IRC log for #gsoc on 20090424

`00:01.11`	`r0bby`	`filters`
`00:01.15`	`jaguarandi`	`r0bby, i worked for blender foundation`
`00:01.19`	`r0bby`	`hopefully w/ names!`
`00:01.21`	`jaguarandi`	`http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=138117&page=2 <= this was the page`
`00:01.31`	`jaguarandi`	`he is using the modifier I did for modelling muscles`
`00:01.44`	`r0bby`	`nice jaguarandi`
`00:01.47`	`r0bby`	`feels amazing :)`
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`00:02.19`	`jaguarandi`	`http://www.jellibots.com <= and this movie used the tool to make the eyes of the bots`
`00:02.45`	`jaguarandi`	`feels great :D`
`00:03.05`	`ajuonline`	`lh: my student id card is damaged a bit. which I sent last year. right now, i got a letter which states my enrollment dates etc and dates of it in a letter, which i got last month to produce to immigration, when I made a trip to Colombo. OK to scan and send that?`
`00:03.19`	`lh`	`ajuonline: yes.`
`00:03.25`	`thebolt`	`hi lh`
`00:04.06`	`jaguarandi`	`ajuonline, did lh/google already started asking for proof of enrollment?`
`00:04.32`	`ArthurLiu`	`jaguarandi, no, be patient, you'll have plenty of instructions when needed`
`00:04.37`	`r0bby`	`all done :)`
`00:04.37`	`ajuonline`	`jaguarandi: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentinfo`
`00:04.40`	`r0bby`	`filtered :)`
`00:05.21`	`ajuonline`	`the students have been added to the list?`
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`00:06.27`	`ajuonline`	`ok. dont think so. the old students introducing themselves :)`
`00:07.51`	`ajuonline`	`jaguarandi: the announcements have not been made. so hang on that document is likely being just written as we speak.`
`00:08.00`	`r0bby`	`lh: can I use the same tax form as last year? :x`
`00:10.02`	`jaguarandi`	`ajuonline, i was just afraid I had missed something :p`
`00:10.05`	`jaguarandi`	`gets back to code`
`00:10.17`	`ajuonline`	`jaguarandi: sorry for that :) good luck ;)`
`00:11.11`	`ajuonline`	`lol`
`00:11.23`	`ajuonline`	`"thank you for the bug report"`
`00:11.50`	`r0bby`	`anybody wanna adopt a r0bby?`
`00:12.05`	`r0bby`	`I'm well behaved!`
`00:14.54`	`ArthurLiu`	`oh, introduction thread madness has started`
`00:15.25`	`ajuonline`	`yeah`
`00:15.26`	`ajuonline`	`:P`
`00:15.35`	`ajuonline`	`and it seems the adding has started as well :P`
`00:15.48`	`ajuonline`	`iirc, it was done the same day results were out?`
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`00:16.01`	`ajuonline`	`^5's mithro`
`00:17.13`	`lh`	`r0bby: no.`
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`00:18.15`	`thebolt`	`lh: on r0bbys first or second question? ;) (i am guessing it applies to both though) ;-)`
`00:18.36`	`summatusmentis`	`I really should fix my gmail filters`
`00:21.39`	`r0bby`	`lh: heh new W9 every year.. :/`
`00:22.01`	`r0bby`	`summatusmentis: i filtereed`
`00:22.18`	`summatusmentis`	`I should`
`00:22.35`	`r0bby`	`Part of my plan to not flood the list: filter all annoying threads`
`00:23.12`	`danderson`	`french pizza-eating FOSS metalhead, less than 1h away from my hometown`
`00:23.16`	`danderson`	`this thread is made of win`
`00:24.19`	`ArthurLiu`	`danderson, you speak quebecois ?`
`00:26.08`	`danderson`	`ArthurLiu: I mutter it, but I speak real french :P`
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`00:26.28`	`r0bby`	`danderson: that's amazing`
`00:26.30`	`r0bby`	`I love that guy`
`00:26.37`	`Corsix`	`lh: ping, pm?`
`00:26.55`	`ArthurLiu`	`I hope so, because I have serious trouble processing fr_QC :D`
`00:28.11`	`lh`	`Corsix: make it fast have to leave in seconds`
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`00:30.17`	`MatthewWilkes`	`http://w2.brreg.no/enhet/sok/detalj.jsp?orgnr=979829299 <-- awesome company name!`
`00:30.53`	`bobmcw_`	`MatthewWilkes: wait, I own the trademark on "UPDATE TAXRATE" as a company name`
`00:30.55`	`*** topic/#gsoc by lh -> Students added to mailing list - Problems with your sub? Email LH and be patient for response please - Tax forms, proof of enrollment, etc. questions answered on that list - Results are on the website - Community Bonding Period now- Read the GSoC 2009 Site User's Guide http://tinyurl.com/gsoc09userguide - This channel is logged (!logs)`
`00:31.18`	`bobmcw_`	`I also own the "tuning my guitar" song copyright`
`00:31.40`	`ArthurLiu`	`MatthewWilkes, amazing :D`
`00:32.08`	`Raim`	`Little Bobby Tables, Inc.? ;)`
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`00:40.06`	`ajuonline`	`heh, I sent mail as well :D`
`00:41.04`	`ajuonline`	`this is lovely :)`
`00:41.15`	`ajuonline`	`same ime of the year again ;-)`
`00:41.17`	`ajuonline`	`time*`
`00:42.00`	`Landon`	`I always find it interesting`
`00:42.05`	`Landon`	`how people reply off of random messages`
`00:42.30`	`ajuonline`	`of course - you did read all of the emails.`
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`00:43.03`	`ajuonline`	`and yeah - top posting :D`
`00:43.27`	`Landon`	`whoops`
`00:43.30`	`Landon`	`I did just read them all`
`00:43.43`	`Landon`	`I'm totally for top posting`
`00:43.50`	`Landon`	`although`
`00:43.52`	`Landon`	`the ideal client`
`00:43.57`	`Landon`	`magics them either way`
`00:44.01`	`Landon`	`I cans see the value in both`
`00:44.07`	`Landon`	`if I've already read the whole thread, which I have`
`00:44.12`	`Landon`	`I want to see whats going on at the top`
`00:44.14`	`Landon`	`the fresh stuff`
`00:44.18`	`jasebo`	`Landon: I am soo with you, I'm so tired of scrolling all the way to to the bottom`
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`00:44.30`	`Landon`	`if Iw as just joining`
`00:44.33`	`ajuonline`	`jaguarandi: he just top posted as well.`
`00:44.35`	`Landon`	`I'd want to see it on the bottom`
`00:44.35`	`Landon`	`but`
`00:44.39`	`Landon`	`I already read all the messages`
`00:44.40`	`Landon`	`:)`
`00:44.41`	`ajuonline`	`sorry that was for jasebo`
`00:45.00`	`ajuonline`	`hi jason :)`
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`00:47.13`	`jaguarandi`	`:p`
`00:48.14`	`jasebo`	`hi :)`
`00:48.44`	`jasebo`	`I do all my emailing backwards anyway, so top posting just fits my mind better`
`00:49.07`	`ajuonline`	`jasebo: all set for the lemon fresh summer :P`
`00:49.12`	`jasebo`	`sure am`
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`00:50.37`	`ArthurLiu`	`interestingly, there are five students from my school who got into GSoC, I think it's quite high, especially considering we only have about 300 eligible students..`
`00:50.52`	`jasebo`	`which school ArthurLiu?`
`00:51.01`	`ajuonline`	`2 from my school. including me.`
`00:51.05`	`ArthurLiu`	`ENSIMAG, in France`
`00:51.20`	`ajuonline`	`i did make a bunch of them apply.`
`00:51.29`	`ArthurLiu`	`Computer Science & Applied Mathematics`
`00:51.31`	`ajuonline`	`gave a talk at my own school`
`00:51.34`	`jasebo`	`5 seems like a lot from one school`
`00:51.52`	`jasebo`	`I wonder if there'll be a school ranking in the statistics`
`00:52.01`	`ajuonline`	`jasebo: umm, when the official stats are out, you will see more.`
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`00:52.11`	`ajuonline`	`jasebo: of course they will :) did you check the last year's top 10 ?`
`00:52.35`	`ArthurLiu`	`they should divide by the number of eligible students :D`
`00:53.28`	`ajuonline`	`jasebo: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/04/two-top-10s-for-google-summer-of-code.html`
`00:53.42`	`ajuonline`	`last year we had 1125 slots.`
`00:54.03`	`jasebo`	`thanks ajuonline :)`
`00:54.07`	`loufoque`	`as a student outside of the united states, all I need to send to google is a proof of enrollment in my university and the Foreign Certification Form?`
`00:54.59`	`ajuonline`	`loufoque: yes`
`00:57.05`	`loufoque`	`thanks`
`00:57.41`	`loufoque`	`I was afraid I may have had to fill in tax forms specific to my country`
`00:57.56`	`ajuonline`	`loufoque: no.`
`00:58.05`	`ajuonline`	`not for sending to google.`
`00:58.21`	`ajuonline`	`they want us to send in that one pdf :P filled up`
`00:58.32`	`ajuonline`	`along with the proof of enrollment.`
`00:58.42`	`nixbox`	`do I have to turn in proof of enrollment and tax forms three times, that is, for each payment?`
`00:58.57`	`ajuonline`	`nixbox: just once.`
`00:59.40`	`nixbox`	`ajuonline, oh, so, the dates they have in the document are for those who failed to do it the first time and then want to get their second payment on time? etc.`
`01:00.30`	`ajuonline`	`nixbox: yeah. you dont get paid, unless you send in those documents.`
`01:00.55`	`loufoque`	`ArthurLiu: how did you know five students from your school got accepted?`
`01:01.30`	`ArthurLiu`	`crossed the gsoc accepted students list with my school's students-list`
`01:01.51`	`ArthurLiu`	`and asked around :)`
`01:02.21`	`jaguarandi`	`ArthurLiu, where is the list of students?`
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`01:02.40`	`ArthurLiu`	`I posted a bash command earlier`
`01:02.45`	`jaguarandi`	`*the gsoc's ones (not from your school xD)`
`01:03.31`	`loufoque`	`I guess you can just check each organization page and extract the accepted students`
`01:03.42`	`jaguarandi`	`thats booring :p`
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`01:03.47`	`ajuonline`	`or use ArthurLiu's code that just does that.`
`01:03.48`	`loufoque`	`you'd have to really want to have the list though to write a script that does it`
`01:04.08`	`loufoque`	`or be bored`
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`01:10.52`	`sandy\|lurk`	`lh: should I sent that "ex-students still on list" email now?`
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`01:11.28`	`ArthurLiu`	`sandy\|lurk, why not wait for the introduction thread to calm off a bit ?`
`01:11.38`	`ArthurLiu`	`it hasn't even really started yet :)`
`01:12.05`	`sandy\|lurk`	`ArthurLiu: the point is to make sure students know there might be mentors on the list`
`01:12.10`	`loufoque`	`way to be spammed, that introduction thread`
`01:12.53`	`sandy\|lurk`	`resolves to wait a bit`
`01:13.22`	`ArthurLiu`	`was there a mentors outing thread last year ?`
`01:13.50`	`ArthurLiu`	`I didn't notice it :o`
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`01:13.56`	`loufoque`	`ArthurLiu: two consecutives GSoCs? You're lucky.`
`01:14.01`	`loufoque`	`-s`
`01:14.04`	`ArthurLiu`	`nah, I'm org admin this year`
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`01:15.01`	`sandy\|lurk`	`ArthurLiu: every year, yeah`
`01:18.47`	`ArthurLiu`	`what was the title of the thread ?`
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`01:30.18`	`gaurdro`	`It is hoppin' in here...`
`01:30.41`	`omniter`	`yarly`
`01:31.02`	`omniter`	`i keep getting emails everytime someone replies to the introductions thread -_-`
`01:31.16`	`omniter`	`how do i unsubscribe without unsubscribing from the whole list itself?`
`01:32.01`	`dho`	`At least on the mentors list that was moved into the wiki.`
`01:33.17`	`hypa7ia`	`omniter: in options you can turn email off. you can't unsubscribe from a single thread`
`01:33.25`	`omniter`	`awwwww`
`01:33.27`	`omniter`	`okay`
`01:33.37`	`omniter`	`i'll keep it on then`
`01:33.37`	`ojwb`	`you can add a filter for it, depending on your mailer`
`01:34.02`	`danderson`	`omniter: if you use gmail, select the conversation and press 'm' to mute it (to get no further responses)`
`01:34.14`	`danderson`	`in other mail clients, I'm not sure`
`01:37.01`	`omniter`	`ohhhhh`
`01:37.07`	`omniter`	`thank you :)`
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`01:39.59`	`r0bby`	`AGH`
`01:40.17`	`r0bby`	`goes to add _MORE_ filters`
`01:40.22`	`omniter`	`performs CPR on r0bby`
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`01:41.27`	`r0bby`	`this tool didnt even use a subject`
`01:41.29`	`r0bby`	`:\|`
`01:43.03`	`omniter`	`do we email all our documents under the subject TAX FORMS ?`
`01:43.03`	`danderson`	`r0bby: subjects are for loosers`
`01:43.13`	`omniter`	`like in one email?`
`01:43.27`	`danderson`	`real men SHOUT their message with BODY, no SUBJECT is required when you're AWESOME!`
`01:43.33`	`danderson`	`(also, use brawndo!)`
`01:43.33`	`omniter`	`including the foreign thing and the proof of enrollment?`
`01:46.23`	`r0bby`	`subjects make it easier to filter`
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`01:47.10`	`r0bby`	`I doubt anybody will bother to read`
`01:47.31`	`r0bby`	`just pissed he can't filter this easier`
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`01:52.14`	`Landon`	`dang`
`01:52.17`	`Landon`	`got all excited`
`01:52.21`	`Landon`	`someone said they were from ksu`
`01:52.24`	`Landon`	`they were... the OTHER ksu`
`01:52.25`	`Landon`	`:(`
`01:54.19`	`omniter`	`anyone up for some rounds of CS SOURCE?! :D`
`01:54.24`	`omniter`	`(probably not)`
`01:55.19`	`Landon`	`don't have it`
`01:55.19`	`Landon`	`:)`
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`01:55.24`	`Landon`	`I'm all bummed after some left4dead`
`01:55.27`	`omniter`	`awww`
`01:55.29`	`Landon`	`new mode is kind of a letdown`
`01:56.10`	`omniter`	`you know what sucks? i worked for months on a CS:S map. it was a zelda map. Lost Woods from Ocarina of Time. then when i reformatted my computer, i forgot about it, and now it's gone.`
`01:56.12`	`omniter`	`it was 99% done`
`01:56.29`	`Landon`	`heh`
`01:56.36`	`omniter`	`it was freaking beautiful. imagine a realistic version of the lost woods...`
`01:56.49`	`omniter`	`i had soundscapes and leaves rustling and everything. it was accurate too :(`
`01:56.55`	`omniter`	`and the logs were teleports!`
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`01:57.27`	`omniter`	`i'll never make a better map :(`
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`02:11.41`	`skbohra`	`that's so sad :(`
`02:11.52`	`omniter`	`i know :(`
`02:12.00`	`omniter`	`i thought it might be too depressing to remake it`
`02:12.18`	`omniter`	`because i made it just the way i wanted it the first time. and the second time through ... sob`
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`02:12.36`	`omniter`	`but i still feel like i should remake it for great justice`
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`02:13.50`	`koryk`	`omg introduction thread`
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`02:26.30`	`joeyadams`	`Are mentors on the GSoC students list?`
`02:26.43`	`summatusmentis`	`I don't believe so`
`02:26.57`	`summatusmentis`	`although possibly if it's a mentor who used to be a student`
`02:27.14`	`Landon`	`yes, there are a few`
`02:27.23`	`Landon`	`there was a premature post on it`
`02:27.32`	`Landon`	`and will probably be one after the intro thread dies down`
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`02:36.30`	`Robin`	`hi,guys`
`02:36.38`	`Landon`	`hi`
`02:36.53`	`Robin`	`Is it google summer of code 2009 here?`
`02:37.05`	`Landon`	`indeed indeed`
`02:37.39`	`Robin`	`Do you contact with your mentors?`
`02:38.44`	`summatusmentis`	`I'm always idling in my channel`
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`02:38.54`	`summatusmentis`	`s/channel/orgs channel/`
`02:39.27`	`Landon`	`whaaaaaaaat, thisfish is climbing up a wall!`
`02:39.28`	`omniter`	`oh what the hell... you can do that?`
`02:39.31`	`Landon`	`I call shenanigans`
`02:39.35`	`omniter`	`s/hell/heck/`
`02:39.42`	`omniter`	`HEY!!! that's awesome :D`
`02:40.36`	`Landon`	`thinks Planet Earth was filmed on the moon or something`
`02:40.38`	`ojwb`	`Robin: read this:`
`02:40.40`	`ojwb`	`!anyone`
`02:40.40`	`socinfo`	`"anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009`
`02:40.57`	`summatusmentis`	`Landon: Planet Earth is awesome :)`
`02:41.09`	`Landon`	`it is`
`02:41.22`	`Robin`	`Oh`
`02:41.33`	`Robin`	`I can not wait to do the project.`
`02:41.53`	`omniter`	`don't. start right away. :)`
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`02:42.27`	`Robin`	`Where are you from?`
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`02:46.27`	`skbohra`	`does introduction thread makes any sense`
`02:47.57`	`Robin`	`I recieved many emails today`
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`02:50.23`	`ojwb`	`skbohra: I don't quite follow the rationale for it - it's not like many people are going to read 999 emails, but I guess you might want to search it later or something.`
`02:50.43`	`ojwb`	`thankfully the mentor introduction thread got redirected to a wiki early on this year`
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`02:52.22`	`skbohra`	`that make a sense :)`
`02:54.31`	`skbohra`	`s/make/makes`
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`03:11.36`	`ravenlock`	`lh: ty. Our missing person has arrived. :)`
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`03:34.34`	`abii`	`anyone from singapore doing gsoc?`
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`03:38.40`	`literal`	`hm, the link to the "Foreign Certification Form" on the "Accepted student information" page is broken`
`03:39.13`	`literal`	`says it's a pdf form, but directs me to a page saying "The page you navigated to does not exist." --> http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list/web/student_foreign_certification_gsoc_2009.pdf?hl=en`
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`03:49.12`	`literal`	`found a working link to it in one of lh's replies to the student's list, though`
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`03:53.12`	`dqminh`	`hi abii , i'm from nus`
`04:03.19`	`abii`	`dqminh: hey! i was from nus high`
`04:03.31`	`abii`	`did a couple of modules at nus, too.`
`04:03.46`	`abii`	`so what you working on?`
`04:04.46`	`dqminh`	`abii: i'm working for Limesurvey with the Statistic package.`
`04:05.31`	`dqminh`	`abii: will you be interested in having a meetup for GSOCer in Singapore soon ? Are you having exam now ?`
`04:05.54`	`abii`	`dqminh: ah, cool.`
`04:05.59`	`abii`	`yep, sure, that would be fun`
`04:06.16`	`abii`	`no, i'm not in school anymore. waiting to go into uni later this year.`
`04:06.33`	`dqminh`	`abii: hehe. yah. I will post a message to the list later today.`
`04:06.36`	`abii`	`how many GSOCers from sinagpore?`
`04:06.37`	`dqminh`	`abii: which uni ?`
`04:07.04`	`abii`	`dqminh: stanford, most likely.`
`04:07.07`	`dqminh`	`abii: not really sure . about 5 in NUS. The rest i dont know`
`04:07.32`	`dqminh`	`abii: nice ;)`
`04:08.05`	`abii`	`:D`
`04:08.18`	`abii`	`but so expensive compared to NUS.`
`04:08.35`	`dqminh`	`its way better :p`
`04:08.38`	`abii`	`5's not too bad i guess. what are the rest of the projects about?`
`04:09.08`	`abii`	`well, its really a tradeoff between money and... . but NUS is pretty good too. at least, some of the profs.`
`04:09.25`	`dqminh`	`abii: haha i'm not remember. http://groups.google.com/group/nusgsoc , we have a google group too`
`04:09.28`	`abii`	`you a CS major?`
`04:09.37`	`dqminh`	`abii: no , IS major`
`04:09.51`	`abii`	`IS is also SOC?`
`04:10.03`	`dqminh`	`abii: yah ;)`
`04:10.06`	`abii`	`anyway, let me know join that group. :)`
`04:10.17`	`abii`	`i have @nus.edu.sg email :P`
`04:10.22`	`dqminh`	`:p`
`04:10.38`	`dqminh`	`abii: you may want to join #linuxnus channel too :p`
`04:10.58`	`abii`	`yep, thanks.`
`04:11.07`	`abii`	`i'm working on the mozilla project`
`04:11.43`	`summatusmentis`	`whoa, traffic here`
`04:12.10`	`abii`	`summatusmentis: nah, mostly just a dialogue.`
`04:13.55`	`summatusmentis`	`well, whatever, there is evidence of people :)`
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`04:20.17`	`Upthorn`	`huh`
`04:20.29`	`Upthorn`	`I still haven't been invited to the gsoc student list`
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`04:25.19`	`gento_`	`yo`
`04:25.28`	`gento_`	`anyone from Malaysia?`
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`04:31.08`	`skbohra`	`is it ok to give a news piece in local news paper about gsoc selection, I am bit confuesed`
`04:31.35`	`skbohra`	`s/confuesed/confused`
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`04:57.19`	`andguent`	`is there any country specific information on tax forms? i am doing everything in germany and being a bit puzzled what to do. is there a german contact for gsoc stuff?`
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`05:06.47`	`Landon`	`is it odd that I find the Planet Earth Diaries omre exciting than Planet Earth`
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`05:08.06`	`pygi`	`lh, you can just go around and confirm what I say :p`
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`05:16.30`	`devilsadvocate`	`was there an email sent to students on the private mailing list from lh that had information or something?`
`05:16.47`	`pygi`	`devilsadvocate, what kind of info are you after?`
`05:17.03`	`devilsadvocate`	`general info, tax stuff, whatever`
`05:17.15`	`pygi`	`you should've gotten a mail when you were added to list`
`05:17.15`	`devilsadvocate`	`i seem to getting only some emails from the list for some reason`
`05:17.20`	`devilsadvocate`	`i didnt :\`
`05:17.36`	`pygi`	`devilsadvocate, just checks on google groups then :)`
`05:17.47`	`devilsadvocate`	`wonders if his institutes spam filter is acting up`
`05:18.17`	`devilsadvocate`	`im trying to log in there, but it seems my gmail account is not authorized. trying to get my other account to work now`
`05:18.23`	`okidogi`	`wonders what is printed name mean exactly`
`05:19.25`	`pygi`	`okidogi, say if you're chinese`
`05:19.37`	`pygi`	`you want your name printed in the way you usually write :)`
`05:19.40`	`pygi`	`and not in english`
`05:19.41`	`pygi`	`figured? :)`
`05:20.01`	`okidogi`	`pygi: yes, thanks. Can it be anyway I like?`
`05:20.19`	`pygi`	`okidogi, hm, kinda, yes. Why? You want it to be "The Duck" ? :)`
`05:20.51`	`skbohra`	`I thought it be the same on your official documents`
`05:21.10`	`okidogi`	`pygi: Just curious :)`
`05:21.40`	`pygi`	`okidogi, where do you see printed name anyway? :D`
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`05:22.03`	`okidogi`	`pygi: In the foreign certification form.`
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`05:22.09`	`pygi`	`ah`
`05:22.42`	`pygi`	`ok, that one should probably be as in your official docs`
`05:23.07`	`pygi`	`skbohra, ye ye, I thought he was talking only that final certificate google issues :p`
`05:23.23`	`okidogi`	`pygi: Sure.`
`05:24.19`	`okidogi`	`pygi: btw, should it some sort of printed name or handwritten?`
`05:24.42`	`pygi`	`okidogi, I've always filled that thing by hand, and ten scan it`
`05:25.10`	`okidogi`	`pygi: That's a good idea.`
`05:25.19`	`pygi`	`s/ten/then/`
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`05:25.35`	`pygi`	`woot, cool!`
`05:26.15`	`okidogi`	`pygi: ah, ibot... What's this mean...`
`05:26.29`	`pygi`	`okidogi, nothings, it's a bot :)`
`05:26.41`	`pygi`	`he parsed my "s/ten/then" and wrote corrected sentence :)`
`05:26.44`	`okidogi`	`pygi: some sort of cute ~`
`05:27.18`	`pygi`	`anymore gsoc-related questions or can I go? :p`
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`05:27.58`	`okidogi`	`wave goodbye to pygi`
`05:28.06`	`pygi`	`bye :)`
`05:28.37`	`skbohra`	`:) ojwb`
`05:28.42`	`skbohra`	`oops`
`05:29.02`	`skbohra`	`that was for pygi`
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`06:04.24`	`mib_txaxt1`	`hello. I specified a non-gmail email addess in the gsoc web application. Now I am subscribed to the students mailing list on that non-gmail email address. How can I change my subscribtion options?`
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`07:09.32`	`haoyu`	`Hi, any Chinese GSoC mentors here?`
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`07:13.55`	`skbohra`	`why there is so much buzz about country :)`
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`07:16.21`	`haoyu`	`skbohra, because we want meetup :)`
`07:16.26`	`skiquel`	`=]`
`07:16.51`	`skiquel`	`is china happy place?`
`07:17.05`	`skbohra`	`haoyu: well in that case, fair enough, China is too large, I guess :)`
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`07:23.16`	`ajuonline`	`heh I posted about India as well :P`
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`07:31.40`	`lut4rp`	`wonders if he should wait some more time for the invite, or drop the mail`
`07:31.58`	`skiquel`	`lut4rp: to the google group?`
`07:32.08`	`lut4rp`	`skiquel, yes, the students group`
`07:32.32`	`skiquel`	`looks at topic`
`07:32.46`	`skiquel`	`yeah you probably want to send an e-mail and wait`
`07:32.54`	`skiquel`	`because the group has a lot of the important FAQ's in it`
`07:32.55`	`lut4rp`	`Hmm`
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`07:39.47`	`LimmON`	`Russia hello! Is there someone else? =)`
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`07:45.26`	`ajuonline`	`lut4rp: send a mail already. all students have been added.`
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`07:47.00`	`lut4rp`	`wokay`
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`07:50.18`	`estan`	`hey i'm a student in sweden, am i reading the student info right in that Google does not want any physical documents sent to them, i can just send a scanned copy of the signed tax form and my proof of enrollment?`
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`07:51.47`	`estan`	`and will a photograph with my 5 megapixel camera do? ;)`
`07:53.33`	`lut4rp`	`:)`
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`07:55.50`	`ajuonline`	`estan: where did they ask for a pic? ;)`
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`07:57.02`	`estan`	`ajuonline: well for the tax form they outright say that they prefer a scanned copy; http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentinfo#How_to_Return_Forms_to_Google_32460897634151975`
`07:57.25`	`estan`	`ajuonline: but for the proof of enrollment i'm a bit unsure; http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentinfo#Proof_of_Enrollment_32699124570153504`
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`07:57.30`	`ajuonline`	`estan: oh right. i thought you were going to click your own photograph :P`
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`07:58.19`	`estan`	`they list what constitutes a valid proof of enrollment, and they mention a scalled copy of your student card.. but they don't say if a scanned copy of a course transcript is valid.`
`07:58.25`	`estan`	`*scanned.`
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`07:59.32`	`ajuonline`	`estan: the only thing you need to be prove is were you entolled to a University course as on April 20, 2009.`
`07:59.38`	`ajuonline`	`so if that document does that. it should be fine.`
`08:00.56`	`estan`	`yes, i was just thinking if they want me to send a physical document or if a scanned copy is okay.`
`08:01.17`	`estan`	`(for a student ID, they say scanned is fine, but for course transcript it doesn't say..)`
`08:01.26`	`estan`	`i guess scanned is OK right?`
`08:02.18`	`estan`	`i mean, as there's no psysical address in all of the student info at the site, i guess they want everything on e-mail (or fax).`
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`08:02.45`	`LawnGnome`	`estan: When I was a student a couple of years ago, I sent a copy of my enrolment data (the units I was enrolled in and that they were for that semester) from the on-line enrolment system my uni uses and had no problem.`
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`08:04.45`	`estan`	`LawnGnome: yea, i saw someone asked about that very thing on the student mailing list and leslie said it was okay, but i was unsure if she meant it was okay to make a printout from the online enrollment system and send it by snail mail, or if it was enough to e-mail it.. now i know. thanks!`
`08:05.08`	`estan`	`i have my acceptance letter here so i guess i just need to photograph it and e-mail it.`
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`08:05.37`	`LawnGnome`	`estan: I faxed it, for the record, but an e-mailed scan would also be fine, AIUI.`
`08:06.08`	`LawnGnome`	`Honestly, the hardest part in the whole thing was finding a fax machine. :P`
`08:06.25`	`ajuonline`	`i used online fax service :D`
`08:06.36`	`ajuonline`	`its good they accept emails/scanned copy`
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`08:07.13`	`estan`	`:)`
`08:08.01`	`ajuonline`	`estan: this time email is enough:D`
`08:08.09`	`ajuonline`	`fax was a PITA for some :P`
`08:08.54`	`runasand`	`so, just to be clear; can I just scan my student id-card (as proof of enrollment)? :)`
`08:09.23`	`ajuonline`	`runasand: yeah`
`08:09.33`	`ajuonline`	`did that last year`
`08:10.04`	`ajuonline`	`my id had the dates mentioned though.`
`08:10.11`	`ajuonline`	`start/end of enrollment.`
`08:11.01`	`runasand`	`I have a card that goes with the student id saying that I am a student at the uni during spring 2009`
`08:11.17`	`LawnGnome`	`runasand: That would be fine, I'd say.`
`08:11.24`	`runasand`	`yay, good :)`
`08:11.44`	`LawnGnome`	`mutters about his uni using perpetual student cards without dates and making his life more difficult -- although at least I've managed to keep the card that has a good photo of me for a few years.`
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`08:13.27`	`ajuonline`	`iwikiwi: hello eye-wee-kee-wee`
`08:14.06`	`iwikiwi`	`ajuonline: dont stare at the channel man! :p`
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`08:23.28`	`ajuonline`	`iwikiwi: :P`
`08:23.32`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: O HAII :P`
`08:24.01`	`gurkee`	`i like to get emails from the internal group. but not all of them. is there a way to filter out e.g. the "introductions thread" using google groups webinterface? or do i have to filter it out using my email client?`
`08:24.17`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: I brings greetinz from teh ceiling cat ...`
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`08:25.20`	`ajuonline`	`:P`
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`08:26.43`	`skiquel`	`hai all`
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`08:28.03`	`estan`	`ajuonline: did they use the same payment method last year? in the student info it says they'll be using "stored value cards", i'm not sure what that is.. some kind of check that i take to my bank?`
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`08:28.55`	`estan`	`(when i've done contract work for a .eu country based firm in the past, i've always gotten payed through bank transfer with IBAN).`
`08:30.11`	`ajuonline`	`estan: its a credit card. which you can use as an ATM as well.`
`08:30.14`	`runasand`	`estan: afaik it's a credit card`
`08:30.18`	`ajuonline`	`writhdraw cash from any ATM.`
`08:30.54`	`estan`	`ah, i see. and the exchange rate will be that of the credit card company (visa? mastercard?)`
`08:31.07`	`ajuonline`	`bank i guess`
`08:31.17`	`estan`	`right. okay.`
`08:32.31`	`MaNI`	`at what bank is the credit card?`
`08:33.20`	`estan`	`i guess he means it will be at the exchange rate of the bank that has the ATM where you do the withdrawal?`
`08:33.46`	`estan`	`off to school bbl.`
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`08:37.27`	`ajuonline`	`estan: yes.`
`08:44.03`	`ochot`	`lh: I have a problem with Google Groups apparently, web interface thinks I am not "in" the group. Interesting part is that emails from you are not coming, but replies from other students are. Never experienced something like that before...`
`08:45.04`	`ajuonline`	`ochot: something that should be emailed to lh. everyone is sleeping in that part of the world ;)`
`08:46.35`	`ochot`	`yeah, right...I solved the puzzle anyway`
`08:46.43`	`ochot`	`ajuonline: thx anyway`
`08:46.58`	`ajuonline`	`:)`
`08:48.24`	`runasand`	`hm.. so.. I live in Norway but I am planning on spending the summer in London. Do I have to pay tax to both Norway and the UK?`
`08:48.45`	`runasand`	`I'm trying to figure out if that goes for everyone or just for those living in the US but spending their summer somewhere else.`
`08:50.08`	`ajuonline`	`runasand: Google only worries about it, if you work on SoC from US Soils.`
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`09:01.08`	`BigBambi`	`runasand: Also, I pretty sure that the UK and Norway will have a reciprocal tax agreement, where you don't pay tax twice`
`09:01.17`	`BigBambi`	`*I'm`
`09:01.51`	`ajuonline`	`there you go :) runasand ^`
`09:02.33`	`runasand`	`:)`
`09:02.45`	`runasand`	`BigBambi: yeah, I was thinking that too. UK being in the EU and all.`
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`09:03.55`	`BigBambi`	`I don't know mind you, I'd just be surprised if they don't - most EU countries do, but Norway not being in the EU might make it a little different`
`09:04.19`	`runasand`	`BigBambi: I'd say that Norway got one foot in the EU :p`
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`09:05.17`	`ochot`	`Anyone knows how can I login to Google Groups with my Google Apps for Domains account? I don't see a way to do that...`
`09:05.20`	`BigBambi`	`"The bilateral treaty between the Government of the Kingdom of Norway and the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and capital was amended on the 12 October 2000."`
`09:05.34`	`Egis`	`runasand: If your income doesn't reach 6,475 Pounds a year, you don't have to pay any tax.`
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`09:05.44`	`BigBambi`	`So there seems to be something :)`
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`09:05.50`	`BigBambi`	`Egis: Good point also :)`
`09:06.32`	`runasand`	`ah ok :)`
`09:06.40`	`Egis`	`runasand: most students working only during summer do not reach that :)`
`09:06.58`	`runasand`	`true :)`
`09:08.47`	`glaslos`	`lh: you've added me with my old @gmail.com address. In Germany only the @googlemail.com address is available. So I'm unable to login to googlegroups but able to receive mails.`
`09:10.37`	`ochot`	`glaslos: I was also added with my google apps for domains email address (which google accepts) but that makes me unable to login to googlegroups too`
`09:11.40`	`glaslos`	`lh: sorry, I wasn't precise enough: I'm not listed as member in the gsoc group with my googlemail.com account.`
`09:14.03`	`ajuonline`	`glaslos: email lh at lhospo at gmail`
`09:14.13`	`ajuonline`	`errr`
`09:14.20`	`ajuonline`	`lhospo at gmail dot com`
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`09:15.43`	`ochot`	`ajuonline: thx, I was about to ask since I couldn't find her email`
`09:16.17`	`ajuonline`	`:) its everywhere?`
`09:16.24`	`ajuonline`	`should be in the faq`
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`09:18.33`	`ajuonline`	`feels that this time ellen is handling all these stuff since he noticed her email on the faq`
`09:18.58`	`ajuonline`	`but its emails. hah. lh is the right person.`
`09:19.21`	`ajuonline`	`we are supposed to mail ellen for documents issues i guess.`
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`09:32.42`	`disismt`	`Why is it that when you search in a particular google group, you never get anything? Doesn't it search the posts?`
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`09:36.47`	`kblin`	`disismt: google doesn't do the searching thing very well ;)`
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`09:45.40`	`Upthorn`	`So`
`09:45.57`	`Upthorn`	`Should all students be added to the student-list by now?`
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`09:47.38`	`Upthorn`	`because I still have not been, and am beginning to become worried`
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`09:50.27`	`skiquel`	`ipwa: hey dude`
`09:50.39`	`ipwa`	`skiquel: yo`
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`09:50.59`	`ipwa`	`whats up :)`
`09:51.27`	`mib_v73rx8qr`	`First time here`
`09:51.46`	`mib_v73rx8qr`	`my school blocked the IRC port.. so I need to use an internet client =.=`
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`09:52.17`	`mib_v73rx8qr`	`wts up ipwa :)`
`09:52.21`	`schumaml`	`you should choose a better nick`
`09:52.28`	`mib_v73rx8qr`	`agreed... wait`
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`09:52.45`	`ipwa`	`heya`
`09:52.49`	`mib_v73rx8qr`	`Like this`
`09:52.57`	`mib_v73rx8qr`	`ohh... why hasn't it changed..`
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`09:56.00`	`Rudolf`	`sup`
`09:56.09`	`Rudolf`	`back.. changed nickname :)`
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`09:56.27`	`schumaml`	`you can use the /nick command, btw`
`09:56.45`	`Rudolf`	`i see`
`09:56.56`	`Rudolf`	`how does that work? Can you give me an example :)?`
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`09:57.30`	`skbohra`	`just type /nick yournewname and press enter`
`09:57.43`	`Rudolf`	`ohh`
`09:57.58`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`haha`
`09:57.59`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`Got it`
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`09:58.00`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`thanks`
`09:58.02`	`skbohra`	`:)`
`09:58.05`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`are you in GSoC this year?`
`09:58.18`	`skbohra`	`yeah, we are :)`
`09:58.23`	`skbohra`	`so many here`
`09:58.36`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`haha`
`09:58.44`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`The emails from the mailing list are overwhelming`
`09:58.48`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`I did not want to miss any`
`09:58.55`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`so I did not set it to No Emails`
`09:58.56`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`haha`
`09:59.14`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`Where are you from?`
`09:59.45`	`skbohra`	`I am an Indian`
`10:00.00`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`I see`
`10:00.03`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`I am Chinese`
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`10:00.40`	`Rudolf_Lai`	`Which Project are you working on?`
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`10:02.54`	`skbohra`	`Sahana Disaster Management System`
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`10:04.35`	`ajuonline`	`skbohra: you scared him? :P`
`10:05.03`	`skbohra`	`oh Disaster :D`
`10:05.23`	`lut4rp`	`ajuonline, Sahana PHP considering a move to Drupal/other system?`
`10:05.47`	`ajuonline`	`lut4rp: there is a framework change discussion going on - yes. Drupal is on the list of ones being evaluated.`
`10:06.04`	`lut4rp`	`ajuonline, where do i put my vote in? :)`
`10:06.16`	`ajuonline`	`its not - vote. but discussion first :-)`
`10:06.36`	`ajuonline`	`at least for now*`
`10:07.28`	`ajuonline`	`so join the mailing list. and fire away your arguements :)`
`10:08.38`	`ajuonline`	`lut4rp: or just drop by #sahana - right now. person who suggested drupal is online ;)`
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`10:19.00`	`LimmON_`	`ajuonline, Hi, How i can take a google t-shirt? :)`
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`10:19.08`	`ajuonline`	`LimmON_: passing gsoc ?`
`10:19.19`	`LimmON_`	`yes`
`10:19.27`	`ajuonline`	`i mean - after passing gsoc.`
`10:20.46`	`LimmON_`	`Oh, I thought now :)`
`10:20.59`	`Ivanovic`	`you "automatically" get it if you pass SoC`
`10:21.19`	`vegard`	`hm, I was subscribed to the gsoc-students mailing list, but I didn't get the first e-mails (i.e. Introductions Thread and Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Tax Forms, etc), only the replies to these threads. why? :(`
`10:21.30`	`ajuonline`	`LimmON_: nope. not now.`
`10:21.40`	`ajuonline`	`vegard: because the ids/emails were added after that thread was created.`
`10:21.59`	`thiago`	`read as "Introduction to Threads"`
`10:22.01`	`ajuonline`	`vegard: you can chekc the past archives, through the web view.`
`10:22.09`	`vegard`	`o.k`
`10:22.11`	`ajuonline`	`ThomasWaldmann: :P`
`10:22.27`	`ajuonline`	`ThomasWaldmann: sorry. that was for thiago`
`10:22.35`	`vegard`	`I think it was sort of strange. but thanks, I will look online. I guess there is no way to be sent the old e-mails?`
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`10:23.19`	`ajuonline`	`no.`
`10:23.45`	`vegard`	`ok. thanks :)`
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`10:24.14`	`ajuonline`	`i dont know of any way ;/`
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`10:26.32`	`LimmON_`	`ajuonline, How I can public my foto on http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list/files?hl=en ?`
`10:28.01`	`ajuonline`	`LimmON_: thats a private list - isnt it?`
`10:29.33`	`LimmON_`	`ajuonline, I do not know`
`10:29.52`	`schumaml`	`yes, it is private`
`10:30.02`	`ajuonline`	`LimmON_: yes it is :)`
`10:30.13`	`ajuonline`	`LimmON_: studnets only.`
`10:30.28`	`LimmON_`	`I am a student`
`10:30.35`	`ajuonline`	`students*, of course there are students turned mentors there. and mentor turned students as well :P`
`10:31.47`	`LimmON_`	`I am a gsoc student even :)`
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`10:33.36`	`Upthorn`	`Am I the only GSoC student who can't access the list yet?`
`10:34.58`	`LimmON_`	`Upthorn, I can read only...`
`10:35.09`	`Upthorn`	`I cannot read even`
`10:35.19`	`Ivanovic`	`relax and wait`
`10:35.26`	`Ivanovic`	`!icanwait`
`10:35.26`	`socinfo`	`"icanwait" is Have another cup of tea then!`
`10:36.01`	`Upthorn`	`Ivanovic: but I've already tried that for four days, and it didn't work! >_>`
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`10:37.23`	`Ivanovic`	`Upthorn: wait a little longer`
`10:37.36`	`Ivanovic`	`by sunday you should be on the list, if not, send leslie a mail`
`10:37.58`	`ajuonline`	`Upthorn: 4 days???? why? did you try to manualy subscribe?`
`10:38.06`	`Upthorn`	`ajuonline: no`
`10:38.13`	`ajuonline`	`all students were added yesterday.`
`10:38.28`	`ajuonline`	`Upthorn: email LH and be patient. check /topic`
`10:38.37`	`Upthorn`	`accepted students were announced on monday`
`10:38.46`	`skbohra`	`don't want to flood the lists more by putting his intro :)`
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`10:38.56`	`ajuonline`	`skbohra: you should. thats the tradition.`
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`10:39.10`	`ajuonline`	`supports traditions`
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`10:39.28`	`skbohra`	`goes right away, aye aye captain`
`10:39.34`	`Ivanovic`	`is glad that he is not on the students list`
`10:39.37`	`Upthorn`	`so I _should_ email leslie at this point`
`10:39.51`	`Upthorn`	`that is what I've been trying to determine`
`10:40.07`	`ajuonline`	`Upthorn: oh yes :) lhospo at gmail`
`10:40.22`	`Ivanovic`	`and i am happy that the mentors are sane enough this year not to send a "hi, my name it and i mentor for ABC" to the list, since this is just a basially useless flodd of mails...)`
`10:40.57`	`ajuonline`	`Ivanovic: but you know, we studnets are the excited lot and the new lot as well :)`
`10:41.03`	`ajuonline`	`its a different kinda fun and excitement`
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`10:41.28`	`ajuonline`	`esp. for first timers :)`
`10:41.39`	`Ivanovic`	`uhm, for this stuff there is irc`
`10:41.45`	`Ivanovic`	`here it is even more fun...`
`10:41.54`	`ajuonline`	`what about tradition :D`
`10:43.03`	`Ivanovic`	`trawhat?`
`10:43.27`	`ajuonline`	`Ivanovic: ever been on the student list?`
`10:43.36`	`skbohra`	`wrote a poem on google! :D`
`10:43.53`	`Ivanovic`	`ajuonline: not on the gsoc student list`
`10:44.04`	`Ivanovic`	`(only on several student lists at universtiy...)`
`10:44.04`	`ajuonline`	`quotes`
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`10:44.07`	`ajuonline`	`"It is a time honored tradition that most new GSoCers want to`
`10:44.07`	`ajuonline`	`immediately email the list to introduce themselves and see who else is`
`10:44.10`	`ajuonline`	`attending their same university or lives nearby. "`
`10:44.19`	`ajuonline`	`honored tradition`
`10:44.24`	`ajuonline`	`Ivanovic: ^ :D`
`10:44.34`	`Ivanovic`	`pah, traditions are there to be forgotten...`
`10:44.36`	`Ivanovic`	`;)`
`10:44.36`	`ajuonline`	`Quote:lh`
`10:44.50`	`ajuonline`	`meh, grown ups are boring :P`
`10:45.14`	`Ivanovic`	`ajuonline: uhm, every participant in gsoc should basically be grown up`
`10:45.34`	`Ivanovic`	`(considering that there might be several students in soc that are older than me...)`
`10:45.35`	`ajuonline`	`:D right. but you know what i mena:)`
`10:45.37`	`ajuonline`	`mean*`
`10:46.07`	`ajuonline`	`i need food!`
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`10:51.57`	`mib_jizu5n`	`Hi guys`
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`10:53.33`	`mib_jizu5n`	`Do you think a letter in this form will do for showing enrollment? To Whom It May Concern: This is to certify that Mr. John (Enrolment No 111111) Branch Computer Science and Engineering, B.Tech 6th Semester was enrolled in National Institute of Technology as of 20 April 2009.`
`10:54.29`	`skbohra`	`you can just send a scanned copy of college id card, as written over there`
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`10:55.34`	`mib_jizu5n`	`skbohra: problem is my library card says its valid till 2010 but my I-card says nothing of that sort`
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`10:58.57`	`r0bby`	`holy fuck`
`10:59.10`	`r0bby`	`er lang`
`10:59.12`	`r0bby`	`uage`
`10:59.13`	`r0bby`	`sorry`
`10:59.18`	`r0bby`	`:(`
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`11:01.17`	`ajuonline`	`mib_jizu5n: that letter should do.`
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`11:17.55`	`gurkee`	`i like to get emails from google-summer-of-code-students-list@googlegroups.com. but perhaps not all of them. is there a way to filter out e.g. the "introductions thread" using google groups webinterface? i could not find anything; but this feature should exist, hmm? or do i have to filter it out using my email client?`
`11:18.24`	`ojwb`	`do it in your client I think`
`11:18.33`	`ojwb`	`apparently in gmail "m" will mute a thread`
`11:18.56`	`gurkee`	`ojwb, you mean the gmail webinterface?`
`11:19.08`	`ojwb`	`yeah`
`11:19.14`	`ojwb`	`someone said earlier`
`11:20.30`	`gurkee`	`and when i use "m" in gmail webinterface - what happens to these emails? will they be moved/deleted? will i receive them anyway using e.g. thunderbird?`
`11:21.57`	`ojwb`	`shrugs`
`11:22.14`	`ojwb`	`just repeating what someone said earlier, as gmail's quite popular`
`11:22.14`	`gurkee`	`ojwb, k : )`
`11:25.20`	`sea-gull`	`hi, should I translate tax form before sending it to Google?`
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`11:29.01`	`gurkee`	`ojwb: do you see this in english? this is the help topic for the thing we just talked about... :) http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=47787`
`11:29.43`	`gurkee`	`msgs of threads marked with "m" will no longer be moved to "Inbox", but to the archive directly.`
`11:29.54`	`ojwb`	`um, in english?`
`11:30.00`	`ojwb`	`you mean the link?`
`11:30.11`	`sebp`	`does anyboy know how I can change my subscription of the private gsoc list that I don't receive all the e-mails?`
`11:31.17`	`ojwb`	`wonders how he can change his subscription to this irc channel so he doesn't keep hearing people ask that...`
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`11:31.47`	`ojwb`	`sebp: you have to filter at your end I think`
`11:31.58`	`ojwb`	`if you use gmail, see: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=47787`
`11:32.48`	`sebp`	`ojwb: hm, in previous years I could change my subscription, but this year I'm subscribed with my non gmail address`
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`11:33.50`	`haoyu`	`sebp, can't you do that at this page? http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list/subscribe`
`11:34.33`	`haoyu`	`sebp, but DON'T unsubscribe`
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`11:35.39`	`sebp`	`haoyu: no, I can't access this patch because my actual google account isn't invited, but another e-mail address I never created a google account fpr`
`11:35.48`	`sebp`	`s/fpr/for/`
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`11:36.31`	`schumaml`	`sebp: create another google account?`
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`11:37.39`	`haoyu`	`sebp, I see. That's really a problem...`
`11:38.32`	`sebp`	`schumaml: creating a account worked, thanks. not want I originally wanted, but it works`
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`11:39.25`	`schumaml`	`I would like one account with multiple logins a lot better, too`
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`11:43.35`	`firavun`	`Hi there, is there anybody joining GSOC from Turkey?`
`11:45.17`	`firavun`	`ok, I think, there isn't.`
`11:46.40`	`ojwb`	`I imagine there are`
`11:47.03`	`ojwb`	`but there are 1000 students and they aren't all here and a lot of people here aren't awake`
`11:47.23`	`dho`	`ojwb: I'd imagine most people participating in GSoC in Turkey would be awake now :)`
`11:47.26`	`firavun`	`thank you ojwb`
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`11:47.49`	`johang`	`there were 12 from turkey last year`
`11:47.52`	`ojwb`	`dho: well, I mean "IRC awake" really`
`11:48.02`	`dho`	`:)`
`11:48.04`	`schumaml`	`people who ask something on irc and draw conclusions after minutes without an answer do have problems, IMO`
`11:48.09`	`ojwb`	`they might be in lectures, etc`
`11:48.42`	`firavun`	`well, i've been developing my projects, but i would like to join one project. but i'm newbie, i'm searching for it.`
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`11:52.47`	`firavun`	`i should read faqs and the guide, then i should start, see you later.`
`11:54.43`	`ojwb`	`firavun_away: um, it is too late to apply for this year`
`11:54.56`	`ojwb`	`the accepted students were announced last monday`
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`11:55.18`	`ojwb`	`nothing to stop you getting involved with an open source project outside of gsoc of course`
`11:57.25`	`firavun_away`	`ojwb: yep, i see it now, anyway i am developer, i'll build a project anyway. no matter google cares :)`
`11:57.45`	`r0bby`	`firavun_away: google doesn't mind, find a project`
`11:57.48`	`r0bby`	`and contribute :)`
`11:57.57`	`r0bby`	`might i suggest OpenMRS or Sahana?`
`11:58.02`	`r0bby`	`HFOSS++`
`11:58.16`	`firavun_away`	`hmm... let me check`
`11:58.27`	`r0bby`	`http://sahana.lk`
`11:58.30`	`r0bby`	`http://openmrs.org`
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`11:58.45`	`ojwb`	`or if you have a particular area of interest, there are lists of the gsoc orgs by category`
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`12:01.13`	`firavun`	`yes, openmrs seems cool`
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`12:02.25`	`firavun`	`it suits me, because i'm about the finish in bs. electrical and electronics engineering. i may do something that makes sense in that project`
`12:02.41`	`firavun`	`thank you guys`
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`12:43.36`	`disismt`	`Hi someone please tell me how to split a pdf. My college enrollment proof and foreign certification are on the same pdf :(`
`12:44.27`	`bobmcw`	`disismt: print 1 page to a PDF`
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`12:45.16`	`Dark_Shikari`	`there's an online tool for that, google it`
`12:45.29`	`Dark_Shikari`	`oh yeah, there's an open source downloadable thing`
`12:45.34`	`Dark_Shikari`	`google it`
`12:47.12`	`aghisla`	`there is pdftk on linux`
`12:47.29`	`disismt`	`bobmcw, wow your suggestion works, Thanks`
`12:47.45`	`llml`	`disismt: I thought we should print the foreign certification and sign on it, and then scan it. Am I right?`
`12:47.56`	`disismt`	`llml, yes`
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`12:48.30`	`llml`	`disismt: So why worry about "on the same pdf"?`
`12:49.43`	`p_l`	`someone tried signing it electronically? :)`
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`12:50.04`	`llml`	`OMG`
`12:50.06`	`disismt`	`llml, I scanned both docs on the same pdf :D`
`12:50.30`	`disismt`	`llml, a duplex scanner or something it was`
`12:50.31`	`llml`	`disismt: I see`
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`13:00.26`	`dho`	`llml: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit`
`13:00.47`	`dho`	`Rule #1`
`13:00.47`	`dho`	`Irssi cannot do vertical splits, only horizontal splits. That is, windows can only be arranged from top to bottom, never from side to side.`
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`13:01.54`	`llml`	`dho: Oh, it's not so comfortable for wide screen users... Anyway, thanks:)`
`13:02.06`	`ojwb`	`turn your screen on its side`
`13:02.30`	`llml`	`ojwb: Good idea:)`
`13:03.13`	`llml`	`ojwb: though not so elegent:)`
`13:03.26`	`cjhopman`	`i dont know how well i could type that way`
`13:03.29`	`ojwb`	`it's less convenient with a laptop, admittedly`
`13:03.54`	`llml`	`ojwb: It's just what I'm using...`
`13:04.23`	`llml`	`cjhopman: A tablet will do this fine`
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`13:15.10`	`Chrononaut`	`i have't been added to the student list yet - should everyone have received invitations by now?`
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`13:15.36`	`runasand`	`does anyone know the number of females who have been (or are this year) a part of gsoc?`
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`13:16.12`	`ojwb`	`you aren't alone anyway`
`13:16.27`	`llml`	`runasand: Nobody knows, I think.`
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`13:17.00`	`Chrononaut`	`ojwb: alright, thanks`
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`13:17.31`	`ojwb`	`"4% female participation" was the figure I heard last year`
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`13:18.00`	`ojwb`	`not sure if that was for last year, or so far`
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`13:19.03`	`runasand`	`llml: hm.. I think that would be interesting to see`
`13:19.28`	`disismt`	`Do we write TAX FORMS only or TAX FORMS AND ENROLLMENT PROOFS in the subject, while returning documentation to google?`
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`13:19.39`	`llml`	`runasand: Looking forward...:)`
`13:20.42`	`runasand`	`disismt: I just wrote "TAX FORMS - $myname" and then wrote that I had attached both documents.`
`13:20.57`	`disismt`	`runasand, ok thnks :)`
`13:21.07`	`runasand`	`lh: is it possible get the number of females who have been (or are this year) a part of gsoc?`
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`13:52.50`	`disismt`	`!stats`
`13:52.50`	`socinfo`	`"stats" is http://www.lfowles.org/irc/gsoc/stats.htm`
`13:53.00`	`disismt`	`!next`
`13:53.00`	`socinfo`	`"next" is Check to see if you're accepted by visiting organization home pages at http://tinyurl.com/orghome Accepted students will be added to the private student mailing list in the next few days and Google will ask for tax forms and proof of enrollment later. Meanwhile, start bonding with your community.`
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`14:13.47`	`RainCT`	`Hi`
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`14:14.11`	`bubaflub`	`hello`
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`14:21.26`	`r0bby`	`...is there a language barrier or can students not follow a simple "keep all introductions in this thread" instruction....`
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`14:29.36`	`RainCT`	`Â«a letter from a college or university stating that you had been accepted to attend on or before 20 April 2009Â» I guess this also applies if I'm not on a college/university? Because I have no student ID and as "transcript of course list" the only thing I can think are my marks of the last quarter XD and those are in Catalan`
`14:30.15`	`RainCT`	`Â«a letter from a college or university stating that you [...]Â» I guess this also applies if I'm not on a college/university? (Because I have no student ID and as "transcript of course list" the only thing I can think are my marks of the last quarter XD and those are in Catalan)`
`14:30.29`	`RainCT`	`oops sorry for posting twice :$`
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`14:30.45`	`Mek`	`bah... having one big intro thread is still easily ignored, but having one intro thread per country seriously sucks...`
`14:31.21`	`lifeeth`	`Mek, I woke up and saw ~300 mails in my kmail - kicked myself for not filtering them`
`14:32.02`	`bubaflub`	`yeah, i wish they could have added us as digest instead of me receiving every email`
`14:32.07`	`Mek`	`for that there is fortunately the 'ignore thread' function in kmail :)`
`14:32.11`	`summatusmentis`	`did anyone figure out how to "mute" conversations in gmail?`
`14:32.11`	`ojwb`	`RainCT: can you not get a letter from whatever educational establishment you are attending?`
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`14:32.20`	`ojwb`	`summatusmentis: m`
`14:32.28`	`summatusmentis`	`ojwb: it just does it?`
`14:32.29`	`ojwb`	`or so I'm told`
`14:32.32`	`ojwb`	`yes`
`14:32.37`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, yes, you can also use the drop down menu :)`
`14:32.38`	`lifeeth`	`Mek, Well I minimized the thread and hit the del :)`
`14:32.50`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: I tried, I don't see anything labelled mute`
`14:33.20`	`ojwb`	`start a thread about how to ignore threads`
`14:33.21`	`ojwb`	`go on`
`14:33.24`	`lut4rp`	`haha`
`14:33.25`	`ojwb`	`I dare you`
`14:33.25`	`summatusmentis`	`no`
`14:33.25`	`lut4rp`	`checks`
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`14:33.36`	`ojwb`	`or one thread per mailer`
`14:33.41`	`bubaflub`	`you can also change your subscription settings through google groops`
`14:33.42`	`bubaflub`	`groups`
`14:33.45`	`bubaflub`	`spelling fail`
`14:33.52`	`lifeeth`	`:)`
`14:33.53`	`summatusmentis`	`bubaflub: I did that last year, that was just as annoying`
`14:33.54`	`summatusmentis`	`:)`
`14:33.58`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, i see mute in the 'more options' button, not the message drop down`
`14:34.17`	`ojwb`	`hmm, upgrading to jaunty will apparently upgrade 2 packages...`
`14:34.24`	`ojwb`	`something isn't quite right...`
`14:34.47`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: I don't see a "more options" button either, what'm I missing?`
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`14:35.04`	`summatusmentis`	`o/ [mharrison]`
`14:36.04`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: I see "remove label" "report spam" "delete" "move to" (drop down menu) "Labels" (drop down menu) and "more actions "drop down menu"`
`14:36.09`	`summatusmentis`	`it's not in more actions`
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`14:37.35`	`ojwb`	`select a message first`
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`14:37.50`	`RainCT`	`ojwb: Yep, I can ask the secretary or even the director for one. Just asking as the page only mentions "college" and "university" for the letter point`
`14:38.02`	`ojwb`	`what are you at?`
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`14:38.21`	`ojwb`	`I suspect it just doesn't consider there are other options`
`14:38.46`	`summatusmentis`	`ojwb: even still, I'm not seeing the ignore function`
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`14:38.53`	`ojwb`	`"mute"`
`14:38.59`	`ojwb`	`it's the 4th option`
`14:39.06`	`ojwb`	`in "more actions"`
`14:39.08`	`ojwb`	`at least for me`
`14:39.29`	`RainCT`	`ojwb: Baccalaureate (if you don't know what this is, it's like "abitur" or "A Levels" -but with more subjects-)`
`14:39.35`	`summatusmentis`	`my 4th option is "Filter messages like these"`
`14:39.56`	`ojwb`	`3rd for me`
`14:40.02`	`ojwb`	`oh, you must be using the other gmail!`
`14:40.16`	`lut4rp`	`other gmail?`
`14:40.31`	`lut4rp`	`are you using an older version, maybe?`
`14:40.34`	`ojwb`	`joking`
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`14:40.46`	`lut4rp`	`:P`
`14:41.12`	`summatusmentis`	`it's not possibly because I have Google Gears installed is it?`
`14:41.13`	`ojwb`	`actually, there is an "older ui"`
`14:41.27`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, um no, so do I.`
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`14:42.00`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: are you using a theme?`
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`14:42.15`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, yes, but it shouldn't matter, should it?`
`14:42.16`	`bubaflub`	`lut4rp: are you in the English version of gmail`
`14:42.21`	`lut4rp`	`bubaflub, yes.`
`14:42.28`	`bubaflub`	`well, i'm out of ideas`
`14:42.31`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: I'd hope not, but so am I`
`14:42.31`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, you're in the default theme?`
`14:42.43`	`summatusmentis`	`no, I'm in "shiny"`
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`14:43.26`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, http://imagebin.org/46783`
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`14:44.16`	`summatusmentis`	`yeah, I don't have that`
`14:44.29`	`summatusmentis`	`I only have 5 options`
`14:44.55`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: you're using Google Gears for offline?`
`14:45.01`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, yes.`
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`14:46.07`	`summatusmentis`	`that's super annoying, I have no idea why it's not there`
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`14:51.41`	`summatusmentis`	`I can't even set a keyboard shortcut for this`
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`14:52.01`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: are you using "only use https" ?`
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`14:58.58`	`jessezh`	`the Introductions Thread has been silent for 20 minutes :P`
`14:59.03`	`Corsix`	`new record?`
`14:59.30`	`jessezh`	`don't know :)`
`15:02.43`	`skbohra`	`w00t`
`15:02.48`	`skbohra`	`is it so`
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`15:03.10`	`summatusmentis`	`ok, now mute showed up...`
`15:03.31`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, yes, i am on 'only https'`
`15:03.32`	`bubaflub`	`summatusmentis: what was the problem?`
`15:03.38`	`lut4rp`	`but how'd it show up though? :)`
`15:04.09`	`summatusmentis`	`bubaflub: no clue, it shoed up for a message from student list serv, but still not for some of the other GSoC threads`
`15:04.18`	`bubaflub`	`that's nutty`
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`15:11.04`	`summatusmentis`	`bubaflub: yeah, none of the things from the gsoc list are letting me mute them`
`15:11.18`	`bubaflub`	`that's asinine`
`15:11.46`	`summatusmentis`	`no kidding`
`15:12.02`	`bubaflub`	`to mitigate the unstoppable deluge of email i just told google groups to give me a digest`
`15:12.11`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, disable gears and try again?`
`15:12.13`	`bubaflub`	`doesn't solve your non-muting problem, but close enough`
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`15:12.35`	`bubaflub`	`(close enough for me, maybe not for all)`
`15:13.29`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: nope`
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`15:13.51`	`lut4rp`	`wtf seriously.`
`15:14.06`	`summatusmentis`	`I know!`
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`15:14.30`	`bubaflub`	`if only we had some contacts with Google....`
`15:14.31`	`bubaflub`	`oh wait.`
`15:14.52`	`summatusmentis`	`hah, I'm not sure lh could do anything about mute`
`15:15.14`	`bubaflub`	`true`
`15:15.31`	`bubaflub`	`it's also notoriously difficult to actually talk to a googler about their products`
`15:15.36`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, she could just dial 'department of gmail' from the internal phone system :)`
`15:15.41`	`lut4rp`	`and complain :)`
`15:15.50`	`ar1nd4m`	`did all the google groups invitations for students go through ? because I did not receive mine yet ...`
`15:15.54`	`summatusmentis`	`she could, but she may not :)`
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`15:16.13`	`lut4rp`	`ar1nd4m, /topic`
`15:16.35`	`lut4rp`	`ar1nd4m, drop a mail to lhospo at gmail dot com and wait patiently`
`15:17.11`	`ar1nd4m`	`I was under the impression the invitations are still getting dispatched.`
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`15:17.15`	`ar1nd4m`	`thanks, lut4rp`
`15:21.44`	`summatusmentis`	`ok, when I'm in my inbox, I can see mute`
`15:22.16`	`summatusmentis`	`when I go to one of the labels, mute is no longer an option under "More actions"`
`15:22.24`	`bubaflub`	`really?`
`15:22.39`	`summatusmentis`	`yes, really`
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`15:23.05`	`summatusmentis`	`is it because I have my labels filters set to skip my inbox?`
`15:23.25`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, yes.`
`15:23.26`	`lut4rp`	`it is.`
`15:23.33`	`lut4rp`	`i have that for a label, and i can't see it either`
`15:23.36`	`lut4rp`	`:)`
`15:23.40`	`summatusmentis`	`that's stupid`
`15:23.47`	`lut4rp`	`aye`
`15:23.59`	`summatusmentis`	`goes to fix all the labels filters`
`15:24.34`	`summatusmentis`	`mute marks things as read though, yes?`
`15:24.56`	`lut4rp`	`dunno`
`15:25.18`	`lut4rp`	`doesn't need to mute conversations that often`
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`15:27.50`	`bubaflub`	`mute has all new emails from that thread skip your inbox`
`15:27.55`	`bubaflub`	`so in a sense marks them as read`
`15:28.15`	`summatusmentis`	`but they'll show up in my filter still, as unread?`
`15:30.22`	`disismt`	`Hey guys, how can I know if Google got my tax forms or not? Will they send some confirmation?`
`15:30.46`	`skbohra`	`last date is 15th may ? :)`
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`15:33.17`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: when a converstaion gets a new mail to it, I still get an "unread" label, even though it's been muted`
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`15:35.36`	`lut4rp`	`:/`
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`15:37.47`	`summatusmentis`	`does it not do that for you?`
`15:38.16`	`lut4rp`	`um, i think it should.`
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`15:40.19`	`summatusmentis`	`for instance, the "Blogs" thread, just now got a new message to it, and was labelled as unread`
`15:40.45`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, yeah, gets unread for me too. But it shouldn't show it in inbox anymore?`
`15:40.50`	`lut4rp`	`is it still showing?`
`15:41.32`	`summatusmentis`	`it's not in the inbox, I want it to be marked as read :)`
`15:42.07`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, filter perhaps?`
`15:42.21`	`summatusmentis`	`yeah, just wondering about filtering threads marked mute :)`
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`15:47.03`	`summatusmentis`	`so you can filter on "is:muted", but it may not work, because it'll never match incoming mail`
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`15:49.46`	`serabe`	`hi`
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`15:52.18`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: win! if you filter on "is:muted" in the field "Has the words:" it'll mark them as read`
`15:52.25`	`summatusmentis`	`\o/`
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`15:54.10`	`lut4rp`	`\m/`
`15:54.13`	`lut4rp`	`:)`
`15:54.25`	`lut4rp`	`runs off to dinner`
`15:54.58`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, btw are you a mentor or a student ?`
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`15:59.17`	`infinity0`	`is a scanned copy of the examinations i am taking this year acceptable proof of enrollment?`
`15:59.32`	`infinity0`	`"examination entry confirmation form"`
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`16:05.01`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: student`
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`16:18.24`	`gurkeee`	`where to send the proof of enrollment?`
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`16:19.07`	`monsieurp`	`gurkeee: it's in the FAQ, on SoC website`
`16:19.33`	`disismt`	`lh, http://www.extremely-sharp.com/direct/catvideo.html`
`16:20.00`	`gurkeee`	`monsieurp, I was just reading "GSoC 2009 Accepted Student Information" (that even has an ICQ section) and could not find it -so you mean I should search in the big FAQ?`
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`16:20.42`	`monsieurp`	`your right, it's nowhere :/`
`16:20.43`	`devilsadvocate`	`gurkeee: the email address and fax number are on that page`
`16:21.06`	`gurkeee`	`devilsadvocate, yeah for the tax forms.`
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`16:21.35`	`devilsadvocate`	`gurkeee: i assumed enrolment proof goes to the same place :\`
`16:22.02`	`monsieurp`	`try to ping lh about this`
`16:22.21`	`gurkeee`	`"sending them to Ellen Ko at ospoellenko@gmail.com, with subject line : "TAX FORMS - <Your Name> ". " -- so i thought this is only for tax forms..`
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`16:31.49`	`lut4rp`	`summatusmentis, ah, what org?`
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`16:34.28`	`summatusmentis`	`lut4rp: OpenAFS`
`16:35.04`	`lh`	`gurkeee: please tell me how this section can be made more clear. http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentinfo#How_to_Return_Forms_to_Google_32460897634151975`
`16:35.24`	`lh`	`gurkeee: seems like that says pretty clearly that you return your documents to google by fax or email and gives you info for both`
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`16:36.32`	`gurkeee`	`lh, "returning forms to Google" and "with subject line : "TAX FORMS - <Your Name> "" for me did not make definitively clear, that the proof of enrollment should also be mailed to Ellen Ko.`
`16:36.44`	`MarkieMark1`	`I can't seem to edit my Email addresses at https://www.google.com/accounts/EditUserInfo`
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`16:36.59`	`gurkeee`	`lh, i could guess that but i really was not sure :-)`
`16:37.33`	`MarkieMark1`	`Email addresses not listed there as they should be`
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`16:37.41`	`MarkieMark1`	`kind of funny :)`
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`16:38.59`	`MarkieMark1`	`haha I had disabled javascript :)`
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`16:41.32`	`gangil`	`can we change our personal info like shipping address now ?`
`16:41.43`	`gangil`	`or is it too late?`
`16:41.47`	`gurkeee`	`lh, i don't want to be picky. for me, as not native english, "forms" and "tax forms" is the same and does not include the prof of enrollment - perhaps there we can locate the "misunderstanding". sth. like "send proof of enrollment to Ellen Ko" would make it totally sure :-)`
`16:42.12`	`lh`	`gurkeee: i already updated the document, take a look`
`16:42.21`	`lh`	`is used to open source people being pedantic, this is nothing new`
`16:42.22`	`lh`	`:)`
`16:42.32`	`ian_mac`	`lol`
`16:42.46`	`ian_mac`	`doesn't care as long as you pronounce Linux right`
`16:42.54`	`ian_mac`	`:)`
`16:43.02`	`gurkeee`	`lh, thank you! i am for sure not pedantic. perhaps a bit slow and silly - so i really did not know where to send :D :D`
`16:43.36`	`lut4rp`	`ian_mac, like LAAINUX?`
`16:43.50`	`schumaml`	`it's GNU/Linux, btw`
`16:43.54`	`schumaml`	`hides`
`16:43.54`	`ian_mac`	`no no no!`
`16:43.57`	`ian_mac`	`lol`
`16:44.02`	`lut4rp`	`:P`
`16:44.08`	`ian_mac`	`lynne uks`
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`16:44.50`	`gangil`	`?`
`16:44.54`	`monsieurp`	`p_l: hey :)`
`16:45.00`	`lut4rp`	`p_l, whatchoo mean?`
`16:45.01`	`p_l`	`monsieurp: hey :)`
`16:45.09`	`p_l`	`lut4rp: kicking glibc out`
`16:45.15`	`lut4rp`	`ahh :)`
`16:45.38`	`ian_mac`	`that's enough glib comments from you, p_l`
`16:45.50`	`ian_mac`	`oh wait`
`16:45.51`	`ian_mac`	`nm`
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`16:46.17`	`lh`	`gurkeee: pedantic. :)`
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`16:47.28`	`ian_mac`	`what does pedantic mean, anyway?`
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`16:47.34`	`ian_mac`	`okay`
`16:47.35`	`ian_mac`	`I'll stop`
`16:47.37`	`ian_mac`	`and go get some lunch`
`16:47.41`	`lut4rp`	`good idea.`
`16:47.46`	`p_l`	`ian_mac: Someone completely focused on even smallest details?`
`16:47.51`	`lut4rp`	`:)`
`16:48.08`	`ian_mac`	`ahhh.... I'm glad I'm not like that`
`16:48.16`	`gangil`	`hi , can we change our shipping info now , or is it too late?`
`16:48.48`	`ian_mac`	`stop it people!`
`16:48.51`	`ian_mac`	`you're feeding me!`
`16:48.55`	`ian_mac`	`later`
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`16:48.59`	`lh`	`!timeline`
`16:48.59`	`socinfo`	`"timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline`
`16:49.15`	`lh`	`gangil: you should be able to change it at any time. if you can't file a bug please.`
`16:49.17`	`lh`	`!issues`
`16:49.18`	`socinfo`	`Error: "issues" is not a valid command.`
`16:49.20`	`lh`	`!bugs`
`16:49.21`	`socinfo`	`"bugs" is Melange bugs are tracked at http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list`
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`16:49.56`	`gangil`	`lh: ok thanks :)`
`16:50.11`	`lut4rp`	`beerbee`
`16:50.12`	`lh`	`gangil: np`
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`17:23.57`	`ajuonline`	`lh: :D i knew that was coming ;)`
`17:23.59`	`ajuonline`	`hugs back`
`17:24.06`	`lh`	`ajuonline: every year, eh?`
`17:24.26`	`ajuonline`	`lh: som pipol.`
`17:24.48`	`ajuonline`	`lh: how are you doing today?`
`17:24.51`	`lh`	`ajuonline: eh, they're new. they'll learn.`
`17:24.53`	`lh`	`good busy`
`17:24.53`	`lh`	`:)`
`17:24.55`	`lh`	`as usual`
`17:24.56`	`lh`	`you?`
`17:25.05`	`sivaji`	`ajuonline, :D`
`17:25.10`	`ajuonline`	`feeling great today for some reason :P`
`17:25.15`	`ajuonline`	`maybe coz I went out for a fresh air walk - in the evening :P`
`17:25.25`	`ankitg`	`is enjoying the emails =) ... thx ajuonline for the entertainment`
`17:26.00`	`ajuonline`	`an10na: :P`
`17:26.04`	`ajuonline`	`oops ankitg ^`
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`17:26.33`	`ankitg`	`hi lh ... I am not officially participating in GSoC this year ... can I help you folks in running the program in any way?`
`17:26.36`	`runasand`	`:)`
`17:26.57`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: yeah. bring us some more entertainment on the lists :) with ur wits ;)`
`17:27.18`	`runasand`	`ajuonline: I don't think we need more emails to the lists right now ;p`
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`17:27.46`	`ajuonline`	`runasand: its fun, actually :)`
`17:27.49`	`lh`	`ankitg: if you are still on the students list you can direct traffic, e.g. tell folks to set up their own filters, that sort of thing`
`17:27.55`	`sivaji`	`http://planet-soc.com/blogs theme dosen't looks good :P`
`17:28.01`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: entertainment on the house ... where are r0bby // pcoetzee ??`
`17:28.19`	`vnkatesh`	`thanks ajuonline for his initiative on gsoc-india!`
`17:28.26`	`ankitg`	`lh: done. if anything else comes up, just gimme a shout out.`
`17:28.30`	`runasand`	`sivaji: I'm thinking about setting up something .. better`
`17:28.33`	`ajuonline`	`vnkatesh: its your place :) you are welcome ;)`
`17:28.52`	`sivaji`	`runasand, i like to join with you`
`17:29.05`	`ajuonline`	`vnkatesh: that has been around since last year ;) fyi.`
`17:29.25`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: r0bby is trying to behave this summer.`
`17:29.27`	`ajuonline`	`:P`
`17:29.39`	`sivaji`	`runasand, pm ?`
`17:29.48`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: I know, it's so boring ... wonder what lh did to him ...`
`17:29.56`	`ankitg`	`hides behind a free couch`
`17:30.01`	`ajuonline`	`hehehe`
`17:30.07`	`runasand`	`sivaji: sure`
`17:30.09`	`ajuonline`	`he did get to meet her for the first time in person. :P`
`17:30.10`	`lh`	`ankitg: i can make anyone behave`
`17:30.32`	`ajuonline`	`i second that.`
`17:30.38`	`ankitg`	`is awestruck ...`
`17:30.50`	`ajuonline`	`based on his own experience :P`
`17:30.53`	`ajuonline`	`buahahahaah`
`17:31.13`	`ajuonline`	`s/his/my`
`17:31.41`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: when are you visitng India next?`
`17:32.13`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: not in the near future ... grrr, missed out on meeting you =(`
`17:32.43`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: you planning on mentoring next year? If so I'll apply to Sahana :D`
`17:32.43`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: i had exams that day, i guess, right?`
`17:33.05`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: oh yes, if I dont get into studying again :P`
`17:33.08`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: missed you both time coz of your exams ...`
`17:33.56`	`ajuonline`	`this time I am thinking of travelling even more :P since I would have no school this year :P yAy!`
`17:34.57`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: I am already "into" studying more so I can apply next year ... we could start now ... mentor me, I know nothing about Sahana. Then by next year I can actually be helpful to you ...`
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`17:36.21`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: start with www.sahanapy.org :P read up ;) its Python :D`
`17:36.46`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: yay! Python ... used it for my GSoC project year ...`
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`17:36.52`	`ankitg`	`goes reads up ...`
`17:37.29`	`ajuonline`	`you could also hang around in #sahana :)`
`17:38.26`	`sivaji`	`ajuonline, who is taking care of http://planet-soc.com/`
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`17:38.44`	`ajuonline`	`sivaji: skiquel`
`17:38.46`	`alanp`	`oops`
`17:38.55`	`ajuonline`	`#fail`
`17:40.02`	`sivaji`	`skiquel,`
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`17:40.25`	`ajuonline`	`sivaji: you done with exams?`
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`17:41.23`	`sivaji`	`ajuonline, no i have only three paper this semester 1. foss 2. software quality mgmt 3. mobile computing`
`17:41.38`	`ajuonline`	`sivaji: eh, i had 2 :P`
`17:41.53`	`runasand`	`have 7 exams`
`17:41.53`	`runasand`	`:o`
`17:42.05`	`sivaji`	`runasand, :P`
`17:42.59`	`sivaji`	`ajuonline, i am still downloading ubuntu 9.04`
`17:43.41`	`ajuonline`	`is happy with his 8.04`
`17:44.26`	`runasand`	`I've heard that a whole lot of things broke when people tried to upgrade`
`17:44.47`	`dqminh`	`runasand: not really. everything went smoothly for me`
`17:45.07`	`ajuonline`	`dqminh: O HAIII! :P`
`17:45.08`	`dqminh`	`and i upgraded since alpha 4 :p`
`17:45.14`	`dqminh`	`ajuonline: hey ;)`
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`17:46.41`	`ajuonline`	`dqminh: how are you doing? i was mentioning about ankitg who is from .sg,`
`17:46.58`	`ajuonline`	`in .sg in the same univ, that contest is being held, you told me about.`
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`17:47.24`	`ajuonline`	`iwikiwi: hello eye wee kee wee`
`17:47.25`	`ankitg`	`dqminh: you in .sg as well or vietnam?`
`17:47.40`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: where does vietnam come in picture?`
`17:47.51`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: just asking =P`
`17:48.31`	`dqminh`	`ankitg: sg although im vietnamese`
`17:48.47`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: ^^`
`17:48.56`	`dqminh`	`ankitg: which uni are you from ?`
`17:48.59`	`ankitg`	`dqminh: which uni ... NTU?`
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`17:49.04`	`iwikiwi`	`ajuonline, ajuba ajuba~`
`17:49.11`	`ankitg`	`dqminh: I am @ SMU`
`17:49.23`	`dqminh`	`ankitg: i'm from nus`
`17:49.43`	`ankitg`	`dqminh: which program: New Media // CS // ... ?`
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`17:50.04`	`dqminh`	`ankitg: IS :D`
`17:50.32`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: was that a guess?`
`17:50.53`	`ankitg`	`haoyu: ping`
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`17:51.08`	`haoyu`	`hi ankitg :)`
`17:51.33`	`ankitg`	`haoyu: meet dqminh ... a GSoCer from NUS`
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`17:51.53`	`haoyu`	`ah, hello dqminh :)`
`17:52.07`	`dqminh`	`haoyu: hey`
`17:52.10`	`haoyu`	`another GSoCer from NUS :)`
`17:52.35`	`ajuonline`	`remind me to apply to NUS maybe next year. if I am still int he mood`
`17:52.35`	`ankitg`	`dqminh: haoyu will be joining NUS next sem`
`17:52.39`	`haoyu`	`knows Eugene already`
`17:52.59`	`ankitg`	`haoyu: Eugene the student or Mentor?`
`17:52.59`	`dqminh`	`haoyu: for master/phd ?`
`17:53.15`	`haoyu`	`ankitg, how about your GSoC?`
`17:53.24`	`haoyu`	`dqminh, for SoC PhD`
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`17:54.07`	`ankitg`	`haoyu: not this year ... Berkman had too many good proposals ... they didn't even have time to comment on them =(`
`17:54.40`	`omniter`	`is there anyone from ontario, canada?`
`17:55.19`	`haoyu`	`well.. what a pity :(`
`18:00.23`	`lh`	`ajuonline: ping`
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`18:01.35`	`ian_mac_`	`I'm from Ontario`
`18:01.40`	`ian_mac_`	`omniter:`
`18:01.43`	`ian_mac_`	`why?`
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`18:02.03`	`alanp`	`ian_mac_: hey, I'm in Windsor`
`18:02.05`	`ajuonline`	`lh: yeah?`
`18:02.12`	`omniter`	`i'm in Kingston. from Toronto.`
`18:02.13`	`ian_mac_`	`ahh live in Hamilton`
`18:02.16`	`alanp`	`cool`
`18:02.22`	`ian_mac_`	`work in Burlington`
`18:02.23`	`omniter`	`oh just curious. haven't seen any on the list, so`
`18:02.39`	`alanp`	`I started #gsoc-ca, 2 people joined, saw just me and left`
`18:02.43`	`alanp`	`so let's build a base :)`
`18:02.47`	`omniter`	`LOL!`
`18:02.57`	`omniter`	`sure`
`18:03.03`	`alanp`	`We have the third highest number of students iirc`
`18:03.17`	`ian_mac_`	`really?`
`18:03.26`	`omniter`	`nope. i don't think third`
`18:03.32`	`lh`	`ajuonline: let me make you owner of this group. i trust you to send out relevant announcements and keep order.`
`18:03.37`	`omniter`	`maybe 4th`
`18:03.39`	`lh`	`ajuonline: what addy should i use?`
`18:03.47`	`ajuonline`	`lh: same as my nick on gmail`
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`18:04.39`	`omniter`	`yepp, canada was 4th`
`18:04.41`	`borja`	`lh: ping`
`18:04.47`	`omniter`	`after US, India, Germany`
`18:04.53`	`alanp`	`Germany beat us?`
`18:04.55`	`alanp`	`:(`
`18:05.04`	`omniter`	`haha. yeah...`
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`18:06.08`	`omniter`	`wow, i knew india had lots of madly skilled programmers, but coming in second and beating germany by a factor of two... pretty impressive.`
`18:06.36`	`Catfish_Man`	`omniter: actually that's somewhat impressive for germany, given the ratio of total populations`
`18:06.41`	`lh`	`borja: pong`
`18:06.43`	`lh`	`ajuonline: danke`
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`18:07.11`	`borja`	`lh: I need five lh minutes, would you prefer before the TOS meeting or after?`
`18:07.33`	`omniter`	`Catfish_Man, i was thinking that too, but i thought that might be a faulty connection between the population and the number of applications accepted.`
`18:07.43`	`omniter`	`i mean, the US has 212 :p`
`18:08.09`	`lh`	`ajuonline: you haz access`
`18:08.15`	`mateolan_`	`omniter, Catfish_man: sorry I just joined, where are the stats you are looking at?`
`18:08.15`	`lh`	`borja: depend on what you need them for.`
`18:08.16`	`omniter`	`but i guess that's cause it's a US-based program.`
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`18:08.28`	`borja`	`lh: Chicago meetup`
`18:08.30`	`lh`	`borja: pm, if it needs to wait will let you know. how's that? :)`
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`18:08.34`	`lh`	`borja: yeah pm i can take this now`
`18:08.36`	`omniter`	`mateolan_, oh just the number of accepted applications from each country`
`18:08.45`	`Catfish_Man`	`mateolan_: I have no idea`
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`18:09.23`	`mateolan_`	`omniter: where did you get those numbers--are they publicly accessible?`
`18:09.33`	`omniter`	`mateolan_, yes they are`
`18:09.39`	`mateolan_`	`omniter: or perhaps by university?`
`18:09.48`	`omniter`	`http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/21/1352249&from=rss`
`18:09.52`	`haoyu`	`ah.. meetup!`
`18:09.54`	`omniter`	`no i don't think they're published by university`
`18:09.59`	`mateolan_`	`omniter: thanks!`
`18:10.10`	`haoyu`	`can we have Google office visit earlier this year?`
`18:10.49`	`omniter`	`sorry for my ignorance, but what country are "Kiwis" from? new zealand? or is there a country called kiwi? :S`
`18:11.00`	`mateolan_`	`NZ is correct`
`18:11.05`	`omniter`	`oh okay heh`
`18:11.18`	`mateolan_`	`greeat place`
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`18:14.52`	`ankitg`	`haoyu: earlier might be better for you ... no Google engineering office in Singapore =P`
`18:16.08`	`haoyu`	`ankitg, right, that's my concern :p`
`18:16.27`	`haoyu`	`ankitg, but there is a Google office in SG, what's that for?`
`18:16.39`	`ankitg`	`haoyu: marketing and stuff ...`
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`18:23.10`	`dberkholz`	`ad sales`
`18:23.16`	`dberkholz`	`just guessing here.`
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`18:26.48`	`pygi`	`hi folks`
`18:26.53`	`haoyu`	`ankitg, but it is still worthful to visit if the Google SG office has foods! :D`
`18:26.57`	`pygi`	`anyone here from Barcelona or somewhere nearby? :)`
`18:27.16`	`ankitg`	`haoyu: no food .. only mini-kitchen =)`
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`18:27.58`	`haoyu`	`ankitg, and chef?`
`18:28.18`	`ankitg`	`haoyu: none, unless you planning to apply :D`
`18:28.27`	`bobbens`	`pygi: I am`
`18:28.45`	`haoyu`	`ankitg, ah.... that's too bad :p`
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`18:30.05`	`pygi`	`bobbens, how is germany nearby ? :p`
`18:30.19`	`bobbens`	`you got fooled by the vserver`
`18:30.23`	`bobbens`	`I'm in barcelona :)`
`18:30.34`	`bobbens`	`but my irssi screen is in germany`
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`18:32.04`	`pygi`	`bobbens, wanna organize a gsoc meetup somewhere next month? :)`
`18:32.10`	`pygi`	`I'll be there from 25th until 30th`
`18:32.11`	`pygi`	`:)`
`18:32.33`	`bobbens`	`do you live in barcelona? we had one last year`
`18:32.37`	`bobbens`	`only 3 of us came :P`
`18:32.40`	`pygi`	`bobbens, I don't, I am from Croatia`
`18:32.42`	`bobbens`	`ah`
`18:32.51`	`pygi`	`and I wanna meet some of fellow GSoCers from Barcelona`
`18:32.55`	`bobbens`	`there's not many :)`
`18:33.17`	`bobbens`	`if you can set it up I might be able to come`
`18:33.26`	`pygi`	`I can't set it up xD`
`18:33.32`	`pygi`	`I know nothing of Barcelona or its GSoCers :D`
`18:33.37`	`bobbens`	`I'm a bit overloaded with work atm`
`18:34.17`	`pygi`	`hehe`
`18:34.23`	`bobbens`	`and I know barely anything of barcelona gsocers :)`
`18:34.27`	`bobbens`	`since I'm not even a CS student :)`
`18:34.30`	`pygi`	`hehe :D`
`18:34.33`	`bobbens`	`and not many industrial engineers do GSoC :)`
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`18:39.04`	`pygi`	`bobbens, :p`
`18:39.57`	`lh`	`Landon: there is a kansas city thread on the meetups list dude, jump on`
`18:40.05`	`pygi`	`lh, !`
`18:41.15`	`lh`	`pygi: hola`
`18:41.25`	`mateolan_`	`lh: let me know how I can help with the admin announce list`
`18:42.50`	`lh`	`mateolan_: talk to ajuonline, he's spearheading that effort`
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`18:43.56`	`ajuonline`	`thats the student announce list- right?`
`18:44.09`	`mateolan_`	`is there a central location where we can query to find others from our region/university?`
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`18:45.24`	`Landon`	`lh: ! homework first :(`
`18:45.28`	`ajuonline`	`mateolan_: not yet.`
`18:45.35`	`Landon`	`I slept in today, figuring I'd work on it during classes`
`18:45.41`	`Landon`	`instead of goofing off during classes`
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`18:45.57`	`mateolan_`	`ajuonline: I'd be happy to help with that--and think it would be really useful`
`18:46.20`	`ajuonline`	`mateolan_: great :) hang on.`
`18:47.05`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: I am also hanging :P`
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`18:47.45`	`ajuonline`	`lh: pm`
`18:47.59`	`pygi`	`lh, I can get the wiki up and running pretty much`
`18:48.11`	`pygi`	`if there's need for it?`
`18:48.15`	`ajuonline`	`yo pygi that is what we need!`
`18:48.17`	`lh`	`pygi: there is go for it`
`18:48.19`	`lh`	`thanks!`
`18:48.27`	`pygi`	`ajuonline, what wiki you want?`
`18:48.42`	`lifeeth`	`pygi, doku wiki - simple and lean`
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`18:48.53`	`lh`	`likes media wiki`
`18:48.59`	`ajuonline`	`pings danderson`
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`18:49.25`	`ankitg`	`likes media wiki ... has heard nice things about twiki too ...`
`18:50.50`	`haoyu`	`any reason we don't use google group's built-in wiki?`
`18:51.07`	`lh`	`haoyu: since when does groups have a built in wiki?`
`18:51.24`	`lh`	`haoyu: if you are talking about the pages section, we could use it. i just hate it. no revision control.`
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`18:52.28`	`pygi`	`lh, ajuonline : so what, mediawiki?`
`18:52.30`	`haoyu`	`ah?`
`18:52.50`	`haoyu`	`just not realized there's no revision control in the pages function`
`18:53.11`	`haoyu`	`so I agree we really need a wiki :)`
`18:53.18`	`ajuonline`	`pygi: the last years students wiki was dokuwiki.`
`18:53.26`	`ajuonline`	`is used to DokuWiki :P`
`18:53.26`	`devilsadvocate`	`moinmoin :P`
`18:53.32`	`pygi`	`you know what folks ....`
`18:53.36`	`pygi`	`you'll never agree on anything`
`18:53.39`	`pygi`	`I'll choose wiki xD`
`18:53.49`	`lh`	`i dont care what wiki, i want a wiki.`
`18:53.56`	`lifeeth`	`devilsadvocate, :D`
`18:54.01`	`lh`	`pygi: your call. make sure editing help is linked to from wiki in useful way please.`
`18:54.23`	`torbenh3`	`wants a git wiki with non-linear history`
`18:54.23`	`mateolan_`	`likes pygi's style`
`18:55.00`	`ajuonline`	`hugs pygi`
`18:55.12`	`ajuonline`	`i dont mind :P`
`18:56.01`	`ajuonline`	`pygi: last year we had a directory password/commmon info not shared outside the private students mailing list. and each user was signed up and approved by admin. i guess here u :P`
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`18:57.11`	`lh`	`wanders out of this channel to go attend meeting elsewhere on the irc`
`18:57.18`	`lh`	`please dnd for the next hour`
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`18:57.56`	`pygi`	`ajuonline, I have no problem to give you admin access`
`18:58.01`	`pygi`	`mateolan_, ^_^`
`18:58.28`	`ajuonline`	`pygi: of course you dont. :P`
`18:58.40`	`ajuonline`	`pygi: set it up and pm ;)`
`18:59.04`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`moin :)`
`19:00.23`	`lifeeth`	`ThomasWaldmann, Your org can set it up :)`
`19:01.07`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`we could, sure. is it wanted?`
`19:01.22`	`lifeeth`	`pygi, ^`
`19:01.23`	`lifeeth`	`:)`
`19:02.37`	`pygi`	`lifeeth, you want to make my efforts obsolete? :p`
`19:03.08`	`lifeeth`	`pygi, Well they are the moin wiki group .. They will be more than happy :)`
`19:03.18`	`pygi`	`lifeeth, if they want to do it, ...`
`19:03.20`	`pygi`	`ThomasWaldmann, ?`
`19:04.08`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`i can set up a wiki in a glance (i run a farm anyway, one more or less doesn't matter :)`
`19:04.48`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`(but i dislike setting up wikis that won't be used, so maybe agree on it first)`
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`19:06.04`	`pygi`	`ThomasWaldmann, it'll be used`
`19:06.19`	`haoyu`	`ah? Why you say google group pages don't have revision control?`
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`19:06.27`	`haoyu`	`at least it has a simple one`
`19:07.03`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`pygi: you're not from google, are you?`
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`19:07.29`	`pygi`	`ThomasWaldmann, no, but uhm, lh said we need a wiki few moments ago?`
`19:07.38`	`pygi`	`no need to be bitter, thank you very much :)`
`19:07.54`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`lh: wanna have a moin wiki hosted at our site?`
`19:08.18`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`is not bitter :)`
`19:08.27`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`except if you eat me`
`19:08.46`	`ankitg`	`lh is away with a "dnd for an hour" notice ...`
`19:09.10`	`ajuonline`	`ok guys settle down on the wiki - fast :P`
`19:09.16`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`well, I guess we can survive for an hour with having that pending`
`19:09.33`	`pygi`	`ThomasWaldmann, ....`
`19:09.38`	`pygi`	`do you want me to c/p the lines lh said? :D`
`19:10.08`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`read backlog, ok, wait a minute ...`
`19:10.21`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`pygi: soc.moinmo.in ?`
`19:10.32`	`pygi`	`ThomasWaldmann, affirmative`
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`19:12.52`	`ajuonline`	`ThomasWaldmann: once done, please pm me the admin details?`
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`19:15.15`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`sets it up right now`
`19:15.21`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`ajuonline: what do you mean?`
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`19:15.49`	`summatusmentis`	`ohi`
`19:16.13`	`pygi`	`ThomasWaldmann, you should give admin rights to ajuonline`
`19:16.21`	`pygi`	`and he'll distribute the rights to other people that should have it`
`19:16.43`	`devilsadvocate`	`ThomasWaldmann, basically he'll need to be on an admingroup with rights to edit it`
`19:16.54`	`devilsadvocate`	`if i understand it correctly`
`19:17.18`	`devilsadvocate`	`or possibly a superuser`
`19:19.14`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`ajuonline: does the wiki have nonpublic parts or why do you need admin?`
`19:19.36`	`summatusmentis`	`you don't really wanna see the wiki's nonpublic parts >_>`
`19:19.53`	`summatusmentis`	`goes back to being appropriate while lurking`
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`19:20.13`	`ajuonline`	`ThomasWaldmann: this is a private students wiki. students have open access.`
`19:21.04`	`ajuonline`	`ThomasWaldmann: admins needed to just see if the users are really students from the student list or not, i think :)`
`19:21.08`	`ajuonline`	`like last year`
`19:21.35`	`ajuonline`	`wakes up danderson`
`19:21.44`	`ajuonline`	`danderson: dude, you are needed now :P`
`19:21.50`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`ok, so we need a StudentsGroup`
`19:22.02`	`danderson`	`hm?`
`19:22.21`	`danderson`	`please state the nature of the emergency`
`19:22.22`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`and the general puplic can't read the wiki?`
`19:22.38`	`Landon`	`my cat is in a tree :(`
`19:22.43`	`devilsadvocate`	`danderson, voyager? :P`
`19:22.43`	`ajuonline`	`danderson: we are trying to set up the students wiki, like last year.`
`19:23.17`	`danderson`	`are we talking about the wiki I host?`
`19:23.32`	`ajuonline`	`danderson: yes. isnt that the private students wiki from 2008?`
`19:23.37`	`danderson`	`yeah`
`19:23.40`	`ajuonline`	`danderson: cant we just re-use that?`
`19:23.42`	`danderson`	`so, what is needed?`
`19:23.44`	`danderson`	`yes, we can`
`19:23.55`	`tito`	`obama inside.`
`19:24.10`	`ajuonline`	`danderson: so let us do that? how can I help?`
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`19:24.17`	`danderson`	`well, I'm still confused`
`19:24.25`	`danderson`	`what exactly is it that you need from me here? :)`
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`19:24.28`	`danderson`	`the wiki is up and all`
`19:24.38`	`danderson`	`if you don't mind having the data from last year. Else I can purge it.`
`19:24.41`	`ajuonline`	`danderson: hrm, so we dont need to set another up right?`
`19:25.15`	`ajuonline`	`danderson: like the students mailing list, lets have the data back there. we can just arrange the name spaces for 2009?`
`19:25.32`	`ankitg`	`lol ajuonline calm down before we end up with a GSoC Student 2009 wiki farm!`
`19:25.49`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: you want a new one? :/`
`19:26.05`	`ajuonline`	`let others see how it was last year? and follow ?`
`19:26.18`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`.oO(that's what I meant with setting unused wikis...)`
`19:26.19`	`danderson`	`ajuonline: again, where do I fit into all of this? Once logged in, the wiki is open-house editing`
`19:26.24`	`danderson`	`you can reorganize as much as you want :)`
`19:26.34`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`+up`
`19:26.53`	`ajuonline`	`danderson: ok thanks. so we dont need to set a new one up. how do we get the new students in there? ;)`
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`19:27.33`	`danderson`	`I'll just change the global access password and spam the student list with the info`
`19:27.45`	`danderson`	`all the students for this year should be on, yes?`
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`19:28.15`	`ajuonline`	`yo!`
`19:28.17`	`ajuonline`	`not yet -`
`19:28.25`	`ThomasWaldmann`	`deletes everything again`
`19:28.29`	`ajuonline`	`few are having problems - with access. but i think we should be good to go.`
`19:28.30`	`devilsadvocate`	`danderson, in the interest of minimising traffic, could you wait a day or so before sending the email lest it get lost in the hello spam?`
`19:28.34`	`ajuonline`	`ThomasWaldmann: sorry. and thank you :)`
`19:29.14`	`Corsix`	`lh: any idea on how long it should take to get a gmail address added to the students list?`
`19:29.21`	`danderson`	`devilsadvocate: can be done. I'll hold off for 24hrs`
`19:29.36`	`ajuonline`	`danderson: +1 for that. for now, just reset it and pass it on to me, so that i can share with others who wanted to help sort the content?`
`19:29.39`	`danderson`	`ajuonline: if you want to start messing around, do you remember the password from last year, or shall I give a new one?`
`19:29.42`	`danderson`	`ok`
`19:29.45`	`danderson`	`stand by`
`19:29.48`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: we may need setup some structure before opening it up so that the folks can find their way between new and old stuff ...`
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`19:35.55`	`danderson`	`ajuonline: ping`
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`19:37.26`	`lut4rp`	`aha, I just got added to the list.`
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`19:37.39`	`lut4rp`	`thanks, admins :)`
`19:37.51`	`ajuonline`	`danderson: sorry i got cut off`
`19:38.02`	`ajuonline`	`danderson: yes please pm me the pass :/ i forgot it again :D`
`19:38.45`	`lut4rp`	`um, wtf? i still can't access the list. :(`
`19:39.04`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: yeah. you up to help for it - right?`
`19:39.27`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: where do I sign?`
`19:39.32`	`ankitg`	`=)`
`19:40.12`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: you already know the link. let me pass you the info`
`19:40.55`	`ochot`	`Corsix: I asked this morning and lh already changed it, so I suggest you wait a day or two...I bet she has a lot of stuff to do now`
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`19:41.27`	`lut4rp`	`I just received a mail from Leslie that i was added to the list, but i still can't access it :)`
`19:46.46`	`Corsix`	`ochot: I asked 19 hours ago`
`19:47.22`	`ochot`	`Corsix: You sent email? Or just IRC?`
`19:47.33`	`Corsix`	`ochot: email`
`19:47.38`	`ochot`	`hmm...`
`19:47.45`	`Corsix`	`hence the IRC query now :)`
`19:48.17`	`ochot`	`uhm...maybe she has FILO approach to emails :-)`
`19:48.43`	`lut4rp`	`heh`
`19:48.49`	`lut4rp`	`i just remailed her :/`
`19:48.57`	`ochot`	`I wouldn't do that`
`19:49.06`	`ochot`	`remember there are ~1k students`
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`19:49.18`	`ochot`	`it must be extremely noisy for her`
`19:49.20`	`smtms`	`we should re-mail with exponential back-off ;-)`
`19:49.35`	`lut4rp`	`ochot, i got the her mail that she added me, but i still can't access the list :)`
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`19:49.57`	`smtms`	`lut4rp, how do you try to access it?`
`19:49.58`	`ochot`	`lut4rp: are you sure? After she changed mine everything worked as a charm`
`19:50.29`	`alanp`	`lh, I have to say, your replies to some of the stupid questions and mistakes on the list are absolutely hilarious.`
`19:51.13`	`ochot`	`alanp: she's a saint in my eyes...I am not nearly as patient`
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`19:51.44`	`lut4rp`	`ochot, tried this http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list`
`19:51.58`	`lut4rp`	`I still get an invite-only message`
`19:52.04`	`lut4rp`	`smtms, ^`
`19:52.08`	`araujo`	`hello`
`19:52.14`	`ochot`	`lut4rp: ok...and are you logged in in your google account?`
`19:52.23`	`lut4rp`	`ochot, yes, i am.`
`19:52.40`	`lut4rp`	`i tried logging out and re-logging in`
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`19:52.57`	`diegoe`	`lut4rp: like you were with a non gmail address and you were added with a gmail one?`
`19:53.19`	`diegoe`	`was in the same situation, still waiting`
`19:53.19`	`smtms`	`lut4rp, after logging in with your account?`
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`19:53.28`	`lut4rp`	`diegoe, no, i have only one gmail address and it has been mentioned everywhere, including my first mail to Leslie :)`
`19:53.33`	`diegoe`	`ah`
`19:53.37`	`lut4rp`	`smtms, yes, of course :)`
`19:53.58`	`diegoe`	`well I'm subscribed as @gnome.org but that disables me from accessing the google group, i asked and she told me to wait till i get added`
`19:55.24`	`ajuonline`	`diegoe: and all, you can create a Google Account with a non-gmail/google email address as well.`
`19:55.28`	`ajuonline`	`to have web access`
`19:55.34`	`diegoe`	`:o`
`19:55.35`	`ajuonline`	`http://google.com/account`
`19:56.00`	`ajuonline`	`has a google account with a yahoo.com address as well`
`19:56.02`	`diegoe`	`i would prefer to avoid that, since i actually have a google account already (@gmail.com)`
`19:56.17`	`ajuonline`	`diegoe: problems, problems. meh :P`
`19:56.27`	`diegoe`	`:P`
`19:56.39`	`ochot`	`ajuonline: some people (e.g. me) already had google account but supplied other email for contact information (I used email on my own domain, which happens to be Google Apps for Domain)`
`19:56.40`	`ajuonline`	`diegoe: you can then mail the alternative email to leslie`
`19:56.59`	`Corsix`	`ochot: same setup as me then`
`19:57.02`	`diegoe`	`yeah i think that's what she said she queued, my @gmail.com address to be added so i can use that instead`
`19:57.15`	`ajuonline`	`ochot: google apps - does not mean a Google Account. I have one too, but still needed to create it as a Google Account , iirc`
`19:57.18`	`Corsix`	`and I just decided to set my domain email as the tertiary email on my google account`
`19:57.20`	`ajuonline`	`but I have been wrong before.`
`19:57.42`	`ochot`	`ahf: yes of course, I just thought that there was something specific. As I see that was not the case`
`19:57.44`	`diegoe`	`ochot: did that work for you?`
`19:57.47`	`ankitg`	`... many times ...`
`19:58.06`	`diegoe`	`ochot: i also added my non gmail address to my google account but google groups still doesn't see me as the same person`
`19:58.07`	`ajuonline`	`X(`
`19:58.30`	`diegoe`	`realizes he's not reading the backlog of the channel in the right order`
`19:58.32`	`ochot`	`diegoe: wait...you added alias in preferences?`
`19:58.47`	`ochot`	`diegoe: because that would not solve the problem AFAIK`
`19:59.06`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: were you able to get in to the wiki yet?`
`19:59.06`	`Corsix`	`diegoe: I had to associate it as an alias, then re-login using the alias`
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`19:59.12`	`ajuonline`	`and pygi ?`
`19:59.20`	`pygi`	`ajuonline, ?`
`19:59.23`	`pygi`	`me what me? :D`
`19:59.32`	`ajuonline`	`pygi: are you in the wiki yet?`
`19:59.33`	`diegoe`	`Corsix: well it's in my email addresses list, as a secondary email`
`19:59.35`	`diegoe`	`does that count?`
`19:59.35`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: got distracted ;) ...`
`19:59.36`	`pygi`	`ajuonline, no...`
`19:59.48`	`pygi`	`I'm lazy, I told ya :p`
`19:59.54`	`ajuonline`	`kids`
`19:59.54`	`Corsix`	`diegoe: yes, thats what I mean. After setting it, logout, and login using it`
`20:00.03`	`diegoe`	`tries`
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`20:00.08`	`Corsix`	`worked for me, YMMV`
`20:00.13`	`ajuonline`	`mateolan_: you got mail.`
`20:00.19`	`diegoe`	`oh`
`20:00.28`	`ochot`	`I never tried logging in with my alternate emails`
`20:00.41`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: lol ... you got my mail on the GSoC-in ML?`
`20:01.09`	`ochot`	`ok...gotta grab beer with friends...friday night is friday night. later...`
`20:01.31`	`diegoe`	`Corsix: fun, it logs me as @gmail.com anyway, but now it works`
`20:01.40`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: no, checking`
`20:01.43`	`diegoe`	`perhaps just a matter of logout login again...?`
`20:02.10`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: ok i am in the wiki. it works fine for me. you need to check and let me know as well :P`
`20:02.39`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: we decided to use this new mailing list :/`
`20:03.01`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: Will do .. unless I get distracted again ... oh look shiny!`
`20:03.01`	`diegoe`	`Corsix: did you mail this to list? perhaps we should?`
`20:03.30`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: http://groups.google.com/group/gsoc-india?hl=en your mails of the meetup should go here`
`20:04.21`	`ajuonline`	`lol @ #`
`20:04.21`	`ajuonline`	`LH, who will not accept photos of you drinking beer as proof you are a student`
`20:04.47`	`alanp`	`what?`
`20:04.54`	`ankitg`	`ajuonline: no wonder ... why new ML // group?`
`20:05.32`	`ajuonline`	`ankitg: that was 08 specific? and the owner never responded when I mailed.`
`20:06.04`	`ankitg`	`hopes he was not the owner =P`
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`20:12.04`	`lh`	`okay i got pinged`
`20:12.08`	`lh`	`Corsix: unknown working on a fix`
`20:12.12`	`lh`	`who else needed something?`
`20:13.07`	`ajuonline`	`lh: we decided to use the last years student wiki. :) will mail the student list once the noise goes down a bit.`
`20:13.44`	`ajuonline`	`lh: thanks to danderson :)`
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`20:14.24`	`lh`	`ajuonline: woot.`
`20:14.28`	`lh`	`hugs danderson`
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`20:27.58`	`Corsix`	`diegoe: have not posted this to the list`
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`20:51.40`	`lh`	`!timeline`
`20:51.41`	`socinfo`	`"timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline`
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`20:53.46`	`pygi`	`lh, so when do I get op powers? :p`
`20:53.48`	`pygi`	`hides`
`20:55.23`	`lh`	`pygi: not now. :)`
`20:55.31`	`pygi`	`lh, you're not cool at all :p`
`20:56.00`	`lh`	`pygi: nope, i suck. completely. ought to be rode out of town on a rail.`
`20:56.22`	`pygi`	`lh, :P`
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`21:05.42`	`jaguarandi`	`12hour clock system looks stupid :o`
`21:05.54`	`jaguarandi`	`learned now that 12:00am means midnight`
`21:06.21`	`ajuonline`	`sets mode +o pygi`
`21:06.24`	`Landon`	`I dislike the system too`
`21:06.24`	`ajuonline`	`there. there.`
`21:06.29`	`Landon`	`the changes at midnight and noon always confuse me`
`21:06.43`	`pygi`	`kicks ajuonline ....`
`21:06.45`	`jaguarandi`	`luckily i learned before the deadline :D xD`
`21:06.45`	`ajuonline`	`Landon: look at the other window`
`21:07.44`	`p_l`	`ajuonline: when you are in your nuke-proof lair, it's rather hard to notice ;-)`
`21:09.10`	`ajuonline`	`p_l: ? err i dont get it :D`
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`21:09.43`	`p_l`	`ajuonline: it's hard to check whether 12:00 means noon or midnight if your other window shows you your server room ;-)`
`21:10.39`	`ajuonline`	`p_l: oh that :P i was asking Landon to check pm :P`
`21:10.57`	`p_l`	`hahaha`
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`21:19.30`	`ajuonline`	`pygi: what? you kicked? I gave you ops! at least, i mean however I could :P`
`21:19.42`	`pygi`	`ajuonline, ...`
`21:19.44`	`pygi`	`good night xD`
`21:20.51`	`loufoque`	`p_l: midnight is 00:00, not 12:00`
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`21:21.43`	`loufoque`	`also, wouldn't happen if you used a 24h system`
`21:22.15`	`p_l`	`loufoque: I'm always using 24h, so I don't know what rules am/pm uses for midnight/noon`
`21:22.35`	`p_l`	`which can cause problems for me, since I'm now in AM/PM country like UK`
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`21:22.47`	`jaguarandi`	`loufoque, not according to wiki`
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`21:23.13`	`jaguarandi`	`loufoque, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock <= first hour of day = 12:00am`
`21:23.21`	`jaguarandi`	`then it goes on to 1:00am .. etc..`
`21:26.38`	`loufoque`	`sorry then`
`21:26.43`	`loufoque`	`bit confusing though`
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`21:29.26`	`apinto`	`24H ftw`
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`21:35.28`	`ajuonline`	`hails EllenKo`
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`21:36.45`	`t0mppa`	`hi all, could someone help me on how to limit all the stuff ending up in my mailbox now that I got accepted into the gsoc 2009?`
`21:37.10`	`t0mppa`	`today I got 600 new mails, mostly from the introduce yourself thread`
`21:37.57`	`summatusmentis`	`it's kinda up to you`
`21:38.56`	`ArthurLiu`	`t0mppa, select all mail, mark read`
`21:39.06`	`ajuonline`	`:P`
`21:39.21`	`t0mppa`	`and?`
`21:39.23`	`ajuonline`	`is working on this problem`
`21:39.32`	`summatusmentis`	`t0mppa: you can change you google groups settings to only send a digest`
`21:39.39`	`summatusmentis`	`ajuonline: I've got mine manageable`
`21:39.47`	`summatusmentis`	`gmail mute is awesome :)`
`21:39.55`	`ajuonline`	`summatusmentis: its the announce only list.`
`21:39.56`	`ajuonline`	`:P`
`21:40.01`	`t0mppa`	`ah, so it's from the groups`
`21:40.18`	`t0mppa`	`i'll go do that, thanks`
`21:40.47`	`sivaji`	`seen lh?`
`21:40.52`	`ArthurLiu`	`I have this:`
`21:40.53`	`ArthurLiu`	`if header :contains "List-Id" ["google-summer-of-code-students-list.googlegroups.com"] {`
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`21:41.24`	`ajuonline`	`sivaji: did I not answer you completely?`
`21:41.28`	`ajuonline`	`ask`
`21:42.44`	`sivaji`	`ajuonline, my college is 30km away from my home, i am thinking whether i need to go and get letter from my college.?`
`21:43.03`	`ajuonline`	`sivaji: from what you told me, i think so. yes,`
`21:43.12`	`ajuonline`	`sivaji: do you have the latest marksheet or anything?`
`21:44.01`	`sivaji`	`ajuonline, simple logic i have my ID card which implies that i am enrolled to college isn't it ?`
`21:44.18`	`ajuonline`	`sivaji: but date isnt there - right?`
`21:44.21`	`lh`	`sivaji: what's up?`
`21:44.23`	`ajuonline`	`validity etc?`
`21:44.28`	`sivaji`	`ajuonline, yes`
`21:44.44`	`sivaji`	`lh, i have mailed you with my queires`
`21:45.10`	`kblin`	`hail lh`
`21:45.48`	`loufoque`	`t0mppa: the most straightforward way is to go to the web interface for the group, and select not to send any email.`
`21:45.55`	`lh`	`sivaji: i see.`
`21:45.59`	`loufoque`	`t0mppa: you can still follow what's going on on the web interface`
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`21:46.11`	`lh`	`sivaji: so woud you like to wait for me to respond or do you need an answer right now?`
`21:46.21`	`sivaji`	`ajuonline, there is not date`
`21:46.33`	`sivaji`	`lh your wish`
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`21:47.09`	`sivaji`	`...no date`
`21:47.33`	`t0mppa`	`loufoque: thanks, I set it on digest e-mail only for the moment`
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`21:48.16`	`ArthurLiu`	`I will never understand why people delete mails..`
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`21:50.09`	`lh`	`sivaji: how about you wait then. :)`
`21:50.14`	`lh`	`goes back to filing an expense report`
`21:50.25`	`sivaji`	`lh ok`
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`21:54.55`	`lh`	`sivaji: thanks`
`21:55.06`	`sivaji`	`lol`
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`22:02.58`	`lh`	`sivaji: no it is not sufficient. you need something that shows you were enrolled as of 20 pairl 2009. since there is no clue on your student ID card, you will need to provide other proof of enrollment`
`22:03.02`	`lh`	`archives email`
`22:03.25`	`sivaji`	`lh, ok`
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`22:04.25`	`t0mppa`	`Ah, changed the gmail address as my main addie, so the mail goes there instead of my school box, now it's easily handlable. Thanks for the help and nights.`
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`22:07.35`	`lh`	`borja: ellen ko is taking care of sending our your update`
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`22:20.45`	`borja`	`lh: I saw it. A student contacted me exactly two minutes after it ;-)`
`22:22.11`	`lh`	`borja: the ellen is the awesome`
`22:22.12`	`lh`	`:)`
`22:22.18`	`borja`	`nods to lh`
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`23:03.36`	`Dark_Aaron`	`ohai`
`23:03.38`	`Dark_Aaron`	`;o`
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`23:15.31`	`lh`	`leaves to go home and triage melange bugs`
`23:15.33`	`lh`	`ttyl everyone`
`23:15.49`	`Catfish_Man`	`bye lh`
`23:16.34`	`lh`	`Corsix: if your subscription is still messed up, please email me`
`23:16.38`	`lh`	`Catfish_Man: bye for now`
`23:16.42`	`lh`	`sneaks away`
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`23:22.34`	`[[xXx]]`	`hi guys`
`23:22.39`	`[[xXx]]`	`I have one question`
`23:23.16`	`[[xXx]]`	`is there any statistics available with the complete list of all the participating countries of GSoC 2009?`
`23:23.35`	`[[xXx]]`	`I would like to write an article about it, and I would love to have the full statistics`
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`23:26.22`	`[[xXx]]`	`anyone????`
`23:27.35`	`hypa7ia`	`[[xXx]]: i'm not sure that those stats are out yet`
`23:27.42`	`hypa7ia`	`they certainly are for previous years`
`23:27.54`	`[[xXx]]`	`aham`
`23:28.03`	`[[xXx]]`	`could you point me to some links`
`23:28.30`	`hypa7ia`	`it should be easily googleable, i'm not going to search for you :)`
`23:28.39`	`[[xXx]]`	`:)`
`23:28.42`	`[[xXx]]`	`ok I can do that`
`23:28.46`	`[[xXx]]`	`10x`
`23:28.55`	`hypa7ia`	`:)`
`23:29.37`	`Trotsky`	`anyone brazilian?`
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`23:40.40`	`ochot`	`Trotsky: is anyone who spent 6 months in Portugal and knows handful of Brazilian people enough? :-)`
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`23:42.22`	`Trotsky`	`ochot: se vocÃª conseguir ler isso, serve ;)`
`23:43.24`	`ochot`	`Trotsky: hardly :-) Better find someone who can really read/write Portuguese :-)`
`23:43.54`	`nuba`	`Trotsky: what for?`
`23:44.16`	`ochot`	`to socialize I guess...`
`23:45.10`	`ochot`	`Brazil is 2nd or 3rd country as far as numer of participants is concerned so I guess there are a lot of Brazilian students/mentors around`
`23:45.31`	`Trotsky`	`I would like information on how to participate in the summer of codes, but read / write in English all the time is exhausting`
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`23:45.46`	`nuba`	`well english is IT's lingua franca`
`23:45.55`	`ochot`	`Trotsky: little practice never hurts :-)`
`23:45.57`	`nuba`	`you better get used to it, really`
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`23:46.25`	`ochot`	`Trotsky: you are one of accepted students right?`
`23:47.08`	`Trotsky`
`23:47.09`	`Trotsky`	`not, is the first time I seek information about the soc, I would like to know what I need to do to participate`
`23:47.17`	`ochot`	`ah, ok...`
`23:47.18`	`nuba`	`Trotsky: you cant skimp there, a good command of the language is critical interacting smoothly with peers worlwide`
`23:47.19`	`BigBambi`	`wait for a year`
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`23:47.40`	`nuba`	`critical when*`
`23:48.58`	`ochot`	`Trotsky: ah ok, that changes things a bit...`
`23:49.40`	`ochot`	`Trotsky: but as nuba already said, at least basic knowledge of English is mandatory since you'll be in contact with people from all around the world`
`23:50.18`	`ochot`	`so hang around, ask questions and you'll be prepared next year`
`23:51.28`	`ochot`	`Trotsky: but if you really want someone from Brazil to speak to...I guess we could manage. I noticed few people from Brazil talking on private mailing list. I could play matchmaker :-)`
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