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| 02:48.44 | Landon | summatusmentis: this blows :\ |
| 02:48.49 | Landon | line went down in my backyard |
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| 03:22.28 | summatusmentis | Landon: well, if you didn't live in kasnas |
| 03:22.59 | Landon | >.> |
| 03:23.47 | Landon | well, I guess the food wont eat itself before it spoilers |
| 03:23.59 | Landon | -er |
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| 11:33.00 | azolex | yo people |
| 11:33.06 | azolex | i am 15 years old |
| 11:33.15 | azolex | is there way for me to join gsoc? |
| 11:33.26 | ojwb | wait 3 years |
| 11:33.29 | schumaml | in three years, maybe |
| 11:33.31 | azolex | ah shit |
| 11:33.32 | azolex | lol |
| 11:33.34 | schumaml | but there's ghop |
| 11:33.40 | azolex | ghop? |
| 11:34.08 | schumaml | http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/ |
| 11:34.31 | schumaml | you'll have to do the reading yourself, I know hardly anything besides its name |
| 11:34.35 | Mek | I think <18 can actually be a mentor in gsoc (at least in the past) :P |
| 11:34.57 | summatusmentis | yeah, if you're good, there's no reason you can't be a mentor |
| 11:34.59 | schumaml | yep, mentoring is possible |
| 11:35.18 | schumaml | although the projects themselves might set up some restrictions |
| 11:35.41 | azolex | can i run my own project? alone? |
| 11:35.52 | summatusmentis | azolex: no, not really |
| 11:35.56 | azolex | oki |
| 11:36.11 | schumaml | it would be very hard to get selected for soc then |
| 11:36.18 | summatusmentis | GSoC is designed so you work within an existing open source community |
| 11:36.34 | azolex | i was thinking |
| 11:36.38 | azolex | about this other thing |
| 11:36.44 | azolex | The Google Highly Open Participation Contest |
| 11:36.49 | azolex | i dont want to read |
| 11:36.55 | azolex | but if i saw correctly |
| 11:37.04 | azolex | i need to sumbit patches to other projects? |
| 11:37.12 | summatusmentis | something like that yes |
| 11:37.16 | schumaml | if you don't want to read, then neither gsoc nor ghop is for you |
| 11:37.38 | azolex | i work in ehm |
| 11:37.38 | summatusmentis | or, not necessarily patches, but you submit something (documentation, patches, translation, etc.) |
| 11:37.47 | azolex | 3 or 4 patches? |
| 11:37.50 | scorche|sh | schumaml: saved me from saying it =) |
| 11:37.51 | azolex | i mean projects |
| 11:38.00 | azolex | open source and community teams so xD |
| 11:38.22 | summatusmentis | azolex: I don't really know that much about it, you should check out the details of GHOP yourself |
| 11:38.28 | schumaml | azolex: the organization does have to know you |
| 11:38.50 | azolex | there is no way for someone can create good patch for apache that is < 18 |
| 11:39.02 | schumaml | decide for yourself how this is achieved in the best possible way |
| 11:39.06 | scorche|sh | sure they can...and they dont need gsoc or ghop to do it |
| 11:39.14 | summatusmentis | apache doesn't usually participate in GHOP, but age doesn't matter |
| 11:39.25 | schumaml | well, some orgs might just decline patches from people < 18 for legal reasons |
| 11:39.35 | azolex | lol |
| 11:39.46 | summatusmentis | I suppose that's true |
| 11:39.54 | azolex | i <3 talented teens that pwn 18 ++ devs |
| 11:39.55 | azolex | lol |
| 11:39.59 | schumaml | or "< $legalageinyourjurisdiction" |
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| 11:40.36 | schumaml | azolex: and when the parents of the teens suddenly decide to pwn the orgs? |
| 11:41.06 | azolex | i never said they should apply patch xD |
| 11:41.11 | azolex | just saying |
| 11:41.14 | schumaml | this is the point that did convince me when the topic came up previously |
| 11:41.15 | summatusmentis | azolex: for what it's worth, if you're serious about this, development communities tend to look upon you better if you use full words and less symbols |
| 11:41.44 | summatusmentis | schumaml: the idea that the parents probably technically have copyright on the code? |
| 11:42.00 | schumaml | because parents tend to do the most stupid things if they think that it is for the good of their children |
| 11:42.19 | summatusmentis | well, that's fair, I guess |
| 11:43.03 | azolex | can i do like ehm |
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| 11:43.19 | summatusmentis | what is ehm? |
| 11:43.22 | azolex | sumbit patches to other google summer of code projects? |
| 11:43.34 | azolex | ehm? is ehm |
| 11:43.34 | azolex | lol |
| 11:43.35 | azolex | xD |
| 11:43.43 | summatusmentis | oh, it's a pause, ok |
| 11:43.51 | azolex | some kind |
| 11:43.51 | azolex | xD |
| 11:44.09 | summatusmentis | most open source projects will accept patches (assuming they're worthwhile) from anyone |
| 11:44.38 | summatusmentis | you don't need to participate in GSoC or GHOP to be a part of open source |
| 11:44.41 | scorche|sh | wonders if azolex has some sort of fascination with xD cards |
| 11:45.04 | azolex | summatusmentis that is why i <3 os xD |
| 11:47.13 | summatusmentis | azolex: I've gotta get back to coding, good luck |
| 11:47.27 | azolex | what langs do you guys code in? |
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| 12:12.08 | schumaml | azolex: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 12:12.17 | schumaml | this is the languages used in this year's soc |
| 12:12.50 | azolex | so ehm |
| 12:13.02 | azolex | so vb .net and C# are used? |
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| 12:18.55 | schumaml | I don't see vb.net there |
| 12:19.12 | azolex | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:19.35 | schumaml | yep, but have a look at their description |
| 12:21.05 | schumaml | SahrpDevelop might be the one that is closest, but even they do not mention coding *in* vb.net |
| 12:21.15 | schumaml | Sharp |
| 12:22.31 | azolex | heh thx to god |
| 12:22.42 | azolex | C# is not so popular in gsoc xD |
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| 12:25.43 | scorche|sh | well, .net stuff isnt that popular in FOSS stuff in general due to the whole proprietary/windows aspect (ignoring mono for now...) |
| 12:26.12 | azolex | xD |
| 12:26.18 | azolex | i dont like C# either |
| 12:26.24 | azolex | i code some tools in it |
| 12:26.28 | summatusmentis | ey, debian just included mono, you can't ignore it! |
| 12:26.28 | summatusmentis | >_> |
| 12:26.29 | azolex | but i am not its fun |
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| 12:27.01 | scorche|sh | and please stop saying "xD" every 5 lines or so...it is getting annoying... |
| 12:27.31 | russellb | xD |
| 12:27.37 | scorche|sh | ... |
| 12:27.38 | azolex | lol |
| 12:28.40 | azolex | i dont know, but i did not use to write smilys or ehms |
| 12:28.41 | azolex | lol |
| 12:28.43 | azolex | i do now |
| 12:29.06 | ojwb | rolls eyes |
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| 16:59.32 | azolex | ahem btw |
| 16:59.32 | azolex | http://code.google.com/p/airclib/ |
| 16:59.42 | azolex | my project someone might find it interesting :) |
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| 17:16.05 | ecin_ | azolex: Mind putting up some examples? That always gets people excited. :) |
| 17:16.46 | azolex | yes |
| 17:16.48 | azolex | already did |
| 17:16.54 | azolex | i think one small script |
| 17:17.00 | azolex | for using data types |
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| 18:14.16 | kendrick | whee! http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/06/happy-tux-paint-day/ :) |
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| 18:19.59 | Landon | kendrick: are you geekdad? |
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| 18:20.18 | kendrick | hm? no. |
| 18:20.24 | kendrick | that's some collaborative blog at wired |
| 18:20.29 | Landon | ah |
| 18:20.31 | kendrick | ironically, the blog post by was a mom :) |
| 18:20.36 | Landon | hah |
| 18:20.40 | Landon | 7 years of tuxpaint though! |
| 18:20.46 | kendrick | she's on my tuxpaint-news announcement list and saw my declaration of Tux Paint Day |
| 18:20.52 | Landon | thats a lot longer than I thought |
| 18:20.54 | kendrick | heh, yeah. in that case, i'm the geeky father of tux paint |
| 18:22.32 | kendrick | what's nice about being on that blog is (1) it appears in google news, and (2) other blogs pick it up, so it spreads :) |
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| 20:29.56 | harlan | Anybody know when lh might be around? |
| 20:30.07 | summatusmentis | no clue, if you need her, I'd email her |
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| 20:31.44 | ecin_ | Indeed. Her twitter mentions a trip of some sort. |
| 20:35.00 | summatusmentis | her twitter always mentions a trip ;P |
| 20:37.32 | kblin | speaking of trip, I need to phone my cousin |
| 20:39.19 | harlan | OK, thanks folks. |
| 20:40.50 | codestasherr | kblin ur not sleeping ? |
| 20:41.11 | kblin | codestasherr: at 22:41? heck no |
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| 20:41.35 | ecin | That's about the time I start getting serious of the day's work. |
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| 20:44.31 | codestasherr | kblin i am 4 hrs ahead of u |
| 20:44.46 | codestasherr | i thought was only 2 rs difference |
| 20:46.51 | kblin | hands codestasherr a box full of letters |
| 20:47.02 | kblin | you seem to be short on letters a bit |
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| 20:54.12 | codestasherr | lol(laughing out loud) thanks kblin(kai blin).. i think now i am overflowing with letters :) |
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| 21:35.00 | Mkop | kblin: how do you pronounce kai? to rhyme with bye? or to rhyme with hey? |
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| 21:38.56 | Ivanovic | Mkop: the first |
| 21:39.34 | Mkop | ok |
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| 21:41.26 | kblin | Mkop: what Ivanovic said |
| 21:42.03 | Mkop | what nationality are you? |
| 21:42.14 | kblin | German |
| 21:42.22 | Mkop | oh |
| 21:42.27 | kblin | but it's not a typical german name |
| 21:42.29 | Mkop | do you work for google there? |
| 21:42.34 | Mkop | it sounds more asian |
| 21:42.38 | kblin | I don't work for google at all |
| 21:42.39 | Mkop | Korean or something |
| 21:42.44 | Mkop | then how are you @? |
| 21:42.53 | Mkop | I thought only employees are @ |
| 21:42.59 | kblin | I think it exists in asia as well, but my version is celtic |
| 21:43.01 | Ivanovic | some trusted "external" people get op, too |
| 21:43.17 | kblin | Mkop: I bribed lh with candy |
| 21:43.44 | Ivanovic | that is: people working at google *automatically* get op (due to the mask) |
| 21:44.21 | Ivanovic | even if they don't work directly on SoC but are members of other projects and help SoC on their side (or just idle in here from a google box) |
| 21:44.27 | kblin | looking at the current user list, I'd say that half the ops aren't googlers |
| 21:44.45 | Ivanovic | jupp |
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| 21:45.59 | kblin | I think it's currently split like googlers, melange-devs, others |
| 21:47.11 | kblin | but I guess the only real requirement is that lh needs to like you :) |
| 21:47.23 | summatusmentis | hah |
| 21:48.23 | kblin | and I've not seen any students being oped |
| 21:48.48 | summatusmentis | I had ops during the whole "ask lh why you didn't get in" thing, but that was it |
| 21:49.10 | Mkop | why? |
| 21:49.22 | Landon | because he wasn't asking lh why he didnt get in |
| 21:49.24 | summatusmentis | was taking non-why-didn't-I-get-in questions |
| 21:49.24 | Landon | :P |
| 21:49.36 | summatusmentis | trying to be helpful |
| 21:49.58 | kblin | but technically no one was a student at that point :) |
| 21:50.26 | summatusmentis | I was a student, just not technically a part of GSoC :) |
| 21:50.47 | Landon | well wouldnt he have been a student? since he got in? >.> |
| 21:51.03 | summatusmentis | Landon: no, this was orgs |
| 21:51.07 | Landon | oh right |
| 21:51.09 | Landon | psh |
| 21:51.12 | summatusmentis | before students could even apply |
| 21:51.31 | Landon | I think electricity has corrupted me |
| 21:51.35 | Landon | I read a book today! a whole book! |
| 21:51.38 | Landon | before the power came back on |
| 21:51.52 | Landon | since the power came back on? I've been trying to internets on neighbors horrible wireless |
| 21:51.53 | summatusmentis | TORNADOS MAKE YOU READ?!? |
| 21:52.02 | kblin | summatusmentis: student as in "gsoc student" |
| 21:52.04 | Landon | wot |
| 21:52.05 | summatusmentis | new "teaching reading" technique right there |
| 21:52.05 | Landon | no tornados |
| 21:52.09 | summatusmentis | kblin: I know :) |
| 21:52.16 | Landon | a tornado would have been more exciting |
| 21:52.21 | summatusmentis | :-P |
| 21:52.22 | Landon | but it waws just straightline winds |
| 21:52.27 | Landon | that knocked a limb in to the powerline |
| 21:52.31 | Landon | (and cable line! >: ( |
| 21:52.43 | Landon | and now I've got to get cox out here to fix the cable too |
| 21:52.47 | summatusmentis | psh, Kansas |
| 21:52.52 | Landon | and all my freezepops unfroze |
| 21:52.52 | Landon | :( |
| 21:52.54 | kblin | Landon: that's why you put that stuff underground |
| 21:53.20 | Landon | heh yeah, it looks so haphazard |
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| 22:04.18 | r0bby | sighs |
| 22:06.41 | gangil | svn info |
| 22:07.01 | Landon | git pull |
| 22:07.09 | ChipX86 | svn: '.' is not a working copy |
| 22:07.12 | alanp | git status |
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| 22:07.27 | Landon | git rm * |
| 22:07.57 | summatusmentis | ChipX86: I get that error a lot, mostly because my project uses CVS |
| 22:07.59 | summatusmentis | >_> |
| 22:08.13 | Landon | har |
| 22:08.27 | Landon | I dunno what I'd do without git anymore |
| 22:08.28 | Landon | :( |
| 22:08.40 | Landon | svn is passable, since I can use git-svn :p |
| 22:09.34 | summatusmentis | Landon: OpenAFS is moving to git soon, but for some reason my fingers always type 'svn' when I mean 'cvs' |
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