| 00:02.59 | jasebo | are you nearby? |
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| 00:07.59 | ojwb | Dan's in the ISS |
| 00:09.55 | tntcoda | Hey guys, If im on a computer science degree, have a fair amount of programming experience and submit a few good project proposals for GSOC, do I generally stand a fairly good chance of being accepted to the programme? Or is it a case of there being way to many applicants and only the best will get accpeted? I know its a difficult question, i was just wondering if many people get rejected |
| 00:10.12 | spectie | tntcoda, yes |
| 00:10.14 | spectie | people get rejected |
| 00:10.23 | spectie | it is quite competitive |
| 00:10.31 | spectie | the best thing you can do is start talking to organisations early |
| 00:10.55 | tntcoda | ok thanks very much, will start planning now |
| 00:11.02 | spectie | np |
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| 00:12.44 | fuzzybyte | how many applications i should make at most |
| 00:13.06 | spectie | fuzzybyte, the best thing is to make one really good application |
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| 00:13.21 | spectie | fuzzybyte, get to know the organisation you want to work with beforehand and work with them on the application |
| 00:14.09 | fuzzybyte | okay |
| 00:14.38 | MatthewWilkes | fuzzybyte: A couple of good applications should be sufficient, the limit is 20 but if you put in more than 2 to an org they'll probably think you're not that into the things you've suggested |
| 00:14.59 | fuzzybyte | i was thinking of making about two applications |
| 00:15.02 | spectie | sounds good |
| 00:15.20 | MatthewWilkes | fuzzybyte: Who are you thinking of applying to, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 00:16.04 | fuzzybyte | the first is KDE, the other one im not sure |
| 00:17.16 | fuzzybyte | but i was thinking just if I should make a "back-up application" |
| 00:17.40 | fuzzybyte | if my main application gets rejected |
| 00:18.02 | fuzzybyte | i'd like to participate at least in some project |
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| 00:18.13 | MatthewWilkes | fuzzybyte: Careful with that, you'd want to make sure both are things you're really excited about doing |
| 00:19.06 | ojwb | there certainly is some randomness and luck involved - it might be if you submit one application that the org gets lots of other applications for the same project (or the same mentor(s)) |
| 00:19.20 | fuzzybyte | MatthewWilkes: yes sure. I've only considered projects im familiar with and which are interesting |
| 00:19.44 | ojwb | but lots of applications means each will have less time and care spent on it, which will show |
| 00:20.43 | Ori_B | yum. that was some good fish stew :) |
| 00:21.05 | ojwb | fuzzybyte: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/ProgramStatistics shows stats for previous years |
| 00:21.31 | fuzzybyte | so 1 in 7 applications get accepted |
| 00:21.52 | fuzzybyte | doesn't sound so promising |
| 00:21.53 | ojwb | well, > 7000 applications for 1125 places last year doesn't mean 6/7 students fail to get a place |
| 00:21.54 | spectie | nn all |
| 00:21.59 | ojwb | as many make more than one application |
| 00:22.08 | fuzzybyte | ah ok |
| 00:22.12 | ojwb | at least I assume 7000 is the applications, not students who applied |
| 00:22.13 | Ori_B | fuzzybyte: well, most people apply to more than one place |
| 00:22.22 | Ori_B | and a lot of applications are, frankly, crap. |
| 00:22.26 | ojwb | lh may be able say how many students there were |
| 00:22.37 | MatthewWilkes | fuzzybyte: Also your org will be happy to help you improve your app if you ask them, I'm sure |
| 00:23.04 | ojwb | some students seem to send the same 4 line generic application to every org |
| 00:23.13 | lh | ojwb: iirc it was like 3000+ students |
| 00:23.15 | ojwb | or at least every one working in language X |
| 00:23.21 | ojwb | lh: thanks |
| 00:23.23 | Ori_B | fuzzybyte: finally, if you're familiar with the project, or at least you talked to the developers on IRC at some point, you're probably in a far better position than most applicants. |
| 00:23.32 | MatthewWilkes | lh! Good weekend? |
| 00:23.49 | fuzzybyte | yea.. |
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| 00:24.47 | fuzzybyte | is there somewhere a list of "ideas lists" yet? |
| 00:25.07 | ojwb | orgs aren't accepted yet, but orgs who have applied will have an ideas list |
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| 00:25.41 | ojwb | you could google for something like gsoc 2009 ideas list |
| 00:25.51 | fuzzybyte | i know. i found a list for KDE for example but was thinking if there were more for other orgs as well |
| 00:25.57 | ojwb | or if you have orgs in mind, look on their website or wiki |
| 00:26.35 | neebly | some 2008's participants also are participating again and some of them have their lists up |
| 00:27.06 | ojwb | !orgbylang |
| 00:27.06 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is http://eflow.org/wiki/index.php?Mentors_by_language |
| 00:27.10 | ojwb | that's for 2008 |
| 00:27.17 | Ori_B | fuzzybyte: there probably are, and you can always look at previous year's idea lists |
| 00:27.20 | ojwb | but might give you a starting point |
| 00:27.25 | Ori_B | also, of course, you're not restricted to what's on the list |
| 00:27.43 | MatthewWilkes | Anyone here using a non-ubuntu linux? Do you have the font "Electron"? (plone.org redeisgn font choice question) |
| 00:27.55 | fuzzybyte | sure, but i don't really have any good ideas of my own |
| 00:31.21 | neebly | how much effor do I need to put in in doing my application? (prevois year participants might be able to help) and how hard is it to get in..? |
| 00:31.56 | neebly | sorry, for spelling mistakes |
| 00:32.12 | ojwb | put more effort in to spelling in the application! |
| 00:32.37 | Landon | heh |
| 00:32.39 | Landon | for a basic outline |
| 00:32.44 | ojwb | it's not easy to say - more effort is likely to mean a better application and more success |
| 00:32.48 | Landon | google for drupal's application guide |
| 00:32.56 | Landon | it's what I used when making mine last year |
| 00:33.18 | ojwb | certainly if it looks like you spent 5 minutes, it's likely to be culled right away |
| 00:33.19 | Landon | http://drupal.org/node/59037 |
| 00:33.35 | kloeri | MatthewWilkes: no Electron font here |
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| 00:37.04 | MatthewWilkes | kloeri: Thanks! I know the feeling, once I'd got through a gentoo stage 1 install I never wanted to install anything more than the bare minimum again |
| 00:37.26 | kloeri | heh |
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| 02:05.16 | flouger | hi |
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| 02:09.11 | summatusmentis | hi |
| 02:11.08 | joshp | hi |
| 02:12.03 | flouger | I had an idea for a project that and would use wx widgets, and python |
| 02:12.21 | summatusmentis | flouger: with what organization? |
| 02:12.27 | flouger | im a student |
| 02:12.40 | flouger | so waiting for the organization list to come out |
| 02:12.41 | summatusmentis | no, I know, but what organization would you apply to? |
| 02:12.57 | summatusmentis | well, right, but does your idea pertain to a certain project? |
| 02:13.49 | flouger | no |
| 02:13.52 | flouger | new idea |
| 02:14.10 | flouger | want to hear my idea? |
| 02:14.27 | cjhopman | no |
| 02:15.18 | flouger | make a gui interface for command line applications. Where you run the application with -h --h --help -help, and parse the returned text. |
| 02:15.40 | flouger | and from there you have a list of the different flags to make check boxe's out of |
| 02:16.41 | summatusmentis | you're unlikely to get a project accepted if it doesn't relate to a certain project |
| 02:16.53 | ojwb | certain organisation that is |
| 02:16.55 | summatusmentis | s/certain project/certain org/ |
| 02:17.08 | summatusmentis | ojwb: you've got it :) |
| 02:17.24 | flouger | does anything like i described exist? |
| 02:17.25 | WinterMute | wow |
| 02:17.43 | WinterMute | the bot parses regex? |
| 02:17.58 | summatusmentis | flouger: I would guess no... maybe if you can apply it to a specific cli app |
| 02:17.59 | anothy_x | yeah, just caught that. anyone know how much? |
| 02:18.00 | ojwb | simplistically I suspect |
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| 02:18.13 | flouger | bot parses man files / help files |
| 02:18.13 | summatusmentis | WinterMute: I don't know if it does all of them, that's the only I've ever seen |
| 02:18.18 | Ori_B | summatusmentis: if it's a single CLI app, it's probably too trivial for SoC |
| 02:18.31 | cibolofeo | @flouger http://www.codeplex.com/commandlinegui |
| 02:18.46 | ojwb | s/(s)(.)\1p(e)ct/g\2\3\1\1 |
| 02:18.58 | ojwb | not so clever no, eh ibot? |
| 02:19.00 | summatusmentis | Ori_B: well, for instance, OpenAFS only has cli commans |
| 02:19.08 | flouger | no releases for it though |
| 02:19.59 | summatusmentis | commands* |
| 02:20.00 | cibolofeo | but its an opensource project/org. talk to them and see if they are applying for gsoc |
| 02:20.39 | Ori_B | summatusmentis: yeah, but unless the commands are especially pathological, a simple GUI wrapper around them is probably a week's worth of work |
| 02:21.16 | ojwb | thinks the idea is it would be a generic tool which automatically wrapped anything sane |
| 02:21.16 | Ori_B | doing more (like, maybe, a remote network browser that you could use to browse hosts, or something) would probably be worthwhile |
| 02:21.21 | summatusmentis | there are about 3 levels of specificity, for 3 different commands |
| 02:21.45 | Ori_B | ojwb: well, that's not really doable without lots of manual overrides |
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| 02:21.48 | ojwb | but it seems it's likely to need a lot of configuring to do a good job |
| 02:21.48 | summatusmentis | but yes, that's true |
| 02:21.50 | ojwb | yeah |
| 02:21.55 | ojwb | didn't say it was a great idea |
| 02:21.56 | Ori_B | git command --help pulls up a manpage |
| 02:21.57 | WinterMute | but, but ... the command line is sacrosanct :p |
| 02:22.11 | Ori_B | fortune -h gives output like '[-afilosw]' |
| 02:22.15 | Ori_B | and so on |
| 02:22.16 | ojwb | e.g. imagine a dialog box autogenerated from wget --help |
| 02:22.38 | Ori_B | 'ls --help' has large blocks of descriptive text at the end |
| 02:22.40 | WinterMute | or curl --help |
| 02:23.06 | Ori_B | and most of the others don't give enough info for the things that should be spinboxes or something |
| 02:23.15 | Ori_B | so yeah, just about every CLI app is a pathological case :O |
| 02:24.12 | WinterMute | might be better looking for a command line app that an org produces which might benefit from having a GUI |
| 02:24.23 | Ori_B | definitely. |
| 02:24.43 | Ori_B | and then the project should be more than just a simple GUI wrapper; it should probably add some extra functionality. |
| 02:24.47 | ojwb | flouger: rather than having an idea and trying to find an org to fit it to, you'll probably be more successful to find some interesting sounding orgs and either pick something from their ideas list or think of ideas related to them |
| 02:24.53 | flouger | the app would use a defined file format to create the gui's, a script would parse a file and make a best guess at the gui, a website would host tailored gui's for specific command line interfaces, and the tailored guis would support piping interfaces, check boxes for flags, open file dialogs to pick files, and maybe radio boxes |
| 02:25.36 | cibolofeo | flouger: hotwire is something else to look at. there is a release hosted on google. http://code.google.com/p/hotwire-shell/ |
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| 02:36.09 | Landon | interesting idea, just saw a lexus commercial |
| 02:36.16 | Landon | apparently the headlights turn with the wheel :oi |
| 02:36.16 | Landon | likes |
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| 02:36.31 | SSolutions | hi |
| 02:36.46 | SSolutions | all the @'s work for google/ |
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| 02:38.31 | summatusmentis | SSolutions: what? |
| 02:39.02 | borja | SSolutions: if you're asking if all the channel ops work for Google, I don't think that's the case |
| 02:39.20 | SSolutions | can I work for google too? |
| 02:39.29 | scorche | SSolutions: not all of us do...just most |
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| 02:39.55 | scorche | and this isnt a google recruitment channel or anything... |
| 02:40.17 | SSolutions | I see |
| 02:40.24 | summatusmentis | scorche: you're not a google employee are you? |
| 02:40.27 | scorche | nope |
| 02:40.32 | Ori_B | scorche: ...it isn't? damnit. |
| 02:40.34 | SSolutions | I was told they were handing out applications here |
| 02:40.35 | summatusmentis | ok, that's what I thought |
| 02:40.38 | Ori_B | can I get hired anyways? |
| 02:40.40 | Ori_B | ;-P |
| 02:40.52 | summatusmentis | SSolutions: who'd you hear this from? |
| 02:40.54 | scorche | Ori_B: get in line behind me =P |
| 02:40.56 | borja | SSolutions: This is the channel for Google Summer of Code |
| 02:40.58 | borja | !faq |
| 02:40.58 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 02:41.22 | summatusmentis | Ori_B: I assume it's just that easy :-D |
| 02:41.26 | SSolutions | if it's Gogle SOC, why is the faq hosted @ appspot.com ? |
| 02:41.38 | scorche | appspot is a google domain |
| 02:41.42 | impl | 'cause they're trying to trick you |
| 02:41.45 | summatusmentis | like blogspot |
| 02:41.46 | impl | into giving you their personal information |
| 02:41.49 | Landon | the cake is a lie! |
| 02:42.02 | summatusmentis | no, just your cake Landon |
| 02:42.08 | Landon | :( |
| 02:42.10 | summatusmentis | goes to eat cake |
| 02:42.11 | impl | there are lies, damn lies, and Google-owned domain names! |
| 02:42.17 | borja | mmm cake |
| 02:42.21 | Ori_B | scorche: actually, I'm aiming for Bell Labs this summer :P |
| 02:42.25 | Landon | I'm eating ice cream |
| 02:42.27 | Landon | but there is no cake |
| 02:42.33 | Landon | Ori_B: hot! :P |
| 02:42.37 | SSolutions | ok, good guys |
| 02:42.40 | scorche | Ori_B: that might be fun |
| 02:42.40 | SSolutions | good night |
| 02:42.46 | summatusmentis | Ori_B: to do what then? |
| 02:42.56 | anothy_x | Ori_B: i knew you sounded familiar. :-) |
| 02:43.25 | Ori_B | anothy_x: hm? |
| 02:43.42 | Landon | !logs |
| 02:43.42 | socinfo | "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
| 02:43.47 | Landon | :o |
| 02:43.51 | scorche | !stats |
| 02:43.51 | socinfo | I have 4 registered users with 20 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 02:43.55 | Landon | oh we have both now! |
| 02:43.58 | scorche | !stat |
| 02:43.58 | socinfo | Error: "stat" is not a valid command. |
| 02:44.01 | scorche | hmph |
| 02:44.22 | anothy_x | Ori_B: for whatever reason, i have a mental block against matching nicks cross-channel. |
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| 02:45.07 | Landon | tcoppi: hai |
| 02:45.13 | tcoppi | hi |
| 02:45.17 | tcoppi | still down :| |
| 02:45.19 | Landon | damn |
| 02:45.22 | Ori_B | anothy_x: yeah, I thought you were from #9fans, but you don't seem to be in there right now |
| 02:45.27 | Landon | mine was back up witin 15 min :P |
| 02:45.29 | tcoppi | did yours ever come back? |
| 02:45.30 | tcoppi | :| |
| 02:45.34 | Landon | hehehe |
| 02:45.36 | tcoppi | this is crap |
| 02:45.41 | tcoppi | it was up for over 1 year with no downtime |
| 02:45.56 | Ori_B | summatusmentis: with any luck, I'll be doing Plan 9 stuff |
| 02:46.19 | summatusmentis | Ori_B: that OS thing? |
| 02:46.32 | Ori_B | summatusmentis: yes. |
| 02:46.48 | summatusmentis | hmm... fair enough |
| 02:46.51 | Landon | really liked inferno |
| 02:46.55 | Landon | I think that was the thingy |
| 02:47.00 | Landon | the interface |
| 02:47.09 | Landon | but other than that... :P yeah |
| 02:47.10 | anothy_x | yup, inferno is good stuff, too. Plan 9's cousin. |
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| 02:49.16 | summatusmentis | I gues I don't understand the point |
| 02:49.51 | Landon | because they can? |
| 02:50.00 | Ori_B | summatusmentis: I just felt like contributing to an eyesore :P |
| 02:50.05 | summatusmentis | haha |
| 02:50.08 | anothy_x | lots of good reasons, but they depend on the domain. |
| 02:50.16 | summatusmentis | Landon: that's enough of a reason, I suppose |
| 02:50.17 | Ori_B | (ok; I'm joking. but really, the default colors are kind of ugly) |
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| 02:50.31 | summatusmentis | I don't hold anything against it, just nothing that interests me really |
| 02:51.14 | anothy_x | look at the BlueGene project. they can't stick Linux on all the compute nodes (and even if they could, it's very "noisy"). Plan 9 gives them a full OS with less overhead, and really nice resource distribution. |
| 02:51.41 | Ori_B | anothy_x: :) exactly. |
| 02:51.42 | anothy_x | it gets a pretty different set of benefits in embedded systems, though. the "point" is domain-specific (as it would be for any real solution, i guess) |
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| 02:51.56 | Ori_B | although right now Blue Gene uses it's own custom bare-bones OS |
| 02:51.58 | Ori_B | (Puma?) |
| 02:52.21 | Ori_B | which has no scheduler noise at all, since it doesn't have a scheduler, IIRC |
| 02:52.33 | anothy_x | sometimes. it also runs Plan 9. the papers on dealing with the multiple weird networks in there are really good reads. |
| 02:53.21 | Ori_B | anothy_x: how often is Plan 9 actually used by researchers on it? |
| 02:53.24 | anothy_x | right, puma (or whatever it's called) is the thing that the application developers don't like using because it's too bare, too unlike a "real" os. |
| 02:53.49 | anothy_x | no idea, personally. i haven't a clue what the machine is used for at all, other than figureing out how to use machines that large. :-) |
| 02:54.04 | Ori_B | yeah, there isn't that much info on it on the web. |
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| 02:55.15 | Landon | summatusmentis: there goes my alt key |
| 02:55.21 | Landon | all the text just rubbed off of it |
| 02:55.35 | Landon | right shift key is going soon |
| 02:55.38 | summatusmentis | oh no, does that happen often? |
| 02:55.42 | Landon | (seeing how it's the only one I use) |
| 02:55.43 | summatusmentis | that's not reassuring |
| 02:55.48 | Landon | heh |
| 02:55.57 | Landon | just text on a key though, not too worrisome |
| 02:56.00 | anothy_x | i used to have an IBM clickykey with blank keycaps. that's how i learned to type. much fun. |
| 02:56.04 | Landon | I use it a lot as well |
| 02:56.25 | Ori_B | I need to get myself a clicky keyboard sometime. |
| 02:56.29 | Ori_B | I managed to kill mine. |
| 02:56.37 | impl | Model M \o/ |
| 02:56.43 | Landon | I dont know if I want to bother with one |
| 02:56.47 | Landon | my membrane model m suits me fine |
| 02:56.49 | anothy_x | mine got lost in a move. i still have the original keycaps in a plastic bag. :-( |
| 02:56.54 | Landon | and I'm trying to get used to my alphagrip |
| 02:56.57 | Ori_B | it didn't like my coffee... after washing it, the 'm' and 'n' keys were still switched :( |
| 02:57.10 | impl | I don't recommend them if you have a roommate :P |
| 02:57.10 | anothy_x | i'd love one again now that i don't have a housemate. they're awful for co-habitation. |
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| 02:57.16 | anothy_x | yeah, exactly. :-) |
| 02:57.21 | impl | :> |
| 02:57.22 | Ori_B | impl: mine was great for when I had a roommate. |
| 02:57.34 | Ori_B | (revenge for his rap.) |
| 02:57.40 | Landon | Ori_B: is that how you'd get him out of the room when ladies were coming over? |
| 02:57.40 | Landon | ;) |
| 02:57.41 | impl | haha |
| 02:57.58 | anothy_x | Happy Hacker is my favorite. too much cash for the good ones, though. |
| 02:59.11 | Ori_B | currently I'm on a reasonable MS multimedia keyboartd |
| 02:59.16 | Ori_B | it's not great, but it does the job. |
| 02:59.35 | skiquel | www.twitter.com/planetsoc |
| 03:00.38 | summatusmentis | Landon: I don't really wanna give up my macbook keyboard for an eee keyboard that rubs off |
| 03:00.47 | anothy_x | who/what is that? |
| 03:00.58 | summatusmentis | which? |
| 03:01.00 | Landon | :P |
| 03:01.03 | Landon | can't win them all, summatusmentis |
| 03:01.04 | anothy_x | planetsoc |
| 03:01.09 | summatusmentis | Landon: true |
| 03:01.13 | Landon | HLY COW THATS A HUGE BINDER |
| 03:01.15 | summatusmentis | anothy_x: no idea |
| 03:01.19 | Landon | it wasl ike... almost a foot thick! |
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| 03:01.28 | Raim | skiquel: what's this going to be? abuse of twitter for feed purposes? |
| 03:03.17 | Landon | Raim: ? |
| 03:03.30 | Raim | Landon: ! |
| 03:03.37 | Landon | INTERROBANG! |
| 03:03.53 | anothy_x | â½ |
| 03:03.53 | Landon | â½ |
| 03:03.55 | summatusmentis | also, How I met your mother reference |
| 03:04.00 | Landon | heh |
| 03:04.13 | anothy_x | ⺠|
| 03:04.17 | Raim | :D |
| 03:04.25 | anothy_x | unicode rocks. |
| 03:04.48 | anothy_x | (*ahem* and utf-8, thank you plan 9 ;-) *ahem*) |
| 03:05.33 | borja | â« whistles â« |
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| 03:07.16 | skiquel | Raim: ? |
| 03:07.55 | Raim | skiquel: I mean, who is going to tweet there? |
| 03:08.17 | Landon | whoa |
| 03:08.21 | skiquel | Are you familiar with planet-soc? |
| 03:08.23 | Landon | someone on facebook used an interrobang |
| 03:08.24 | Landon | o.O |
| 03:08.43 | Landon | that was random |
| 03:08.44 | Raim | skiquel: planetsoc ist a blog-planet, but are you just going to feed the blog-links? |
| 03:09.07 | skiquel | Oh, dear no |
| 03:09.33 | skiquel | Not on twitter at least. |
| 03:10.23 | Raim | skiquel: ok, that's all what I wanted to know. |
| 03:10.52 | Raim | skiquel: many (news) sites started to use twitter just to push headlines and links |
| 03:11.54 | ojwb | most people just seem to use it to further ruin their productivity |
| 03:11.59 | ojwb | must ... resist ... twitter |
| 03:12.34 | Raim | ojwb: depends. there are different types of people at twitter. and I think you are refering to those tweeting every 3 minutes ;) |
| 03:12.36 | Landon | ojwb: bite the bullet, keep it private, don't follow any newspushers |
| 03:12.54 | Landon | Raim: I think he's referring to those pushing their RSS feed to twitter :P |
| 03:13.19 | ojwb | Raim is closer |
| 03:13.47 | ojwb | it's kind of like a blog post, only just as it starts to get interesting, you hit the character limit |
| 03:14.22 | Landon | hahaha |
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| 03:24.07 | summatusmentis | <3s his twitter |
| 03:24.50 | Landon | uses it when he has nothing else to do |
| 03:25.09 | Ori_B | has no twitter |
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| 03:26.42 | summatusmentis | Landon: are the keys on your eee slightly concave? |
| 03:27.29 | joshp | twit sounds like an insult, makes me not want to be a twitterer |
| 03:28.23 | Landon | summatusmentis: not noticably, but yes |
| 03:28.43 | summatusmentis | well, will it bug me coming form a mac? :) |
| 03:30.25 | Landon | I've never used a mac :P |
| 03:31.10 | summatusmentis | so then I suppose you've never tried osx86 either huh? |
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| 03:33.29 | mib_5cu9b3dg | anyone apping for crystalspace3D in gsoc 09? |
| 03:34.03 | Landon | summatusmentis: ? |
| 03:34.08 | joshp | how do you know what orgs are to choose? |
| 03:34.14 | Landon | is that the OS X on "normal" hardware? |
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| 03:34.24 | Landon | no, I've never used OS X either, I've never had the desire :P |
| 03:34.27 | Landon | other than the 5 minutes once |
| 03:34.30 | Landon | where I had to transfer a file |
| 03:34.32 | Landon | and managed freaking out |
| 03:34.37 | Landon | because I thought I closed a window |
| 03:34.41 | Landon | when it flitted out of existence |
| 03:35.06 | Landon | I have a friend wanting to put OS X on his netbook though |
| 03:35.07 | Landon | \>.< |
| 03:35.24 | Ori_B | would like to play around with a mac |
| 03:35.40 | Ori_B | but I dislike Apple the company, and they don't make any machines I'm interested in anyways |
| 03:35.46 | mib_5cu9b3dg | i used osx on my intel pc |
| 03:35.48 | Landon | (I'm sorry if I describe anyone, but!) and he has all his pseudo-techy friends telling him its ag ood idea |
| 03:36.04 | Landon | you know, the ones that install OS's left and right because they can, but ultimately only use Windows |
| 03:36.19 | Landon | Ori_B: mac mini would be interesting if it was A) cheaper or B) more powerful |
| 03:36.31 | impl | C) actually shaped like a space ship |
| 03:36.42 | Landon | would be a nice HTPC box, if most HTPC stuff wasnt black |
| 03:36.43 | Landon | :P |
| 03:36.48 | Landon | impl o.O |
| 03:36.49 | anothy_x | d) actually *worked* like a space ship. |
| 03:36.49 | Ori_B | Landon: yeah. |
| 03:37.56 | Ori_B | alternatively, something between the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro |
| 03:38.02 | Ori_B | or a touch screen laptop. |
| 03:38.04 | Landon | heh that too |
| 03:38.17 | Landon | that'd be hot but ultimately *way* too expensive |
| 03:38.31 | Landon | I've thought about modding my eeepc to have a touch screen, but I dont think theres enough space in a 900 :( |
| 03:38.37 | Landon | for the associated controller |
| 03:39.04 | Ori_B | yeah. I have a fairly nice tablet right now, anyways |
| 03:39.19 | Ori_B | (Fujitsu T2010. everything works perfectly in Linux.) |
| 03:39.28 | summatusmentis | I should put windows back on my tablet |
| 03:39.36 | summatusmentis | or figure out how to fix linux on it |
| 03:39.44 | summatusmentis | also, replacing screen would be good :) |
| 03:40.15 | summatusmentis | Landon: what kind of case do you use? |
| 03:40.22 | Landon | case? |
| 03:40.27 | summatusmentis | for the eee |
| 03:40.31 | Landon | I use the little slip that comes with it |
| 03:40.39 | summatusmentis | oh, it comes with a sleeve? |
| 03:40.44 | Landon | ultimately it gets into more accidents when it's not in there than when it is ;) |
| 03:40.50 | Landon | yeah, at least mine did |
| 03:41.01 | Landon | velcro flap and it's a little padded |
| 03:41.13 | Landon | probably and eighth inches worth |
| 03:41.19 | Landon | s/and/an |
| 03:41.40 | summatusmentis | huh |
| 03:42.28 | Landon | it'd honestly be fine without a case though |
| 03:42.31 | Landon | it's a hardy little thing |
| 03:42.32 | summatusmentis | I'm using an older version of http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/laptop/laptop-cases/blockhead-quilted-laptop-sleeve |
| 03:42.36 | summatusmentis | right now |
| 03:42.48 | Landon | Ive dropped it several times and it's only got a slight indent on one corner |
| 03:43.01 | Landon | which looks like it could have been designed in |
| 03:43.37 | summatusmentis | how do you drop it? |
| 03:43.44 | summatusmentis | also, no magsafe :( |
| 03:43.48 | Landon | http://www.flickr.com/photos/johndecember/2280386168/ |
| 03:44.00 | Landon | its small enough to keep on one side of the binder while writing notes on the other |
| 03:44.07 | Landon | (I use engineering paper, so only one sides worth of notes) |
| 03:44.29 | Landon | I lift up the binder a bit or shift it a little and the center of gravity pops over the ridiculously small desk :P |
| 03:44.43 | Landon | or sitting it on the arm of my recliner |
| 03:44.46 | summatusmentis | oh, yeah, I know how that goes |
| 03:45.53 | summatusmentis | I consistently drop text books because of that :) |
| 03:46.39 | Landon | heh |
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| 03:53.43 | allisterb | hello all |
| 03:53.49 | summatusmentis | hi allisterb |
| 03:54.11 | allisterb | hey summatusmentis how's it going |
| 03:54.18 | Landon | hi allisterb |
| 03:54.28 | allisterb | Ori_B o/ |
| 03:54.30 | Landon | tcoppi: has your ticket been fixed yet! |
| 03:54.38 | Ori_B | allisterb: hey |
| 03:54.42 | tcoppi | nope |
| 03:55.02 | summatusmentis | allisterb: going well enough, I suppose |
| 03:55.13 | summatusmentis | obsessing about grad school instead of doing web design work like I should be |
| 03:55.26 | allisterb | what are you studying? |
| 03:55.45 | summatusmentis | I'm a computer science and spanish major |
| 03:55.51 | summatusmentis | but I'm I'm only a sophomore |
| 03:55.57 | Landon | is glad he's more on the hardware side of things |
| 03:56.00 | Landon | physical product :) |
| 03:56.06 | summatusmentis | psh |
| 03:56.20 | Landon | which one hurts more when I throw it at you! :P |
| 03:56.48 | summatusmentis | well, good luck hitting me from Kansas |
| 03:57.35 | Landon | well |
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| 03:57.45 | Landon | you've gotta be within 1500 mi if my guess is right |
| 03:57.46 | Landon | :P |
| 03:57.58 | summatusmentis | haha, currently? or in general? |
| 03:58.32 | allisterb | Anybody hyped for the new Star Trek movie? |
| 03:58.42 | summatusmentis | Google Maps says middle of Kansas to middle of ME is 1900 mi |
| 03:58.53 | summatusmentis | allisterb: I'm super excited, and I never watched any start trek |
| 03:58.55 | summatusmentis | star* |
| 03:59.06 | Landon | damn |
| 04:00.05 | mib_5cu9b3dg | wht abt the new wolverine mov,i think it'll be awesome |
| 04:00.18 | allisterb | yeah |
| 04:00.22 | summatusmentis | again, looks cool, but I never read any comic books :) |
| 04:00.33 | summatusmentis | I was a bad nerd child |
| 04:00.54 | Landon | eh |
| 04:01.08 | allisterb | I watch star trek TOS sometimes. It's good - good stories. |
| 04:01.19 | Landon | I want to go see coraline again |
| 04:01.27 | Landon | that's about as far as my movie aadventures will go for a while |
| 04:01.34 | summatusmentis | really? I wasn't that intrigued by it |
| 04:01.43 | Landon | I like it |
| 04:01.47 | Landon | but I'm a neil gaiman fan in general |
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| 04:01.53 | z4chh | i watch star trek voyager right now |
| 04:02.13 | Landon | and it's in THREE DEE :P |
| 04:02.14 | Landon | costly |
| 04:02.15 | Landon | but cool |
| 04:02.26 | summatusmentis | hrm |
| 04:02.31 | anothy_x | coraline is Gaiman's? |
| 04:02.35 | Landon | yeah |
| 04:02.44 | Landon | from the book |
| 04:02.46 | anothy_x | had now idea. now it's on my watch list. |
| 04:03.27 | allisterb | who watched the watchmen? |
| 04:03.41 | Landon | I didn't |
| 04:03.42 | anothy_x | tomorrow. |
| 04:03.44 | summatusmentis | anothy_x: are you a student? mentor? |
| 04:03.47 | Landon | not too intrigued by it |
| 04:03.49 | joeyadams | I read in the GSoC FAQ that sending a W9 to Google is part of the application process. Couldn't I apply, then send my W9 only if I'm accepted? |
| 04:03.49 | Landon | except for all the hype |
| 04:03.51 | summatusmentis | watchmen was good :-D |
| 04:03.59 | joeyadams | (if in the United States) |
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| 04:04.12 | summatusmentis | I did read that one |
| 04:04.14 | Landon | joeyadams: you only do that if you get accepted |
| 04:04.22 | anothy_x | admin, possibly a mentor (provided we get accepted, and depending which projects students want to work on) |
| 04:04.22 | summatusmentis | joeyadams: that's ow it works |
| 04:04.23 | joeyadams | Okay, thanks |
| 04:04.38 | summatusmentis | anothy_x: what org? |
| 04:04.48 | joeyadams | I just didn't want them having my social security number unless I was getting some money for it :) |
| 04:04.49 | anothy_x | plan9 |
| 04:04.55 | summatusmentis | oh, hrr |
| 04:05.02 | anothy_x | a-yup. ;-) |
| 04:05.25 | tcoppi | Landon: its back now |
| 04:05.33 | Landon | DNS? |
| 04:05.36 | tcoppi | some networking problems |
| 04:05.38 | tcoppi | probably not |
| 04:05.52 | tcoppi | yeah dns is up too |
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| 05:07.20 | Huy | mornig |
| 05:08.40 | skiquel | hi dmitrig01|afk |
| 05:09.45 | dmitrig01|afk | hi |
| 05:15.21 | Landon | is going to learn some card tricks |
| 05:15.22 | Landon | or coin tricks |
| 05:15.23 | Landon | hm |
| 05:19.07 | Landon | todays XKCD is great |
| 05:19.11 | Landon | not even tcoppi can deny it :o |
| 05:19.20 | tcoppi | i deny it |
| 05:19.37 | tcoppi | i liked friday's |
| 05:19.42 | Landon | what was fridays? |
| 05:19.58 | Landon | oh |
| 05:20.00 | tcoppi | the mirro |
| 05:20.00 | Landon | that was lame |
| 05:20.01 | tcoppi | r |
| 05:20.05 | tcoppi | no u :p |
| 05:20.05 | Landon | don quixote > bloody mary |
| 05:20.11 | tcoppi | gaga |
| 05:20.15 | tcoppi | haha even |
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| 05:33.16 | kblin | morning folks |
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| 05:35.44 | thebolt | hi kblin |
| 05:40.38 | thebolt | what's up? |
| 05:40.58 | kblin | me.. :/ |
| 05:41.09 | kblin | it's not even 7:00 yet |
| 05:41.51 | kblin | but my gf's alarm clock woke me up, and I'm really bad at going back to sleep if it's not in the middle of the night |
| 05:42.47 | Landon | sleep mask++ |
| 05:42.53 | Landon | fo'serious |
| 05:43.42 | kblin | doesn't help against alarm clocks |
| 05:43.51 | Landon | it does for going back to sleep :P |
| 05:44.03 | kblin | no, too irritating |
| 05:44.17 | kblin | besides, it's still dark in the bedroom |
| 05:47.24 | thebolt | i don't have any problems falling asleep again |
| 05:47.35 | thebolt | however.. no gf so if an alarm clock rings it's mine and i should get up |
| 05:52.42 | nuth | sleeping masks actually work pretty great |
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| 06:02.04 | Landon | yeah, just need to get one with space for your eyes to dotheir thing |
| 06:02.28 | Landon | only problem I have with mine is I can see light around my nose |
| 06:02.32 | Landon | but thats a "feature" :P |
| 06:02.54 | thebolt | i cannot stand them |
| 06:03.01 | thebolt | never use one ever |
| 06:03.22 | thebolt | on the other hand i have no problem falling asleep sitting in a chair in light environment mid-day ;) |
| 06:03.37 | Landon | I don't either |
| 06:03.50 | Landon | but, they do improve the quality of my sleep in a lit environment |
| 06:04.58 | Landon | kind of like ear plugs, if you've gotten used to a computer in the same room, it's amazing how quiet it is |
| 06:05.12 | Landon | but I don't use them, for fear of not being able to hear my roommate trying to turn my alarm off |
| 06:05.13 | thebolt | heh yea |
| 06:05.47 | thebolt | i used to have two desktops (my own and a server) in my small room back in sweden.. now there is nothing making sound all night (except my snoring room-mate :P) |
| 06:06.19 | Landon | amazing how much you can still hear with them too,my alarm comes through loud and clear |
| 06:06.34 | Landon | just as good as with allt he ambient noise, if not better since it's about the only thing I hear |
| 06:06.48 | Landon | speaking of sleep hacks |
| 06:06.54 | Landon | I wonder how well those blankets with lights in them work |
| 06:07.21 | r0bby | this is frightening |
| 06:07.36 | r0bby | my project has a crapload of modules with like neext to no unit tests |
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| 06:18.46 | robinpahwa | Is there any list out yet for this year mentoring organizations ? |
| 06:19.22 | kblin | !when |
| 06:19.22 | socinfo | "when" is later |
| 06:19.22 | thebolt | no, still two days to go |
| 06:19.28 | kblin | and.. |
| 06:19.31 | kblin | !timeline |
| 06:19.31 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 06:20.25 | kblin | oh well, on the good side of getting up early, I already got a shitload of paperwork done |
| 06:20.58 | thebolt | kblin: :) |
| 06:21.02 | thebolt | but paperwork sucks ;) |
| 06:21.02 | robinpahwa | oh great |
| 06:21.02 | ojwb | socinfo: delete when |
| 06:21.03 | socinfo | Error: "delete" is not a valid command. |
| 06:21.09 | ojwb | socinfo: remove when |
| 06:21.09 | socinfo | Error: There is no such alias. |
| 06:21.17 | ojwb | hmm |
| 06:22.09 | ojwb | socinfo: learn when as Accepted mentoring organations are announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 06:22.10 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 06:22.14 | ojwb | !when |
| 06:22.14 | socinfo | "when" is (#1) later, or (#2) Accepted mentoring organations are announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 06:22.20 | kblin | ojwb: nooo |
| 06:22.22 | ojwb | hmm (2) |
| 06:22.25 | robinpahwa | kblin ... how many mentoring organizations did you select ;) |
| 06:22.26 | ojwb | noo? |
| 06:22.28 | kblin | you ruined my favourite factoid |
| 06:22.41 | kblin | socinfo: forget when |
| 06:22.41 | socinfo | Error: 2 factoids have that key. Please specify which one to remove, or use * to designate all of them. |
| 06:22.45 | kblin | socinfo: forget when 2 |
| 06:22.45 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 06:22.49 | ojwb | sorry |
| 06:22.56 | ojwb | be useful to have a factoid for that specifically |
| 06:23.05 | kblin | ojwb: we always liked the zen-like quality of it |
| 06:23.08 | ojwb | the timeline url is a bit broad |
| 06:23.09 | ojwb | sure |
| 06:23.31 | ojwb | !next |
| 06:23.32 | socinfo | Error: "next" is not a valid command. |
| 06:23.40 | kblin | ojwb: if people don't bother to read the timeline, I don't bother to reply to them |
| 06:23.44 | ojwb | socinfo: learn next as Accepted mentoring organations are announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 06:23.44 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 06:24.46 | robinpahwa | kblin i read it already |
| 06:24.50 | kblin | thebolt: I know that paperwork sucks, but it still needs doing once in a while :) |
| 06:25.15 | kblin | robinpahwa: I was talking more about the general case |
| 06:25.35 | kblin | robinpahwa: it'll get worse during the student's application period |
| 06:25.37 | thebolt | kblin: i postpone it until last minute when i am forced to do it. .or do it directly when i get the papers so i don't have to do it later :) |
| 06:25.56 | kblin | thebolt: I _try_ to do the latter |
| 06:25.58 | kblin | never works |
| 06:26.17 | robinpahwa | kblin, ha ha .... u r right |
| 06:27.11 | robinpahwa | kblin tell me one thing, when student apply who chooses the student ? mentor or google |
| 06:28.41 | kblin | robinpahwa: the mentors rank the students, and google decides how many students per org they will fund |
| 06:29.23 | r0bby | sighs |
| 06:32.11 | robinpahwa | kblin if a student applies to more than one organizations, is there ny chances he get selected in more than one org ? |
| 06:32.28 | thebolt | ni |
| 06:32.30 | kblin | no |
| 06:32.30 | thebolt | no* |
| 06:34.18 | robinpahwa | what if he ws ranked 1 in two organizations ? will the student have choice or google chooses randomly ? |
| 06:34.49 | ojwb | ideally he or she would be asked, but that might not happen |
| 06:34.59 | ojwb | there's a big irc meeting where it gets sorted out |
| 06:35.23 | kblin | robinpahwa: the two mentoring orgs meet in an arena with swords, pitchforks and nets and fight it out... ;) |
| 06:35.39 | kblin | or the IRC meeting.. I keep mixing those up |
| 06:35.51 | robinpahwa | ha ha :P |
| 06:36.51 | thebolt | kblin: got gsoc mixed up with mad max beyond thunderdome? ;) |
| 06:37.18 | thebolt | i do that all the time .P |
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| 06:46.30 | r0bby | kblin: I wanna see the arena with swords and pitchforks |
| 06:46.42 | r0bby | has a really funny image in my head now |
| 06:46.56 | r0bby | !kblin++ |
| 06:46.59 | r0bby | :) |
| 06:47.07 | r0bby | !karma kblin |
| 06:47.07 | socinfo | Karma for "kblin" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 06:47.14 | r0bby | oh no... |
| 06:47.18 | r0bby | may wanna disable that |
| 06:47.26 | r0bby | I can see this getting out of hand |
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| 06:51.13 | r0bby | hmm |
| 06:51.16 | r0bby | is ToXBoT a bot? |
| 06:52.34 | thebolt | well, just apply the turing test and we'llsee ;) |
| 06:52.44 | ojwb | he/she/it seemed to have some sort of looping trigger a few days ago, but then seemed to be a person |
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| 07:27.04 | zwanderer | Hi , i have a query |
| 07:28.47 | zwanderer | one of my friends has been banned from the gsoc mailing list due to his fault.. he wants to apologize to the admin, what's the procedure ? |
| 07:29.25 | r0bby | what did your friend d? |
| 07:29.29 | r0bby | do* |
| 07:29.35 | r0bby | he can probably email lh |
| 07:29.50 | zwanderer | he posted about his firefox plugin :P |
| 07:30.24 | zwanderer | and asked people to try it out... being a n00b he didnt know that gsoc mailing list doesnt serve that purpose |
| 07:30.28 | r0bby | Why is your friend having you do this? If he was truly sorry, he'd be here |
| 07:30.30 | r0bby | Not you |
| 07:30.47 | r0bby | not an admin, just an outside observation |
| 07:30.55 | zwanderer | can you give me the email ID of the admin, or moderator who can do the same. |
| 07:31.20 | r0bby | I can't/won't. Wait and talk to lh |
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| 07:32.31 | r0bby | zwanderer: again it's probably gonna be questioned why YOU are doing this and not your friend? |
| 07:32.41 | r0bby | I know I'd question it |
| 07:32.50 | zwanderer | wait |
| 07:32.57 | bijolianabhi | sir |
| 07:33.13 | zwanderer | bijolianabhi : you can talk to lh |
| 07:33.35 | zwanderer | r0bby it's him |
| 07:34.32 | bijolianabhi | I am bijolianabhi@gmail.com and unfortunatelly i wrote an spam on tht |
| 07:34.47 | bijolianabhi | now i am feeling soory and want to rejoin it |
| 07:36.06 | r0bby | bijolianabhi: you likely got an email from Chris Dibona |
| 07:36.11 | r0bby | probably can email him |
| 07:36.39 | r0bby | bijolianabhi: assuming you archive all emails -- you have lh's email |
| 07:37.06 | r0bby | as well |
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| 07:42.20 | ToXBoT | r0bby, Ya, I'm a person! ;) |
| 07:42.47 | ToXBoT | ojwb, that wasn't a looping trigger, I forgot to leave the channels before starting my experimentations.. :D |
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| 07:52.18 | WinterMute | wow, 395 orgs applied in the end |
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| 07:56.44 | joshp | how many accepted? |
| 07:57.20 | ojwb | none yet |
| 07:57.21 | alexstre^ | we'll know on wednesday |
| 07:57.26 | ojwb | probably around 150 lh said |
| 07:58.30 | ojwb | toxbot: I did say "seemed to"! |
| 07:58.44 | alexstre^ | I'm hoping I can find a project that would let me code in obj-c this summer |
| 07:59.14 | r0bby | !next |
| 07:59.14 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organations are announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
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| 08:17.22 | djc | is it correct that co-admin roles aren't granted until the application is accepted or something? |
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| 08:20.05 | kblin | well invites aren't sent before that |
| 08:20.22 | ojwb | djc: I think it was a bug/missed feature that backup admins couldn't see the application, if that's what you mean |
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| 08:20.39 | kblin | yeah, there's a feature request out for that |
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| 08:20.53 | djc | kblin: got a link for me? |
| 08:21.11 | bijolianabh1 | hey some help me |
| 08:21.47 | kblin | !bugs |
| 08:21.47 | socinfo | Error: "bugs" is not a valid command. |
| 08:21.59 | kblin | le sigh |
| 08:22.12 | kblin | djc: sure, let me check |
| 08:22.56 | kblin | djc: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=329 |
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| 08:23.34 | djc | kblin: thanks! |
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| 08:23.54 | kblin | socinfo: learn bugs as Melange bugs are tracked at http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list |
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| 08:24.03 | kblin | !features |
| 08:24.03 | socinfo | Error: "features" is not a valid command. |
| 08:24.15 | kblin | socinfo: learn features as See !bugs |
| 08:24.15 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 08:24.44 | alexstre^ | that took an interesting path |
| 08:24.58 | bijolianabhi | help me out |
| 08:25.19 | kblin | not if you don't tell us what you need help with |
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| 08:26.40 | bijolianabhi | due to being a newbee on channel I did a spam on channel and i was banned now i feel my fault so want to rejoin it |
| 08:26.48 | bijolianabhi | what to do? |
| 08:27.03 | ojwb | !features |
| 08:27.04 | socinfo | "features" is See !bugs |
| 08:27.09 | PeepOle | bijolianabhi: What do you mean by spam on channel? |
| 08:27.21 | PeepOle | brunocardoso_: What did you do? |
| 08:27.23 | PeepOle | opps |
| 08:27.28 | PeepOle | *oops |
| 08:27.31 | ojwb | bijolianabhi: try again next life? |
| 08:27.37 | PeepOle | :( |
| 08:27.58 | kblin | bijolianabhi: talk to the ops of that channel? |
| 08:28.17 | ojwb | you'll probably need to wait until it isn't the middle of the night in california |
| 08:28.25 | r0bby | zzzz |
| 08:28.28 | r0bby | i leep |
| 08:28.56 | PeepOle | leep? |
| 08:29.02 | kblin | ojwb: what's that got to do with it? |
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| 08:30.50 | spectie | mornin' all |
| 08:31.32 | PeepOle | Hey. "+++ ChanServ has given voice to PeepOle" What does this mean? |
| 08:31.40 | ojwb | he's not getting any response now, so I'm guessing no list admins are here |
| 08:31.54 | spectie | PeepOle, it means you have voice |
| 08:32.02 | spectie | which means that you can talk even if the channel is +m (moderated) |
| 08:32.05 | ojwb | seems quite likely they're all google people, and a lot of them are in CA |
| 08:33.06 | PeepOle | Do I have voice here? |
| 08:33.24 | kblin | ojwb: oh, I was thinking IRC |
| 08:33.30 | kblin | he's not banned here |
| 08:33.32 | ojwb | kblin: no, the mailing list |
| 08:33.36 | ojwb | he said earlier |
| 08:33.41 | thebolt | PeepOle: no, its on a channel per channel basis and nobody have voice here |
| 08:33.48 | kblin | ah, those'd be google people |
| 08:33.57 | ojwb | taps fingers |
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| 08:35.44 | kblin | PeepOle: I know channels where voice is a "caution, keeps asking stupid questions" flag |
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| 08:36.38 | spectie | haha kblin |
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| 08:36.42 | spectie | that's pretty cool |
| 08:36.44 | spectie | repurposing |
| 08:37.08 | PeepOle | :( |
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| 08:39.41 | kblin | PeepOle: I'm just saying that it's use on non-moderated channels can differ |
| 08:39.51 | kblin | anyway, off to sports |
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| 09:12.07 | jack | good afternoon everyone |
| 09:12.23 | spectie | hi jack |
| 09:12.49 | blackhat | now that's better |
| 09:12.52 | blackhat | hi spectie |
| 09:14.37 | PeepOle | hi mohit |
| 09:15.19 | JackSparrow | phew |
| 09:15.25 | JackSparrow | finally got the nick right |
| 09:15.31 | JackSparrow | m new to this IRC thing |
| 09:15.41 | JackSparrow | i always knew it existed but never used it |
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| 09:16.05 | PeepOle | mumbaiwala? |
| 09:16.21 | JackSparrow | nah |
| 09:16.23 | JackSparrow | goa |
| 09:16.26 | JackSparrow | :P |
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| 09:16.44 | JackSparrow | what irc client are ppl using? |
| 09:16.49 | spectie | xchat |
| 09:16.55 | jhil | irssi |
| 09:16.57 | jasebo | chatzilla |
| 09:17.18 | JackSparrow | ah |
| 09:17.23 | JackSparrow | i got mirc |
| 09:17.34 | JackSparrow | perhaps it isn't that good |
| 09:17.38 | JackSparrow | ? |
| 09:17.43 | danderson | wrong OS is all |
| 09:17.47 | jhil | it's ok, but it's not free ;) |
| 09:17.56 | JackSparrow | ah |
| 09:18.06 | JackSparrow | me a pirate ;P |
| 09:18.14 | JackSparrow | of the arabian |
| 09:18.15 | spectie | JackSparrow, why not get xchat for windows ? |
| 09:18.20 | spectie | http://www.silverex.org |
| 09:18.24 | spectie | it's free software |
| 09:18.29 | PeepOle | mibbit mibbit mibbit |
| 09:18.35 | PeepOle | :P |
| 09:18.37 | JackSparrow | i dun lik the icon |
| 09:18.44 | PeepOle | haha |
| 09:18.44 | spectie | JackSparrow, why not ? |
| 09:18.48 | JackSparrow | i m too much of an eye candy person |
| 09:18.52 | JackSparrow | :P |
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| 09:19.14 | PeepOle | pidgin good candy for eye too |
| 09:19.15 | spectie | yes, mirc really is 'eye candy' |
| 09:19.34 | danderson | it is? |
| 09:19.40 | danderson | I remember it looking like shit. |
| 09:19.41 | JackSparrow | yep just trying that |
| 09:19.43 | spectie | my sarcasm was thinly veiled |
| 09:19.47 | spectie | perhaps not thinly enough |
| 09:19.49 | JackSparrow | PeepOle \m/ |
| 09:19.53 | danderson | spectie: you should really get a sarcasm sign |
| 09:20.09 | spectie | o/~~~[SARCASM] |
| 09:20.10 | danderson | also, I just woke up, my sarcasm detector is not working yet |
| 09:20.15 | spectie | lol |
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| 09:21.07 | JackSparrow | now i will just reconnect |
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| 09:25.06 | Blackhat | i was not able to config pidgin |
| 09:25.10 | Blackhat | there's some prob |
| 09:25.18 | Blackhat | btw i am jacksparrow from moments ago |
| 09:25.44 | spectie | hi |
| 09:25.56 | JackSparrow | hi :) |
| 09:26.10 | JackSparrow | i can't configure pidgin |
| 09:26.27 | JackSparrow | this is what i get ---> ) NickServ: (notice) This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>. |
| 09:27.11 | spectie | JackSparrow, did you try giving it your password ? |
| 09:27.25 | JackSparrow | i don't have a password |
| 09:27.29 | spectie | i see |
| 09:27.33 | llnz | JackSparrow: it means that someone else has registered the username, and they will kick you off when they come online |
| 09:27.36 | spectie | did you try /j #gsoc |
| 09:27.36 | spectie | ? |
| 09:27.43 | JackSparrow | u can get a passowrd? |
| 09:27.48 | llnz | choose a different nickname |
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| 09:29.29 | schumaml | searching for "pidgin irc nickserv" might return some useful results |
| 09:29.54 | JackSparrow | ah |
| 09:30.07 | JackSparrow | and /j #gsoc is to typed when? |
| 09:30.37 | spectie | when you get the message about nickserv |
| 09:31.12 | JackSparrow | ohhh |
| 09:31.14 | JackSparrow | dumb me |
| 09:31.50 | PeepOle | <mage> what should I give sister for unzipping? <Kevyn> Um. Ten bucks? <mage> no I mean like, WinZip? |
| 09:32.08 | JackSparrow | LOL |
| 09:32.11 | PeepOle | :D |
| 09:32.21 | schumaml | recycling old bash.org entries, hm? |
| 09:32.29 | PeepOle | haha |
| 09:32.40 | aghisla | ... |
| 09:32.45 | PeepOle | :O |
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| 09:33.15 | aghisla | goes back reading unittest docs |
| 09:33.47 | JackSparrow | ab i choose a different nick and there's no response |
| 09:34.26 | JackSparrow | i mean in pidgin |
| 09:34.59 | JackSparrow | Pidgin rocks... almost... :'( |
| 09:37.05 | JackSparrow | anyone using pidgin? |
| 09:39.14 | spectie | yes |
| 09:39.17 | spectie | PeepOle, |
| 09:39.53 | PeepOle | whaat? |
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| 09:40.36 | PeepOle | no not using pidgin |
| 09:40.53 | PeepOle | But that's my fav |
| 09:45.02 | JackSparrow | i have to go now but will be back, and PeepOle will *HAVE* to help me configure pidgin |
| 09:46.29 | LeePope | *ahem* |
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| 09:49.42 | WinterMute | lol |
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| 10:24.00 | LeePope | Hi guys, anyone having problems with Gmail today? |
| 10:24.14 | LeePope | Or is it just me? |
| 10:25.03 | spectie | LeePope, i'm not having any trouble |
| 10:26.16 | LeePope | Nothing works, saving drafts or archiving. Always the message "Still working" |
| 10:26.21 | LeePope | :( |
| 10:26.42 | aghisla | reading mail from kmail, no problems... |
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| 10:33.11 | antarus | LeePope: web or IMAP? |
| 10:33.17 | antarus | (or pop?) |
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| 10:33.49 | spectie | antarus, gmail |
| 10:33.55 | spectie | i guess he means the web |
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| 10:35.40 | aghisla | bah it works |
| 10:36.00 | aghisla | goes back to her ugly code |
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| 10:37.04 | ferfax | i'm a student.Got info about GSoC about 3 days ago |
| 10:37.06 | antarus | spectie: I guess 'still working' was kind of a hint ;) |
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| 10:37.18 | spectie | hi ferfax |
| 10:37.22 | ferfax | can i still join the program? |
| 10:37.29 | spectie | ferfax, have you looked at the timeline? |
| 10:37.30 | spectie | !timeline |
| 10:37.31 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 10:37.41 | spectie | the organisations haven't been accepted yet |
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| 10:38.27 | antarus | scurries off |
| 10:39.36 | csauer | hi all, is there any public ical calendar with the gsoc 2009 dates? |
| 10:39.51 | aghisla | !timeline |
| 10:39.52 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 10:40.49 | csauer | oh great, thank you |
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| 11:32.34 | z00dax | thats not normally a good omen. |
| 11:32.43 | PeepOle | :O |
| 11:32.51 | z00dax | hope you were looking north and the chicken blood was fresh.. |
| 11:34.00 | PeepOle | z00dax: you are on CentOS :D |
| 11:34.29 | z00dax | is that not good ? |
| 11:34.51 | PeepOle | I was showing off my omnicience |
| 11:35.04 | PeepOle | *omniscience |
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| 11:36.29 | JackSparrow | yey |
| 11:36.37 | JackSparrow | i finally got connect using Pidgin |
| 11:36.45 | JackSparrow | thanks everyone who helped :) |
| 11:38.58 | JackSparrow | sophien and PeepOle to be specific |
| 11:42.05 | ajuonline | you are welcome |
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| 11:46.01 | ajuonline | kblin: awesome :) i think I should be there soon. |
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| 11:52.08 | spectie | people are working |
| 11:52.10 | spectie | sshh |
| 11:52.11 | spectie | :) |
| 11:52.22 | rkatiyar | yeah |
| 11:52.28 | rkatiyar | but wha are they workin on |
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| 13:57.08 | kblin | hehe |
| 13:57.36 | kblin | I found a pattern match in a gene called SCO4711.. how cute is that... |
| 13:57.52 | summatusmentis | I don't get it |
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| 13:59.19 | kblin | 4711 is a perfume |
| 13:59.32 | summatusmentis | oh, see, that'd do it |
| 13:59.44 | summatusmentis | I dont' follow womens scents |
| 13:59.46 | summatusmentis | don't* |
| 14:00.04 | Peet | one of our fellow Niggers is a Geneticist Nigger? |
| 14:00.07 | kblin | which makes it the default "random" number in all comp-sci lectures where you need a number bigger than 23 or 42 |
| 14:00.19 | Peet | oh living hell wrong channel |
| 14:00.55 | tumi | Peet: awkward! |
| 14:01.00 | Peet | yeeepppp |
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| 14:01.12 | summatusmentis | we're very definitely not 4chan, or derivatives |
| 14:01.14 | summatusmentis | :0D |
| 14:01.17 | straszheim | heh... rap + IRC + jk == fail |
| 14:01.18 | summatusmentis | :-D ** |
| 14:01.28 | lut4rp | lol 4chan |
| 14:02.14 | Peet | excuse me while I extract my foot which is so far down my digestive tract that it violates euclidean geometry |
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| 14:03.22 | thebolt | hi all |
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| 14:04.35 | thebolt | Peet: haha.. is hyperbolic or elliptic? ;) |
| 14:04.54 | Peet | both...at the same time |
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| 14:05.30 | LeePope | It is 2 days, 4 hours, 54 minutes and 37 seconds until Wednesday, March 18, 2009 at 7:00:00 PM (UTC time) |
| 14:05.58 | WinterMute | !faq |
| 14:05.58 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 14:06.48 | ojwb | there's a "~" in the timeline, so I wouldn't worry about the seconds... |
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| 14:08.02 | mlankhorst | in a mail to the us, where do you put the zip code? |
| 14:08.09 | mlankhorst | bottom right or something? |
| 14:08.49 | straszheim | last entry last line |
| 14:08.49 | Peet | assuming it's the same as postal codes in canada, just under the rest of the address (above USA) |
| 14:09.18 | cibolofeo | as long as its just after the state you should be good |
| 14:09.27 | mlankhorst | ah oke |
| 14:09.32 | mlankhorst | filing tax returns |
| 14:09.44 | kblin | ah, fun.. |
| 14:09.52 | mlankhorst | It is, I'm getting money back :) |
| 14:10.03 | WinterMute | hmm, anyone remember what that link for non US students was? |
| 14:10.15 | kblin | !faq |
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| 14:10.16 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 14:10.19 | WinterMute | thought it was in the faq but I can't see it now |
| 14:10.21 | kblin | hail webchick |
| 14:10.40 | kblin | WinterMute: what exactly are you looking for? |
| 14:10.51 | thebolt | hey webchick, been a while, how do you do? |
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| 14:11.00 | ajuonline | ^5's webchick |
| 14:11.41 | WinterMute | yesterday I had a UK student telling me that gsoc started just before exams & there was only a couple of weeks after exams until the first evaluation |
| 14:11.56 | mlankhorst | same story every year :s |
| 14:12.00 | WinterMute | someone linked me to a page offering advice for students in that situation |
| 14:12.05 | mlankhorst | That always happens for some students |
| 14:12.06 | thebolt | WinterMute: so? its his problem :P |
| 14:12.15 | thebolt | i'll be in that situation.. my semester ends june 31st |
| 14:12.58 | thebolt | either you accept it, or don't apply.. thats pretty much it imo |
| 14:14.45 | Raim | WinterMute: last paragraph of http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents |
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| 14:16.58 | WinterMute | Raim, cheers, I just found it in the rikers.org logs |
| 14:17.37 | webchick | Hey folks. :) |
| 14:17.46 | webchick | Ah, been pretty nuts over here but glad to see you all again! :D |
| 14:17.56 | ajuonline | :D |
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| 14:19.17 | WinterMute | Raim, was you that linked me to it on saturday as well :) |
| 14:19.47 | thebolt | webchick: time to kickstart the madness again ;-) |
| 14:19.55 | webchick | Heck yeah!!! |
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| 14:20.03 | ajuonline | yAy! |
| 14:20.03 | ajuonline | :D |
| 14:20.11 | lh | ^5s webchick, goes back to reviewing applications |
| 14:20.11 | webchick | cues up "It's the most.... wonderful tiiiiiiiime... of the yeeeearrrr..." |
| 14:20.17 | webchick | lh: Yay! |
| 14:20.33 | thebolt | hi lh |
| 14:21.01 | ajuonline | puts some fresh coffee ready for lh |
| 14:21.13 | WinterMute | gets the donuts |
| 14:21.31 | kblin | morning lh :) |
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| 14:21.53 | pinkerton | lh: you're up early |
| 14:22.13 | kblin | webchick: dunno about time of the year, but it's a really good day :D |
| 14:22.19 | borja | good morning, all |
| 14:22.27 | lh | pinkerton: a wee bit yes |
| 14:22.28 | webchick | Hold on. |
| 14:22.28 | lh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.30 | webchick | does math |
| 14:22.32 | lh | ajuonline: thanks ajay dear |
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| 14:22.40 | lh | thebolt: greetings |
| 14:22.40 | webchick | gets headache |
| 14:22.42 | summatusmentis | wow, this channel boomed with activity in the five minutes I was away |
| 14:22.43 | lh | kblin: greetings |
| 14:22.43 | webchick | lh: Dear lord! Are you up early or up late? :( |
| 14:22.51 | lh | webchick: up early. :) |
| 14:22.54 | webchick | Oh, whew. :) |
| 14:22.59 | pinkerton | well i saw tweets going all night, so it could be either ;) |
| 14:23.09 | kblin | webchick: early, she left some hours ago.. |
| 14:23.12 | lh | pinkerton: not all night. i slept. :) |
| 14:23.16 | pinkerton | that's good ;) |
| 14:23.23 | lh | pinkerton: agreed! :) |
| 14:23.27 | thebolt | sleeping is overrated |
| 14:23.30 | thebolt | or hm.. underrated |
| 14:23.32 | thebolt | i'm not sure |
| 14:23.38 | ajuonline | !sleep |
| 14:23.38 | socinfo | Error: "sleep" is not a valid command. |
| 14:23.42 | ajuonline | darn |
| 14:23.44 | WinterMute | ahahaha |
| 14:23.49 | ajuonline | !lh |
| 14:23.49 | socinfo | "lh" is (#1) Lighthearted Hippy, or (#2) Lady Hawthorn, or (#3) a zen experience to be hugged by!, or (#4) LOVE!, or (#5) lovingly happy, or (#6) free as in freedom!, or (#7) Loathes Harkonnen, or (#8) magic, or (#9) pillar of patience, or (#10) the most awesome woman to ever walk the earth |
| 14:23.55 | ajuonline | does a dance |
| 14:23.55 | kblin | thebolt: sleep is but a poor substitution for coffee |
| 14:23.57 | lh | oh dear god. |
| 14:24.04 | lh | kblin: i agree completely |
| 14:24.10 | webchick | <socinfo> Error: "sleep" is not a valid command. <-- never has anything truer ever been spoken. |
| 14:24.10 | thebolt | end of last semester i had ~4-5 hours per night for about a month |
| 14:24.22 | ajuonline | webchick: +1 |
| 14:24.23 | thebolt | seems to have survived |
| 14:24.23 | lh | webchick: i was thinking the exact same thing |
| 14:24.33 | lh | wanders over to sit on free couch, get reviews done |
| 14:24.43 | thebolt | seems i'm heading in the same direction this semester, but for totally different reasons |
| 14:24.46 | WinterMute | thebolt, *every* night? luxury! |
| 14:24.47 | kblin | gets back to his genes |
| 14:25.03 | thebolt | WinterMute: most :) |
| 14:25.28 | ajuonline | lh: are you getting free any sooner this week? i might need your 30 minutes. |
| 14:25.37 | WinterMute | has been known to be awake for 3 or 4 days come crunch time |
| 14:26.05 | lh | ajuonline: after wednesday maybe |
| 14:26.08 | thebolt | WinterMute: wlel, that works a few days |
| 14:26.18 | thebolt | WinterMute: but not a month, a month and a half |
| 14:26.27 | ajuonline | lh: works well. I shall drop you an email :) |
| 14:26.36 | thebolt | (especially not when you have to sit in class several hours every day) |
| 14:26.40 | lh | ajuonline: nifty |
| 14:26.41 | mlankhorst | lol |
| 14:26.52 | mlankhorst | socinfo still exists then? |
| 14:26.52 | socinfo | Error: "still" is not a valid command. |
| 14:26.53 | WinterMute | true, longest I ever went was 6 days |
| 14:27.07 | WinterMute | never doing that again, wasn't pretty |
| 14:27.14 | mlankhorst | why do we have 2 bots for the same thing, then |
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| 14:27.38 | thebolt | mlankhorst: isn't open source about having choice? ;-) |
| 14:27.53 | LeePope | !lh |
| 14:27.53 | socinfo | "lh" is (#1) Lighthearted Hippy, or (#2) Lady Hawthorn, or (#3) a zen experience to be hugged by!, or (#4) LOVE!, or (#5) lovingly happy, or (#6) free as in freedom!, or (#7) Loathes Harkonnen, or (#8) magic, or (#9) pillar of patience, or (#10) the most awesome woman to ever walk the earth |
| 14:27.54 | LeePope | ~lh |
| 14:27.55 | ibot | hmm... lh is amazing, and probably secretly super woman with super human powers |
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| 14:28.26 | mlankhorst | !learn lh as superwoman with superhuman powers |
| 14:28.26 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 14:28.47 | lh | mlankhorst: maarten. |
| 14:28.51 | lh | blushes |
| 14:28.53 | mlankhorst | :) |
| 14:28.54 | lh | i am not sure that is appropriate. |
| 14:29.03 | lh | in fact i am pretty sure that it is not. |
| 14:29.20 | mlankhorst | hey I just add what other peoples add :P |
| 14:29.33 | kblin | lh: you're just annoyed that the secret identity leaked ;) |
| 14:29.52 | jbailey | lh, G'm, my friend. Whyever are you awake? |
| 14:30.19 | lh | kblin: heh. my real secret identity shall never be found out. |
| 14:30.23 | thebolt | Mr Incredible didn't like being exposed either :) |
| 14:30.25 | lh | jbailey: organization application review |
| 14:30.30 | thebolt | (mr/mrs) |
| 14:30.34 | jbailey | At 07h30 am? |
| 14:30.47 | mlankhorst | she's always awake early :) |
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| 14:31.23 | lh | jbailey: eh, it happens. |
| 14:31.37 | lh | mlankhorst: i know, my sleep schedule switched so i could be around when the melange dev team was up. |
| 14:31.39 | jbailey | mlankhorst, I'm wondering if subliminally org apps mentioning "Java" will get priority based on her need of coffee ;) |
| 14:31.53 | kblin | jbailey: well, they want to announce on wednesday and there's the marathon meeting coming up |
| 14:31.54 | mlankhorst | lh: All european? |
| 14:32.09 | lh | mlankhorst: yes. |
| 14:32.15 | jbailey | kblin, True. Maybe I switched teams at the right time ;) |
| 14:34.34 | lh | jbailey: meh. i am sad you left us, but happy you got to go back home. |
| 14:34.44 | jbailey | lh, I'm sad I left you too. =) |
| 14:34.59 | lh | hugs jbailey |
| 14:35.01 | jbailey | lh, It was up to +6°C here yesterday, though. Almost California-like weather. =) |
| 14:35.09 | lh | jbailey: um. no. |
| 14:35.20 | lh | sends jbailey and his clan some virtual sweaters to go with the hugs |
| 14:35.35 | webchick | jbailey, It was +6 here too! I was driving around with the windows down. :D |
| 14:35.48 | jbailey | 6 weeks ago, we had -35°C with the windchill. T-shirts and miniskirts everywhere now. =) |
| 14:35.52 | durin42 | waves to jbailey |
| 14:35.56 | thebolt | hehe.. i so don't miss swedish winter |
| 14:35.57 | jbailey | webchick, You know you adn I are in the same city, right? =) |
| 14:36.03 | jbailey | durin42, Hi! =) |
| 14:36.06 | webchick | jbailey, Wait. Really? I totally did NOT know that! |
| 14:36.11 | jbailey | Ahahaha |
| 14:36.12 | thebolt | luckily i'll return to northern europe in mid summer :) |
| 14:36.16 | webchick | jbailey, Where are you at? |
| 14:36.19 | webchick | I'm in NDG |
| 14:36.29 | jbailey | webchick, McGill College and Saint-Catherine at the moment. =) |
| 14:36.30 | webchick | We should have a SoC meetup here sometime. ;) |
| 14:36.37 | webchick | nice! |
| 14:36.38 | jbailey | Living in the plateau. |
| 14:36.40 | lh | will totally come up for it |
| 14:36.45 | webchick | lh: Really?!? |
| 14:36.49 | webchick | You would love Montreal. :D |
| 14:37.40 | lh | webchick: i do love montreal |
| 14:37.41 | lh | :) |
| 14:37.49 | straydawg | jbailey: -35.. gasp |
| 14:38.07 | jbailey | straydawg, Aren't you in Norway or something like that? |
| 14:38.13 | straydawg | jbailey: .nl.. |
| 14:38.26 | straydawg | jbailey: it's cold/rainy enough to be unpleasant, but not cold enough to be hardcore/l33t |
| 14:38.35 | straydawg | jbailey: also sunny sometimes |
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| 14:38.52 | straydawg | jbailey: -35C boggles my mind |
| 14:39.06 | jbailey | straydawg, Ah. I was going to retort with at least we have daytime during the winter. =) |
| 14:39.18 | borja | straydawg: you eventually just become accustomed to that (I live in Chicago, and we have similar temperatures in the winter) |
| 14:39.27 | straydawg | i believe it.. |
| 14:39.40 | borja | By the time the temperature hits 1 or 2ºC, it feels balmy |
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| 15:11.21 | ajuonline | o.O |
| 15:11.49 | Huy | hi ajuonline, |
| 15:11.59 | Huy | how are you to day |
| 15:15.54 | ajuonline | Huy: great, thanks :) how are you?.. |
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| 15:30.29 | LeePope | Coty y la banda del huy huy huy |
| 15:31.17 | Huy | ajuonline: fine |
| 15:31.27 | Huy | LeePope: talking to me??? |
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| 15:34.43 | LeePope | æå® |
| 15:36.46 | kblin | LeePope: can you stick to English please? :) |
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| 15:38.33 | Huy | LeePope: Chinese ? |
| 15:39.16 | LeePope | ä½ æ¯å人åï¼ |
| 15:40.08 | Huy | square square and square |
| 15:40.32 | LeePope | haha |
| 15:40.53 | kblin | LeePope: I said please. Now I'm just telling you. Next time I'll kick. |
| 15:40.53 | jbailey | LeePope, No, but I can work Google Translate with the best of them. =) |
| 15:41.02 | LeePope | jinsbond007: Great to see someone from iiit-h here :) |
| 15:41.08 | jbailey | LeePope, So please stick to English. =) |
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| 15:41.23 | LeePope | ok kblin that was the last time. |
| 15:42.09 | Huy | LeePope: nihao |
| 15:42.15 | Huy | =) |
| 15:42.16 | kblin | LeePope: this channel is getting more busy every day. if you folks want to goof around, please create your own channel. :) |
| 15:42.18 | jinsbond007 | LeePope: hi |
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| 15:43.36 | LeePope | jinsbond007: #gsoc-india |
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| 16:10.17 | ajuonline | whats up with the silence |
| 16:10.29 | ajuonline | everyone catching up on a Monday? :P |
| 16:10.46 | maruel | ajuonline: silence is good for mental health |
| 16:10.46 | arunkcec | hey aju r u a indian |
| 16:11.08 | ajuonline | arunkcec: yes. |
| 16:11.18 | arunkcec | hey can we pm |
| 16:11.26 | arunkcec | ihave some doubts |
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| 16:11.41 | ajuonline | arunkcec: doubts about what? |
| 16:11.46 | mikv_ | so.. ~2 days before we will know list of accepted orgs |
| 16:11.59 | LeePope | ##gsoc-india |
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| 16:12.15 | Crofton|work | the bot should give us a countdown |
| 16:12.37 | arunkcec | abiout gsoc 2009 |
| 16:12.45 | LeePope | It is 2 days, 2 hours, 47 minutes and 19 seconds until Wednesday, March 18, 2009 at 7:00:00 PM (UTC time) |
| 16:12.50 | LeePope | :D |
| 16:13.34 | ajuonline | arunkcec: so ask here, this is a place to ask about gsoc 09 questions. |
| 16:14.03 | monsieurp | hi there |
| 16:14.05 | arunkcec | did u participat earlier in gsoc |
| 16:14.19 | ajuonline | arunkcec: yes 2008. |
| 16:15.05 | stacktic|sh | hi monsieurp ;) |
| 16:15.20 | arunkcec | whatdo they look for while selecting canditates |
| 16:15.36 | arunkcec | is it really difficult 2 get selected |
| 16:15.43 | ajuonline | arunkcec: depends on the project and the organisation you are applying for. |
| 16:15.43 | monsieurp | stacktic|sh: hey :) |
| 16:16.26 | ajuonline | arunkcec: difficult? thats a relative term. if you got the skills and are willing to learn. i guess you should be fine. |
| 16:16.47 | arunkcec | how do they test my skills |
| 16:16.47 | ajuonline | arunkcec: you should already start talking to the project you are willing to apply for. |
| 16:16.55 | arunkcec | oh |
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| 16:17.16 | ajuonline | arunkcec: different organisations have their own selection process, which I am afraid, noone is aware of. I think, since it all happens, private. |
| 16:17.25 | arunkcec | iam planning 2 apply for joomla |
| 16:17.39 | arunkcec | which org did u choose |
| 16:18.05 | ajuonline | arunkcec: best people to ask for would be the joomla folks, check out their gsoc 2009 information page on their site, they have a seperate mailing list for gsoc 2009. |
| 16:18.12 | ajuonline | arunkcec: you can ask questions on that mailing list |
| 16:18.16 | kekec | Is here any who want to apply for FreeBSD or NetBSD? |
| 16:18.22 | ajuonline | arunkcec: http://groups.google.com/group/joomla-summer-of-code-2009?hl=en |
| 16:18.28 | monsieurp | kekec: o/ |
| 16:18.46 | ajuonline | arunkcec: so far I think I am applying for Sahana |
| 16:19.19 | arunkcec | last year u applied for sahana |
| 16:19.45 | ajuonline | arunkcec: yes |
| 16:20.30 | arunkcec | what did u develop 4 them |
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| 16:21.34 | kblin | oh dear, it's starting again |
| 16:21.50 | ajuonline | kblin: what is ? |
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| 16:22.22 | kblin | people trying to save on bandwidth by not writing real words |
| 16:22.41 | ajuonline | lol :) |
| 16:22.59 | ajuonline | kblin: it has *just* started ;) |
| 16:23.05 | LeePope | laughing out loud not lol |
| 16:23.17 | ajuonline | kblin: welcome to gsoc 2009 :) the *fun* has just started. |
| 16:23.19 | ajuonline | all hail gsoc! |
| 16:24.49 | arunkcec | ajuonline will u be always on irc |
| 16:25.08 | kblin | ah, I just don't like it. it's less work for one person and more work for everybody reading.. |
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| 16:26.55 | ajuonline | arunkcec: no, i got class to attend and work to do as well :) |
| 16:27.09 | arunkcec | which univ r u in |
| 16:27.22 | lut4rp | arunkcec, man, stop writing SMS speak :) |
| 16:27.43 | lut4rp | we're not at world's end of bandwidth :) |
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| 16:27.50 | arunkcec | y lut4rp wat hurts u |
| 16:28.19 | arunkcec | dude my hands r paining tats y |
| 16:28.22 | kloeri | that's horrible - if you want to talk to somebody else you should make an effort to make it easy to understand what you're saying/writing, not try to make it harder |
| 16:28.32 | arunkcec | oh |
| 16:28.40 | lut4rp | yeah man. |
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| 16:28.51 | lut4rp | you'll not get much respect by typing in l33t :P |
| 16:28.57 | lh | arunkcec: you are welcome to do as you like, but you will get a better reaction if you listen to these gentlemen. they know what they're talking about. :) |
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| 16:29.00 | Lennie | hi |
| 16:29.00 | Urvieh | its not even l33t |
| 16:29.06 | Urvieh | its close to lol-speak |
| 16:29.09 | LeePope | ¿dnssÉÊ 'sÊnÆ ÊÇÉ¥ |
| 16:29.21 | borja | lol |
| 16:29.23 | Lennie | not much Lee, working on stuff ^_ ^ |
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| 16:30.34 | Kraln | lh: lots of applications this year? |
| 16:30.41 | lut4rp | Urvieh, OH HAIII, U CAN SPEEKZ LOL??? |
| 16:30.50 | lut4rp | is rotfl |
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| 16:31.16 | arunkcec | which university are u studying mr ajuonline |
| 16:31.17 | lut4rp | seriously, we should have LOLcode as a GSOC organization. |
| 16:31.18 | LeePope | is puzzled by lut4rp |
| 16:31.25 | lh | Kraln: yes. |
| 16:31.32 | lh | Lennie: hi |
| 16:31.34 | borja | is taking the first roflcopter out of here |
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| 16:31.50 | lut4rp | looks quizzically at Lennie |
| 16:31.51 | arunkcec | which university in india |
| 16:31.53 | lut4rp | oops. |
| 16:31.57 | lut4rp | looks quizzically at LeePope |
| 16:31.59 | Kraln | lh: do they ever get any easier to sort through? |
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| 16:32.28 | Lennie | stares back at lut4rp |
| 16:32.43 | lh | Kraln: no. harder in fact. |
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| 16:33.23 | lut4rp | doesn't have the courage to stare back at Lennie ... he sees an OP symbol. |
| 16:33.27 | lut4rp | :P |
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| 16:33.53 | Lennie | steps down from his 'throne' |
| 16:33.55 | Lennie | bring it :D |
| 16:33.59 | lut4rp | haha |
| 16:34.20 | kloeri | quick! everybody stare at Lennie! |
| 16:34.49 | ajuonline | Lennie: hi Lennard, good day! ;) |
| 16:34.54 | Lennie | hi ajuonline |
| 16:34.59 | scorche | sees that he needs to get this "butter chicken" stuff the next time he goes to Trader Joes |
| 16:35.15 | isforinsects | lh: you were looking for me? |
| 16:35.25 | ajuonline | schumaml: dude, I just ordered a dish, for dinner, which is "butter chicken" |
| 16:35.30 | ajuonline | schumaml: sorry. |
| 16:35.33 | ajuonline | scorche|sh: ^ |
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| 16:35.42 | scorche | ah |
| 16:36.50 | lh | isforinsects: yeah was actually hoping you could tell me where i could find nyergler |
| 16:37.10 | lh | aha! |
| 16:37.13 | lh | spots in #cc |
| 16:37.16 | Kraln | lh: do you have a bigger budget this year? |
| 16:37.26 | lh | Kraln: smaller |
| 16:37.32 | lut4rp | :( |
| 16:37.34 | Kraln | :-( |
| 16:37.38 | ajuonline | Kraln: 1000 spots. its in the faq, i guess? |
| 16:37.53 | ajuonline | slots* |
| 16:38.00 | Kraln | student slots or org slots? =p |
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| 16:38.34 | ajuonline | Kraln: student slots. |
| 16:38.43 | Kraln | it was more than that last year eh :/ |
| 16:38.48 | ajuonline | *of course* |
| 16:38.55 | Kraln | reads faq |
| 16:39.03 | WinterMute | how many org spots? |
| 16:39.04 | ajuonline | Kraln: 1125, yes. |
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| 16:39.13 | ajuonline | WinterMute: you wont know that until 18th. |
| 16:39.18 | stjepan | scorche: hey you wanna chat about the SoDA event at ASU / promoting GSoC? |
| 16:39.23 | Kraln | still, more than any other year other than 2008 |
| 16:39.33 | WinterMute | oh, that part is more flexible? |
| 16:40.04 | ajuonline | WinterMute: my opinions are just mine. not that of google or people running the program from the friendly ospo |
| 16:40.07 | ajuonline | :D |
| 16:40.13 | WinterMute | :) |
| 16:40.14 | scorche | stjepan: hrm...how about in 2 hours ish?...i am getting ready to head off to school... |
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| 16:56.23 | Urvieh | lut4rp, iz big lolz speekarz |
| 16:56.37 | Urvieh | ^-^ |
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| 16:56.43 | lut4rp | ^^ |
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| 16:57.08 | ajuonline | kicks lut4rp |
| 16:57.14 | ajuonline | :) |
| 16:57.33 | ajuonline | btw, lut4rp drupal sux! :P lol |
| 16:57.46 | lut4rp | ajuonline, you might not want to say that again here. |
| 16:57.57 | lut4rp | we have good presence around the interweb :) |
| 16:58.03 | ajuonline | Joomla! ftw! :D |
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| 17:00.57 | Urvieh | but im anything but competent with webservices |
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| 17:02.17 | borja | hey spectie |
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| 17:02.24 | spectie | hey :) |
| 17:02.37 | PulpFictionPunja | spectie, welcome. |
| 17:02.44 | spectie | :) |
| 17:03.22 | borja | spectie: zer moduz? :-P |
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| 17:04.12 | spectie | borja, res... |
| 17:04.37 | spectie | (that's "what's up" right?) |
| 17:05.11 | borja | yeah... the common response to that is "ondo" or "oso ondo" |
| 17:05.37 | smtms | what's that strange language? |
| 17:06.00 | borja | smtms: basque |
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| 17:06.56 | spectie | borja, meaning ? |
| 17:07.19 | borja | spectie: ondo == good, oso ondo == very good |
| 17:07.32 | spectie | aha |
| 17:07.33 | Urvieh | so if you speak basque, you always feel good? |
| 17:07.46 | spectie | Urvieh, that's the general idea |
| 17:07.57 | Urvieh | so its kind of an upper |
| 17:08.01 | borja | goes off to have lunch |
| 17:08.06 | spectie | Urvieh, as far as languages go year |
| 17:08.08 | spectie | *yeah |
| 17:08.30 | spectie | fins aviat borja |
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| 17:26.37 | EgyCoder09 | hi all |
| 17:26.50 | koryk | konichiwa |
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| 18:10.19 | ao | anybody from eclipse? |
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| 18:24.36 | homunq | ao: try #eclipse-soc |
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| 18:25.17 | lynxlynxlynx | two days to go :) |
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| 19:00.35 | kblin | !timeline |
| 19:00.35 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 19:14.46 | webchick | completely OT: Is Google an openID provider? |
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| 19:15.22 | atagar | I thought they did, but a non-standard implementation in some way |
| 19:15.53 | hypa7ia | oh, i'm wrong! |
| 19:15.54 | hypa7ia | https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id |
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| 19:22.27 | neo7 | any one from IIIT allahabad |
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| 19:25.39 | l0nwlf | neo7: hi |
| 19:25.57 | l0nwlf | neo7: why are you searching people from IIIT Allahabad |
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| 19:26.12 | neo7 | l0nwlf: I am asking except you :D |
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| 19:26.36 | l0nwlf | neo7: ok sire |
| 19:26.53 | neo7 | l0nwlf: :) |
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| 19:27.48 | ajuonline | neo7: best to go out in the corridors and shout, who else is hanging around on #gsoc |
| 19:28.05 | spectie | haha ajuonline |
| 19:28.31 | ajuonline | :D |
| 19:28.35 | neo7 | ajuonline: You from SAHANA |
| 19:28.37 | neo7 | ?? |
| 19:28.56 | ajuonline | neo7: yes, I am a Sahana developer, if that is what you mean :) |
| 19:29.00 | ajuonline | i am from India, btw ;) |
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| 19:29.54 | neo7 | ajuonline: no i guessed that you were having a solution for this disaster management :D |
| 19:30.24 | neo7 | ajuonline: I am also from India BTW |
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| 19:34.05 | rszulgo | greetings all |
| 19:34.15 | anothy_x | howdy |
| 19:34.42 | rszulgo | I have a question .. Who selects projects for the GSoC ? Organizations or Google Team ? |
| 19:34.55 | Landon | orgs |
| 19:36.00 | rszulgo | ok. So i.e. an org X gets 10 slots, so they can realize 10 projects from thei ideas, right ? |
| 19:36.21 | rszulgo | *their |
| 19:36.25 | smtms | rszulgo, an org gets 10 slots, so they can have 10 students funded by Google |
| 19:36.33 | Landon | well, an org ranks the projects |
| 19:36.37 | Landon | and google assigns them slots |
| 19:36.47 | Landon | (from what I know :) ) |
| 19:36.51 | rszulgo | ok, all clear :) thx |
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| 19:37.00 | Landon | and then they assign the top X students to the X slots they received |
| 19:38.07 | rszulgo | ok, I'll get some info about it from the org |
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| 20:02.36 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 20:03.01 | neo7 | faq |
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| 20:07.14 | lynxlynxlynx | oj |
| 20:07.15 | balzac | are there any other google-affiliated channels on freenode? |
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| 20:07.40 | lynxlynxlynx | you could check the /list output |
| 20:07.46 | balzac | i will |
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| 20:09.22 | maruel | balzac: or check where the ops are hanging |
| 20:10.54 | balzac | thanks maruel |
| 20:11.42 | spectie | hey balzac |
| 20:12.03 | kblin | I'd like to point out that the ops have their hobbies, and not all of them are googlers |
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| 20:12.23 | danderson | kblin++ |
| 20:12.51 | balzac | right |
| 20:13.11 | ajuonline | and not all of us are ops or googlers either. |
| 20:13.22 | balzac | I'm still wondering if where to talk to google people because I want to complain about something in particular and I'm hoping someone influential will get to hear it |
| 20:13.39 | balzac | But I want to complain in the right place |
| 20:13.40 | ajuonline | balzac: specific to GSOC? |
| 20:13.47 | balzac | not specific gsoc |
| 20:13.48 | ajuonline | balzac: there is a support alias for that. |
| 20:13.59 | ajuonline | balzac: then you are at the wrong place asking. i guess. |
| 20:14.04 | balzac | ajuonline: I don't want some bureaucratic dead end |
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| 20:14.08 | kblin | uh, I doubt the people you're looking for are on IRC |
| 20:14.21 | ajuonline | balzac: i know for sure, this aintn the place for it. |
| 20:14.23 | balzac | ajuonline: i'm asking in the right place to about where is the right place to ask |
| 20:14.26 | ajuonline | this place is for fun! :) |
| 20:14.41 | balzac | ajuonline: I'm a fungi |
| 20:14.54 | borja | !ask |
| 20:14.54 | socinfo | "ask" is don't ask to ask, just ask! |
| 20:14.56 | kblin | try firstname.lastname@google.com |
| 20:15.11 | balzac | but I don't know anybody... |
| 20:15.20 | kblin | that's probably as good as emailing your windows bugs to gates@microsoft.com |
| 20:15.34 | kblin | or probably ballmer@microsoft.com these days |
| 20:18.33 | spectie | LOL |
| 20:19.48 | ajuonline | or maybe linux bugs as well |
| 20:20.59 | kblin | nah, open source makes it easier to pinpoint the people to complain to |
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| 20:28.30 | balzac | ok, there is no official google channel on freenode |
| 20:28.37 | balzac | as far as I can tell |
| 20:29.03 | Crofton|work | what is your problem? |
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| 20:29.42 | balzac | Crofton|work: I want to complain about the rank of one domain in particular which keeps popping up when I search for various web-development topics |
| 20:29.49 | lh | balzac: what's up? |
| 20:29.56 | balzac | I want to put a word with someone on the inside |
| 20:30.05 | lh | regarding? |
| 20:30.06 | balzac | there's this website called experts-exchange.com |
| 20:30.08 | Crofton|work | balzac, I think that is seriously off topic for this channel |
| 20:30.18 | balzac | I know, but there is no official google channel |
| 20:30.19 | Landon | balzac: hahaha , don't we all know |
| 20:30.19 | lh | Crofton|work: it is, but i can help him take his troubles to the right place |
| 20:30.34 | r0bby | !faq |
| 20:30.34 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
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| 20:30.45 | balzac | i really think experts-exchange.com is treated with way too much relevance by the search rankings |
| 20:30.51 | sid0 | lol expertsexchange |
| 20:31.14 | lynxlynxlynx | it's an automation, i doubt they put in individual rules for sites |
| 20:31.27 | balzac | because I never get an answer from them, because I'll never pay for their expertise, yet they're consistently sitting atop search results pages for all kinds of queries |
| 20:31.48 | lynxlynxlynx | because people ask stuff there, it's a forum |
| 20:31.50 | balzac | they need to do something about experts-exchange spamming the top results |
| 20:31.57 | balzac | they offer no information for free |
| 20:32.01 | lh | balzac: lynxlynxlynx is right |
| 20:32.03 | kblin | balzac: you know that the answers are down the page if you scroll past the score of ads.. |
| 20:32.06 | balzac | yeah, well it's pay to play |
| 20:32.14 | lh | balzac: how so? |
| 20:32.19 | lynxlynxlynx | ee does offer information for free |
| 20:32.25 | balzac | lemme see... |
| 20:32.33 | balzac | maybe I just never made it past their ads |
| 20:32.43 | lh | kblin: you have mail |
| 20:33.05 | lynxlynxlynx | hehe |
| 20:33.09 | balzac | http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Web_Languages/PHP/Q_20781687.html |
| 20:33.20 | kblin | lh: getting right on it |
| 20:33.20 | balzac | http://www.google.com/search?q=php+header+location+post |
| 20:33.23 | kblin | lh: thanks |
| 20:33.27 | mlankhorst | :o |
| 20:33.36 | balzac | that page from expertSexchange sits atop the results for the query |
| 20:33.38 | lynxlynxlynx | i see plenty of responses there |
| 20:33.40 | lh | kblin: great |
| 20:33.41 | balzac | it gives no answers, only the question |
| 20:33.46 | mlankhorst | yeah it sucks |
| 20:33.50 | mlankhorst | hates experts-exchange |
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| 20:33.55 | mlankhorst | always worthless piece of shit |
| 20:33.56 | balzac | well *screw* Experts-exchange. |
| 20:34.04 | balzac | they annoy me 20 times a week |
| 20:34.13 | balzac | screw them with a corn-cob |
| 20:34.19 | balzac | not me, i wouldn't do it |
| 20:34.23 | lynxlynxlynx | btw |
| 20:34.31 | balzac | but i'm sick to death of finding their ads at the top of search results pages |
| 20:34.41 | mlankhorst | I keep wondering how they get so high though |
| 20:34.42 | lynxlynxlynx | if you use the google wiki search thing, you can downrate results yourself |
| 20:34.46 | mlankhorst | for a worthless site :/ |
| 20:35.01 | jlongster | balzac: search with -site:experts-exchange.com then. |
| 20:35.09 | balzac | expertsexchange is the opposite of freenode |
| 20:35.22 | balzac | jlongster: I don't want to type that every time |
| 20:35.27 | lynxlynxlynx | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.27 | lh | balzac: um, language. and um, relax. |
| 20:35.29 | actown | I hate those sites that you need to pay to get the answer |
| 20:35.35 | actown | makes me rage |
| 20:35.35 | balzac | if I could configure my google account to always add that flag, then sure |
| 20:35.47 | jlongster | balzac: then create your own landing search page which automatically appends it. |
| 20:35.55 | balzac | but really, Google should do something about experts-exchange, because they want to exchange their dubious expertise for my money. |
| 20:36.00 | balzac | they're not going to get a penny. |
| 20:36.05 | lynxlynxlynx | it's free!? |
| 20:36.13 | mlankhorst | the thing I find more bizarre is that it scores so high |
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| 20:36.21 | balzac | mlankhorst: thank you |
| 20:36.24 | mlankhorst | I've never seen a real link to expert-exchange for 'here's the answer' |
| 20:36.28 | balzac | they get ranked higher than php.net |
| 20:36.37 | jelmer | lh: ping, you were looking for me earlier? |
| 20:36.46 | balzac | higher than various webdev sites which obviously have an order of magnitude more credibility |
| 20:36.55 | lh | jelmer: yes, pm please |
| 20:37.03 | lynxlynxlynx | it's big and old and judging from this issue, i guess they know how pagerank works very well |
| 20:37.07 | balzac | </rant> |
| 20:37.25 | balzac | there really isn't a good excuse for their prominence |
| 20:37.31 | smtms | balzac, you like free lunch? |
| 20:37.40 | lynxlynxlynx | there doesn't need to be an excuse |
| 20:37.44 | balzac | time for google to evolve their algorithms a bit |
| 20:37.51 | lynxlynxlynx | consider it a feat |
| 20:37.53 | Landon | mlankhorst: sadly they've stopped displaying answers at all :( |
| 20:38.04 | Landon | used to be ROT13... and then plaintext provided you scrolled down far enough |
| 20:38.05 | Landon | and now theres nothing |
| 20:38.06 | balzac | smtms: i eat free lunch all day, and I bring enough jelly beans for everyone else too |
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| 20:38.15 | sid0 | Landon: actually |
| 20:38.17 | balzac | that's why I'm here on freenode, not a member of expertSexchange |
| 20:38.19 | sid0 | with google as the referrer |
| 20:38.22 | sid0 | you can see the answer |
| 20:38.39 | Landon | really? the only time I visit the site is after ag oogle search |
| 20:38.40 | sid0 | or at least that's how it was last I checked |
| 20:38.49 | rohananil | balzac: google search detects emotions of the user , figures out what he wants to make him happy :) , that could be a new feature |
| 20:38.54 | sid0 | or maybe it exposes the answers only to Googlebot |
| 20:39.01 | Landon | I think maybe only the googlebot |
| 20:39.11 | smtms | balzac, now, that your off-topic rant is over, what about leaving this channel? |
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| 20:39.14 | Landon | perhaps the IP range |
| 20:39.15 | sid0 | so you can use the cached result as well |
| 20:39.26 | Landon | yeah, good point |
| 20:39.32 | balzac | If google had a webcam on my face every time I accidently click an experts-exchange link, it would register a very negative emotion |
| 20:39.34 | lynxlynxlynx | maybe you need to be logged in to display the replies |
| 20:39.49 | danderson | balzac: this is related how to SoC? |
| 20:39.58 | l0nwlf | balzac: I think you had ranted enough |
| 20:40.01 | balzac | danderson: it isn't |
| 20:40.04 | sid0 | yes, I should stop responding :/ |
| 20:40.05 | smtms | a suggested GSoC idea: fix pagerank |
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| 20:40.10 | danderson | aside from that, experts-exchange is quite spammy, but ranks well because it *does* have the answers, if you scroll past the "Give us money!" |
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| 20:40.32 | danderson | create another site that has answers as good, and it will surpass it. |
| 20:40.35 | danderson | simple as that :) |
| 20:41.55 | sid0 | Landon: PM? |
| 20:41.55 | davr | like stackoverflow.com ? |
| 20:41.55 | danderson | for example. |
| 20:41.55 | lh | mlankhorst: thanks. enough was enough. |
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| 20:41.56 | mlankhorst | :) |
| 20:41.56 | Landon | sid0: : gofer it |
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| 20:41.56 | danderson | But stack overflow is turning into the watercooler of disgruntled and/or idealistic software engineers |
| 20:41.56 | danderson | which is not very helpful either |
| 20:41.56 | danderson | when I read about it, I was hoping for interesting discussions |
| 20:42.09 | davr | still better than expertsexchange so far IMO. i don't care about discussions, i want answers to my questions :P |
| 20:42.11 | danderson | but everything turns out to be "How to I compile an ASP.NET project" or "what is your favoritest programming book" |
| 20:43.30 | Landon | danderson: zomg Sams Learn ASP.NET in 24 Hours! |
| 20:43.31 | Landon | :P |
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| 20:43.59 | danderson | actually, I found more useful answers for me on experts-exchange than on stack overflow |
| 20:44.14 | danderson | I hate the site's format, but it does have the goods, for the class of insane questions that I like to ask the internet |
| 20:44.21 | sid0 | agreed. ee is sometimes actually helpful |
| 20:44.40 | sid0 | haven't found an answer I needed on stackoverflow yet |
| 20:45.30 | rohananil | one thing which comes to my mind , what are your view on it , since we have strong believes in being free/freedom , shouldnt the economy/world change where the motivation/incentive for work is not for sustenance nor for money , but for something "higher" , since we are not free , till we enjoy freedom in all domains |
| 20:46.28 | Landon | what would that something higher be?? |
| 20:46.53 | Landon | on a basic level we need sustenance or some way to trade for it |
| 20:47.27 | lynxlynxlynx | xp |
| 20:47.42 | lynxlynxlynx | geeks love levels |
| 20:47.54 | Landon | heh |
| 20:47.57 | rohananil | thats what we have to figure out , but not "money" , some place where everyone does something/anything because he wants to . |
| 20:48.06 | jhil | keep figuring |
| 20:48.06 | Landon | you remind me of this story |
| 20:48.08 | Landon | gosh |
| 20:48.11 | Landon | by the howstuffworks guy |
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| 20:48.58 | Landon | http://www.marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm |
| 20:49.41 | sid0 | trading goods and services is a basic part of human nature |
| 20:49.54 | sid0 | money is just an abstraction over the barter system |
| 20:49.59 | sid0 | it isn't going anywhere :) |
| 20:50.05 | sid0 | nor should it |
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| 20:50.18 | sid0 | eh, this is fairly OT too, actually |
| 20:50.24 | rohananil | :) , i believe it should :) , let the aliens come (just kidding) |
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| 20:52.10 | davr | someone's been watching too much star trek :P |
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| 20:55.53 | lh | borja: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/03/spreading-summer-love-is-easy.html |
| 20:56.12 | borja | lh: woo woo! |
| 20:56.27 | lh | borja: thanks again taht's a great post |
| 20:56.32 | balzac | lart |
| 20:56.46 | borja | lh: no prob |
| 20:56.59 | lh | borja: are you on twitter or identica? |
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| 20:57.45 | borja | lh: no, although I'm starting to feel like I should get on the twitter bandwagon |
| 20:57.59 | arma | borja: congrats on being the new top story. i guess thandy had its three days of fame. :) |
| 20:58.20 | lh | borja: you should. welcome to having no life. |
| 20:58.45 | lh | and the dude who tweeted his break in experience. good. lord. sign of the impending apocalyspe. |
| 20:58.52 | lh | arma: tor still gets love. :) |
| 20:59.17 | arma | i still have "write blog post about the thandy blog post" on my todo list. damn these todo lists. |
| 20:59.42 | lh | arma: i recommend burning them. so much more efficient. |
| 21:00.18 | arma | whereas i just let them grow and weigh on me. still pretty much the same result as burning them, but you're right, way less efficient. |
| 21:00.28 | geoaxis | summer of george |
| 21:00.57 | lynxlynxlynx | summer of gorge |
| 21:01.40 | lh | arma: burning them also makes you warmer. a plan with fewer drawbacks. |
| 21:01.48 | lh | well except all those arson charges, but there you go. |
| 21:02.07 | lynxlynxlynx | i think it would be more warming if the todo list was eaten :) |
| 21:02.47 | geoaxis | arma: i am actually thinking of going into microblogging |
| 21:03.02 | geoaxis | don't have the time any more to do long posts |
| 21:03.10 | lh | lynxlynxlynx: probably, but also less tasty. |
| 21:03.17 | arma | geoaxis: sounds like you're ripe for lh's twitter advocacy |
| 21:03.29 | lynxlynxlynx | lh: depends on what you wrote them with |
| 21:03.42 | balzac | sorry for the rant earlier |
| 21:03.52 | balzac | I realize it was off-topic and i meant to end it earlier |
| 21:03.57 | geoaxis | arma: i never said twitter, just microblogging |
| 21:04.10 | lh | balzac: keep it mellow dude. |
| 21:04.20 | lh | identi.ca ftw! |
| 21:04.44 | borja | lh: You pushed me over the edge: https://twitter.com/borjasotomayor |
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| 21:29.15 | stjepan | [completely off topic] if anyone is bored and wants to provide feedback about draft lyrics and vocal track for a song about a bug report: http://groups.google.com/group/urbanstew/browse_thread/thread/ca0470e564e96cb6 (I know the singing is bad, you don't have to tell me that :-)) |
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| 21:40.27 | skiquel | http://planet-soc.com/ |
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| 21:40.58 | skiquel | is there any other FOSS games that are apart of SoC other than wesnoth/bzflag? |
| 21:41.06 | skiquel | apart (have been) |
| 21:41.18 | lynxlynxlynx | yes |
| 21:41.23 | lynxlynxlynx | thousand parsec |
| 21:41.48 | kblin | WorldForge :) |
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| 21:45.39 | lh | !timeline |
| 21:45.39 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 22:54.47 | spectie | hi niax |
| 22:54.49 | spectie | nixbox, |
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| 22:59.25 | nixbox | i have plans to participate in this years SoC |
| 22:59.47 | nixbox | preferably some Linux kernel stuff relevant to the new mac80211 stack |
| 22:59.56 | nixbox | i have found a bunch of projects |
| 23:00.02 | nixbox | very interesting ideas |
| 23:00.06 | mlankhorst | didn't know linuxx participated with summer of code? |
| 23:00.45 | nixbox | mlankhorst, i looked for project ideas which involve linux kernel development |
| 23:00.54 | mlankhorst | nice |
| 23:01.32 | nixbox | and because i have been involved with Wifi over the past few months, it would be great to do some mac80211 related work |
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