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| 02:12.13 | ojwb | struggles to pick the top 3 most difficult things about mentoring his student |
| 02:12.25 | ojwb | the only one which applies at all is timezones |
| 02:13.58 | robg1701 | optional question :) |
| 02:16.13 | Landon | <3 having a new desk |
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| 02:19.16 | ojwb | robg1701: "(required)" it says |
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| 02:19.23 | ojwb | I just picked one and explained in the comment |
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| 02:32.35 | robg1701 | npt here it doesnt |
| 02:32.40 | robg1701 | *not |
| 02:36.55 | ojwb | robg1701: are you a mentor or a student? |
| 02:37.08 | robg1701 | student |
| 02:37.34 | robg1701 | ah just noticed your message :P |
| 02:37.45 | robg1701 | differnet questions then hehe |
| 02:40.53 | robg1701 | oh well, heading for 4am, time for bed...nn all :) |
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| 02:44.40 | Inc | who can go to the mentor summit? |
| 02:44.46 | Inc | only mentors that are signed up right? |
| 02:46.04 | ojwb | Inc: well, the "rules" for this year haven't been announced that I've seen, but I think in past years you didn't have to have necessarily been assigned a student |
| 02:47.05 | Inc | just signed up as a mentor right? |
| 02:47.16 | ojwb | I'm not sure even that was required |
| 02:47.24 | ojwb | but maybe it'll be managed via melange this year |
| 02:47.53 | anothy_x | iirc, the org is invited to bring (up to) N people, and they're free to pick who. |
| 02:48.14 | ravenlock | anothy_x: I concur. thats how I recall it. |
| 02:48.25 | ojwb | last year, each invited org could send one US and one non-US |
| 02:48.34 | ojwb | but there's a waiting list as not all orgs send 2 |
| 02:48.48 | ojwb | the US thing is to try to control the transport costs |
| 02:49.11 | ojwb | I think last year pretty much anyone who wanted to go got to |
| 02:52.15 | Inc | is there an updated payment page yet? |
| 02:52.31 | Inc | if payments are starting to go out the 24th wouldn't it make sense to list the documents? |
| 02:52.45 | ojwb | for orgs? |
| 02:53.05 | ojwb | I'd imagine it will be announced on the mentors list when they're ready |
| 02:53.21 | Inc | right |
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| 03:06.24 | Inc | has anyone here ever transfered money internationally? |
| 03:10.49 | ojwb | yes |
| 03:12.35 | Inc | how difficult is it? |
| 03:12.44 | Inc | for example a transfer from US to Argentina |
| 03:13.12 | ojwb | not particularly hard generally |
| 03:14.00 | ojwb | generally, you should be able to do electronic bank transfers, probably for a fixed fee per transaction |
| 03:14.26 | Inc | ah |
| 03:14.42 | ojwb | for small amounts, paypal might make more sense, though their fees are a bit unreasonable for larger amounts |
| 03:16.11 | ojwb | you'll probably need a bic and an iban for the recipient's account, though they may call them something else (swift codes perhaps) |
| 03:16.20 | Inc | ah |
| 03:16.33 | ojwb | probably best to check with your bank what's needed, but my experience is it's not that hard |
| 03:16.44 | ojwb | paying in a US$ cheque in the UK though, that took months |
| 03:17.27 | ojwb | mostly because my bank kept giving me different incorrect info on the forms to fill in |
| 03:19.05 | Inc | ok |
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| 05:03.00 | Landon | *looks at clock, sees it says 0:00* MY CLOCKS BROKEN |
| 05:03.09 | Landon | or it could be midnight, but how often does that happen.... |
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| 07:23.53 | rlopez_ | hi folks! |
| 07:24.07 | rlopez_ | i'm filling the mentor's final evaluation survey |
| 07:24.26 | rlopez_ | but there is a error in question 6 |
| 07:24.44 | rlopez_ | actually there is no question, just answers |
| 07:24.53 | rlopez_ | do you have the same problem? |
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| 07:34.34 | kblin | rlopez_: yeah |
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| 07:34.58 | kblin | rlopez_: you should be able to guess the question from the answers available, though |
| 07:35.58 | kblin | rlopez_: actually, the question should be 'How "complete" would you say your student's code is?' |
| 07:36.55 | rlopez_ | sure |
| 07:37.41 | rlopez_ | maybe melange people can solve it |
| 07:37.44 | rlopez_ | thanks! |
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| 08:07.29 | kblin | !timeline |
| 08:07.29 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline, or (#2) if you prefer a pretty visual timeline see http://is.gd/141Tu |
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| 08:07.58 | t0ms | !next |
| 08:07.58 | socinfo | "next" is firm pencils down and final evaluations begin August 17 |
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| 08:24.10 | skbohra | now what to do? |
| 08:25.03 | makmanalp | keep a good relationship with your organization and then contribute more when you can? |
| 08:25.12 | makmanalp | !next |
| 08:25.12 | socinfo | "next" is firm pencils down and final evaluations begin August 17 |
| 08:25.26 | makmanalp | ^ that should be the new ! next |
| 08:30.19 | t0ms | http://toms.linuxos.sk/apple.png :-\ |
| 08:32.31 | makmanalp | t0ms: educational prices i assume |
| 08:33.20 | t0ms | still, it's 50 eur cheaper in austria... |
| 08:34.24 | makmanalp | t0ms: no, it says education on the right but not on the left |
| 08:34.57 | t0ms | i know, there are no special prices for students on the left |
| 08:35.12 | t0ms | but if i take normal prices on the right, it's still 50e cheaper |
| 08:35.19 | makmanalp | ah, i see |
| 08:35.27 | t0ms | same laptop, same currency, different state... |
| 08:35.29 | makmanalp | local market adjustments, then, probably |
| 08:35.40 | kblin | !forget next |
| 08:35.40 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 08:36.02 | t0ms | i need to figure out how to get the laptop with edu. price :) |
| 08:36.29 | kblin | !next Final evaluations due by August 24th, final results announced August 25th, 19:00 UTC |
| 08:36.29 | socinfo | Error: "next" is not a valid command. |
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| 08:36.39 | kblin | !learn next as Final evaluations due by August 24th, final results announced August 25th, 19:00 UTC |
| 08:36.39 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 08:36.42 | kblin | meh |
| 08:36.42 | ojwb | learn next as... |
| 08:36.47 | ojwb | ah |
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| 09:38.45 | MarkieMark1 | so when does Google Autumn of Code start? :) |
| 09:39.16 | MarkieMark1 | I hear in the news that internet companies have more cash than they know what to do with |
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| 09:41.52 | Abhinav1 | Hi everyone |
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| 09:43.42 | MarkieMark1 | so rather than it burning a hole in California, a sponsored open-source programming programme perhaps for Google's own open-source projects would be nice - I'd enjoy improving the wave :D |
| 09:44.30 | Landon | doesn't get the wave |
| 09:44.31 | Landon | :\ |
| 09:44.49 | Landon | is also going to sleep |
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| 09:45.11 | skbohra | Abhinav1 : hi |
| 09:45.27 | skbohra | Abhinav1: how're you doing? |
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| 09:45.47 | Abhinav1 | me doing great :) |
| 09:45.55 | MarkieMark1 | Our project were discussing the need for a brainstorming session to describe the details of how the code works for new programmers, is when the wave sprang to mind; goodnight |
| 09:45.58 | MarkieMark1 | :) |
| 09:46.58 | skbohra | MarkieMark1: good night |
| 09:47.25 | skbohra | Abhinav1: how's everything gone? hopefully well |
| 09:48.19 | MarkieMark1 | You going to bed too skbohra? goodnight; Me it's 1147 here in France so unless I'm thinking of a siesta after all that programming, I'll be up for a while |
| 09:49.13 | skbohra | MarkieMark1: no I its 1519 here |
| 09:49.27 | MarkieMark1 | so you must have missed Landon's comment then |
| 09:49.35 | skbohra | :) |
| 09:49.44 | skbohra | seems like |
| 09:49.53 | skbohra | apologies |
| 09:50.13 | skbohra | btw,good night Landon, |
| 09:51.16 | skbohra | Abhinav1: how about a short vacation some time soon, in the hills of Himalyas |
| 09:52.28 | MarkieMark1 | Isn't it the rainy season now? |
| 09:53.23 | skbohra | not that much, till october its fine to go out there |
| 09:54.00 | MarkieMark1 | sounds fun, have they got internet there? :) |
| 09:54.45 | skbohra | there would be, I guess |
| 09:56.30 | MarkieMark1 | I remember trekking up there some years back, the idea of being in some remote mountain village working from there sounds fun |
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| 09:57.47 | MarkieMark1 | the Alps are similar :D |
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| 12:37.59 | socinfo | "next" is Final evaluations due by August 24th, final results announced August 25th, 19:00 UTC |
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| 14:49.36 | meonkeys | Our students' work is already in our trunk--they're using something like this to create patches for submission to Google: |
| 14:49.43 | meonkeys | svn log --stop-on-copy http://example.com/svn/branches/theirBranch |
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| 14:50.04 | meonkeys | then they'll pick out merged revisions (with a script or manually), and run |
| 14:50.32 | meonkeys | for revision in 14858 14868 14869; do svn diff -c $revision http://example.com/svn | tee -a /tmp/gsoc.patch; done && gzip /tmp/gsoc.patch |
| 14:50.45 | meonkeys | (where 14858 14868 14869 would be the full list of revisions) |
| 14:50.52 | meonkeys | does this sound reasonable? |
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| 15:14.16 | ei-grad | hi all! i'm steel have "You don't have any Roles in Google Open Source Programs." on http://socghop.appspot.com/user/roles and can't access final evaluations form... is there anybody with same problem? |
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| 15:17.37 | skbohra | ei-rad: make sure you are using the right google account |
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| 15:17.48 | skbohra | the same you use for your registration |
| 15:18.08 | skbohra | ei-grad^ |
| 15:18.47 | ei-grad | i'm sure in that |
| 15:19.07 | skbohra | and you ever clicked on "resign" link |
| 15:19.16 | ei-grad | clicked... |
| 15:19.19 | skbohra | oops |
| 15:19.28 | skbohra | that's where you made the mistake |
| 15:19.59 | skbohra | its actually about "resigning" from gsoc students :( |
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| 15:20.30 | skbohra | so you may need to contact #melange people, someone had similar problem earlier |
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| 17:10.08 | pygi | hi |
| 17:10.11 | pygi | spectie, ! |
| 17:10.16 | spectie | hey pygi ! |
| 17:10.22 | pygi | how are you doing? |
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| 17:12.35 | spectie | good thanks |
| 17:12.39 | spectie | just got back from cambridge |
| 17:12.41 | spectie | epic hitch |
| 17:13.10 | pygi | :) |
| 17:13.21 | pygi | I think I'm preparing a party :p |
| 17:13.43 | *** topic/#gsoc by Lennie -> Don't forget to fill in your Final Evaluation! - Find the Mentor <-> Student maps for each org here http://tinyurl.com/org-list - This channel is logged (!logs) |
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| 17:14.17 | pygi | Lennie, w00t! |
| 17:14.23 | Lennie | hi |
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| 17:37.00 | imbusy | why am I not on the student map? |
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| 17:41.04 | pygi | imbusy, you need to enable that |
| 17:41.09 | pygi | in your profile |
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| 20:52.35 | ThomasWaldmann | moin |
| 20:53.22 | ThomasWaldmann | that program eval... - i rember answering those questions a few months ago, where did my answers go and why shall I fill it out again? |
| 20:54.29 | smtms | ThomasWaldmann, you did midterm eval then |
| 20:54.36 | smtms | ThomasWaldmann, now you are doing final eval |
| 20:55.11 | smtms | ThomasWaldmann, you got midterm payment a few months ago, now why do you need to get a final payment? |
| 20:55.16 | ThomasWaldmann | i don't mean the mentor's evaluation of the student |
| 20:55.35 | ThomasWaldmann | i mean the program eval with questions like "since when are you in computing" etc. |
| 20:55.47 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: they're still there for me |
| 20:55.48 | schumaml | there are some questions that could have a different answer now |
| 20:56.03 | kblin | schumaml: yeah, like "a couple of months more" |
| 20:56.16 | ThomasWaldmann | :P |
| 20:56.23 | schumaml | or "did you get commit access due to your soc work" |
| 20:56.47 | schumaml | firefox did offer autocompletion, though |
| 20:56.56 | ThomasWaldmann | can I access my old answers so that I can c&p the stuff so that I don't need to type in the stuff that didn't change? |
| 20:57.22 | kblin | schumaml: for mentors? I doubt that |
| 20:57.40 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: actually, scratch that, I just noticed I need to take it again as well |
| 20:57.44 | kblin | meh |
| 20:58.21 | ThomasWaldmann | maybe someone(tm) could make the old thing available as a link in the left navigation bar |
| 20:58.57 | ThomasWaldmann | otherwise i might take that "optional" option |
| 20:59.14 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: probably a #melange question |
| 20:59.52 | schumaml | kblin: question 15 for admins |
| 21:00.36 | kblin | I notice that even though I need to re-take the survey, my bug report about it was not considered |
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| 23:00.49 | bcarlyon | !timeline |
| 23:00.49 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline, or (#2) if you prefer a pretty visual timeline see http://is.gd/141Tu |
| 23:05.22 | bcarlyon | !help |
| 23:05.22 | socinfo | "help" is !next, !faq, !advice and !wiki. !botabuse tells you about private query syntax |
| 23:05.26 | bcarlyon | !next |
| 23:05.26 | socinfo | "next" is Final evaluations due by August 24th, final results announced August 25th, 19:00 UTC |
| 23:05.32 | bcarlyon | Woot. |
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