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00:04.14[mharrison]Michael Jackson, he is dead
00:05.00Dark_Shikariindeed, the event was quite... a thriller
00:06.16[mharrison]Damned geek humor =P
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06:54.06kblinmorning dmitri
06:54.41dmitrig01kblin: hi
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10:10.08kblinack
10:11.06kblinanother couple of bricks for my microsoft wall
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10:14.11Landonis having coders block
10:14.11Landonogre forums are so darned interesting
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10:19.56LandonMaNI: well looks like I'm down to week2 wrt pushups >.>
10:20.25Landonactually, still where I was 2 weeks ago
10:20.45Landongood to know I'm not completely screwing myself over by taking this week or two off
10:20.45Landon:p
10:20.49MaNIlol
10:20.54MaNII can't get past week two day one
10:21.12Landonthree?
10:21.17MaNIno two :P
10:21.20Landonyou have like 9 days on week 2 :P
10:21.26MaNIyeah
10:21.32MaNII repeated the whole of week 1 basically
10:21.38MaNIgot back to week two and failed again
10:21.45MaNIand now I keep repeating it but keep failing ;p
10:21.48Landonheh
10:22.01MaNII'm 1 short so hopefully next time I will finally make it
10:22.30Landonpretty big variations there
10:22.51MaNIdon't know what is wrong with me
10:23.06LandonI seem to be plateauing on week 2/3 as well
10:23.36MaNIsitups on the otherhand I am managing fine
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10:50.24kblinLandon: just switch off IPv4
10:50.35Landonheh
10:50.41kblinthen your internet experience won't distract from work
10:50.46Landonwould be bad :)
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10:50.55LandonI end up looking up a ton of stuff in the ogre forums as well
10:50.56Landon>.<
10:51.04Landonfor legitimate purposes
10:51.12Landonwe need some kind of AI
10:51.12kblinI can google for stuff (ipv6.google.com) and I can read heise news, but that's about it
10:51.34kblinmy windows boxes are all bitching that they can't contact the microsoft update site
10:51.48kblintough luck for them, I guess :)
10:51.49Landonhah
10:53.28Chainsawkblin: You're on 2.6.31 with passive OS detection in iptables? ;)
10:54.10kblinChainsaw: no, I've just set up a win2k8 domain with a vista and a win7 client
10:54.28kblinand because all of those OSes hype IPv6, I turned off IPv4 on all of them
10:55.04ChainsawGood practise really.
10:55.11ChainsawYou should still be able to e-mail tony@vroon.org
10:55.57kblinI miss an option to tell google ipv6 search to show me results reachable via ipv6 only
10:56.35kblinand I need to figure out how to report a bug about the update stuff to microsoft
10:56.48Landonit's unpossible to report bugs to large companies anymore
10:56.59ChainsawLandon: Unless you know someone on the inside, it is indeed unlikely.
10:57.03Landontried to report one to facebook about chat status being broken
10:57.09Landonhad to dig for at least 30 minutes
10:57.29Landonand even then it was just a form to submit it in
10:57.35Landonwould have rather had an email address
10:57.40Landoneven though it [probably goes to the same place
10:59.23kblinhm, I've got a couple of @microsoft.com addresses in my mail client I could try ;)
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11:00.51Landon(btw if anyone uses facebook chat regularly and wants to play with peoples minds, the first word or maybe phrase enclosed in angle brackets ends up being the first word in the chat status :P)
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11:02.39kblinfacebook has a chat?
11:02.50ChainsawThere is a website called facebook?
11:03.04aghislawhat's a website?
11:03.08Landonwhy would I put my face in a book?
11:03.45kblinLandon: a facebook probably is a photo album
11:03.55Landonwhat if I say, take pictures of my butt
11:03.55aghislahates facebooks
11:04.00Landonand put them in this photo album
11:04.08Landonwould hate for people to believe that was my face
11:04.10aghislait would be a buttbook
11:04.15Landonaha
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11:04.33aghislathere's a hatebook somewhere in the web
11:04.45lifeethhatebook.com?
11:05.42LandonI think facebook chat has been a pretty good invention all in all though
11:06.06Landoninstead of having The People On AIM and The People On MSN, a majority of both groups can be found on fb chat
11:06.06lifeethinvention .. bleh
11:06.26Landonidea, my bad :P
11:06.50Landoncollection of previous ideas to further innovate on the facebook brand and bring untold synergy to users
11:07.02lifeethLet me tweet this :P
11:07.26Landonheh, twitter really hasn't taken off among my friends though :P
11:07.35Landonother than the techy-er types who are trying to force themselves to use it
11:07.38Landon(and lh)
11:08.30kblintwitter? I thought that was mostly used by misinformed kids to spread more misinformation
11:09.08kblinlike how swine flu eats your homework and how michael jackson was kidnapped by aliens from his home planet
11:09.09Landonkblin: the best part is they can do it while driving too!
11:09.18Landonand it's even more dangerous than talking on the phone :D
11:09.30kblinlike texting?
11:09.52kblinthat's a pretty expensive hobby around here if you get caught
11:09.53Landonwell, it is texting, so yes, "like" texting
11:09.57Landon:)
11:10.23kblinit's probably pretty expensive if you don't get caught as well
11:10.28Landonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tvl97ZBYlU
11:13.01kblindoethat's not ipv6 either ..
11:13.33Landonbasically someone texting while laying back on their bike
11:13.38Landonon the highway
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11:18.45kblinhmm, sixxs.org had an v6->v4 gateway..
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15:24.30MatthewWilkesok guys
15:24.39MatthewWilkesWho knows about discontinued copper/fibre converters?
15:24.52MatthewWilkesGot one here that is apparently still connected to a line going to a big office building
15:24.59MatthewWilkesbut we don't have the power supply for it
15:25.42MatthewWilkesit claims to be 15V / 1.24 A AC, 120V 0.23A AC, and 230V 0.12A AC in different places
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15:26.01MatthewWilkeswhat should I feed it that can be scavanged from around the office?
15:31.54ErantMatthewWilkes: Euh. The 15VAC sounds like a good plan
15:32.35MatthewWilkesErant: I'm suspicious of something with that much range
15:32.50ErantWhat kind of connector goes into it?
15:34.34MatthewWilkes3 pin, horizontal layout, approx 1mm square surface area for each pin
15:34.55MatthewWilkeswouldn't like to hook it up to 230V
15:37.34kpreidcan you post a picture of the connector?
15:39.25kpreidmaybe it takes AC and the reference to 15V is the signal level
15:41.10kpreidbut I think a picture of the connector is a good idea, likely someone will recognize it if it's standard
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15:42.48MatthewWilkeskpreid: http://twitter.com/matthewwilkes/status/2345388380 :)
15:43.04MatthewWilkesthe other ones are on the main label on the bottom
15:43.27kpreidthat looks like an oddball...
15:44.12kpreidwhere did you find the 120V/230V figures?
15:44.40MatthewWilkesthe PanDatel serial number sticker on the bottom, looks much more official than the one by the connector
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15:46.51kpreidmight be an ext power supply rating
15:47.03kpreidmultiplies to 27.6 watts
15:47.09kpreidwhereas the connector is 18.6 W
15:47.22MatthewWilkesindeed
15:47.33MatthewWilkesBut those usually go on the external supply
15:48.49kpreidaye
15:49.09kpreid... open it up and look at what sort of components the connector is wired to?
15:49.59MatthewWilkeshmm, yeah, probably going to have to
15:50.09MatthewWilkesIt was just left in the building that we moved into
15:50.21MatthewWilkesalong with a length of fibre that goes into the ground
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15:50.37MatthewWilkesand a sticker on it saying it's a specially layed line going to the big office building around the corner
15:50.40kpreidmaybe it doesn't work :-)
15:50.51MatthewWilkeswants to set up a FPS lan
15:51.04MatthewWilkesMaybe, but the same company also left £800 of managed switches in a rack
15:51.05MatthewWilkesthey work
15:55.00kpreidah
15:55.25MatthewWilkesand, my favourite bit, there's a ethernet cable that disappears into the wall
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15:55.34MatthewWilkesit's connected to a D-Link 11g router
15:55.51MatthewWilkesBut we can only pick up the SSID 2 floors up and at the other side of the building
15:55.55kpreid...and there's no entrance to the area where the router is?
15:56.04kpreidoh. well that's not funky enough
15:56.05MatthewWilkesWe mapped the signal and it seems to be coming from the roof of the building next door
15:56.51Chainsawwatches Inspector MatthewWilkes in the mystery of the D-Link SSID
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15:57.42MatthewWilkesThe uptime on the router was 1.7 years, too
15:57.54Ori_Byawns.
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16:04.28ChainsawMatthewWilkes: I've asked quite a few network engineers, not known kit to them.
16:05.40MatthewWilkesChainsaw: Hmm, thanks.  It's a 7 year old converter, AFAICT the manufacturer is not doing well
16:06.10MatthewWilkesAllzeit-Hoch   195,00 EUR (März 2000)  -   Allzeit-Tief 0,70 EUR (November 2005)
16:06.25MatthewWilkesStock price dropping from 195 EUR to < 1 EUR in 5 years :P
16:10.23ChainsawMatthewWilkes: But you have a brand and type number then?
16:14.51MatthewWilkesChainsaw: I have a brand, it has 3 part numbers, none of which turn up any records on google or usenet afaict
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16:22.52dberkholzis there an fcc id on the board?
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16:42.45MatthewWilkesdberkholz: I very much doubt it, it's a german product in the UK
16:44.09dberkholzsome kind of equivalent for germany or UK that has a database you could search?
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17:22.47bobbensmy cats have completely destroyed the rubber band on the cute google notebook thingy T_T
17:22.51bobbenshadn't even started to use it
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17:24.58bobbensand try to stop the case fan with their claws
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17:49.37WinterMuteheh, you should try babies + laptops
17:50.19WinterMutemy daughter likes to pull out the charging cable on my macbook
17:50.39WinterMuteshe keeps trying to eat it - that's a bit worrying
17:50.55[mharrison]Is she magsafe?
17:51.07kblinof course the notebook bobbens was talking about was one of the paper variant
17:52.02bobbensyeah, it's all slack now
17:52.04[mharrison]Paper's for suckers without MacBooks
17:52.05bobbensyou can even see the nibbles
17:52.20bobbensmeh, I can draw graphics and diagrams much faster on paper then on the computer
17:53.32WinterMuteget one of those USB pens
17:53.45bobbenseven then
17:53.51bobbensand you can't carry that stuff around and be portable :)
17:54.01[mharrison]I want a tablet so badly for my photography.  Either USB pen type or screen type tablet, either is fine =D
17:54.07bobbensall the macbooks i've seen are like 2x bigger and 3x heavier then my laptop
17:54.11bobbensbut my laptop is tiny :P
17:55.10[mharrison]I was gonna say...don't count your OLPC XO as a laptop =P
17:55.12WinterMutebobbens, uh, have you *seen* a digital pen?
17:56.49bobbensyou mean the stuff like a wacom? or those fancier new expensive thinggies
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17:57.05bobbensI don't have an OLPC
17:57.11WinterMutehttp://www.amazon.co.uk/APCOM-DIGISCRIBBLE-MOBILE-DIGITAL-PEN/dp/B0014FC3J6
17:57.11bobbensit's a 9 year old 10" vaio
17:58.28bobbensmmm, that work with linux? :)
17:58.52WinterMutedon't see why not
17:59.16bobbensit wouldn't surprise me if it used some funky proprietary protocol
17:59.59bobbenswonder if linux even has userspace tools for that knid of stuff
18:00.07bobbensprobably does in some obscure place
18:00.30kizzoIs it possible, at all, to get a payment advance?
18:00.50WinterMutehttp://www.amazon.com/Dane-Electric-Zpen-Wireless-DA-DP1-01GC5-R/dp/B0013JHJWE
18:00.53bobbensextremely doubtful
18:00.57WinterMutethat claims linux compatibility
18:01.03kizzoI'm trying to go to a smash bros tournament but realized that I get paid just after it happens.
18:01.05Ori_Bkizzo: I don't think so, but you could always email lh
18:01.21kizzoOri_B: Alrighty.  Yeah I figured my next step would be that.
18:02.33[mharrison]heh, "digiscribble"
18:02.40Ori_Bbah, construction sucks :/
18:02.45[mharrison]That's going to be my rapper name, DJ Digiscribble
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18:03.53WinterMute:)
18:04.03[mharrison]You're trying to get a GSoC payment advance to play a video game?  o.O
18:05.46kizzo[mharrison]: Well, to go to a national tournament featuring the game: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=211143
18:06.45[mharrison]I'm gonna go ahead and guess lh is not going to approve that =)
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18:24.52[RTS]BN2VSDoes anyone know if you can get a discount for buying google tshirts when you'r on GSoC? :p
18:26.09alanp_yeah, that is pretty ridiculous
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