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| 01:21.58 | Caio | hi |
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| 01:28.31 | Ori_B | hi |
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| 01:33.21 | Caio | im a foreign student, can anyone help me with a term? |
| 01:33.44 | Caio | some institution asked from me a "School Cache" |
| 01:34.01 | Caio | what's a School Cache document? I Googled it and nothing! |
| 01:34.16 | Landon | I've never heard of it |
| 01:34.16 | Landon | :\ |
| 01:34.22 | Landon | what country is the institution in? |
| 01:37.58 | Caio | China... it's a translated Application Form |
| 01:38.15 | Caio | they translated themselves, i guess ¬¬ hehe |
| 01:38.45 | Landon | hm |
| 01:38.52 | Caio | . Diploma and transcripts (issued directly by the educational administration office of the school/university, and with a school cache); Applicants for undergraduate studies are required to provide notarized copy of senior high school transcripts. Documents in language other than Chinese or English must be attached with notarized translations in Chinese or English; Applicants for Masters or Doctorate Degree are required to submit two letters o |
| 01:39.11 | kpreid | In context, I'm thinking they meant "seal" |
| 01:39.13 | Caio | aww man... who knows what's this School Cache |
| 01:40.41 | kpreid | That is, they want it to be a document which is marked as official |
| 01:40.43 | Caio | is it the document that contains your notes(like 0 to 10 per discipline), records, etc? |
| 01:41.00 | Caio | the "seal", i mean |
| 01:41.02 | kpreid | My theory is that they want the diploma and transcripts to be marked |
| 01:41.23 | kpreid | as being the official documents, that is |
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| 01:41.58 | Caio | "seal" is the high school transcript then? |
| 01:42.03 | kpreid | NO |
| 01:42.15 | joeyadams | <joeyadams> in the accepted documentation confirmation list: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgxfqnqn_59gmg7rpd6 , I only see a "Tax Forms?" column. Where can we see if our proof of enrollment was accepted? |
| 01:42.37 | Landon | I believe it's both |
| 01:42.45 | Caio | hmm |
| 01:43.00 | kpreid | Caio: my interpretation, which again I say is just a guess, is that the phrase "with a school cache" does not mean an additional document but a mark on the documents the parenthetical is describing |
| 01:43.12 | kpreid | That mark being one which is specific to the school, and indicates they are official documents |
| 01:43.25 | Caio | hmm |
| 01:43.26 | kpreid | And "cache" is some weird etymological/obscure-synonym translation |
| 01:43.29 | Caio | makes sense |
| 01:43.30 | skbohra | joeyadams: its both |
| 01:43.34 | kpreid | Ah |
| 01:43.51 | kpreid | Caio: Look up "cachet" in a dictionary... |
| 01:43.56 | Caio | i'll send both high school and university transcripts |
| 01:44.09 | kpreid | It's a typo or mistranscription combined with using an archaic word, that's all |
| 01:44.19 | joeyadams | skbohra> Thanks |
| 01:44.24 | Caio | thanks guys |
| 01:44.34 | Caio | thank you veeeery much |
| 01:44.45 | kpreid | Again, I am not a translator, this is not expert linguistic advice, etc etc. But I think I'm right :) |
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| 01:45.34 | eliel | Did someone receive the fedex tracking number? (I know it could take longer, I would like to know if some people start receiving it) |
| 01:45.42 | Caio | You got the right interpretation |
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| 01:46.02 | skbohra | eliel: I didn't yet |
| 01:46.20 | kpreid | I haven't |
| 01:46.32 | Caio | i was thinking about School Cache as a School Transcript.... if you google "school cache" you get NOTHING, if you google "school cachet" it makes sense |
| 01:47.07 | eliel | skbohra: kpreid: ok, thanks |
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| 01:47.10 | kpreid | Caio: The trick is to have vague knowledge of archaic expressions :) |
| 01:47.22 | kpreid | Be interested in etymology |
| 01:47.54 | Caio | thanks! |
| 01:47.55 | ojwb | when did they make "cachet" archaic? |
| 01:48.27 | kpreid | ojwb: meaning "seal", not "perceived value"? |
| 01:48.40 | ojwb | oic |
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| 02:32.47 | Landon | !next |
| 02:32.47 | socinfo | "next" is Time to start bonding with your community: http://tinyurl.com/community-bonding |
| 02:33.12 | skbohra | :) time to change the !next |
| 02:33.59 | Landon | heh yeah |
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| 05:18.31 | summatusmentis | !timeline |
| 05:18.32 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 05:18.53 | araujo | hello |
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| 05:19.10 | araujo | wonders if people is already receiving the tracking numbers |
| 05:19.30 | summatusmentis | we're really supposed to start on a saturday? |
| 05:19.40 | araujo | yeah |
| 05:19.52 | summatusmentis | that seems weird, ok, I guess |
| 05:19.59 | araujo | hah |
| 05:20.02 | araujo | why weird? |
| 05:20.18 | summatusmentis | well, you'd think they'd start it on a Monday, or sometime during the week |
| 05:20.29 | summatusmentis | I don't know, maybe it's just my "american brain" |
| 05:20.30 | araujo | ah |
| 05:21.22 | ojwb | I suspect it's probably allowing for many mentors having day jobs |
| 05:21.59 | summatusmentis | I guess that makes sense, but what about students whose girlfriends also have day jobs? :-P |
| 05:22.01 | ojwb | though ideally students will have asked all the questions they need to get started during the bonding period |
| 05:22.43 | summatusmentis | speaking of, I should look at that, and at least have a starting point |
| 05:22.53 | summatusmentis | just got off of finals, and have been winding down |
| 05:23.11 | ojwb | a starting point for your girlfriend? |
| 05:23.40 | kblin | morning |
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| 05:23.52 | summatusmentis | ojwb: haha, no, a starting point for GSoC |
| 05:24.06 | summatusmentis | starting point for the girlfriend was my cute face >_> |
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| 05:25.12 | kblin | say, is there any shortcut in python to check if two values are both in a collection or is "if val_a in collection and val_b in collection:" the way to go? |
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| 05:52.24 | asmeurer | (x and y) in (x, y, z) seems to work |
| 05:52.35 | Landon | sleep |
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| 05:56.02 | ojwb | um, (x and y) is y, unless x is false |
| 05:56.18 | ojwb | so "seems to" is the key bit of that wording |
| 05:56.44 | ojwb | python -c 'print (7 and 2) in (1,2,3)' |
| 05:56.45 | ojwb | True |
| 05:56.50 | r0bby | where has lh been |
| 05:56.52 | r0bby | she's been awol |
| 05:57.10 | Catfish_Man | vacation |
| 05:57.13 | scorche | on vacation |
| 05:58.31 | r0bby | she deserves it! |
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| 06:02.04 | r0bby | I assume our names are going on the cards this year |
| 06:02.16 | r0bby | (learning from last year's mistakes...) |
| 06:02.32 | asmeurer | (x and y) in (x, y, z) -> True |
| 06:02.41 | asmeurer | (x and y) in (x, z) -> False |
| 06:03.11 | asmeurer | but you are probably right |
| 06:05.45 | asmeurer | you could try using all and some kind of iterator |
| 06:06.48 | kblin | I used the long form |
| 06:10.04 | thebolt | hm, i could express it in scheme with a list comprehension.. not sure how to do the same in python (or with a map and a reduce |
| 06:10.36 | kblin | shrugs |
| 06:11.58 | kblin | I think the code's pretty readable this way: http://rafb.net/p/R9RehJ27.html |
| 06:12.30 | kblin | and I certainly spent more time figuring out what color I want the conservative mutations to be in |
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| 06:12.41 | thebolt | hehe |
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| 06:12.44 | kblin | than I did coding that piece, I mean |
| 06:14.46 | Ori_B | the best I can come up with is ['a', 'b'] == sorted([x for x in list if x == a or x == b]) |
| 06:14.49 | Ori_B | god, that's ugly |
| 06:15.19 | Ori_B | (by best, I mean most compact without repeating list.) |
| 06:15.50 | kblin | ew |
| 06:16.12 | Ori_B | it's also 2 AM and I'm tired :P |
| 06:16.18 | kblin | fair enough |
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| 06:16.57 | kblin | looks less efficient, as well :) |
| 06:17.01 | Ori_B | probably best to just use a function :) |
| 06:17.26 | Ori_B | or 'x in lst and y in lst and z in list' |
| 06:17.55 | kblin | Ori_B: I did the latter |
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| 06:20.33 | kblin | of course efficiency isn't that much of a problem if max(n) is 4 |
| 06:22.07 | Ori_B | well, the whole "what the fuck IS that ugly crap" is a problem |
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| 06:24.04 | Ori_B | goes to bed. |
| 06:24.17 | kblin | night |
| 06:24.39 | kblin | it sure needs comments to explain what it is about |
| 06:24.42 | kblin | like... |
| 06:25.03 | kblin | # show off that I'm really smart |
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| 20:45.56 | r0bby | this is adorable |
| 20:46.08 | r0bby | The surprise gift is nothing for me :X |
| 20:46.53 | skbohra1 | must be useful for persons like me |
| 20:47.10 | r0bby | I have a full student membership :) |
| 20:47.21 | skbohra1 | aah |
| 20:47.28 | skbohra1 | in that case |
| 20:48.33 | skbohra1 | that's a bad surprise for you |
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| 20:49.09 | Landon | wonders what he set his address to |
| 20:49.22 | ajuonline | Landon: i can lend you mine. |
| 20:49.26 | Landon | :P |
| 20:49.33 | sivaji | hats that gift |
| 20:49.42 | r0bby | sigh i just sent acm an email |
| 20:49.46 | sivaji | hates* |
| 20:50.01 | r0bby | eh I'm gonna get my membership extended lol |
| 20:50.08 | r0bby | it'll be only a couple months... |
| 20:50.15 | r0bby | or however they decide to do it... |
| 20:50.40 | Landon | lovely, I forgot to put a shipping address |
| 20:51.21 | skbohra1 | in that contact address==shipping address |
| 20:51.58 | Landon | hah nice gift |
| 20:52.47 | r0bby | yeh |
| 20:52.48 | r0bby | :( |
| 20:52.50 | r0bby | :X |
| 20:52.57 | allisterb | well |
| 20:53.07 | Landon | skbohra1: oh true, but that goes to my dorms >.< extra delay |
| 20:53.10 | Landon | since they have to forward |
| 20:53.12 | allisterb | maybe some people last year had the book already too |
| 20:53.33 | Landon | then they can gift it :P |
| 20:55.03 | ajuonline | they did. iirc |
| 20:56.23 | allisterb | can't believe it's the 20th already. Termination Salvation is tomorrow. |
| 20:56.58 | Landon | ugh |
| 20:56.58 | Landon | :P |
| 20:57.28 | ajuonline | this year the card has a 3% currency exchange fee |
| 20:57.36 | ajuonline | from the card vendor itself ? |
| 20:57.59 | ajuonline | well watever |
| 20:58.04 | ajuonline | forex is complex. |
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| 20:59.52 | Landon | oh man the ACM discount on safari books is cool |
| 20:59.55 | Landon | but its still a buttload of money |
| 20:59.56 | Landon | :P |
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| 21:01.40 | r0bby | :< |
| 21:01.45 | r0bby | OHH |
| 21:01.50 | r0bby | we get safari on this |
| 21:02.03 | r0bby | sighs |
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| 21:02.22 | Landon | r0bby: not that I see |
| 21:02.40 | Landon | books 24x7 is avalable for student accounts though |
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| 21:03.32 | r0bby | NICE our names on it this year1 |
| 21:03.41 | r0bby | mine doesnt include it |
| 21:04.20 | Landon | http://pd.acm.org/books/books.cfm |
| 21:04.22 | ajuonline | i have safari access using my athens account |
| 21:04.22 | Landon | looking at that |
| 21:04.36 | r0bby | sigh im not paying |
| 21:04.37 | skbohra1 | r0bby: cheer up, it's a gift :) |
| 21:04.46 | r0bby | skbohra1: I dont need two accounts... |
| 21:04.51 | r0bby | I barely use the one I have! |
| 21:04.55 | r0bby | and i paid $62 for it! |
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| 21:05.10 | Landon | ajuonline: my school has a few safari boooks through the engineering library |
| 21:05.14 | Landon | useless stuff though |
| 21:05.18 | Landon | like Mac OS X the hidden manual |
| 21:05.22 | Landon | :( |
| 21:06.03 | r0bby | heh |
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| 21:07.16 | Landon | doh, I gave the dorms the wrong zipcode for forwarding |
| 21:07.28 | Landon | I hope they see the question mark and check it |
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| 21:09.55 | r0bby | :X |
| 21:09.59 | r0bby | Landon: call them? |
| 21:10.45 | Landon | thinks they're smart cookies |
| 21:10.52 | Landon | if not, surely some flags will go up at the post office :P |
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| 21:19.31 | Landon | sad, jeopardy contestants almost didnt get salmon of doubt -> douglas adams |
| 21:22.07 | xevix | hah, people kept trying to force me into the ACM, and now even a free account is pushing it |
| 21:22.23 | xevix | i guess it's really hard to stay out of the mafia |
| 21:22.25 | skbohra1 | :) you got to have it |
| 21:23.03 | xevix | just like they keep trying to get me to join IEEE |
| 21:23.18 | r0bby | the IEEE is too expensive |
| 21:23.23 | xevix | i'm satisfied with linkedin personally =p |
| 21:23.29 | r0bby | and even then i dont get access to their digital librar w/ my membership |
| 21:23.34 | r0bby | I have to pay SEPERATE |
| 21:23.43 | r0bby | ACM gives it for the duration of your membership no charge |
| 21:24.07 | r0bby | slides xevix a nice glass of kool-aid |
| 21:24.09 | r0bby | drink it |
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| 21:24.15 | xevix | no~ |
| 21:24.19 | r0bby | DRINK IT! |
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| 21:24.31 | r0bby | All the cool kids are doing it! |
| 21:24.35 | xevix | throws it across the room and watches it detonate |
| 21:24.37 | xevix | o_O |
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| 21:25.42 | xevix | but yeah, i don't really do a lot of online journal reading |
| 21:26.07 | kblin | does |
| 21:26.12 | xevix | i guess it's cheaper/easier than shipping a book everywhere across the world though |
| 21:26.37 | r0bby | i dont either :) |
| 21:26.38 | kblin | would do more if my university had a subscription to nature biotech. |
| 21:26.54 | r0bby | I have an ACM membership for the sheer uhm... just for the name :) |
| 21:26.54 | kblin | and a couple of other journals in that area |
| 21:27.23 | kblin | but no, we have a ton of humanities subscriptions.. |
| 21:27.35 | xevix | sounds similar to my uni, haha |
| 21:27.47 | xevix | but i guess we do have lots of arbitrary subscriptions that are of no use to me |
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| 21:28.39 | kblin | that's why I love open-access journals |
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| 21:42.52 | z4chh | does ellen ko use irc? |
| 21:43.12 | z4chh | i just want to thank her for her sweet emails >.< |
| 21:44.00 | kblin | z4chh: sometimes, but not as often as lh does |
| 21:44.01 | ajuonline | very rarely. |
| 21:44.09 | ajuonline | you can always email her. |
| 21:44.15 | kblin | yeah |
| 21:45.06 | kblin | Or wave at the google sattelite and say "thank you ellen ko". the google sattelite surveillance dept. will notice and pass it on |
| 21:46.08 | ajuonline | kblin: you need sleep :D |
| 21:46.13 | kblin | hm, the google squad that just kicked down my door asked me to tell you there's no google sattelites |
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| 21:46.40 | kblin | as they speak softly and carry big guns, I'm inclined to believe them |
| 21:46.45 | z4chh | kblin, or wave into my webcam that google switched on when i got into gsoc? |
| 21:46.56 | z4chh | ;p |
| 21:47.08 | kblin | and what ajuonline said certainly applies as well |
| 21:47.16 | kblin | z4chh: that'd be silly |
| 21:47.26 | z4chh | ;p |
| 21:48.30 | kblin | anyway, sleep sounds like a good idea |
| 21:48.33 | kblin | tada |
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| 21:49.28 | allisterb | Google should have squads for real |
| 21:50.24 | ajuonline | kblin: sleep well :) |
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