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| 00:55.14 | rbger | as a student am i allowed to add people except the mentor to my project? |
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| 01:01.44 | rbger | as a student am i allowed to add additional people except the mentor to my project? |
| 01:02.01 | summatusmentis | asking your question over and over won't get it answered faster |
| 01:02.15 | rbger | ok |
| 01:02.27 | summatusmentis | I don't know the answer, but stick around |
| 01:02.44 | rbger | ok |
| 01:09.13 | ojwb | it needs to be clear what is and isn't your work |
| 01:09.41 | ojwb | you certainly aren't allowed to "subcontract" your project |
| 01:10.17 | ojwb | many students are working on a branch in the project's VCS |
| 01:10.36 | ojwb | sounds like you have your own VCS somewhere |
| 01:10.49 | rbger | VCS? |
| 01:10.53 | rbger | we use SVN |
| 01:11.06 | ojwb | VCS is a generic term |
| 01:11.09 | summatusmentis | Version Control System |
| 01:11.09 | ojwb | version control system |
| 01:11.11 | rbger | alright |
| 01:11.14 | rbger | got it |
| 01:11.57 | rbger | so it means, i can add people when they are interested to contribute.? |
| 01:12.34 | ojwb | it shouldn't be a problem, provided it's clear what you wrote and didn't |
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| 01:12.43 | ojwb | and SVN should show that |
| 01:12.56 | rbger | alright i got that :) |
| 01:13.01 | ojwb | has to go out now |
| 01:13.11 | rbger | okay bye ojwb |
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| 01:42.44 | Hasbro | Hi |
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| 01:45.02 | summatusmentis | hi Hasbro |
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| 03:08.02 | jpapciak | Hello all |
| 03:10.13 | Hasbro | Hi |
| 03:11.11 | Hasbro | a/s/l please |
| 03:11.22 | summatusmentis | Hasbro: seriously? |
| 03:11.34 | Hasbro | sure? |
| 03:11.43 | summatusmentis | why? |
| 03:12.01 | Hasbro | Is this not Google Sexually oriented Chat? |
| 03:12.51 | summatusmentis | kblin: you around? |
| 03:13.01 | summatusmentis | not so much, no |
| 03:13.01 | Hasbro | Cant take a joke? |
| 03:13.21 | summatusmentis | couldn't tell if you were joking |
| 03:13.21 | r0bby | jesus |
| 03:13.25 | Hasbro | rofl |
| 03:13.28 | Hasbro | Relax, I was |
| 03:13.39 | r0bby | Hasbro: that was slightly funny |
| 03:13.43 | Hasbro | Was it? :) |
| 03:13.44 | summatusmentis | I was like "someone trolling #gsoc"? |
| 03:13.51 | Hasbro | lol |
| 03:13.52 | summatusmentis | maybe I need to chill out |
| 03:13.59 | Hasbro | ^ |
| 03:13.59 | r0bby | I spent the evening writing code -- looking at and saying that it looked overly complex |
| 03:14.12 | r0bby | http://pastie.org/private/qle1qp18x2omrqmwwrg6q |
| 03:14.12 | Hasbro | r0bby, for GSOC? |
| 03:14.15 | r0bby | it was that |
| 03:14.16 | r0bby | yes |
| 03:14.57 | Hasbro | What language is that? |
| 03:15.02 | summatusmentis | dude... I've been fighting with system dependent code, where there are three different implementations of the same function depending on the system |
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| 03:15.23 | r0bby | Java |
| 03:15.24 | Hasbro | summatusmentis, what function? |
| 03:15.32 | Hasbro | Fugly :P |
| 03:15.56 | r0bby | Hasbro: it's not that bad |
| 03:16.04 | Hasbro | Your code or the language? :D |
| 03:16.06 | r0bby | considering i realized i could clean it up significantly :) |
| 03:16.09 | r0bby | My code was |
| 03:16.15 | r0bby | I couldn't trace it |
| 03:16.32 | summatusmentis | Hasbro: it's rxi_SetServerIPRank, in the OpenAFS codebase |
| 03:16.44 | Hasbro | Should ask the creator to rewrite the codebase, lulz |
| 03:17.15 | Hasbro | Does the function differ on Unix/Mac? |
| 03:17.23 | r0bby | http://pastie.org/private/cxaurdwk7ok0bcbdkwea |
| 03:17.25 | r0bby | cleaner :) |
| 03:17.36 | Hasbro | It's still in Java, lol |
| 03:17.51 | summatusmentis | Hasbro: there are like, 10 different Unices supported by OpenAFS |
| 03:18.11 | Hasbro | Unixes? |
| 03:18.31 | r0bby | Hasbro: this is for OpenMRS (http://openmrs.org) |
| 03:18.58 | summatusmentis | Hasbro: different flavors of Unix |
| 03:19.19 | Hasbro | Aids? |
| 03:19.20 | Hasbro | lol |
| 03:19.25 | Hasbro | summatusmentis, interesting |
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| 03:20.00 | summatusmentis | Hasbro: yeah, so there are reasons it's system dependent, it's just annoying |
| 03:20.00 | thebolt | summatusmentis: nice :) i tried to begin writing a simulator for a non-existing CPU last night but realized I need a better spec of it first (ie.. i need to write down the spec more clearly: P) |
| 03:20.14 | summatusmentis | ha |
| 03:21.02 | Hasbro | summatusmentis, in the application I work on we simply do things such as: |
| 03:21.05 | Hasbro | moment, I'll pull up an example |
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| 03:24.05 | Hasbro | If Visual Studio 2010 would stop freezing, I would show you lol, moment |
| 03:24.13 | summatusmentis | 2010? |
| 03:24.16 | thebolt | only thing worse than writing something platform/cpu specific is writing something platform/cpu-specific for an unknown platform/cpu ;) |
| 03:24.34 | Hasbro | it's like, simple #ifdef checks |
| 03:24.34 | Hasbro | like |
| 03:24.35 | summatusmentis | thebolt: ha, how can it be unknown? |
| 03:24.35 | Hasbro | #ifdef WIN32 |
| 03:24.46 | Hasbro | #else |
| 03:25.03 | summatusmentis | Hasbro: yeah, it's just annoying, lots and lots of duplication |
| 03:25.06 | Hasbro | look in WinDef.h |
| 03:25.07 | Hasbro | :D |
| 03:25.16 | Hasbro | and zconf.h iirc |
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| 03:25.18 | thebolt | summatusmentis: it doesn't exist yet |
| 03:25.23 | thebolt | summatusmentis: i am designing it ;) |
| 03:25.30 | summatusmentis | ha, oh |
| 03:25.34 | summatusmentis | and this is for GSoC? |
| 03:25.51 | Hasbro | wait, you're creating a cpu as well? |
| 03:26.21 | thebolt | summatusmentis: no no |
| 03:26.31 | thebolt | summatusmentis: just for fun :) |
| 03:26.33 | summatusmentis | oh |
| 03:26.33 | thebolt | Hasbro: yes? |
| 03:26.41 | summatusmentis | you're not even getting paid? :-P |
| 03:26.41 | Hasbro | Interesting |
| 03:26.53 | Hasbro | Why are you designing a cpu if I may as |
| 03:26.54 | Hasbro | k |
| 03:27.01 | thebolt | summatusmentis: nah, mainly to get good experience with it, and keep up my digital design skills |
| 03:27.15 | summatusmentis | thebolt: digital design, gorss |
| 03:27.17 | summatusmentis | gross* |
| 03:27.29 | summatusmentis | I like low levels sytems stuff, not sure I like that low level |
| 03:27.32 | Hasbro | digital design? |
| 03:28.11 | Hasbro | Like, designing a board digitally? |
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| 03:28.13 | r0bby | Hasbro: wait you're using C#? |
| 03:28.19 | r0bby | and you call java ugly :P |
| 03:28.21 | Hasbro | no r0bby |
| 03:28.23 | thebolt | summatusmentis: well, i study applied phyiscs & ee ;) but yea, my interest is just on the border hardware-software, configurable hardware, SoC applications etc |
| 03:28.23 | Hasbro | C++ |
| 03:28.26 | Hasbro | with some C |
| 03:28.28 | r0bby | same shit :) |
| 03:28.35 | thebolt | Hasbro: no, designing digital (integrated) circuits |
| 03:28.39 | Hasbro | not exactly r0bby |
| 03:28.40 | thebolt | Hasbro: as opposed to analog ones |
| 03:28.44 | summatusmentis | thebolt: oh, I'm CS and Spanish :) |
| 03:28.50 | r0bby | summatusmentis: ick :< |
| 03:28.52 | summatusmentis | r0bby: hey now, C is decent |
| 03:28.57 | summatusmentis | ick what? |
| 03:29.08 | r0bby | summatusmentis: I just hate that people pass judgement on java |
| 03:29.11 | r0bby | w/o having a clue :) |
| 03:29.19 | summatusmentis | heh |
| 03:29.31 | summatusmentis | I wish Java made you think about memory more |
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| 03:29.39 | Hasbro | Then it wouldn't be called Java |
| 03:29.49 | summatusmentis | s/more/at all/ |
| 03:29.57 | Hasbro | ^ |
| 03:29.59 | Hasbro | that's funny |
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| 03:32.30 | summatusmentis | :-P |
| 03:32.36 | summatusmentis | I kid, but seriously. |
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| 05:07.05 | summatusmentis | Landon: ping? |
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| 07:46.55 | Landon | summatusmentis: HOW DARE YOU PING ME :( |
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| 08:27.44 | dukeleto | !next |
| 08:27.44 | socinfo | "next" is July 6: Mentors and students can begin submitting mid-term evaluations. |
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| 09:11.26 | r0bby | oh crap |
| 09:11.47 | r0bby | so much for a relaxing 4th of july weekend =( |
| 09:12.05 | ecin | Only if you decide to do most of your work around the deadline. :P |
| 09:12.33 | r0bby | ive worked 7 days a week |
| 09:13.23 | r0bby | i cant for the life of me figure out why my code is failing :( |
| 09:16.28 | ecin | Well, if your'e still getting acquainted with a source base, this type of trouble will only diminish as the program goes on. |
| 09:17.14 | r0bby | NOO |
| 09:17.20 | r0bby | i know the code :) |
| 09:17.29 | r0bby | it's an odd thing |
| 09:17.34 | r0bby | it worked like an hr ago |
| 09:17.36 | r0bby | not so much now |
| 09:17.40 | r0bby | logs dont tell me shit |
| 09:20.35 | r0bby | im going to bed |
| 09:20.39 | r0bby | ill deal w/ this laster |
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| 09:26.38 | r0bby | wow i just reviewed all the changes i made; NOTHING would be a breaking change |
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| 09:27.59 | r0bby | http://dilbert.com/dyn_file/str_strip/57004/gif/strip.print/ |
| 09:28.01 | r0bby | <3 |
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| 09:43.10 | llml | r0bby: No hurry. I believe you need a little rest. Design is very important, so think it over before rush to coding. |
| 09:46.24 | kblin | I've found that for me, sleeping a night usually helps finding bugs |
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| 18:38.23 | lesshaste | hi all |
| 18:38.36 | lesshaste | how would I find which pidgin projects are in gsoc 2009? |
| 18:40.08 | smtms | by going to the GSoC page, then finding the list of mentoring organizations, then finding pidgin |
| 18:40.26 | lesshaste | smtms: sounds obvious but that route didn't work for me |
| 18:40.29 | lesshaste | however I found http://socghop.appspot.com/org/home/google/gsoc2009/pidgin |
| 18:44.38 | smtms | lesshaste, which is not what you were looking for? |
| 18:44.55 | lesshaste | smtms: it's perfect.. now I am just trying to find some actual information |
| 18:45.03 | lesshaste | e.g. a blog or somesuch for the projects |
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| 18:45.38 | smtms | lesshaste, I'd start from a pidgin page then |
| 18:45.45 | smtms | lesshaste, and look at wikis and mailing list archives |
| 18:45.50 | lesshaste | smtms: thanks |
| 18:46.01 | smtms | lesshaste, finding a pidgin IRC channel may also help |
| 18:46.12 | lesshaste | smtms: I'm on that, thanks |
| 18:46.38 | lesshaste | wow apache got a LOT of students! |
| 18:47.59 | smtms | lesshaste, they are an "umbrella" organization |
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| 23:13.48 | tcoppi | w 2 |
| 23:15.44 | Landon | fail tcoppi fail |
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| 23:21.07 | r0bby | that is all. |
| 23:21.54 | Landon | taquitos go |
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| 23:58.21 | r0bby | hrm is the point of midterm to evaluate whether or not students will stick it out til midterm? |
| 23:58.25 | r0bby | :X |
| 23:58.31 | r0bby | er past |