc - good idea! |
| 19:17.05 | lh | MatthewWilkes: thanks. |
| 19:17.58 | MatthewWilkes | Right, homework done, time to get house clean. Yay weekends. |
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| 19:20.40 | scorche | wonders how lh can choose between so many orgs... |
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| 19:21.39 | lh | scorche: it's very difficult |
| 19:21.44 | lh | but this year i have a cunning plan |
| 19:21.45 | lh | :) |
| 19:21.53 | scorche | sounds devious |
| 19:21.53 | dhaun | magic 8-ball? |
| 19:21.56 | Landon | battle royalle? |
| 19:22.07 | lh | well, it's not that cunning |
| 19:22.15 | scorche | is it still devious? |
| 19:22.19 | lh | but the folks over at teachingopensource.org are keen to see more foss in education |
| 19:22.40 | lh | so i am going to suggest that orgs that don't make it in but still want to mentor work with that community to "brush up" for next year. |
| 19:22.46 | lh | get experience mentoring, all that jazz. |
| 19:22.47 | lh | :) |
| 19:22.50 | welterde | @that thandy thing: i2p already has that ;) |
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| 19:23.02 | sid0 | teachingopensource++ |
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| 19:23.16 | lh | welterde: you can always comment on the blog |
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| 19:23.42 | sid0 | lh: how far are you involved in it? |
| 19:24.09 | lh | sid0: barely started. just looking over the list right now, but nothing extensive |
| 19:24.16 | lh | has a few other things to get onto this morning first |
| 19:24.25 | sid0 | meant teachingopensource ;) |
| 19:25.00 | lh | sid0: ah, i see. it sorta just started too. i want to be more involved, and as mentioned have a plan. working on getting that together this morning too. |
| 19:25.15 | sid0 | great |
| 19:25.33 | ajuonline | lh: i can haz chocolateS? |
| 19:25.34 | welterde | lh: *does so* |
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| 19:26.43 | Mathiasdm | lh: is it allowed to put the gsoc logo on a project idea page? |
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| 19:28.55 | lh | welterde: catty, but posted. |
| 19:29.14 | welterde | :P |
| 19:29.30 | lh | Mathiasdm: logo guidelines here: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocLogos |
| 19:29.33 | lh | short answer, yes |
| 19:29.48 | Mathiasdm | thanks |
| 19:30.04 | skiquel | lh = leslie hawthorne? |
| 19:30.10 | thiago_home | that's her :-) |
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| 19:30.14 | skiquel | Hi!!! |
| 19:30.15 | thiago_home | -e |
| 19:30.16 | welterde | lh: and it's not the only thing i2p has, but tor is busy adding ;) |
| 19:30.18 | lh | s/hawthorne/hawthorn |
| 19:30.24 | lh | welterde: sure. |
| 19:30.24 | skiquel | Gotcha |
| 19:30.37 | skiquel | I felt sad we did't see you at Drupalcon DC |
| 19:30.47 | lh | skiquel: hey! i was sad too. really. |
| 19:30.49 | skiquel | I'm going to be runing the planet-soc this year :D |
| 19:31.01 | skiquel | we are preparing pwnage |
| 19:31.07 | lh | skiquel: fantastic! thanks for your help. |
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| 19:31.28 | lh | skiquel: i wanted to go to dc, but sigcse meant i had the chance to spread the gsoc love to a bunch of CS educators who hadn't heard about it before. |
| 19:31.36 | lh | tough call, but sigcse was the right choice. |
| 19:31.37 | skiquel | ahhh |
| 19:31.47 | lh | figures she can make it up to y'all in paris |
| 19:31.56 | skiquel | Oh yes :D |
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| 19:32.13 | skiquel | i will ping this channel when site is up |
| 19:32.42 | welterde | lh: hmm.. any reason why it doesn't show up? |
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| 19:33.18 | lh | welterde: hrm, thought it went through. should be there now. |
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| 19:34.08 | welterde | lh: ah.. now it shows up.. thanks :) |
| 19:34.18 | Crofton|work | how many applications di you end with? |
| 19:34.24 | lh | Crofton|work: 395 |
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| 19:34.37 | Crofton|work | urg |
| 19:34.49 | Crofton|work | so about (roughyl) 1 in 3 will be accepted |
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| 19:45.32 | WinterMute | lh, what's on in Paris? |
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| 19:46.04 | Gurpartap | Fall DrupalCon 2009 is in Paris |
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| 19:51.37 | ajuonline | i want to goto Paris :P |
| 19:52.39 | lh | WinterMute: drupalcon |
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| 19:53.39 | amit8-88 | ajuonline: cancel your flight to Sri Lanka and get a ticket to Paris ;) |
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| 19:54.15 | ajuonline | i want to goto SL as well :P |
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| 19:55.21 | amit8-88 | ajuonline: change the route then. Go to Paris first then to SL :) |
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| 19:55.43 | ajuonline | amit8-88: you should sleep :P you are tired ;) |
| 19:55.54 | amit8-88 | nope I am not |
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| 20:00.48 | gustavojordan | I can be mentor and participant at the same time, but so that in different projects? |
| 20:00.56 | scorche | goes off for sushi and thanks danderson for sticking the idea in his head |
| 20:01.07 | scorche | gustavojordan: do you mean mentor and student at the same time? |
| 20:01.23 | gustavojordan | yes |
| 20:01.27 | scorche | no, you cant\ |
| 20:01.58 | gustavojordan | Even in different projects, student in a , mentor in another? |
| 20:02.02 | scorche | correct |
| 20:02.43 | gustavojordan | no? |
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| 20:03.06 | scorche | you cannot be both mentor and a student...even if they would be in different projects |
| 20:03.57 | lh | gustavojordan: that's discussed in the faq, too. |
| 20:03.59 | lh | !faq |
| 20:03.59 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 20:04.05 | lh | gustavojordan: enjoy. |
| 20:04.49 | gustavojordan | was only a quick question , forgive pester |
| 20:05.05 | gustavojordan | thank u |
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| 20:34.57 | lh | !timeline |
| 20:34.57 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 20:35.26 | Igor | hey people, i have one question, if o work actualy can i participate on the gsoc? |
| 20:36.10 | lh | Igor: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/25d02c17a6326948?hl=en |
| 20:36.31 | harlan | lh: You know about Ocean Blue Sushi in Santa Clara, right? |
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| 20:37.43 | lh | harlan: i dont but i also dont eat sushi. :) |
| 20:37.43 | Igor | @1h thanks |
| 20:37.43 | thiago_home | was in the bay area last week |
| 20:37.46 | thiago_home | for a whole of 25 hours |
| 20:37.49 | harlan | Oh, so much for that idea then! |
| 20:37.56 | lh | Igor: my pleasure. |
| 20:37.56 | thiago_home | well, more because my flight was delayed out of SFO |
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| 20:45.34 | shirish | hi every one |
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| 20:45.44 | shirish | i am very keen to get involved into gsoc can i get any help please |
| 20:46.15 | thiago_home | !faq |
| 20:46.16 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 20:47.20 | lh | shirish: take a look at the faqs, then let us know what your questions are. they are the best place to get started. |
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| 22:00.15 | lh | !timeline |
| 22:00.15 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 22:06.11 | spectie | hey lh |
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| 22:09.36 | x58 | morning! |
| 22:09.52 | lh | spectie: greetings! |
| 22:09.57 | spectie | :) |
| 22:11.50 | borja | hi all |
| 22:11.55 | spectie | hi borja |
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| 22:14.10 | borja | hi spectie |
| 22:14.13 | spectie | hey borja |
| 22:14.28 | spectie | or zdravo ;) |
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| 22:15.06 | spectie | ah, it isn't as i thought |
| 22:15.24 | spectie | borja, where is your name from? i mistook it for a southern slavic name :) |
| 22:17.17 | borja | spectie: it's one of the lesser-known Spanish names |
| 22:17.32 | spectie | borja, hispanohablante ? |
| 22:17.39 | borja | spectie: fairly common in Spain, but not used in other Spanish-speaking countries |
| 22:17.48 | borja | spectie: si ;-) |
| 22:17.54 | spectie | vivo en alicante |
| 22:18.11 | spectie | y es la primera vez que vei ese nombre |
| 22:18.13 | spectie | ;) |
| 22:18.29 | borja | jaja |
| 22:18.29 | spectie | eres español/a ? |
| 22:18.32 | spectie | *veo |
| 22:20.12 | x58 | je ne parle pas francaise parle ainglais sil vous plait. |
| 22:20.16 | x58 | Wait, wrong language. |
| 22:20.32 | spectie | x58, *français |
| 22:20.35 | spectie | *anglais |
| 22:20.45 | spectie | *etc. |
| 22:20.46 | spectie | :) |
| 22:21.00 | Lennie | zolang jullie maar niet Nederlands gaan praten vind ik het best |
| 22:21.02 | x58 | spectie: I can't type the C with the stuff underneath in a terminal |
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| 22:21.12 | spectie | x58, oh |
| 22:21.12 | borja | x58: we switched to talking off-channel to spare the channel from our Spanishness |
| 22:21.13 | x58 | Lennie: Waarom niet? Dat zou juist leuk zijn |
| 22:21.18 | Lennie | vervloekt! |
| 22:21.25 | x58 | Haha, jammer he? |
| 22:21.45 | spectie | també podem parlar en català si no us molesta! |
| 22:21.54 | x58 | Lennie: Didn't expect another Dutchman to be in the channel? |
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| 22:22.05 | Lennie | there are more |
| 22:22.11 | Lennie | so what brings you here x58? |
| 22:22.12 | scorche | x58 flies too |
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| 22:22.21 | scorche | *rimshot* |
| 22:22.33 | x58 | Lennie: scorche and lh. |
| 22:22.53 | Lennie | ok |
| 22:23.04 | Lennie | lh ftw :) |
| 22:23.32 | summatusmentis | hi all |
| 22:23.33 | x58 | I go to to school with scorche. And lh did me a big favour! |
| 22:23.43 | borja | hi summatusmentis |
| 22:23.51 | summatusmentis | how're you borja ? |
| 22:24.19 | borja | summatusmentis: pretty good |
| 22:24.38 | summatusmentis | good :) |
| 22:24.47 | lh | x58: anything for y'all. :) |
| 22:26.56 | x58 | lh: I just started a corporation with a bunch of friends, so now we are waiting for Google Voice to go open, so that we can get one number for the corporation rather than the multiple we have now :) |
| 22:27.35 | Lennie | x58, are you a student? If so where? |
| 22:27.52 | x58 | Lennie: http://uat.edu/ |
| 22:28.04 | scorche | ugh...dont link them...horrid website |
| 22:28.15 | x58 | haha, I agree with your scorche. |
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| 22:28.36 | x58 | Unfortunately that is the website that would be found using Google when I said "University of Advancing Technology" |
| 22:28.42 | summatusmentis | x58: I seriously considered going there |
| 22:28.53 | x58 | summatusmentis: What major? |
| 22:29.19 | scorche | and it looks like it got worse from when i looked at it last...i didnt think that was possible |
| 22:29.23 | lh | x58: cool |
| 22:29.53 | summatusmentis | x58: I don't remember, I remember it being too specific for me |
| 22:30.10 | x58 | summatusmentis: If it is not game development the school is not that great. |
| 22:30.32 | x58 | I'll be honest, the courses for Software Engineering that they have are pathetic. |
| 22:30.37 | summatusmentis | I think I was looking at the net security thing |
| 22:30.45 | scorche | eh...it is has a lot of courses other schools lack |
| 22:30.58 | x58 | I liked the experiences I picked up though, the very open attitude, and the fact that classes generally were not that hard leaving me open to do my own things. |
| 22:31.09 | scorche | summatusmentis: that is my current major/program, actually |
| 22:31.11 | x58 | summatusmentis: NetSec is not that bad at UAT. |
| 22:31.21 | summatusmentis | scorche: really? cool :) |
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| 22:31.35 | summatusmentis | I felt like I was going to be too locked into one field |
| 22:31.40 | x58 | scorche: You just get to deal with professors that don't know what they are talking about :P |
| 22:31.46 | summatusmentis | also, AZ :-/ |
| 22:31.53 | x58 | summatusmentis: AZ is not bad at all. |
| 22:32.01 | scorche | well, netsec comes in handy with many fields... |
| 22:32.10 | scorche | AZ was not near as bad as i thought it would be |
| 22:32.11 | summatusmentis | x58: I've only ever lived in MN, ME, or WY |
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| 22:32.40 | x58 | summatusmentis: I have lived in The Netherlands, Switzerland, and The United States of America (NJ, and now AZ) |
| 22:32.44 | x58 | your point/ |
| 22:32.46 | x58 | ? |
| 22:32.47 | scorche | x58: eh...they know *some* stuff...just dont go outside those bounds |
| 22:33.02 | summatusmentis | x58: the whole 'hot' thing doesn't work for me :-D |
| 22:33.10 | x58 | scorche: You apparently have not heard me go on about a certain net sec teacher doing the WRONG thing. |
| 22:33.23 | x58 | summatusmentis: Didn't work for me either, but now I can't stand the cold. |
| 22:33.29 | scorche | x58: nope, but am now curious though this should probably move on to PM |
| 22:33.48 | x58 | scorche: Ask me sometime while at school. I don't want to sit and type it all :P |
| 22:33.53 | scorche | summatusmentis: me either, but it is better than cold....but with AZ, everywhere you go has A/C, so it is fine....it isnt like i go outside anyway ;) |
| 22:34.17 | x58 | No, scorche is a pasty white geek who lives in his parents basement! :P |
| 22:34.18 | summatusmentis | you can always put on more clothing if you're cold, there's only so much you can take off when you're hot before you get arrested |
| 22:34.25 | scorche | i....do? |
| 22:34.33 | x58 | summatusmentis: Ehm, underwear is all you legally need in arizona :P |
| 22:34.39 | scorche | summatusmentis: this is what A/C is for |
| 22:34.54 | scorche | just walk down Mill...you wont see much clothing |
| 22:34.55 | summatusmentis | x58: in some cases, that's still too hot |
| 22:35.00 | summatusmentis | :-D |
| 22:35.22 | x58 | summatusmentis: Eh, just get some water on ya. You'll be fine :P |
| 22:35.29 | x58 | scorche: ASU. :P |
| 22:35.39 | summatusmentis | haha |
| 22:35.44 | x58 | scorche: Not sure about the basement thing, the rest of it is correct though. |
| 22:36.04 | summatusmentis | I'll take my snow over heat any day of the week |
| 22:36.19 | scorche | summatusmentis: snow is a pain... |
| 22:36.26 | x58 | well, here in AZ you definitely won't get a snow day at school :P |
| 22:36.40 | scorche | x58: we had a snow day... |
| 22:36.43 | summatusmentis | you can't snowboard in AZ either :( |
| 22:36.45 | scorche | you dont remember? |
| 22:36.48 | borja | y'all should come to Chicago if you want to know what a real snow day is like |
| 22:36.59 | x58 | scorche: Eh? At UAT? |
| 22:37.02 | x58 | Oh |
| 22:37.04 | x58 | you suck! |
| 22:37.07 | summatusmentis | borja: I'm in Morris MN :-D |
| 22:37.08 | x58 | Snow machine does not count. |
| 22:37.09 | scorche | yes |
| 22:37.17 | borja | summatusmentis: ok, I lose ;-) |
| 22:37.45 | summatusmentis | well, I don't know about that, I feel like chicago and most of MN are pretty similar |
| 22:37.57 | x58 | summatusmentis: Yes you can, there is plenty of skiing and snowboarding in AZ. |
| 22:37.59 | borja | We did, however, recently have an epic day where the recorded temperature in Chicago was lower than the recorded temperatures in Alaska and the North Pole |
| 22:38.13 | borja | is proud? of that |
| 22:38.29 | spectie | lol |
| 22:38.29 | scorche | x58: http://www.flickr.com/photos/uat/3085488112/ |
| 22:38.36 | summatusmentis | x58: oh, I suppose mountains... we don't have that :) |
| 22:38.36 | x58 | scorche: Yeah, snow machine does not count. |
| 22:38.42 | scorche | =D |
| 22:38.55 | x58 | scorche: That is cheating. |
| 22:39.01 | scorche | =D |
| 22:39.28 | summatusmentis | scorche: not nearly enough :) |
| 22:39.30 | x58 | It only lasted what, a few hours too? |
| 22:39.37 | scorche | something like that |
| 22:39.58 | x58 | All those people so happy to see snow. They should go visit the alps sometime. Now that is snow. |
| 22:40.39 | scorche | x58: speaking of, ASU is having a GSoC event soon that i will be going to...did you want to tag along? |
| 22:40.47 | x58 | scorche: Yes sir. |
| 22:40.52 | summatusmentis | oh, would love to be in the alps :) |
| 22:41.50 | x58 | That is the thing I miss the most about leaving Switzerland. Skiing. My family and I used to go skiing every single saturday during the winter. Only an hour and a half drive from our home in Basel to spend a day on beautiful mountains going down awesome slopes. |
| 22:42.06 | scorche | x58: sometime on the 24th http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/ae9fc0d9daf1daee# |
| 22:42.41 | summatusmentis | x58: are you swiss originally? |
| 22:42.43 | scorche | do you know any of these "soda" kids? |
| 22:43.05 | summatusmentis | by originally, I mean is that where you were born? :-P |
| 22:43.34 | x58 | summatusmentis: I am from The Netherlands. I am Dutch and won't ever become an American. I do have green card before you insinuate that I am a illegal alien. I am a registered alien! :P |
| 22:43.45 | x58 | "soda" kids? |
| 22:43.54 | scorche | http://asusoda.com/ |
| 22:44.15 | x58 | Nope, no idea. |
| 22:44.30 | summatusmentis | x58: I don't automatically assume that all 'aliens' are illegal, I try not to be that close-minded |
| 22:44.53 | scorche | oh well...i guess i will just meet (and present with) them there... |
| 22:45.09 | x58 | Looks interesting. |
| 22:46.30 | x58 | hmmm, wonder if that is worth going too regularly. Looks like it could be another source of knowledge. |
| 22:46.38 | scorche | yup |
| 22:47.10 | scorche | and someone i met at SCaLE said he was reviving some bsd monthly meeting in the phoenix area...i assume you would know about that? |
| 22:47.30 | x58 | s/know about/go to/ |
| 22:47.37 | x58 | Did not know about that, but will definitely go. |
| 22:48.09 | scorche | i thought i grabbed his card, but i dont seem to see it |
| 22:48.31 | x58 | the Phoenix LUG that does their meetings at UAT absolutely sucks balls. |
| 22:49.05 | antarus | has found that most LUGs are scary places |
| 22:49.44 | x58 | They are very close minded |
| 22:49.50 | summatusmentis | ugh... this uat is website is bad :) |
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| 22:50.22 | x58 | summatusmentis: http://hackerdegree.com/ is worse |
| 22:50.43 | borja | o.O |
| 22:51.19 | scorche | x58: i will see about trying to find the card/track down this group... |
| 22:51.31 | x58 | scorche: Cheers, appreciate it. |
| 22:51.39 | spectie | their site doesn't work on my browser |
| 22:51.40 | scorche | x58: ugh...stop linking people to these embarrassments! |
| 22:51.49 | x58 | Damnit, I missed out on so much by not going to SCALE this year. Ugh. |
| 22:51.50 | scorche | spectie: good |
| 22:52.00 | spectie | too much flash |
| 22:52.00 | x58 | spectie: what browser? |
| 22:52.04 | summatusmentis | the CLI interface is clever though :-D |
| 22:52.05 | spectie | breaks swfdec |
| 22:52.09 | x58 | ah |
| 22:52.17 | spectie | x58, iceweasel with swfdec |
| 22:52.26 | x58 | Yeah, there is a work order in to fix that, but they refuse to acknowledge that |
| 22:52.41 | x58 | at least it is better than a year ago, when the entire website refused to work in anything but IE 6 |
| 22:52.46 | spectie | :/ |
| 22:52.47 | scorche | summatusmentis: no it isnt...stop encouraging them =< "bash: ls: command not found. Type man for list of commands " |
| 22:52.54 | scorche | such fail |
| 22:53.05 | antarus | clever is very close to 'retarded' |
| 22:53.06 | x58 | summatusmentis: Not clever in the least. |
| 22:53.07 | spectie | how did they get a .edu domain ? |
| 22:53.20 | spectie | you can't just buy those right? |
| 22:53.21 | x58 | spectie: They are an educational facility? |
| 22:53.26 | summatusmentis | scorche: I didn't say it was well done, I said it was clever |
| 22:53.28 | x58 | They are a valid private university. |
| 22:53.34 | spectie | oh, it's a real "university" |
| 22:53.36 | spectie | lol |
| 22:53.46 | x58 | spectie: University of Advancing Technology |
| 22:53.50 | spectie | there is only one private university in the UK |
| 22:53.52 | antarus | porn.edu is avaibable, I could start my own private 'university' |
| 22:53.56 | x58 | antarus: haha |
| 22:54.02 | antarus | also I could teach spelling |
| 22:54.03 | antarus | ugh |
| 22:54.04 | impl | You can't get a .edu unless you're accredited |
| 22:54.06 | spectie | x58, they're pretty easy on what they call a 'university' in the US right ? |
| 22:54.14 | summatusmentis | antarus: don't you need accredidation? |
| 22:54.14 | antarus | impl: details! |
| 22:54.20 | spectie | impl, that's what i'd have thought! |
| 22:54.26 | x58 | spectie: You just need to be accredited with certain boards ... |
| 22:54.34 | antarus | so I'll need some bribe money |
| 22:54.48 | impl | http://net.educause.edu/edudomain/ |
| 22:55.03 | x58 | Once you have accredidation you can call yourself a university and whatnot. |
| 22:55.05 | impl | It used to be different, and that's why they have a few legacy domains. |
| 22:55.14 | impl | Like merit.edu |
| 22:55.21 | scorche | spectie: well, it depends...UAT actually is an accredited uni with bachelors/master degrees...unlike many of the other "colleges" |
| 22:56.29 | spectie | ah |
| 22:56.39 | x58 | I like how a top-level domain name like .edu can only be used by educational instances within the United States, not like there are universities and schools outside of the US! |
| 22:56.49 | spectie | actually i don't agree with .edu |
| 22:56.53 | spectie | .ac is better |
| 22:57.04 | spectie | same as .com |
| 22:57.07 | spectie | i don't see the point |
| 22:57.09 | spectie | .co.int! |
| 22:57.40 | x58 | .com is not limited to a country though. It is world wide |
| 22:57.42 | x58 | anyone can get one |
| 22:57.45 | spectie | yeah |
| 22:57.47 | spectie | .co.int would be better |
| 22:57.57 | x58 | However schools in Switzerland for example can't go get an .edu domain name. |
| 22:58.06 | x58 | Why? |
| 22:58.14 | x58 | More to type, harder for people to remember |
| 22:58.16 | spectie | because it would get rid of the US/world distinction |
| 22:58.21 | impl | Because .edu is for the US |
| 22:58.23 | impl | just like .gov |
| 22:58.35 | impl | because we invented the Internet, so we get all the cool domain names |
| 22:58.44 | impl | :D |
| 22:58.48 | spectie | edu is pretty rubbish though |
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| 22:59.04 | x58 | impl: haha |
| 22:59.06 | spectie | .ac.xx is cooler |
| 22:59.20 | impl | I guess :P |
| 22:59.23 | spectie | in spain they don't use subcodes for educational institutions :( |
| 22:59.26 | spectie | no .ac.es |
| 22:59.30 | impl | Nor in Germany |
| 22:59.32 | x58 | I saw cx in that sentence and it reminded me of lesser visited websites on the web. |
| 22:59.32 | spectie | it's just ua.es / upc.es etc. |
| 22:59.32 | spectie | :( |
| 23:00.11 | x58 | What's the ac supposed to stand for? |
| 23:00.15 | x58 | accredited, academic? |
| 23:00.16 | spectie | academic institution |
| 23:00.29 | x58 | edu does that pretty well "education" |
| 23:01.17 | spectie | sure |
| 23:01.25 | spectie | but it's longer |
| 23:01.26 | spectie | as you said |
| 23:01.33 | borja | spectie: I think there used to be a loophole in the .edu process, and some Spanish universities were actually able to get a .edu domain before they closed the loophole (e.g., upc.edu) |
| 23:01.41 | spectie | upc has .edu ? |
| 23:01.47 | spectie | shit you're right |
| 23:01.50 | impl | It's not really a loophole |
| 23:01.53 | scorche | then again, accredited universities are far from the only "education" related institutions |
| 23:01.55 | spectie | they have .es too |
| 23:01.56 | impl | They just didn't have the restrictions until later |
| 23:01.59 | x58 | Yyep |
| 23:02.03 | impl | http://www.ncssm.edu/ <-- this is a high school |
| 23:02.21 | spectie | in the UK secondary schools have .sch. |
| 23:03.28 | impl | Most US primary/secondary schools have .k12.<state name>.us addresses |
| 23:03.58 | x58 | I hate those |
| 23:03.59 | spectie | aye in the UK it's <school>.<area>.sch.uk |
| 23:04.08 | spectie | it appeals to my sense of categorisation |
| 23:04.15 | x58 | how am I supposed to remember highschoolname.k12.nj.us? WTF? |
| 23:04.25 | x58 | just give me highschoolname.net |
| 23:04.26 | impl | I dunno, my high school just had a .com :P |
| 23:04.28 | x58 | or .edu |
| 23:04.30 | spectie | well, you first think, which school do i want, and where is it ?:P |
| 23:04.32 | x58 | mine had a .net |
| 23:04.49 | spectie | ours was harry-carlton.notts.sch.uk |
| 23:04.54 | spectie | but now i think they got a .com |
| 23:04.56 | spectie | morons |
| 23:05.09 | x58 | My school district ran the town names website. http://montville.net/ |
| 23:05.13 | x58 | why morons? |
| 23:05.16 | impl | My school system had a .net, actually |
| 23:05.26 | impl | and they gave out addresses under that |
| 23:05.33 | impl | <school name>.<district name>.net |
| 23:05.37 | impl | which wasn't bad |
| 23:05.52 | impl | Some schools [high schools] got their own domains, though |
| 23:05.56 | x58 | Oh, looking at UPC's website, I believe we had someone come guest speak at UAT from there! |
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| 23:06.13 | spectie | oh? |
| 23:06.21 | spectie | x58, you're at UAT ? |
| 23:07.16 | scorche | spectie: both him and i are |
| 23:07.19 | spectie | aha |
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| 23:07.26 | x58 | spectie: I believe we just went over this... Yes I am. |
| 23:07.34 | x58 | :) |
| 23:07.43 | spectie | sorry, i thought you guys where just making fun of it! |
| 23:08.19 | x58 | spectie: Having only one semester left and feeling as if I am not ready to go out into the real world because of certain things lacking in my education, I make fun of it to make me feel less horrible about myself. |
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| 23:08.57 | spectie | enrol on a masters' programme |
| 23:08.58 | spectie | that's what i did :D |
| 23:09.00 | x58 | spectie: For $DEITY's sake, they renamed their Software Engineering: Computer Science degree into Advancing Computer Science. |
| 23:09.53 | x58 | I send people to their homepage to check them out, or they read my resume and see I go to UAT, and I can't tell you how many times I've had to answer the question "Why is it named Advancing Computer Science" |
| 23:10.04 | x58 | "haha, that sounds like a marketing degree, as they part of ITT tech?" |
| 23:10.09 | scorche | x58: i wouldnt imagine that is rare in academia |
| 23:10.10 | x58 | s/as/are/ |
| 23:10.17 | scorche | x58: the whole not feeling ready bit |
| 23:10.18 | spectie | just put 'Computer Science' down on your CV |
| 23:10.27 | spectie | i'm glad i'm still in academia |
| 23:10.40 | spectie | :D |
| 23:10.59 | x58 | scorche: They don't even teach functional programming languages though? People in 400 level courses don't know how to program in C++ when it is required for the course. |
| 23:11.15 | scorche | x58: or more common: feeling ready and going out to discover that you arent |
| 23:11.18 | x58 | spectie: Yeah, but i get that when they visit the website or try to find out more about the university in general. |
| 23:11.29 | x58 | scorche: Guess I am more prepared then :P |
| 23:11.32 | spectie | i didn't get taught functional languages at my uni |
| 23:11.33 | scorche | yeah...the whole functional language thing is crap...but at least they arent a java shop |
| 23:11.36 | spectie | it was an option |
| 23:11.42 | spectie | and my university was a java shop :/ |
| 23:11.52 | x58 | scorche: They are a Microsoft shop. Through and through. |
| 23:12.08 | scorche | x58: but they have that new "open source" degree whatever that is! =P |
| 23:12.16 | x58 | they didn't bother to teach Templates for C++, but they will happily teach you Microsoft Visual C++ drag and drop. |
| 23:12.19 | spectie | actually my first uni has one of those now |
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| 23:16.24 | spectie | hey homunq |
| 23:16.28 | homunq | hey |
| 23:16.44 | homunq | what's your link ID? |
| 23:16.53 | homunq | mine's sugarlabs |
| 23:16.58 | spectie | apertium |
| 23:20.04 | jonnymind | Hello; How to check which organizations have been approved? |
| 23:20.14 | spectie | they haven't been approved yet |
| 23:20.15 | spectie | !timeline |
| 23:20.16 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 23:20.17 | x58 | jonnymind: Wait till the timeline says they are done |
| 23:20.23 | jonnymind | k |
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| 23:27.32 | homunq | spectie: hopefully, by next year I'll have a native-speaker Mayan *applicant* for your GSoC :). |
| 23:27.58 | spectie | :D |
| 23:28.03 | spectie | that would be awesome |
| 23:28.19 | spectie | we'd be able to get a lot done |
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