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| 00:13.46 | laz- | !next |
| 00:13.46 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organations are announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 00:18.05 | dberkholz | oh, cool. |
| 00:18.49 | scorche | socinfo: no, next is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 00:18.49 | socinfo | Error: "no," is not a valid command. |
| 00:18.55 | scorche | socinfo: forget next |
| 00:18.55 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 00:19.07 | scorche | !learn next as Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 00:19.07 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 00:20.04 | ojwb | but when are the organations announced? |
| 00:20.20 | lh | oh good lord. |
| 00:20.21 | lh | tomorrow |
| 00:20.24 | eakwarren | tomorrow at noon PDT |
| 00:20.28 | eakwarren | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.28 | lh | around 12 noon, 19:00 UTC |
| 00:20.31 | lh | timeline folks. |
| 00:20.34 | ojwb | gives up on attempting humour |
| 00:20.37 | lh | please. read the lovely timeline. |
| 00:20.40 | scorche | see that little tilde?...that means "about" ;) |
| 00:20.41 | lh | ojwb: oh good. |
| 00:20.41 | ojwb | sorry |
| 00:20.43 | lh | phew |
| 00:20.44 | laz- | !timeline |
| 00:20.44 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 00:20.55 | lh | ojwb: sorry, long day. |
| 00:20.59 | Landon | whoo |
| 00:21.02 | Landon | its beautiful outside |
| 00:21.03 | lh | goes back to being busy and not having a moment. |
| 00:21.08 | Landon | knows what tomorrows plans are |
| 00:21.13 | Landon | laptopping in the great outdoors! |
| 00:21.16 | lh | Landon: it is indeed here in the federal republic of northern california too |
| 00:21.17 | Catfish_Man | sends lh tea and spare time |
| 00:21.46 | lh | Catfish_Man: thank you dear. |
| 00:21.54 | lh | sends back cucumber sandwiches |
| 00:21.58 | eakwarren | sets alarms on blackberry, iPhone, wristwatch, and sundial |
| 00:22.01 | Catfish_Man | munches tentatively |
| 00:22.03 | lh | by not having a moment i meant not being cranky pants |
| 00:22.13 | Catfish_Man | I have plenty of time until I'm better :/ |
| 00:23.06 | ojwb | lh: no need to apologise... |
| 00:23.23 | lh | ojwb: eh, it was bad form. |
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| 00:23.57 | lh | put timeline on its own page this year to help with painfulness of keeping up on deadlines and what not |
| 00:24.02 | thebolt | morning |
| 00:24.05 | ajuonline | this was the awesome-est tbbt episode! :P |
| 00:24.20 | ojwb | lh: yeah, that is definitely helpful |
| 00:24.35 | lh | thebolt: greetings |
| 00:24.41 | lh | ajuonline: you are supposed to be sleeping dude. |
| 00:25.16 | ajuonline | lh: i couldnt resist the latest episode ;) just finished it! |
| 00:26.18 | Landon | the best bands in tennessee? |
| 00:26.25 | lh | ajuonline: sleep. |
| 00:26.46 | lh | said in my very best Dark City Strangers voice. |
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| 00:26.55 | eakwarren | Trial By Bubble Tape? :-) |
| 00:26.57 | ajuonline | :O |
| 00:27.09 | ajuonline | lh: record it and send me the audio clip. |
| 00:27.11 | Landon | eakwarren: I'll pop the jury! |
| 00:27.19 | Landon | and the judge! |
| 00:27.19 | ajuonline | else nothing scares me. i already got a ghost in my house :P |
| 00:27.21 | ajuonline | night! |
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| 00:27.56 | eakwarren | g'night ajuonline |
| 00:28.30 | ArthurLiu | 18 and a half hours to go 'till the selected orgs |
| 00:28.53 | Ummu | how competitive is it to get in? |
| 00:28.54 | scorche | about |
| 00:29.00 | eakwarren | lh: not pressing, but just curious, how many org apps have you reviewed? are your eyeballs about to fall out of their sockets? :-) |
| 00:29.02 | ArthurLiu | give or take a few hours because of the usual confusion and stampede :) |
| 00:29.21 | scorche | Ummu: it isnt competitive...everyone just applies |
| 00:30.11 | Ummu | scorche: for students? |
| 00:30.41 | sharpdevelop | lh: I am curous as well.... 400 applications... that is quite an effort.... |
| 00:31.41 | lh | eakwarren: all of them |
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| 00:31.51 | lh | sharpdevelop: yes it is. |
| 00:31.52 | lh | :) |
| 00:32.06 | eakwarren | wow! you are a machine! :-) |
| 00:32.12 | ArthurLiu | 174 got selected last year, an hint of this year's count ? |
| 00:32.16 | Ummu | lh: only one eye remaining I see =/ |
| 00:32.22 | sharpdevelop | lh: well done.... |
| 00:32.27 | lh | ArthurLiu: around 150 |
| 00:32.32 | lh | Ummu: i think i still have two |
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| 00:32.39 | lh | checks |
| 00:32.43 | lh | yep still two |
| 00:32.57 | ArthurLiu | that much less ? mm |
| 00:33.08 | sharpdevelop | eyes: two; colour: red at the moment |
| 00:33.15 | eakwarren | gives lh some Clear Eyes |
| 00:33.20 | lh | eakwarren: thanks. |
| 00:33.26 | eakwarren | np :-) |
| 00:33.29 | Ummu | 1h: is student selection up to the organizations? |
| 00:33.31 | lh | ArthurLiu: global economy tanking doesn't help. |
| 00:33.32 | Catfish_Man | sharpdevelop: forgot the selector ;) |
| 00:33.39 | lh | Ummu: pretty much |
| 00:34.15 | ArthurLiu | yeah, that's an annoying external factor.. the real world, nice to visit, wouldn't want to live there :) |
| 00:34.27 | revx | I avoid the real world. |
| 00:34.35 | Ummu | 1h: red eyes? did you have any nortell stock? |
| 00:34.41 | lh | revx: darn skippy. |
| 00:34.44 | lh | Ummu: nope. |
| 00:34.53 | Ummu | sigh |
| 00:34.54 | lh | Ummu: it's the letter l btw |
| 00:34.56 | lh | lh |
| 00:35.03 | revx | lh: I'm a bot... programmed for a specific purpose :) |
| 00:35.09 | Ummu | it's much easier to use l |
| 00:35.13 | Ummu | and you seem to be looking |
| 00:35.28 | lh | Ummu: :p |
| 00:35.40 | Ummu | I have one of those dislocated numpads :( |
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| 00:36.09 | eakwarren | better than a dislocated finger... |
| 00:36.17 | Ummu | I assume you have one? |
| 00:36.19 | revx | lh: oh I suppose I should ask you again about my situation. I'll be looking at the organizations accepted tomorrow and targeting C++ projects for my proposals but I'm wondering if I should bother considering my failing status last year |
| 00:36.47 | eakwarren | did. if you do it real good, typing makes you cry. :-( |
| 00:37.27 | revx | sorry about my passive voice ;P |
| 00:37.38 | Ummu | 1h: (took me a few minutes to run to the next room to get to the number but here) is it difficult for first year students to get in? |
| 00:37.46 | Ummu | eakwarren: ouch. how did you get it? |
| 00:38.22 | Catfish_Man | revx: the best voice to use is passive voice |
| 00:38.24 | eakwarren | flag football |
| 00:38.57 | revx | Catfish_Man: unless I'm sharing bad news or using IRC, I avoid passive voice ;) |
| 00:39.08 | ojwb | revx: I suspect that depends a lot on the circumstances of your failure |
| 00:39.27 | eakwarren | Ummu:evidentally wide receiver is not my gift in life |
| 00:39.37 | Ummu | haha |
| 00:39.40 | Ummu | I'm horrible with football |
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| 00:39.49 | Ummu | I'm a racquet sports guy :( |
| 00:40.04 | eakwarren | Ummu: and that's the American kind btw. :-) |
| 00:40.18 | eakwarren | of football. |
| 00:40.44 | Ummu | eakwarren: I know I know |
| 00:40.47 | ojwb | as far as I'm aware, no version of football involves raquets |
| 00:40.53 | eakwarren | LOL |
| 00:41.02 | eakwarren | I bet we can make one up! |
| 00:41.05 | ojwb | unless calvinball counts |
| 00:41.06 | Ummu | ojwb: that would be the canadian version of football |
| 00:41.11 | Ummu | ojwb: >.> |
| 00:41.12 | jasebo | what about gambing rackets? |
| 00:41.21 | eakwarren | there ya go! |
| 00:41.39 | jasebo | gambling that would be |
| 00:42.14 | eakwarren | I'm playing Calvinball right now. I just need 3 more posts and then round third base for the touchdown. |
| 00:42.36 | Landon | I propose a rule change |
| 00:42.37 | Catfish_Man | one could argue that irc itself *is* calvinball |
| 00:42.39 | Landon | so that I am the ultimate winner |
| 00:42.45 | Landon | I second myself |
| 00:42.46 | Ummu | jasebo: as an owner of a prestigious chinese crime family, obviously |
| 00:42.54 | Catfish_Man | Landon: I already won the game years ago |
| 00:43.03 | Landon | i just lost _the_ game |
| 00:43.04 | Landon | :) |
| 00:43.07 | Landon | what |
| 00:43.13 | Landon | why are they having release parties for a *dvd* |
| 00:43.15 | Landon | \ |
| 00:43.19 | eakwarren | Dang! Looks like I lost.... |
| 00:43.20 | Landon | I don't trust this Twilight thing |
| 00:44.16 | eakwarren | gets told it's time for dinner by his better half. |
| 00:44.17 | eakwarren | see ya everyone! :-) |
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| 00:46.56 | thebolt | hi mdc |
| 00:47.11 | Ummu | ravenlock: can I start sucking up to you now? |
| 00:47.26 | Ummu | whoops, so much for a good first impression :( |
| 00:47.44 | ravenlock | now? you've always been allowed to I suppose. |
| 00:47.47 | ravenlock | ;) |
| 00:47.54 | Ummu | you're perfect and wonderful |
| 00:48.31 | Ummu | I don't know what to follow up with |
| 00:48.33 | Ummu | flowers I suppose? |
| 00:49.03 | jasebo | I always thought that chocolate was the highest form of flattery |
| 00:49.14 | Landon | I thought it was irritation |
| 00:49.15 | Landon | :P |
| 00:49.15 | ravenlock | is there any reason *now* is better than say... yesterday? or the day before? |
| 00:49.37 | ojwb | starting now is easier than starting yesterday |
| 00:50.10 | Ummu | ravenlock: my laptop was just sent back from hp (shame on me?) and I couldn't get on irc :P |
| 00:50.11 | Ummu | and anyways |
| 00:50.35 | Ummu | if I start sending the flowers/chocolate/cocaine using overnight shipping they'll arrive in time for the gsoc list to be announced |
| 00:50.58 | Ummu | flowers made of chocolate and cocaine, I suppose? |
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| 01:37.49 | WinterMute | !timeline |
| 01:37.49 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 01:42.22 | lh | !timeline |
| 01:42.22 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 02:18.23 | margiolas | hello i need a small info when is the period for subcribing as student on summer of code |
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| 02:18.39 | ojwb | !timeline |
| 02:18.40 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 02:18.40 | lh | !timeline |
| 02:18.41 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 02:19.46 | z4chh | i can't sleep tonight |
| 02:19.48 | z4chh | ! |
| 02:19.59 | ojwb | !lullaby |
| 02:19.59 | socinfo | Error: "lullaby" is not a valid command. |
| 02:20.02 | ojwb | oh |
| 02:20.17 | z4chh | ojwb, going to have to sing it manually :\ |
| 02:20.21 | z4chh | listens |
| 02:20.27 | ojwb | you really don't want that... |
| 02:20.43 | z4chh | coder not a singer huh? |
| 02:20.59 | z4chh | anyone here from google? |
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| 02:22.24 | z4chh | well im going to try to go to bed...ill probably just end watching voyager reruns :\ |
| 02:22.30 | z4chh | night |
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| 02:30.29 | jdkav | hi guys |
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| 02:40.10 | Landon | *sets alarm for 9 am tomorrow* |
| 02:40.17 | Landon | get some good sun time in |
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| 02:42.39 | ecin | Landon: announcement time? |
| 02:43.58 | ojwb | only on some island in the pacific, I think |
| 02:45.45 | Landon | ecin: nah! I need to get outside |
| 02:45.57 | Landon | hopefully the wireless reaches far enough for me to sit in the sun |
| 02:45.59 | Landon | ;) |
| 02:46.03 | Landon | is hopelessly tethered |
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| 04:12.51 | Kraln | ooh ooh! who got in! :-p |
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| 04:13.59 | ojwb | nobody |
| 04:15.14 | jasebo | lol that would be a surprise |
| 04:15.31 | antarus | due to budget cuts, etc... |
| 04:15.39 | jasebo | GFC strikes again |
| 04:15.46 | ojwb | no, it's true - no organisations have been accepted |
| 04:16.01 | ojwb | because IT IS STILL NOT THE GIVEN DATE AND TIME |
| 04:16.05 | jasebo | lol |
| 04:16.22 | Kraln | :| |
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| 04:18.00 | jasebo | !timeline |
| 04:18.00 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 04:18.13 | jasebo | !GFC |
| 04:18.13 | socinfo | Error: "GFC" is not a valid command. |
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| 04:19.07 | zooko | There was an older timeline that I found with a google search that said that the announcement of orgs would be today. |
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| 04:19.19 | zooko | Maybe that same thing happened to Kraln. |
| 04:21.32 | ojwb | one for 2009? |
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| 04:22.59 | ojwb | it was the 17th in 2008 |
| 04:23.00 | zooko | Perhaps it was for an earlier year and I didn't notice. |
| 04:23.51 | zooko | Hm, the second hit from a google search for "google summer of code timeline" is http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=60325 |
| 04:24.02 | zooko | I think that's the one that I saw earlier. It doesn't have a datestamp visible on the first page. |
| 04:24.25 | ojwb | "March 26: Student application deadline; applications must be received by 5:00 PM Pacific time (00:00 UTC March 27, 2007)" |
| 04:24.40 | amit8-88 | !timeline |
| 04:24.40 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 04:25.08 | ojwb | (note "2007", and that's the 5th item) |
| 04:26.14 | zooko | I see that. |
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| 04:35.43 | JonCruz | is it the 18th yet??? is it? is it? is it? huh? huh? huh? |
| 04:37.38 | zooko | :-) |
| 04:37.50 | antarus | damn kids and your being ahead of us |
| 04:38.41 | JonCruz | wonders how many times he can repeat that before getting booted |
| 04:38.56 | lh | !wait |
| 04:38.57 | socinfo | Error: "wait" is not a valid command. |
| 04:39.00 | lh | should be |
| 04:39.12 | JonCruz | eeek! she's about |
| 04:39.19 | JonCruz | knows better than to mess with lh |
| 04:39.21 | JonCruz | :-) |
| 04:39.51 | zooko | :-) |
| 04:39.58 | lh | waves, goes back to working from free couch |
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| 04:40.16 | antarus | meh |
| 04:40.22 | antarus | we should charge for the couch |
| 04:40.24 | antarus | perhaps put ads on it |
| 04:40.36 | lh | antarus: leave the couch out of this man. please. the couch is sacred. |
| 04:41.01 | antarus | sorry, bad day at worok |
| 04:41.06 | antarus | I require more corona + lime |
| 04:41.52 | Landon | is the couches source open? |
| 04:42.02 | Landon | I'm not sure I like the particular construction of this arm rest |
| 04:42.21 | lh | serves antarus corona + lime in a frosted glass with lemon twist |
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| 04:42.29 | dberkholz | enjoys a mirror pong |
| 04:42.33 | dberkholz | pond too. heh |
| 04:42.34 | lh | Landon: feel free to rearrange the couch |
| 04:42.41 | antarus | was wondering what mirror pinged you |
| 04:42.50 | antarus | the couch in my office smells like dog |
| 04:42.52 | antarus | i shoudl get it cleaned |
| 04:42.57 | dberkholz | i wish i could fall asleep |
| 04:43.01 | Landon | the couch in my office was thrown away :( |
| 04:43.05 | Landon | we found all sorts of goodies in it though |
| 04:43.09 | dberkholz | the 9-hour time difference next week in france is gonna suuuck. |
| 04:43.10 | Landon | some odd anime |
| 04:43.14 | Landon | an inflatable bed |
| 04:43.14 | JonCruz | has a mission style armchair. Works well with a wacom even |
| 04:43.16 | Landon | clothes |
| 04:43.20 | Landon | \ |
| 04:45.04 | antarus | dberkholz: want to review these two ebuilds? :) |
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| 04:45.05 | dberkholz | antarus: sure, i'm just waiting for some broken packages to rebuild. |
| 04:45.05 | dberkholz | had to write a script to scan for sse4.1 instructions in binaries |
| 04:45.05 | antarus | dberkholz: http://dev.gentoo.org/~antarus/nsscache.tar.gz |
| 04:45.07 | dberkholz | just show me text/plain please |
| 04:45.15 | antarus | but there are patches! ;p |
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| 04:46.43 | antarus | I actually think the nsscache one is missing setuptools |
| 04:47.19 | antarus | or not, hrm |
| 04:47.20 | ojwb | seems to have fallen in to #gentoo somehow |
| 04:47.25 | antarus | ojwb: shh ;p |
| 04:47.50 | JonCruz | oh, I've been asked to come to a local college for a mentor-to-possible-students thing. Any points I should cover? |
| 04:48.00 | antarus | dberkholz: http://dev.gentoo.org/~antarus/nsscache-0.8.3.ebuild and http://dev.gentoo.org/~antarus/libnss-cache-0.1.ebuild ;) |
| 04:48.15 | jdkav | hi guys |
| 04:48.18 | ojwb | there are some slides from talks others have given around |
| 04:48.20 | jdkav | hello |
| 04:48.29 | dberkholz | antarus: query coming your way |
| 04:49.14 | jdkav | antarus: from this side also |
| 04:49.50 | jdkav | skbohra: hi shree |
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| 04:50.13 | jdkav | skbohra: dere???? |
| 04:51.06 | antarus | jdkav: hmmm? |
| 04:51.40 | jdkav | can u help me out in knowing which mentoring organization support python based apps |
| 04:51.56 | Landon | !orgbylang |
| 04:51.56 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is http://eflow.org/wiki/index.php?Mentors_by_language |
| 04:52.00 | Landon | *rough guide* |
| 04:52.16 | jdkav | checked out but it was hazzy |
| 04:52.41 | Landon | er, what's unclear about it? |
| 04:53.35 | jdkav | it doesnot give me an idea for the organizations need |
| 04:53.52 | ojwb | for that you need to view their lists of suggested projects |
| 04:53.55 | ojwb | which aren't out yet |
| 04:54.19 | jdkav | hmmm waiting for 12'o clock |
| 04:54.28 | ojwb | !next |
| 04:54.28 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 04:54.33 | luke-jr | jdkav: head east? |
| 04:54.34 | ojwb | *PDT* |
| 04:54.50 | luke-jr | :p |
| 04:54.57 | jdkav | luke-jr: didn't get u |
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| 04:55.05 | ojwb | the "ideas" links will give some idea, but are for last year |
| 04:55.32 | JonCruz | Aha!!! I was wondering about the FAQ not having a time listed |
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| 04:56.17 | jdkav | skbohr1: hi shree |
| 04:56.37 | skbohr1 | hi jdkav |
| 04:56.50 | skbohr1 | jdkav: nice to see u here |
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| 04:56.58 | jdkav | same here |
| 04:57.07 | skbohr1 | jdkav: which org are you applying for |
| 04:57.17 | jdkav | skbohr: going to college?? |
| 04:57.46 | skbohr1 | thinks he might be |
| 04:58.10 | jdkav | skbohr1: there are many options |
| 04:58.27 | jdkav | and this is creating confusion |
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| 04:58.30 | skbhra | !timeline |
| 04:58.31 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 04:58.53 | skbhra | wait is still on! its 18 here though in India ;) |
| 04:59.07 | scorche | which is why there is an approximate time given... |
| 05:00.54 | skbhra | is will be 19th here, sameway past midnight, will be awake :) |
| 05:01.14 | skbhra | thinks jdkav was better , just a thought |
| 05:01.17 | jaideep | skbhra: hmm it has to be |
| 05:01.19 | antarus | scorche: this is why you lie and say 'the 23rd' |
| 05:01.26 | antarus | scorche: then be like zomg we got it done early! |
| 05:01.30 | jaideep | skbhra: which organization u decided |
| 05:01.34 | antarus | then have a round of victory shots |
| 05:01.53 | skbhra | jaideep: let the list of org come |
| 05:02.09 | scorche | antarus: yay for being "early"! \o/ |
| 05:02.23 | jaideep | ya its true |
| 05:02.31 | jaideep | me too waiting |
| 05:02.40 | scorche | ...which is why you never quote deadlines as the day you think you will actually get it done |
| 05:03.05 | skbhra | sorche: business secrets of google :) |
| 05:03.24 | stjepan | scorche: hey :-) |
| 05:03.39 | scorche | stjepan: hey! |
| 05:03.52 | scorche | i didnt see you in here 2 hours after i mentioned... ;) |
| 05:04.12 | stjepan | scorche: yeah sorry - I started recording a song and completely lost track of time |
| 05:04.32 | antarus | hmm 10pm |
| 05:04.34 | antarus | nearly bedtime |
| 05:04.42 | stjepan | scorche: i'm sorry if you went out of your way to show up on the channel |
| 05:04.48 | scorche | not really |
| 05:05.13 | stjepan | you still interested in coming to that event on the 24th? |
| 05:05.28 | scorche | yup |
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| 05:06.01 | jaideep | guys which org is in network based app for system admins |
| 05:06.01 | stjepan | awesome! how much time would you like to talk about the stuff you want to talk about? |
| 05:06.08 | scorche | you have poor timing...i was just about to go to bed early (or try to anyway...i think i am getting sick..) |
| 05:06.41 | stjepan | lol :-) you go get rest - we can try another time |
| 05:07.06 | summatusmentis | hi all |
| 05:07.30 | jaideep | guys which org is in network based app for system admins |
| 05:08.04 | ojwb | jaideep: don't just repeat questions a minute later |
| 05:08.33 | ojwb | no orgs have been accepted yet, so we can't say for sure |
| 05:08.51 | jaideep | ojwb: ok |
| 05:08.55 | ojwb | look at last years list if you're impatient |
| 05:10.01 | arunreddy | Roughly 20 hrs to go for Announcement of the list. So catch ur breath till then :P |
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| 05:12.50 | hypa7ia | jaideep: if we get accepted, i think my projects with openswan qualify as network based apps for sysadmins? http://www.xelerance.com/GSoC2009/ |
| 05:12.56 | hypa7ia | (here's hoping!) |
| 05:13.44 | lh | waves to hypa7ia |
| 05:13.57 | lh | never met you, but pleasure to virtually met you here |
| 05:14.10 | lh | everyone chill out. the list will be posted when it's posted. |
| 05:14.28 | jaideep | hypa7ia: thanx a ton |
| 05:15.33 | lh | s/met/meet |
| 05:15.48 | lh | steps afk for the sake of her wrists |
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| 05:16.50 | summatusmentis | lh: but I NEED TO KNOW NOW!!!! |
| 05:16.56 | summatusmentis | spazzes out |
| 05:17.08 | hypa7ia | o hai, lh ! nice to "meet" you too :) |
| 05:17.21 | scorche | distributes calming tea |
| 05:17.25 | hypa7ia | gives summatusmentis a cookie |
| 05:18.02 | summatusmentis | hypa7ia: why thank you |
| 05:18.09 | hypa7ia | cookies always help |
| 05:18.12 | hypa7ia | also cupcakes |
| 05:19.05 | summatusmentis | well, unless they're cookies full of sugar, then they lead to more spazzing |
| 05:19.26 | hypa7ia | maybe it'll be like ADD meds |
| 05:19.33 | summatusmentis | that said, it's 1:30am, and I need sleep |
| 05:19.36 | hypa7ia | if you're already freaking out they calm you down? |
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| 05:19.40 | summatusmentis | haha |
| 05:19.43 | hypa7ia | yeah, i should too :/ |
| 05:19.47 | summatusmentis | 'night all |
| 05:19.58 | JonCruz | how about penguin cupcakes anyone? |
| 05:20.04 | summatusmentis | & |
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| 05:21.20 | hypa7ia | JonCruz: i prefer robot cupcakes |
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| 05:24.39 | JonCruz | hypa7ia: drat. I don't have robot forms, only penguin. http://codewideopen.blogspot.com/2009/02/scale-and-gnome-and-tux-and-cakes.html |
| 05:24.40 | JonCruz | :-) |
| 05:25.50 | hypa7ia | http://www.flickr.com/photos/hello_naomi/2239866151/ <-- not mine, but basically unsurpassed as far as cupcake cuteness goes |
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| 05:25.56 | anothy_x | i think next year, google should use fuzzy windows for the deadlines. "org submissions close some time between 09:00 and 17:00 GMT, either tuesday or wednesday. feel lucky?" |
| 05:26.34 | ecin | All deadlines should do that. |
| 05:26.36 | scorche | how about next year there are no dates and you just get left wondering... |
| 05:26.58 | JonCruz | hypa7ia: awwwwww.... very cute |
| 05:27.54 | stjepan | yeah, or don't tell anyone whether which orgs or students got accepted |
| 05:28.23 | luke-jr | kinda need to tell the students |
| 05:28.31 | joshp | are projects announced yet? |
| 05:28.37 | luke-jr | â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦. |
| 05:28.39 | scorche | sighs |
| 05:28.44 | scorche | !timeline |
| 05:28.44 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 05:28.51 | stjepan | luke-jr: but would be fun if they didn't :-) |
| 05:28.56 | JonCruz | hmmm... they could only tell te orgs privately, then have the students pester the orgs to find out |
| 05:29.01 | luke-jr | LOL |
| 05:29.08 | luke-jr | and the orgs say yes to all of them |
| 05:29.11 | luke-jr | they all do some work |
| 05:29.15 | luke-jr | and only a few get checks |
| 05:29.16 | luke-jr | XD |
| 05:29.37 | anothy_x | that's what google should do for the *last* year of GSoC. |
| 05:29.43 | joshp | its march 18, im ready |
| 05:29.43 | anothy_x | ('cause it would be) |
| 05:30.15 | scorche | thats nice...others arent |
| 05:30.31 | luke-jr | joshp: I believe there's a time posted. |
| 05:30.41 | scorche | an *approximate* time |
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| 05:31.04 | scorche | hail the all-important tilde |
| 05:31.08 | joshp | I am approximately unsatisfied by approximate times |
| 05:31.20 | luke-jr | rejected students are welcome to help out my project that missed the deadlines.. ;) |
| 05:31.36 | anothy_x | it should be "accepted organizations will be announced March 18th. in some timezone. but we aren't saying which calendar system". |
| 05:31.45 | scorche | joshp: thats a shame...you might have to just get used to it |
| 05:32.15 | anothy_x | okay, i'm done with that nonsense for the evening. sorry for the chatter. |
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| 05:43.25 | JonCruz | *sigh* someone tell me to get back to coding |
| 05:43.57 | luke-jr | GET BACK TO CODING |
| 05:43.59 | luke-jr | ⺠|
| 05:44.23 | jasebo | I was intending to procrastinate this afternoon, bot got caught up coding instead |
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| 05:44.50 | JonCruz | luke-jr: thanks |
| 05:45.32 | JonCruz | jasebo: quite tweet-worthy |
| 05:45.33 | JonCruz | :-) |
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| 06:19.08 | tmiw_ | oh man. I can't wait till tomorrow |
| 06:19.48 | ecin | Down to hours by now. |
| 06:20.05 | tmiw_ | yeah |
| 06:20.30 | tmiw_ | the list org apps page will probably update then |
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| 06:35.24 | ojwb | relax folks |
| 06:35.34 | ojwb | still 12 hours or so to go |
| 06:35.46 | kosss | hi |
| 06:36.01 | kosss | what about mentor's list? |
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| 06:36.17 | ojwb | what about it? |
| 06:37.03 | ojwb | if you're asking "have the orgs been announced yet", then the answer is "no, of course not, it's still 12 hours until the announced time" |
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| 07:15.15 | JonCruz | It's today!!!! |
| 07:15.21 | JonCruz | yay. only half of one to go |
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| 07:17.22 | kblin | more than half |
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| 07:18.00 | sanil | is organization list is up?? |
| 07:18.06 | kblin | !next |
| 07:18.06 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 07:18.43 | kblin | The time for GMT is 07:18:30 on 2009-03-18 |
| 07:18.53 | sanil | K, Thanx! |
| 07:18.55 | sanil | :) |
| 07:19.21 | kblin | also note that ~ in front of the time |
| 07:19.34 | sanil | yup, I got it!! |
| 07:19.52 | l0nwlf_ | why '~' ? |
| 07:20.05 | l0nwlf_ | is it tentative ? |
| 07:20.09 | kblin | yeah |
| 07:20.23 | l0nwlf_ | ok |
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| 07:23.57 | mib_k4qxuf | has mentoring organisation been declared |
| 07:24.19 | mib_k4qxuf | it was schedule to be declared today |
| 07:24.22 | LawnGnome | facepalms. |
| 07:24.35 | mib_k4qxuf | where can i find the list |
| 07:24.37 | LawnGnome | In about... twelve hours, give or take. |
| 07:24.58 | mib_k4qxuf | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.00 | mib_k4qxuf | ?? |
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| 07:25.13 | sanil | around that deadline |
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| 07:25.14 | LawnGnome | Roughly. It may not be exactly 12 hours. |
| 07:25.30 | mib_k4qxuf | ok |
| 07:27.29 | kblin | it's going to be like that all day |
| 07:27.49 | mib_k4qxuf | and where will this list be hosted |
| 07:27.49 | mib_k4qxuf | name of the site? |
| 07:27.49 | kblin | and get worse after 19:00 UTC if they're late |
| 07:28.13 | kblin | mib_k4qxuf: probably the same place where all the other info is at as well |
| 07:28.16 | anothy_x | doesn't chanserv have some feature for sending a message to someone when they join the chan? |
| 07:28.31 | LawnGnome | anothy_x: I'm sure it does. I'm equally sure that people would ignore it anyway. |
| 07:28.31 | mib_k4qxuf | ok thanx kblin |
| 07:28.42 | anothy_x | sadly, probably true. |
| 07:29.10 | kblin | but I shouldn't complain |
| 07:29.31 | kblin | it gets really bad right before the accepted students are notified |
| 07:30.26 | LawnGnome | kblin: Indeed. I remember two years ago, when I was actually taking part and hence paid attention to this channel more than two minutes per day. |
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| 07:31.02 | LawnGnome | I always wondered if I could write an irssi script that would implement /lart, but realised that I'd probably need hardware support at the other end, even for a simple keyboard shock. ;) |
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| 07:34.10 | kblin | LawnGnome: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20021103 |
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| 08:14.09 | musically_ut | does not see his question in the channel topic and asks |
| 08:14.22 | musically_ut | Is it just me is is ghop.appspot really slow? |
| 08:14.37 | musically_ut | s/is / |
| 08:14.47 | ojwb | that'll be a thousand people reloading it to see if the list is up |
| 08:14.56 | ojwb | because they can't read/don't believe the timeline |
| 08:15.03 | sid0 | oh hey musically_ut |
| 08:15.23 | musically_ut | Well, we can't see the FAQ/timeline till we see socghop can we? :p |
| 08:15.29 | musically_ut | sid0, this is nirbheek using uu's laptop |
| 08:15.40 | sid0 | :) |
| 08:15.48 | ojwb | there's a copy elsewhere from earlier, but otherwise yeah |
| 08:15.53 | ojwb | !next |
| 08:15.54 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 08:16.05 | musically_ut | aha |
| 08:16.12 | sid0 | musically_ut: works for me |
| 08:16.15 | musically_ut | sid0, the soc meeting is tonight right? |
| 08:16.26 | sid0 | musically_ut: moved to tomorrow night |
| 08:16.36 | musically_ut | sid0, good move |
| 08:16.44 | musically_ut | Was just going to suggest that |
| 08:16.51 | sid0 | great, so you'll be there then |
| 08:17.34 | musically_ut | Possibly |
| 08:17.39 | kblin | say, I know PCIe 1.x cards work in PCIe 2.0 slots, do PCIe 2.0 cards work in PCIe 1.0 slots? |
| 08:17.52 | musically_ut | I was going to suggest because of the announcement that'll happen today/tomorrow |
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| 08:27.22 | Kraln | kblin: there are voltage differences. |
| 08:27.33 | Kraln | short answer: maybe, probably not |
| 08:27.38 | spectie | mornin' all |
| 08:27.46 | kblin | damn |
| 08:28.22 | kblin | looks like my old card's failing, and I'm not going to get a new pc just because the graphics card is broken |
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| 08:43.52 | rishabh | any one around ? |
| 08:44.06 | rishabh | i want to do a HCI related project , tell me please |
| 08:44.20 | spectie | hi |
| 08:44.25 | skbohra1 | hi |
| 08:44.41 | lil_Toady | !timeline |
| 08:44.41 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 08:45.30 | spectie | rishabh, can you wait ~10 hours for the list of organisations to be published ? |
| 08:45.30 | spectie | rishabh, but in the meantime, you could look at the possible organisations from last year |
| 08:45.30 | rishabh | okay :) |
| 08:45.30 | ojwb | nobody else seems to be able to... |
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| 08:45.30 | glaksmono | hello.. |
| 08:45.30 | glaksmono | anyone from wordpress ? |
| 08:45.30 | glaksmono | i guess not lol.. this is way late haha.. |
| 08:45.30 | rishabh | is no. of students gonna go down this year ? |
| 08:45.40 | lynxlynxlynx | yes |
| 08:45.40 | glaksmono | rishabh: i think they put a cap this year |
| 08:45.45 | kodt | i read google;s cap is at 1000 |
| 08:45.49 | glaksmono | kk.. |
| 08:45.50 | ojwb | glaksmono: try their IRC channel |
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| 08:45.59 | kodt | what's the channel? |
| 08:46.06 | glaksmono | ojwb: yeah.. do you know what's the devel channel? |
| 08:46.10 | ojwb | #wordpress would be my first guess |
| 08:46.12 | glaksmono | ojwb: i forgot |
| 08:46.19 | ojwb | or google for wordpress irc channels |
| 08:46.22 | glaksmono | ojwb: no, the devel, i tried wordpress-devel |
| 08:46.34 | ojwb | does your client not allow searching? |
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| 08:47.10 | arun | rishabh, it's going from 1125 students in 2008 to approximately 1000 in 2009 (according to the faq) |
| 08:47.13 | ojwb | failing that, #wordpress will probably stand more chance of knowing their own dev channel than we do |
| 08:48.05 | arunreddy | arun: tough competition |
| 08:48.05 | arunreddy | :P\ |
| 08:48.36 | rishabh | wonders if its gonna be f##ing tough this time |
| 08:49.08 | arunreddy | thats the fact..!!! |
| 08:49.22 | kblin | there were > 8000 applications for 400 slots in 2005 |
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| 08:49.48 | arunreddy | omfg |
| 08:50.12 | arunreddy | on an avg if a guy submits 3 applications then |
| 08:50.14 | glaksmono | lol |
| 08:50.21 | arunreddy | 3k ppl for 400 slots.? |
| 08:50.47 | arun | kblin, what were the stats for 2008 out of curiosity? |
| 08:50.54 | lynxlynxlynx | 8/3 != 4 :) |
| 08:50.54 | arun | applications must have gone up. |
| 08:51.22 | arunreddy | rough estimate.. dude.. |
| 08:51.36 | lynxlynxlynx | very rough |
| 08:51.44 | arunreddy | 8000/3 ~ 3kppl (rounded) |
| 08:52.15 | arunreddy | arnd 7.5k ppl |
| 08:52.44 | kblin | arunreddy: I think most people in 2005 only sent one app |
| 08:52.51 | arunreddy | arun : sometime back heard at gsoc |
| 08:53.02 | arunreddy | oh |
| 08:53.14 | kblin | there was no webapp saying "you still have 19 applications left" |
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| 08:53.52 | kblin | sending more than one app never crossed my mind |
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| 08:54.13 | kblin | but then again I heard about gsoc about two days before the application period ended |
| 08:54.14 | Raim | I think applications in 2005 were of lower quality than today were a lot of advice is available |
| 08:54.42 | kblin | yeah, I heard a lot of the apps were like "Pick me, I'm cool" |
| 08:54.50 | arunreddy | lol |
| 08:54.54 | rishabh | kik |
| 08:54.56 | rishabh | lol |
| 08:54.57 | kblin | so it's probably hard to compare the plain numbers |
| 08:55.16 | arunreddy | certainly..!! and that being the first time.. |
| 08:55.24 | spectie | kblin, i'm sold |
| 08:55.27 | spectie | let's do this thing |
| 08:57.06 | kblin | spectie: hm? what thing? |
| 08:57.11 | ojwb | lh said there were 3000 or so students applying in 2008 (about 7000 odd applications) |
| 08:57.41 | spectie | kblin, "Pick me, I'm cool" |
| 08:57.46 | ojwb | dear me, i hope people don't see 20 as the expected number of applications |
| 08:57.55 | ojwb | that would be terrible |
| 08:58.10 | impl | Pick my project! We're cool! |
| 08:58.24 | ojwb | impl: hey, how did you get at my org application? |
| 08:58.31 | ojwb | that's word for word |
| 08:58.44 | impl | is a secret Google hacker. |
| 08:59.30 | rishabh | is wondering , is it easier to get accepted by the organization which gets lesser no. of application ? is it true |
| 08:59.46 | impl | rishabh: Not necessarily |
| 08:59.56 | ojwb | well, my exciting discovery for today is that GCC will happily link a C++ main function and a C main function into the same binary, and then both get run when you run it |
| 09:00.01 | ojwb | that took a while to debug |
| 09:00.06 | rishabh | okk |
| 09:00.11 | impl | ojwb: haha, that's awesome |
| 09:00.17 | spectie | ojwb, nice |
| 09:00.22 | rishabh | ROTFL |
| 09:00.38 | ojwb | (not my code - was debugging it for someone) |
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| 09:00.44 | kblin | ojwb: not too surprising, with all that name-munging C++ is doing |
| 09:01.00 | rishabh | who selects the students primarily ? the organization or google ? |
| 09:01.11 | ojwb | yeah, it's not totally suprising once you realise what is going on |
| 09:01.12 | impl | The organizations do. |
| 09:01.23 | tmiw_ | ojwb: I would think the mangling didn't happen for main() |
| 09:01.31 | tmiw_ | but maybe it did too. weird |
| 09:02.30 | spectie | organisations |
| 09:02.38 | rishabh | okk |
| 09:02.42 | rishabh | lol.. hehe |
| 09:02.48 | rishabh | !timeline |
| 09:02.48 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 09:02.55 | rishabh | !results |
| 09:02.55 | socinfo | Error: "results" is not a valid command. |
| 09:03.02 | rishabh | lol |
| 09:04.37 | arunreddy | !orgainisations |
| 09:04.38 | socinfo | Error: "orgainisations" is not a valid command. |
| 09:04.41 | arunreddy | lol |
| 09:05.34 | tmiw_ | ojwb: how the heck are you even compiling? |
| 09:05.36 | tmiw_ | harry:craziness mooneer$ gcc -o test test.c test.cc |
| 09:05.36 | tmiw_ | ld: duplicate symbol _main in /var/folders/r7/r7ARhJ96GcSeC-KI41DJ9E+++TI/-Tmp-//ccqv22HW.o and /var/folders/r7/r7ARhJ96GcSeC-KI41DJ9E+++TI/-Tmp-//ccS1dTZv.o |
| 09:06.07 | ojwb | tmiw_: there was a partial link of the C code (ld -r) |
| 09:06.17 | ojwb | dunno if that makes a difference |
| 09:06.55 | ojwb | no error on ubuntu intrepid or some rather old redhat the other guy was using |
| 09:07.22 | tmiw_ | gcc 4.0.1 on leopard |
| 09:08.02 | tmiw_ | but this is weird. if it's compiling in c++ mode, shouldn't it be mangling main? |
| 09:08.03 | rishabh | too much geeky stuff on gsoc :P |
| 09:08.06 | rishabh | !beer |
| 09:08.06 | socinfo | Error: "beer" is not a valid command. |
| 09:08.11 | ojwb | main may be special |
| 09:08.23 | Raim | tmiw_: did you mean g++ instead of gcc? |
| 09:08.27 | ojwb | I suspect it could be extern "C" or something implcitily |
| 09:08.32 | Raim | tmiw_: but I don't think this will make a difference :) |
| 09:08.48 | tmiw_ | Raim: gcc should be calling g++ internally based on the extension |
| 09:08.49 | ojwb | maybe compile each to an object and link |
| 09:09.01 | ojwb | multiple files on the command line is handled differently IIRC |
| 09:09.22 | Raim | tmiw_: nope |
| 09:09.28 | ojwb | though you seem to have separate objects there |
| 09:11.10 | tmiw_ | Raim: ojwb yeah, otherwise gcc would freak out on the .cc file because of the C++ |
| 09:11.18 | rishabh | yaar yeh sab first year mein nahi sikhate yahan iit delhi mein :( |
| 09:11.25 | ojwb | ooh, it's more mad still - there's only a prototype of main in the C code |
| 09:12.03 | rishabh | madarchod |
| 09:12.11 | Raim | tmiw_: it will compile but won't link |
| 09:12.26 | Raim | tmiw_: try with your file, gcc -o test test.cc |
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| 09:12.55 | tmiw_ | compiling either file works fine |
| 09:13.07 | tmiw_ | ojwb's issue is that there's a main in C and C++ and they're both running |
| 09:13.59 | Raim | twanj: if it works you have a strange version of gcc ;) |
| 09:14.08 | ojwb | tmiw_: actually, it seems I just had a prototype in the C, and it was running some other code there |
| 09:14.10 | ojwb | or something |
| 09:14.14 | ojwb | my brain is melting |
| 09:14.20 | Raim | eh, tmiw_ |
| 09:14.33 | tmiw_ | ah |
| 09:14.52 | tmiw_ | but it brought up another point--is main() exempted from name mangling in the C++ specs? |
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| 09:17.16 | ojwb | yes |
| 09:17.24 | ojwb | well, I don't have the specs |
| 09:17.43 | ojwb | but if you compile a file with main and rain functions, then nm on it shoudl main and _Z4rainiPPc |
| 09:18.02 | ojwb | shows I mean |
| 09:19.57 | tmiw_ | yeah |
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| 09:23.24 | tntcoda | Is there any more chance of being successfully accepted with a custom idea proposal in comparison to one of the provided mentor idea projects? |
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| 09:25.41 | merlijn | tntcoda: not really, but if you have a custom idea - discuss it with the prospective mentors to see what they think |
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| 09:26.40 | tntcoda | ok thanks will do |
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| 09:27.36 | disismt | x-( |
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| 09:28.12 | ojwb | your best chance it to produce a compelling proposal for something useful, whether that be an idea from the org's list or your own |
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| 09:28.58 | ojwb | quite often the ideas just serve as a starting point anyway, though that varies between orgs and between ideas |
| 09:29.45 | tntcoda | ojwb: thanks thats my plan but just thought I would check if the number of applications per idea was a factor worth considering |
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| 09:31.09 | lynxlynxlynx | it is |
| 09:31.56 | ojwb | the faq suggests that multiple students can be accepted working on duplicate projects, but I think it's unusual |
| 09:31.59 | lynxlynxlynx | if 10 people present the same idea, you'll have more competition than if you make up your own that nobody will copy (except by chance) |
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| 09:32.38 | ojwb | only if your application isn't the best! |
| 09:32.47 | tntcoda | hmm ok thanks, will bare that in mind. I doubt I will have any decent ideas anyway :p |
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| 09:39.52 | synccoder | hi |
| 09:40.27 | synccoder | I have some quries |
| 09:40.34 | synccoder | can any body help me |
| 09:41.47 | lynxlynxlynx | !ask |
| 09:41.47 | socinfo | "ask" is don't ask to ask, just ask! |
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| 09:47.27 | lil_Toady | can somebody help me? |
| 09:47.54 | _dr | with your sick kitty? |
| 09:48.10 | lil_Toady | no, building a space ship |
| 09:49.43 | schumaml | NASA, or any of the X-Prize competition members |
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| 09:50.00 | lil_Toady | aw, knew i shouldnt have said the problem, but wait till somebody says he can help |
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| 09:58.22 | synccoder | I am student from Bangladesh. What the documents have to show for proving studentship? |
| 09:59.00 | lynxlynxlynx | proof that you're a student |
| 09:59.14 | lynxlynxlynx | that's usually some signed paper |
| 09:59.25 | synccoder | ok |
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| 10:00.18 | synccoder | I wish to work with java projects. |
| 10:00.25 | lynxlynxlynx | !next |
| 10:00.26 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 10:00.56 | synccoder | Please can anybody suggest me which kind of projects will very challenging. |
| 10:01.19 | schumaml | the mentoring organizations are not known yet |
| 10:02.13 | beket | oh, today is the day |
| 10:02.37 | synccoder | How the mentors select students? |
| 10:02.37 | schumaml | when they are, then someone could create a "organizations by programming language" summary |
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| 10:03.29 | schumaml | by reading their applications, and talking to them on irc or mailing lists (or comparable media) |
| 10:03.52 | schumaml | synccoder: you have read the program faq? |
| 10:04.04 | synccoder | is ideas are come from both side? or only from mentors/ |
| 10:06.20 | arun | synccoder, you should take a look at the faq: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs. it answers most of your questions. |
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| 10:06.32 | arun | synccoder, also see: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents |
| 10:07.06 | synccoder | Thanks a lot |
| 10:08.01 | jyothish | How many student applications come in every year?? |
| 10:08.09 | lynxlynxlynx | too many |
| 10:08.48 | lil_Toady | would bet most applications are from useless people who weren't going to do a thing |
| 10:09.48 | _dr | not anyone can build spaceships :) |
| 10:09.59 | _dr | everyone that is |
| 10:10.01 | lil_Toady | lol |
| 10:10.35 | lil_Toady | neither can i, that's why i asked for help! |
| 10:11.07 | lil_Toady | spaceships is serious business |
| 10:11.32 | spectie | borja, |
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| 10:13.11 | synccoder | how many students are selected after application every year |
| 10:14.32 | kloeri | the number of students are capped at 1000 this year iirc |
| 10:14.37 | arun | synccoder, that's also in the faq. first section, question 5. |
| 10:15.03 | arun | and what kloeri said. |
| 10:18.54 | schumaml | ... and please note that mentors do like students who read the FAQ |
| 10:20.27 | kloeri | oh yes - the FAQ was written for a reason and not having to explain everything that's already well documented would be quite nice :) |
| 10:21.04 | kloeri | I don't think anybody expects students to know the FAQ by heart but at least being familiar with it is appreciated |
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| 10:40.38 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
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| 10:46.19 | rishabh | :) |
| 10:46.25 | rishabh | !next |
| 10:46.25 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 10:46.29 | rishabh | !beer |
| 10:46.30 | socinfo | Error: "beer" is not a valid command. |
| 10:46.38 | rishabh | lol ;) |
| 10:46.46 | rishabh | Who's from IIT D here |
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| 10:47.12 | rishabh | kya chutiyapa hai behenchod |
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| 10:55.37 | changed | is bored |
| 10:55.53 | changed | his mind |
| 10:56.23 | rishabh | hey |
| 10:56.27 | rishabh | changed |
| 10:56.36 | rishabh | let's grab some beer |
| 10:56.36 | changed | hirichabh |
| 10:56.37 | rishabh | :) |
| 10:57.04 | changed | !gimmesome |
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| 10:57.08 | rishabh | lol |
| 10:57.09 | rishabh | :P |
| 10:57.17 | changed | 8-) |
| 10:57.40 | rishabh | i'll go out take a walk |
| 10:57.45 | rishabh | its boring |
| 10:57.48 | rishabh | and getting on nerves |
| 10:57.51 | rishabh | :P |
| 10:57.54 | rishabh | see ya man |
| 10:57.55 | rishabh | bbye |
| 10:57.58 | changed | cu |
| 10:58.04 | rishabh | whereya from |
| 10:58.06 | rishabh | and what org |
| 10:58.12 | changed | have lunch now |
| 10:58.18 | rishabh | is going out for walk |
| 10:58.29 | changed | bye |
| 10:58.37 | rishabh | which country man ? |
| 10:58.43 | changed | germany |
| 10:58.48 | rishabh | ah ok |
| 10:59.07 | rishabh | i am from Kabul, in Afghanistan |
| 10:59.29 | rishabh | KOI HAI ? |
| 10:59.30 | rishabh | someone around ? |
| 10:59.39 | B|20CK | Possibly |
| 11:00.37 | rishabh | is fuckin bored |
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| 11:05.33 | lifeeth | danderson, dannyb if you guys are awake.. can you please kick rishabh .. |
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| 11:05.52 | *** kick/#gsoc [rishabh!n=dave@atlas.natulte.net] by danderson (danderson) |
| 11:06.00 | danderson | it is done. |
| 11:06.07 | lifeeth | thanks |
| 11:06.15 | lil_Toady | :o |
| 11:06.23 | danderson | aka "ask and the idiots shall receive" |
| 11:06.44 | beket | So we now know the passphrase to k/b someone :) |
| 11:07.45 | lifeeth | :) |
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| 11:09.19 | lifeeth | danderson, ^ |
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| 11:09.58 | danderson | I can play this all day, I just hope he won't. |
| 11:10.02 | lil_Toady | some people just love to be annoying |
| 11:10.05 | lifeeth | probably a ban on *!*=75c77b5a@* |
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| 11:10.48 | danderson | can someone try to connect through mibbit? |
| 11:11.04 | danderson | I'm actually wondering if that id is shared by all mibbit users, or if it's per-client |
| 11:11.27 | kloeri | it's his IP address |
| 11:11.41 | danderson | aha, awesome. |
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| 11:11.50 | danderson | hmm. |
| 11:11.53 | lifeeth | it works :) |
| 11:11.55 | kloeri | mibbit and most other web gateways do that |
| 11:11.56 | danderson | okay |
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| 11:12.08 | danderson | okay, enough with the mibbits, thanks :P |
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| 11:12.09 | beket | mibbit flood :) |
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| 11:12.28 | antarus | ahhh freenode |
| 11:12.36 | lifeeth | goes to a class.. |
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| 11:14.52 | tiagoserra_ | good morning |
| 11:14.54 | sid0_ | 75c77b5a is his IP? nice |
| 11:15.01 | tiagoserra_ | is there anything forbidding more than one student application to the same mentoring organization? |
| 11:15.09 | danderson | no. |
| 11:15.11 | punchagan | no |
| 11:15.19 | tiagoserra_ | ok thanks :) |
| 11:15.30 | danderson | just make sure they're all high quality proposals |
| 11:15.42 | danderson | 10 crappy proposals to one org != 1 excellent proposal :P |
| 11:15.43 | tiagoserra_ | alright :1 |
| 11:15.47 | kloeri | sid0_: it's a meassure most irc gateways uses to avoid the entire service being banned because of one annoying user |
| 11:16.02 | kloeri | sid0_: something that freenode appreciates very much :) |
| 11:16.03 | danderson | and very smart it is too. I'd never noticed |
| 11:16.17 | danderson | mostly because the only "gateway" I'd interacted with previously was tor |
| 11:16.25 | danderson | which by definition doesn't really show you the ip :P |
| 11:16.28 | impl | And you can ban them from every Web IRC client at once, too |
| 11:16.35 | impl | quite nice. |
| 11:16.37 | kloeri | yeah, tor is different of course |
| 11:16.41 | sid0_ | makes perfect sense |
| 11:16.51 | kloeri | yeah, that's the idea |
| 11:17.00 | sid0_ | :) |
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| 11:44.19 | Peet | "Perhaps an unsigned long? TODO? It's definitely a 64-bit number in MSVCRT however, and for now `long long' will do." |
| 11:44.44 | Peet | the words "for now" in the mingw standard C includes scare me. a lot. |
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| 11:48.06 | ajay | hi to all... |
| 11:49.41 | danderson | Peet: meh |
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| 11:49.50 | danderson | all code functions only given certain assumptions |
| 11:50.00 | danderson | some are shakier than others, but code is not carved in stone :) |
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| 12:03.49 | glaksmono | GOOD MORNING HAHAHAHA |
| 12:03.54 | kitallis | lol? |
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| 12:07.51 | borja | morning all |
| 12:08.01 | borja | hey spectie |
| 12:08.07 | spectie | hey borja |
| 12:08.09 | borja | spectie: you poked earlier? |
| 12:08.11 | spectie | yep |
| 12:08.21 | spectie | i was going to invite you into a basque-fest in #apertium |
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| 12:08.24 | spectie | but you weren't around :) |
| 12:08.42 | borja | spectie: yeah, it was sleepie time in my timezone :-) |
| 12:09.05 | spectie | ah |
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| 12:11.03 | amitav | what is the approximate ratio of selected gsoc applicants and successful gsoc applicants? |
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| 12:12.35 | borja | amitav: there is no easy answer to that; although last year ~1100 applications were accepted (out of ~7000), it depends on what organization you apply to |
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| 12:13.34 | borja | amitav: some get a lot of applications, so there's a lot of competition, but others are more specialized and attract less (but more specialized) applicants |
| 12:13.39 | amitav | i wasn't asking about the number of applicants and those selected. i was asking how many of those 1100 were successful at the end f gsoc |
| 12:13.52 | lynxlynxlynx | ~82% |
| 12:13.53 | ibot | 0.82 |
| 12:13.59 | borja | amitav: the success rate has been ~80% most years |
| 12:14.21 | amitav | thank you |
| 12:14.36 | russellb | oh happy day |
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| 12:19.57 | amitav | i was expecting it to be morebecause of the presence of a mentor from the open source project |
| 12:20.39 | russellb | mentors can only do so much |
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| 12:20.48 | russellb | sometimes the student just disappears, heh |
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| 12:22.35 | beket | Rarely, mentors disappear also :D |
| 12:22.50 | amitav | yeah that can be a possible cause. I forgot to consider that in my enthusiasm about gsoc but I should have kept in mind that situations arent the same for all. |
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| 12:27.34 | FallenDevil | Are there failed students? |
| 12:27.45 | FallenDevil | i mean in this chat |
| 12:28.11 | skbohra | failed? |
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| 12:28.33 | beket | that failed wrt to previous SoCs |
| 12:28.45 | FallenDevil | yep |
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| 12:30.06 | FallenDevil | lh, Leslie, are failed students (who failed evaluations in previous SoCs) eligible to participate in this year? |
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| 12:31.35 | spectie | yes FallenDevil |
| 12:31.43 | spectie | oh, you mean who participated |
| 12:31.46 | FallenDevil | spectie, what do you mean? |
| 12:31.54 | spectie | and failed a mid evaluation |
| 12:31.56 | spectie | or something like that ? |
| 12:31.58 | spectie | !faq |
| 12:31.58 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 12:32.02 | FallenDevil | spectie, aha |
| 12:32.22 | FallenDevil | e.g. the student was accepted, he failed his midterm or final evaluation |
| 12:32.22 | skbohra | one who applied but eventually didnt get selected right? |
| 12:32.28 | FallenDevil | Is he eligible? |
| 12:32.31 | skbohra | oohk |
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| 12:32.52 | spectie | FallenDevil, i don't see anything saying that they can't in the FAQ |
| 12:32.59 | Crofton|work | I would guess it is up to the mentoring org |
| 12:33.06 | spectie | although perhaps mentoring organisations might be dubious |
| 12:33.19 | skbohra | who will let them know |
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| 12:33.36 | beket | nobody, unless you do or they do their homework |
| 12:33.41 | FallenDevil | I guess we should wait for lh's answer :-) |
| 12:33.55 | spectie | beket, but if you don't say it up front and they find out |
| 12:33.56 | Crofton|work | I would also suspect the mentoring org would expect a really good explanantion of what went wrong |
| 12:33.58 | spectie | they might take it badly |
| 12:34.01 | spectie | yep Crofton|work |
| 12:34.07 | spectie | transparency is order of the day |
| 12:34.18 | Crofton|work | never say never :) |
| 12:34.18 | skbohra | why you asking this question ;) |
| 12:34.28 | beket | spectie, true. I would just bring it up in my application. Nothing to be ashamed of. |
| 12:34.34 | spectie | indeed |
| 12:34.50 | FallenDevil | skbohra, hmm.. somebody asked about success rate and |
| 12:35.08 | FallenDevil | i am curious about failed stuents. Are they eligible |
| 12:35.21 | skbohra | ohhk got your point |
| 12:35.22 | FallenDevil | actually i would like to ask feq questions about GSoC |
| 12:35.25 | FallenDevil | especially |
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| 12:35.37 | FallenDevil | from failed student, not from successfull one |
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| 12:35.53 | FallenDevil | their opinion might be very-very useful |
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| 12:41.26 | adimania | i know java, c++ and python but i have never actually developed any sofware. I have developed basic applications like text editors and restaurant billing apps. using jdbc etc.Do I have a chance?? |
| 12:41.57 | FallenDevil | adimania, yep |
| 12:44.11 | adimania | can you name some organisations that provides with some easy projects? |
| 12:44.32 | kblin | no, because easy is hard to define |
| 12:45.01 | adimania | yep, thanks anyway |
| 12:45.01 | thebolt | hi all |
| 12:45.04 | FallenDevil | kblin, ++ |
| 12:46.03 | homunq | disagree |
| 12:46.03 | FallenDevil | homunq, arguments, please |
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| 12:46.11 | homunq | of course you can't have a universal agreement on exact easiness ranking |
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| 12:46.50 | kblin | homunq: dunno, I'm a low level C hacker. most people would probably call that hard, I call it easy |
| 12:47.04 | homunq | but at the extremes, most people would agree |
| 12:47.18 | adimania | but still, in general, a few must be known as easy as compared to others |
| 12:47.34 | homunq | adimania: ++ |
| 12:47.41 | _dr | most orgs will clasify their tasks adimania |
| 12:47.45 | skbohra | why you need something easy ;) |
| 12:47.48 | thebolt | kblin: yea.. its hard to say what is easy and hard.. |
| 12:48.01 | skbohra | getting easy is hard |
| 12:48.19 | thebolt | kblin: i for one find low-level assembly-hacking relaxing while template MP in c++ can be a bitch ;) |
| 12:48.20 | kblin | homunq: I doubt there's really the "easy easy" kind of projects in GSoC |
| 12:48.28 | _dr | i guess if you cannot estimate difficulty of the task it's too difficult for you :-) |
| 12:48.32 | adimania | skbohra: yeah i got that |
| 12:48.34 | kblin | thebolt: ew, C++ |
| 12:48.44 | Peet | I'd normally be waving the flag around for the org that I intend to apply for but I think I'll be selfishly silent to keep my chances up :) |
| 12:48.54 | thebolt | kblin: hehe.. i know.. i kind-of don't like it that much lately.. |
| 12:49.08 | thebolt | kblin: mostly been coding either lower-level (c/assembly) or functional (mainly Scheme) lately :) |
| 12:49.19 | homunq | I'd say that "easy" and "hard" project ideas exist in ideas lists |
| 12:49.28 | kblin | thebolt: my girlfriend is currently learning C++ for college |
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| 12:49.39 | homunq | but that once students are accepted those lines will be significantly blurred |
| 12:49.59 | kblin | homunq: yeah, but I doubt that I'd classify the projects of.. say boost or PHP the same as they would |
| 12:50.21 | homunq | because the applications which win will not tend to be "just do this easy idea and nothing more" |
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| 12:50.30 | thebolt | kblin: well, c++ is the main language of the open source work i do (as the project is written in c++) |
| 12:51.34 | kblin | thebolt: if you want me to write C-like OO code, give me ObjC :) |
| 12:52.01 | kblin | smalltalk is even better |
| 12:52.09 | thebolt | kblin: well, c++ != c with classes ;) |
| 12:52.15 | thebolt | you have to treat them as two totally different beasts |
| 12:52.21 | thebolt | just happens to have some common syntax |
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| 12:52.52 | kblin | I know.. COM is C with classes |
| 12:53.28 | thebolt | well, COM can be implemented ina ny language ;) |
| 12:53.28 | kblin | just that there's no compiler support for this, which is where things start to get ugly really fast |
| 12:53.32 | thebolt | but yea |
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| 12:53.46 | kblin | thebolt: yeah, in principle |
| 12:53.59 | kblin | thebolt: but all implementations I've seen use C or C++ |
| 12:54.05 | thebolt | not only in principle but in practice.. |
| 12:54.17 | thebolt | VB allowed you to define and implement COM objects |
| 12:54.38 | kblin | yeah, by a nasty VB-to-C bridge |
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| 12:55.16 | kblin | I've written the network layer of a VBA Word plugin for university, I've played with that part |
| 12:55.40 | thebolt | :) |
| 12:55.54 | thebolt | VBA and VB are pretty different though |
| 12:56.04 | thebolt | at least VB hm.. 6 or what was the last version before .net. |
| 12:56.15 | kblin | shrugs |
| 12:56.23 | kblin | it's been years since I looked at this |
| 12:56.42 | homunq | breaks down and pimps. adimania: if your def of "easy" is "self-contained, all my code, in a higher-level language" than check out http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/ProjectIdeas#Stand-alone_activities |
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| 12:57.16 | jeraman | but in this case, i would have access to pd objects funcionalities in real time? |
| 12:57.16 | mlankhorst | forces kblin to code samba in C# |
| 12:57.37 | kblin | I do C and python, and I used to write some stuff in ocaml |
| 12:57.51 | kblin | mlankhorst: you and which army? |
| 12:58.02 | homunq | s/than/then/ |
| 12:58.33 | jeraman | i mean... i'd like to build something like a new interface to pd... a new c based one... |
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| 12:58.54 | mlankhorst | kblin: I'm my own army :P |
| 12:59.05 | kblin | lh: I hope you're not really awake yet |
| 12:59.06 | thebolt | mlankhorst: i kind of like C# |
| 12:59.07 | homunq | morning lh? |
| 12:59.23 | thebolt | mlankhorst: for GUI/database/"business"-stuff its kind-of convenient and decent imo |
| 12:59.25 | FallenDevil | lh, morning :-) |
| 12:59.34 | homunq | puts on the water to boil |
| 12:59.41 | mlankhorst | er |
| 12:59.48 | kblin | thebolt: business? |
| 12:59.48 | mlankhorst | pff you can do that in C and faster |
| 12:59.57 | mlankhorst | resource editor is all you need, pfft |
| 12:59.59 | homunq | (irl, as well as virtually) |
| 13:00.01 | kblin | mlankhorst: well, GUIs in C do suck |
| 13:00.16 | mlankhorst | kblin: It's easy once you have made a template for it |
| 13:00.31 | kblin | template, as in.. glade? |
| 13:00.57 | mlankhorst | Nah as in a .rc file |
| 13:01.18 | jeraman | would to write my program as a external (or yet using sockets) be enough is this case? |
| 13:01.20 | mlankhorst | People like vs.net because it writes all that code for you |
| 13:01.26 | mlankhorst | shrugs |
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| 13:02.27 | thebolt | mlankhorst: well still, managing database setups etc (esp when its ms sql server) is simpler from C# |
| 13:02.44 | thebolt | kblin: ie not system or play stuff that i enjoy doing but rather stuff people pay me to do :P |
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| 13:03.20 | kblin | thebolt: dunno, so far I was mostly paid to write C code |
| 13:03.26 | kblin | even if I don't count GSoC |
| 13:03.45 | mlankhorst | Don't be scared of pointers :P |
| 13:04.12 | mlankhorst | kblin: Yeah, but if I had the chance would still write some wine code in C++ |
| 13:04.30 | kblin | mlankhorst: yeah, as I said, all that COM crap is a pain |
| 13:04.33 | thebolt | kblin: well, part of the stuff i'm paid for can be said to be "data transformation" stuff.. taking N sources (databases, excel files, other sources) and output a combined data-set |
| 13:04.46 | mlankhorst | python for sure |
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| 13:05.31 | mlankhorst | kblin: Ironically I could even re-use microsoft's code and have the result licensed under LGPL v2 or later ;) |
| 13:06.47 | kblin | anyway, need to go get some foodstuffs |
| 13:06.53 | kblin | bbl |
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| 13:10.04 | kitallis | just happens to? wtf? |
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| 13:10.19 | kitallis | oops |
| 13:10.28 | kitallis | read old msg |
| 13:10.53 | homunq | who wants coffee? |
| 13:10.57 | kitallis | me me |
| 13:11.11 | kitallis | i just had one actually |
| 13:11.24 | homunq | sends some Chiapaneco coffee to kit |
| 13:11.35 | homunq | s/kit/kitallis/ |
| 13:11.49 | kitallis | gratefully accepts ot |
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| 13:12.09 | kitallis | is high |
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| 13:12.34 | kitallis | how much more hours left? |
| 13:13.00 | monsieurp | !next |
| 13:13.00 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 13:13.17 | monsieurp | kitallis: :) |
| 13:13.23 | kitallis | so i need to convert it now |
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| 13:13.29 | kitallis | beh |
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| 13:13.53 | kitallis | !prev |
| 13:13.54 | socinfo | Error: "prev" is not a valid command. |
| 13:13.56 | kitallis | lol |
| 13:14.02 | laz- | !last |
| 13:14.02 | socinfo | [14:13:56] <kitallis> lol |
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| 13:14.11 | kitallis | !last |
| 13:14.13 | socinfo | [14:14:02] <laz-> !last |
| 13:14.19 | monsieurp | funny game |
| 13:14.20 | monsieurp | :> |
| 13:14.24 | laz- | !first |
| 13:14.24 | socinfo | Error: "first" is not a valid command. |
| 13:14.32 | kitallis | !next++ |
| 13:14.32 | monsieurp | !help |
| 13:14.32 | socinfo | "help" is see !faq, !advice and !wiki |
| 13:14.39 | kitallis | !help |
| 13:14.40 | socinfo | "help" is see !faq, !advice and !wiki |
| 13:14.45 | kitallis | !faq |
| 13:14.45 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 13:14.51 | monsieurp | kitallis: !++next |
| 13:14.55 | homunq | !advice |
| 13:14.56 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
| 13:15.00 | kitallis | !++next |
| 13:15.00 | socinfo | Error: "++next" is not a valid command. |
| 13:15.02 | kitallis | lol |
| 13:15.10 | kitallis | its giving links |
| 13:15.23 | laz- | ! |
| 13:15.27 | kitallis | aha |
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| 13:15.48 | kitallis | !last-1 |
| 13:15.48 | socinfo | Error: "last-1" is not a valid command. |
| 13:15.51 | kitallis | danr |
| 13:15.52 | kitallis | darn |
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| 13:18.03 | homunq | had not seen anything but "unavailable" for mentor advice until now. http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors is good. |
| 13:18.20 | homunq | ... too bad I didn't see it sooner. |
| 13:18.39 | homunq | :-/ |
| 13:19.34 | kitallis | says 2 feb |
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| 13:24.38 | homunq | 2 feb it was written, but some bugs in google groups made it invisible to some set of users. |
| 13:25.04 | homunq | I definitely looked for it after that and got "unavailable" even though it was listed in the docs. |
| 13:25.46 | kitallis | homunq: that's pretty imrobable |
| 13:25.52 | kitallis | improbable* |
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| 13:26.17 | kitallis | anyway, bad luck :( |
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| 13:31.49 | LRN | How long until they publish the list of the mentoring organizaions? |
| 13:31.59 | thiago | !timeline |
| 13:32.00 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 13:32.02 | thiago | what does that say? |
| 13:32.08 | Ivanovic | !next |
| 13:32.08 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 13:32.20 | thiago | LRN: see above |
| 13:33.33 | lil_Toady | utc is gmt? |
| 13:33.41 | lil_Toady | 13:33 atm? |
| 13:33.53 | tlsa | yeah |
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| 13:34.41 | Ivanovic | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time |
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| 13:35.05 | LRN | 19:00 UTC is in...5 hours 30 minutes |
| 13:35.17 | russellb | sets an alarm |
| 13:35.17 | russellb | heh |
| 13:35.26 | LRN | Good idea. |
| 13:35.33 | LRN | sets an alarm too |
| 13:36.00 | eliel | russellb: good luck with your application |
| 13:36.12 | russellb | eliel: thanks :-) |
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| 13:37.41 | LRN | By the way, do i have to be enrolled by 20 April, or by 23 May? |
| 13:39.14 | LRN | Because Google doesn't really asks for a proof of enrollment until, like, 10 May, when it prepares to issue initial payments. |
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| 13:58.59 | HELPE9999 | I NEED SERIOUSLY HELP.THE SOFTWARE COMPONENTS AND FILES OF MY COMPUTER HAVE BEEN ILLEGALLY MODIFIED.I CAN'T SURF MY POLICE WEBSITES IN MY COUNTRY.I CAN'T CONTACT ANYONE VIA EMAIL.IT'S ALSO VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME USING CHAT LINES.I NEED SOMEBODY HACK MY COMPUTER TO CHANGE THOSE KIND OF CENSORSHIP FEATURES.I CAN'T FIX THEM AND I'M IN DANGER.THEY CONTINUE TO ENTER REMOTLY ON MY COM.CANU BLOCK THEM? |
| 13:59.33 | russellb | O.O |
| 13:59.36 | jhil | wha... |
| 13:59.38 | kitallis | lol |
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| 13:59.54 | HELPE9999 | I NEED SERIOUSLY HELP.THE SOFTWARE COMPONENTS AND FILES OF MY COMPUTER HAVE BEEN ILLEGALLY MODIFIED.I CAN'T SURF MY POLICE WEBSITES IN MY COUNTRY.I CAN'T CONTACT ANYONE VIA EMAIL.IT'S ALSO VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME USING CHAT LINES.I NEED SOMEBODY HACK MY COMPUTER TO CHANGE THOSE KIND OF CENSORSHIP FEATURES.I CAN'T FIX THEM AND I'M IN DANGER.THEY CONTINUE TO ENTER REMOTLY ON MY COM.CANU BLOCK THEM? |
| 13:59.58 | kitallis | omg lol |
| 14:00.00 | russellb | op? |
| 14:00.09 | kitallis | kick him |
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| 14:00.48 | russellb | yay kblin |
| 14:01.30 | Peet | awesome |
| 14:01.47 | lh | thanks kblin |
| 14:01.49 | russellb | was amused, though. |
| 14:01.59 | lh | kblin: awake now |
| 14:02.00 | kblin | I'd recommend you contact the police by a medium called telephone, if you're in danger |
| 14:02.01 | lh | FallenDevil: hi |
| 14:02.16 | kblin | lh: that sounds much more reasonable than one hour ago :) |
| 14:02.22 | ajuonline | ^5's lh |
| 14:02.27 | lh | LRN: april 20th as it says in the FAQ |
| 14:02.42 | lh | kblin: i was awake then, just not in the office |
| 14:02.47 | lh | ajuonline: hello dear |
| 14:02.49 | ScottMac | lh, when do you sleep? |
| 14:03.00 | ajuonline | !sleep |
| 14:03.00 | socinfo | Error: "sleep" is not a valid command. |
| 14:03.07 | ajuonline | ScottMac: ^ |
| 14:03.11 | lh | ScottMac: apparently not enough |
| 14:03.17 | Peet | better than those virus bots on quakenet |
| 14:03.23 | Ivanovic | !standby |
| 14:03.23 | socinfo | Error: "standby" is not a valid command. |
| 14:03.26 | Ivanovic | !rest |
| 14:03.26 | socinfo | Error: "rest" is not a valid command. |
| 14:03.27 | Ivanovic | "halt |
| 14:03.31 | Ivanovic | !halt |
| 14:03.31 | socinfo | Error: "halt" is not a valid command. |
| 14:03.40 | Ivanovic | nothing like this is known to SoC people... |
| 14:03.41 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 14:03.45 | ScottMac | I'm surviving on 6 hours a night |
| 14:03.47 | kblin | gives socinfo a cookie |
| 14:03.49 | ScottMac | but I need more |
| 14:04.03 | Ivanovic | ScottMac: you got too much free time! |
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| 14:04.16 | Ivanovic | 6h per 24h day in which you do nothing productive?!? |
| 14:04.18 | Ivanovic | impossible... |
| 14:04.20 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 14:04.21 | lh | ScottMac: that's what i'm doing these days. it's fine i guess but then i get impatient late in the day |
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| 14:05.58 | ajuonline | i just had tea and then icecream |
| 14:06.01 | ajuonline | i must be nuts :P |
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| 14:06.26 | kitallis | ScottMac: 6 hours is pretty good |
| 14:06.27 | Ivanovic | ajuonline: good idea, some icecream sounds perfect |
| 14:06.42 | ScottMac | i get like 9 on a weekend |
| 14:06.52 | ScottMac | that might be alcohol related though |
| 14:06.59 | kitallis | ScottMac: weekends are diffrent, brotha |
| 14:07.17 | kitallis | ScottMac: beer tends to actually wake me up for no reason |
| 14:07.30 | spearce | is shocked as well |
| 14:07.37 | ScottMac | was no one out for st patricks day last night? |
| 14:08.15 | Phrozn | <-- was :D |
| 14:08.18 | kitallis | just confessed that he drinks Beer on an Google SOC IRC channel, lame. |
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| 14:08.35 | lh | ScottMac: i will honor the irish by having drinks this weekend |
| 14:08.51 | lil_Toady | st patricks day is my bday heh |
| 14:09.03 | Phrozn | happy b-day |
| 14:09.11 | lil_Toady | thnx |
| 14:09.17 | ScottMac | everywhere was mobbed last night anyway |
| 14:09.24 | Ivanovic | no need for a special day to have some beers |
| 14:09.27 | ScottMac | I wish I'd went to Dublin with my friends |
| 14:09.37 | lh | kitallis: i think we can all accept that beer is occassionally had |
| 14:09.39 | Ivanovic | at least when you are from germany... |
| 14:09.44 | lh | points to sign over free couch - |
| 14:09.49 | lh | "free beer tomorrow" |
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| 14:10.20 | Ivanovic | today makes more sense |
| 14:10.44 | ScottMac | free Microsoft beer tomorrow |
| 14:10.46 | lh | Ivanovic: shhh. no reality instrusions. |
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| 14:11.00 | ScottMac | its like normal free beer but you sign a NDA |
| 14:11.05 | Ivanovic | lh: re*what*? |
| 14:11.08 | ScottMac | so you can't tell people about the beer afterwards |
| 14:11.41 | lh | Ivanovic: free beer today makes more sense |
| 14:11.43 | Ivanovic | lh is this some mod for an online game? |
| 14:11.51 | FallenDevil | lh, there was a question about eligibility. May i ask you it? |
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| 14:11.59 | lh | FallenDevil: yep go ahead |
| 14:12.12 | lh | Ivanovic: nah, i just avoid reality wherever possible. |
| 14:12.17 | lh | it's annoying. |
| 14:12.30 | lh | "britney spears sits on chair, film at 11" |
| 14:12.32 | lh | no thanks. |
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| 14:12.54 | kblin | Ivanovic: no, it's where the pizza delivery comes from |
| 14:13.09 | FallenDevil | lh, I qould like to cite from history "Leslie, are failed students (who failed evaluations in previous SoCs) eligible to participate in this year?" |
| 14:13.21 | FallenDevil | !faq |
| 14:13.21 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 14:13.21 | lh | technically no |
| 14:13.47 | lh | waves to jbailey, hands him a nice cup of tea |
| 14:13.57 | jbailey | Thanks, lh! |
| 14:14.35 | easwar | thought geeks prefer coffee? |
| 14:14.44 | Ivanovic | prefers tea |
| 14:14.49 | Ivanovic | and i *am* a geek... |
| 14:14.50 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 14:15.15 | easwar | lol, fast, Ivanovic ,I was going in with "Ivanovic is no geek" |
| 14:15.18 | spectie | hey lh |
| 14:15.20 | spectie | and everyone |
| 14:15.24 | easwar | lo spearce |
| 14:15.26 | easwar | oops |
| 14:15.30 | easwar | lo spectie |
| 14:15.33 | spectie | hi |
| 14:15.36 | PulpFictionPunja | hi |
| 14:15.45 | FallenDevil | lh, thanks.. What if i will be accepted, when Google will ask me to send my documents of enrollment? |
| 14:15.54 | Ivanovic | lh: i think tonight you will probably really deserve a good beer or maybe even a better whiskey |
| 14:16.05 | lh | FallenDevil: around april 25th |
| 14:16.12 | lh | spectie: morning |
| 14:16.21 | lh | Ivanovic: whiskey FTW! |
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| 14:16.34 | FallenDevil | thanks again |
| 14:16.34 | lh | points to other sign "free scotch today at 19:00" |
| 14:16.40 | Ivanovic | jay! |
| 14:16.42 | russellb | w00t |
| 14:16.45 | lh | FallenDevil: yw |
| 14:16.49 | kblin | yay |
| 14:16.49 | ScottMac | as long as its single malt |
| 14:16.59 | Ivanovic | will take some to either celebrate being in SoC or to forget that we tried to participate this year |
| 14:17.00 | lh | ScottMac: of course. |
| 14:17.10 | Ivanovic | and to celebrate tagging the brand new stable series of wesnoth |
| 14:17.12 | kblin | ScottMac: relax. lh knows about scotch.. |
| 14:17.15 | Ivanovic | </ad-mode> |
| 14:17.19 | kloeri | must be a great day with all the free stuff :) |
| 14:17.49 | lh | kloeri: you can create whatever virtual free stuff you want. just don't mess with the free couch. :) |
| 14:18.02 | kloeri | hehe |
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| 14:19.04 | kitallis | what's single malt? |
| 14:19.40 | rohananil | !help |
| 14:19.41 | socinfo | "help" is see !faq, !advice and !wiki |
| 14:20.06 | thebolt | bah, stop mentioning single malt.. haven't had a good scotch in months.. |
| 14:20.17 | kloeri | kitallis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_malt_whisky |
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| 14:20.44 | summatusmentis | the list is announced at 19:00 UTC? |
| 14:20.46 | lh | thebolt: it is possible this could be fixed. |
| 14:20.46 | kloeri | single malt is generally considered very good whisky |
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| 14:20.51 | lh | summatusmentis: yes |
| 14:21.12 | Phrozn | lh: is there going to be some kind of informal annoucement at 19:00 UTC? |
| 14:21.17 | summatusmentis | lh: k, cool :) presumably there will be tweets with links? |
| 14:21.26 | lh | summatusmentis: yes |
| 14:21.28 | lh | Phrozn: yes |
| 14:21.36 | summatusmentis | lh: you're my favorite <# |
| 14:21.36 | thebolt | lh: yea.. i know how to solve it, but atm i'm too money-consious to get some ;) |
| 14:21.38 | summatusmentis | <3 * |
| 14:21.45 | kloeri | I'll be at the weekly LUG meeting eating burgers and having a good time with lots of local geeks at that time :) |
| 14:21.46 | Phrozn | yay! also <3 |
| 14:22.48 | lh | summatusmentis: thank you. :) |
| 14:22.54 | lh | thebolt: fair enough. |
| 14:23.17 | lh | yes there will be tweeting and blogging and denting and all manner of ways to let the universe know that we are, in fact, live live for 2009 |
| 14:23.54 | rohananil | hmm something off-topic , is it ok to package another gplv2 licensed software with one gplv2 software(rather than saying it as dependency and installing differently) |
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| 14:24.29 | kblin | hey summatusmentis :) |
| 14:24.32 | jelmer | rohananil: you mean is it ok to include it in your sources? |
| 14:24.46 | summatusmentis | hi kblin, what's up? |
| 14:24.53 | rohananil | jelmer: yes |
| 14:24.54 | jelmer | rohananil: yes, that shouldn't be a problem legally (but IANAL) |
| 14:25.06 | rohananil | IANAL ? |
| 14:25.22 | lh | i am not a lawyer |
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| 14:25.41 | araujo | le da una flor a lh |
| 14:25.49 | thebolt | lh: prioritize traveling over whisky atm :P |
| 14:25.51 | hypa7ia | rohananil: it should be gpl-fine, but why would you want to? |
| 14:25.52 | lh | or one is confessing to having obsessive compulsive disorder while shouting, but it's usually the lawyer thing |
| 14:26.05 | lh | araujo: hola mi amigo, como estas? |
| 14:26.06 | anki1 | when will be the list of mentoring orgs published ? |
| 14:26.12 | lh | thebolt: that is much more sane |
| 14:26.38 | kloeri | anki1: 1900UTC today |
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| 14:26.45 | rohananil | hypa7ia: because the other package is a library and its makefile seems to be broken , so ill just include the sources in my project (its only 3-4 files) |
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| 14:26.54 | thebolt | lh: hehe, hopefully yea :) (philippines, japan and hong kong in april ;-) |
| 14:26.56 | araujo | lh, todo muy bien amiga, y tu? ... :) |
| 14:27.02 | araujo | waiting for the orgs list |
| 14:27.11 | hypa7ia | rohananil: why not get it fixed in upstream? that way you don't have to maintain it |
| 14:27.34 | homunq | aruajo: en dónde estás? |
| 14:27.56 | homunq | qué tipo de flor? |
| 14:27.59 | araujo | homunq, you mean, country? |
| 14:27.59 | lh | araujo: tambien |
| 14:28.11 | lh | er you tampoco |
| 14:28.25 | homunq | yeah, country |
| 14:28.29 | araujo | lh, you got it right at first! |
| 14:28.31 | homunq | continent |
| 14:28.33 | homunq | whatev |
| 14:28.34 | lh | sigh |
| 14:28.36 | araujo | homunq, venezuela |
| 14:28.40 | araujo | lh, :D |
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| 14:28.47 | rohananil | hypa7ia: i guess, you are right , a little more work , will be better for future ( but i always struggle with autotools ) |
| 14:29.06 | lh | me gustan mucha las freesias |
| 14:29.16 | hypa7ia | rohananil: little more work now for much less in the long run :) |
| 14:29.20 | kblin | summatusmentis: my website, thanks to you reminding me about it |
| 14:29.30 | homunq | da un alcatraz a lh |
| 14:29.31 | summatusmentis | kblin: did you fix it? |
| 14:29.35 | araujo | le da una cesta de fresas a lh |
| 14:29.41 | homunq | cala lily in english |
| 14:29.46 | summatusmentis | kblin: you did! \o/ |
| 14:30.01 | araujo | homunq, y tu?, de donde eres? |
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| 14:30.09 | lh | que es alcatraz? |
| 14:30.14 | lh | ah i see |
| 14:30.22 | lh | gracias amigos |
| 14:30.26 | araujo | :) |
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| 14:30.28 | summatusmentis | kblin: is your name really kai? I had a cousin born recently and given that name |
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| 14:30.50 | araujo | lh, so, today starts the .... action? :P |
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| 14:31.10 | alexstre^ | in 5 hours or so ? :) |
| 14:31.20 | homunq | soy de por allà dónde google. Pero estoy en Chiapas, y ya soy medio chapin (guatemala) por afinición. |
| 14:31.23 | sharpdevelop | Google search is cool :-) We have people asking questions about gsoc already, even though we have not announced the fact the we are appling anywhere... |
| 14:31.23 | summatusmentis | araujo: what org are you? I'm sure I'e asked you this a thousand times |
| 14:31.25 | thebolt | i have a friend here called kai as well.. although he is named jia-kai ;) |
| 14:31.26 | lh | araujo: yes and no. the action started days ago. |
| 14:32.03 | araujo | summatusmentis, haha I am gentoo developer .. we applied, so, let's see if we make it |
| 14:32.17 | araujo | lh, yeah true |
| 14:32.23 | spectie | hola homunq |
| 14:32.31 | spectie | qué tal ? |
| 14:32.44 | araujo | homunq, de por alli, donde google??, CA? |
| 14:32.50 | summatusmentis | araujo: oh... I should've known that |
| 14:32.53 | homunq | yeah |
| 14:33.07 | homunq | but CA can mean california, canada, central america... |
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| 14:33.12 | spectie | de dónde eres tu araujo ? |
| 14:33.22 | rohananil | hypa7ia: oh , the library was not under gpl , its under BSD :) |
| 14:33.33 | summatusmentis | renames channel to #gsoc-es |
| 14:33.36 | webchick | Hm. Someone in here will know this. What is the name of the Portland web conference that the community is putting on in lieu of OSCON? |
| 14:33.37 | araujo | Hola spectie , venezuela, y tu?? |
| 14:33.46 | spectie | inglaterra, pero vivo en españa |
| 14:33.55 | araujo | homunq, aha yeah,-... you from central america? |
| 14:34.07 | lh | webchick: open source bridge |
| 14:34.08 | ajuonline | lol |
| 14:34.13 | webchick | lh, that's it! thanks! :D |
| 14:34.14 | homunq | aruajo: no, the CA with a googleplex |
| 14:34.21 | homunq | pretty near to that. |
| 14:34.22 | lh | webchick: @osbridge on twitter if that helps. and np. :) |
| 14:34.32 | araujo | homunq, got it, and you are in chiapas... that's .mx right? |
| 14:34.37 | homunq | yeah |
| 14:34.39 | webchick | is trying to sort out travel schedule over the summer and wants to see if that can be in it. |
| 14:34.42 | homunq | next to guate |
| 14:34.47 | kblin | summatusmentis: it is really Kai, as /whois kblin would tell you as well :) |
| 14:34.54 | lh | webchick: that'd be awesome. i would truly love to see you there. |
| 14:34.56 | araujo | homunq, i see, nice, working, studying there? |
| 14:35.03 | thebolt | webchick: i gave up on that a while ago.. i might just end up taking stand-by flight back to europe when i am finished here :P |
| 14:35.12 | summatusmentis | kblin: that's cool, I hadn't ever heard that name before my cousin, so that's why I ask |
| 14:35.15 | webchick | lh, If not, I will be at regular ol' OSCON, which is in your neck of the woods this year! |
| 14:35.16 | thebolt | (go to hong kong.. hang around until you get a flight to london ro so :P) |
| 14:35.17 | homunq | my daughter has lived all her 4 years in Guatemala |
| 14:35.22 | homunq | now my wife is studying here |
| 14:35.26 | lh | webchick: good point. :) |
| 14:35.30 | araujo | homunq, aaah hah, nice |
| 14:35.49 | kblin | summatusmentis: it's from celtic mythology, I think, it's not that common |
| 14:35.53 | araujo | homunq, you are going to participate in gsoc.. as a student, mentor? |
| 14:36.07 | summatusmentis | kblin: oh, ok. well cool |
| 14:36.08 | kblin | my parents picked it because it's easy to pronounce in most languages |
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| 14:36.11 | thebolt | kblin: as noted it also exists in chinese ;) |
| 14:36.14 | summatusmentis | I just have a boring name |
| 14:36.19 | homunq | program admin for sugarlabs, mentor... would be student for spectie if that were allowed. |
| 14:36.20 | kloeri | araujo: fun seeing gentoo stats as one the ideas again this year :) |
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| 14:36.39 | webchick | lh, and you *of course* will be coming to Paris in September for Drupalcon, right? RIGHT? ;) |
| 14:36.42 | spectie | :) |
| 14:36.46 | kblin | thebolt: probably |
| 14:36.51 | araujo | kloeri, what? |
| 14:36.56 | spectie | homunq, a ver si sale |
| 14:36.59 | homunq | lh: it's not, right? even if I don't mentor, I can't be program admin for sugarlabs and student for apertium? |
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| 14:37.06 | thebolt | kblin: well, it does.. i have a friend here in taiwan named jia-kai (called kai;) |
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| 14:37.15 | kloeri | araujo: it's like the 7th attempt or something like that - would be nice if it finally happens though |
| 14:37.33 | araujo | kloeri, oh, Gentoo has participated before |
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| 14:38.13 | lh | homunq: no, you cannot do both. please choose one and proceed accordingly. |
| 14:38.18 | kloeri | not just talking about gsoc - there's pretty much been an attempt at gentoo-stats every year since at least 2003 and they have a tendency to get abandoned half-way through unfortunately |
| 14:38.22 | homunq | I thought so. |
| 14:38.26 | lh | webchick: time to block the old calendar, clearly |
| 14:38.35 | araujo | homunq, sugarlabs...?? mmm.. is that something related to OLC? |
| 14:38.39 | araujo | OLPC |
| 14:38.44 | homunq | yeah |
| 14:38.45 | webchick | lh, Tentative dates are Sep 1 - 5, plus or minus a couple days. |
| 14:38.52 | homunq | last year they were the same |
| 14:39.12 | homunq | I guess "spinoff" is the word |
| 14:39.28 | lh | blocks |
| 14:40.02 | araujo | kloeri, let's see if we finally get it this year .... |
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| 14:40.08 | araujo | (the project) |
| 14:40.24 | kloeri | araujo: I hope so as it could be quite useful :) |
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| 14:41.54 | araujo | yeah, I don't know how may times students have worked in gentoo-stats ... i don't remember it from the last two years , but let's see what happens now :P |
| 14:42.49 | kloeri | I think it's been a gsoc project once or twice |
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| 14:55.58 | lh | i am never going to come up with a more clever title than meet your mentors. |
| 14:56.00 | lh | sigh. |
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| 14:56.41 | jpirie23 | See your Supporters? Hm that's worse.... lol |
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| 14:57.12 | rohananil | meet your mentors part V? |
| 14:57.32 | Ivanovic | rohananil: nah, "meet your mentors 2k9" |
| 14:57.34 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 14:57.35 | lh | rohananil: ah ha! perfect. |
| 14:57.49 | dberkholz | morning folks |
| 14:58.38 | hypa7ia | lh: call it "meat your mentors" and make it a BBQ |
| 14:58.45 | hypa7ia | (kidding) |
| 14:58.45 | jhil | haha :D |
| 14:58.45 | dberkholz | kloeri: well, not all of them have failed per se, but i think there's enough experience at this point that doing some good research should help avoiding most of the design issues that others have encountered w/ the stats |
| 14:58.59 | Ivanovic | hypa7ia: then the number of participating mentors might be a lot lower... |
| 14:59.01 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 14:59.02 | lh | hypa7ia: that sounds seriously tasty. i'll include some roasted peppers and hummus for jbailey |
| 14:59.11 | lh | now i want bbq |
| 14:59.18 | hypa7ia | lh: portabellos! |
| 14:59.27 | jbailey | reads the backscroll |
| 14:59.32 | lh | hypa7ia: good idea. i never think of that because i am not big on fungus |
| 14:59.32 | hypa7ia | Ivanovic: yeah, the whole geographical location thing gets in the way |
| 14:59.43 | lh | jbailey: we are accomodating your dietary needs in our virtual feast. |
| 14:59.48 | dberkholz | speaking of osbridge, i need to submit a proposal for that before long.. |
| 14:59.49 | jbailey | Awww, thanks! |
| 14:59.56 | lh | dberkholz: me too. |
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| 15:00.46 | dberkholz | i always put deadlines on my calendar and submit as late as possible because i've found that a lot of potential work turns out to actually disappear or otherwise take care of itself if you just wait |
| 15:01.29 | lh | applauds procrastination |
| 15:02.20 | dberkholz | lh: seen http://www.structuredprocrastination.com/ ? |
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| 15:02.49 | jbailey | dberkholz, I worked at a job once where as an experiment, I didn't start on anything my boss asked for, for 2 weeks. After a month, every one of the tasks had been cancelled before I started any work on them, so I quit and found a different job. |
| 15:02.51 | lh | dberkholz: nope |
| 15:02.53 | mdc | dberkholz: the downside is that as time availability lessens, the ability to recover from unexpected difficulties also lessens. Safety margin and redundancy are often very useful in mission-critical applications :) |
| 15:03.10 | grogs987 | haha, nice jbailey |
| 15:03.26 | mdc | deals with mission-critical stuff quite a bit :) |
| 15:03.33 | dberkholz | sounds like some scientists. lots of ideas, no follow-through |
| 15:03.33 | hypa7ia | well put, mdc |
| 15:04.33 | dberkholz | mdc: not too much of that in biochemistry ... deadlines don't really exist, you just work till it's done |
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| 15:04.57 | ajuonline | mdc: heyo! how are you doing ? |
| 15:05.15 | mdc | dberkholz: yes, I understand it's a very contextual need :) |
| 15:05.37 | kblin | dberkholz: there's paper submission deadlines |
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| 15:06.01 | mdc | ajuonline: hello :) I'm doing well -- enjoying the first hints of spring :) |
| 15:06.11 | smtms | kblin, what happens when you miss them? you end up in the next issue |
| 15:06.12 | mdc | hypa7ia: thanks :) |
| 15:06.31 | mdc | is in Cambridge, Massachusetts |
| 15:06.46 | dberkholz | kblin: deadlines? oh, for conferences you mean? |
| 15:07.18 | dberkholz | at least for us, the kind of papers that matter are the kind that get published in academic journals rather than conferences |
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| 15:07.31 | ajuonline | do we need to be added to a project group on sf.net to be able to send in patcheS? |
| 15:07.40 | djc | is there any ETA for the orgs list? |
| 15:07.41 | bcarlyon | Hey quick question, have the cards all been shut down |
| 15:07.51 | ajuonline | bcarlyon: march 28th iirc |
| 15:07.56 | bcarlyon | Just went on the site to see how much I have left ot move and its says inactive |
| 15:08.12 | bcarlyon | Ill try it when I go into town shortly |
| 15:08.13 | ajuonline | bcarlyon: you might want to check Ellen's mail |
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| 15:08.22 | bcarlyon | I have $1700 left to move |
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| 15:08.31 | bcarlyon | Ive been off email recently |
| 15:08.33 | bcarlyon | Most annoying |
| 15:08.38 | ajuonline | bcarlyon: i checked, on March 28th 2009. |
| 15:08.41 | bcarlyon | Did it go to the group ajuonline ? |
| 15:08.42 | bcarlyon | Cool |
| 15:08.46 | ajuonline | i mean thats what Ellenks mail had to say |
| 15:09.00 | bcarlyon | Im trying to find ellens email |
| 15:09.01 | ajuonline | bcarlyon: group and individuals |
| 15:09.10 | bcarlyon | Yes its march 28th |
| 15:09.16 | bcarlyon | LH sent one |
| 15:09.22 | kloeri | dberkholz: it's as much about people just abandonding it as design problems looking back over all the attempts |
| 15:09.24 | ajuonline | yup |
| 15:09.25 | kblin | work, you damn piece of crap |
| 15:09.31 | kblin | kicks his webapp |
| 15:09.50 | kloeri | dberkholz: but as I said I really hope to see gentoo-stats finished as it would be quite useful for many people |
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| 15:09.56 | djc | kblin: do you know an estimated time for publication of the orgs list tonight? |
| 15:09.58 | bcarlyon | Thanks all |
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| 15:10.03 | bcarlyon | Well ajuonline mainly |
| 15:10.30 | ajuonline | bcarlyon: :P |
| 15:10.41 | dberkholz | kloeri: it seems to me that it tends to get abandoned when people hit a design issue and don't have the motivation to reimplement that much of it |
| 15:10.47 | smtms | djc, the estimated time in the official timeline isn't enough for you? |
| 15:11.22 | durin42 | !next |
| 15:11.23 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 15:11.36 | djc | smtms: for some reason I keep thinking that the GCal will accurately reflect the timeline :| |
| 15:11.39 | djc | wrong again, I guess |
| 15:11.41 | kloeri | dberkholz: that hasn't always been the case but I would agree with that for the past few attempts |
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| 15:12.48 | djc | hmm, I guess it *is* on the Cal, just also as a full-day event |
| 15:12.53 | djc | never mind me, I guess :| |
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| 15:13.22 | dberkholz | kloeri: yeah, the first couple never built any community around them so when the 1 maintainer left, they died. nobody else knew the code at all, and i think it was usually a non-gentoo-infra on the server side. |
| 15:14.14 | kloeri | yup |
| 15:14.29 | dberkholz | i couldn't even track down code for the original one |
| 15:14.31 | dberkholz | i found the 2nd one |
| 15:14.56 | dberkholz | but the server code had a way of vanishing because it wasn't in the main tree |
| 15:15.29 | kloeri | there was a stats project up and running before I joined gentoo (it was shut down shortly before I joined iirc) |
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| 15:15.45 | dberkholz | i think that was already the second one |
| 15:15.51 | kloeri | quite possible |
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| 15:16.16 | dberkholz | anyway, getting a bit OT for here and don't want to stretch too long |
| 15:16.27 | lynxlynxlynx | package version and computer details stats? |
| 15:16.39 | kloeri | it's just funny that a supposedly simple project keeps coming back like a zombie :p |
| 15:16.49 | kloeri | lynxlynxlynx: yeah |
| 15:17.01 | lynxlynxlynx | we have a similar problem :) |
| 15:17.13 | kloeri | with zombies? :P |
| 15:17.24 | lynxlynxlynx | rh has some nice statistic thing btw |
| 15:17.38 | lynxlynxlynx | zombies are always a problem |
| 15:17.47 | dberkholz | smolt does hardware only |
| 15:17.56 | kloeri | debian and ubuntu have popularity contest |
| 15:17.57 | dberkholz | that is an interesting option for the future, though |
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| 15:18.28 | kloeri | there's quite a few implementations of this idea actually but they need to be somewhat distribution specific of course |
| 15:18.40 | kloeri | or rather, they need support for specific distributions |
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| 15:19.58 | lynxlynxlynx | of course |
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| 15:20.21 | lynxlynxlynx | something pluggable would be best, so there is less duplication of effort |
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| 15:20.59 | lh | !timeline |
| 15:21.00 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 15:21.11 | kloeri | lynxlynxlynx: that would be interesting imo |
| 15:21.37 | dberkholz | smolt already has multiple distro ports |
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| 15:22.37 | lynxlynxlynx | it's almost only for hw like you said though |
| 15:22.39 | spectie | borja, |
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| 15:22.53 | dberkholz | that's what makes it a summer of code project instead of a trivial port |
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| 15:23.38 | lynxlynxlynx | depends if they'd want it |
| 15:23.50 | lynxlynxlynx | the scope is clearly states as hw |
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| 15:39.13 | lh | jbailey: if you have a moment, thar be a blog post for ye to review |
| 15:39.43 | jbailey | lh, Eh, really? |
| 15:40.07 | jbailey | lh, The one you sent to Karen? |
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| 15:40.31 | sanil | !next |
| 15:40.31 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 15:40.52 | lh | jbailey: nope, new one, just sent |
| 15:40.58 | spectie | will you be on hand this evening or tomorrow to let non-successful organisations know how they can improve their apps like last year lh? |
| 15:41.05 | jbailey | lh, Ah, haven't got it yet. |
| 15:41.14 | lh | spectie: yes. |
| 15:41.16 | spectie | cool |
| 15:41.55 | lh | spectie: to be clear, i need to write a testing guide for the student features of the socghop.appspot.com this afternoon and to help orgs that have questions about how to fill out their profiles, etc., so those are my first two priorities. |
| 15:42.10 | spectie | understandably |
| 15:42.26 | homunq | impressed that spectie can use "this evening" to talk about Ih's evening, not his. |
| 15:42.28 | spectie | hence the tomorrow too ;) |
| 15:42.31 | spectie | lol |
| 15:42.50 | danderson | recommends that disappointed orgs hold their questions for 24hrs |
| 15:42.56 | danderson | to let the dust settle for lh |
| 15:43.04 | MatthewWilkes | danderson: and drown their sorrows? |
| 15:43.07 | lh | danderson: actually, that's a fine idea. thanks! |
| 15:43.12 | spectie | ok |
| 15:43.23 | danderson | MatthewWilkes: exactly, it's also a great time for a bit of a drink |
| 15:43.23 | danderson | :P |
| 15:43.25 | lh | and word of fair warning |
| 15:43.30 | FallenDevil | danderson, btw, are you google employee? |
| 15:43.36 | danderson | seriously though, if you can't wait, try to ask other ops, not lh |
| 15:43.37 | lh | for most of you the answer is going to be: i am sorry, we simply cannot accept everyone. |
| 15:43.42 | danderson | we can give you general advice |
| 15:43.55 | danderson | lh is the only one with the final word on why, specifically, you didn't make it |
| 15:43.57 | spectie | ah ok, so there weren't so many bad applications this year? |
| 15:44.02 | danderson | but we may be able to offer words of wisdom |
| 15:44.11 | danderson | while lh fights with more urgent stuff |
| 15:44.14 | danderson | FallenDevil: yes. |
| 15:44.14 | spectie | that's all we ask for danderson ;) |
| 15:44.18 | homunq | or even 48 hours? It's still a small fraction of 50 weeks... |
| 15:44.18 | lh | spectie: no, there weren't. there were many many good ones. making decisions this year was the toughest yet. |
| 15:44.52 | spectie | ouf |
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| 15:46.19 | ESphynx | prepares his gin bottle :( |
| 15:46.26 | thebolt | well, it always sucks when you have to say "no" to people/things you want to say "yes" to.. we've had to do this all years with our students.. you have to do it when you hire people etc.. its just part of it |
| 15:46.49 | thebolt | sometimes not everyone can get what they want.. unfortunately |
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| 15:46.58 | thebolt | (or maybe that is the main diriving force behind improvement..) |
| 15:47.00 | ajuonline | life is unfair |
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| 15:47.19 | homunq | most of us... that means that there were fewer than 100 apps which were rejected for (flaws resulting from) being unengaged in gsoc process |
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| 15:47.31 | mdc | Life is life. Unfairness is a judgement made by us :) |
| 15:47.40 | thebolt | hey mdc , how do you do? |
| 15:47.41 | homunq | ie, over 300 high-quality apps which could well be represented by people in this channel. |
| 15:47.50 | mdc | I'm well, thebolt :) |
| 15:47.52 | mdc | How are you? |
| 15:48.00 | thebolt | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.04 | thebolt | mdc: i'm great! |
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| 15:48.15 | mdc | Excellent! |
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| 15:51.21 | lh | and already it begins |
| 15:52.01 | lh | folks, we do not have unlimited funds nor unlimited human resources. we do the best we can with what we have. please don't take the decisions made personally and please don't begin getting miffed already. nothing has been announced. |
| 15:52.06 | homunq | cares about 3 different orgs, wonders whether that is better or worse. Guaranteed to be disappointed some, but a better chance of at least some consolation. |
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| 15:52.28 | danderson | like lh said, it's really not personal |
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| 15:52.35 | danderson | seriously, I know lh, it's not personal |
| 15:52.52 | ESphynx | google doesn't have unlimited funds? :P Come on, google owns the planet :P |
| 15:52.53 | danderson | but treasure chests are not infinite |
| 15:52.53 | lynxlynxlynx | lh: i suggest you disregard irc or specifically this channel for a day |
| 15:52.57 | lh | no it's not personal. in fact, there were several folks that we all "like" that were cut. |
| 15:53.03 | lil_Toady | !timeline |
| 15:53.03 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 15:53.04 | homunq | lh, I think we're not taking things personally. It is healthy to prepare for disappointment, and part of that is playing out the stages of grief. |
| 15:53.12 | easwar | BTW,where's the list of accepted organizations anyway? |
| 15:53.14 | mmadia | lh : do press releases include "we were accepted or rejected by gsoc 2009" articles? |
| 15:53.15 | homunq | in miniature form. |
| 15:53.22 | ESphynx | easwar it's not ready yet :P 3 hours to go |
| 15:53.28 | lh | homunq: fair enough |
| 15:53.31 | lil_Toady | in about 3 hours easwar |
| 15:53.44 | easwar | ah,yes |
| 15:53.49 | danderson | lh: if you want help to police the channel, I'm on a train and offline until ~20:00 UTC |
| 15:53.54 | kitallis | i'm more like 'omg' |
| 15:54.01 | easwar | made a mistake in converting timezones |
| 15:54.06 | lh | danderson: good to know, thank you |
| 15:54.10 | danderson | so I can't help with the initial onslaught, but if you feel like it, just mute the channel for an hour and I'll deal with the fallout when I get back :P |
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| 15:54.16 | mmadia | lh : that quesntion is from looking at http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/press |
| 15:54.18 | yadu_ | hi all |
| 15:54.25 | homunq | also, in preparation, remember that any swearing you need to do can go on ##gsoc |
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| 15:54.41 | lil_Toady | why mute all :( could at least set some voices |
| 15:54.42 | kitallis | easwar: i added +5:30, maybe you should try that |
| 15:54.42 | easwar | lh, all the best :P |
| 15:54.50 | danderson | also remember that stupidity/nastiness, in any form whatsoever, will not be tolerated |
| 15:54.56 | easwar | kitallis, I did that,but made a mistake |
| 15:54.56 | kblin | lh: I should be around if needed, I just need to leave shortly before 20:00UTC |
| 15:54.59 | danderson | and will earn you at best a cooling off kick |
| 15:55.03 | lh | kblin: okay thank you |
| 15:55.13 | Arc | ok so we have three hours to get our ideas page in student-ready form |
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| 15:55.21 | Arc | ? |
| 15:55.22 | Lennie | I'll be here for technical issues :D |
| 15:55.36 | lh | Arc: sort of hang on |
| 15:55.36 | danderson | it's okay to be disappointed, but not to lash out at people or try to find sinister motivations |
| 15:55.38 | lh | Lennie: thank you |
| 15:55.40 | lil_Toady | suppose they already have a list of accepted organizations |
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| 15:55.54 | easwar | kitallis, where are you from? |
| 15:55.56 | lh | and i want to add what danderson just said |
| 15:56.19 | lh | comments like, but we are so much better than this project that is similar or we had a better ideas list or whatever, bad form. that' |
| 15:56.37 | danderson | lh is being too polite about it. |
| 15:56.40 | lynxlynxlynx | oh, so other conspiracy theories are ok? :) |
| 15:56.43 | lh | it's valid to ask what the differentiating factor was in our minds. claims of superiority just set poorly with me. |
| 15:56.49 | kblin | lynxlynxlynx: you can try |
| 15:56.50 | danderson | "bad form" my foot. If you start playing stupid, I can play stupid too |
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| 15:56.52 | lil_Toady | could somebody please tell a link to where the list will appear so i bookmark it? |
| 15:56.55 | danderson | and I have the biggest cluebat |
| 15:57.05 | lh | lil_Toady: no. |
| 15:57.07 | lh | wait. |
| 15:57.16 | lil_Toady | aw, ok |
| 15:57.18 | lynxlynxlynx | hehe |
| 15:57.28 | easwar | lh, take a deep breath |
| 15:57.36 | easwar | wait 2 seconds |
| 15:57.39 | easwar | exhale |
| 15:57.44 | lynxlynxlynx | imagines the page being slashdotted and the whole #gsoc wailing in terror |
| 15:57.44 | z4chh | !timeline |
| 15:57.44 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 15:57.46 | easwar | repeat |
| 15:57.47 | kitallis | easwar: India |
| 15:58.01 | homunq | repeats, if you really need to be nasty, ##gsoc is over there. With the understanding that you're just venting, and you won't really mean it when you calm down. |
| 15:58.02 | easwar | kitallis, obviously,where in India? |
| 15:58.08 | kitallis | easwar: Delhi |
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| 15:58.19 | easwar | kitallis, Bombay |
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| 15:58.36 | MatthewWilkes | Well, I just asked my omikuji keyring (only religious artifact I own, but that's because it was a nice gift, not any form of belief) and it said great blessing. Therefore I resolve to stop worrying for a few hours |
| 15:58.49 | lh | heh. nice. didn |
| 15:58.51 | z4chh | what like 3 hours until org list comes out? |
| 15:58.52 | kitallis | easwar: Wanna do Drugs? |
| 15:58.57 | lh | didn't realize ##gsoc was still in use |
| 15:58.58 | danderson | !next |
| 15:58.58 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 15:59.02 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: sounds like a nice idea :) |
| 15:59.06 | easwar | kitallis, huh? |
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| 15:59.15 | ajuonline | kitallis: what do you think is this channel for? |
| 15:59.18 | kitallis | easwar: oh, nothing |
| 15:59.29 | PulpFictionPunja | 19:00 UTCand someone said 3 hours remaining? |
| 15:59.30 | z4chh | i think 12:00 noon pdt is in 3 hours o.o |
| 15:59.49 | danderson | ask google |
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| 15:59.51 | z4chh | i dont even know what UTC is hah |
| 15:59.52 | easwar | PulpFictionPunja, yeah |
| 15:59.53 | arunreddy | Things gettin heated up.!!! |
| 15:59.55 | danderson | "time in san francisco" |
| 15:59.58 | danderson | seriously, go google that |
| 16:00.00 | lil_Toady | gmt z4chh |
| 16:00.01 | danderson | it will tell you PDT time. |
| 16:00.07 | arunreddy | lol |
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| 16:00.21 | yadu_ | i guess india is +5.30 UTC |
| 16:00.24 | PulpFictionPunja | aah thanks, i was converting the time and it came out otherwise. cool. |
| 16:00.25 | grogs987 | utc is standard time |
| 16:00.29 | easwar | yadu_, yes |
| 16:00.30 | z4chh | oh |
| 16:00.31 | thebolt | utc = unified time coordinate.. replaced gmt a couple of years ago (tiny difference in definition as well) as the main reference for time |
| 16:00.36 | yadu_ | lots of waiting... |
| 16:00.39 | lynxlynxlynx | don't worry about the timezone or hours |
| 16:00.46 | yadu_ | easwar, i'm from kerala |
| 16:00.47 | _dr | what year? |
| 16:00.49 | easwar | wasn't that Universal Coordinated Time? |
| 16:00.51 | z4chh | well it is 1600 UTC then? |
| 16:00.54 | lynxlynxlynx | i'm sure this place will be buzzing when it happens |
| 16:00.56 | easwar | thebolt, ^ |
| 16:00.58 | z4chh | right now |
| 16:01.03 | easwar | yadu_, hmm |
| 16:01.09 | yadu_ | easwar, what about you? |
| 16:01.13 | grogs987 | is quit ebusy now lynxlynxlynx |
| 16:01.15 | thebolt | will be nicely asleep when the reslts is announced |
| 16:01.19 | easwar | yadu_, Bombay |
| 16:01.20 | thebolt | its midnight here already :P |
| 16:01.22 | kitallis | ajuonline: apart from stuff about gsoc and programming, kinda like for throwing in a few ounces of sarcasm |
| 16:01.29 | kblin | easwar: they made it UTC so the acronym didn't work for both english and french |
| 16:01.35 | z4chh | ill be taking a final.. |
| 16:01.39 | Arc | lh: please give us a window between which we can make final mods to the student application template. |
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| 16:01.54 | lynxlynxlynx | kblin: hehe |
| 16:02.02 | yadu_ | easwar, are there any indian organisations that do gsoc besides smc? |
| 16:02.04 | ajuonline | kitallis: whatever, but certainly not for drugs discussion |
| 16:02.08 | easwar | kblin, hmm,but that went way over me |
| 16:02.14 | yadu_ | easwar, any that you are aware of? |
| 16:02.24 | easwar | yadu_, don't know |
| 16:02.30 | PulpFictionPunja | smc does gsoc? can neone link me please? |
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| 16:02.42 | easwar | wants to know what is SMC |
| 16:02.46 | yadu_ | i guess PulpFictionPunja . |
| 16:02.58 | yadu_ | PulpFictionPunja, wait..... smc did in 2007.. |
| 16:03.05 | z4chh | i didn't get any sleep last night o_o |
| 16:03.07 | PulpFictionPunja | yadu_: a link or something? i never knew about it. would be cool if they did. |
| 16:03.21 | ajuonline | passes around chocolates & cheese |
| 16:03.46 | danderson | mkay, laterz |
| 16:03.50 | ESphynx | takes some |
| 16:03.52 | danderson | lh: good luck with the madness |
| 16:03.58 | kblin | easwar: it's universal coordinated time (UCT) in englisha and temps coordinée universelle (TCU) in french. but picking one of these would annoy the other party |
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| 16:04.20 | easwar | kblin, oh,ok |
| 16:04.21 | yadu_ | PulpFictionPunja, where r u from ? |
| 16:04.21 | lh | danderson: merci. |
| 16:04.29 | yadu_ | PulpFictionPunja, i'm on it.. |
| 16:04.43 | yadu_ | http://wiki.smc.org.in/SoC/2009 |
| 16:04.44 | kblin | easwar: and given that the definition of "compromise" is "a solution everybody is equally unhappy with", they picked UTC |
| 16:04.58 | ESphynx | lol |
| 16:05.04 | PulpFictionPunja | yadu_: thanks |
| 16:05.08 | yadu_ | easwar, i agree,totally.... |
| 16:05.08 | ESphynx | I didn't know that story :) |
| 16:05.24 | yadu_ | PulpFictionPunja, i am very skeptical though.... |
| 16:05.42 | easwar | kblin, heh |
| 16:05.52 | easwar | yadu_, agree completely with what? |
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| 16:06.09 | PulpFictionPunja | yadu_: Chandigarh :0 |
| 16:06.40 | homunq | didn't know that about UTC being a backwards compromise. cool factoid. |
| 16:06.41 | yadu_ | easwar, the stupid UTC |
| 16:06.58 | yadu_ | PulpFictionPunja, i'm from trivandrum |
| 16:07.07 | easwar | well,I never said UTC was stupid |
| 16:07.08 | easwar | lol |
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| 16:07.17 | PulpFictionPunja | yadu_: cool! |
| 16:07.34 | easwar | Is ajuonline still passing the chocolates and cheese? |
| 16:07.38 | yadu_ | easwar, google choosing this awkward time was stupid...thats whta i meant.. |
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| 16:07.49 | homunq | also finds it funny that the French are so picky, while no spanish-speaker cares that much. TCU in spanish to but meh? |
| 16:07.57 | yadu_ | PulpFictionPunja, why ? u've been to trivandrum |
| 16:08.11 | easwar | yadu_, well,it's awkward for us,but UTC is a time everyone can calculate their timezone from |
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| 16:08.33 | lh | goes to get breakfast before the insanity begins |
| 16:08.33 | homunq | s/to/too/ |
| 16:08.41 | PulpFictionPunja | well, we are from the same soil so! |
| 16:09.09 | mdc | bon apetit, lh :) |
| 16:09.14 | lil_Toady | begins the insanity while lh is gone |
| 16:09.27 | easwar | lil_Toady, ok,I'll join you |
| 16:09.29 | easwar | start |
| 16:09.30 | easwar | :P |
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| 16:09.43 | MatthewWilkes | easwar, lil_Toady: Please don't, you'll drive me to insanity |
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| 16:10.02 | easwar | MatthewWilkes, well,i was j/k |
| 16:10.25 | yadu_ | easwar, maybe but it'd have been better if it was sooner |
| 16:10.31 | homunq | !swear |
| 16:10.31 | socinfo | Error: "swear" is not a valid command. |
| 16:10.50 | yadu_ | PulpFictionPunja, so you r in college na?? which year? |
| 16:10.57 | homunq | !learn swear as you can swear and vent in ##gsoc. |
| 16:10.58 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 16:11.07 | PulpFictionPunja | rofl @ homunq |
| 16:11.14 | MatthewWilkes | easwar: I'd have thought going through this the 2nd time wouldn't be as bad as the first time, but you can't help but think your app should have been better, second guess all your answers, etc |
| 16:11.24 | PulpFictionPunja | yadu_: 2nd! Computer science and engineering |
| 16:11.29 | isforinsects | homunq: well done :P |
| 16:11.38 | yadu_ | PulpFictionPunja, hey me too .... |
| 16:11.47 | yadu_ | PulpFictionPunja, which college? |
| 16:11.47 | PulpFictionPunja | cool :D |
| 16:12.16 | PulpFictionPunja | RBIEBT, u wont even have heard of it, i didnt also :D |
| 16:12.20 | kr0y | !swear |
| 16:12.20 | socinfo | "swear" is you can swear and vent in ##gsoc. |
| 16:12.25 | kr0y | :P |
| 16:12.42 | *** part/#gsoc PulpFictionPunja (n=relativi@122.173.22.166) |
| 16:12.43 | yadu_ | PulpFictionPunja, i'm from CET, its kinda popular in the south .. |
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| 16:13.36 | lut4rp | yadu_, y0 man |
| 16:13.39 | PulpFictionPunja | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.40 | kitallis | yadu_: you sound Indian :< |
| 16:13.52 | yadu_ | kitallis, i am indian |
| 16:13.56 | kitallis | Ah |
| 16:14.02 | easwar | PulpFictionPunja, ajuonline |
| 16:14.05 | yadu_ | kitallis, kerala.. |
| 16:14.12 | easwar | sid0, |
| 16:14.17 | z4chh | anyone from the US? |
| 16:14.18 | kitallis | Delhi :P |
| 16:14.28 | PulpFictionPunja | neone else? lol. |
| 16:14.29 | yadu_ | lut4rp, hi |
| 16:14.33 | easwar | MatthewWilkes, hmm |
| 16:14.39 | yadu_ | kitallis, which college? |
| 16:14.45 | ajuonline | please redirect all your india related nonsense queries to ##gsoc-india |
| 16:14.46 | ajuonline | lol |
| 16:14.49 | PulpFictionPunja | i dont want to be blasted with sarcasm on every word i mention |
| 16:14.53 | PulpFictionPunja | ajuonline: :P |
| 16:14.55 | easwar | ajuonline, +1 |
| 16:15.09 | kitallis | ajuonline: he thinks he's superior |
| 16:15.14 | kitallis | oops |
| 16:15.14 | ajuonline | PulpFictionPunja: open source and sarcasm, go hand in hand. |
| 16:15.14 | yadu_ | ajuonline, dude...dont question our freedom to babble |
| 16:15.25 | PulpFictionPunja | seconds kitallis! |
| 16:15.28 | kitallis | yadu_ ajuonline thinks he's superior |
| 16:15.45 | GeneralMaximus | nice friendly chat here, eh? |
| 16:15.46 | ajuonline | kitallis: of course I am, i wear underwear on top of my pants. |
| 16:15.47 | yadu_ | kitallis, i dont mind..... |
| 16:16.02 | easwar | Linus Torvalds once said,"Talk is cheap,show me the code" |
| 16:16.07 | easwar | yadu_, ^ |
| 16:16.13 | neo7 | shameful on being an indian |
| 16:16.13 | yadu_ | kitallis, do you know this ajuonline in person ? |
| 16:16.24 | ajuonline | neo7: why? dude? |
| 16:16.29 | easwar | so redirect the babble to ##gsoc-india |
| 16:16.34 | ajuonline | hates when someone says that |
| 16:16.36 | Lennie | ajuonline |
| 16:16.39 | kitallis | that, that ... isn't superior at all ... how about my 4 day old can of pepsi lying on the table upside down? |
| 16:16.47 | amit8-88 | yadu_: I am his roommate :) |
| 16:16.49 | Lennie | ajuonline: ready for a game of Secret Agent Laser Obstacle Pizza Lunch? |
| 16:16.49 | yadu_ | easwar, this is your first stint with gsoc ? |
| 16:16.52 | ajuonline | Lennie: the new episode was f#$%& hillarious! awesome~ |
| 16:16.57 | neo7 | ajuonline :you are seeing it here |
| 16:16.57 | ajuonline | Lennie: yeah yeah! |
| 16:17.07 | ajuonline | neo7: ignorance is bliss. |
| 16:17.10 | yadu_ | amit8-88, lord...save me everyone is indian here |
| 16:17.20 | easwar | ajuonline, now don't go around using my statements about underwear on top |
| 16:17.28 | easwar | yadu_, yes |
| 16:17.32 | kitallis | Indians like me crap everywhere |
| 16:17.49 | easwar | ajuonline, :P |
| 16:17.51 | yadu_ | kitallis, cant help it..... |
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| 16:17.52 | PulpFictionPunja | kitallis: dude be careful bout even squeaking bout anythign anti indian |
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| 16:18.06 | PulpFictionPunja | u dont know hypocrisy runs high in these channels :) |
| 16:18.10 | kitallis | I included myself, so its ok |
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| 16:18.18 | yadu_ | kitallis, juz look at the happy rest, watchin the show |
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| 16:18.37 | kitallis | they are not actually watcing the show, they're probably doing something productive |
| 16:18.37 | PulpFictionPunja | kitallis: i dont mind. i opnely criticize what is wrong. why sugar coat what is wrong? |
| 16:19.05 | PulpFictionPunja | kitallis: which part of delhi u from? |
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| 16:19.30 | kitallis | PulpFictionPunja, Heard of Rohini? ... North Delhi |
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| 16:19.38 | PulpFictionPunja | yeah i have.! |
| 16:19.48 | kitallis | you? |
| 16:19.52 | yadu_ | kitallis, which college are you from ? gsoc first time? |
| 16:19.55 | PulpFictionPunja | i m from good ol' chandigarh |
| 16:20.03 | lut4rp | Chandigarh isn't old. |
| 16:20.09 | lut4rp | :P |
| 16:20.14 | PulpFictionPunja | ha ha.. |
| 16:20.16 | kitallis | lut4rp: hey |
| 16:20.23 | lut4rp | kitallis, hey |
| 16:20.33 | kitallis | I'm from MSIT, IP |
| 16:20.41 | PulpFictionPunja | i feel, two things are very common around here |
| 16:20.46 | PulpFictionPunja | Indians and people who love drupal |
| 16:20.57 | ajuonline | PulpFictionPunja: nope. i *hate* it. |
| 16:21.01 | ajuonline | lol :) |
| 16:21.04 | kitallis | Dude, I HATE drupal |
| 16:21.06 | ajuonline | except webchick rocks ;) |
| 16:21.08 | GeneralMaximus | PulpFictionPunja: hey. i'm both |
| 16:21.15 | GeneralMaximus | how cool is that? |
| 16:21.18 | PulpFictionPunja | everyone else seems to like drupal around here. |
| 16:21.18 | ajuonline | Joomla! ftw :) |
| 16:21.26 | MatthewWilkes | whispers "plone" |
| 16:21.28 | MatthewWilkes | (pass it on) |
| 16:21.33 | lut4rp | kitallis, ?? |
| 16:21.37 | lut4rp | why do you hate it? |
| 16:21.44 | yadu_ | GeneralMaximus, you are indian too ? |
| 16:21.45 | easwar | (plone) |
| 16:21.47 | kitallis | Cause I'm a Rubyist |
| 16:21.54 | kitallis | Rubyist's hate Drupal |
| 16:21.54 | lut4rp | and so? |
| 16:21.55 | PulpFictionPunja | GeneralMaximus is from delhi i guess. airtel internet. aah. |
| 16:22.00 | GeneralMaximus | yadu_: yep |
| 16:22.01 | lut4rp | kitallis, ahh is it? |
| 16:22.04 | kitallis | They Love their RoR |
| 16:22.06 | yadu_ | kitallis, i think we should start taking census here in IRCs |
| 16:22.23 | yadu_ | GeneralMaximus, first time on gsoc? |
| 16:22.34 | lut4rp | kitallis, may I be kind to tell you that one of the initial core RoR developers was Indian, and he was a Drupal contributor as well. |
| 16:22.34 | yadu_ | GeneralMaximus, where r u from ? |
| 16:22.37 | lut4rp | :) |
| 16:22.38 | GeneralMaximus | yadu_: yep |
| 16:22.53 | GeneralMaximus | yadu_: New Delhi |
| 16:22.57 | GeneralMaximus | yadu_: IPU |
| 16:23.00 | PulpFictionPunja | ajuonline: i know u hate me as such, but still ne suggestions u have for GSoC? |
| 16:23.03 | kitallis | lut4rp: well, then I don't care about that one single indian :P |
| 16:23.23 | yadu_ | GeneralMaximus, 2nd year ? |
| 16:23.24 | lut4rp | kitallis, you better care about RoR core devels, ruby fanboi :P |
| 16:23.29 | kitallis | hehe |
| 16:23.31 | yadu_ | GeneralMaximus, comp.sci ? |
| 16:23.39 | GeneralMaximus | yadu_: nah, first. not CS, IT |
| 16:23.43 | ajuonline | PulpFictionPunja: what makes you think so? I dont hate anyone except by ex. |
| 16:23.49 | ajuonline | oops! |
| 16:24.04 | PulpFictionPunja | ajuonline: ha ha. ok. |
| 16:24.04 | kitallis | yadu_ : dude, calm down, you can lower down your queries a bit |
| 16:24.07 | ajuonline | PulpFictionPunja: you are more than welcome on ##gsoc-india every one is :) |
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| 16:24.10 | yadu_ | GeneralMaximus, nice....tryin gsoc in first year.... i didn't know it existed then |
| 16:24.11 | GeneralMaximus | i spent the first 15 minutes here chuckling at what kitallis was saying |
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| 16:24.30 | GeneralMaximus | he's that annoying in real life, too |
| 16:24.36 | lut4rp | rofl |
| 16:24.53 | kitallis | GeneralMaximus: And what makes you think youre not? |
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| 16:24.58 | yadu_ | kitallis, thanx....... |
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| 16:25.34 | GeneralMaximus | kitallis: me? i help people out when they're high |
| 16:25.41 | GeneralMaximus | kitallis: that's why |
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| 16:26.02 | kitallis | GeneralMaximus: that don't prove why you're 'not' annoying |
| 16:26.09 | easwar | !advice |
| 16:26.10 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
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| 16:26.23 | easwar | PulpFictionPunja, ^^ |
| 16:26.27 | kitallis | !next |
| 16:26.28 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
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| 16:26.40 | PulpFictionPunja | easwar: rofl dude. |
| 16:26.50 | kitallis | 2.5 hrs left |
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| 16:27.06 | GeneralMaximus | kitallis: shhh. don't let people know i suck. |
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| 16:27.36 | kitallis | GeneralMaximus: NOO, I BILL tell evryoone |
| 16:28.26 | GeneralMaximus | btw, how many Python guys here? |
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| 16:29.18 | adimania | !alarm |
| 16:29.18 | socinfo | Error: "alarm" is not a valid command. |
| 16:29.51 | MatthewWilkes | GeneralMaximus: I'm not PSF, but am a python guy |
| 16:30.03 | durin42 | GeneralMaximus: a fair number of Python users here, if that's what you mean |
| 16:30.15 | durin42 | several orgs every year use Python |
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| 16:30.25 | GeneralMaximus | durin42: sweet |
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| 16:30.54 | ajuonline | and if you are looking for a kool python project to work on this summer, maybe you should take a look at www.sahanapy.org |
| 16:30.58 | ajuonline | GeneralMaximus: ^ |
| 16:31.25 | MaNI | most of the gentoo proposals require python |
| 16:31.35 | MatthewWilkes | Plone too |
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| 16:31.50 | GeneralMaximus | ajuonline: a disaster management system? whoa. |
| 16:31.56 | ajuonline | _kr0y_: whats up with the id changes? |
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| 16:32.05 | ajuonline | GeneralMaximus: yeah #sahana :) |
| 16:32.06 | locutus4 | any delay ? |
| 16:32.09 | easwar | Plone |
| 16:32.16 | ajuonline | kr0y: :D |
| 16:32.53 | kr0y | ajuonline: I was disconnected from the server and then having nick clashes |
| 16:33.36 | BarryCarlyon | has returned from the bank |
| 16:33.38 | BarryCarlyon | All is well :-D |
| 16:33.49 | locutus4 | any delay for organization publishing expected ? |
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| 16:34.22 | lynxlynxlynx | that'd be hilarious |
| 16:35.02 | homunq | locutus4: the way lh was talking this morning, they seem to be on-track |
| 16:35.05 | MatthewWilkes | locutus4: The time stated is 12ish, I'd be amazed if it was 12. Expect it sometime after 12 |
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| 16:35.21 | homunq | remembers last year student announcement delay... that was hell |
| 16:35.27 | homunq | I was at work... |
| 16:35.41 | scorche | meh....it comes when it comes |
| 16:35.45 | PulpFictionPunja | respects homunq's sense of humour. |
| 16:35.53 | scorche | a few hours wont make much of a difference.. |
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| 16:36.15 | lut4rp | searches for some DreamTheatre |
| 16:36.34 | lh | with melange, we no longer expect delays like you experienced in the past. |
| 16:36.40 | ajuonline | awesomeness ! |
| 16:36.47 | lh | yay for improved infrastructure that y'all can use to do your own programs, too. |
| 16:36.48 | lh | :) |
| 16:36.50 | ajuonline | thanks Lennie and the #melange team :) |
| 16:37.01 | thebolt | lut4rp: no need to search.. its all there in a neat folder ;) (or well, when i am home its all there in the CD holder :) |
| 16:37.23 | lut4rp | thebolt, :) |
| 16:37.42 | Lennie | the delay shouldnt be hours this year :) |
| 16:37.53 | locutus4 | #lh melange is open source? |
| 16:38.14 | MatthewWilkes | locutus4: Hell yes. |
| 16:38.19 | lut4rp | thebolt, I can't find Systematic Chaos. Ugh. |
| 16:38.21 | lut4rp | :) |
| 16:38.31 | locutus4 | so where I can get code of it ? |
| 16:38.41 | MatthewWilkes | locutus4: svn co http://soc.googlecode.com/svn/trunk melange |
| 16:38.57 | ajuonline | locutus4: yes it is. |
| 16:39.00 | thebolt | lut4rp: ah.. closest web-cd-store maybe? ;) |
| 16:39.03 | MatthewWilkes | locutus4: See http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 16:39.08 | lh | locutus4: yes. you will be assimilated. |
| 16:39.20 | lh | or should get busy assimilating. either works. |
| 16:39.22 | lut4rp | thebolt, I had them somewhere... :/ |
| 16:39.27 | lut4rp | goes back to searching |
| 16:39.54 | ajuonline | lh: are we allowed to use the phrase Summer of Code? or its TM etc? for e.g. FooBar Summer of Code for a Foobar FOSS project? |
| 16:40.57 | easwar | ajuonline, I think http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/press |
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| 16:42.42 | kumarabhi | hey people, i had a question ! how do u write a patch for a software |
| 16:42.44 | kumarabhi | ? |
| 16:42.57 | kumarabhi | say patch for anjuta? |
| 16:43.03 | lh | Google Summer of Code is trademarked, Summer of Code is not. We ask folks to make it clear that their program is inspired by Google Summer of Code but not affiliated with it. |
| 16:43.25 | ajuonline | of course ;) |
| 16:43.27 | davr | f'kumarabhi: are you asking how to write the code, or asking what to do with your code once you've written it? |
| 16:43.31 | BarryCarlyon | hugs lh |
| 16:43.50 | ajuonline | does a group hug |
| 16:43.53 | lh | BarryCarlyon: how are you dear? long time no talk. |
| 16:43.54 | BarryCarlyon | Yay! |
| 16:43.56 | lh | joins group hug |
| 16:43.58 | BarryCarlyon | Im good thanks. |
| 16:43.59 | lh | yay hugs! |
| 16:44.07 | BarryCarlyon | I discovered I still ahve $1700 in my account |
| 16:44.11 | BarryCarlyon | I was quite amused. |
| 16:44.11 | Ivanovic | kumarabhi: uhm, you change the code and use the programm "diff" on the old file and the new one |
| 16:44.16 | ajuonline | BarryCarlyon: you can send it to me. i dont mind. |
| 16:44.18 | thebolt | hands out some hugs.. he is full of it these days |
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| 16:44.25 | Ivanovic | this will produce a diff between the files and you already have the diff |
| 16:44.38 | BarryCarlyon | I was quite impressed I hadnt spent it all. |
| 16:44.39 | davr | generally you should be using the diff built into whatever source code control system they use |
| 16:44.47 | kumarabhi | i dont know! i wanted to apply for an org say anjuta , but they say that before u apply u need to submit a patch for anjuta. what does it mean and how do i do it? |
| 16:44.52 | kumarabhi | please reply |
| 16:45.01 | kitallis | lol |
| 16:45.25 | brlcad | "diff -u" is generally preferred if you're sending it to someone else |
| 16:45.41 | davr | kumarabhi: 1. download latest anjuta source code 2. find a bug that needs fixign 3. fix the bug 4. use the 'diff' function in either cvs/svn/git/etc (not sure what anjuta uses) 5. send the diff to the proper place |
| 16:45.43 | lh | kumarabhi: okay first of all, we have not yet announced which organizations have been accepted. when they have been announced, some will ask you to submit a patch, which is code to fix something that is broken or to add new functionality |
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| 16:45.47 | brlcad | (which is "svn diff" default format if you're using that) |
| 16:45.52 | lynxlynxlynx | kumarabhi: mail them some nicotine patches |
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| 16:47.00 | BarryCarlyon | makes green tea for lh |
| 16:47.00 | kumarabhi | ok lh, thanx davr |
| 16:47.00 | lh | kumarabhi: yw |
| 16:47.01 | lh | BarryCarlyon: thank you |
| 16:47.01 | lh | you ought to make some for everyone too please |
| 16:47.10 | BarryCarlyon | Indeed! |
| 16:47.18 | BarryCarlyon | Anyone else for some green or ordinary tea? |
| 16:47.25 | BarryCarlyon | puts the kettle on |
| 16:47.26 | lifeeth | needs |
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| 16:47.31 | brlcad | lh: good morning lovely hawthorn! |
| 16:47.41 | ajuonline | yAy! |
| 16:47.43 | Dragonking | Ivanovic: I can't really see any foirmula AI in this scanario save |
| 16:47.43 | ajuonline | !lh |
| 16:47.43 | socinfo | "lh" is (#1) Lighthearted Hippy, or (#2) Lady Hawthorn, or (#3) a zen experience to be hugged by!, or (#4) LOVE!, or (#5) lovingly happy, or (#6) free as in freedom!, or (#7) Loathes Harkonnen, or (#8) magic, or (#9) pillar of patience, or (#10) the most awesome woman to ever walk the earth, or (#11) superwoman with superhuman powers |
| 16:47.50 | Dragonking | ARGH wrong chan |
| 16:48.28 | lh | good lord. |
| 16:48.39 | lh | that freaks me out every time i see it. |
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| 16:48.49 | easwar | lol,who made socinfo learn THAT? |
| 16:48.52 | Ivanovic | Dragonking: wrong chan |
| 16:48.53 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 16:48.53 | lh | although i agree with #1, and #2 is nice if a bit of stretch |
| 16:49.02 | lh | easwar: i suspect mlankhorst |
| 16:49.29 | easwar | heh |
| 16:49.37 | durin42 | lh: if/when you need a bot to tell people to read the faq, let me know |
| 16:49.38 | easwar | quite an imagination |
| 16:49.41 | Catfish_Man | hi everyone |
| 16:49.47 | lh | durin42: go for it please |
| 16:49.50 | lh | !userguide |
| 16:49.50 | socinfo | "userguide" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/userguide |
| 16:49.52 | easwar | hi Catfish_Man |
| 16:49.54 | lh | perfecto. |
| 16:49.57 | Catfish_Man | hey easwar |
| 16:50.10 | durin42 | lh: have them read that? should I dump the username list and just start over? |
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| 16:50.27 | dberkholz | write an ai bot that will do question analysis of new people and respond to what it thinks people want? |
| 16:50.33 | lh | durin42: i dont follow, sorry |
| 16:50.45 | Catfish_Man | dberkholz: that's easy |
| 16:50.50 | Catfish_Man | everyone wants a nice cuppa tea |
| 16:50.53 | durin42 | lh: I've still got (or should) the database from last year, should I dump it since things have changed so much? |
| 16:51.05 | durin42 | lh: also, should I have them go to the userguide as well as the faq? |
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| 16:51.48 | lh | durin42: er, people have added new stuff. probably worth just reteaching commands |
| 16:51.58 | lh | durin42: userguide for web app questions, faq for all else |
| 16:52.21 | durin42 | lh: I'm talking about the bot that /msged people on their first join is all |
| 16:52.21 | dberkholz | & the split timeline for timeline |
| 16:52.23 | scorche | durin42: ah...the bot that you had last year that messaged people if it was their first time joining? |
| 16:52.32 | durin42 | scorche: yes |
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| 16:52.58 | easwar | didn't have any message(IIRC) the 1st time he logged in to #gsoc |
| 16:52.59 | kumarabhi | hey davr, what is meant by cvs/svn/git/etc ? |
| 16:53.03 | lh | durin42: oh that. yes please to update. |
| 16:53.21 | durin42 | easwar: it hasn't been running for a while |
| 16:53.29 | easwar | durin42, oh |
| 16:53.29 | durin42 | I shut him down once the question volume went down |
| 16:53.29 | kblin | lh: I'm off to prepare some food, but I'll be back for the rush |
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| 16:53.36 | durin42 | but we're probably going to get a question rush soon |
| 16:53.40 | lh | kblin: awesome thank you |
| 16:53.45 | Catfish_Man | kumarabhi: I suggest googling those terms (or the more general term "version control"). They're pretty important |
| 16:53.52 | BarryCarlyon | BLarg! |
| 16:53.54 | kumarabhi | ok |
| 16:53.56 | davr | kumarabhi: if you don't know what any of those are, you've got a lot of work ahead of you. i'd suggest starting reading up on what SVN is |
| 16:54.02 | easwar | lh, any use for people as emotional support? |
| 16:54.11 | kumarabhi | ok |
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| 16:54.11 | durin42 | !faq |
| 16:54.12 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 16:54.12 | BarryCarlyon | git ftw |
| 16:54.14 | lh | easwar: yes. lots actually. |
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| 16:54.23 | durin42 | !userguide |
| 16:54.23 | socinfo | "userguide" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/userguide |
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| 16:54.40 | easwar | lh, even those who don't know anything about what the whole screaming is about? |
| 16:54.41 | easwar | :P |
| 16:54.43 | ajuonline | Catfish_Man: i can haz cookies? |
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| 16:54.58 | scorche | thinks people overreact |
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| 16:55.14 | lh | 1) don't take not getting into gsoc personally. 2) there is infrastructure in place to run your own gsoc like program, so if you really want to mentor students and bring new folks in, just go do it. google summer of code is awesome but it is not the be all end all of existence. |
| 16:55.17 | Catfish_Man | ajuonline: of course |
| 16:55.30 | lh | 3) t-shirts are almost as good for motivating as money. things will likely just get done more slowly. |
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| 16:55.48 | lh | 4) mentoring is really hard work. |
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| 16:56.14 | scorche | !learn dontcry as don't take not getting into gsoc personally. |
| 16:56.15 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 16:56.20 | scorche | !learn dontcry as there is infrastructure in place to run your own gsoc like program, so if you really want to mentor students and bring new folks in, just go do it. google summer of code is awesome but it is not the be all end all of existence. |
| 16:56.20 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 16:56.36 | scorche | !learn dontcry as mentoring is really hard work. |
| 16:56.36 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 16:56.39 | scorche | =) |
| 16:56.48 | scorche | hides |
| 16:56.54 | lh | 5) no matter what it was worth a try to apply for the program, and that goes for mentors and students. the worst that can happen is you won't be accepted into gsoc. |
| 16:56.57 | lh | !dontcry |
| 16:56.57 | socinfo | "dontcry" is (#1) don't take not getting into gsoc personally., or (#2) there is infrastructure in place to run your own gsoc like program, so if you really want to mentor students and bring new folks in, just go do it. google summer of code is awesome but it is not the be all end all of existence., or (#3) mentoring is really hard work. |
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| 16:57.17 | durin42 | waves at durinbot |
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| 16:58.15 | BarryCarlyon | Add the cake is a lie to !dontcry |
| 16:58.23 | easwar | cake? |
| 16:58.27 | kblin | !cake |
| 16:58.27 | socinfo | Error: "cake" is not a valid command. |
| 16:58.29 | easwar | Cake! |
| 16:58.30 | kblin | whoa |
| 16:58.35 | lh | we lost the cake?!?!?!? |
| 16:58.36 | BarryCarlyon | THE CAKE IS A LIE! |
| 16:58.50 | scorche | !learn dontcry as Here. Have a cookie. We still love you. |
| 16:58.50 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 16:58.51 | MatthewWilkes | Did I send you guys the cheese wedding cake link? (Not cheesecake) |
| 16:58.59 | kblin | !learn cake as Cake used to be a lie, until lh got us some. |
| 16:58.59 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 16:59.03 | Catfish_Man | !tea |
| 16:59.03 | socinfo | "tea" is (#1) always a valid option, or (#2) It's always tea time, have a cup on the house! |
| 16:59.07 | davr | cake? http://notalwaysright.com/deceptive-desserts/1675 |
| 16:59.14 | lh | omg. i love tea! |
| 16:59.29 | easwar | is getting used to getting cake after successful events |
| 16:59.31 | MatthewWilkes | http://www.thecheeseshed.com/pendeen-168-p.asp <-- cheese is a better cake than cake |
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| 16:59.39 | scorche | lh: next time i head up there, i should bring up some of my rooibos stuffs =P |
| 17:01.04 | lh | scorche: yes! |
| 17:01.12 | anothy_x | lh: "that freaks me out every time i see it." - yeah, operator overloading's alwyas scary. :-) |
| 17:01.39 | lh | anothy_x: that's not why it freaks me out. |
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| 17:02.23 | anothy_x | oh, i gathered. that was just my first though reading the list. |
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| 17:02.47 | easwar | !dontcry |
| 17:02.48 | socinfo | "dontcry" is (#1) don't take not getting into gsoc personally., or (#2) there is infrastructure in place to run your own gsoc like program, so if you really want to mentor students and bring new folks in, just go do it. google summer of code is awesome but it is not the be all end all of existence., or (#3) mentoring is really hard work., or (#4) Here. Have a cookie. We still love you. |
| 17:03.10 | lh | have three cookies. |
| 17:03.10 | homunq | !learn lh as living human |
| 17:03.11 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 17:03.13 | easwar | likes that,I'll specialise in that |
| 17:03.28 | easwar | lh, cookies?for me? |
| 17:03.29 | durin42 | durinbot will now ask that people read the faq and userguide if he's not seen them before. |
| 17:03.47 | durin42 | The userlist carries over from last year, so if you already were here last year you won't get annoyed again. |
| 17:03.52 | lh | durin42: thanks! |
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| 17:04.06 | durin42 | lh: I can have him whisper you once if you want to see what he's saying |
| 17:04.27 | durin42 | (or I can just paste the relevant code somewhere) |
| 17:04.35 | lh | durin42: that'd be lovely |
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| 17:05.15 | durin42 | lh: next time you join the channel, he'll bug you |
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| 17:05.39 | durinbot | All hail lh! |
| 17:05.48 | easwar | heil |
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| 17:05.57 | lh | please tell me it hails everyone. |
| 17:05.58 | scorche | durinbot fail |
| 17:05.58 | durin42 | Ha, I forgot about that feature. |
| 17:06.09 | durin42 | lh: just you I think. |
| 17:06.12 | lh | and lgtm durin42 thank you |
| 17:06.18 | lh | durin42: please turn that off. |
| 17:06.21 | durin42 | lh: can do |
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| 17:07.26 | durin42 | lh: fixed |
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| 17:07.56 | MatthewWilkes | oooh, plone.org redesign is looking better by the day |
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| 17:08.26 | MatthewWilkes | A few hours off launch, apparently :) |
| 17:08.35 | durin42 | Currently we've seen 5687 nicks. Be interesting to see how much that goes up the next couple weeks. |
| 17:08.37 | lifeeth | ramnikarora_, :) |
| 17:08.40 | Landon | woot |
| 17:08.44 | ramnikarora_ | :) |
| 17:08.45 | Landon | itsnice and..."beautiful"outside |
| 17:08.50 | Landon | a little chilly :( |
| 17:08.57 | davr | changes his nick repeatedly from davr0001 to davr9999 in order to inflate your stats |
| 17:09.34 | ajuonline | around 2 hours left? right? |
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| 17:09.47 | Landon | davr: won't fool my stats :) |
| 17:10.02 | PulpFictionPunja | 1 hour 51 seconds :D |
| 17:10.04 | Landon | wonders how hard it'd be to django-ize pisg |
| 17:10.05 | gobbo | lifeeth, :) |
| 17:10.05 | Landon | :P |
| 17:10.17 | Landon | www.lfowles.org/irc/gsoc/ or something silly like that |
| 17:10.18 | PulpFictionPunja | *51 mnutes |
| 17:10.22 | lifeeth | gobbo, |
| 17:10.35 | gobbo | lifeeth, yeah...aoe nick :P |
| 17:10.58 | ajuonline | Landon: is that still up? |
| 17:11.03 | sid0 | hi gobbo |
| 17:11.04 | Landon | ajuonline: of course :P |
| 17:11.06 | ajuonline | loggin i mean? |
| 17:11.10 | Landon | yeah |
| 17:11.10 | sid0 | you'll be there tomorrow, I hope? |
| 17:11.15 | Landon | it's hooked into my client logs |
| 17:11.22 | lifeeth | gobbo, Ah! |
| 17:11.24 | gobbo | hola sid0 |
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| 17:12.01 | sumitk | waves at all |
| 17:12.06 | durin42 | Landon: durinbot is a bot, can we teach your stats? |
| 17:12.06 | easwar | well that's a prime target for durinbot |
| 17:12.25 | Landon | durin42: go for it, they used to be in socbot or socinfo or one of those |
| 17:12.29 | gobbo | sid0, Why did you postpone the gsoc presentation? |
| 17:12.39 | sid0 | gobbo: took too long for the mail to go out |
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| 17:12.54 | sid0 | :) |
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| 17:12.56 | gobbo | :( |
| 17:13.11 | sid0 | gobbo: does that change anything? |
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| 17:13.21 | Landon | oh dangit |
| 17:13.27 | Landon | I forgot the geeks 2nd worst enemy after the sun |
| 17:13.29 | Landon | bugs! |
| 17:13.41 | gobbo | sid0, No nothing really... rather its better since the ideas would be out by then. |
| 17:13.51 | isforinsects | bears! |
| 17:13.52 | sid0 | gobbo: ah yeah, nirbheek was saying the same |
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| 17:14.08 | ajuonline | Landon: that still shows my name :P /me likes lol |
| 17:14.23 | Landon | :P |
| 17:14.44 | sumitk | ajuonline: hey buddy .. how you doing ? |
| 17:16.00 | ajuonline | sumitk: very well. thank you. you? |
| 17:16.12 | MatthewWilkes | Alle eendjes zwemmen in het water, fal der ral de ral do |
| 17:16.16 | sumitk | ajuonline: good .. :) so what's up ? |
| 17:16.40 | gobbo | lifeeth: did you apply last time around? |
| 17:17.27 | sumitk | waves at MatthewWilkes :) |
| 17:17.34 | lh | durin42: thank you |
| 17:17.59 | gobbo | sid0: Can we send another mail saying that the project ideas are out (when they are) and junta is requested (read: advised) to look at them before showing up? |
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| 17:18.24 | lh | gobbo: i don't understand what you are asking for |
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| 17:18.39 | lifeeth | gobbo, noe |
| 17:18.41 | lifeeth | *nope |
| 17:18.55 | sumitk | waves at lh with big smile :) |
| 17:18.57 | homunq | think gobbo is talking about a specific project |
| 17:18.58 | lifeeth | lh, That was internal talk :) |
| 17:19.09 | sid0 | lh: nothing much, we're organizing a small talk on gsoc in college :) |
| 17:19.15 | gobbo | lh: Yes. |
| 17:19.16 | lh | sumitk: greets |
| 17:19.26 | lh | sid0: rock on. send me details so i can add to the program calendar. |
| 17:19.54 | danderson | woohoo, irc over ssh over 3g on android |
| 17:20.01 | danderson | love it |
| 17:20.03 | Landon | woot |
| 17:20.07 | Landon | how much are G1s these days? |
| 17:20.16 | Landon | my razrs contract is coming up |
| 17:20.17 | Landon | :) |
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| 17:20.23 | danderson | Landon: no idea for the locked version |
| 17:20.42 | danderson | sim/firmware unlocked dev phone is $400 |
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| 17:21.08 | sid0 | lh: 19th March, 1330 UTC |
| 17:21.34 | lh | sid0: email please. it's a bit busy in here now right? |
| 17:21.37 | sid0 | lh: sure |
| 17:21.48 | sid0 | sorry, didn't realize that |
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| 17:24.33 | gobbo | sid0: have you talked to bheek? Is he comfortable with the time? He doesn't stay on campus so it maybe inconvenient for him. |
| 17:24.46 | sid0 | gobbo: he's said "maybe" |
| 17:24.57 | gobbo | sid0: aye. |
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| 17:26.42 | isforinsects | Landon: I got the android dev machine |
| 17:26.46 | isforinsects | I am pretty happy with it |
| 17:26.58 | Landon | yeah, looked on t-mobiles website |
| 17:27.00 | isforinsects | I haven't tinkered with the firmware quite enough yet. But I'll get around to it. |
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| 17:27.05 | Landon | $180 after "instant coupon" |
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| 17:27.09 | Landon | which takes it down from $400 :P |
| 17:27.49 | homunq | does it do 802.1x? |
| 17:27.53 | homunq | yet? |
| 17:28.19 | MatthewWilkes | hi sumitk! |
| 17:28.40 | sumitk | MatthewWilkes: good to see u again here .. how are you ? |
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| 17:30.15 | homunq | hopefully continues to update our ideas list |
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| 17:30.42 | isforinsects | Landon: say what? |
| 17:30.54 | isforinsects | Landon: ... I guess I missed out on $180 :( |
| 17:31.13 | ecin | isforinsects: It's at $98 at amazon. With contract, though. |
| 17:31.18 | isforinsects | Eh, waiting was not an option |
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| 17:31.26 | isforinsects | no, contract wasn't acceptable |
| 17:31.35 | isforinsects | Nor was waiting |
| 17:31.56 | isforinsects | given that getting a new phone was a prerequiste to SO continuing to date me :-| |
| 17:33.18 | ScottMac | so you bought a leash? |
| 17:33.18 | ecin | Whoa, look at that Sun stock grow. |
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| 17:35.45 | brlcad | is happy, owns sun stock |
| 17:36.10 | scorche|sh | thinks that he needs to start venturing out into the world of stocks |
| 17:36.18 | Lennie | G1's awesome :D |
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| 17:36.45 | Lennie | It's just not as main stream as an iPhone (luckily :D) |
| 17:36.53 | gobbo | musically_ut: hola |
| 17:37.15 | musically_ut | gobbo, Hello. |
| 17:37.34 | lh | *ahem* |
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| 17:37.43 | scorche|sh | Lennie: gimme |
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| 17:37.45 | lh | folks, please give a big big big round of applause to the melange developer team |
| 17:37.53 | Landon | yay melange dev team! |
| 17:37.56 | arunreddy | yoyooyyo |
| 17:38.01 | homunq | yyaayy |
| 17:38.01 | Catfish_Man | woot :D |
| 17:38.02 | lh | for the first time *ever* in summer of code, we are announcing accepted organizations *early* |
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| 17:38.07 | Landon | :O |
| 17:38.07 | lh | now what happens next |
| 17:38.09 | sid0 | w00t |
| 17:38.09 | scorche|sh | gasps |
| 17:38.10 | arunreddy | :P |
| 17:38.11 | sid0 | claps! |
| 17:38.12 | gobbo | Yay!! |
| 17:38.14 | MatthewWilkes | sumitk: Good thanks, scared now ;) |
| 17:38.14 | allman | Hear Hear!!!!! |
| 17:38.20 | MatthewWilkes | sumitk: Yourself? |
| 17:38.22 | mdc | Stands and claps for the Melange Dev Team! |
| 17:38.23 | musically_ut | claps soberly for Melange |
| 17:38.27 | arunreddy | thats great |
| 17:38.41 | isforinsects | applauds |
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| 17:38.47 | homunq | !swear |
| 17:38.48 | socinfo | "swear" is you can swear and vent in ##gsoc. |
| 17:38.54 | arunreddy | !next |
| 17:38.54 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 17:38.56 | brlcad | applaudes |
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| 17:39.17 | sumitk | MatthewWilkes: I am good thank you ... not scared now :D |
| 17:39.27 | scorche|sh | !forget swear |
| 17:39.28 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 17:39.30 | homunq | linklinklinklink??????????????? |
| 17:39.34 | scorche|sh | lets not advertise that channel >_> |
| 17:39.45 | Landon | hehehe |
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| 17:40.22 | brlcad | hugs |
| 17:40.24 | homunq | props to melange devs, for reals |
| 17:40.52 | lh | solydzajs: welcome. please take a bow and distribute props to the rest of the dev team. this is your guys' moment. |
| 17:40.56 | solydzajs | homunq: for ?;-) |
| 17:41.02 | MatthewWilkes | applauds Pawel, Sverre, Lennie, Todd, James, Dmitri, Tim, Leslie and all the people who've worked on Melange who I can't think of off the top of my head - you guys rock |
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| 17:41.07 | homunq | "Overview of Organization Applications whose status is "needs review" ........" |
| 17:41.23 | ajuonline | lh: early??? really?? what about the "gsoc tradition"!!! |
| 17:41.36 | lh | ajuonline: i <3 tradition, but optimization is better |
| 17:41.44 | ajuonline | ummm ok fair enough :) |
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| 17:41.58 | ajuonline | Lennie: dude, #melange rocks ;) |
| 17:42.08 | disismt | #melange |
| 17:42.31 | mdc | notes that the status updates have begun :) |
| 17:42.37 | mdc | Very cool :) |
| 17:42.37 | ajuonline | now freenode really needs to up the channel limit! |
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| 17:43.00 | kblin | lh: I'm back |
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| 17:43.11 | homunq | !whatdoesthismean |
| 17:43.12 | socinfo | Error: "whatdoesthismean" is not a valid command. |
| 17:43.12 | lh | kblin: welcome to the first early organzation announcement in the history of gsoc |
| 17:43.37 | homunq | should we be getting fat envelope/thin envelope emails? |
| 17:43.44 | anothy_x | heh |
| 17:43.47 | homunq | or is the thin envelope "no email" |
| 17:43.48 | homunq | ? |
| 17:43.58 | Catfish_Man | the thin envelope is a cookie |
| 17:44.09 | ajuonline | what about the brownie points? |
| 17:44.13 | Catfish_Man | same as the thick envelope actually |
| 17:44.18 | Catfish_Man | hands out snickerdoodles to everyone |
| 17:44.22 | mdc | The "Notifications" tab is very cool :) |
| 17:44.40 | Lennie | mdc, thanks was my brainfart :P |
| 17:44.45 | VDVsx | how many org's this year ? |
| 17:44.51 | *** mode/#gsoc [+m] by lh |
| 17:44.55 | lh | okay folks listen up |
| 17:45.06 | lh | 1) we accepted 150 orgs this year |
| 17:45.09 | lh | this means 2 things |
| 17:45.12 | lh | a lot of you did not get accepted |
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| 17:45.23 | kblin | lh: woah |
| 17:45.31 | lh | and a decent number of folks who have been with us over time have not been accepted again. |
| 17:45.35 | lh | this was very hard for us. |
| 17:45.39 | *** join/#gsoc bdilly (n=bdilly@201.82.168.98) |
| 17:45.42 | lh | our decisions are in no way personal. |
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| 17:46.10 | lh | this was without a doubt the best set of applications i have ever seen for the program, hands down. |
| 17:46.52 | lh | if you get a congratulations email, please follow the instructions provided in it immediately. we want to get information in the hands of student applicants ASAP so they can get excited about their projects. |
| 17:47.08 | lh | if you receive a with regret email, i am open to and welcome discussion about what was missing from your application. |
| 17:47.19 | lh | the truth is many of you are going to hear "i am sorry, we could not accept everyone." |
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| 17:47.36 | lh | that is not satisying, and i realize that. it's also reality. once again, this is not personal. |
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| 17:48.30 | lh | i want to thank everyone who applied for taking the time to let us know more about you and your projects. i am constantly amazed by how much amazing work is done by the FOSS community. |
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| 17:49.02 | lh | and for those of you who are still interested in mentoring students but didn't get accepted to gsoc, i have some ideas that we can talk about later this week or next week when things settle down. but not right at the moment. |
| 17:49.06 | lh | okay, that's it. |
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| 17:49.38 | lut4rp | w00t! |
| 17:49.38 | lynxlynxlynx | thanks lh |
| 17:49.41 | Lennie | thanks for the speech :) |
| 17:49.43 | PulpFiction | wow. |
| 17:49.46 | GA_MATT | Hello all |
| 17:49.47 | russellb | lh: Thanks a lot for your (and the rest of the Google Open Source office) hard work! I know that was quite a lot to review in less than a week. |
| 17:49.47 | lut4rp | awesome. |
| 17:49.49 | scorche|sh | and for those that didnt get accepted: |
| 17:49.50 | ankush_ | waiting.. |
| 17:49.51 | scorche|sh | !dontcry |
| 17:49.52 | socinfo | "dontcry" is (#1) don't take not getting into gsoc personally., or (#2) there is infrastructure in place to run your own gsoc like program, so if you really want to mentor students and bring new folks in, just go do it. google summer of code is awesome but it is not the be all end all of existence., or (#3) mentoring is really hard work., or (#4) Here. Have a cookie. We still love you. |
| 17:49.56 | Landon | heh |
| 17:49.56 | Catfish_Man | lh: btw, you'll be amused to hear that #gsoc helped me find and fix a performance problem in adium's groupchat support by having so many occupants ;) |
| 17:50.07 | arunreddy | thanks lh |
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| 17:50.15 | Goundy | Hi guys |
| 17:50.15 | lynxlynxlynx | this channel should be moderated more often :P |
| 17:50.17 | sid0 | Catfish_Man++ |
| 17:50.18 | ankush_ | thanks lh |
| 17:50.22 | lh | Catfish_Man: that is freakin awesome. |
| 17:50.23 | kitallis | wow |
| 17:50.23 | scorche|sh | lynxlynxlynx: not really.. |
| 17:50.29 | Goundy | at what time is the list going to be published please ? |
| 17:50.30 | spearce | Catfish_Man: gsoc is awesome in so many ways. :-) |
| 17:50.32 | lh | lynxlynxlynx: oh probably, but whatever. let the people talk |
| 17:50.33 | MatthewWilkes | Catfish_Man: hehe |
| 17:50.35 | codestr0m | very grumpily parts |
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| 17:50.40 | lh | Goundy: in a bit, the web app still chugs |
| 17:50.44 | anothy_x | awesome. good work to everyone, all around. |
| 17:50.45 | lh | sigh. |
| 17:50.51 | lh | and there we go. |
| 17:50.52 | arunreddy | link to results. |
| 17:50.52 | Goundy | lh cool thank you miss :-) |
| 17:50.56 | Raim | woohoo! |
| 17:50.57 | Catfish_Man | turns out O(N^2 * N) actually matters with N = size of #gsoc |
| 17:50.58 | lh | Goundy: np. |
| 17:51.12 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Won't be the last time tonight, I'm afraid. *hugs* |
| 17:51.17 | Ori_B | Catfish_Man: erm, isn't that O(N^3)? |
| 17:51.18 | Catfish_Man | er, N^2 * logN that is |
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| 17:51.34 | lh | MatthewWilkes: i know it won't be. but it never gets easier. |
| 17:51.35 | sid0 | Catfish_Man: and what did you get it down to? |
| 17:51.39 | sid0 | N log N? |
| 17:51.41 | Ori_B | convolves N^2 with N |
| 17:51.42 | MatthewWilkes | (c'mon mail.app, get mails faster) |
| 17:51.42 | Catfish_Man | sid0: yeah |
| 17:51.45 | Ori_B | :P |
| 17:51.46 | sid0 | nice |
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| 17:51.55 | Catfish_Man | sid0: we resorted the occupant list once per occupant was the issue |
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| 17:52.01 | sid0 | oh, ah |
| 17:52.04 | Catfish_Man | now we only do it once :) |
| 17:52.04 | lh | grabs a coffee will brb |
| 17:52.04 | durin42 | gives lh soothing green tea |
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| 17:52.09 | sid0 | yep, that's N^2 log N |
| 17:52.12 | durin42 | Catfish_Man: once per occupant? sheesh. |
| 17:52.18 | lh | durin42: thank you but i need a coffee. :) will drink green tea too. |
| 17:52.35 | Catfish_Man | durin42: also posted 'occupants changed' notifications once per occupant on join |
| 17:52.40 | durin42 | mumbles about coffee smelling so much better than it tastes. |
| 17:52.44 | easwar | pours out a strong cappuccino for lh |
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| 17:53.10 | wsfulton-2 | cool, looks like swig is accepted, thanks very much :) |
| 17:53.11 | Ori_B | durin42: good coffee tastes great too. |
| 17:53.14 | IwikiwI | sugarlabs got accepted! hurrayyyyy! |
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| 17:53.25 | atulagrwl | !next |
| 17:53.26 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 17:53.28 | ArthurLiu | braces for the twitterstorm |
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| 17:53.38 | MatthewWilkes | Awesome! |
| 17:53.40 | easwar | wants the URL |
| 17:53.42 | MatthewWilkes | Plone Foundation is in |
| 17:53.47 | Lennie | gratz MatthewWilkes :) |
| 17:53.48 | MatthewWilkes | People waiting to find out, log into the webapp |
| 17:53.52 | arunreddy | link ..? |
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| 17:53.59 | MatthewWilkes | I've not got the email yet, but do have a big red notification |
| 17:54.07 | disismt | spectie: apertium accepted? |
| 17:54.11 | anothy_x | MatthewWilkes: same. |
| 17:54.12 | ankush_ | link: http://socghop.appspot.com/http://socghop.appspot.com/ |
| 17:54.16 | neo7 | So GSoC now having an IRC bot |
| 17:54.25 | MatthewWilkes | thanks Lennie |
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| 17:54.39 | neo7 | they could have created it in a better manner |
| 17:54.42 | neo7 | :) |
| 17:54.51 | neo7 | durinbot: hi |
| 17:55.02 | isforinsects | IwikiwI: yay! |
| 17:55.03 | isforinsects | :) |
| 17:55.14 | russellb | Asterisk.org is in :-) |
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| 17:55.23 | ArthurLiu | is a backup admin, and as a second-class citizen, won't be notified by mail or melange :/ |
| 17:55.26 | dberkholz | yay gentoo! |
| 17:55.29 | PulpFiction | i still cant see it. how are you guys able to see the list? |
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| 17:55.36 | bonsaikitten | dberkholz: excellent :) |
| 17:55.37 | Catfish_Man | PulpFiction: they're getting emails |
| 17:55.37 | sandrejev | is there a list of all organizations :) |
| 17:55.42 | sandrejev | wana see it |
| 17:55.43 | dberkholz | PulpFiction: log into the webapp |
| 17:55.46 | bonsaikitten | expects great things to happen |
| 17:55.50 | eakwarren-afk | no list, just looking at List My Organization Application page status |
| 17:55.53 | easwar | dberkholz, how? |
| 17:55.57 | easwar | we are students |
| 17:56.00 | lynxlynxlynx | dberkholz: your prediction on the number of accepted orgs was spot on |
| 17:56.03 | PulpFiction | aah cool. we have to wait then. |
| 17:56.22 | dberkholz | easwar: i don't know the answer to that. =) |
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| 17:56.43 | ajaksu | sandrejev: yep, but it's almost empty... only dragonflybsd listed there, so we better wait before hammering it :) |
| 17:56.53 | dberkholz | lynxlynxlynx: my crystal ball was well-polished this year, it seems |
| 17:56.54 | lh | ok all mails sent |
| 17:56.59 | ajuonline | so are the results out? i mean visible? |
| 17:57.00 | PulpFiction | neone bout GNOME status? |
| 17:57.14 | sandrejev | can't wait :) |
| 17:57.17 | Lennie | k cool |
| 17:57.17 | lh | results are not yet visible |
| 17:57.20 | Lennie | no errors Melange side :D |
| 17:57.26 | lh | can y'all hold off on tweeting for a bit? |
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| 17:57.33 | dberkholz | lh: an hour early, even! nice work |
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| 17:57.35 | amit8-88 | melange rocks :) |
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| 17:57.37 | lh | i'd rather folks didn't try to hit the site when no info is available to them |
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| 17:57.41 | Lennie|Food | f00d time :D |
| 17:57.44 | lh | dberkholz: thank the melange team |
| 17:57.49 | lh | like Lennie|Food |
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| 17:57.53 | lh | and solydzajs |
| 17:57.55 | lh | and SRabbelier |
| 17:57.57 | dberkholz | thanks to whatever melange folks are here! |
| 17:57.59 | lh | and danderson |
| 17:58.04 | lh | and durin42 |
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| 17:58.30 | solydzajs | :-) |
| 17:58.32 | lh | so once again |
| 17:58.34 | manus_eiffel | are you going to perform a session for rejected application like last year? I'm unfortunately on that list and like to know more why? |
| 17:58.37 | solydzajs | I'm here :-) |
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| 17:58.47 | dberkholz | i guess i'll just put my own street address |
| 17:58.53 | lh | admins for accepted orgs, get on updating your organization profile and organizaiton home pages stat. like right now please. |
| 17:58.58 | lh | manus_eiffel: yes but in a bit. |
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| 17:59.14 | sharpdevelop | lh: Big thanks to you and all the people that have done so much work in the past days.... it is very appreciated. |
| 17:59.15 | Raim | dberkholz: it's not marked as required and I am wondering what it will be used for |
| 17:59.16 | MatthewWilkes | Hi Matthew Wilkes, You have been invited by Matthew Wilkes to become a Organization Admin for Plone Foundation. Please click here to fill in the necessary information and accept the invitation. Greetings, Matthew Wilkes |
| 17:59.20 | MatthewWilkes | I'm so formal with myself ;) |
| 17:59.47 | disismt | spectie: Apertium status ... ? |
| 17:59.48 | lh | sharpdevelop: thanks, i will pass along your thanks to the team here. |
| 17:59.52 | sandrejev | sharpdevelop: is #develop accepted? |
| 17:59.53 | lh | disismt: you're in |
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| 17:59.57 | lh | sandrejev: yes |
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| 18:00.14 | sharpdevelop | yes |
| 18:00.15 | ajuonline | is the list up somewhere? |
| 18:00.18 | scorche|sh | no |
| 18:00.24 | solydzajs | ajaksu: not yet |
| 18:00.25 | Raim | dberkholz: oh, the other address above is required... too excited ;) |
| 18:00.27 | lh | ajuonline: in a bit, sheesh. |
| 18:00.28 | ajuonline | our admin is at work |
| 18:00.35 | easwar | Is GNOME in? |
| 18:00.37 | ArthurLiu | mine too :/ |
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| 18:00.49 | kblin | hai, lh-san |
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| 18:01.35 | solydzajs | We are giving org admins opportunity to create their organization profile before the list is announced. |
| 18:01.43 | lh | I am only going to say this one more time. The list of accepted orgs will be published in about 1 hr. We emailed all of you early to give accepted organizations time to update their profiles and organization home pages so that when folks come to the site there is actually data for them to look at as opposed to a big old list of orgs with no actual data. |
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| 18:01.51 | lh | said much more succinctly by solydzajs |
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| 18:02.05 | *** mode/#gsoc [-m] by lh |
| 18:02.11 | disismt | hello |
| 18:02.19 | easwar | lh,Is GNOME in? |
| 18:02.21 | borja | "woo woo Globus Alliance accepted! |
| 18:02.22 | lh | easwar: yes |
| 18:02.23 | kv | hello |
| 18:02.26 | JLP | is waiting for mithro to get up |
| 18:02.30 | easwar | thank you |
| 18:02.33 | lh | anyone else want to know if they were accepted or not? |
| 18:02.35 | lh | easwar: yw |
| 18:02.36 | easwar | walks to bed |
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| 18:02.39 | PulpFiction | thank you, lh. |
| 18:02.40 | ajuonline | lh: is Sahana in? |
| 18:02.43 | lh | ajuonline: yes |
| 18:02.44 | easwar | shall check tomorrow |
| 18:02.48 | gchaix | lh: OSUOSL? |
| 18:02.50 | easwar | gratz ajuonline |
| 18:02.53 | lh | gchaix: yes |
| 18:02.58 | PulpFiction | Novell? |
| 18:03.00 | gchaix | is having mail problems lately. YAY! Thanks! :-) |
| 18:03.09 | lh | PulpFiction: novell did not apply afaik |
| 18:03.13 | apopelo | lh: maemo? |
| 18:03.14 | lynxlynxlynx | heh |
| 18:03.14 | lh | gchaix: all good. :) |
| 18:03.17 | merlijn | lh: Internet2? :) |
| 18:03.17 | lh | apopelo: yes |
| 18:03.19 | ajuonline | hugs lh |
| 18:03.20 | easwar | PulpFiction, Novell?You want GNOME |
| 18:03.20 | ashish | lh: NUIGroup ? |
| 18:03.22 | lh | merlijn: no |
| 18:03.22 | gchaix | hugs lh |
| 18:03.23 | lh | ashish: yes |
| 18:03.26 | l0nwlf_ | lh : is open64 in ? |
| 18:03.27 | lh | hugs y'al |
| 18:03.27 | merlijn | :( |
| 18:03.28 | PulpFiction | i was checking for someone :D |
| 18:03.29 | lh | l0nwlf_: yes |
| 18:03.32 | chx | is not going to ask . He puts up the good example of not harassing LH. |
| 18:03.39 | lh | chx: yes drupal is in |
| 18:03.42 | Landon | :P |
| 18:03.43 | easwar | kick chx |
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| 18:03.44 | chx | YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY |
| 18:03.44 | ajuonline | lh: LimeSurvey? |
| 18:03.45 | scorche|sh | folks...unless you are a backup admin or one of the main mentors for an org, please stop asking if X is in...you will find out shortly |
| 18:03.48 | lh | ajuonline: no |
| 18:03.54 | lynxlynxlynx | waits patiently, so the admins don't overflow |
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| 18:03.58 | lh | agrees with scorche|sh |
| 18:04.04 | arunreddy | lh : OpenIntents ?? |
| 18:04.10 | lh | arunreddy: no |
| 18:04.13 | borja | lh: Is OpenNebula in? (I'm a 'main mentor' but not an admin) |
| 18:04.17 | lh | borja: no |
| 18:04.28 | easwar | anyways,good <insert time of day here> lh, and good night for me |
| 18:04.31 | borja | awww... oh well :-/ |
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| 18:04.40 | lh | easwar: thanks. |
| 18:04.42 | lh | borja: it happens. |
| 18:04.49 | borja | nods solemnly to lh |
| 18:05.00 | Raim | @melange: most fields show as "lower ASCII characters only" (Name, Street address, ...) but seems like this is not true (and would be strange) |
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| 18:05.14 | vimzard | durinbot --help |
| 18:05.17 | ArthurLiu | debian in ? |
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| 18:05.27 | lh | Raim: we have to provide shipping data in lower ascii text to our shipping dept. their system cannot handle UTF8 encoding. |
| 18:05.30 | lh | ArthurLiu: yes |
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| 18:06.00 | ArthurLiu | yay! |
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| 18:06.06 | ankush_ | lh: is openchange in ? |
| 18:06.09 | MatthewWilkes | Nice, got our Planet displaying on our SoC homepage |
| 18:06.13 | codestr0m | when is the best time to possibly ask about how we can improve our app for next year? |
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| 18:06.22 | lynxlynxlynx | codestr0m: in a week |
| 18:06.26 | codestr0m | re: OSUNIX collective it was three groups all in one |
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| 18:06.28 | lh | ankush_: yes |
| 18:06.28 | Raim | lh: this really means all lower case as in [a-z] only (no [A-Z])? |
| 18:06.36 | lh | codestr0m: probaby in a few hours |
| 18:06.38 | ajaksu | people, don't forget that many orgs can be represented in projects of umbrella orgs, so not getting an org in doesn't mean not getting projects for it ;) |
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| 18:06.43 | ankush_ | lh: thanks |
| 18:06.51 | lh | ankush_: np |
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| 18:07.32 | dberkholz | MatthewWilkes: how'd you do that? |
| 18:07.34 | VDVsx | lh, some of the infos can be updated later ? I just update the org description |
| 18:07.39 | easwar | forgot he promised lh emotional support in the euphoria of not losing his target org |
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| 18:07.42 | easwar | :P |
| 18:07.51 | lh | Raim: maybe that is not the best term. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII |
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| 18:08.02 | dberkholz | MatthewWilkes: do you mean the soc webapp homepage, or your own? |
| 18:08.17 | MatthewWilkes | dberkholz: I mean the org homepage on the webapp |
| 18:08.22 | ajuonline | !timeline |
| 18:08.22 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 18:08.23 | russellb | just got a 500 Server Error on profile update, and lost everything I put in :-( |
| 18:08.30 | dberkholz | looks for a way to pull in feeds |
| 18:08.31 | easwar | !next |
| 18:08.31 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 18:08.31 | lh | VDVsx: i would like you to update all of it asap, including org home page. people need to know where to find you. the link to your ideas page will be displayed on the site too, but people should be able to find out more details about your org asap too. |
| 18:08.46 | lh | russellb: take that to #melange |
| 18:08.46 | skbohra | lh: zikula is in or...? |
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| 18:08.53 | ivangarcia | lh, is babiloo accepted? |
| 18:09.04 | lh | ivangarcia: no |
| 18:09.05 | MatthewWilkes | guys, guys, the list will be announced in 1 hour |
| 18:09.07 | lh | skbohra: no |
| 18:09.14 | MatthewWilkes | Lets stop bugging lh |
| 18:09.22 | lh | applauds MatthewWilkes |
| 18:09.30 | skbohra | agrees |
| 18:09.36 | ankush_ | i support Matthew |
| 18:09.40 | MatthewWilkes | If you can get hold of the org admin, they can tell you, they're likely rushing to a computer at this very moment ;) |
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| 18:10.13 | VDVsx | lh, I meant street address an other no students info, the info for students is already set up :) |
| 18:10.14 | ajaksu | recommends saving your input before hitting save/submit/whatever: it never hurts :) |
| 18:10.18 | dberkholz | hmm. trying to remember the terminology. member meant mentor, as i recall, for purposes of homepage acl |
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| 18:11.05 | lh | VDVsx: put in bunk data for now that's fine |
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| 18:11.26 | MatthewWilkes | lh: You shouldn't have applauded that, I missed an apostrophe. |
| 18:11.33 | MatthewWilkes | hangs his head in shame. |
| 18:11.34 | homunq | lh: I'm assuming we can change slots-desired later? |
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| 18:11.45 | scorche|sh | homunq: yes |
| 18:12.22 | lh | homunq: yes |
| 18:12.26 | ivangarcia | lh: is there any reason why babiloo was not accepted? |
| 18:12.27 | lh | MatthewWilkes: it's fine. |
| 18:12.36 | lh | ivangarcia: we will be having those sorts of discussions later |
| 18:12.37 | kerihuel | MatthewWilkes: maybe not for Australian ppl ;-) |
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| 18:12.45 | lh | is updating org profile for google ospo |
| 18:12.47 | ivangarcia | lh: ok thks |
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| 18:13.00 | DarkUranium | hi |
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| 18:13.08 | sharpdevelop | lh: What is the organisation's address and shipping address needed for? |
| 18:13.14 | kblin | t-shirts |
| 18:13.21 | djc | dberkholz: yeah, that's right |
| 18:13.22 | homunq | !learn whynot as lh will respond to questions about why your org didn't get in later. |
| 18:13.23 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 18:13.27 | sharpdevelop | ok, thanks |
| 18:13.33 | djc | dberkholz: and contributor is the student |
| 18:13.35 | lh | sharpdevelop: and to drop a marker for you on our program map. you can put in your home address if need be. |
| 18:13.49 | sharpdevelop | thanks |
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| 18:14.19 | straszheim | Cheers to the google folks from Boost, looking forward to a good SoC |
| 18:14.27 | Mathiasdm | damnit, our admin is afk :( |
| 18:14.29 | punchagan | !whynot |
| 18:14.30 | socinfo | "whynot" is lh will respond to questions about why your org didn't get in later. |
| 18:14.34 | lh | straszheim: please to also thank melange developer team |
| 18:14.40 | homunq | program map... /me thinks that open source is global, we should have student markers but no program markers. |
| 18:14.44 | lh | Mathiasdm: who do you need to know about? |
| 18:14.47 | Mathiasdm | i2p |
| 18:14.51 | lh | homunq: er? |
| 18:14.55 | lh | Mathiasdm: no |
| 18:14.55 | straszheim | and thx to the melange team! |
| 18:14.57 | easwar | hugs lh,and all the melange team |
| 18:14.58 | Mathiasdm | okay |
| 18:15.01 | Mathiasdm | thanks anyway |
| 18:15.14 | lh | Mathiasdm: thanks for being polite about the response. |
| 18:15.26 | Mathiasdm | no problem :) I wasn't expecting it, but I was hopeful |
| 18:15.34 | homunq | thinks that a map of "where is sugarlabs? where is ubuntu? where is plome?" is next to useless. |
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| 18:15.56 | MatthewWilkes | homunq: Yeah, probably mostly delaware anyway |
| 18:15.58 | homunq | but "where are the students for project x" is cool. |
| 18:16.01 | shirish | hi can any one give me the URL for the student tips web page indicating language wise mentoring organizations |
| 18:16.02 | anothy_x | sorry, but ship address is for t-shirts and map pins, but what's the other for? |
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| 18:16.11 | scorche|sh | !advice |
| 18:16.11 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
| 18:16.17 | MatthewWilkes | Apparently Delaware law is a favourite of OSS foundations |
| 18:16.31 | scorche|sh | shirish: for the language wise orgs, you will have to wait a bit till it is updated |
| 18:16.37 | lh | homunq: yes it is useless. it's also not the only data point on the map. go look at code.google.com/soc/2008 for a sample |
| 18:16.49 | shirish | is there any previous years data |
| 18:16.51 | shirish | ?? |
| 18:16.52 | lh | MatthewWilkes: deleware is the best place in the usa to incorporate for tax reasons |
| 18:16.55 | lh | shirish: be more specific |
| 18:16.59 | alexu_a | lh: what should I put in for the phone # for our org? |
| 18:17.01 | alexu_a | my #? |
| 18:17.05 | scorche|sh | !orgbylang |
| 18:17.06 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is http://eflow.org/wiki/index.php?Mentors_by_language |
| 18:17.09 | alexu_a | I don't think the association has a # |
| 18:17.10 | scorche|sh | shirish: last year ^^ |
| 18:17.11 | shirish | like the last years 2008 gsoc had some participating organizations |
| 18:17.14 | shirish | yeah thanks socinfo |
| 18:17.28 | hdworak | half of USA Fortune 100 is registered in Delaware if I recall correctly :) |
| 18:17.28 | easwar | heh |
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| 18:17.49 | lh | alexu_a: the phone number where we can track someone down if yelling is needed. |
| 18:17.56 | lh | rarely needs to yell |
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| 18:17.58 | alexu_a | oh, ok |
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| 18:18.01 | alexu_a | my # :D |
| 18:18.06 | lh | there we go. :) |
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| 18:18.41 | merlijn | lh: when the webpage goes up with the list of orgs, I suppose a mail will fly out to gsoc-announce mailing list? |
| 18:18.54 | lh | merlijn: correct |
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| 18:19.00 | merlijn | great, thanks |
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| 18:19.27 | phrozn1 | lh: when is the list excpeted it go up? (i just got back) |
| 18:19.39 | Catfish_Man | noon, as announced |
| 18:19.58 | phrozn1 | Catfish: great, thanks |
| 18:20.37 | mdc | Melange is quite impressive. I've been able to use it to do the required actions quite easily :) |
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| 18:20.51 | lh | mdc: all hail melange. :) |
| 18:20.53 | jmb | melange does, indeed, rock |
| 18:20.56 | lh | hugs the developer team. |
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| 18:21.14 | dberkholz | aha, got our planet onto the gentoo home |
| 18:21.17 | easwar | nobody from the dev team hugs back :( :x :P |
| 18:21.25 | alexu_a | Most definitely |
| 18:21.32 | alexu_a | big ups to the melange crew! |
| 18:21.35 | dberkholz | for some reason i thought it would be part of the page edit instead of the org profile |
| 18:21.36 | alexu_a | soooo much better |
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| 18:21.53 | jmb | lh: thank-you for your hard work. oh, and for accepting NetSurf this year :) |
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| 18:22.18 | djc | lh, thanks a bunch for accepting hg again this year |
| 18:22.26 | easwar | lh, ? |
| 18:22.37 | lh | djc: yw. you folks did good last year. |
| 18:22.37 | nandana | hi |
| 18:22.39 | lh | jmb: yw. |
| 18:22.47 | lh | i feel wierd getting thanks for this stuff. |
| 18:22.49 | nandana | is the list available ? |
| 18:22.51 | Crofton|work | just out of curiousity, what percent of accepted groups where new this year? |
| 18:22.54 | mdc | The completion and field prompting in Melange is quite helpful :) |
| 18:23.04 | lh | Crofton|work: i would have to run stats, give me a sec |
| 18:23.12 | Crofton|work | thanks |
| 18:23.29 | astro73|eee | Here's a weird eligibility edge case for someone. I am a student at WPI (Worcester Polytechnic Institute). WPI runs classes by the quarter, aka term. |
| 18:23.33 | djc | lh: I genuinely hope we can do a little better this year |
| 18:23.53 | easwar | astro73|eee, even part time students are allowed |
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| 18:24.08 | Talad | Good day |
| 18:24.08 | ecin | astro73|eee: I take classes by the trimester. Try that. :P |
| 18:24.28 | Talad | I will be interested in knowing if google admins give a reason for rejection |
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| 18:24.28 | astro73|eee | I will be taking a break D term this year, not taking classes, and returning A term for next year. |
| 18:24.33 | Talad | or if they just reject |
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| 18:24.37 | lynxlynxlynx | Talad: later |
| 18:24.39 | astro73|eee | (ecin: Rose?) |
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| 18:24.51 | astro73|eee | Technically, i |
| 18:24.53 | easwar | Talad, or in ##gsoc |
| 18:25.20 | lh | Talad: yes |
| 18:25.23 | lh | !whynot |
| 18:25.23 | socinfo | "whynot" is lh will respond to questions about why your org didn't get in later. |
| 18:25.25 | ecin | astro73|eee: If Rose is a specific institute, I don't know of it. But taking a term off for GSoC sounds mighty similar to taking summers off. |
| 18:25.30 | scorche|sh | easwar: huh? |
| 18:25.48 | easwar | what happened scorche|sh ? |
| 18:25.51 | Talad | socinfo: thanks, I need the same info |
| 18:25.51 | socinfo | Error: "thanks," is not a valid command. |
| 18:25.58 | Talad | eheh |
| 18:26.05 | jefferai | lh: Got the email, got our profile submitted. Big thanks for the acceptance. |
| 18:26.19 | astro73|eee | Technically, i'm withdrawing, which (if i understand it correctly) strictly speaking would mean I'm not a student on April 20. Is there a way for Google to make an exception? Or am I just out of luck? |
| 18:26.23 | scorche|sh | doesnt see how that channel was a response |
| 18:26.38 | Talad | I'm very surprised we have not been accepted, we are a great project ;) |
| 18:26.44 | Crofton|work | :) |
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| 18:26.51 | mdc | I'm assuming that there is no list of accepted organizations because organizations need to accept to be officially part of the program? Or have I just not found the proper URL? |
| 18:26.53 | Talad | but I would like to know the motivations behind this |
| 18:26.54 | Crofton|work | all great projects apply to SoC |
| 18:26.54 | welterde | lh: ok then.. |
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| 18:27.13 | Crofton|work | mdc, wait until noon PDT |
| 18:27.14 | scorche|sh | mdc: it was announced early to org admins so that they can prepare their page before the lsit if published |
| 18:27.14 | brlcad | lh: that is phenomenal that you were able to announce early -- kudos indeed to the melange devs, thanks everyone once again for a great framework! |
| 18:27.15 | djc | mdc: hasn't been published yet |
| 18:27.19 | Catfish_Man | Talad: socinfo is a bot with automated question answers, not a person |
| 18:27.27 | ajaksu | I think these high-anxiety moments could use decoys... like 'while you wait for the complete list/reasons/primary mentor/*, watch this new, long and calming gsoc video' |
| 18:27.27 | mdc | Thanks Crofton|work and djc |
| 18:27.29 | dberkholz | waits to discover whether x.org made it |
| 18:27.33 | Talad | mdc: I have the rejection, listed in my gsoc page |
| 18:28.04 | icy | when were the emails sent? our project admin hasn't received any yet |
| 18:28.04 | easwar | scorche|sh, ^^That's how it makes sense |
| 18:28.09 | lh | mdc: publishing the list in about 30 minutes, want to have data for people to look at before we announce the list |
| 18:28.10 | phrozn1 | ajaksu: agreed :P |
| 18:28.16 | easwar | icy about 10 mins ago |
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| 18:28.21 | lh | jefferai: yw |
| 18:28.22 | scorche|sh | o_O |
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| 18:28.39 | lh | brlcad: ty |
| 18:28.49 | lh | dberkholz: they did |
| 18:28.54 | Talad | lh: review us before posting the list!! |
| 18:28.56 | jefferai | lh: Do you want us to hold our announcement until you announce your list? |
| 18:29.00 | Talad | Atomic Blue - PlaneShift |
| 18:29.02 | steinbeck | Hi all, is there a way to get one sentence on why my organization has been rejected? |
| 18:29.08 | scorche|sh | Talad: no...patience... |
| 18:29.11 | easwar | !whynot |
| 18:29.11 | socinfo | "whynot" is lh will respond to questions about why your org didn't get in later. |
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| 18:29.12 | lh | Talad: what? |
| 18:29.25 | easwar | !whynot| Talad |
| 18:29.25 | socinfo | Error: "whynot|" is not a valid command. |
| 18:29.31 | icy | later as in..? :) |
| 18:29.36 | lh | jefferai: it would be very nice to do so. no one can see the public list until then anyway so best not to send folks to an empty site |
| 18:29.37 | kblin | !when |
| 18:29.37 | socinfo | "when" is later |
| 18:29.41 | ajaksu | Talad, steinbeck: don't forget that many orgs can be represented in projects of umbrella orgs, so not getting an org in doesn't mean not getting projects for it ;) |
| 18:29.43 | easwar | !whynot | Talad |
| 18:29.43 | socinfo | Error: "whynot" is not a valid command. |
| 18:29.46 | lh | icy: later as in later. i have a lot to do right now ok? |
| 18:29.48 | jefferai | Sure, okay...thanks |
| 18:29.49 | easwar | argh |
| 18:30.07 | lh | jefferai: merci |
| 18:30.10 | kblin | sheesh, folks, get lh some peace :) |
| 18:30.14 | icy | lh: calm down, was just a question |
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| 18:30.23 | atulagrwl | lh: what is total no of org applied and total selected this yr? |
| 18:30.27 | mdc | Talad: Sorry you didn't get accepted. I hope you realize that your FOSS contributions are valued, and that having you in the FOSS community is very much appreciated. |
| 18:30.36 | easwar | atulagrwl, selected 150 |
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| 18:30.48 | ESphynx | didn't get accepted either :P |
| 18:30.49 | mmadia | 395 applied, iirc. |
| 18:31.00 | ESphynx | 150 / 395? |
| 18:31.03 | mdc | lh: Thanks for the heads up on the list. :) |
| 18:31.04 | gchaix | yeah |
| 18:31.10 | ankush | that is less than 50% |
| 18:31.16 | easwar | ESphynx, what org? |
| 18:31.17 | dberkholz | lh: sweet, thanks! i'm gonna be backup admin for them too. |
| 18:31.19 | lh | mdc: al good |
| 18:31.20 | lynxlynxlynx | that's more than enough :) |
| 18:31.22 | ESphynx | easwar : Ecere |
| 18:31.22 | lh | dberkholz: cool |
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| 18:31.36 | easwar | ESphynx, mentor,or student? |
| 18:31.41 | atulagrwl | easwar: thnx |
| 18:31.45 | mdc | 37.97% |
| 18:31.47 | easwar | atulagrwl, np |
| 18:31.51 | dberkholz | gsoc fits well into my "community" role on the xorg BoD |
| 18:31.53 | Talad | mdc: yes, I understand our work is appreciated |
| 18:31.55 | ankush | mdc: exactly |
| 18:32.11 | ESphynx | easwar Mentor |
| 18:32.16 | ankush | is that more or less than that of 2008 ? |
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| 18:32.23 | icy | less |
| 18:32.23 | easwar | ESphynx, hmm |
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| 18:32.39 | ankush | ok |
| 18:32.43 | lynxlynxlynx | marginally |
| 18:32.51 | easwar | got the message of GNOME acceptance to GNOME SoC channel |
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| 18:32.58 | mdc | Talad: I'm glad. The FOSS community is one of the nicest parts of programming in this domain. |
| 18:33.01 | scorche|sh | cheers EllenKo |
| 18:33.09 | mmadia | lh : is it necessary to list U.S. phone numbers with the complete international + country codes? |
| 18:33.10 | kblin | lh: I assume we don't need the org's street address right now, do we? |
| 18:33.10 | easwar | so that's one less org asking |
| 18:33.10 | brlcad | hugs solydzajs SRabbelier dannyb durin42 lh and the rest of the melange team for making life easier |
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| 18:33.19 | kblin | hi EllenKo |
| 18:33.24 | lh | mmadia: yes |
| 18:33.35 | lh | kblin: you can fill in bunk data for now |
| 18:33.37 | j-b | lh: thank you very much. |
| 18:33.47 | tote | if you want to participate as a student, and hasnt been involed until now, is it too late? |
| 18:33.48 | kblin | lh: great, just wanted to make sure. :) |
| 18:33.54 | malex | lh, EllenKo: Hello and thanks for running the SoF (Summer of Fun) again :) |
| 18:33.54 | kblin | tote: no |
| 18:33.59 | kblin | !timeline |
| 18:33.59 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 18:34.03 | kblin | tote: ^^^ |
| 18:34.23 | easwar | tote, no,student applications start 23rd Mar |
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| 18:34.37 | drycafe | lh: thanks |
| 18:34.44 | tote | ok great, thanks :) |
| 18:35.02 | easwar | tote, ur welcome |
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| 18:35.21 | drycafe | lh: and I'm looking forward to the love :-) |
| 18:35.29 | codo | glendix has been approved for gsoc ? |
| 18:35.31 | lh | looks forward to it too |
| 18:35.33 | lh | codo: no. |
| 18:35.36 | MatthewWilkes | hugs drycafe |
| 18:35.38 | MatthewWilkes | There you go |
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| 18:35.50 | easwar | hugs MatthewWilkes |
| 18:35.53 | nandana | lh, wso2 ? |
| 18:35.58 | easwar | spread it around now |
| 18:36.01 | drycafe | hugs MatthewWilkes |
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| 18:36.23 | scorche|sh | folks...for the third time, please just ask your org admin or wait for the list... |
| 18:36.50 | Talad | org admins know |
| 18:36.54 | nandana | ooops, sorry |
| 18:37.06 | easwar | scorche|sh, Can we have the URL,so twitter as soon as it's put up |
| 18:37.11 | hypa7ia | woo hoo got in! |
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| 18:37.20 | MatthewWilkes | Yeah, we're all curious about the other apps, there are other orgs that we work closely with and I'm dying to know if they got in, but it's not fair to just bug lh |
| 18:37.22 | hypa7ia | does a happy dance |
| 18:37.24 | lynxlynxlynx | hypa7ia: which project? |
| 18:37.28 | scorche|sh | easwar: what URL? |
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| 18:37.38 | ajuonline | for who is on Twitter. You might want to follow: http://twitter.com/talksahana coz Sahana is kool! :) |
| 18:37.39 | codo | plan9 ? |
| 18:37.40 | lh | folks chill out for now and enough with the twitterings |
| 18:37.45 | lh | codo: yes |
| 18:37.51 | easwar | scorche|sh, for the list |
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| 18:37.54 | codo | hmm nice! |
| 18:37.57 | hypa7ia | lynxlynxlynx: http://www.xelerance.com/GSoC2009/ |
| 18:37.59 | dberkholz | lh: heh, have you memorized the entire list? =) |
| 18:38.03 | hpatwork | What is a good place to make usability comments? |
| 18:38.15 | scorche|sh | easwar: i dont know, but it will be somewhere here: http://socghop.appspot.com/ ;) |
| 18:38.16 | hpatwork | ran into a couple of minor ones filling out the organization form |
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| 18:38.18 | lh | dberkholz: yes actually. |
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| 18:38.20 | Chainsaw | Ah, ltns Paulie. |
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| 18:38.26 | jmb | hpatwork: #melange? |
| 18:38.32 | lynxlynxlynx | ah |
| 18:38.38 | scorche|sh | dberkholz: well, considering she spent the last few days going over it in depth, i am sure she has.. |
| 18:38.44 | easwar | heh |
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| 18:39.03 | dberkholz | i'm not that good |
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| 18:39.57 | lh | no i just have this ungodly ability to memorize names and lists |
| 18:39.57 | gchaix | dberkholz: me neither. I am in awe of her :-) |
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| 18:40.25 | dberkholz | if i study a few hundred true/false facts for a few days, there's no way i'll score 100% if someone tests me |
| 18:40.35 | easwar | lh, that's nothing :P,I'm needing to memorize 4200 words+synonyms and antonyms for the GRE |
| 18:40.42 | dberkholz | gchaix: osl in? |
| 18:40.44 | lh | easwar: i've done that |
| 18:40.48 | djc | dberkholz: studying is different than discussing, I think |
| 18:40.50 | gchaix | dberkholz: yes :-) |
| 18:40.54 | dberkholz | gchaix: congrats! |
| 18:40.56 | easwar | lh, ah,that's why it's ok |
| 18:41.00 | gchaix | you too! |
| 18:41.07 | dberkholz | guess i'll have to try to recruit some people for my osl project |
| 18:41.08 | ecin | easwar: grad school for ya too? |
| 18:41.12 | lh | wanders off in search of more coffee |
| 18:41.18 | easwar | ecin, define grad |
| 18:41.22 | chx | in all honesty, given what OSU OSL gives to the FLOSS world , that'd be strange if they'd be out... |
| 18:41.24 | easwar | Masters? |
| 18:41.29 | PulpFiction | chx: yes for easwar |
| 18:41.36 | PulpFiction | *ecin |
| 18:41.53 | easwar | is always confused between grad in India and grad in USA |
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| 18:42.08 | ecin | easwar: generally the type of school you take the GRE for. Masters or Ph.D.s both count. |
| 18:42.11 | gchaix | chx: true, but we're in an odd position where we host projects that are also GSoC mentors, so we have to be careful we're not competing with them :-) |
| 18:42.19 | easwar | ecin, yeah,Masters for me |
| 18:42.41 | easwar | next year onwards that is |
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| 18:42.56 | easwar | still has one year to go for his Bachelors |
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| 18:43.26 | jonnymind | Hello all |
| 18:43.33 | easwar | Hello jonnymind |
| 18:43.49 | easwar | .... |
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| 18:43.55 | kitallis | easwar: come at #gsoc-in |
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| 18:44.51 | scorche|sh | kitallis: that channel name violates the freenode naming rules...you should have 2 hashes, as it is not an official channel... |
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| 18:45.04 | easwar | scorche|sh, it forwards to ## |
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| 18:45.25 | grwi | 5 minutes =) |
| 18:45.36 | skbohra | !next |
| 18:45.37 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 18:45.39 | kblin | grwi: 5 minutes to what? |
| 18:45.47 | rohananil | ah , i am back , is this the highest recorded number of people on this channel? |
| 18:45.52 | spectie | no |
| 18:45.53 | spectie | hell no |
| 18:45.55 | PulpFiction | 15..15 minutes. |
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| 18:46.00 | spectie | there were >1000 last year |
| 18:46.01 | dberkholz | more like half that |
| 18:46.05 | kblin | spectie: nope |
| 18:46.10 | spectie | kblin, oh? |
| 18:46.11 | Landon | :P |
| 18:46.15 | grwi | until 19:00 UTC, but i just remembered that my clock's not accurate... |
| 18:46.16 | spectie | maybe i'm hearing urban legends |
| 18:46.17 | spectie | ;) |
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| 18:46.20 | kblin | spectie: I think scorche checked his logs |
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| 18:46.29 | sid0_ | ~800 IIRC? |
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| 18:46.32 | spectie | that'll serve me right for passing on hearsay |
| 18:46.35 | stefans | hi there. Can anybody point me to where the "apply to become a mentor" link is on the website's menu ? |
| 18:46.45 | warthog9 | stupid question, why does melange ask me for an e-mail address when I need an e-mail address to log into the app? |
| 18:46.51 | gchaix | "GSoC: torture-testing freenode with massive channels since 2005" ;-) |
| 18:46.51 | djc | warthog9: not there yet |
| 18:46.53 | scorche|sh | 87X or so, i think |
| 18:47.16 | Landon | gchaix: sure it wasnt 06 or 07? |
| 18:47.17 | kblin | grwi: the oths are already notified, give the admins some time to do last minute polishing of their org profiles |
| 18:47.23 | djc | warthog9: scratch that |
| 18:47.26 | mdc | warthog9: I think that the email you use to login is your "google id" |
| 18:47.26 | djc | stefans: not there yet |
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| 18:47.35 | kblin | grwi: if you're interested in a particular org, ask the org admins |
| 18:47.43 | gchaix | Landon: "since" implies every year since :-) |
| 18:47.49 | Landon | well |
| 18:47.50 | mib_fo3937 | ask org admins |
| 18:47.53 | Landon | it used to be on slashnet |
| 18:47.55 | ToXBoT | Is Knoppix in? |
| 18:47.55 | dberkholz | bah, #gentoo has ~1000 on a regular basis. |
| 18:47.55 | Landon | #summer-discuss |
| 18:47.57 | grwi | thanks, but i prefer to wait : ) |
| 18:48.00 | icy | kblin: our admin hasn't received any mail yet |
| 18:48.03 | stefans | djc: when will it be ? |
| 18:48.06 | djc | dberkholz: making it hardly usable at all |
| 18:48.10 | mib_fo3937 | anybody interested in sahana |
| 18:48.11 | djc | stefans: in an our or so, I think |
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| 18:48.17 | dberkholz | thus the subchannels. =) |
| 18:48.21 | stefans | ack |
| 18:48.24 | leto | icy: have you tried logging in to the app to see? |
| 18:48.25 | skbohra | thinks it is the power of google that brings so many good people together |
| 18:48.26 | scorche|sh | seriously...stop asking if X is accepted guys... |
| 18:48.26 | dberkholz | apparently enough people still find it usable to hang out there |
| 18:48.40 | djc | dberkholz: true on both counts :) |
| 18:48.47 | impl | scorche|sh: X applied? |
| 18:48.51 | ESphynx | well, see you guys next year I guess :P |
| 18:48.52 | PulpFiction | wait for 15 minutes. the list wil be put up. |
| 18:48.52 | impl | ducks |
| 18:48.58 | mib_fo3937 | who supports HFOSS |
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| 18:49.04 | mdc | warthog9: Which could be distinct from whatever email address you use for communication regarding GSoC. In your case (with the power of procmail on your side) chances are they are one in the same :) |
| 18:49.04 | Crofton|work | impl, glad you beat me to that :) |
| 18:49.09 | easwar | !dontcry |
| 18:49.09 | socinfo | "dontcry" is (#1) don't take not getting into gsoc personally., or (#2) there is infrastructure in place to run your own gsoc like program, so if you really want to mentor students and bring new folks in, just go do it. google summer of code is awesome but it is not the be all end all of existence., or (#3) mentoring is really hard work., or (#4) Here. Have a cookie. We still love you. |
| 18:49.10 | lh | raises her hand in love of HFOSS |
| 18:49.11 | kizzo | durinbot has just talked to me, saying that she's never seen me before in this channel (but I have been). Has she just come online? |
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| 18:49.13 | xl0 | Hi. I have graduated last month, and will enroll as a Ph.D student soon, but I'm afraid I might miss the 15th April check. |
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| 18:49.19 | scorche|sh | impl: X as in $someOrg... |
| 18:49.26 | Landon | lh: half free open source software |
| 18:49.27 | Landon | ? |
| 18:49.28 | easwar | kizzo, yes |
| 18:49.33 | impl | scorche|sh: I know, I was /trying/ to be witty :( |
| 18:49.36 | lh | Landon: h = humanitarian |
| 18:49.40 | Landon | oho |
| 18:49.42 | kizzo | easwar: mmm |
| 18:49.42 | scorche|sh | i see that, but i am hungry and busy =/ |
| 18:49.49 | Catfish_Man | High Fructose Open Source Software |
| 18:49.57 | xl0 | Is there a change to participate as a student this year? ;) |
| 18:50.00 | lh | ^5s Catfish_Man |
| 18:50.03 | Catfish_Man | ^5 |
| 18:50.08 | chx | Catfish_Man: ^5 |
| 18:50.10 | mmadia | is it possible to alter the number of requested student slots after today? |
| 18:50.11 | Landon | s/software/syrup |
| 18:50.13 | Landon | mmmm |
| 18:50.13 | xl0 | * + for me |
| 18:50.20 | chx | dirnks some orange juice. yay for fructose. |
| 18:50.23 | calebr | !timeline |
| 18:50.23 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 18:50.24 | scorche|sh | mmadia: yes |
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| 18:50.27 | kblin | mmadia: of cours4e |
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| 18:50.32 | mib_fo3937 | HFOSS-Humanitarian FOSS Project |
| 18:50.37 | warthog9 | mdc: yeah procmail + fetchmail + owning multiple domains, everything tis awesome |
| 18:50.41 | easwar | lh, may I bump in for a friend? |
| 18:50.43 | kblin | mmadia: you don't know how many good apps you got yet |
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| 18:50.54 | mmadia | good point, kblin. |
| 18:50.57 | Kraln | woo, I woke up just in time |
| 18:51.05 | geoaxis | 10 more mins for accepted orgs? |
| 18:51.19 | mib_fo3937 | yse man 10 more |
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| 18:51.31 | mib_fo3937 | i have been waiting so long |
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| 18:51.37 | xl0 | highlights lh |
| 18:51.46 | lh | easwar: whatcha need? |
| 18:52.10 | easwar | lh, friend passes out of Bachelors in mid May |
| 18:52.15 | easwar | Can he apply? |
| 18:52.20 | Kraln | read the damn faq |
| 18:52.23 | geoaxis | i am actually watching sun one community online as well, http://www.sun.com/events/communityone/index.jsp |
| 18:52.24 | Kraln | the answer is yes |
| 18:52.26 | easwar | final year guy |
| 18:52.29 | lh | Kraln: sort of |
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| 18:52.38 | geoaxis | looks like Sun will be bought by IBM, good news for linux |
| 18:52.38 | lynxlynxlynx | imagines what a tune l's computer is playing if she has beeping on highlight on |
| 18:52.40 | Kraln | lh: it says as long as he's a student april 10th, right? |
| 18:52.45 | lh | easwar: that is answered in the faq dude, go look at it. |
| 18:52.46 | lh | 20th |
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| 18:53.01 | easwar | lh, yeah,which is what I told him |
| 18:53.11 | mhuot | geoaxis: I think they should rename themselves Blue Sun |
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| 18:53.19 | rkatiyar | has org list been published yet? |
| 18:53.24 | scorche|sh | no |
| 18:53.25 | easwar | mhuot, no BigSun |
| 18:53.31 | Catfish_Man | mhuot: two by two, hardware scout threads of blue? |
| 18:53.44 | rkatiyar | how long till it is out? |
| 18:53.50 | ecin | geoaxis: better news for those that own Sun stock. |
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| 18:53.53 | scorche|sh | !when |
| 18:53.53 | socinfo | "when" is later |
| 18:53.53 | mmadia | is it wise to list the maximum student slots we can support or to be slightly more conservative ? |
| 18:53.54 | geoaxis | hey mhuot, fingers crossed |
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| 18:54.00 | mhuot | geoaxis: Indeed |
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| 18:54.04 | mhuot | Catfish_Man: hah |
| 18:54.12 | lh | mmadia: ask for as many as you think you can realistically handle. |
| 18:54.13 | scorche|sh | mmadia: just list whatever now...it doesnt really matter yet |
| 18:54.27 | lh | if you haven't done gsoc before, be conservative. it is more work than you think |
| 18:54.33 | mmadia | thanks lh , scorche|sh. |
| 18:54.35 | geoaxis | ecin: VARguy thinks HP would come in and raise the bid |
| 18:54.42 | ajaksu | mmadia: you'll never be assigned more than what you say IIUC |
| 18:54.49 | lh | ajaksu: correct |
| 18:54.54 | kblin | lh: but we don't need to know this now, do we? |
| 18:55.18 | ecin | geoaxis: those that paid attention to Schwartz when he said that Sun was a great penny stock to invest in an year or so ago ought to be celebrating. |
| 18:55.57 | mib_fo3937 | % min to go |
| 18:56.03 | mib_fo3937 | 5 min to go |
| 18:56.13 | rkatiyar | is it 7 pm utc? |
| 18:56.22 | leeguy92 | mib_fo3937: shift happens :D |
| 18:56.25 | r0bby | taps foot |
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| 18:56.34 | rkatiyar | :) |
| 18:56.35 | geoaxis | ecin: but i liked Sun as an independent company under Schwartz, i hope his vision continues after Acqusition |
| 18:56.36 | kblin | patience, folks, patience |
| 18:56.41 | kblin | it'll be out when it's out |
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| 18:56.57 | r0bby | i'm patient :) |
| 18:57.02 | leeguy92 | .... |
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| 18:57.03 | leeguy92 | ... |
| 18:57.03 | r0bby | i'm tapping my foot for other reasons |
| 18:57.03 | ecin | geoaxis: agreed. The guy has a nice vision of OOS, but I wonder if it's sustainable. |
| 18:57.04 | leeguy92 | ....... |
| 18:57.06 | r0bby | not sure why. |
| 18:57.23 | kblin | leeguy92: stop it |
| 18:57.35 | leeguy92 | im tapping my foot cos r0bby is scratching my belly :) |
| 18:57.40 | mib_fo3937 | konsole |
| 18:57.41 | geoaxis | not saying that he was the best CEO in financial terms but he is from the hacker mindset |
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| 18:57.52 | LRN | No list yet? |
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| 18:57.58 | kblin | !when |
| 18:57.58 | socinfo | "when" is later |
| 18:57.58 | scorche|sh | patience folks |
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| 18:58.08 | smtms | LRN, it's there, click refresh a few thousand times |
| 18:58.14 | warthog9 | does anyone know how much of the "Contact Info (Private)" gets published if you publish your location? |
| 18:58.17 | LRN | O-o-ohka-a-a-ay... |
| 18:58.21 | easwar | 2 minutes to go |
| 18:58.21 | geoaxis | ecin: well actually there is going to be a talk about next gen open source models just about now, at http://www.sun.com/events/communityone/index.jsp |
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| 18:58.30 | kblin | !bugs |
| 18:58.30 | socinfo | "bugs" is Melange bugs are tracked at http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list |
| 18:58.31 | easwar | ..... |
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| 18:58.38 | BlackMagik | !when |
| 18:58.38 | socinfo | "when" is later |
| 18:59.00 | easwar | where will the list arrive BTW? |
| 18:59.09 | Catfish_Man | behind you |
| 18:59.09 | simon__ | it professionals nervous like little kids at christmas eve :) |
| 18:59.19 | ecin | geoaxis: interesting. Thanks for the link. |
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| 18:59.25 | Beket | simon__, so true :) |
| 18:59.31 | BlackMagik | i have 12PDT here |
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| 18:59.36 | impl | Your clock is off |
| 18:59.41 | BlackMagik | lol |
| 18:59.42 | valexey | !next |
| 18:59.42 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 18:59.50 | lynxlynxlynx | notice the tilda |
| 18:59.57 | hypa7ia | haha |
| 18:59.58 | impl | The tilde means bitwise not. |
| 19:00.01 | hypa7ia | simma down! |
| 19:00.03 | Landon | aha |
| 19:00.10 | easwar | yeah, right Catfish_Man |
| 19:00.14 | BlackMagik | the ~ is just like having gmail in beta |
| 19:00.25 | easwar | socghop.appspot.com/_______ |
| 19:00.26 | PulpFiction | 12:00pm Wednesday (PDT) - Time in San Francisco, California, ha ha :D |
| 19:00.26 | LRN | Tilda means that it will be before 13 noon PDT. |
| 19:00.33 | scorche|sh | no it doesnt |
| 19:00.43 | scorche|sh | tilde means about... |
| 19:00.50 | smtms | GSoC means late |
| 19:00.51 | easwar | ~ means it will arrive at home |
| 19:00.56 | punchagan | !next |
| 19:00.57 | socinfo | "next" is Accepted mentoring organizations will be announced on March 18 at ~12 noon PDT / 19:00 UTC |
| 19:00.58 | easwar | /home/<username> |
| 19:01.03 | Landon | smtms: today was just a fluke |
| 19:01.05 | lynxlynxlynx | easwar: /home/12 |
| 19:01.12 | *** mode/#gsoc [+m] by lh |
| 19:01.31 | lh | folks, we have found a bug. |
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| 19:01.35 | lh | so. |
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| 19:02.02 | lh | looks like not everyone got their accept reject emails |
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| 19:02.07 | lh | the melange team is debugging the problem |
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| 19:02.48 | lh | for now, hang on i am figuring out workaround |
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| 19:04.00 | lh | y'all are going to have to wait until the list is posted on the site in a few minutes. for now, please chill out, the list will be live soon. |
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| 19:04.34 | jyothish | @lh will it be up in next half an hr |
| 19:04.34 | BlackMagik | is Notepad++ on the list? |
| 19:04.34 | Corsix | great time for a bug to appear |
| 19:04.37 | luke-jr | lh: you should add an extra reject email and add my project that missed the deadline |
| 19:04.41 | easwar | lynxlynxlynx, nope,it will be /home/<username>/12 |
| 19:04.45 | scorche|sh | BlackMagik: patience |
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| 19:04.49 | tntcoda | is chilling |
| 19:04.51 | kblin | Corsix: seen worse |
| 19:04.57 | lynxlynxlynx | easwar: no, there is no slash |
| 19:05.01 | LRN | lh, You can just send these e-mails by hand. A couple of hudred e-mails is not a big deal, really ;) |
| 19:05.06 | sid0_ | luke-jr: which is your project? |
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| 19:05.11 | BlackMagik | scorche|sh, time is money :) |
| 19:05.11 | scorche|sh | lh: so to clarify, just the reject mails?...all of the success mails were mailed sucessfully? |
| 19:05.13 | easwar | lynxlynxlynx, yeah,point |
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| 19:05.20 | scorche|sh | BlackMagik: not here |
| 19:05.23 | luke-jr | sid0_: Armagetron Advanced ⺠|
| 19:05.27 | antarus | heh, I love how we have this problem ever year ;p |
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| 19:05.38 | homunq | scorche|sh: she said "accept reject emails" |
| 19:05.42 | rkatiyar | hey just wondering how can you count number of users in a channel |
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| 19:05.46 | kblin | scorche|sh: as long as the mails that have been sent were correct |
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| 19:05.48 | lh | scorche|sh: no it's the success mails where there were an issue as far as we can tell so far. |
| 19:05.51 | lh | the mails sent were correct. |
| 19:05.53 | Guest31852 | I wanna know now |
| 19:05.56 | lh | just some were not sent |
| 19:05.57 | Crofton|work | bummer :) |
| 19:05.57 | scorche|sh | ah |
| 19:06.05 | Lennie | finally internet :D |
| 19:06.14 | easwar | rkatiyar, check the right side |
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| 19:06.28 | mercutioviz | Has the mentoring list been made official yet? |
| 19:06.33 | scorche|sh | no |
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| 19:06.39 | mercutioviz | k |
| 19:06.40 | VDVsx | I only got the second mail (to fill the mentor admin profile), but melange show the right state |
| 19:06.46 | Landon | better than the success emails being sent to everyone |
| 19:06.47 | Landon | :) |
| 19:06.48 | mercutioviz | Our organization was reject... :( |
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| 19:06.57 | mercutioviz | rejected even |
| 19:06.58 | kr0y | What did I miss? Is the *unofficial* list out? |
| 19:07.03 | scorche|sh | !dontcry |
| 19:07.04 | socinfo | "dontcry" is (#1) don't take not getting into gsoc personally., or (#2) there is infrastructure in place to run your own gsoc like program, so if you really want to mentor students and bring new folks in, just go do it. google summer of code is awesome but it is not the be all end all of existence., or (#3) mentoring is really hard work., or (#4) Here. Have a cookie. We still love you. |
| 19:07.05 | aindilis` | how did you know it was rejected? |
| 19:07.11 | Guest31852 | I though google was very organized and responsible |
| 19:07.12 | lynxlynxlynx | sends some icecream towards the admin way |
| 19:07.17 | Guest31852 | bye |
| 19:07.19 | easwar | !whynot |
| 19:07.19 | socinfo | "whynot" is lh will respond to questions about why your org didn't get in later. |
| 19:07.31 | Crofton|work | all us rejects should unite! |
| 19:07.31 | scorche|sh | mercutioviz: ^^ ...LH will be able to tell you what you might want to improve upon for next year at a later time when she is not so busy |
| 19:07.35 | l0nwlf_ | kr0y: no , it'll be out within few minute |
| 19:07.36 | ajaksu | people, don't forget that many orgs can be represented in projects of umbrella orgs, so not getting an org in doesn't mean not getting projects for it ;) |
| 19:07.39 | mercutioviz | that works |
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| 19:07.46 | BlackMagik | this may not be the place but i'm not sure what constitutes commercial use for the maps api. let's say i wanted to put it on a site where rentals are available. the user has to pay to rent the equipment but doesn't have to pay to use the map. is this commercial use? cuz $10,000 is a lot to pay for a map api. |
| 19:07.50 | kblin | !forget next |
| 19:07.50 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 19:07.55 | geoaxis | this should be a lesson to all you software devs, bugs can come at ANY TIME |
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| 19:07.57 | scorche|sh | BlackMagik: this is indeed not the place |
| 19:07.59 | spectie | BlackMagik, this is not the place |
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| 19:08.07 | Crofton|work | nor the time |
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| 19:08.17 | kblin | !learn next as The list is going to be published really soon now (tm). Now stop asking. |
| 19:08.17 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 19:08.18 | mercutioviz | oh, and hearing about the window to apply closing at 3pm pacific at noon pacific on friday doesn't help one make a great application. :) |
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| 19:08.18 | luke-jr | BlackMagik: next time try #Google |
| 19:08.22 | easwar | scorche|sh, spearce Crofton|work +1 |
| 19:08.23 | mib_fo3937 | BlackMagik: lolz |
| 19:08.28 | ajaksu | I think these high-anxiety moments could use decoys... like 'while you wait for the complete list/reasons/primary mentor/*, watch this new, long and calming gsoc video' |
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| 19:08.37 | r0bby | WHOA |
| 19:08.38 | Kraln | mercutioviz: you had plenty of opportunity. |
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| 19:08.41 | r0bby | openmrs didn't make it |
| 19:08.47 | spectie | i'm listening to basque militant rock from the 80s |
| 19:08.52 | spectie | it really isn't chilling me out at all :s |
| 19:08.53 | scorche|sh | mercutioviz: that is your own fault then... |
| 19:08.57 | impl | r0bby: yes it did |
| 19:08.58 | borja | lol spectie |
| 19:09.04 | lynxlynxlynx | spectie: try some classic |
| 19:09.07 | Azkar_ | its hard to do homework in a transparent terminal window with this channel going crazy, lol |
| 19:09.08 | atsmyles | is the list going to be posted @ http://code.google.com/soc/ |
| 19:09.10 | lh | mercutioviz: and the reason you didn't apply earlier was? |
| 19:09.12 | locutus4 | it's funny it's third time when GSOC has major problem with their app in prime time (it happened in 2007,2008) |
| 19:09.15 | easwar | ajaksu, wish granted http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1095 |
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| 19:09.35 | r0bby | impl: it did? |
| 19:09.37 | r0bby | where? |
| 19:09.40 | lh | locutus4: google app engine error, first time using this platform. this has gone very very well. |
| 19:09.44 | Talad | locutus4: I hope there is also a bug in the google org pages |
| 19:09.44 | impl | r0bby: it's paged |
| 19:09.47 | impl | go to the second page |
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| 19:09.50 | Talad | where it lists us as rejected :) |
| 19:09.53 | spectie | borja, fan of kortatu ? |
| 19:09.56 | mercutioviz | because I didn't know my organization was interested until my boss said, "Hey Mike, let's see if we can do GSoC this year." That occurred on Friday March 13th, just before lunch time (Pacific) |
| 19:10.04 | scorche|sh | atsmyles: http://socghop.appspot.com |
| 19:10.05 | Corsix | did the app hit the limit on app engine email sending or something? |
| 19:10.06 | yadu | isn't the list of mentor organisations supposed to be put up in the main site?? |
| 19:10.07 | GnuTuxDeveloper | ouijb |
| 19:10.11 | Kraln | mercutioviz: again, lack of planning on your part, not failure on ours, etc |
| 19:10.12 | lh | mercutioviz: wow. |
| 19:10.14 | borja | spectie: I'm more of an Oskorri fan (and more "traditional" basque folk music) |
| 19:10.15 | mib_fo3937 | that is the essence of open source |
| 19:10.20 | yadu | did i miss something??? |
| 19:10.21 | GnuTuxDeveloper | hello, I want to know if my organization passed |
| 19:10.32 | spectie | not heard 'Oskorri' |
| 19:10.32 | mercutioviz | Kraln: I don't recall accusing you of anything |
| 19:10.37 | Catfish_Man | yadu: sloooow down. Dealing with a webapp bug first |
| 19:10.38 | scorche|sh | GnuTuxDeveloper: ask your org admin |
| 19:10.41 | spectie | looks |
| 19:10.42 | ajaksu | woot, mercurial! |
| 19:10.51 | kr0y | yadu, join the we-missed-something party |
| 19:10.56 | GnuTuxDeveloper | ok |
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| 19:11.07 | enjahova | is GHOP happening in 09? |
| 19:11.14 | spectie | borja, if you're at all interested in breton, check out 'tri bleiz die' |
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| 19:11.24 | Corsix | I'd like to see GHOP happening again |
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| 19:11.26 | easwar | !next |
| 19:11.26 | socinfo | "next" is The list is going to be published really soon now (tm). Now stop asking. |
| 19:11.28 | yadu | i don't get it..... if it were anyone else it would have been ok... |
| 19:11.30 | joshp | its march 18 past noon, no list yet? |
| 19:11.34 | GnuTuxDeveloper | there's no mail response |
| 19:11.35 | Mek | joshp: the list is up |
| 19:11.35 | yadu | but google not on time? |
| 19:11.42 | Mek | joshp: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 19:11.53 | geoaxis | guys ...just wait some time , list will be up soon |
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| 19:12.00 | rohananil | i would suggest everyone to watch lotr , but then again i should i have done it 3 hrs ago :) |
| 19:12.00 | mib_fo3937 | It's 2 boring refreshing the page all the time |
| 19:12.00 | kr0y | http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 19:12.02 | impl | It's been up since noon, you guys have just been complaining about it on IRC instead of looking. |
| 19:12.04 | yadu | Catfish_Man, so the final list is up n ready huh ? |
| 19:12.06 | mercutioviz | cool |
| 19:12.12 | Catfish_Man | yadu: it is ready, but not up |
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| 19:12.22 | Catfish_Man | once the bug is figured out, it will be posted |
| 19:12.27 | mib_fo3937 | google app engine fails only at the peak time |
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| 19:12.47 | kr0y | Its up |
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| 19:12.54 | kr0y | http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 19:12.57 | yadu | Catfish_Man, how much time do you think it will take ? |
| 19:13.00 | Catfish_Man | hey, cool then |
| 19:13.05 | Catfish_Man | yadu: negative 30 seconds or so apparently |
| 19:13.08 | welterde | mib_fo3937: then fire up gimp and replace "package tracking" with "timeline": http://xkcd.com/281/ |
| 19:13.13 | mhuot | geoaxis: Damn |
| 19:13.17 | scorche|sh | !timeline |
| 19:13.17 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 19:13.33 | kr0y | !next |
| 19:13.33 | socinfo | "next" is The list is going to be published really soon now (tm). Now stop asking. |
| 19:13.37 | geoaxis | mhuot: :( |
| 19:13.45 | easwar | Someone confirm whether the list is up scorche|sh ? |
| 19:13.45 | Catfish_Man | !forget next |
| 19:13.45 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 19:13.54 | Catfish_Man | easwar: load the link and see for yourself... |
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| 19:14.02 | easwar | Catfish_Man, I did |
| 19:14.05 | davr | works for me |
| 19:14.07 | Catfish_Man | looks up to me |
| 19:14.09 | easwar | and I saw |
| 19:14.21 | easwar | and I'm getting all confused by traffic on this channel |
| 19:14.29 | lh | someone teach the bot the org list please |
| 19:14.29 | easwar | ready but not up |
| 19:14.33 | easwar | up but not ready |
| 19:14.35 | soc_neewbie | http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 19:14.37 | *** part/#gsoc mercutioviz (n=michaelc@freeswitch/developer/msc) |
| 19:14.48 | Catfish_Man | easwar: the latter wasn't said. The former was my mistake which I corrected seconds later |
| 19:14.51 | mib_748yzd | !next |
| 19:14.51 | socinfo | Error: "next" is not a valid command. |
| 19:14.56 | jefferai | "orglist" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 19:15.08 | lh | !orglist |
| 19:15.08 | socinfo | Error: "orglist" is not a valid command. |
| 19:15.11 | jefferai | "accepted" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 19:15.12 | jefferai | hm |
| 19:15.17 | nandana | hmm, we are not in this time as well :( |
| 19:15.23 | Catfish_Man | !learn orglist as http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 19:15.23 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 19:15.24 | kr0y | !accepted |
| 19:15.24 | socinfo | Error: "accepted" is not a valid command. |
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| 19:15.26 | ArthurR | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2009/Ideas wtf |
| 19:15.30 | lh | Catfish_Man: ty |
| 19:15.33 | Catfish_Man | np |
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| 19:15.38 | Ori_B | hm, it would be nice if you dindn't need to log in to look at the org list |
| 19:15.42 | jefferai | ah, right, bad syntax |
| 19:15.46 | jefferai | was looking at the wrong line |
| 19:15.46 | lh | omg indeed wtf. |
| 19:15.50 | eivanov | Looks like it's time :) |
| 19:15.59 | lh | Ori_B: you are not supposed to have to. |
| 19:16.00 | yadu | easwar, it aint out yet |
| 19:16.05 | kr0y | seriously :( |
| 19:16.10 | lh | and you dont |
| 19:16.12 | icy | lh: same with single application pages |
| 19:16.14 | lh | i just saw it signed out |
| 19:16.18 | lh | icy: pardon? |
| 19:16.20 | yadu | easwar, that is what i understand from all this commotion |
| 19:16.25 | lh | goes to take care of ubuntu |
| 19:16.28 | icy | lh: the application details page |
| 19:16.29 | easwar | yadu, nope it's out |
| 19:16.35 | easwar | and it's !orglist |
| 19:16.35 | summatusmentis | lh: twitter is yearning for GSoC details :) |
| 19:16.39 | yadu | easwar, where??? |
| 19:16.40 | easwar | !orglist |
| 19:16.40 | socinfo | "orglist" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 19:16.43 | lh | summatusmentis: twitter can wait |
| 19:16.46 | easwar | yadu, there ^^ |
| 19:16.55 | straszheim | What is the address for the organization used for? |
| 19:16.57 | mib_fo3937 | ArthurR: didn't expect out of Ubuntu |
| 19:16.59 | summatusmentis | fair enough |
| 19:17.02 | lh | icy: that i dont care about as much, but log an issue |
| 19:17.04 | easwar | um,I already posted the list on twitter |
| 19:17.13 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: dude! :) |
| 19:17.13 | lh | easwar: well fabulous. |
| 19:17.17 | icy | lh: last time you said it was necessary |
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| 19:17.24 | Kraln | heh, even though we didn't get accepted, devkitpro is still willing to take students. there won't be any money, but much fun will be had by all |
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| 19:17.38 | easwar | lh, um,sorry? |
| 19:17.45 | Kraln | and danderson, since it's not part of gsoc, you can do stuff now :-D |
| 19:17.47 | ArthurR | I have some.. conflicts of interests with the ubuntu bid |
| 19:17.48 | lh | icy: i am looking at the link righ tnow and am not signed in. |
| 19:17.51 | gento_ | 106 org total? |
| 19:17.51 | easwar | deletes the tweet |
| 19:17.51 | locutus4 | why there are 2 lists ? |
| 19:17.54 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: dude :) |
| 19:17.59 | scorche|sh | gento_: 150 |
| 19:18.05 | mib_fo3937 | me 2 |
| 19:18.07 | smtms | lh, is it on the main page? |
| 19:18.12 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: having fun? |
| 19:18.15 | Kraln | !orglist |
| 19:18.15 | socinfo | "orglist" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 19:18.18 | prakhar | Kraln: hi, could you please direct me to a URL for your org |
| 19:18.27 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: yes, my griflriend is in town |
| 19:18.32 | Kraln | prakhar: http://wiki.devkitpro.org/index.php/GoogleSummerOfCode |
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| 19:18.38 | kblin | locutus4: read.. |
| 19:18.40 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: ah ah ah! :) |
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| 19:18.45 | kblin | locutus4: it;s mentioned on the page |
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| 19:19.00 | Kraln | er, what |
| 19:19.04 | lh | it's on the home page now |
| 19:19.13 | straszheim | is the arg admin for Boost and doesn't understand which address he should use for the main addre |
| 19:19.13 | dberkholz | lh: i'm curious how many orgs applied this year |
| 19:19.14 | gento_ | @scorche|sh i click next 3 times only get 106 org? |
| 19:19.15 | Kraln | prakhar: http://wiki.devkitpro.org/index.php/Google_Summer_Of_Code |
| 19:19.16 | straszheim | ss |
| 19:19.21 | easwar | dberkholz, 395 |
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| 19:19.25 | Crofton|work | dberkholz, 395 I believe |
| 19:19.30 | icy | lh: http://socghop.appspot.com/org_app/show/google/gsoc2009/abiword requires a login for me |
| 19:19.35 | lh | dberkholz: 395, minus a few duplicates |
| 19:19.45 | dberkholz | how funny |
| 19:19.55 | easwar | icy, it does for every project for everybody |
| 19:19.59 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: :-D it's nice to see her |
| 19:20.00 | dberkholz | the applying orgs somehow dropped from last year to keep the acceptance rate almost the same |
| 19:20.08 | icy | easwar: I know... |
| 19:20.09 | kblin | !bugs |
| 19:20.09 | socinfo | "bugs" is Melange bugs are tracked at http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list |
| 19:20.18 | kblin | icy: ^^^ |
| 19:20.27 | kblin | icy: file an issue |
| 19:20.27 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: great have fun! for now I feel, its sucks to be single again! |
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| 19:20.37 | ajuonline | although it has its own benefits! ;) |
| 19:20.41 | lh | icy: that's fine with me. |
| 19:20.46 | lh | icy: log an issue. |
| 19:20.48 | ankush | did anyone get this........https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2009/Ideas |
| 19:20.48 | jefferai | straszheim: do you guys have an office or foundation address? if so, use that address |
| 19:20.53 | mib_fo3937 | ajuonline: what are sahana prospects thsi year |
| 19:20.54 | jefferai | if not, use the address of the main admin |
| 19:21.03 | prakhar | Kraln: thanks! |
| 19:21.04 | ajuonline | mib_fo3937: its selected. |
| 19:21.06 | straszheim | jefferai: software freedom conservancy it is. thanks. |
| 19:21.11 | ajuonline | mib_fo3937: and you might be? |
| 19:21.21 | jefferai | straszheim: assuming they can receive mail for you |
| 19:21.24 | ivangarcia | !whynot |
| 19:21.24 | socinfo | "whynot" is lh will respond to questions about why your org didn't get in later. |
| 19:21.35 | Kraln | ubuntu's ideas page makes me sad. |
| 19:21.36 | dberkholz | i'm looking forward to seeing how many students apply this year. |
| 19:21.37 | mib_fo3937 | i am really interested in hfoss |
| 19:21.46 | Kraln | especially since we spent a lot of time on our application, and they didn't because they're cannonical |
| 19:21.47 | saiyr | anyone notice that middle clicking an ideas link will open the ideas page in a new tab but transfer the current page to the org page? |
| 19:21.49 | lh | mib_fo3937: try grameen foundation, openmrs |
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| 19:21.56 | lynxlynxlynx | oh well |
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| 19:22.12 | mib_fo3937 | lh:thanks |
| 19:22.13 | lh | is not feeling the love for ubuntu right now, calls jono bacon |
| 19:22.34 | Landon | 14:22:18 -!- Irssi: Peak for #gsoc@freenode: 874 (Mon Apr 21 14:44:36 2008) |
| 19:22.48 | mib_fo3937 | finally |
| 19:22.48 | lh | they were told to get that list updated. |
| 19:22.49 | Landon | anyone want to start bets on when it'll top that this year? :) |
| 19:22.49 | mib_fo3937 | it's there |
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| 19:22.52 | ivangarcia | lh: what time to you think we can start asking about rejected application reasons? |
| 19:23.01 | lh | ivangarcia: at this point no idea |
| 19:23.02 | easwar | !later |
| 19:23.03 | socinfo | Error: "later" is not a valid command. |
| 19:23.07 | easwar | !when |
| 19:23.07 | socinfo | "when" is later |
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| 19:23.22 | mib_748yzd | are the ideas list of all accepted orgs not up yet?? |
| 19:23.34 | geoaxis | guys, rejected applicants can always ask about it later ..it's not going to matter till next year |
| 19:23.49 | Chainsaw | mib_748yzd: Most should be. |
| 19:23.53 | enjahova | yeah, it would be nice to see an ideas list |
| 19:24.05 | Chainsaw | They're linked from the accepted orgs list. |
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| 19:24.14 | enjahova | oh, im blind |
| 19:24.16 | WinterMute | did SDL enter and get accepted this year? |
| 19:24.18 | dberkholz | they were part of the application, so it should be unusual to not have them up. |
| 19:24.24 | bitner | Is there a way that I can edit our ideas page link right away before adding all the other information (addresses, # applicants requested etc) |
| 19:24.36 | easwar | Ubuntu!I thought they never participated in GSoC |
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| 19:24.38 | enjahova | but its weird that its not with the Show Org App |
| 19:24.43 | dberkholz | WinterMute: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009?limit_0=100 |
| 19:24.45 | ajuonline | lh: there is an error on Sahana idea page link. it should be http://wiki.sahana.lk/doku.php?do=show&id=dev:sahana_gsoc09_ideas |
| 19:24.46 | mib_748yzd | for those orgs who haven't created their profile I can't see the ideas |
| 19:24.50 | bitner | there's a : in there that got escaped to %3A |
| 19:24.53 | ajuonline | lh: urlencode error. |
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| 19:25.02 | daste | hello everyone |
| 19:25.13 | easwar | hello daste |
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| 19:25.23 | yadu | easwar, how did it go ? |
| 19:25.33 | easwar | yadu, how did what go? |
| 19:25.35 | yadu | easwar, smc got rejected |
| 19:25.37 | easwar | hello nandana |
| 19:25.42 | easwar | yadu, hmm |
| 19:25.44 | nandana__ | hi easwar |
| 19:25.52 | lh | ajuonline: i dont know what that means, file a bug |
| 19:25.56 | Catfish_Man | I'm off to get lunch and such. Y'all place nice now |
| 19:26.00 | Catfish_Man | *play |
| 19:26.04 | easwar | nandana__, which project? |
| 19:26.09 | yadu | easwar, you were counting on some org na? |
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| 19:26.15 | easwar | sure Catfish_Man uncle |
| 19:26.19 | nandana__ | wso2 , rejected :( |
| 19:26.20 | easwar | yadu, GNOME |
| 19:26.26 | Corsix | http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009?limit_0=50&offset_0=50 - why is Samba listed on the bottom list, but not on the top? |
| 19:26.34 | yadu | easwar, and? |
| 19:26.39 | easwar | nandana__ mentor or student? |
| 19:26.43 | easwar | yadu, accepted |
| 19:26.56 | ajaksu | people, don't forget that many orgs can be represented in projects of umbrella orgs, so not getting an org in doesn't mean not getting projects for it ;) |
| 19:26.58 | yadu | easwar, nice ... good for you |
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| 19:27.05 | saiyr | Corsix: i think the top is people with incomplete profiles |
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| 19:27.10 | homunq | Corsix: the top list is orgs without profiles. the bottom list is with. |
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| 19:27.14 | nandana__ | easwar, mentor |
| 19:27.16 | easwar | yadu, what org were you looking at? |
| 19:27.18 | Corsix | ah, I understand now |
| 19:27.28 | easwar | nandana__, you have participated before? |
| 19:27.30 | yadu | easwar, smc |
| 19:27.38 | nandana__ | yep, three times |
| 19:27.51 | easwar | yadu, try for some other org which can use the language you know |
| 19:27.58 | yadu | nandana, hi , u've done gsoc 3 times? |
| 19:28.02 | easwar | nandana__, hmm,language? |
| 19:28.13 | easwar | prays for Python |
| 19:28.13 | merlijn | the link for the accepted org list on http://socghop.appspot.com/ points in the wrong direction |
| 19:28.25 | merlijn | it now wants to sign you up as a mentor :) |
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| 19:28.33 | nandana__ | easwar, 2 times as a student |
| 19:28.42 | nandana__ | easwar, once as a mentor |
| 19:28.50 | yadu | easwar, u mean it isn't late to approach other organisations? |
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| 19:28.57 | easwar | nandana__, hmm,which language? |
| 19:29.14 | summatusmentis | !timeline |
| 19:29.14 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 19:29.16 | easwar | yadu, no,but you will have to start from scratch,including ideas,etc |
| 19:29.38 | nandana__ | easwar, didn't get it |
| 19:29.41 | codo | easwar: Can some people who have graduated last year but aren't working in any companies still apply to GSOC ? |
| 19:29.47 | yadu | easwar, hmmm....thats going to be tough....but no other choice.. |
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| 19:29.55 | kblin | Corsix: samba is listed on the bottom page because I was a busy person :) |
| 19:30.00 | easwar | nandana__, which language did you program in? |
| 19:30.06 | easwar | codo, don't think so |
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| 19:30.09 | easwar | please read the faq |
| 19:30.12 | easwar | !faq |
| 19:30.12 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 19:30.12 | Ivanovic | celebrates that wesnoth is accepted |
| 19:30.18 | easwar | codo, ^^ |
| 19:30.19 | nandana__ | easwar, java :) |
| 19:30.22 | kblin | hail allman |
| 19:30.27 | ArthurR | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2009 links to student and information pages lead to "create a new page", no link to the idea page, idea page empty anyway, no contact info whatsoever, no irc, no mailing list. This is a joke. |
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| 19:30.39 | easwar | nandana__, hmm,I was hoping it would be Python |
| 19:30.47 | easwar | gratz Ivanovic |
| 19:30.51 | solydzajs | merlijn: the link is now fixed |
| 19:30.56 | nandana__ | easwar, :) |
| 19:30.58 | dottedmag | lh: thank for running such a great program! Good luck for this year's GSoC, and I'm looking forward for applying again next year. |
| 19:31.04 | kblin | ArthurR: looks like a bug |
| 19:31.11 | easwar | nandana__, still a student? |
| 19:31.27 | nandana__ | easwar, nope , now working |
| 19:31.46 | easwar | nandana__, hmm,you are from India right./ |
| 19:31.48 | easwar | *? |
| 19:32.07 | nandana__ | easwar, No, Nandana Sen is from India :D |
| 19:32.34 | ajuonline | isnt she an acotr? |
| 19:32.37 | ajuonline | actoress* |
| 19:32.43 | easwar | nandana__, I know Nandana Sen is from India,but you joined #gsoc-in,so I asked |
| 19:32.45 | ajuonline | and I am the know typo king. so my apologies |
| 19:32.46 | nandana__ | easwar, I am close to India |
| 19:32.48 | easwar | ajuonline, actress,yes |
| 19:32.55 | easwar | nandana__, hmm,ok |
| 19:33.06 | ajuonline | easwar: the channel for gsoc indian community is ##gsoc-india |
| 19:33.09 | ArthurR | kblin, the fact that they've been selected ? |
| 19:33.16 | lynxlynxlynx | hehe |
| 19:33.18 | easwar | ajuonline, I know |
| 19:33.18 | ajhais | nandana: how close :P |
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| 19:33.57 | micahcowan | thinks it's slightly confusing for the main GSoC page to announce as published a list that's still being loaded with orgs (unless 44 will be it) |
| 19:34.00 | IwikiwI | ajhais: how's researching sugar going? |
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| 19:34.11 | allman | kblin: hail back :) |
| 19:34.13 | kblin | ArthurR: ubuntu is a big project. if they got in, they'll fix it |
| 19:34.14 | ArthurR | oh well, I don't care anyway |
| 19:34.22 | ajuonline | allman: hail!!! :) |
| 19:34.24 | kblin | or be yelled at by lh |
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| 19:34.29 | geoaxis | so all the organizations have been published or are we missing any? |
| 19:34.32 | kblin | which is pretty unpleasant |
| 19:34.32 | ArthurR | I hope so, because a lot of student will be very confused |
| 19:34.37 | joevano | micahcowan: i think you are mistaken |
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| 19:34.55 | kizzo | !orglist |
| 19:34.55 | socinfo | "orglist" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 19:35.26 | allman | Ajuonline: back at you :) |
| 19:35.30 | joevano | micahcowan: i count 150 on that list.. in 2 different sections |
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| 19:35.39 | easwar | lh, sorry again |
| 19:35.44 | mib_748yzd | lh:have all orgs not updated ideas list yet? |
| 19:36.24 | micahcowan | joevano, I still get 44, when I view "100 items per page", and it was increasing by about 1 every minute (from ~42) for a bit. |
| 19:36.35 | ojwb | micahcowan: there are two lists |
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| 19:36.54 | Kraln | kblin: the fact is we're sad because it looks like they didn't have to even put together a proposal because they're big fish |
| 19:36.54 | smtms | micahcowan, is there another list under that one? |
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| 19:37.04 | ojwb | for orgs that have filled in the profile and ones which have't yet |
| 19:37.05 | ajhais | IwikiwI: yeah.. pretty good.. how is your printing doc stuff goin |
| 19:37.11 | micahcowan | ojwb, there aren't at http://socghop.appspot.com/org/apply_mentor/google/gsoc2009?limit_0=100 |
| 19:37.12 | micahcowan | And the two lists for me (when I clear the limit) look to add up to ~97... |
| 19:37.14 | joevano | smtms: actually i see it above the 44 |
| 19:37.36 | ojwb | ah, that's "mentoring for" |
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| 19:37.48 | sid0_ | lh++ |
| 19:37.53 | sid0_ | that looks like an awesome list |
| 19:38.05 | joevano | micahcowan: those are the orgs that have completed all of their set up and can accept students |
| 19:38.05 | micahcowan | ojwb, I just followed the link from the main page. |
| 19:38.31 | ojwb | http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 has them all - I guess for the mentoring page you need to wait |
| 19:38.36 | ojwb | or manually edit the link |
| 19:38.51 | ajuonline | gaveen: yo! any update? |
| 19:39.01 | devvrat | sid0_: are you applying this time |
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| 19:39.24 | sid0_ | devvrat: sorry, didn't recognize you... you are? |
| 19:39.26 | l0nwlf_ | !timeline |
| 19:39.26 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 19:39.44 | homunq | folks, if you need to vent, including "look how pathetic that other org's app/ideas/profile is/are", you can do it on ##gsoc |
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| 19:40.07 | lh | ok folks go twitter like there is no tomorrow |
| 19:40.10 | gaveen | ajuonline, hi, nope still out of Colombo. Stuck with some stuff to sort out. To top it off, phone's been disconnected. :( |
| 19:40.15 | MatthewWilkes | :( Looks like Zope Foundation didn't get a spot. If anyone here was considering applying for something covering Zope 2 or Zope Framework (but not Grok) let me know, as Plone uses both extensively, and your proposal might be in scope for us. |
| 19:40.17 | devvrat | sid0_: a student of your insti |
| 19:40.18 | Peet | so are all orgs finalized, none more to be accepted? |
| 19:40.40 | ajuonline | lh: up on the task ;) |
| 19:40.44 | sid0_ | devvrat: well I figured that out by the IP :P I meant do I know you? |
| 19:40.54 | micahcowan | Oh! GNU did make it in. I almost missed it, since the project id is apparently "karlberry". :D |
| 19:40.57 | sid0_ | and no, I'm not applying this year |
| 19:41.09 | ojwb | sorting by the link_id is a bit odd |
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| 19:41.47 | summatusmentis | lh: *salutes* re-tweeted as ordered |
| 19:41.54 | durin42 | micahcowan: the perl foundation is in as "dukeleto" |
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| 19:42.05 | micahcowan | durin42, that's... awesome! :) |
| 19:42.09 | ajaksu | MatthewWilkes: you sure qualify for trying under the PSF? |
| 19:42.15 | homunq | in the vein of MatthewWilkes: :( OLPC did not get a slot. Most projects relating to OLPC would be in-scope for Sugar Labs. |
| 19:42.38 | MatthewWilkes | ajaksu: PSF would likely consider the projects in scope too, yes |
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| 19:43.04 | ajaksu | so, there, remember the umbrellas :) |
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| 19:43.48 | MatthewWilkes | ajaksu: We're the major user of Zope 2 though, the communities are mostly the same people ;) |
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| 19:44.18 | glaksmono | hello world |
| 19:44.32 | glaksmono | is back from sleep :D |
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| 19:44.45 | summatusmentis | the umbrella orgs should put somewhere that there might be other projects for other orgs that applied that would fit under the scope |
| 19:44.49 | summatusmentis | that's not clear |
| 19:44.50 | tntcoda | 2 very good applications for projects which i have a high interest in should be enough shouldnt it? |
| 19:44.53 | glaksmono | lol.. |
| 19:44.56 | VDVsx | maemo is a umbrella for ebedded/mobile devices projects |
| 19:45.00 | glaksmono | summatusmentis: that's right! |
| 19:45.01 | Ivanovic | tntcoda: sure |
| 19:45.05 | glaksmono | lol |
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| 19:45.09 | glaksmono | umbrella heck ytea |
| 19:45.10 | Ivanovic | tntcoda: that is: make sure that the orgs know you |
| 19:45.12 | Chainsaw | To anyone looking for the Atheme.org ideas and finding the wiki server a bit unresponsive... |
| 19:45.13 | ferrouswheel | have accepted projects been announced somewhere already? |
| 19:45.14 | Ivanovic | communicate with them |
| 19:45.19 | LRN | 150 projects total? |
| 19:45.21 | Ivanovic | make them *want* you as participant |
| 19:45.23 | Chainsaw | We're sorry, we noticed it too: http://www.vroon.org/atheme/ |
| 19:45.26 | tntcoda | ok thanks Ivanovic |
| 19:45.31 | susscorfa | hi i was wondering at the moment i finised my masters but are not yet enroled in a phd program is is possible for me to apply to gsoc? |
| 19:45.34 | summatusmentis | !orglist |
| 19:45.34 | socinfo | "orglist" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 19:45.40 | summatusmentis | ferrouswheel: ^ |
| 19:45.43 | MatthewWilkes | spectie: Congrats :) |
| 19:45.47 | LRN | s/projects/organizations/ |
| 19:45.49 | kr0y | LRN, 150 accepted orgs |
| 19:45.53 | spectie | thanks MatthewWilkes ! |
| 19:45.53 | spectie | :D |
| 19:45.56 | spectie | i'm really chuffed |
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| 19:46.03 | easwar | susscorfa, if you are a student as on Apr 20,you can apply |
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| 19:46.23 | glaksmono | nice nice.. |
| 19:46.23 | micahcowan | notes that the section labeled "all accepted orgs" lists only 48... the more complete-looking section is "accepted orgs that haven't completed their profile" (which you would think should be a subset) |
| 19:46.30 | ajaksu | susscorfa: shouldn't it be scrofa? |
| 19:46.40 | susscorfa | easwar: hmm i don;t know if i manage to be by that time |
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| 19:47.11 | Chainsaw | wb Paulie |
| 19:47.12 | susscorfa | ajaksu: yes it should although now it is quite unique (made a the error years ago) |
| 19:47.18 | Chainsaw | Paulie: http://www.vroon.org/atheme/ |
| 19:47.28 | Chainsaw | Paulie: Not sure what's up with Redmine but it's very sick :/ |
| 19:47.31 | lynxlynxlynx | susscorfa: isn't it sus scrofa? |
| 19:47.47 | susscorfa | lynxlynxlynx: see reaction to ajaksu |
| 19:47.58 | lynxlynxlynx | oh |
| 19:48.12 | sid0_ | tntcoda: last year I had 2 applications, both to one org, and just one application which I was very serious about |
| 19:48.19 | susscorfa | btw you have lynx one time to many as well |
| 19:48.30 | lynxlynxlynx | no, it's the ssp |
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| 19:48.56 | susscorfa | the ssp is the one from the alps i guess? |
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| 19:49.00 | ajaksu | talking about umbrellas, it seems that google itself will act as a meta-umbrella? (ospo) |
| 19:49.16 | susscorfa | if a prof declares me to be a student is that fine ? |
| 19:49.18 | saiyr | how are duplicate acceptances for students handled? does google resolve them or allow the student to? |
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| 19:49.37 | MatthewWilkes | saiyr: We have a big meeting, but we ask the student what they prefer |
| 19:49.39 | lynxlynxlynx | this ssp is the most common one |
| 19:49.41 | Chainsaw | saiyr: Happened to us (Atheme) last year. Normally you figure it out between the two organisations and the student. |
| 19:49.46 | MatthewWilkes | saiyr: If they don't respond we decide for them |
| 19:49.51 | MatthewWilkes | we = orgs concerned |
| 19:49.56 | saiyr | that's good, thanks |
| 19:50.07 | r0bby | I have tweeted |
| 19:50.27 | micahcowan | saiyr, historically, if the orgs haven't figured it out between them, they are expected to show up at an all-orgs IRC discussion. Orgs that don't show up generally forfeit the student. :) |
| 19:50.29 | tntcoda | sid0: nice, and you got accepted to the one you wanted? |
| 19:50.33 | susscorfa | lynxlynxlynx: pardinus i would prefer :) |
| 19:50.38 | tntcoda | sid0_* |
| 19:50.46 | sid0_ | tntcoda: yes |
| 19:50.49 | mmadia | is a co-organization admin the same as a backup admin? eg "Invite n Admin" link on the socghop.appspot.com page |
| 19:50.58 | lynxlynxlynx | i'm not from there :P |
| 19:51.14 | HanzZ | hi... I have question... What will happen if I send applications to two organisations and both choose me ? |
| 19:51.16 | sid0_ | quality >>> quantity |
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| 19:51.28 | saiyr | thanks micahcowan |
| 19:51.38 | Chainsaw | HanzZ: The two organisations and you will have a talk. |
| 19:51.39 | sid0_ | HanzZ: we'll worry about that after you get selected :) |
| 19:51.41 | scorche|sh | HanzZ: we have a duplicate resolution meeting where we decide where the student should go to if they dont choose themselves |
| 19:51.49 | smtms | isn't it in the FAQ? |
| 19:51.59 | saiyr | no, i believe the FAQ just says that "google resolves it" |
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| 19:52.26 | susscorfa | but my question remains: if a prof declares me to be a student is that fine ? or do i need a transcript form a university (I'm now doing projects at a institute) |
| 19:52.39 | HanzZ | ok... so I can choose project then |
| 19:52.51 | kblin | ok, off dancing, see you around |
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| 19:53.15 | ajaksu | susscorfa: FAQ? |
| 19:53.28 | rohananil | susscorfa: last year even an id card was fine :) |
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| 19:53.53 | susscorfa | ok |
| 19:54.07 | HanzZ | ok thanks for help |
| 19:54.12 | susscorfa | thx |
| 19:54.14 | tushar_hailstone | can anybody tell me what are the experience prerequisites of GSOC |
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| 19:54.38 | summatusmentis | tushar_hailstone: that's really quite up to the organization |
| 19:54.40 | micahcowan | tushar_hailstone, as a student? That's up to the org/project |
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| 19:55.03 | tushar_hailstone | but generally |
| 19:55.07 | ajaksu | susscorfa: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs#student_eligibility |
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| 19:55.18 | tushar_hailstone | what is the state of affairs? |
| 19:55.21 | summatusmentis | tushar_hailstone: generally, coding skill is required :) |
| 19:55.27 | mordante | lh, for the mentor application the date of birth is asked, would it be possible to mention that the wanted format is m/d/y |
| 19:55.28 | micahcowan | tushar_hailstone, I believe orgs sometimes have project ideas specifically tailored for inexperienced students. |
| 19:55.29 | summatusmentis | it's hard to generalize it |
| 19:55.47 | lh | mordante: with software, all things are possible |
| 19:55.48 | lh | !issues |
| 19:55.48 | socinfo | Error: "issues" is not a valid command. |
| 19:55.49 | tushar_hailstone | So how are we supposed to know that |
| 19:55.52 | lh | !bugs |
| 19:55.52 | socinfo | "bugs" is Melange bugs are tracked at http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list |
| 19:55.55 | lh | feature requests go there |
| 19:56.23 | stjepan | lh: hi! I saw on a discussion posting from last year that you were willing to provide individual feedback to organizations that are not accepted. When would be a good time to bug you about that? |
| 19:56.30 | mordante | wasn't sure whether it was melange or the one designing the page |
| 19:56.36 | eivanov | lh: yay! Congratulation with first big step in GSoC 2009 :) |
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| 19:56.39 | homunq | !whynot |
| 19:56.40 | socinfo | "whynot" is lh will respond to questions about why your org didn't get in later. |
| 19:56.41 | summatusmentis | tushar_hailstone: apply, apply, apply |
| 19:56.45 | lh | stjepan: in a bit |
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| 19:57.01 | tushar_hailstone | micahcowan: If I have an interest in an X organization and i have ideas but no experience to implement it then? |
| 19:57.01 | welterde | lh: today? |
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| 19:57.17 | mordante | lh, and is it intended that mentors should be 18 this year? (not a problem for me) |
| 19:57.20 | stjepan | lh: k, tnx |
| 19:57.26 | joevano | susscorfa: see this, it takes more than someone saying you are a student, http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs#student_eligibility |
| 19:57.30 | Ivanovic | mordante: in general there is a dropdown callendar to use |
| 19:57.31 | homunq | lh, if you wanted to teach socinfo a !whynot time on Friday, nobody would blame you. |
| 19:57.31 | lh | mordante: it has always been in the tos. :) |
| 19:57.31 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 19:57.37 | tushar_hailstone | summatusmentis: do we have to personally apply to each organization in their wiki? |
| 19:57.41 | micahcowan | tushar_hailstone, you could contact the org, explain the idea, and also the fact that you haven't the experience and so would need close mentoring/handholding |
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| 19:57.55 | mordante | Ivanovic, maybe I should enable javascript ;-) |
| 19:57.58 | summatusmentis | tushar_hailstone: you apply through the SoC application process |
| 19:58.00 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 19:58.07 | homunq | welterde: last she said was "wait 24h" |
| 19:58.08 | summatusmentis | but yeah, you have a speciic org app |
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| 19:58.28 | susscorfa | joevano: such a doccument should be possible |
| 19:58.37 | mordante | lh, ok :-) |
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| 19:59.45 | lh | alright folks, looks like we're going to have some time before we can get to testing the next set of features for the app, so feedback on org apps can happen now. |
| 19:59.50 | lh | before we get started. |
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| 20:00.19 | lh | first come, first served. please chill out and keep non-application discussion out of channel. |
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| 20:00.34 | lh | next, a lot of you are going to hear "i am sorry we cannot accept everyone" |
| 20:00.54 | lh | you may have put in a great application and have a great ideas list |
| 20:01.40 | lh | as i mentioned previously, i have some ideas for orgs that were not accepted who would still be excited to mentor students, but now is not the time to discuss those options. we will do that later, with later as defined as no earlier than friday, california time. |
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| 20:02.45 | lh | also, as i previously mentioned, saying rude things about another organization that was accepted is not cool. it does not make you look like a better candidate for the program. it does not give confidence that you can interact well with students. if you have a comparison to make, make it politely or not at all. |
| 20:02.58 | lh | in fact, not at all is likely good. we can discuss such thoughts in private. |
| 20:03.33 | lh | finally, you can have your feedback in channel or via private message, your choice. if you PM to ask for feedback when we are not discussing your org, i am going to ignore your request until everyone else has had a chance to get feedback. |
| 20:04.00 | lh | i'd encourage folks to get feedback in public so everyone can learn from the discussion, but again this is up to you. |
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| 20:04.16 | lh | i am going to go get a coffee, then we can start. |
| 20:04.20 | lh | until then, relax. |
| 20:04.25 | lh | goes to get coffee |
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| 20:05.20 | BlackMagik | passes the cream to lh |
| 20:05.29 | disismt | asd |
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| 20:05.54 | disismt | lh: pentaho was not accepted? |
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| 20:06.16 | manus_eiffel | lh: what does "if you PM to ask for feedback" means? |
| 20:06.20 | lh | okay, who would like feedback first |
| 20:06.23 | stjepan | lh: urbanSTEW |
| 20:06.23 | nandana_ | lh: wso2 was not selected this time as well, we thought we would get selected this time |
| 20:06.30 | atsmyles | LispNYC |
| 20:06.34 | codestr0m | lh: me osunix |
| 20:06.34 | Crofton|work | lh, can I ask another time? I need to run now |
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| 20:06.37 | BlackMagik | steals lh's cup of coffee :) |
| 20:06.38 | lh | manus_eiffel: it means if i am talking to someone already and you /msg me to ask for feedback, i am going to ignore you |
| 20:06.40 | lh | Crofton|work: yes you can |
| 20:06.42 | lh | everyone stop now |
| 20:06.50 | lh | urbanSTEW, you're up |
| 20:06.53 | Crofton|work | thanks, beatiful day must ried bike :) |
| 20:06.56 | stjepan | cheers |
| 20:06.58 | lh | looks at notes |
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| 20:07.06 | lh | stjepan: ideas list link please |
| 20:07.22 | stjepan | http://www.urbanstew.org/gsoc_ideas.html |
| 20:07.23 | borja | lh: when you have a sec, I'd be interested in feedback on OpenNebula |
| 20:07.29 | lh | borja: you're in line |
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| 20:07.41 | bluepojo | Hello. |
| 20:07.45 | bluepojo | How goes life. |
| 20:07.48 | manus_eiffel | lh: same for me when you have a sec |
| 20:07.52 | lh | yep |
| 20:07.53 | atsmyles | lh, I'm interested in feedback on LispNYC |
| 20:07.57 | lh | okay folks queue is now full |
| 20:08.00 | ferrouswheel | lh: Can one be a mentor AND a student for an organisation? |
| 20:08.13 | borja | ferrouswheel: no |
| 20:08.15 | borja | !faq |
| 20:08.15 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 20:08.19 | Chainsaw | ferrouswheel: Mentors don't get paid. That wouldn't work. |
| 20:08.25 | lh | urbanstew, then the ws02, then lispnyc, then osunix, then eiffel, then opennebula |
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| 20:08.33 | lh | dont ask until i am done talking about opennebula please |
| 20:08.56 | lh | stjepan: i would like the url for your ideas list please |
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| 20:09.04 | stjepan | lh; http://www.urbanstew.org/gsoc_ideas.html |
| 20:09.09 | lh | folks we are going to get through this much faster if you have that data at the ready for me, saves me from digging for it |
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| 20:10.00 | codestr0m | has data ready |
| 20:10.06 | lh | stjepan: your application was fine, your ideas list was good. we cannot accept everyone. i am sorry. |
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| 20:10.28 | stjepan | lh: ok, thank you. |
| 20:10.29 | lh | ws02 you're up |
| 20:10.31 | dumi | lh: wso2 (https://wso2.org/wiki/display/misc/gsoc_2009_ideas) |
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| 20:10.43 | bluepojo | Students may sign up on the 23rd, correct? |
| 20:10.49 | dumi | it's ws"o"2 :) |
| 20:10.52 | lh | stjepan: please stick around channel. i have some ideas for orgs that got rejected and i would like to see urbanstew do some great things |
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| 20:11.09 | lh | this is pretty much the story for all of you so you will forgive me if i dont repeat that over and over. |
| 20:11.12 | lh | dumi: looking |
| 20:11.16 | Chainsaw | bluepojo: Indeed, but don't let that stop you from browsing a bit. |
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| 20:11.38 | Chainsaw | bluepojo: You can already join IRC channels of organisations that have interesting ideas listed. |
| 20:11.40 | bluepojo | Chainsaw: ty for the confirmation. I'll be poking arounbd till then. |
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| 20:12.13 | tushar_hailstone | So are we supposed to discuss scope in the project of an organisation here? |
| 20:12.28 | bluepojo | Chainsaw: do they have SoC specific channels, or are we to use their default channels for such discussion? |
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| 20:12.37 | sid0_ | bluepojo: depends |
| 20:12.45 | bluepojo | Chainsaw: ie, #rubyonrails for rails |
| 20:12.46 | scorche|sh | bluepojo: ask them |
| 20:12.54 | bluepojo | scorche|sh: ah, it's project specific then, ty. |
| 20:12.54 | sid0_ | some do, some don;t |
| 20:12.58 | Chainsaw | bluepojo: If it's a separate channel (like for Atheme), it's generally listed. In our case, it's #soc2009 on irc.atheme.org |
| 20:13.06 | bluepojo | Chainsaw: got it. |
| 20:13.10 | tushar_hailstone | sid0_: From IIT-K, right? |
| 20:13.13 | sid0_ | yes |
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| 20:13.30 | ankush | is olat selected ? |
| 20:14.01 | lh | dumi: ideas list was fine, application was fine. your ideas were also things that can be handled under the auspices of other orgs, e.g. Apache, so we would like you to try to work with them. |
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| 20:14.14 | bijolianabhi | is moodle in selected organisation? |
| 20:14.15 | lh | lispnyc |
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| 20:14.18 | lh | you're up |
| 20:14.19 | atsmyles | http://lispnyc.org/soc2009.clp |
| 20:14.23 | lh | i don't need the link |
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| 20:14.43 | lh | we really like you guys. this was very hard. you were one of the returning orgs to end up on the cutting room floor. please don't take it personally. |
| 20:14.44 | Chainsaw | bijolianabhi: Yes, I see Moodle listed here: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 20:14.46 | lh | that's it. |
| 20:14.50 | dumi | lh, thank for the feedback! |
| 20:14.59 | lh | realizes that has got to be the least satisfying answer on the planet |
| 20:15.02 | lh | dumi: yw |
| 20:15.06 | WinterMute | lh, may I join the queue? |
| 20:15.36 | lh | WinterMute: in a sec |
| 20:15.50 | lh | osunix you're up |
| 20:15.51 | WinterMute | np |
| 20:15.53 | codestr0m | lh: ideas page http://www.osunix.org/docs/DOC-1022 application answers http://www.osunix.org/docs/DOC-1024 we had a recommendation from a googler.... and yes.. I see that the orgs accepted in many ways were just better.. how can we do better next year? feel free to pm me the feedback |
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| 20:16.11 | atsmyles | Thanks for the feedback |
| 20:16.49 | lh | atsmyles: thank you for taking this gracefully. |
| 20:17.04 | lh | codestr0m: it's what you have already cited. we can talk more extensively in a few days. |
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| 20:17.26 | lh | manus_eiffel: ideas list please |
| 20:17.33 | manus_eiffel | Ideas: http://dev.eiffel.com/Soc_2009 Aplication:http://dev.eiffel.com/Soc_2009_Application |
| 20:17.37 | lh | borja: have your ideas list for openneblua up |
| 20:17.49 | borja | lh: http://trac.opennebula.org/wiki/GoogleSummerofCode_Ideas |
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| 20:17.58 | Peet | Could you add the Spring project to the queue as well, if you wouldn't mind? |
| 20:18.07 | lh | Peet: you are behind wintermute |
| 20:18.14 | Peet | alrighty |
| 20:18.15 | bijolianabhi | lh:consider my request |
| 20:18.15 | lh | everyone, stop asking for enqueue until i ask you to please |
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| 20:18.39 | WinterMute | lh, cancel that for now, sorry - just been summoned for baby changing duties, afk for now |
| 20:18.40 | lh | bijolianabhi: can you not see that i am really really really busy? |
| 20:18.44 | lh | WinterMute: ok |
| 20:19.00 | lil_Toady | what's going on? |
| 20:19.15 | borja | lil_Toady: Rejected orgs getting feedback |
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| 20:19.23 | ajaksu | huh... could some op +m the chan then +v those in queue? |
| 20:19.28 | lil_Toady | what kind of feedback? |
| 20:19.44 | welterde | lil_Toady: why they got rejected |
| 20:19.46 | ojwb | lil_Toady: listen and see! |
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| 20:19.55 | lh | manus_eiffel: in general, and this is not true in all cases, we did not accept folks who were doing a hybrid open source/company mode. since we were taking fewer orgs this year. also eiffel seemed somewhat niche to us. |
| 20:19.57 | onar | so how many new orgs were accepted this year? |
| 20:20.04 | lh | onar: read the open source blog |
| 20:20.06 | lh | good lord |
| 20:20.16 | lh | if you are not getting org feedback please to try to find information out for yourselves |
| 20:20.25 | lh | like say at http://socghop.appspot.com |
| 20:20.28 | manus_eiffel | lh: niche is a somewhat subjective |
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| 20:20.34 | lh | manus_eiffel: that's all the fedback i can give you for now. |
| 20:20.39 | manus_eiffel | lh: eiffel got the ACM system award last year |
| 20:20.41 | lh | manus_eiffel: yes, it is subjective. we are human. |
| 20:20.56 | osgeo_wolf | good evenig lh |
| 20:20.57 | manus_eiffel | lh: regarding they hybrid aspect |
| 20:20.59 | DraX | so, on the accepted orgs page there are two sets of orgs |
| 20:21.02 | lh | manus_eiffel: yes, i understand that. there were a variety of factors. |
| 20:21.07 | lh | manus_eiffel: yes, go ahead |
| 20:21.10 | manus_eiffel | lh: what do you suggest we do? |
| 20:21.11 | DraX | is the first one just a list of applications? |
| 20:21.17 | lh | osgeo_wolf: hi, shhh. watch the party. |
| 20:21.42 | lh | manus_eiffel: i don't have suggestions. we took several hybrid orgs last year and we may do so again in the future, but not this time around due to reduced number of orgs. |
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| 20:22.14 | manus_eiffel | lh: should we create an Eiffel fundation instead? |
| 20:22.33 | manus_eiffel | lh: and then submit from such an organization? |
| 20:22.40 | mmadia | DraX the first is a list of accepted organizations who have not updated their profile. |
| 20:22.43 | lh | manus_eiffel: i don't know that that is really the answer. i think we should talk about that more via email in the coming days. |
| 20:22.46 | lh | lhospo@gmail.com |
| 20:22.54 | geoaxis | lh, just a thought , is it possible that tags based searching to organizations could be done (so that one could find project ideas which are for examples related to Java and WebDev) |
| 20:23.20 | manus_eiffel | lh: ok, you have my email, I'll be glad to continue the discussion further. Thanks for your comments and your work to this community |
| 20:23.23 | lh | geoaxis: there should be a feature request on file for that functionality, if not go ahead and add it. it is ceratinly needed |
| 20:23.31 | lh | manus_eiffel: and thank you for your graciousness. |
| 20:23.45 | lh | borja: |
| 20:23.50 | lh | open nubula please |
| 20:23.55 | ajaksu | is trying to answer non-feedback questions via /msgs... isn't there any other op available to help lh? |
| 20:23.55 | lh | er nebula |
| 20:23.55 | borja | lh: http://trac.opennebula.org/wiki/GoogleSummerofCode_Ideas |
| 20:24.06 | Lennie | geoaxis: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=270 |
| 20:24.07 | lh | ajaksu: it's fine. |
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| 20:24.47 | summatusmentis | ajaksu: I'm trying to answer non feedback questions as well |
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| 20:25.06 | sausagefeet | forgive me if this is the wrong time to ask, but if google requires proof of my enrollment in a program at a university, does that proof need to come direct from the university? or, should I ask them to send me something now? |
| 20:25.06 | vuntz | lh: woohoo, good to see the list of organizations! |
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| 20:25.23 | lh | borja: good application, good ideas list. can't take everyone. wish we could. could some of these projects be mentored under globus' auspices |
| 20:25.38 | lh | sausagefeet: wait until we ask you to get it you have awhile to turn it in |
| 20:25.42 | lh | vuntz: thanks |
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| 20:25.59 | osgeo_wolf | lh: thanks for shushing me :D I found out the answer for my self. |
| 20:25.59 | sausagefeet | lh: sounds good. thx. |
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| 20:26.24 | lh | WinterMute left. someone else was next. |
| 20:26.27 | mhuot | lh: Can I please add OpenNMS to the queue for feedback? I tried to wait patiently, until you were ready. :-) |
| 20:26.30 | borja | lh: no worries about not being able to take everyone (it happens :-) None of the projects could happen under Globus (OpenNebula is not a part of Globus), but one of them could happen under Ubuntu. And we'll still try to engage students outside of Summer of Code during the summer. |
| 20:26.31 | lh | next five orgs queue up |
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| 20:26.39 | ojwb | is interested in feedback on the Xapian application, projects url: http://trac.xapian.org/wiki/GSoC2009ProjectIdeas |
| 20:26.41 | ahuillet | enqueue(freedroidRPG) please |
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| 20:26.44 | Peet | that'd be Auswaschbar or myself with Spring |
| 20:26.53 | lh | borja: if you need help talking to the ubuntu folks lemme know |
| 20:26.55 | anirudh | !next |
| 20:26.55 | socinfo | Error: "next" is not a valid command. |
| 20:27.03 | MatthewWilkes | lh: If it'll help I can run a #gsoc-queue and keep you up to date with who's next? |
| 20:27.10 | borja | lh: the OpenNebula folks look forward to applying next year, and I'll still be involved through Globus. Thanks for all your work! |
| 20:27.11 | anirudh | hey , where's the list of accepted organisations |
| 20:27.15 | lh | MatthewWilkes: yep do it |
| 20:27.21 | lh | borja: thank you very much. |
| 20:27.27 | Chainsaw | anirudh: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 20:27.36 | lh | opennms |
| 20:27.37 | MatthewWilkes | Ok, everyone who's not already in the queue, join #gsoc-queue and state your org name and ideas list |
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| 20:27.55 | mhuot | lh: Our ideas list http://www.opennms.org/index.php/GSoC2009Ideas |
| 20:27.56 | Kraln | lh: I'd like to add devkitpro to the queue for feedback |
| 20:28.09 | lh | Kraln: do what MatthewWilkes tells you to do |
| 20:28.13 | *** mode/#gsoc [+o MatthewWilkes] by lh |
| 20:28.17 | ojwb | socinfo: learn next as March 18-23: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
| 20:28.18 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 20:28.37 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Thanks :) |
| 20:28.39 | Lennie | !next |
| 20:28.39 | socinfo | "next" is March 18-23: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
| 20:29.03 | lh | mhuot: your ideas list was fine, as was your application. you were one of the orgs that was let go to make room for new orgs. it is not personal, we have been privledged to have you with us. |
| 20:29.28 | mhuot | lh: Thanks, that was the best response I could hope for. We will re-apply next year. |
| 20:29.38 | lh | mhuot: thank you for your graciousness. |
| 20:29.43 | lh | MatthewWilkes: whose up? |
| 20:29.50 | MatthewWilkes | freedroidRPG, ideas list http://freedroid.sourceforge.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ToDo/OpenJobs |
| 20:30.04 | lh | this one was sad for me. |
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| 20:30.29 | *** part/#gsoc zacharyp (i=zacharyp@adara.cs.pdx.edu) |
| 20:30.44 | lh | we can't take everyone. ideas list was good, but kinda hard to read. that's about all i've got. |
| 20:31.05 | lh | i know we talked a lot last year about how to improve your application and i noticed the improvements. in the end it was cutting room floor. |
| 20:31.28 | lh | i would like to work with you guys to mentor students outside of gsoc if you want to talk about good ways to make that happen. |
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| 20:31.33 | MatthewWilkes | ( Next up Spring project, http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/SpringEngineTODO ) |
| 20:31.35 | ahuillet | well, with pleasure |
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| 20:31.53 | ahuillet | I guess we can talk by mail? |
| 20:32.02 | lh | ahuillet: yes please. |
| 20:32.09 | ahuillet | sure, thanks for your help |
| 20:32.18 | lh | ahuillet: thank you for your graciousness. |
| 20:32.47 | Talad | who's next? |
| 20:32.53 | lh | spring project, i would suggest that we discuss this privately. |
| 20:33.08 | ojwb | Talad: #gsoc-queue |
| 20:33.09 | lh | MatthewWilkes: whose the contact here? |
| 20:33.17 | Peet | Auswaschbar or myself |
| 20:33.25 | Auswaschbar | email? |
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| 20:33.30 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Peet beat me to it |
| 20:33.42 | lh | Auswaschbar: or pm |
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| 20:34.21 | lh | so first step, your ToDo list does not look gsoc specific. it may be that you created the page for gsoc or updated your regular to do list, but it does not look good to not have a gsoc specific page |
| 20:35.00 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next? |
| 20:35.09 | Kraln | pokes WinterMute |
| 20:35.12 | MatthewWilkes | devkitpro -- http://wiki.devkitpro.org/index.php/Google_Summer_Of_Code -- http://sourceforge.net/projects/devkitpro/ |
| 20:36.05 | MatthewWilkes | lh ^^^ |
| 20:36.09 | MatthewWilkes | Sorry |
| 20:36.34 | lh | we wanted to accept you and were excited about your application. OTOH, we were concerned that it may require HW that students don't necessarily have to be most successful. we had some trouble with this in the past and were gun shy. |
| 20:36.41 | lh | MatthewWilkes: all good. |
| 20:36.59 | MatthewWilkes | ( Next up: Xapian - projects url: http://trac.xapian.org/wiki/GSoC2009ProjectIdeas ) |
| 20:37.02 | lh | devkitpro folks, do you want speak further or have questions? |
| 20:37.03 | Kraln | I understand, we were prepared to send hardware to accepted students free of charge. this was listed in the ideas list. |
| 20:37.05 | lh | hang on MatthewWilkes |
| 20:37.24 | Corsix | some of the devkitpro ideas look nice :( |
| 20:37.35 | lh | Kraln: we know this. we also had a previously participating org promise the same thing with very poor results. given the decrease in the # of orgs, we were more conservative. |
| 20:37.45 | lh | again, we liked the ideas list. |
| 20:37.48 | lh | Corsix: hi peter |
| 20:37.50 | Kraln | also, many of the projects did not require hardware =) |
| 20:37.53 | Corsix | lh: hi :) |
| 20:38.00 | Kraln | we are still willing to mentor students, outside of gsoc if neccessary |
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| 20:38.17 | lh | Kraln: i know that. this was what tipped us to not accept. we can talk more later offline if you'd like. |
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| 20:38.23 | lh | maital_ashkenazi: hail maital |
| 20:38.32 | lh | Kraln: ok? |
| 20:38.38 | Kraln | certainly. my email is jeff@devkitpro.org |
| 20:38.46 | Kraln | (I think) |
| 20:38.52 | lh | Kraln: email me please, end of this week, lhospo@gmail.com |
| 20:38.55 | borja | lh: quick q: is e-mail ok to discuss mentoring (OpenNebula) students out of GSoC + trying to repropose one of the projects w/ Ubuntu? |
| 20:38.56 | lh | xapian, you're up |
| 20:38.57 | Kraln | will do |
| 20:39.02 | insane | what does it mean that the organisation haven't yet created its profile? |
| 20:39.06 | ojwb | lh: that's me |
| 20:39.07 | lh | borja: yes of course it is |
| 20:39.22 | lh | insane: that means they haven't update their info in the system, check back later |
| 20:39.43 | lh | ojwb: ideas list again please |
| 20:39.47 | lh | sorry lots of traffic in here |
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| 20:39.53 | ojwb | http://trac.xapian.org/wiki/GSoC2009ProjectIdeas |
| 20:39.56 | ojwb | s'ok |
| 20:40.12 | insane | lh: but is there any possibility that this organisation won't be accepting students? |
| 20:40.27 | lynxlynxlynx | highly unlikely |
| 20:40.28 | MatthewWilkes | insane: No, they've been accepted, don't worry. |
| 20:40.53 | MatthewWilkes | insane: If they don't it'll be by their choice to drop out, they won't be turned down by google now |
| 20:41.04 | Chainsaw | insane: It just means they haven't filled in a form yet. You won't be able to apply until the 23rd. But talk to them on IRC. Let them know you're interested. |
| 20:41.17 | insane | thanks |
| 20:41.19 | insane | i will |
| 20:41.25 | SRabbelier | is hiding |
| 20:41.42 | MatthewWilkes | -- Any more orgs wanting to know feedback on rejected applications, please join #gsoc-queue -- |
| 20:41.47 | lh | SRabbelier: go talk to solydzajs and find out what he needs help with please, we had a fire while you were gone. |
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| 20:42.16 | geoaxis | any org with project ideas revolving around java, javaEE and web devlopment (would like to share links) .. It will take me some time before i soft through all ideas pages |
| 20:42.29 | lh | ojwb: good ideas list, your application was also good. we simply cannot accept everyone. |
| 20:42.30 | SRabbelier | oh dear? |
| 20:42.33 | geoaxis | so sharing links would be good marketing on your behalf |
| 20:42.36 | lh | needs a bot to say that. |
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| 20:42.40 | MatthewWilkes | :) |
| 20:42.41 | solydzajs | SRabbelier: #melange please |
| 20:42.47 | lh | is willing to retype it over and over again |
| 20:42.47 | bluepojo | agrees with lh. |
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| 20:42.59 | ojwb | lh: ok, thanks |
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| 20:43.03 | danderson | so. |
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| 20:43.08 | danderson | lh: still need muting? |
| 20:43.13 | lh | ojwb: again, have ideas for ways to work with students outside of gsoc |
| 20:43.14 | bluepojo | thinks lh should use emacs irc and macro the response. |
| 20:43.19 | lh | danderson: i think we are ok for now |
| 20:43.20 | danderson | sorry for the extended offlininess. |
| 20:43.25 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next please. |
| 20:43.27 | ivangarcia | lh: hi, did you took into consideration the number of downloads to reject a project |
| 20:43.27 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Atomic Blue / Planeshift - http://www.atomicblue.org/google_soc_2009.htm |
| 20:43.30 | ojwb | lh: sounds interesting, so should I email you ~friday? |
| 20:43.31 | lh | danderson: all good. |
| 20:43.39 | lh | ojwb: yes please |
| 20:43.44 | ojwb | lh: will do |
| 20:43.47 | tushar_hailstone | how to create a wiki forum account? |
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| 20:44.37 | lh | this application was great. we cannot accept everyone. i am sorry. |
| 20:44.45 | lh | very cool sw |
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| 20:44.57 | Talad | well, you have accepted orgs which have been accepted already in the past |
| 20:44.58 | HanzZ | like planeshift too |
| 20:45.02 | Talad | the idea was "rotation" no? |
| 20:45.03 | HanzZ | *likes |
| 20:45.13 | Talad | we are providing damn great software |
| 20:45.16 | luke-jr | might like planeshift if he could find the website for it |
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| 20:45.28 | lh | Talad: what are you arguing? |
| 20:45.30 | hypa7ia | is it ok to ask about filling out the org profile in here? |
| 20:45.36 | Talad | and you accepted other game projects with less impact/visibility/results/professionalism |
| 20:45.38 | lh | hypa7ia: yes go ahead |
| 20:45.39 | hypa7ia | or should i wait til the queue is empty |
| 20:45.41 | hypa7ia | woot |
| 20:45.42 | jaideep | lh: how about the network based python app |
| 20:45.53 | lynxlynxlynx | Talad: they didn't say they will rotate everything |
| 20:45.54 | lh | jaideep: follow MatthewWilkes instructions please |
| 20:45.58 | easkwarren | lh: any feedback on glFusion' |
| 20:46.00 | lh | Talad: lynxlynxlynx is correct |
| 20:46.03 | hypa7ia | lh: is it editable once submitted? we're re-doing the website and have no rss now but will soon |
| 20:46.06 | lh | easkwarren: MatthewWilkes can help you |
| 20:46.06 | MatthewWilkes | jaideep: For feedback please join #gsoc-queue |
| 20:46.14 | ojwb | easkwarren: #gsoc-queue |
| 20:46.16 | lh | hypa7ia: yes you can update it later, no worries. |
| 20:46.28 | Talad | I would like to know the reason for the reject |
| 20:46.33 | hypa7ia | woot, will just fill out the minimum for now so that i can add other editors :) |
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| 20:46.40 | Talad | and how we compare to bzflag or other games you accepted |
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| 20:47.44 | Talad | or worldforge |
| 20:47.45 | Talad | our organization/quality/results/contribution is far better |
| 20:47.45 | lh | Talad: i just told you our reasoning. swearing at me does not help your case. nor does, as i said before this whole thing started, comparisons to other orgs is bad form. |
| 20:47.45 | devilsadvocate|l | does not envy lh her job |
| 20:47.45 | lh | so you're not listening to me. |
| 20:47.45 | lh | which really makes me wonder if you'd listen to your students. |
| 20:47.45 | lh | so there you go. |
| 20:47.49 | Talad | you just said: "we cannot accept anyone" |
| 20:47.51 | Talad | that's not an answer |
| 20:47.53 | lh | everyone. |
| 20:47.59 | lh | we cannot accept everyone. |
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| 20:48.00 | Talad | yes, everyone |
| 20:48.02 | lh | and it is an answer. |
| 20:48.16 | luke-jr | lh: can you accept projects that don't apply? |
| 20:48.25 | lh | luke-jr: not really no. |
| 20:48.30 | luke-jr | XD |
| 20:48.32 | Talad | well, I was expecting to get the reasoning behind the choice |
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| 20:48.43 | danderson | coin flip. |
| 20:48.51 | luke-jr | magic eight ball |
| 20:48.52 | danderson | I'm fairly sure it came down to that on some of them |
| 20:48.53 | lh | Talad: we don't know you, we couldn't accept everyone. your attitude here is not making me feel like we made a bad choice. |
| 20:48.54 | cpayan | heh, nice bot. that's new |
| 20:48.57 | summatusmentis | lh: feel free to direct people my way with questions not related to feedback, and I'll answer them to the best of my ability |
| 20:49.06 | homunq | Talad: you are not helping yourself |
| 20:49.07 | lh | danderson: that's exactly what it was about in a lot of them. |
| 20:49.14 | ojwb | there are probably 200-300 great applications out of nearly 400 and 150 places, so a lot of good applications have to be turned down... |
| 20:49.14 | lh | summatusmentis: thanks jake |
| 20:49.14 | Talad | lh: speaking about my attitude doesn't help |
| 20:49.20 | lh | ojwb: correct. |
| 20:49.22 | ArthurR | Talad, there was probably no specific reason, a bit of everything, size, enthusiasm, ideas, whatever |
| 20:49.24 | lh | that's it. i'm done. |
| 20:49.25 | Talad | I'm just saying what we do, and asking for an answer |
| 20:49.25 | lh | next please. |
| 20:49.41 | Talad | ArthurR: yes, this is what I wanted to know |
| 20:49.43 | ojwb | it's unfortunate, but giving lh a hard time for it doesn't benefit anyone |
| 20:49.43 | lh | MatthewWilkes: dequeue assistance please. |
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| 20:49.45 | Talad | if there was a reason |
| 20:49.51 | Rudd-O | hey there |
| 20:49.52 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Instantbird - http://instantbird.org/soc2009.html |
| 20:49.55 | Talad | ojwb: asking questions is hard time? |
| 20:50.01 | Rudd-O | 1. if I am not a college student, can I participate |
| 20:50.05 | Talad | anyway goodbye |
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| 20:50.10 | lh | Rudd-O: talk to summatusmentis |
| 20:50.10 | Rudd-O | 2. how do I chat with the PSF representatives for GSoC? |
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| 20:50.39 | Chainsaw | Rudd-O: Sorry, you have to be a student in order to participate. |
| 20:50.43 | Rudd-O | Chainsaw: oops |
| 20:50.54 | Chainsaw | Rudd-O: But that doesn't mean you can't still help out on proposals that wouldn't otherwise make it. |
| 20:50.55 | Rudd-O | can I still participate without pay? |
| 20:51.02 | ajaksu | Rudd-O: #gsoc-python |
| 20:51.11 | hybridOL | lh: Any general failures in the application of Irrlicht, or just bad luck? |
| 20:51.12 | jaideep | u know u got to convince the mentors |
| 20:51.21 | DrJoel | Rudd-O: any FOSS project will be happy to work with a new developer |
| 20:51.23 | lh | instantbird. guys i know we talked last year and i know you said that it would be hard for you to work with mozilla, but a plugin for moz is too niche given our space constraints. can you please ping me later so we can talk to gerv about trying to find a place for you |
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| 20:51.34 | lh | hybridOL: talk to MatthewWilkes please |
| 20:51.50 | MatthewWilkes | -- Any more orgs wanting to know feedback on rejected applications, please join #gsoc-queue -- |
| 20:51.51 | lh | MatthewWilkes: dequeue please |
| 20:51.54 | Chainsaw | Rudd-O: Any open source organisation is happy to have new developers. Please talk to the organisation that tickled your fancy anyway. |
| 20:51.58 | MatthewWilkes | lh: glFusion - http://www.glfusion.org/wiki/doku.php/ideas |
| 20:52.00 | fqueze_ | lh: It's not a plugin. But ok to ping you later :-). Thanks you |
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| 20:52.08 | lh | fqueze_: ok add on |
| 20:52.08 | Rudd-O | Chainsaw: awesome |
| 20:52.15 | lh | i'm tired, please forgive me. |
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| 20:52.32 | lynxlynxlynx | gives lh a supportive hug |
| 20:52.39 | fqueze_ | lh: not addon either but anyway, you are forgiven :) |
| 20:52.42 | lh | glfusion - good app, fine showing, i know you applied last year. again, cannot accept everyone. |
| 20:52.49 | DrJoel | is tired watching you lh |
| 20:52.56 | lh | DrJoel: powered by love |
| 20:53.00 | amit8-88 | hugs lh |
| 20:53.22 | lh | glfusion folks, let's talk about your desire to mentor students later this week. i think you could do some interesting stuff. |
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| 20:53.44 | jaideep | lh: can i put my individual query |
| 20:53.47 | jaideep | here?? |
| 20:53.48 | lh | jaideep: sup? |
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| 20:54.07 | jaideep | or its the session for the mentoring organizations in queue |
| 20:54.08 | lh | jaideep: you have ten seconds to ask your question |
| 20:54.19 | lh | jaideep: that's what it is supposed to be, for other stuff ask summatusmentis |
| 20:54.24 | lh | please |
| 20:54.27 | lh | ok |
| 20:54.29 | lh | biobreak, brb |
| 20:54.57 | jaideep | summatusmentis, :need to pop a ques |
| 20:55.04 | r0bby | summatusmentis: How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood |
| 20:55.08 | r0bby | that was painful to type |
| 20:55.30 | ojwb | log(10) |
| 20:55.41 | r0bby | base 10 or base 2? |
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| 20:55.49 | r0bby | s/2/e/ |
| 20:55.50 | ajuonline | r0bby: dude! you need to be muted. |
| 20:55.52 | Landon | or base e? |
| 20:55.55 | Landon | heh :P |
| 20:56.01 | r0bby | natural log |
| 20:56.08 | r0bby | ajuonline: what i'm a good boy :) |
| 20:56.08 | Landon | yeah, you beat me to it |
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| 20:56.29 | ojwb | has to be natural log I guess |
| 20:56.30 | r0bby | natural log is just a log with a base of e anyways so it works. |
| 20:56.42 | r0bby | so i'm not wrong |
| 20:56.51 | ajuonline | EllenKo: hail!! :) |
| 20:56.57 | r0bby | EllenKo: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 20:57.08 | Landon | what domain are we talking in is the better question |
| 20:57.19 | Landon | maths or !maths |
| 20:57.20 | Landon | :P |
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| 20:58.00 | lh | r0bby: now is not the time for idle banter |
| 20:58.12 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next in the queue please |
| 20:58.14 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Exherbo - http://dev.exherbo.org/~kloeri/gsoc/ideas.html |
| 20:58.18 | r0bby | lh :( |
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| 20:58.34 | r0bby | goes back to idling |
| 20:58.40 | jasebo | lh: will google be letting unsuccesful organisations know where they can improve for next year? |
| 20:58.40 | lh | looking |
| 20:58.57 | MatthewWilkes | jasebo: Yes, join #gsoc-queue |
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| 20:59.09 | ajaksu | jasebo: it's happening right now |
| 20:59.47 | LRN | Why The Asterisk Project is listed twice? |
| 21:00.28 | lh | kloeri: you are a nine month old distro. we usually don't take organizations that are so new. |
| 21:00.30 | lh | that's it. |
| 21:00.39 | lh | kloeri: sorry not to have better news for you. |
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| 21:00.45 | danderson | LRN: where is it listed twice? I see only one in the org list. |
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| 21:00.57 | LRN | http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009?limit_1=100&limit_0=100&offset_0=0 |
| 21:01.01 | DarkUranium | hey |
| 21:01.07 | kloeri | lh: ok, I'll try next year then :) |
| 21:01.09 | LRN | Listed are http://socghop.appspot.com/org_app/show/google/gsoc2009/asterisk and http://socghop.appspot.com/org/show/google/gsoc2009/asterisk |
| 21:01.25 | lh | kloeri: thank you |
| 21:01.29 | kloeri | lh: was the application otherwise good? |
| 21:01.53 | lh | kloeri: yes, ideas could use a bit more detail, but otherwise good |
| 21:01.54 | danderson | LRN: two separate lists |
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| 21:02.11 | kloeri | k, thanks a lot for your feedback |
| 21:02.13 | LRN | Where can i get *one* separate list of *all* organisations? |
| 21:02.18 | danderson | LRN: one is the list of accepted orgs, the other is the list of accepted orgs which haven't completed their profile |
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| 21:02.41 | danderson | LRN: the second box on the first page you linked |
| 21:02.43 | lh | kloeri: thank you for your graciousness. |
| 21:02.44 | LRN | If Asterix is in both, it means that Asterix got accepted and didn't completed its profile |
| 21:02.45 | lh | everyone hang on |
| 21:02.46 | danderson | that's the list of all accepted orgs |
| 21:02.57 | danderson | LRN: exactly. |
| 21:03.18 | LRN | However, if Blender Foundation did not completed their profile, it should also be in both lists |
| 21:03.18 | kloeri | goes back to conning people into writing software for free :) |
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| 21:04.07 | MatthewWilkes | -- Any more orgs wanting to know feedback on rejected applications, please join #gsoc-queue -- |
| 21:04.43 | danderson | LRN: okay, I'm out of ideas, one second :) |
| 21:04.45 | danderson | solydzajs: ping |
| 21:04.46 | DrJoel | danderson: rtems is also on both lists but I think all the required information is filled in. Any hint on what is missing? |
| 21:04.51 | danderson | solydzajs: see above from LRN |
| 21:04.53 | DarkUranium | can anyone tell if I'm elegible to join GSoC if I go to high school? (I'm confused, because sometimes I hear that college and high school are the same thing, and sometimes I hear that they're not) |
| 21:05.09 | solydzajs | danderson: pong |
| 21:05.20 | danderson | DarkUranium: are you over 18? Are you pre-accepted at a university or other higher institution? |
| 21:05.27 | danderson | have you read the FAQs for other eligibility conditions? |
| 21:05.41 | DarkUranium | danderson: I will be over 18 on April 5th (which is well within April 20th) |
| 21:05.46 | lh | folks please take the what's up with the org list conversation to #melange |
| 21:05.48 | ajaksu | DarkUranium: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs#student_eligibility |
| 21:05.52 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next please |
| 21:05.53 | MatthewWilkes | lh: i2p - http://trac.i2p2.de/wiki/gsoc/ideas |
| 21:05.56 | DarkUranium | danderson: And I did read the FAQs, but they didn't help much |
| 21:06.11 | DarkUranium | ...hence me saying that I'm confused on what college meant there |
| 21:06.32 | DarkUranium | ajaksu: I've been there, didn't help much |
| 21:07.02 | danderson | DarkUranium: I'm afraid I'm not sure either. I *think* that any education institution should be okay, as long as you're >18 |
| 21:07.08 | ajaksu | DarkUranium: lets pvt, leaving the channel silent |
| 21:07.14 | danderson | DarkUranium: but I suggest waiting 24 hours and asking lh again. But not now. |
| 21:07.20 | danderson | She's really, really, really busy. |
| 21:07.23 | solydzajs | DrJoel: It's on one list. |
| 21:07.31 | Vengeance | Hi. I guess I missed a conversation about why PlaneShift didn't make it? Does anyone have the log of that which they could paste me in PM? I don't want to make anyone repeat themselves. |
| 21:07.50 | danderson | Vengeance: sec. |
| 21:07.55 | lh | DarkUranium: danderson is correct |
| 21:08.04 | ojwb | Vengeance: the channel is logged - see the channel message |
| 21:08.07 | DrJoel | solydzajs: thanks.. i just replaced asterisk with rtems and it showed up.. just checking |
| 21:08.18 | lh | welterde: ideas list was ok, but could have used more fleshing out. lots of links to issue tracker, light on details. application was ok. |
| 21:08.40 | welterde | lh: hu? what links to issue tracker? |
| 21:08.57 | lynxlynxlynx | Vengeance: planeshift received the same reply as most unaccepted orgs so far; Talad didn't take it too well though |
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| 21:09.17 | welterde | there are lots of links to our "dev forum" though |
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| 21:09.23 | lh | welterde: hang on i am not using the right terminology |
| 21:09.25 | lh | here your first idea |
| 21:09.29 | Vengeance | lynxlynxlynx: All he said before he logged off was that he didn't get a reason, I guess. |
| 21:09.32 | lh | links to branches |
| 21:09.48 | lh | i click revision info, get an error message |
| 21:09.53 | welterde | lh: uh oh.. |
| 21:10.01 | Vengeance | lynxlynxlynx: I'm not emotional here. Just curious as what got lost in translation of him telling the story. :-) |
| 21:10.08 | lh | we would want to see more text description, not just links to branches and code comments. |
| 21:10.16 | lh | Vengeance: who are you asking after? |
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| 21:10.30 | ojwb | missing ".to" on the hostname there |
| 21:10.40 | Vengeance | lh: PlaneShift. Sorry if Talad was abrupt with you. |
| 21:10.44 | welterde | lh: do you have a link to where it breaks? |
| 21:10.45 | danderson | LRN: got it |
| 21:10.51 | lynxlynxlynx | Vengeance: i know; i could just feel him being hurt though - you had an excellent soc page |
| 21:10.58 | lh | welterde: http://stats.i2p/cgi-bin/viewmtn/revision/info/478592305cc29712c23a7b9d7366fd038f4977d8 |
| 21:11.00 | welterde | maybe there is a bug in trac-monotone i haven't discovered yet |
| 21:11.05 | lh | error message |
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| 21:11.07 | lh | An error occurred while loading http://stats.i2p/cgi-bin/viewmtn/revision/info/478592305cc29712c23a7b9d7366fd038f4977d8: |
| 21:11.08 | lh | Unknown host stats.i2p |
| 21:11.09 | danderson | lh: handling it |
| 21:11.10 | ojwb | welterde: it's missing ".to" |
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| 21:11.13 | Vengeance | lynxlynxlynx: He put a lot of work into that application, yes. |
| 21:11.16 | welterde | ah i see |
| 21:11.17 | lh | danderson: thank you. |
| 21:11.20 | danderson | lh: (the planeshift thing) |
| 21:11.28 | lh | danderson: thanks |
| 21:11.37 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next in the queue please. |
| 21:11.38 | welterde | lh: oh well.. shit happens... |
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| 21:11.45 | lh | welterde: um, yes. |
| 21:11.46 | MatthewWilkes | lh: jasebo: LimeSurvey - http://docs.limesurvey.org/tiki-index.php?page=LimeSurvey+2+Project+Ideas+for+GSOC+2009 |
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| 21:11.59 | MatthewWilkes | -- Any more orgs wanting to know feedback on rejected applications, please join #gsoc-queue -- |
| 21:12.04 | andrei | Hello everyone. |
| 21:12.09 | lh | jasebo: sigh. great app, great ideas page. we cannot take everyone. i wish i had better news for you. |
| 21:12.19 | welterde | lh: and other orgs which got accepted had even less text :> |
| 21:12.26 | welterde | anyway.. next year then |
| 21:12.31 | Vengeance | high-fives jasebo. :-) |
| 21:12.33 | jasebo | hi lh: err.. that's kind of great and awful at the same time |
| 21:12.33 | geoaxis | lh: would working the GSoC-appEngine count in as a GSoC project |
| 21:12.38 | lh | welterde: you're right. most had track records. |
| 21:12.42 | lh | jasebo: i know it is. |
| 21:12.48 | jasebo | any suggestions to put us higher on the list next year? |
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| 21:13.17 | lh | jasebo: no, you did well. bad luck. if you still are excited about mentoring students outside of gsoc, we can talk later this week. |
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| 21:13.37 | welterde | lh: i just put anything i could find that sounded useful for the given task |
| 21:13.47 | lh | geoaxis: if you mean melange, then yes |
| 21:13.58 | jasebo | ok, thanks then. I appreciate the feedback. |
| 21:14.17 | summatusmentis | lh: already covering geoaxis :) |
| 21:14.35 | lh | welterde: understood. stuff was busted. this was not good. we should move on from here, ok/ |
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| 21:15.08 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next please. |
| 21:15.13 | andrei | Hi, I'm a student new to GSoC and I wanted to ask a question or two? |
| 21:15.15 | MatthewWilkes | lh: hybridOL: Irrlicht 3d engine - http://www.irrlicht3d.org/wiki/index.php?n=Dev.IdeasGSoC |
| 21:15.19 | lh | andrei: talk to summatusmentis |
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| 21:15.22 | *** mode/#gsoc [+o summatusmentis] by lh |
| 21:15.25 | lh | don't get used to it jake |
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| 21:15.43 | summatusmentis | lh: not used to it, and probably unnecessary |
| 21:15.49 | summatusmentis | but thanks :) |
| 21:15.51 | lh | summatusmentis: enjoy it. |
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| 21:16.25 | MatthewWilkes | summatusmentis: This is more exciting than getting a gold star at school, isn't it? :) |
| 21:16.43 | summatusmentis | MatthewWilkes: absolutely |
| 21:17.05 | nrp | hmm, it got quiet |
| 21:17.07 | lh | hybridOL: ideas list could have been beefed upa bit. there is very little text to describe each idea, could be more. also not much by way of links to additional documentation, etc. please apply again next year, this is an excellent first attempt |
| 21:17.22 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next please |
| 21:17.28 | MatthewWilkes | lh: kstreith: opticks - https://wiki.ballforge.net/confluence/display/opticksDev/Summer+of+Code+2009 |
| 21:17.28 | hybridOL | ok, thanks |
| 21:17.35 | MatthewWilkes | -- Any more orgs wanting to know feedback on rejected applications, please join #gsoc-queue -- |
| 21:17.40 | lh | hybridOL: thank you for being gracious |
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| 21:18.25 | lh | kstreith: you only set up confluence for this project on march 13th. |
| 21:18.51 | kstreith | lh: we've been tinkering with website |
| 21:18.52 | lh | where's the rest of the structure for the project? |
| 21:18.56 | Vengeance | lh: I just read the log with Talad and PlaneShift. I apologize for his argumentative nature. He is stubborn for sure but that is sometimes a strength when running long-term OSS projects. :-) |
| 21:19.00 | lh | this did not look promising |
| 21:19.01 | Vengeance | lh: Thanks for your time. |
| 21:19.19 | lh | Vengeance: you're welcome. please tell him to calm down. his pm conversation with me was very. very. |
| 21:19.20 | kstreith | lh: that should have been linked to in the app, probably should have put cross-link on ideas page |
| 21:19.38 | Vengeance | lh: Ah that is even worse. I'll talk to him. Sorry. |
| 21:19.44 | Vengeance | Thanks for letting me know. |
| 21:19.50 | lh | Vengeance: appreciated. thank you. |
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| 21:20.16 | MatthewWilkes | Vengeance: His PM conversation with me and rant in #gsoc-queue weren't nice either |
| 21:20.21 | kstreith | lh: we'd like to apply next year, any other feedback? |
| 21:20.31 | lh | kstreith: one sec please |
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| 21:20.49 | Vengeance | MatthewWilkes: Noted. I'll speak to him about both of you. |
| 21:20.50 | lh | Vengeance: i am willing to take shit for this program, but speaking disrespectfully to another community member is not tolerable. |
| 21:21.03 | Vengeance | lh: I totally agree and you don't deserve that. |
| 21:21.27 | lh | Vengeance: this is not about me. this is about MatthewWilkes. he doesn't get paid to help with gsoc. that is not all right. |
| 21:21.35 | lh | i dont want to discuss this any more |
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| 21:21.40 | Vengeance | nods |
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| 21:21.44 | lh | Vengeance: i leave this in your capable hands |
| 21:21.52 | Vengeance | It will not happen again |
| 21:21.58 | lh | MatthewWilkes: i am very sorry about that. i know it's not my responsibility but i am still sorry. |
| 21:22.21 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Oh, don't worry about it. I've had much, much worse. |
| 21:22.24 | danderson | lh: anything I can help with, or shall I just lurk and randomly smack people? |
| 21:22.24 | lh | kstreith: add links to documentation that students can read to get up to speed since opticks is less well known. other than that, that's all the feedback i have. |
| 21:22.31 | lh | danderson: smack away. |
| 21:22.37 | kstreith | lh: thanks |
| 21:22.38 | lh | MatthewWilkes: i know that. but not on my watch. |
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| 21:22.47 | lh | kstreith: you're welcome. thank you for being gracious. |
| 21:22.51 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next please. |
| 21:22.53 | MatthewWilkes | :) I'm afraid that may be beyond your power to control |
| 21:22.54 | kstreith | lh: np |
| 21:22.57 | MatthewWilkes | lh: bard: SamePlace - http://wiki.github.com/bard/sameplace/summer-of-code-2009 |
| 21:23.10 | bard | hello :) |
| 21:23.16 | lh | bard: heya, looking |
| 21:23.28 | ajuonline | danderson: can I join the smacking as well? |
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| 21:23.46 | lh | advocates civility in place of need to smack |
| 21:23.52 | Fingolfin | wonders -- shouldn't the channel topic be updated a bit (hey, I am not complaining, just wanted to mention in case it got forgotten. *I* always forget to update IRC topics after making a release etc. ;) |
| 21:24.13 | rohananil | wonders if any opencv mentors are here |
| 21:24.17 | lh | danderson: could you update topic please? |
| 21:24.36 | danderson | lh: y |
| 21:24.51 | lh | danderson: merci |
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| 21:25.01 | tushar_hailstone | how to compile trunk from svn? |
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| 21:25.34 | mordante | tushar_hailstone, wrong chan I guess |
| 21:25.34 | sid0_ | tushar_hailstone: wrong channel |
| 21:25.49 | mmadia | lh : just wanted to confirm, i've now received the accepted org email. |
| 21:25.52 | lh | bard: ideas list is good. application was good. we also thought you may be able to mentor under the auspices of mozilla or pidgin since there's some overlap there |
| 21:25.57 | tushar_hailstone | sorry |
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| 21:26.05 | lh | mmadia: that's good, please tell solydzajs in #melange |
| 21:26.09 | *** topic/#gsoc by danderson -> Mentoring orgs have been selected! - Read the GSoC 2009 Site User's Guide http://tinyurl.com/gsoc09userguide - Updated Flyers & Program Presentations now the Wiki - Upload your screen casts, etc. to our YouTube Channel (details on mentors and students list) - Help Us Test the GSoC 2009 site: http://tinyurl.com/melangetesters - This channel is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
| 21:26.15 | merlijn | lh: have you possibly forgotten to ping the gsoc-announce list of the updates regarding organisation acceptance? :) |
| 21:26.28 | lh | merlijn: yes i have |
| 21:26.31 | rohananil | what about "Meet the Mentors Part V " :) |
| 21:26.40 | bard | lh: I see. unfortunately sameplace isn't a mozilla project nor a libpurple-based one. but thanks for the positive feedback |
| 21:26.43 | danderson | rohananil: what about it? |
| 21:26.49 | r0bby | I don't even want to know what lh's todo looks like right now |
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| 21:26.51 | lh | allman, koe; can one of you ladies please post to the announcement list that orgs have been accepted and include a link to the post on the opensource blog post. |
| 21:27.01 | justinc | I submitted an application that unfortuantely wasn't accepted. How can I find out more about why (in case we want to apply next year)? |
| 21:27.11 | MatthewWilkes | justinc: Join #gsoc-queue |
| 21:27.27 | justinc | okay thanks |
| 21:27.33 | lh | bard: see that's not clear to me. "descirption - mozilla based instant messaging client" and thunderbird integration, etc. |
| 21:28.05 | lh | bard: thanks for being gracious. we can talk later about hooking you up with either of those groups if there's a fit. |
| 21:28.11 | bard | lh: it's based on the mozilla platform but not part of the mozilla project. I see where the confusion comes from |
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| 21:28.18 | bard | lh: thanks |
| 21:28.18 | allman | lh: will do! |
| 21:28.39 | lh | bard: gotcha. they may still be willing to let you mentor under their umbrella. we can talk about that later. |
| 21:28.42 | lh | allman: merci |
| 21:28.44 | bijolianabhi | lh:assume in queue |
| 21:28.47 | bard | lh: ok |
| 21:29.01 | hypa7ia | melange oddity: admins can't see eachother? |
| 21:29.01 | lh | bijolianabhi: pardon? |
| 21:29.09 | Lennie | 4k hits on the org listing page already ^_^ |
| 21:29.15 | lh | hypa7ia: what do you mean by "see each other"? |
| 21:29.19 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next please |
| 21:29.20 | Lennie | superb :D |
| 21:29.30 | hypa7ia | lh: erp, pebcak, now i can :) |
| 21:29.32 | MatthewWilkes | lh: mperedim_: transifex - http://transifex.org/wiki/Development/SummerCoding/Ideas |
| 21:29.37 | lh | once again, let us all send love to the melange team. |
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| 21:29.41 | lh | hypa7ia: all good. |
| 21:29.46 | MatthewWilkes | -- Any more orgs wanting to know feedback on rejected applications, please join #gsoc-queue -- |
| 21:29.48 | hypa7ia | sends love and cupcakes |
| 21:29.57 | SRabbelier | lh: nice idea on the #gsoc-queue idea |
| 21:30.02 | lh | oooo cupcakes. even better. |
| 21:30.06 | SRabbelier | s/idea$/channel/ |
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| 21:30.52 | lh | SRabbelier: that was all MatthewWilkes |
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| 21:31.05 | SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: made of awesome dude |
| 21:31.28 | MatthewWilkes | Anything I can do to help :) |
| 21:31.58 | Lennie | bows before MatthewWilkes |
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| 21:32.07 | lh | mperedim_: ideas list ws ok, could use some links to additonal documentation. we thought you could possible work with the fedora folks since they use your code. other than that, you did fine, we cannot take everyone. |
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| 21:32.24 | MatthewWilkes | hey, now, stop it melange people. hail #melange |
| 21:32.31 | lh | darn skippy. |
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| 21:32.45 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next please. |
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| 21:32.51 | MatthewWilkes | lh: drycafe: obf - http://open-bio.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2009 |
| 21:32.54 | mperedim_ | lh: thanks for the feedback |
| 21:32.54 | lh | well that was abrupt |
| 21:33.04 | MatthewWilkes | hmm |
| 21:33.08 | lh | mperedim_: yw. i assume you know how to reach the fedora folks, if not emme know. |
| 21:33.11 | lh | lemme even. |
| 21:33.16 | MatthewWilkes | Skip obf then, I suppose |
| 21:33.20 | MatthewWilkes | lh: cedk: Tryton - http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/gsoc2009 |
| 21:33.36 | drycafe | lh: I'm back (hit the wrong button) |
| 21:33.50 | MatthewWilkes | ah :) |
| 21:33.52 | lh | drycafe: good application, good ideas list, hilmar does well and is experienced. we just cannot accept everyone. i wish i had a more satisfying answer for you. |
| 21:34.40 | danderson | summatusmentis: I relieve you, go find power :P |
| 21:34.54 | summatusmentis | lh: take note :) |
| 21:35.00 | drycafe | lh: thanks for the positive feedback - I appreciate the situation you guys are in |
| 21:35.07 | lh | summatusmentis: thank you and done. |
| 21:35.14 | lh | drycafe: thank you for being gracious. |
| 21:35.15 | summatusmentis | anything I can do to help |
| 21:35.34 | drycafe | lh: any recommendation on what we could do differently next year? |
| 21:36.00 | lh | cedk: ideas list is ok, could use links to more documentation, information. i liked that you published your application publicly. |
| 21:36.09 | drycafe | thinks it's probably inappropriate to send lh chocolate during org review time |
| 21:36.18 | SRabbelier | drycafe: it is, very much so |
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| 21:36.28 | lh | agrees with SRabbelier |
| 21:36.39 | lh | let us all do our part to keep our karma and consciences clean here people. |
| 21:36.47 | cedk | lh: ok, you mean more documentation about the project ? |
| 21:36.47 | mmadia | or coffee, personal masseuse, .... :) |
| 21:36.47 | lh | cedk: any questions? |
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| 21:37.07 | lh | cedk: no about each idea. there's a sentence or two, could have been beefed up. document where to find out more to execute on the idea. |
| 21:37.28 | r0bby | is it okay to send chocolates if you're not an org admin? |
| 21:37.39 | lh | mmadia: i don't want these things. i just want us all to good things for the world. i can find my own coffee. |
| 21:37.45 | cedk | lh: ok |
| 21:37.49 | cedk | lh: thx |
| 21:37.51 | lh | r0bby: i guess? i do not need it. |
| 21:37.59 | lh | cedk: thank you for being gracious. |
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| 21:38.11 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next please. |
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| 21:38.13 | MatthewWilkes | lh: justinc: Seattle project - https://seattle.cs.washington.edu/wiki/IdeasList |
| 21:38.18 | MatthewWilkes | -- Any more orgs wanting to know feedback on rejected applications, please join #gsoc-queue -- |
| 21:38.23 | r0bby | Okay, i'll cut the banter til the questions die down :) |
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| 21:39.25 | lh | justinc: ideas list could be a bit beefed up, currently very sparse for most ideas, no level of difficulty listed, no links to further documentation. |
| 21:40.12 | lh | triest to think of a particularly good ideas list she could references as an example |
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| 21:41.44 | danderson | lh: I think xmms2's is pretty good |
| 21:41.48 | danderson | well, if it is like last year's |
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| 21:42.13 | danderson | lh: http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009/Proposed_projects |
| 21:42.17 | danderson | justinc: see above |
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| 21:42.35 | lh | it's not as strong as last year's but provides a decent reference point. |
| 21:42.37 | lynxlynxlynx | out of memory |
| 21:42.55 | lh | ok folks, i need to step away for a moment and give my hands a rest |
| 21:43.17 | lh | MatthewWilkes: can you please ask folks in the queue to try to rearrange for folks who need to go to bed soon? i know we have folks in .eu who are waiting |
| 21:43.26 | lh | and um you are there too and all |
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| 21:44.07 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Queue is currently 2 (including me asking on someone else's behalf) |
| 21:44.12 | sanil_sun | XMMS2 link not working, err |
| 21:44.33 | anothy_x | worked here. |
| 21:44.37 | lynxlynxlynx | sanil_sun: refresh |
| 21:45.19 | sanil_sun | Ok, running, Thanx |
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| 21:47.14 | IngoRenner | good night everyone! |
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| 21:48.13 | joshp | my application to graduate was late last fall, im technically still a student until its accepted this summer |
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| 21:49.36 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next please |
| 21:49.41 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Crofton|work: BeagleBoard.org - http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/Ideas-2009 |
| 21:49.45 | lh | btw folks git does have pretty darn good ideas list |
| 21:49.52 | lh | SRabbelier: link please |
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| 21:50.21 | justinc | danderson: is http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009/Proposed_projects meant as a guid of what a better ideas list would look like? |
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| 21:50.37 | lh | justinc: take a look at the git ideas list, it is much better |
| 21:50.44 | lh | http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2009Ideas |
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| 21:51.02 | grogs987 | how do i know if i'm experienced enough to work on any projects? |
| 21:51.03 | jkridner|work | are those lingering items? |
| 21:51.03 | MatthewWilkes | ooh, that is good |
| 21:51.06 | SRabbelier | http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2009Ideas |
| 21:51.07 | danderson | justinc: yeah, the git ideas list is better. xmms2's is okay, but could be better |
| 21:51.21 | SRabbelier | was handling Melange issue tracker issues for a moment |
| 21:51.35 | MatthewWilkes | -- Any more orgs wanting to know feedback on rejected applications, please join #gsoc-queue -- |
| 21:51.39 | lh | Crofton|work: ideas list needs beefing up, no tmuch description for a bunch of these, needs links to further documentation |
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| 21:51.48 | justinc | lh: okay thanks. We'll try to emulate this if we apply next year |
| 21:51.55 | Crofton|work | ok, git list is open already here |
| 21:52.03 | lh | justinc: thank you for being gracious |
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| 21:52.21 | stjepan | lh: thank you again for your earlier feedback regarding urbanSTEW, and for being open to discussing alternatives. I need to leave (and the internet here is breaking down), but I will check the logs later & email you if appropriate. |
| 21:52.46 | Crofton|work | lh, anything else? |
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| 21:53.10 | lh | stjepan: come back friday |
| 21:53.14 | lh | we can talk then |
| 21:53.33 | lh | Crofton|work: seemed a bit niche to us as well, but that shouldn't stop you from reapplying. |
| 21:53.37 | jkridner|work | lh, is project visibility, concept, participation good if ideas list was more fleshed out? |
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| 21:53.43 | stjepan | lh: ok, tnx |
| 21:53.51 | Crofton|work | I was worried we were a bit broad :) |
| 21:54.02 | Crofton|work | lh, thanks |
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| 21:54.30 | lh | jkridner|work: that's tougher. we don't have unlimited funds, so it's hard to say. we have accepted niche projects before for various reasons, i can't say for sure right now, brain is kinda toast. can we take up later this week please? |
| 21:54.41 | lh | MatthewWilkes: next please |
| 21:54.44 | MatthewWilkes | lh: lynxlynxlynx: sourcemage - http://wiki.sourcemage.org/Summer_of_Code |
| 21:54.46 | lh | Crofton|work: thank you for being gracious |
| 21:55.11 | jkridner|work | lh, thats fine. thanks for this feedback and we'll look for more when you are fresher. :) |
| 21:55.28 | lh | jkridner|work: awesome, thank you. |
| 21:56.16 | ArthurLiu | lh, I'm retracting what I said about ubuntu earlier, we'll try to collaborate with the ubuntu gsoc team to exchange students during the proposal period |
| 21:56.42 | lh | ArthurLiu: sounds good. what about debian. |
| 21:56.49 | lh | focuses |
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| 21:57.29 | ArthurLiu | debian ? we're doing good, we have some exciting proposals right now |
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| 21:58.40 | arizona | is there any stats about the average school grade/level of applicants every year? |
| 21:58.45 | lh | then i am confused. what is this about collaboration with ubuntu? |
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| 21:59.02 | lh | arizona: we have those stats, will be publishing later |
| 21:59.10 | arizona | thanks. |
| 21:59.15 | ArthurLiu | well, we tend to have students who would be better suited to ubuntu, and vice versa |
| 21:59.32 | lh | ArthurLiu: ah got it ok. thanks. |
| 21:59.49 | ArthurLiu | #ubuntu-devel [22:59:23] <doko> ArthurLiu: looks like Ubuntu was not accepted this year |
| 21:59.51 | ArthurLiu | wha? |
| 21:59.58 | lh | lynxlynxlynx: ideas list could be more fleshed out |
| 22:00.04 | lh | ArthurLiu: omg. |
| 22:00.11 | lh | ArthurLiu: hang on. |
| 22:00.13 | lynxlynxlynx | lh: you mean more verbose? |
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| 22:00.18 | dreimark | moin |
| 22:00.26 | MatthewWilkes | moin dreimark |
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| 22:00.32 | ArthurLiu | someone should tell them if they are accepted or not.. quick |
| 22:00.47 | kblin | ArthurLiu: they're on the list |
| 22:00.49 | lh | lynxlynxlynx: yes please. also there are some links to the bug tracker which is not exactly what we want to see. issues are good for supporting documentation yes but not only on thier own. |
| 22:00.56 | kblin | ArthurLiu: just not in the default settings |
| 22:01.12 | kblin | ArthurLiu: you need to switch to 100 items per page |
| 22:01.15 | lh | kblin: can you log an issue with the melange team to keep the default org list set to list 500 |
| 22:01.25 | lh | i think a lot of people are getting confused by that. i know i was. |
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| 22:01.46 | lh | lynxlynxlynx: any questions? |
| 22:01.48 | kblin | lh: sure |
| 22:01.55 | kblin | !bugs |
| 22:01.55 | socinfo | "bugs" is Melange bugs are tracked at http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list |
| 22:01.55 | lh | kblin: thank you |
| 22:01.58 | lynxlynxlynx | lh: any other suggestions? |
| 22:02.06 | lynxlynxlynx | did anything else bother you? |
| 22:02.17 | lh | lynxlynxlynx: not really. other than that it was fine. |
| 22:02.33 | lh | MatthewWilkes: anyone else in the queue? |
| 22:02.36 | lynxlynxlynx | ok, see you next year :) |
| 22:02.39 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Nope. ^D |
| 22:02.54 | atagar | lh: Do you know if this year there will be a cheat sheet to the projects? Perhaps a synopsis and the language(s) they use? |
| 22:02.54 | atagar | Last year I remember taking the better part of a day looking that stuff up (with over a hundred projects it took a while)... |
| 22:02.59 | lh | MatthewWilkes: awesome tahnk yo |
| 22:03.11 | bn2vs | lh: just to be sure: is it allowed to do multiple project proposals to one organization? |
| 22:03.17 | MatthewWilkes | lh: I was going to ask about Zope, but I've thought better of it given the number of people that have asked, I'll encourage emails to you later |
| 22:03.20 | lh | atagar: that was community generated last year, i am sure a new one could easily be created based on alex pico's list with the new orgs added |
| 22:03.22 | SRabbelier | wait |
| 22:03.23 | homunq | and probably the whole channel in awe. Much props^H^H^H^H^Hchocolate to lh. |
| 22:03.24 | SRabbelier | there's already a bug filed |
| 22:03.29 | SRabbelier | we will work on a full list :) |
| 22:03.29 | homunq | and google |
| 22:03.34 | SRabbelier | no need to file another one please |
| 22:03.39 | lh | would someone like to volunteer to help alex with that? i can put you in touch with him |
| 22:03.42 | lh | SRabbelier: thank you sir. |
| 22:03.47 | lh | homunq: thanks |
| 22:03.57 | ajuonline | bn2vs: yes, if you are talking about sending multiple proposal/project idea applications to one organisation. |
| 22:04.11 | ArthurLiu | ok the ubuntu people still believe they weren't accepted |
| 22:04.17 | bn2vs | ajuonline: ok, cheers :) |
| 22:04.21 | ojwb | they are on the accepted list |
| 22:04.37 | Lennie | ArthurLiu, they should have received a mail by now :) |
| 22:04.37 | ArthurLiu | well, *I* know |
| 22:04.43 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: why? *eyebrow* |
| 22:04.44 | Lennie | all bounced mails were succefully resend |
| 22:04.46 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: didn't they get an e-mail |
| 22:04.53 | atagar | lh: Currently juggling thesis writing, but I could spare a few hours. |
| 22:05.04 | lh | atagar: rock on thank you |
| 22:05.13 | lh | atagar: email me please and i will hook you up with alex |
| 22:06.19 | lh | ArthurLiu: what channel should i join? |
| 22:06.32 | ArthurLiu | #ubuntu-devel, kblin is already there |
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| 22:07.38 | ajuonline | danderson: the last years students wiki is still up, that you put up? |
| 22:08.09 | danderson | ajuonline: eh? |
| 22:08.26 | ajuonline | danderson: private students wiki? |
| 22:08.49 | danderson | oh |
| 22:08.53 | danderson | I actually have no idea |
| 22:08.59 | ajuonline | ok ./me looks |
| 22:09.03 | danderson | yes, it should be still up |
| 22:09.25 | danderson | looks still up. |
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| 22:09.34 | danderson | yes, it is. |
| 22:09.42 | danderson | I may have to reset the shared password, if people have forgotten it |
| 22:10.01 | danderson | (I certainly have, I log in with my username) |
| 22:10.24 | ajuonline | danderson: if its not much of a pain :) can you push the new credentials to the list whenever you have time. no rush :) |
| 22:10.24 | ArthurLiu | danderson, cotton, code, tshirt... something like that the password ? |
| 22:10.35 | ajuonline | ArthurLiu: we dont speak that here :/ |
| 22:10.43 | anirudh | hey what all HCI related organizations are in this time ? |
| 22:11.27 | danderson | ajuonline: crap, can't do it from here. |
| 22:11.33 | danderson | I have no root on my server from here |
| 22:11.45 | ajuonline | anirudh: there is no such list that categorizes organisations by that. you might want to check the organisations list and ideas page to figure it out, unless someone here can suggest better. |
| 22:11.45 | danderson | Won't have until end of the weekend :( |
| 22:11.46 | SRabbelier | lol @ david |
| 22:11.51 | SRabbelier | danderson: too paranoid! |
| 22:11.58 | ajuonline | danderson: lol :) its ok |
| 22:12.02 | danderson | SRabbelier: no, just too lazy to add my ssh key |
| 22:12.09 | SRabbelier | danderson: hehe :P |
| 22:12.36 | ojwb | isn't there orgbycat? |
| 22:12.39 | ojwb | !orgbycat |
| 22:12.40 | socinfo | "orgbycat" is http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm |
| 22:12.46 | ojwb | that's for 2008 still though |
| 22:12.52 | ojwb | but might give some clues |
| 22:13.04 | danderson | SRabbelier: and I don't want to try to guess the password, because I have denyhosts that bans after 2 unsuccessful attempts :P |
| 22:13.08 | SRabbelier | totally read orgy cat 0.o |
| 22:13.24 | SRabbelier | danderson: lolol, meta-ownage :P |
| 22:13.25 | r0bby | danderson: can I still have access to the wiki since i'm an ex student? |
| 22:13.28 | r0bby | who finished :O) |
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| 22:14.25 | MatthewWilkes | danderson: My ssh key is on a micro SD card attached to my keyring. I get more worried about losing that than the house keys |
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| 22:14.46 | bitner | Just to double check -- I can go back to edit the items I fill in during the organization creation step -- addresses, slots requested etc? |
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| 22:15.04 | kblin | yes |
| 22:15.04 | lh | bitner: yes you can |
| 22:15.08 | bitner | gracias |
| 22:15.40 | SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: is it encrypted? :P |
| 22:15.47 | anirudh | anyone around from BITS Pilani and doing gsoc this time ? |
| 22:15.57 | solydzajs | SRabbelier: don't ignore me on GTalk :P |
| 22:16.59 | SRabbelier | solydzajs: am busy on irc, issue tracker, and other social networks :P |
| 22:17.03 | MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: hehe. has revocation files for my pgp keys on it too, not the key itself though. I'm suddenly worried about leaving them on a table at some event you guys are at⦠|
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| 22:17.20 | SRabbelier | cackles |
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| 22:17.35 | SRabbelier | makes note to take a automated-micro-sd-copier with him |
| 22:18.16 | ojwb | MatthewWilkes: get your belly button pierced and clip it to that |
| 22:18.24 | ojwb | (that was the clean version) |
| 22:18.37 | SRabbelier | ojwb: lol, don't wanna know the other version |
| 22:18.44 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: Well, that would guarantee nobody goes near it ;) (Joke works for all versions, I'd guess) |
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| 22:19.46 | lh | atagar: no attachment my friend |
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| 22:22.04 | hypa7ia | of all the times to have server downtime... grrr |
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| 22:23.49 | daniloaf | is not here |
| 22:23.56 | r0bby | wants to banter :((((( |
| 22:23.57 | freebsdgirl | i saw some adorable sd card clippy earrings. much more sanitary than any of y'all's versions. |
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| 22:25.07 | ojwb | just need to keep an eye on your ears |
| 22:25.16 | MatthewWilkes | freebsdgirl: sd, minisd or microsd? My sister has those silly flesh-tunnel ear-rings. You could keep a compact flash card in those |
| 22:25.22 | r0bby | WHOA |
| 22:25.25 | r0bby | MatthewWilkes is an op now?!?!?! |
| 22:25.31 | r0bby | I gotta behave now :( |
| 22:25.33 | z4chh | !next |
| 22:25.34 | socinfo | "next" is March 18-23: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
| 22:25.39 | khasiv | @freebsdgirl I've seen those, I think that would be a bit over the top, though microSD for sure |
| 22:25.46 | z4chh | where is the mentor list o_o |
| 22:25.48 | MatthewWilkes | lol, don't worry r0bby, it's not a permanent thing, I was just helping out earlier |
| 22:25.49 | z4chh | org |
| 22:26.04 | r0bby | I gotta behave anyways it's been too long people may have had enough |
| 22:26.06 | freebsdgirl | MatthewWilkes: i think these were microsd. |
| 22:26.08 | ojwb | !orglist |
| 22:26.08 | socinfo | "orglist" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 22:26.20 | z4chh | thanks ojwb should of known >.< |
| 22:26.21 | ojwb | socinfo: forget next |
| 22:26.21 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 22:26.24 | r0bby | is discussing potential projects w/ a mentor :) |
| 22:26.40 | ojwb | socinfo: learn next as March 18-23: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 22:26.40 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 22:26.56 | ojwb | z4chh: but good implicit point |
| 22:26.58 | r0bby | dances |
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| 22:27.56 | joszi | ~timeline |
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| 22:28.11 | ojwb | !timeline |
| 22:28.11 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 22:30.51 | atagar | lh: Sorry, busy discussing Firestarter. Didn't you just want my email to put me in touch with Alex? I said I unfortunately didn't have the synopsis from last year so alas, not sure what attachment you mean. |
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| 22:32.59 | SRabbelier | ojwb: thanks :) |
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| 22:33.49 | ojwb | wonders what for |
| 22:33.54 | ojwb | but no problem |
| 22:34.03 | ojwb | oh, updating !next I gues |
| 22:34.04 | ojwb | s |
| 22:34.10 | SRabbelier | ojwb: yup :) |
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| 22:34.24 | c_plus_plus | Is the accepted organizations list still being modified? What do the two separate lists mean? |
| 22:34.48 | Chainsaw | c_plus_plus: Organisations in the first list still need to submit a web form. |
| 22:35.07 | Chainsaw | c_plus_plus: Short & sweet: They're accepted, but the paperwork isn't complete. |
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| 22:35.44 | su|\||\|y | !next |
| 22:35.44 | socinfo | "next" is March 18-23: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 22:42.01 | SRabbelier | c_plus_plus: did you try reading? |
| 22:42.13 | SRabbelier | c_plus_plus: "An overview of accepted organization applications that have not yet created their organization profile." |
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| 22:42.25 | daniloaf | is back |
| 22:42.36 | SRabbelier | socinfo: learn whytwolists as There are two lists on the accepted orgs page because some organizations have not yet created their profile page. |
| 22:42.36 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 22:42.43 | SRabbelier | !whytwolists |
| 22:42.44 | socinfo | "whytwolists" is There are two lists on the accepted orgs page because some organizations have not yet created their profile page. |
| 22:43.35 | z4chh | the two lists are explained on the page :P |
| 22:43.47 | SRabbelier | z4chh: they are |
| 22:44.03 | z4chh | SRabbelier, that your bot? |
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| 22:44.05 | ravenlock | hrm. our Org has no physical address. must I put a valid address at this time? |
| 22:44.06 | Corsix | "An overview of all accepted organizations. " <-- great explanation |
| 22:44.12 | SRabbelier | z4chh: nope, it's our bot :) |
| 22:44.17 | z4chh | google bot? |
| 22:44.25 | SRabbelier | z4chh: gsoc bot :P |
| 22:44.31 | z4chh | ahhh she's nice :) |
| 22:45.54 | SRabbelier | !read |
| 22:45.54 | socinfo | Error: "read" is not a valid command. |
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| 22:47.00 | z4chh | !help |
| 22:47.01 | socinfo | "help" is see !faq, !advice and !wiki |
| 22:47.04 | SRabbelier | socinfo: learn read as Please read the FAQ and documentation (including the information provided to you on the relevant pages) before asking a question. |
| 22:47.04 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 22:47.09 | SRabbelier | !read |
| 22:47.10 | socinfo | "read" is Please read the FAQ and documentation (including the information provided to you on the relevant pages) before asking a question. |
| 22:47.15 | z4chh | what is she coded in? |
| 22:47.21 | SRabbelier | z4chh: no clue :D |
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| 22:47.45 | z4chh | !whatLanguageAreYouCodedInWowThisIsALongCommand |
| 22:47.45 | socinfo | Error: "whatLanguageAreYouCodedInWowThisIsALongCommand" is not a valid command. |
| 22:47.49 | z4chh | worth a try :\ |
| 22:48.12 | SRabbelier | z4chh: lol, it directs to factoids.info, which is expired :P |
| 22:48.14 | kblin | z4chh: ask danderson. I guess |
| 22:48.56 | z4chh | if i were a betting man, id say....perl |
| 22:49.47 | z4chh | then again i may be biased, that's what i think is the most logical language to code a simple irc bot in |
| 22:49.57 | SRabbelier | chuckles |
| 22:50.24 | MatthewWilkes | I think it might be a supybot, i.e. python |
| 22:50.43 | MatthewWilkes | and, ftr, python+twisted rules for irc bots |
| 22:50.54 | [mharrison] | MatthewWilkes, word |
| 22:51.20 | MatthewWilkes | How beautiful is this: http://dev.plone.org/collective/browser/plone.docbot/trunk/plone/docbot/bot.py |
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| 22:52.08 | kaltan | Anyone around (lh?) that can say why the Orocos project was not accepted ? |
| 22:52.20 | zooko | cries quietly in his beer. |
| 22:52.47 | MatthewWilkes | kaltan: The best bet is to email lh on friday, she had office hours earlier today, but has had a long day |
| 22:53.15 | z4chh | python would be my next choice |
| 22:53.19 | MatthewWilkes | kaltan: Something like 25 projects asked for feedback, took a while and a lot of typing |
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| 22:53.53 | kblin | hi mithro. congrats :) |
| 22:54.02 | kaltan | MatthewWilkes: I had expected some kind of eval form the evaluators had to fill out in order to order the proposals |
| 22:54.09 | llnz | waves to kblin |
| 22:54.13 | llnz | congrats too |
| 22:54.19 | Ivanovic | hi kblin |
| 22:54.29 | Ivanovic | kblin: with how many projects are you in this year? |
| 22:54.31 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 22:54.36 | kblin | hi llnz, didn't see you get in :) |
| 22:54.40 | MatthewWilkes | kaltan: It doesn't work that way, generally the answer was that there were more good applications than there were slots |
| 22:54.40 | kblin | Ivanovic: 3 :) |
| 22:54.47 | Ivanovic | kblin: ah, the normal number |
| 22:54.50 | zooko | Everyone who wants to hear about the Tahoe project's schemes to mentor students anyway even though we weren't accepted, please join #tahoe. :-) |
| 22:54.54 | brlcad | Ivanovic: congratulations :) |
| 22:54.59 | brlcad | hugs the gamers |
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| 22:55.12 | llnz | high-fives brlcad |
| 22:55.13 | Ivanovic | hugs the gamers, too |
| 22:55.17 | brlcad | an, llnz you too :) |
| 22:55.19 | kblin | yeah |
| 22:55.23 | kaltan | We had a webserver downtime of about 5 hours... I was a bit fearing that would have happened during our review |
| 22:55.30 | mithro | so who is doing the slashdot announcement? |
| 22:55.37 | brlcad | howdy mithro |
| 22:55.50 | llnz | kblin: i've been here for 3.5 hours |
| 22:56.16 | kaltan | MatthewWilkes: thanks for answering, I'll follow your advice (and the gsoc ml..) |
| 22:56.21 | kblin | llnz: ah, so you probably joined just as I was leaving for my dancing lessons |
| 22:56.50 | llnz | yeah, i think i saw that message |
| 22:57.24 | kblin | I'm really looking forward to this gsoc |
| 22:57.35 | SRabbelier | kblin: me too :) |
| 22:57.46 | kblin | there's three subprojects in WF offering projects this year |
| 22:58.14 | kblin | Erik's doing Ember, of course, Al's around with Cyphesis stuff, and I'm trying to get someone to help me with Wombat |
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| 22:59.12 | kblin | SRabbelier: you're planning on mentoring for Git? |
| 22:59.17 | mordante | hopes somebody will work on Wombat |
| 22:59.19 | SRabbelier | kblin: Melange, actually :) |
| 22:59.33 | llnz | i must make some time to install wombat for TP |
| 22:59.53 | alh | 'Mentoring orgs have been selected!' the main page is not updated, at least not for me. |
| 23:00.01 | SRabbelier | kblin: I'd mentor on Git, but I'm not that experienced with the git codebase at all, I wrote git-statistics and never had the time to port and integrate it with git itself |
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| 23:00.53 | mithro | how many orgs have been selected this year? |
| 23:00.53 | dberkholz | SRabbelier: where can i find that? |
| 23:00.54 | ojwb | alh: |
| 23:00.56 | ojwb | !orgs |
| 23:00.57 | socinfo | "orgs" is categorized 2008 GSoC organizations at http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm |
| 23:00.59 | dberkholz | sounds interesting |
| 23:01.23 | SRabbelier | dberkholz: git stats? or Melange? |
| 23:01.29 | dberkholz | SRabbelier: git stats |
| 23:01.41 | SRabbelier | ojwb: that's otudated though, isn't it? |
| 23:01.45 | z4chh | i think a little less than 150 o.o |
| 23:01.53 | ojwb | oh |
| 23:01.53 | SRabbelier | alh: it's not on the main page |
| 23:01.55 | ojwb | I thought it had been updated |
| 23:02.02 | ojwb | there was a factoid for it |
| 23:02.04 | SRabbelier | ojwb: says 2008 |
| 23:02.09 | ojwb | SRabbelier: thanks for pointing it out |
| 23:02.12 | SRabbelier | ojwb: yeah, can't remember which one |
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| 23:02.23 | ojwb | is there a way to list them? |
| 23:02.29 | SRabbelier | http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 23:02.43 | alh | ok thanks. |
| 23:02.59 | ojwb | !orglist |
| 23:03.00 | socinfo | "orglist" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 23:03.03 | SRabbelier | ah, yes |
| 23:03.04 | ojwb | hurrah for logs |
| 23:03.11 | SRabbelier | ojwb: sweet |
| 23:03.11 | ojwb | socinfo: forget orgs |
| 23:03.11 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 23:03.23 | ojwb | socinfo: learn orgs as http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 23:03.24 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 23:03.24 | SRabbelier | ojwb: can anyone teach socinfo? |
| 23:03.29 | ojwb | I think so |
| 23:03.35 | ojwb | unless you've been banned perhaps |
| 23:03.45 | SRabbelier | nods |
| 23:03.45 | ojwb | some people have more power I think |
| 23:03.54 | r0bby | DO NOT abuse it |
| 23:03.56 | ojwb | oh, and you need to figure out the syntax |
| 23:04.12 | r0bby | abuse it and you f it up for all of us! |
| 23:04.19 | ojwb | indeed |
| 23:04.29 | SRabbelier | r0bby: lol, no need to say that |
| 23:04.37 | ojwb | do not abuse any gsoc-related infrastructure or people |
| 23:04.38 | SRabbelier | r0bby: we're all civilized people here :) |
| 23:04.42 | r0bby | and then you will have a lynchmob of angry programmers outside your door |
| 23:04.45 | r0bby | read: me :) |
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| 23:05.07 | kblin | SRabbelier: right, Melange |
| 23:05.08 | r0bby | ojwb: was it really necessary to mention 'people'? |
| 23:05.10 | BlackMagik | the bot should simply msg us instead of posting it for all to see |
| 23:05.19 | ojwb | r0bby: apparently so... |
| 23:05.19 | garbeam | hi I received an invitation to discuss some clues about the reasons for rejecting our application -- I guess it's just the number of applications? |
| 23:05.32 | kblin | SRabbelier: I have to say I'm really impressed by Melange |
| 23:05.42 | r0bby | Melange is amazing |
| 23:05.44 | Catfish_Man | garbeam: mostly, yes. I would suggest coming back in a while (friday perhaps) and asking LH when she is less swamped |
| 23:05.52 | ojwb | garbeam: lh may be able to say more, but she's already worn out from doing about 30 other orgs |
| 23:06.05 | r0bby | in one year it has made a lot of progress |
| 23:06.31 | garbeam | ok thx, I keep logged in then, will ask on Friday |
| 23:06.36 | alh | garbeam: what is your project? |
| 23:06.48 | garbeam | alh: suckless.org |
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| 23:06.58 | alh | ok, thanks (just curious). |
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| 23:08.17 | scorche | wiggles |
| 23:08.41 | nsquare_ | ? |
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| 23:12.37 | SRabbelier | kblin, r0bby: thank you both |
| 23:12.41 | SRabbelier | it's appreciated :) |
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| 23:15.04 | mithro | http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=3809239 |
| 23:15.28 | SRabbelier | oh dear |
| 23:15.31 | SRabbelier | runs to check traffic |
| 23:15.38 | anothy_x | here comes the flood. |
| 23:15.39 | dreimark | hi, it would be nice if the melange form for "Create a Request to become Mentor " |
| 23:15.42 | SRabbelier | please pleas please don't blow up :P |
| 23:15.47 | dreimark | shows the project lso on th page |
| 23:16.15 | SRabbelier | wishes he added caching to accepted orgs list :( |
| 23:16.34 | SRabbelier | ah well, no use crying over wasted cpu cylces |
| 23:16.50 | dreimark | wants roles |
| 23:17.06 | James--Crook | SRabbelier: CPU time is cheap compared to developer time :-) |
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| 23:17.10 | mithro | SRabbelier: poke? |
| 23:17.24 | MatthewWilkes | James--Crook: Hear, hear. |
| 23:17.27 | SRabbelier | James--Crook: fair enough |
| 23:17.50 | zooko | tries to figure out how to get some of that slashdot crowd to find his unaccepted org's Ideas page... |
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| 23:19.10 | anothy_x | Frist Ideas! |
| 23:19.32 | anothy_x | (sorry) |
| 23:19.43 | zounds | SRabbelier: Am I right in thinking you're at least partially responsible for the list of accepted organisations page? |
| 23:19.52 | Mathiasd1 | 00:15 <@mithro> http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=3809239 |
| 23:19.56 | Mathiasd1 | durpal.org? |
| 23:20.01 | SRabbelier | zounds: fully, actually |
| 23:20.13 | Mathiasd1 | can you still edit that? |
| 23:20.17 | SRabbelier | lol @ Mathiasd1 |
| 23:20.20 | mithro | Mathiasd1: nope! |
| 23:20.22 | SRabbelier | mithro: fail :P |
| 23:20.22 | mitsuhiko | is there a way to get more information why organizations where rejected? |
| 23:20.36 | SRabbelier | mitsuhiko: yes, leslie will hold office hours again this friday afaik |
| 23:20.36 | Catfish_Man | mitsuhiko: talk to LH when she's had a day or two to catch her breath |
| 23:20.49 | SRabbelier | ojwb: is there a factoid for that too? ^_^ |
| 23:20.53 | mitsuhiko | thanks |
| 23:21.03 | r0bby | epic fail |
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| 23:21.20 | zounds | SRabbelier: ah, cool. I've noticed a bug of some sort, could be my browser (firefox) though. When I ctrl+click on a link (to open the link in a new tab) it opens the link in a new tab AND the existing one |
| 23:21.33 | zounds | just though I let you know in case it was something fixable at your end |
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| 23:21.50 | SRabbelier | zounds: yes, I noticed that too |
| 23:21.50 | alh | "We are the MINIX 3 research group at the Vrije Universiteit." <-LMAO |
| 23:21.51 | anothy_x | not your browser. same for safari. but i understand we're talking about it in the wrong place, regardless. |
| 23:22.14 | djc | alh: what's so funny about that? |
| 23:22.18 | SRabbelier | zounds, anothy_x: yes, please let's move to #melange :) |
| 23:22.35 | ojwb | SRabbelier: not that I'm aware of, but it would probably be handy |
| 23:23.18 | SRabbelier | ojwb: if you could :) |
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| 23:23.37 | ojwb | um, anyone can create them you know |
| 23:23.43 | alh | djc: sorry, are you affiliated w/ MINIX? |
| 23:23.46 | ojwb | can't thunk what to call it |
| 23:23.55 | SRabbelier | ojwb: hehe, that's why I asked you, same problem here :P |
| 23:24.09 | djc | alh: I'm not, but I study at the VU |
| 23:24.17 | ojwb | rejected maybe? |
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| 23:24.26 | djc | and I met one of the mentors for MINIX last year at the summit |
| 23:24.44 | ojwb | socinfo: learn rejected as If you want to find out why your org was rejected, ask lh during her "office hours" on friday |
| 23:24.45 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 23:24.46 | Wombert | lh: any feedback on the Agavi application this year? last year it was mostly a non-existant website :) |
| 23:24.56 | ojwb | please feel free to reword |
| 23:24.58 | alh | do you think MINIX will ever be taken seriously? |
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| 23:25.05 | zooko | I'm guessing that the only thing alh knew about MINIX until now was that Linux out-competed it in 1992. |
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| 23:25.30 | alh | zooko: yes. |
| 23:25.34 | thiago_home | MINIX is not meant as a mainstream OS |
| 23:25.42 | thiago_home | but its value as an educational tool is still there |
| 23:26.19 | anothy_x | "taken seriously" by whom, for what? it's neat. i'm glad it's being worked on. doesn't matter that i wouldn't run a fortune 500 on it. |
| 23:26.23 | SRabbelier | ojwb: nice, sweet! |
| 23:26.48 | djc | thiago_home: actually, I think the direction was changed, like two years ago or so |
| 23:27.05 | djc | and since then, they have been working on making it into a serious, micro-kernel based OS |
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| 23:27.31 | ojwb | it's good to have multiple open source kernels |
| 23:27.39 | anothy_x | amen! :-D |
| 23:27.40 | ojwb | it means that new ideas can be tried and compared |
| 23:27.57 | ojwb | and the best get incorporated |
| 23:28.26 | SRabbelier | shameless plug for http://www.chromeexperiments.com/ |
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| 23:28.29 | SRabbelier | looks sweet! |
| 23:28.35 | anothy_x | yup. most of the plan 9 community was pretty psyched to see the v9fs module go mainstream in linux. |
| 23:28.57 | anothy_x | cross-polination is great. |
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| 23:29.14 | kblin | llnz: if you run into any issues with installing wombat, let me know :) |
| 23:29.32 | garbus | Hi people. |
| 23:29.38 | ojwb | and utf-8 comes from plan 9 originally IIRC |
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| 23:30.13 | anothy_x | correct. |
| 23:30.14 | llnz | llnz: I will, when i eventually get to it (because I think i said I'd look at it sometime last year) |
| 23:30.29 | anothy_x | SRabbelier: wow, twitch is pretty impressive. |
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| 23:30.55 | llnz | s/llnz:/kblin:/ |
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| 23:31.09 | lh | zooko: comments. :) |
| 23:31.21 | kblin | llnz: I just switched to a new pylons version that seems to be a bit easier to install |
| 23:31.32 | llnz | kblin: cool |
| 23:31.42 | dberkholz | i just sent a recruitment mail to our lug list |
| 23:31.46 | kblin | llnz: I'm still ironing out the last upgrade errors |
| 23:32.02 | SRabbelier | anothy_x: yes, it does look pretty cool indeed :D |
| 23:32.04 | llnz | lh: big thanks from Thousand Parsec :-) |
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| 23:33.03 | dberkholz | if anyone wants to do something like it, here it is -- http://lists.oregonstate.edu/pipermail/linux/2009-March/003242.html |
| 23:33.17 | lh | Wombert: will do in a moment, taking to someone else atm |
| 23:33.45 | Wombert | thanks lh |
| 23:34.42 | lh | llnz: all good. you guys have done great in the past. |
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| 23:36.38 | lh | mitsuhiko: what organization are you with and what is the URL to your ideas list please? |
| 23:36.41 | lh | Wombert: you're next |
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| 23:36.51 | lh | everyone else, i have to go run errands but will be back online later |
| 23:36.56 | Wombert | lh: superb |
| 23:36.57 | zooko | lh: rejection hurts! I'm sad. Here are our plans to have a Summer of Code anyway: http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/wiki/GSoCIdeas |
| 23:37.02 | zooko | lh: good work! Chat later! |
| 23:37.07 | mitsuhiko | lh: pocoo and http://dev.pocoo.org/projects/zine/wiki/GSOC |
| 23:37.10 | zooko | departs for a Python user group meeting. |
| 23:37.22 | MatthewWilkes | lh: I've been asking people coming into #gsoc-queue to email you later in the week, btw |
| 23:37.37 | lh | MatthewWilkes: thanks, but you can let them know i'll be back online in a few hours and they can message me then. |
| 23:37.45 | lh | i'll be online al evening |
| 23:37.51 | MatthewWilkes | ok |
| 23:39.05 | lh | MatthewWilkes: thank you |
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| 23:39.24 | lh | everyone, thanks. i really appreciate all of you helping to direct traffic and help folks feel the love. |
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| 23:39.44 | r0bby | lh do you ever stop working? |
| 23:40.01 | lh | zooko: i will throw in some t-shirts |
| 23:40.11 | lh | mitsuhiko: looking now |
| 23:40.29 | mitsuhiko | thanks :) |
| 23:40.30 | kblin | r0bby: rarely, I guess |
| 23:40.31 | zooko | lh: :-) Thanks! Chat later! |
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| 23:40.43 | r0bby | lh: bout that google hoodie :) |
| 23:40.58 | r0bby | PS I dug up my soc t-shirt last night :D |
| 23:41.04 | r0bby | it was in the wash |
| 23:41.11 | zooko | "I participated in the Google^H^H^H^H^H^HTahoe Summer of Code and all I got was this lousy t-shirt." |
| 23:41.16 | zooko | laughs. |
| 23:41.17 | lh | mitsuhiko: your ideas list needs improvement, here's a great example of one: http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2009Ideas |
| 23:41.23 | zooko | Okay, I really gotta run. Apparently you do too. Bye! |
| 23:41.27 | mitsuhiko | okay. was afraid of that |
| 23:41.36 | lh | r0bby: not usually no. i need a boyfriend or something i guess. whatever. |
| 23:41.42 | lh | r0bby: later on the hoodie |
| 23:41.49 | mitsuhiko | lh: thanks for the feedback |
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| 23:41.54 | lh | mitsuhiko: you are most welcome. |
| 23:42.03 | lh | mitsuhiko: thank you for being gracious |
| 23:42.09 | kblin | lh: ah, sounds like an idea for the next mentor summit ;) |
| 23:42.22 | lh | kblin: hoodies for the summit? that is a good idea. |
| 23:42.30 | lh | Wombert: ideas list link please |
| 23:42.42 | nsquare | . |
| 23:42.45 | Wombert | lh: http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/GoogleSummerOfCode2009 |
| 23:43.23 | schumaml | I can't find a description for the uses of the street address and city in the extended organization form. Is this mentioned somewhere? |
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| 23:43.34 | Wombert | lh: that also has our application and everything :) |
| 23:44.40 | lh | Wombert: ty |
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| 23:45.20 | kblin | schumaml: it's used so lh knows where to send the ninjas if you don't behave ;) |
| 23:45.23 | lh | Wombert: i am very sorry. you had a great ideas list and application. this is one of those we just cannot accept everyone cases. |
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| 23:45.55 | lh | ok folks ihave errands to run. should be back online in a few hours |
| 23:45.57 | Wombert | hugs lh |
| 23:45.59 | Wombert | thanks! |
| 23:46.01 | lh | until then chill out and feel the love |
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| 23:46.05 | lh | Wombert: thank you for being gracious. |
| 23:46.34 | brlcad | goes a long way :) |
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| 23:46.52 | lh | indeed it does. |
| 23:47.34 | plaes | will there be pages about "why organization/project did not qualify for GSoC?" :P |
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| 23:47.44 | alexu_a | love the new bot |
| 23:47.44 | kblin | plaes: nope |
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| 23:47.55 | nsquare | how many applications were there? |
| 23:48.07 | Wombert | lh: totally :) guess we were close :) will try again next year |
| 23:48.10 | kblin | nsquare: around 400, I think |
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| 23:48.18 | plaes | but would it be possible to know why project "n" was not accepted? |
| 23:48.27 | kblin | !rejected |
| 23:48.27 | socinfo | "rejected" is If you want to find out why your org was rejected, ask lh during her office hours on friday |
| 23:48.34 | kblin | plaes: ^^^ |
| 23:48.52 | alexu_a | wishes we could get one of those bots to keep people from sending tons of e-mails on the list! |
| 23:49.14 | nsquare | [i]ok[/i] |
| 23:49.24 | plaes | where can I get lh's office hours? :P |
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| 23:49.29 | kblin | Wombert: wow, interesting |
| 23:49.41 | kblin | plaes: you can try later today |
| 23:49.48 | plaes | thanks :) |
| 23:49.51 | Wombert | kblin: what exactly? :) |
| 23:50.14 | kblin | Wombert: if I'm ever forced to do a webapp in PHP, I'll have to give agavi a good look |
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| 23:50.26 | Wombert | you should, kblin ;) |
| 23:50.48 | Wombert | I'm secretly hoping for you to do it in python or tho however |
| 23:51.09 | kblin | Wombert: I am |
| 23:51.11 | Wombert | but if it has to be PHP, yes, Agavi is the beacon of hope in that ocean of fail ;) |
| 23:51.12 | brlcad | Wombert: have you talked to the php folks about getting under their umbrella? |
| 23:51.20 | penyaskito | lh, hi! |
| 23:51.22 | Wombert | brlcad: no, I doubt they would do that |
| 23:51.31 | Wombert | given how "infected" PHP is with zend stuff |
| 23:51.44 | kblin | Wombert: it's still worth a try, I guess |
| 23:51.47 | brlcad | if you can find the gsoc folks, I would be surprised if they wouldn't at least hear you out |
| 23:51.47 | Wombert | I don't think they'd accept other frameworks than Zend Framework |
| 23:51.49 | Wombert | yes, true |
| 23:52.04 | ojwb | socinfo: forget rejected |
| 23:52.04 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 23:52.07 | brlcad | gsoc's about community |
| 23:52.21 | brlcad | making it more flexible to other frameworks could even strengthen zend |
| 23:52.34 | brlcad | and helps grow the php community regardless |
| 23:52.36 | ojwb | socinfo: learn rejected as If you want to find out why your org was rejected, ask lh politely when she's around - she should be this evening west coast US time (PST) |
| 23:52.37 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 23:52.44 | arun_ | i read in the faq that students can submit up to 20 applications. if a student wants to submit multiple project ideas to a single mentoring organization, should the student submit multiple proposals? or should the student submit one proposal that collects all their ideas? |
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| 23:53.04 | kblin | Wombert: incidently, I'm working on a tool called Wombat, which is written in python. :)\ |
| 23:53.09 | ojwb | arun: I would talk to the org |
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| 23:53.16 | Wombert | kblin: what does it do |
| 23:53.33 | Wombert | it must be awesome, because wombats are awesome :) |
| 23:53.35 | kblin | Wombert: it's an asset management software |
| 23:53.39 | ojwb | arun: I'd also not regard 20 as a target - 2 or 3 is a sane limit |
| 23:54.07 | llnz | kblin: media asset (mostly) |
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| 23:54.11 | arun_ | thanks, ojwb. i'm actually a mentor. i'm wondering how other organizations are handling this. |
| 23:54.16 | kblin | Wombert: or rather it's currrently a fancy SVN frontend I'm hoping to turn into an asset management software |
| 23:54.24 | kblin | Wombert: yeah. media assets |
| 23:54.30 | Wombert | no kidding, we've been having this joke of porting Agavi to Python, which really is more like a secret desire of everyone rather than a joke |
| 23:54.37 | Wombert | because Python >>>>> PHP |
| 23:54.45 | kblin | full ack there |
| 23:54.54 | ojwb | arun_: oh i see - I don't know, it didn't happen for the org I mentored for last year |
| 23:55.12 | Wombert | otoh, a grown-up quality framework for PHP gives some hope back in that segment |
| 23:55.18 | schumaml | arun_: we prefer if the application is not the first appearance of a student in our community |
| 23:55.19 | kblin | hehe |
| 23:55.19 | Wombert | so that's a good reason to keep going |
| 23:55.28 | kblin | yeah |
| 23:55.34 | Wombert | besides the obvious fact that it'd piss off a lot of people if we abandoned PHP for Python ;) |
| 23:55.58 | kblin | I actually did my first prototype in PHP, and then moved to python because it's really hard to do a clean MVC design in PHP |
| 23:56.06 | schumaml | and discussions on irc, mailing lists or elsewhere should help to get the ideas list of a student focussed on a few viable ones |
| 23:56.11 | kblin | at least if you try to do so from scratch |
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| 23:56.56 | arun_ | schumaml, absolutely. you definitely want them involved beforehand. i'm just wondering how different orgs handle multiple proposals from the same student. |
| 23:57.11 | kblin | arun_: I'd encourage the student to focus on one proposal |
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| 23:57.59 | ojwb | if they're concerned about other better applications, you can always indicate how much interest there is in particular ideas |
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| 23:58.18 | r0bby | kblin: personally if i saw multiple proposals from the same student i'd see that as a red flag |
| 23:58.35 | schumaml | what did other org admins use for the street address in the org form - our own? |
| 23:58.37 | Catfish_Man | r0bby: really? A number of the best students we've seen did that |
| 23:58.40 | ondrej_ | lh: if you have a bit of time, I'd be interested in getting some feedback why the "sympy" application wasn't accepted, so that we can improve in the future. Thanks a lot. |
| 23:58.42 | schumaml | your |
| 23:59.00 | r0bby | I suppose it could be :) |
| 23:59.02 | MatthewWilkes | r0bby: Nah, 2ish would be fine, more than that and you'd be concerned that some were less interesting to them than others |
| 23:59.08 | arun_ | kblin, that definitely makes sense. most projects have a note about quality vs quantity, but i don't want to disallow a student from submitting multiple proposals. |
| 23:59.26 | r0bby | MatthewWilkes: I'd rather see a student SUPER interested in one than see 2 |
| 23:59.26 | ojwb | ondrej_: I think she's running errands |
| 23:59.44 | MatthewWilkes | r0bby: hmm, maybe |
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