| 00:00.34 | foka | But yes, I'm still struggling with the decision; |
| 00:01.07 | foka | And came here to ask the question because I am drafting an e-mail trying to explain to the student our decision and giving him some pointers on what to do next. |
| 00:01.30 | codestasher | mhutch : i know at least 3-4 students who have kept their promise and completed the project later on |
| 00:02.00 | mhutch | codestasher: I know a few - I was one myself :) |
| 00:02.22 | foka | codestasher, mhutch: Did they/you receive a passing grade? |
| 00:02.32 | mhutch | (well, I completed, but continued to work on it) |
| 00:02.41 | codestasher | i havnt |
| 00:03.05 | codestasher | have not received any such thing |
| 00:03.07 | mhutch | but that's one of the reason it's tough |
| 00:03.21 | mhutch | because you don't know whether the student will continue |
| 00:03.23 | foka | codestasher, mhutch: Or did they get a failing grade but kept on working on the project till its completion? |
| 00:03.35 | codestasher | No @ foka |
| 00:03.56 | mhutch | foka: no, not know any failed students to continue |
| 00:03.58 | codestasher | my friends got passed in final evaluation, and they continued their work too |
| 00:05.23 | joeyadams | I didn't want to pull this card, but here goes: your student's situation sounds better than my own situation. I created infrastructure and planned on more, but didn't really get any deliverables. I received a passing grade. Therefore, I think your student should get a passing grade as well, or that would be really unfair. |
| 00:05.29 | foka | codestasher, I see. |
| 00:07.17 | codestasher | same with me joeyadams, my project is related to networks , i brought up my network (that took a lot of time as i was new to it) i wrote test-cases too for it , i havnt received any grade till now, but i also think that foka's student deserve's a clearance |
| 00:07.55 | foka | joeyadams, Are you a student this year? :-) Is there a website which documents your work? Thanks! |
| 00:08.36 | joeyadams | http://ccan.ozlabs.org/Wiki/JoeyAdams |
| 00:09.18 | foka | joeyadams, Cool! Many thanks! |
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| 01:50.28 | moacir | !next |
| 01:50.28 | socinfo | "next" is Final evaluations due by August 24th, final results announced August 25th, 19:00 UTC |
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| 02:17.43 | Landon | !stats |
| 02:17.43 | socinfo | "stats" is (#1) http://www.lfowles.org/irc/gsoc/stats.htm, or (#2) EXPERIMENTAL http://lfowles.org/pysg/stats/%23gsoc/ |
| 02:17.44 | robbyoconnor | moacir, timeline not good enough for you? |
| 02:18.20 | robbyoconnor | Landon, your stats get caught in some infinite recursion |
| 02:20.51 | robbyoconnor | w00t bot not tracks r0bby :D |
| 02:22.09 | Landon | eh? |
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| 04:15.54 | Dark_Shikari | weeeeee one of our two GSOC projects has been merged |
| 04:16.55 | Dark_Shikari | 5KLOC, the largest addition of code in... a long time :> |
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| 04:29.56 | absabs | oyeah |
| 04:30.29 | absabs | I passed final evaluation |
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| 04:40.56 | Toba | my dude failt |
| 04:40.57 | Toba | :( |
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| 04:52.44 | alanp | why? :( |
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| 04:54.08 | robbyoconnor | Toba, your fault? |
| 04:54.26 | robbyoconnor | ie did you fail him?! |
| 04:54.43 | Toba | well, I did. |
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| 04:54.55 | Toba | had something to do with his slacking off until right before midway though. |
| 04:55.03 | Toba | not really my fault, I tried to get him to work but he didn't. oh well. |
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| 04:59.26 | araujo | hello all |
| 04:59.37 | araujo | congrat everyone :) |
| 05:00.14 | araujo | Toba, oh ... sad to know that .... probably motivate him to get back to contribute at some point? |
| 05:00.30 | Toba | hope so. |
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| 05:55.41 | Upthorn | oh hi Toba |
| 05:56.01 | Upthorn | what org were you mentoring for? |
| 05:59.00 | ojwb | guesses python |
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| 06:01.39 | Upthorn | yeah that's what I'm guessing from the vhost |
| 06:01.43 | Upthorn | and... channel list |
| 06:02.20 | Upthorn | I'm just surprised to see him here, cause I know him from elsewhere on the internets |
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| 07:06.11 | kblin | morning folks |
| 07:06.33 | aghisla | morning kblin, all |
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| 07:26.21 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline, or (#2) if you prefer a pretty visual timeline see http://is.gd/141Tu |
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| 09:40.04 | kblin | wonders what to spend his time with in ATL |
| 09:40.47 | kblin | air france seems to have screwed up my continuation flight, so now I have 4.5h in atlanta |
| 09:40.55 | Lennie | wow |
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| 09:40.58 | Lennie | that sucks :( |
| 09:41.32 | Lennie | (Still think KLM rules although it's part of Air France now) |
| 09:48.22 | kblin | Lennie: I'll fly via AMS on the return trip, but ATL was like 500 bucks less for the flight to SFO |
| 09:48.37 | Lennie | wow |
| 09:48.40 | Lennie | that's a nice save :) |
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| 09:49.32 | MaNI | where do you u se to search for flights? |
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| 09:55.38 | kblin | depends. I usually use expedia and compare with direct prices from a couple of airlines |
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| 09:56.36 | MatthewWilkes | skyscanner is good too |
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| 09:57.45 | LawnGnome | Expedia if I'm travelling internationally in first-world countries. A lot of time with Wikipedia and airline Web sites if I'm not. :) |
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| 10:00.48 | MaNI | hmm |
| 10:01.22 | MaNI | how does wikipedia help with that? |
| 10:02.20 | LawnGnome | MaNI: Almost all international airports have a list of carriers and their destinations, which you can then use as a jumping off point for your own research. It can be a bit time-consuming, though -- last time I went off the beaten path I just got lazy and got a travel agent friend to do the work for me in exchange for some beer. |
| 10:04.38 | MaNI | hehe |
| 10:04.39 | MaNI | I see |
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| 10:21.13 | Ivanovic | LawnGnome: it just gets *really* time consuming if you are eg checking huge airports like heathrow... |
| 10:21.14 | Ivanovic | ;) |
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| 10:22.22 | Ivanovic | and you also tend to forget cooperations more easily (that is many of the bigger airlines work together, eg so called "star alliance" with united, lufthansa and many other companies) |
| 10:25.32 | LawnGnome | Ivanovic: Yeah, like I said, for the major routes I use Expedia just like everyone else. I just tend to travel occasionally to weird places that require airlines that don't advertise on Expedia. :) |
| 10:25.41 | Ivanovic | :) |
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| 10:41.29 | MaNI | the direct prices(from airline site) always seem to be more for some reason |
| 10:44.03 | Ivanovic | MaNI: not always |
| 10:44.20 | Ivanovic | last year for the mentor summit i booked directly via lufthansa since that was the cheapest available |
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| 10:44.33 | Ivanovic | (okay, from heathrow to SFO it was united...) |
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| 11:01.29 | kblin | Ivanovic: it's pretty expensive to get to SFO this year |
| 11:01.48 | Ivanovic | yeah, have already seen it, just had a small check run |
| 11:02.07 | Ivanovic | the cheapest at all i found was something like 600⬠|
| 11:02.16 | Ivanovic | and flights via chicago, taking >20h |
| 11:02.37 | kblin | yeah |
| 11:02.53 | Ivanovic | not to mention the flights listed for something like 32h |
| 11:02.59 | kblin | nods |
| 11:04.02 | Ivanovic | though so far it is not sure whom of us will fly over |
| 11:04.16 | Ivanovic | since i was there last year it is likely that i won't be coming over this year |
| 11:04.24 | Ivanovic | (as in "the others should get their turn, too) |
| 11:04.43 | kblin | nods |
| 11:05.15 | kblin | I hope I have the time to go, I think I can work out a slot :) |
| 11:05.25 | kblin | the benefit of admining three orgs |
| 11:05.29 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 11:06.41 | Ivanovic | i'd like to come over and would have the time, but there are several others from europe that probably want to go over, too |
| 11:07.18 | Ivanovic | (and in fact they have done more for SoC than me, so it would be just if they go) |
| 11:08.19 | Ivanovic | the positive aspect: at least i don't have to worry if my pandora arrives in time for the mentor summit |
| 11:08.21 | Ivanovic | ;) |
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| 11:28.06 | kblin | Ivanovic: they're still not delivered? |
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| 11:28.44 | kblin | Ivanovic: does the pandora have dedicated ethernet? :) |
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| 11:43.43 | Ivanovic | kblin: not ethernet |
| 11:43.44 | Ivanovic | just wlan |
| 11:44.23 | Ivanovic | currently it looks like the very first (105) devices based on the test board will be shipping late september/early october |
| 11:45.05 | Ivanovic | the ones "after those" (so the rest of the 4000 preordered devices) will probably need at least a month (probably more likely 1.5 months) more |
| 11:46.06 | thebolt | hi |
| 11:47.22 | kblin | Ivanovic: hopefully that'll save you from the beagleboard issues with USB ethernet |
| 11:47.46 | Ivanovic | kblin: there should be no bigger issues with wlan on the pandora |
| 11:48.20 | Ivanovic | that is it is a plain default, nothing too special solution |
| 11:48.55 | Ivanovic | implemented somehow via sdio (or however it is called) |
| 11:48.59 | WinterMute | heh |
| 11:49.09 | WinterMute | I'll beleive that when I see it |
| 11:49.27 | WinterMute | wasn't Pandora supposed to be shipping last December? |
| 11:49.29 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 11:49.34 | Ivanovic | WinterMute: yes, it was |
| 11:50.31 | kblin | hm, good luck then :) |
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| 11:51.03 | Ivanovic | and now finally the first 105 "final" boards are going through a burn in test in the fab |
| 11:51.13 | Ivanovic | and the case mould is in production |
| 11:53.00 | Ivanovic | kblin: if the beagle board had gbit ethernet on board i would have gotten me one by now as replacement for my nslu2 as homeserver |
| 11:53.06 | Ivanovic | until that is the case, i will stay with the nslu2 |
| 11:53.48 | kblin | Ivanovic: I'm getting a sheevaplug next month (unless the company screws up the delivery to the conference hotel) |
| 11:53.52 | kblin | I'll try that |
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| 11:54.07 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 11:54.14 | kblin | the sheevaplug looks like a decent replacement for a slug |
| 11:54.16 | thebolt | needs to get himself an FPGA board soon.. |
| 11:55.15 | kblin | 512 megs ram, 1 ghz armv5+vfp, gigE, usb2 |
| 11:55.32 | Ivanovic | yeah, the specs sound really neat |
| 11:56.28 | kblin | but my beagle is running fine as a server, it just doesn't seem to be able to do ethernet and hdd on the musb port |
| 11:56.56 | kblin | and the revCs have some annoying issues with noise on the 1.8V rail messing up the EHCI controller, it seems |
| 11:57.04 | Ivanovic | oh |
| 11:57.06 | Ivanovic | not nice |
| 11:57.29 | kblin | but the OTG port works |
| 11:58.19 | kblin | also, now that I replaced my asix-based ethernet controller with a usb2 netgear controller, most of my issues are fixed |
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| 11:58.50 | Ivanovic | that is why i would prefer to have ethernet right on board |
| 11:58.59 | kblin | true |
| 11:59.04 | Ivanovic | then i would be comfortable to trust in it |
| 11:59.13 | kblin | but that uses more power :) |
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| 11:59.46 | Ivanovic | :) |
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| 12:04.14 | kblin | so assuming I get the sheevaplug, I'll just run servers on the beagles and get the data there using a network file system |
| 12:04.40 | kblin | and store stuff on the sheevaplug's hdd |
| 12:05.27 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 12:06.20 | MatthewWilkes | Ivanovic: I've found flights from UK to SFO for ⬠466, I'm sure you can get cheaper than 600! |
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| 12:07.00 | Ivanovic | MatthewWilkes: the cheapest connection leaving DUS on friday and flying back from SFO on sunday is af 540⬠|
| 12:07.18 | Ivanovic | but the flights all go via chicago and the flight back takes at least 24h |
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| 12:07.41 | Ivanovic | clearly the amount of time that sounds like "ugh, this has to be a joke" to me |
| 12:08.20 | Ivanovic | i have mentioned that this is via the comfort airline also known as united? |
| 12:08.21 | Ivanovic | ;) |
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| 12:09.29 | thebolt | Ivanovic: sounds excellent ;) |
| 12:09.58 | thebolt | remembers last trip to SF.. 12½ hours flying each way, 55 hours on american soil |
| 12:10.13 | Ivanovic | last year when i could book the trip it was at 700⬠for the round trip |
| 12:10.24 | Ivanovic | that is i booked late september |
| 12:10.54 | kblin | 12.5 hours is luxury flying |
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| 12:11.44 | kblin | my next flight to SFO is 16 hours... ok, 11.5 hours in plane, 4.5 hours in ATL |
| 12:12.09 | Ivanovic | i just checked what the cheapest via lufthansa would be with a little varying departure |
| 12:12.29 | Ivanovic | so leaving on tuesday and basically staying a week ends at ~600â¬, too |
| 12:12.30 | thebolt | kblin: yea.. a bit better than my 29 hour flight from Taiwan to Sweden |
| 12:12.36 | Ivanovic | though it would be lufthansa only |
| 12:13.26 | thebolt | kblin: 6(+45 minutes stop on the way) hours to Kuala Lumpur, wait for ~9 hours, then to stockholm.. |
| 12:13.31 | Ivanovic | (so in fact several classes better than united) |
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| 12:15.17 | rohananil | Hello , i cant seem to find what the expiration date for the card is ? |
| 12:15.26 | rohananil | it says good through... |
| 12:15.51 | t0ms | e? rohananil 04/12 ? |
| 12:16.03 | rohananil | yeah |
| 12:16.06 | rohananil | whats the year... |
| 12:16.06 | t0ms | (sorry for e? -> should have been in another message) |
| 12:16.10 | kblin | 12 |
| 12:16.18 | t0ms | April / 2012 |
| 12:16.19 | kblin | as in 2012 |
| 12:16.23 | rohananil | Ohh |
| 12:16.26 | rohananil | thanks =) |
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| 12:58.29 | QW | sorry daughter |
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| 13:37.51 | ravenlock | I have somehow missed how Orgs are getting paid this year. |
| 13:38.03 | ravenlock | The forms, etc. |
| 13:38.34 | ravenlock | If an individual accepted the $ on the orgs behalf last year, and wishes to do so again this year.... what is required. |
| 13:38.36 | ravenlock | ? |
| 13:38.44 | Lennie | You have to walk the invisible bridge and drink from the right cup :) |
| 13:38.53 | ravenlock | doh! |
| 13:39.06 | Lennie | the staff responsible for payments is probably as sleep now |
| 13:39.11 | Lennie | best is to post on the mentor's mailing list :) |
| 13:39.21 | Lennie | *asleep |
| 13:39.42 | ravenlock | kk. will do. thanks. |
| 13:41.37 | ajuonline | and pray |
| 13:41.42 | ajuonline | that they dont call you a stinker |
| 13:41.45 | ajuonline | for being late |
| 13:41.55 | Ivanovic | ravenlock: this was not announced yet |
| 13:42.03 | Lennie | hahah |
| 13:42.09 | Ivanovic | ravenlock: probably it will be announced together with "how to get reimbruised for the flight tickets" |
| 13:42.24 | Ivanovic | (was this way last year) |
| 13:42.36 | Lennie | prepares some t-shirts to be fed to the wolverines |
| 13:42.50 | ravenlock | Ivanovic: k. last year was a looong time ago. I have forgot how things went. |
| 13:42.55 | ajuonline | Lennie: tshirts i wantezzz! |
| 13:42.55 | ravenlock | thanks for the info |
| 13:43.20 | Lennie | You'll get one if you signed up this year :P |
| 13:43.24 | Lennie | as a mentor that is |
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| 13:43.35 | Lennie | or if you are a student who succeeded :D |
| 13:43.39 | ajuonline | Lennie: students get one as well! pff! |
| 13:44.53 | Lennie | ah well |
| 13:44.55 | Lennie | maybe you don't :) |
| 13:45.03 | Lennie | I might steal the boxes, muhahaha :P |
| 13:45.13 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 13:45.22 | Lennie | Or actually the coffee robot might ^_^ |
| 13:45.26 | Ivanovic | ajuonline: Lennie will feed yours to the wolverines! |
| 13:45.52 | aghisla | may I have a wolverine instead of tshirt? |
| 13:45.55 | ajuonline | Lennie: i can request Ellen to send me a bunch then :P |
| 13:46.47 | ajuonline | i like the goodies she sent me recently |
| 13:46.57 | ajuonline | Lennie: you must already have some since u went to the mvc! |
| 13:47.10 | Lennie | what did you get :)? |
| 13:47.39 | ajuonline | http://www.twitpic.com/abbj2 |
| 13:47.48 | Lennie | I didn't get a lot of goodies last time :P, I'm still hoping to score an GAE t-shirt :( |
| 13:48.14 | Lennie | hehe |
| 13:48.18 | ajuonline | i only have 3 ospo t-shirts and 1 gsoc 08 |
| 13:48.26 | Lennie | hehe |
| 13:48.29 | Lennie | you have more then me :) |
| 13:48.33 | ajuonline | make that 2 |
| 13:48.54 | ajuonline | but i am not supposed to tell that, it was a lucky mistake i got two :P |
| 13:49.18 | thebolt | got two LoTR boxes from Amazon when he ordered one.. but they told him to keep both |
| 13:49.39 | ajuonline | thebolt: you are my best friend. send me one. |
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| 13:49.40 | ajuonline | :D |
| 13:49.52 | thebolt | ajuonline: haha, have one at my place and one at my parents place |
| 13:49.56 | thebolt | ;) |
| 13:50.00 | Lennie | thebolt nice :) |
| 13:50.07 | Lennie | I also ordered the box |
| 13:50.08 | ajuonline | and you are in .tw right now? |
| 13:50.12 | Lennie | since it was way cheaper then in the store :D |
| 13:50.22 | thebolt | ajuonline: nah, back in .se |
| 13:50.24 | Lennie | but I only got one :( |
| 13:50.30 | thebolt | (since 1½ month) |
| 13:50.40 | ajuonline | ah ok |
| 13:50.42 | ajuonline | done with school? |
| 13:51.09 | thebolt | Lennie: well, i didn't get anything for three weeks after ordering.. contacted them, they sent another one and told me "oh well, if the first one shows up, keep it or give it to charity or what you feel like.. shipping is so much its not worth sending back".. then i got both the second and the initial shipping |
| 13:51.19 | thebolt | ajuonline: nah, one semester more of courses and then a thesis |
| 13:51.26 | Lennie | :D |
| 13:51.29 | thebolt | (one semester, nominally.. ) |
| 13:51.37 | Lennie | thebolt where are you studying? |
| 13:51.38 | Lennie | and what |
| 13:52.18 | thebolt | Lennie: I'm studying at Linkoping University (www.lith.liu.se), studying MSc in applied physics and electrical engineering |
| 13:52.33 | Lennie | aha |
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| 13:52.49 | Lennie | dual study then? |
| 13:52.52 | thebolt | fifth and final year.. |
| 13:52.55 | Lennie | or whatever they might call it |
| 13:52.59 | thebolt | well, it is a combined program |
| 13:53.04 | Lennie | ok |
| 13:53.19 | thebolt | a bit more EE than the normal applied physics, a bit more physics than EE ;) |
| 13:53.23 | thebolt | then it depends on your profile and courses |
| 13:53.33 | ajuonline | updates his Linkedin wit gsco09 :P |
| 13:53.36 | ajuonline | gsoc* |
| 13:53.47 | thebolt | in my case i am more EE, and will get an european master exam in EE |
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| 13:54.00 | Lennie | ok |
| 13:54.19 | Lennie | sounds nice :) |
| 13:54.23 | thebolt | i know classmates (same courses first 3½ years, then you differentiate) that will get MSc in applied physics, a few in computer engineering and some in applied maths |
| 13:54.27 | Lennie | I'm starting my master next week :D |
| 13:54.34 | thebolt | :) what/where? |
| 13:54.47 | Lennie | www.tudelft.nl University of Technology Delft |
| 13:54.52 | thebolt | ah |
| 13:55.07 | Lennie | CS: Multimedia and Knowledge Engineering |
| 13:56.50 | Lennie | time to play with image processing, datamining and neural networks :) |
| 13:57.04 | thebolt | :) |
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| 13:57.26 | thebolt | i might try to find a phd position in embedded systems or configurable hardware or so (thoes are my interst areas).. not sure yet |
| 13:59.32 | Lennie | ok cool |
| 13:59.45 | Lennie | I have no idea if I'm going to do a phd |
| 14:00.24 | Lennie | It is definitively a possibility :) |
| 14:00.27 | thebolt | well, i'm far from sure :) |
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| 14:05.14 | ajuonline | Lennie: why do you need a "Resign as a student" seriously? :P |
| 14:05.35 | Lennie | Because there are people who wish to resign ^^ |
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| 14:06.02 | ajuonline | Lennie: as in drop out? or switch to being a mentor? |
| 14:06.06 | Lennie | both |
| 14:06.14 | Mek | are there more people wishing to resign than there are that resign accidentally? :) |
| 14:06.20 | Lennie | nope :P |
| 14:06.37 | Lennie | it just shows a lot of users can't read english :) |
| 14:06.39 | thebolt | i resigned.. but back then there was no button ;) (it was pre-selection) |
| 14:06.52 | Lennie | ah well |
| 14:06.58 | alanp_ | why would you resign? to not get paid? i don't get it |
| 14:07.02 | Lennie | nope |
| 14:07.05 | Lennie | to quit |
| 14:07.11 | thebolt | alanp_: at this point there is no reason to at all |
| 14:07.15 | Lennie | there are those who complete GSoC and don't want to get paid :) |
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| 14:07.35 | Lennie | anyhow |
| 14:07.41 | Lennie | Melange is one big experimental bucket anyway :D |
| 14:08.26 | Lennie | slowly improving if I may add :) |
| 14:08.39 | thebolt | :) |
| 14:09.09 | Ivanovic | hey, it *does* improve |
| 14:09.46 | Lennie | most of the functional stuff seems to do its job |
| 14:09.59 | Lennie | now it's time to try and get the GHOP code in there :) |
| 14:10.02 | Ivanovic | yeah, most stuff works really nicely |
| 14:10.04 | ajuonline | Lennie: dont wanna get paid? why 0-o |
| 14:10.18 | Lennie | and then iterate over the usability issues :D |
| 14:10.41 | Lennie | ajuonline: Not sure. Because they don't care about the money, more about the experience? |
| 14:10.46 | Lennie | legal reasons? |
| 14:10.54 | ajuonline | ah yeah |
| 14:10.55 | Lennie | I just know that it happens |
| 14:11.15 | Lennie | which is actually pretty good |
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| 14:11.32 | Lennie | that people don't see this as a moneymaker but more as an experience provider |
| 14:11.35 | ajuonline | foka: did you pass the student or not? :P |
| 14:11.54 | ajuonline | Lennie: they might well be having sources of income |
| 14:12.04 | ajuonline | or not, |
| 14:12.12 | ajuonline | i know damn i need to pay fees :P |
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| 14:12.21 | Lennie | hehe |
| 14:14.34 | thebolt | no fees to pay here.. but still need to have an apartment and buy food :) |
| 14:15.02 | ajuonline | thebolt: ah yes, that too |
| 14:15.29 | Lennie | <- Is happy that the government supports students here so well that what they give covers rent + food ^_^ |
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| 14:15.46 | ajuonline | Lennie: .nl ? |
| 14:15.50 | Lennie | so basically just tuition to work for :) |
| 14:15.51 | Lennie | yes |
| 14:15.56 | ajuonline | Lennie: i am moving! |
| 14:16.00 | Lennie | hehe |
| 14:16.04 | thebolt | Lennie: yea, no tuition here |
| 14:16.07 | Lennie | foreign students pay way higher tuition :( |
| 14:16.10 | thebolt | and gov. gives grant + loan |
| 14:16.17 | Lennie | grant + loan here as well |
| 14:16.27 | Lennie | actually the grant is a loan if you don't finish your study |
| 14:16.35 | thebolt | no tuition fees for anyone (Yet) |
| 14:16.35 | ajuonline | oh yes we have similar stuff here as well |
| 14:16.36 | Lennie | if you do they grant you the money :) |
| 14:16.38 | thebolt | independent of your origin |
| 14:16.45 | ajuonline | but getting into those univ's is tough |
| 14:16.49 | thebolt | (ie free for all foreigners as well) |
| 14:16.53 | ajuonline | i was not that smart when the time was right :P |
| 14:16.55 | Lennie | go sweden :)? |
| 14:17.11 | thebolt | Lennie: well, they will actually add fees for people from outside EU next fall or so :/ |
| 14:17.12 | ajuonline | thebolt: now you are my best friend for sure! :P |
| 14:17.31 | thebolt | ajuonline: well, there is a reason we have ~10-15% international students at my uni ;) |
| 14:17.34 | ajuonline | but i hear it always snows in .se? |
| 14:17.40 | thebolt | anyhow, need to go fetch some tickets from a friend |
| 14:17.44 | Lennie | we have a lot of foregners as well |
| 14:17.50 | thebolt | haha, no, atm its 20ish and sunny :) |
| 14:17.50 | Lennie | especially in civil engineering |
| 14:17.55 | Lennie | lots of asian |
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| 14:18.00 | thebolt | Lennie: same here |
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| 14:18.05 | ajuonline | thebolt: tell me univ's, i might look to apply :D |
| 14:18.27 | thebolt | ajuonline: well, its true for all swedish units. .biggest (best, in order;) being LiTH, KTH and Chalmers |
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| 14:51.50 | phymonus | hello everybody, does anybody know when will they start making payments for the second half of the program ? |
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| 14:55.32 | Lennie | !timeline |
| 14:55.33 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline, or (#2) if you prefer a pretty visual timeline see http://is.gd/141Tu |
| 14:56.09 | Lennie | that would be asap according to the timeline |
| 14:56.14 | aghisla | will be |
| 14:56.17 | aghisla | right... |
| 14:56.20 | aghisla | now! |
| 14:56.33 | phymonus | that's what I thought :) |
| 14:56.37 | Lennie | so yeah the administrative work is being done ^^ |
| 14:56.44 | phymonus | did anybody reciece the money yet ?:D |
| 14:56.49 | Lennie | might take a while of course to get your money |
| 14:57.03 | Lennie | and as far as I know you'll all receive it at the same time |
| 14:57.10 | Lennie | since that's easier to do with the card vendor they have :) |
| 14:57.16 | Lennie | so you'll have to wait for the slacking mentors :) |
| 14:57.28 | Lennie | (the ones who will get their t-shirts fed to the wolverines) |
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| 15:00.34 | MaNI | are there a lot of those? |
| 15:00.48 | MaNI | I can provide the wolverines if you want |
| 15:01.05 | Lennie | there were 30 :) |
| 15:01.16 | Lennie | 21 were scared :) |
| 15:01.16 | phymonus | what wolverines?? |
| 15:01.18 | Lennie | so 9 left |
| 15:01.24 | Lennie | nope 9 mentors to be fed :p |
| 15:01.29 | Lennie | to the wolverines |
| 15:01.30 | Lennie | :) |
| 15:01.35 | ThomasWaldmann | :) |
| 15:01.47 | Ivanovic | uhm, why to the wolverines? |
| 15:01.47 | aghisla | MaNI: yeeeees I'd have a wolverine |
| 15:01.54 | Ivanovic | steaks for the mentor summit!!! |
| 15:01.55 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 15:02.01 | Lennie | hehe |
| 15:02.07 | Lennie | US means Onion Rings for me :D |
| 15:02.24 | Lennie | Too bad I won't attend the summit :( |
| 15:02.38 | thebolt | Lennie: how come? |
| 15:02.42 | Lennie | saves me from a bucket of ice water though :D |
| 15:02.53 | rohananil | is the last year mentor summit videos on youtube ? =) |
| 15:03.17 | Lennie | bachelor graduation ceremony on friday before the likely summit date |
| 15:03.39 | thebolt | Lennie: ah :) |
| 15:03.49 | rohananil | what does mentors talk about during the summit ? ( plans for world domination? :P ) , kidding... |
| 15:03.50 | thebolt | we don't have such things here :P |
| 15:03.56 | thebolt | yes, exactly that :) |
| 15:04.06 | Lennie | rohananil: we discuss ways to use the google deathray network to our advantage |
| 15:04.12 | Lennie | if that's what you are talking about :) |
| 15:04.41 | Lennie | my guess is they have fun |
| 15:04.46 | Lennie | get a tour of the MTV facility :) |
| 15:05.00 | Lennie | but you'd better ask someone with experience on that topic to be sure :D |
| 15:06.03 | thebolt | rohananil: in general, discuss ways to improve the program, share experience between different types and sizes of projects etc.. and also some general open source talk :) |
| 15:06.40 | thebolt | (at least that is what we did the last three times ;) |
| 15:06.46 | Lennie | ^^ |
| 15:07.00 | Lennie | I'm missing the latenight hottub talks :P |
| 15:07.07 | Lennie | or are those a myth :D |
| 15:07.12 | thebolt | not hottub |
| 15:07.16 | thebolt | but swimming pool :) |
| 15:07.52 | Lennie | funny to completely clog up a hotel's wireless :D |
| 15:08.18 | thebolt | :) |
| 15:08.26 | Lennie | did you stay at the WP? |
| 15:08.52 | thebolt | first two times, yes |
| 15:09.15 | thebolt | thrid time (last year) i was at Domino.. my co-mentor was a bit late deciding so no more space at WP |
| 15:09.24 | Lennie | ok |
| 15:09.27 | thebolt | ah, domain maybe it was called |
| 15:09.30 | Lennie | yes |
| 15:09.31 | Lennie | domain :) |
| 15:09.31 | thebolt | something like that :P |
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| 15:09.43 | Lennie | Domain is nice |
| 15:09.59 | thebolt | yep, nothing wrong with it |
| 15:09.59 | Lennie | but the pool at WP is supposed to be better |
| 15:10.03 | Lennie | ^^ |
| 15:10.06 | thebolt | didn't see the pool at Domain |
| 15:10.11 | Lennie | that might be it :D |
| 15:10.26 | Lennie | I've been put in the WP as well |
| 15:10.27 | Lennie | good place :) |
| 15:10.40 | Ivanovic | the beds were really comftable |
| 15:10.53 | thebolt | Ivanovic: actually i got a bad back-ache first night at Domain |
| 15:10.55 | Ivanovic | (yes, it was a positive suprise!) |
| 15:11.00 | thebolt | the bed was _way_ too soft |
| 15:11.06 | Lennie | they were huge compared to EU standards ;p |
| 15:11.09 | thebolt | it was settable though (inflatable) |
| 15:11.16 | Lennie | yeah they are a bit softy sometimes |
| 15:11.19 | thebolt | so second night i inflated it as hard as it could |
| 15:11.21 | thebolt | was a bit better |
| 15:11.30 | Lennie | just go US style on the staff |
| 15:11.34 | Lennie | say that it is too soft |
| 15:11.36 | Lennie | (complain) |
| 15:11.38 | Lennie | and they'll fix it :P |
| 15:11.51 | Ivanovic | Lennie: by now this is international style |
| 15:12.00 | thebolt | but way softer than my at that time normal bed (in Taiwan.. bamboo over an inch of foam rubber over wood ;) |
| 15:12.13 | Ivanovic | geek style would be: what is the beds IP, i want to connect to it to be able to change preferences! |
| 15:12.15 | Lennie | thebolt: fancy :D |
| 15:12.21 | Lennie | Ivanovic: haha |
| 15:12.38 | thebolt | Lennie: well, bamboo mat is really nice to sleep on when it is 40 C and humid as hell.. |
| 15:12.39 | Lennie | Ivanovic: Is the bed opensource? I want it to give me good dreams :P |
| 15:12.52 | Ivanovic | Lennie: completely closed source |
| 15:12.59 | Ivanovic | especially the dream part |
| 15:13.07 | Lennie | damn |
| 15:13.12 | Ivanovic | IIRC that comes directly from MS (or was it apple?) |
| 15:13.15 | dmitrig01|afk | I'm an admin for my org - what should I tell mentors that haven't submitted evaluations to do? |
| 15:13.21 | Lennie | thebolt: I can only begin to imagine how that must be |
| 15:13.30 | Lennie | I hate the 25 degrees and high humidity here |
| 15:13.34 | Lennie | 40 would be killing me :P |
| 15:13.35 | Ivanovic | dmitrig01|afk: that you are going to visit them and kick their asses |
| 15:13.48 | dmitrig01|afk | Ivanovic: ok, after I kick their asses, what hsolud I do |
| 15:14.01 | Lennie | dmitrig01|afk: either complete them for your mentors or make them do it before the 26th 5.00 AM UTC |
| 15:14.02 | Ivanovic | dmitrig01|afk: if there is no other way: fill it out yourself |
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| 15:14.17 | dmitrig01|afk | Ivanovic: ok |
| 15:14.18 | Ivanovic | that is: apply as mentor to the project and change you to the 2nd mentor of those students |
| 15:14.25 | Lennie | Ivanovic: no need |
| 15:14.29 | Ivanovic | then you should be able to take the survey for them |
| 15:14.30 | Lennie | Org admins can take it |
| 15:14.41 | Ivanovic | Lennie: is it now possible directly from the manage student projects page? |
| 15:14.41 | Lennie | no need for nasty work arounds :) |
| 15:14.43 | Lennie | yes |
| 15:14.52 | Ivanovic | yesterday i heard that it was not possible if nothing was submitted so far |
| 15:14.54 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 15:14.56 | Lennie | mwah |
| 15:14.59 | Lennie | was something else |
| 15:15.03 | Ivanovic | ah, okay |
| 15:15.12 | Lennie | if you were not a mentor for gsoc2009 it would fail |
| 15:15.20 | Lennie | but that has been fixed now as well |
| 15:15.20 | thebolt | hi webchick |
| 15:15.22 | Lennie | and pushed live |
| 15:15.28 | Lennie | so it will now work 100% for org admins |
| 15:15.30 | Ivanovic | my mentors were good sheep, they filled out the survey (after some/a lot nagging) |
| 15:15.45 | webchick | heya, thebolt ! :) |
| 15:15.45 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 15:15.46 | thebolt | Lennie: 40 C and 85-90% relative humidity is.. bad :) |
| 15:16.00 | Lennie | thebolt: as said, it would kill me |
| 15:16.03 | thebolt | Lennie: i loved the AC in my dorm :) |
| 15:16.20 | Lennie | I rather have the cold then the heat :D |
| 15:16.52 | thebolt | yep |
| 15:17.09 | thebolt | (but 10 C outdoors, 12C indoors and still 90% RH is not that nice either.. == Taiwanese winter :P) |
| 15:17.10 | Ivanovic | votes for the heat instead of the cold |
| 15:17.20 | Ivanovic | the heat at least provides you with a reason to go swimming |
| 15:17.21 | thebolt | i have easier to cope with cold than heat |
| 15:17.22 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 15:17.30 | Lennie | who here had problems viewing eval results for textareas btw |
| 15:17.30 | Lennie | > |
| 15:17.34 | Lennie | *? |
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| 15:17.37 | Ivanovic | ME |
| 15:17.50 | Lennie | They didn't make this release |
| 15:17.51 | Lennie | however |
| 15:18.11 | Lennie | the changes are in the repo and you'll be able to fully see the answers and copy paste them properly next week :) |
| 15:18.20 | Ivanovic | ME |
| 15:18.25 | Ivanovic | grml |
| 15:18.29 | Ivanovic | hui, great |
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| 15:27.36 | Lennie | ttyal |
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| 16:28.27 | Michelangelo | lh: ping |
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| 16:36.21 | lh | Michelangelo: pong, nothing yet, patience please |
| 16:36.30 | Michelangelo | lh: ack, thanks. |
| 16:39.39 | kowey | hello lh: I'd like to ask some questions about applying to be a mentoring org - is this a bad time perhaps? |
| 16:40.21 | kowey | (specifically I was wondering if I could learn reasons why our org didn't make the cut this year, so that we could improve our application for 2010) |
| 16:40.26 | lh | kowey: it's not a great time. i can point you at some documentation for now |
| 16:40.38 | lh | yeah, bad time. email me please? lhawthorn@google.com |
| 16:40.47 | kowey | OK, thanks! |
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| 16:43.43 | lh | kowey: np |
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| 17:06.01 | spectie | wooo! |
| 17:06.05 | spectie | more reasons to give up my vocation |
| 17:06.08 | spectie | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/08/new-languages-in-google-translate.html |
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| 17:07.31 | caden | I'm going to use a 10 minute "anything you want" presentation today to talk about applying to GSoC--- how many students did we accept this year again? |
| 17:07.49 | caden | audience is grad students |
| 17:09.27 | ajuonline | 1000 |
| 17:09.53 | caden | thanks |
| 17:10.20 | ajuonline | http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgoogle-summer-of-code.googlecode.com%2Ffiles%2FGSoC2009-Presentation-BlueLogo.ppt&ei=6RqUSunOIMqIkAXnl9i7Cg&usg=AFQjCNHKzDVbnPRr6M4Pqft9NStGYyEtFQ&sig2=2t0TsWz8y4sWVWvOQ9qsSg |
| 17:10.24 | ajuonline | oops |
| 17:10.44 | ajuonline | thats the link to the program presentation for other past stats |
| 17:11.22 | caden | cool thanks |
| 17:11.31 | caden | and the official application process happened in april, right? |
| 17:11.44 | ajuonline | exact dates in the timeline |
| 17:11.57 | sourcemorph | spectie: hola :) |
| 17:12.05 | spectie | hola sourcemorph |
| 17:12.09 | ajuonline | spectie: Hi Fran! |
| 17:12.15 | ajuonline | caden: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 17:12.15 | spectie | hey ajuonline |
| 17:12.18 | spectie | did you see the news ? |
| 17:12.20 | spectie | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/08/new-languages-in-google-translate.html |
| 17:12.33 | ajuonline | caden: it was in march end in fact for students |
| 17:12.57 | ajuonline | spectie: the page doesnt exists |
| 17:12.59 | ajuonline | :-/ |
| 17:13.07 | caden | ah thanks ajuonline |
| 17:13.09 | spectie | it does :s |
| 17:13.12 | ajuonline | and I missed the "l" in html |
| 17:13.17 | ajuonline | spectie: yes it does :D |
| 17:13.51 | sourcemorph | spectie: how did the projects you mentored go? |
| 17:14.00 | borja | blinks |
| 17:14.02 | caden | Welsh is spoken in Argentina? |
| 17:14.08 | caden | Hi borja! |
| 17:14.09 | borja | caden: hey there |
| 17:14.10 | spectie | sourcemorph, great |
| 17:14.16 | spectie | caden, by a small population |
| 17:14.17 | borja | caden: where are you going to be presenting? |
| 17:14.19 | spectie | sourcemorph, both passed |
| 17:14.24 | borja | caden: (also, how did SoC go for you ;-) |
| 17:14.29 | sourcemorph | spectie: nice, congratulations! |
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| 17:14.43 | sourcemorph | spectie: looking forward to using lttoolbox :) |
| 17:14.50 | caden | UW-Madison-- it is actually a TA screening exam to make sure that I can speak in front of people well enough to teach but I figure since I have a captive audience of 27 grad students |
| 17:14.51 | Chainsaw | caden: Yeah, that was new to me too :) |
| 17:14.52 | caden | muhahahah |
| 17:14.53 | spectie | sourcemorph, :) |
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| 17:15.47 | sourcemorph | spectie: btw, if you saw google waves' developer preview, they demonstrated the in-line chat translator to a huge applause from the audience :) |
| 17:16.01 | spectie | i didn't see it |
| 17:16.03 | borja | caden: cool |
| 17:16.19 | borja | caden: I wish our school did TA screening exams |
| 17:16.31 | caden | GSoC went great! My mentor was very available and knowledgable |
| 17:16.34 | caden | heheh |
| 17:16.42 | borja | caden: woo woo! |
| 17:16.59 | caden | They gave us a 90 minute pop Java exam yesterday! I haven't programmed in Java for like, 9 monhts |
| 17:17.01 | borja | caden: All our students in our org passed, which I'm very happy about |
| 17:17.06 | caden | I kept trying to write down Java code |
| 17:17.07 | caden | cool |
| 17:17.43 | caden | Yeah it is a relief, the end of the program was hard for me because my lease ended and i was staying with relatives for the last 2 weeks |
| 17:17.51 | caden | sometimes... without their own internet access!!! |
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| 17:36.01 | Landon | ohi caden |
| 17:36.11 | Landon | eww java |
| 17:36.29 | Landon | has a class that will be dealing with C# :( not excited |
| 17:36.39 | Landon | although the first program I don't think he cares what language it's in as long as it runs |
| 17:36.41 | Landon | pythons |
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| 17:50.14 | caden | ohhi landon |
| 17:50.18 | Landon | ohhi |
| 17:50.25 | caden | how many years has GSoC been going on again? |
| 17:50.32 | Landon | 5? |
| 17:50.48 | Landon | I think I've been in it two years, waited two hears, and heard about it after the first year |
| 17:50.52 | Landon | s/hears/years |
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| 17:53.52 | caden | someone ought to add to the 2009 entry in wikipedia for google summer of code soon |
| 17:54.46 | Landon | I am STARVING |
| 17:55.04 | Landon | caden: well... it is the encyclopedia everyone can edit.... |
| 17:55.09 | Landon | *finger on nose* |
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| 17:56.25 | dmitrig01 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSoC |
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| 18:04.02 | t0ms | hmm, why is google wave under GSoC 2009 ? |
| 18:05.41 | MarkieMark1 | Landon, you'll be pleased to hear the citi card is good for purchasing food then :) |
| 18:06.20 | Landon | MarkieMark1: true, but first week of classes |
| 18:06.22 | Landon | the union is CROWDED |
| 18:06.31 | Landon | or I might as well just walk home and make a sammich |
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| 18:26.03 | iElectric | ah, publication of results is postponed, I guess? |
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| 18:27.33 | caden | !timeline |
| 18:27.33 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline, or (#2) if you prefer a pretty visual timeline see http://is.gd/141Tu |
| 18:28.31 | iElectric | August 25: 19:00 UTC Final results of GSoC 2009 announced |
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| 18:33.04 | dberkholz | that's still half an hour by my watch =) |
| 18:34.12 | lh | and actually, we are annoucing tomorrow in an official blog post so if you want to get all pedantic, i can update the timeline online |
| 18:34.18 | lh | but not right now |
| 18:34.19 | lh | :) |
| 18:34.21 | iElectric | k |
| 18:34.25 | iElectric | thanks! |
| 18:34.29 | lh | np :) |
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| 18:35.01 | dberkholz | lh: will it be possible to get some anonymized data from the surveys (at least the numbers etc) so anyone can try analyzing it in various ways? |
| 18:35.09 | Landon | lh: only thing I could get pedantic about is when we're getting paid >.> |
| 18:35.30 | dberkholz | ponders lwn article |
| 18:35.38 | lh | Landon: talked to ellen about that she will be sending an update later today |
| 18:36.06 | Landon | sweet :) now maybe caden will stop bugging me ;) |
| 18:36.18 | lh | dberkholz: yes, that's certainly the plan. allman will be working on anonymizing the data and then all of you can chew on it. |
| 18:36.34 | dberkholz | awesome! |
| 18:36.39 | lh | dberkholz: and if you do another lwn article, i will be available for an interview if you need it |
| 18:37.58 | dberkholz | lh: ok, thanks for the offer! i will keep that in mind. maybe once i run some analyses, i'll ask what you think of my conclusions. |
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| 20:49.11 | subzero | !next |
| 20:49.12 | socinfo | "next" is Final evaluations due by August 24th, final results announced August 25th, 19:00 UTC |
| 20:53.33 | kblin | hm, good point |
| 20:53.49 | kblin | !forget next |
| 20:53.49 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 20:55.02 | kblin | !learn next as Final evaluations extended, now due 05:00 UTC August 26th, students get to start uploading their code on September 3rd |
| 20:55.02 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 20:58.20 | joeyadams | is socinfo based on candide, a bot used in ##c? |
| 20:59.11 | kblin | I think it's a supybot, but ask danderson for specifics |
| 20:59.22 | kblin | whereever he is these days |
| 20:59.23 | joeyadams | thanks, just curious |
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| 21:22.31 | Michelangelo | still hopes in the good lh |
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| 21:23.52 | lh | Michelangelo: this is going to take me until at least tomorrow. patience/ |
| 21:24.44 | Michelangelo | lh: np, patience is one of my strenghts... thanks! |
| 21:26.06 | Ivanovic | lh: only two slots per org is not enough, there are too many from wesnoth that would like to come over and since i was lucky last year chances for this year for me are really slim |
| 21:26.07 | Ivanovic | :( |
| 21:30.06 | lh | Ivanovic: you can go we just wont pay fo rit |
| 21:30.46 | Ivanovic | lh: and since i am still a student myself (no job and the likes) i can't afford to come over from europe all by myself |
| 21:30.50 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 21:31.31 | tierra | you'll just have to take your turn then and give others a chance to go :) |
| 21:31.56 | lh | Ivanovic: it will be ok. soothe soothe. |
| 21:31.59 | lh | goes to meeting |
| 21:32.18 | Ivanovic | needs a hug... |
| 21:32.19 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 21:32.21 | Ivanovic | have fun lh |
| 21:34.50 | MatthewWilkes | yayyyy, we've picked what breed of chickens we're getting. Roll on the weekend :) |
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| 21:45.46 | alexua | lh: quick question: when are we allowed to start announcing our orgs results? |
| 21:45.55 | alexua | looks like Drupal went 18 for 18 this year! :D |
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| 21:55.13 | tierra | alexua: wow, congratz |
| 21:55.38 | alexua | tierra: thanks (from the mentors and students, I was just the admin)! |
| 21:57.15 | tierra | alexua: I'd love to see a writeup of how Drupal ran the program (stuff like requirements for proposals, status updates, etc), so we all have some good tips for keeping students motivated and on schedule |
| 21:58.09 | tierra | I think our organization ran 3 for 3, but only one of them went above and beyond |
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| 21:59.07 | alexua | tierra: well, I'm not saying everyone went above and beyond |
| 21:59.23 | alexua | tierra: but last year we had 3 people who didn't pass |
| 21:59.41 | tierra | did you do much things much different this year? |
| 22:01.11 | dberkholz | if everyone went above and beyond, it wouldn't be above and beyond anymore =) |
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| 22:04.11 | alexua | dberkholz: very good point |
| 22:04.30 | alexua | tierra: not really, I don't think |
| 22:04.33 | Ivanovic | at wesnoth we got 5/6 passed |
| 22:04.46 | alexua | tierra: more lucky this time |
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| 22:05.17 | alexua | tierra: it's really hard to keep herding the cats, so to speak, and students can sometimes just disappear, even when they seemed promising before |
| 22:05.30 | alexua | tierra: I guess one thing is that Drupal is lucky enough to have a lot of repeat devs |
| 22:05.36 | alexua | or devs from within the community |
| 22:05.41 | alexua | who are still in college |
| 22:05.42 | Ivanovic | in general we don't have mandatory regular reports (though the mentor for the one student that failed had them, it has not helped at all, the student was completely MIA after mid term, we just heard again from him two weeks ago, his computer completely broke down and additionally some personal/family issues came in) |
| 22:06.13 | pygi | Ivanovic, I failed because of exactly that :P |
| 22:06.14 | pygi | reports |
| 22:06.17 | Ivanovic | yes, communication with him was not perfect, but regarding the stuff that happened to him post midterm changes in the program/on our side would probably not have helped too much |
| 22:06.21 | pygi | I was always available |
| 22:06.22 | alexua | so, I think it might have to do with # of slots vs. size of the community |
| 22:06.38 | alexua | drupal's community is big and growing fast |
| 22:06.49 | pygi | (as an example that reports can be important sometimes) |
| 22:07.03 | alexua | and attracts some geniuses like dmitrig01|afk |
| 22:07.07 | Ivanovic | pygi: they can be important and helpfull |
| 22:07.07 | alexua | :P |
| 22:07.17 | Ivanovic | but they won't be the perfect solution for anything |
| 22:07.24 | pygi | indeed |
| 22:07.54 | dmitrig01|afk | wha? |
| 22:07.57 | Ivanovic | they can help especially since they somehow enforce communications |
| 22:08.18 | Ivanovic | but if communications are already good they won't help (okay, it was not perfect with this student) |
| 22:08.32 | dmitrig01|afk | isn't in college |
| 22:08.39 | dmitrig01|afk | i'm going to start my freshman year of high school |
| 22:08.41 | Ivanovic | that is: there will always be some cases where personal issues prevent the project from being successfull |
| 22:08.45 | dmitrig01|afk | i started with drupal in 4th grade |
| 22:08.45 | dmitrig01|afk | :D |
| 22:12.06 | pygi | Ivanovic, successful project can be defined in number of ways |
| 22:12.17 | pygi | at least in my case this year finished code != successful project |
| 22:12.41 | Ivanovic | pygi: yeah |
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| 22:35.32 | lh | webchick: ping |
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| 22:39.21 | webchick | lh, hi there! |
| 22:39.25 | webchick | lh, what's up? :) |
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| 22:44.52 | lh | webchick: sorry to bug, alexua disappeared. |
| 22:45.03 | lh | he wanted to know when ok to publish results |
| 22:45.06 | webchick | lh, Um. Well that's not good. |
| 22:45.08 | lh | it is fine after 12 noon tomorrow |
| 22:45.13 | webchick | Oh, you mean temporarily disappeared. :) |
| 22:45.14 | lh | no all good, he just signed out |
| 22:45.17 | lh | yessum. :) |
| 22:45.20 | webchick | lh, Ok, awesome. I will let him know! |
| 22:45.22 | Ivanovic | lh: good to know |
| 22:45.27 | lh | Ivanovic: indeedy |
| 22:45.30 | lh | updates topic |
| 22:45.30 | webchick | lh, I was going to say "But jsut yesterday he said things were going so well !" :) |
| 22:45.53 | Ivanovic | wanted to know this, too (because i planned to write up some short summary about the wesnoth projects, basically consitsting of short project summarys done by our (successfull) students) |
| 22:46.16 | webchick | lh, How are you btw? :D You are proably very busy if results are being announced tomorrow after noon. ;) |
| 22:46.21 | *** topic/#gsoc by lh -> Official Annoucement of Results Tomorrow at 19:00 UTC, mentors please publish status reports post this announcement - Don't forget to fill in your Final Evaluation! - Deadline Extended to 05:00 UTC 26 August 2009, details on mentors list - Do Not Make LH hunt you down to get your evaluation, as she can feed your shirt to the wolverines - Find the Mentor <-> Student maps for each org here http://tinyurl.com/org-list - This channel is logged (!logs |
| 22:46.36 | lh | webchick: rotflmao. i am incredibly well. |
| 22:46.42 | webchick | Yay. :D |
| 22:47.01 | lh | moved in with new love, have a great new house, ghop is happening again this year, feeling the love |
| 22:47.03 | lh | how are you and marci |
| 22:47.27 | webchick | You... well that's AWESOME!! |
| 22:47.33 | webchick | is so out of the loop though. :( |
| 22:47.38 | lh | webchick: you have no idea. i quit smoking. |
| 22:47.42 | lh | ^^ |
| 22:47.46 | lh | i blame jack. |
| 22:47.48 | webchick | lh, YOU DID!! :D That's SO GREAT!! |
| 22:47.54 | lh | I know, tell me about it eh? |
| 22:47.55 | robbyoconnor | lh!!!!!!! |
| 22:47.59 | robbyoconnor | AWESOME |
| 22:48.03 | robbyoconnor | finally quit the cancer sticks :D |
| 22:48.03 | webchick | lh, Not because I'm all preachy, but because we love you and want you around a LONG time. :) |
| 22:48.06 | lh | robbyoconnor: yes my favorite spaz? :) |
| 22:48.08 | ThomasWaldmann | hey, ghop! :) |
| 22:48.10 | Ivanovic | webchick: of course you are out of the loop, lh was busy with "other stuff" over the last months so she could not have a look into irc and tell us about the news |
| 22:48.12 | lh | robbyoconnor: ah gotcha |
| 22:48.15 | robbyoconnor | I am not a spaz! |
| 22:48.24 | webchick | Ivanovic, ha. :) |
| 22:48.25 | robbyoconnor | walks into the wall |
| 22:48.26 | Mathuin | [quit smoking] Yep. My fault. :-) She did all the hard work, though -- and even climbed a mountain the same day. |
| 22:48.26 | ThomasWaldmann | .oO(we have lots to do :) |
| 22:48.32 | lh | Ivanovic: ok i feel properly spanked. |
| 22:48.34 | robbyoconnor | I was saying im happy you quit :) |
| 22:48.56 | lh | points at Mathuin. says blame Jack, points him at free couch |
| 22:48.57 | webchick | lh, Marci and I are great. Our 10-year anniversary was in March while I was at Drupalcon, so I made it up for her by taking her on a week-long romantic getaway to Vancouver which was AWESOME and now we're going to move there next summer if all goes well. :) |
| 22:49.00 | lh | it's our little famiyl tradition |
| 22:49.08 | lh | er s/famiyl/family |
| 22:49.17 | lh | robbyoconnor: all good. |
| 22:49.26 | webchick | Mathuin, Nice to meet you. :) Make sure you are good to lh or I will BEAT YOUR ASS DOWN. <3 |
| 22:49.28 | webchick | j/k l( |
| 22:49.29 | webchick | er ;) |
| 22:49.29 | lh | ThomasWaldmann: good! i also need someone to help Lennard fix melange |
| 22:49.30 | webchick | (kinda) |
| 22:49.34 | lh | damn. |
| 22:49.37 | Mathuin | webchick: the list is longer than you'd imagine. ;-) |
| 22:49.39 | webchick | hahaha |
| 22:49.39 | lh | Mathuin: i warned you. |
| 22:49.54 | lh | okay i really really do love you all but i have blog posts that are not gonna write themselves |
| 22:50.00 | robbyoconnor | Mathuin, yeh |
| 22:50.00 | MatthewWilkes | lh: I trust you will be forcing people at the mentor summit? |
| 22:50.02 | robbyoconnor | mess with lh |
| 22:50.03 | lh | so talk amongst yourselves |
| 22:50.06 | webchick | Yep, yep. Sorry for the distraction. Good to talk to you again though! |
| 22:50.08 | Ivanovic | webchick: if you need a hammer or a good axe to do so i can provide you with it |
| 22:50.08 | robbyoconnor | mess with a bunch of angry geeks :) |
| 22:50.10 | lh | MatthewWilkes: indeedy. |
| 22:50.12 | lh | wow. |
| 22:50.17 | lh | tsk tsks |
| 22:50.19 | Ivanovic | (just to make sure that lh got some kind of revange!) |
| 22:50.22 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 22:50.24 | webchick | Ivanovic, Um. That's a little extreme. But.. thanks! ;) |
| 22:50.28 | rohananil | lh: are the last years google summit videos of any session up on youtube ? |
| 22:50.29 | lh | be nice to Mathuin, he takes good care of me. |
| 22:50.36 | robbyoconnor | that's good |
| 22:50.38 | lh | rohananil: we did not make videos. no official ones. |
| 22:50.39 | rohananil | mentor summit ... |
| 22:50.39 | robbyoconnor | just fair warning :) |
| 22:50.41 | Ivanovic | webchick: is it really? |
| 22:50.42 | lh | ok |
| 22:50.43 | Mathuin | Besides, lh is too elegant to require tools like those. |
| 22:50.44 | lh | omg. |
| 22:50.55 | Mathuin | She's got that rapier wit. |
| 22:50.56 | webchick | hhahaha |
| 22:50.58 | lh | must. do. work. feeling. IRC. time. sink. |
| 22:51.01 | webchick | Mathuin, Oh, snap! |
| 22:51.05 | webchick | Someone kick lh from #gsoc. |
| 22:51.08 | Ivanovic | i am just talking about the small ones we use over here to cut wood into small pieces to use in the chimney |
| 22:51.12 | webchick | I guess I could do that. |
| 22:51.16 | webchick | lh, want me to kick you? ;) |
| 22:51.18 | Ivanovic | the axe only has ~2kg, the hammer 3 |
| 22:51.19 | tierra | heh |
| 22:51.43 | Mathuin | Ivanovic: I have a sixteen-pound sledge that's still packed, I can leave it out for you if you'd like. |
| 22:51.53 | webchick | I have a problem in that I have a bunch of work to get done, and IRC is really distracting BUT I need to be ON IRC to get that work done. |
| 22:51.53 | Mathuin | Very useful for pounding ground rods and the like. |
| 22:51.53 | webchick | It's tragic. |
| 22:52.12 | Ivanovic | Mathuin: no need to, especially since i would just lend it to webchick |
| 22:52.12 | tierra | I know how that goes |
| 22:52.14 | lh | serves iced tea (mint, black), cookies (chocolate chip, oatmeal with gluten free option), coffee (lots of it), guiness for MatthewWilkes et al., champagne, cucumber sandwiches for when Catfish_Man comes back, and lessee |
| 22:52.21 | lh | oh yeah |
| 22:52.21 | tierra | kicks lh |
| 22:52.22 | Ivanovic | the 16 pound one might be a little too heavy |
| 22:52.23 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 22:52.26 | dmitrig01|afk | GHOP!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:52.43 | lh | serves up some brownies and a fruit and cheese platter for scorche |
| 22:52.43 | dmitrig01|afk | YAY!!!! |
| 22:52.44 | lh | ok, now i am going to do real work. |
| 22:52.44 | dmitrig01 | is old enough this year |
| 22:52.44 | robbyoconnor | cucumber sandiwchs are the BOMB |
| 22:52.44 | webchick | Ivanovic, Do you doubt the raw strength of my rage? |
| 22:52.47 | lh | dmitrig01: yes. later. i promise. |
| 22:52.52 | Ivanovic | lh: why do you always serve the great stuff when i am about to head off to bed? |
| 22:52.53 | webchick | does the GHOP DANCE |
| 22:52.56 | Ivanovic | webchick: but you only got two hands |
| 22:53.05 | webchick | It's a strange undulation that looks a little disturbing. |
| 22:53.09 | lh | Mathuin: dmitrig01 is the 12 year old too young to be in the high school thingy so he mentored instead |
| 22:53.10 | Ivanovic | one for the 2kg axe, one for the hammer |
| 22:53.10 | ThomasWaldmann | wants a photo of lh with a big hammer and .oO(trust me, I know what I'm doing) |
| 22:53.11 | lh | ok |
| 22:53.16 | lh | now i am going away. for real. |
| 22:53.19 | Ivanovic | and a 8kg hammer is no fun with just one hand |
| 22:53.20 | dmitrig01 | cya lh |
| 22:53.21 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 22:53.22 | Mathuin | waves adieu to lh. |
| 22:53.24 | webchick | hahaha, bye lh :) |
| 22:53.32 | Ivanovic | cu lh |
| 22:53.33 | robbyoconnor | dmitrig01, is a freaking genius |
| 22:53.33 | dmitrig01 | and who are yuo, Mathuin |
| 22:53.34 | dmitrig01 | ? |
| 22:53.40 | robbyoconnor | her new love dmitrig01 :) |
| 22:53.43 | dmitrig01 | oh |
| 22:53.45 | dmitrig01 | nice to meet you :D |
| 22:53.48 | Mathuin | Likewise. |
| 22:53.52 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Cheers! |
| 22:53.52 | lh | blows a kiss to Mathuin and a curtsey to the room |
| 22:53.58 | lh | MatthewWilkes: bye |
| 22:54.04 | lh | run away now |
| 22:54.04 | robbyoconnor | have fun lh! |
| 22:54.06 | pygi | sends some cocoa and cookies to lh |
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| 22:54.36 | robbyoconnor | owwwies |
| 22:54.40 | robbyoconnor | head hurts |
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| 22:55.13 | Ivanovic | okay, 1am over here, i really should head off to bed now, n8 |
| 22:55.19 | Mathuin | dmitrig01: what project(s) did you mentor? |
| 22:55.23 | Mathuin | Ivanovic: night! |
| 22:55.24 | dmitrig01 | Drupal |
| 22:55.34 | dmitrig01 | <3 drupal |
| 22:55.44 | Ivanovic | dmitrig01: better try wesnoth |
| 22:55.47 | Mathuin | I recently talked to someone about Drupal. He gave an interesting presentation of it as a social publishing tool. |
| 22:55.49 | Ivanovic | it will cure you from anything else |
| 22:55.51 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 22:55.54 | dmitrig01 | I've played it |
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| 22:56.11 | Ivanovic | and you managed to stop? |
| 22:56.17 | dmitrig01 | it was hard |
| 22:56.18 | Ivanovic | wow, respect, many others got addicted... |
| 22:56.35 | dmitrig01 | hahaha |
| 22:56.41 | ThomasWaldmann | is addicted to Python |
| 22:56.56 | dmitrig01 | is addicted to Drupal |
| 22:57.00 | Ivanovic | ThomasWaldmann: try wesnoth, the new designer drug |
| 22:57.02 | dmitrig01 | I haven't managed to stop that |
| 22:57.11 | Ivanovic | completely legal (at least i hope so) and even *fun* |
| 22:57.16 | dmitrig01 | Mathuin: cool - yeah that's what we're billing ourselves as nowadays |
| 22:57.25 | Ivanovic | will make you see colored images and hear strange sounds |
| 22:57.30 | dmitrig01 | Mathuin: although I like to think of it more as "good code" |
| 22:57.30 | Ivanovic | and all basically for free |
| 22:57.37 | Mathuin | It makes so much more sense than "content management system", but I've ranted at lh about that before. |
| 22:57.42 | dmitrig01 | yeah |
| 22:57.49 | lh | oo wait |
| 22:57.51 | dmitrig01 | Ivanovic: time = money, so you lose a lot of money |
| 22:57.55 | lh | wait wait wait |
| 22:57.59 | lh | i need photos! |
| 22:58.01 | dmitrig01 | waits |
| 22:58.22 | dmitrig01 | of? |
| 22:58.23 | lh | anyone who wants their photo plastered on the official google blog to be seen by thousands of drooling readers to the tune of 526K |
| 22:58.26 | Ivanovic | lh not really "photos", but at least screenshots: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Screenshots |
| 22:58.27 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 22:58.29 | lh | i dont know some PR crap |
| 22:58.46 | Mathuin | So you want actual coders pretending to actually code or something? |
| 22:58.54 | dmitrig01 | people or project coders |
| 22:58.55 | lh | "the average reader spends approximately 35% more time on a blog post that contains an image than on one that does not." |
| 22:59.02 | dmitrig01 | LOL |
| 22:59.04 | lh | Mathuin: any shiny happy geeker |
| 22:59.09 | lh | er geekery |
| 22:59.15 | dmitrig01 | lh: btw |
| 22:59.21 | dmitrig01 | lh: http://bit.ly/JD3l2 |
| 22:59.25 | lh | in other words, i need photos to satisfy the normals. they ask i answerz. |
| 22:59.31 | Ivanovic | lh: so you want to create a blog post with myriads of images so that people stay there hours |
| 22:59.32 | Ivanovic | right? |
| 22:59.38 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Can't you access our webcams remotely yet? And I thought Google was all powerful! |
| 22:59.46 | lh | Ivanovic: or at the very least to send me lots and lots of chocolate. |
| 22:59.54 | lh | dmitrig01: that is the most awesome thing i have ever seen |
| 23:00.03 | Ivanovic | MatthewWilkes: we are geeks, we know how to remove the power plugs (usb plugs) from webcams... |
| 23:00.07 | dmitrig01 | lh: from left to right top to bottom, Nathaniel Catchpole, #2 patch contributor to Drupal 7, Dries, Druplicon, webchick, Damien Tournoud #1 patch tributor, and bottom chx (#3 contributor) |
| 23:00.18 | robbyoconnor | lh: http://docs.google.com/View?id=df8w66j7_54dhx2g5cd |
| 23:00.28 | makmanalp | just spent part of my gsoc money on this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834117938 |
| 23:00.32 | makmanalp | is happy :P |
| 23:00.35 | robbyoconnor | it's not fit for human consumption yet but i finished all the requirements :) |
| 23:00.36 | Ivanovic | lh: ah, and you say so now after you missed the chocholate session at the last mentor summit... |
| 23:00.43 | rohananil | waves at makmanalp |
| 23:00.49 | makmanalp | beats the hell out of my old laptop |
| 23:00.53 | makmanalp | hello rohananil |
| 23:00.59 | makmanalp | how did finals go? |
| 23:00.59 | rohananil | i spent it on gre booking :P |
| 23:01.06 | rohananil | yay! i passed |
| 23:01.06 | MatthewWilkes | Ivanovic: You tried the firefox3.5 geolocation yet? scaaaary! |
| 23:01.14 | Ivanovic | MatthewWilkes: no, i have not |
| 23:01.22 | lh | MatthewWilkes: no no i cant |
| 23:01.38 | lh | dmitrig01: it has a product logo in it, need photos of individuals. |
| 23:01.46 | Ivanovic | makmanalp: sweet |
| 23:01.50 | Ivanovic | though the OS sucks |
| 23:01.51 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 23:01.56 | MatthewWilkes | Ivanovic: Go to google maps and click the button on the left with a circle on it |
| 23:02.04 | makmanalp | Ivanovic: i'm getting linux on it asap :) |
| 23:02.08 | lh | Ivanovic: i was busy. |
| 23:02.12 | lh | makmanalp: good for you |
| 23:02.18 | MatthewWilkes | Ivanovic: betweeen street view and the arrow keys |
| 23:02.32 | Ivanovic | MatthewWilkes: uhm, i got no such button there |
| 23:02.34 | robbyoconnor | lh: I'm trying to get a post-soc meetp organized in NYC again |
| 23:02.35 | lh | robbyoconnor: if you dont finish this year i will personally come and find you. and explain to you to not ever ever hurt floss again. |
| 23:02.41 | robbyoconnor | lh: i did! |
| 23:02.42 | lh | robbyoconnor: i saw good for you |
| 23:02.48 | makmanalp | lh: you know that feeling when you're about to buy something huge and you feel like you're gonna regret it afterwards |
| 23:02.49 | Ivanovic | right, and in germany there is not too much regarding street view as of yet |
| 23:02.53 | robbyoconnor | Just we hit design walls |
| 23:02.53 | ThomasWaldmann | makmanalp: do they still disable VT? |
| 23:02.54 | lh | robbyoconnor: you said not fit for human consumption |
| 23:02.54 | MatthewWilkes | Ivanovic: FF 3.5? |
| 23:02.57 | makmanalp | lh: i had that for the past month |
| 23:02.58 | lh | makmanalp: no, i dont buy things. |
| 23:03.02 | robbyoconnor | you can enter data |
| 23:03.02 | Ivanovic | makmanalp: i really injoy my thinkpad x60t |
| 23:03.08 | robbyoconnor | but can't do squat w/ it |
| 23:03.09 | makmanalp | lh: i assume that was sarcasm :P |
| 23:03.09 | Ivanovic | (and i also got a refund for windows!) |
| 23:03.10 | lh | robbyoconnor: that's good |
| 23:03.12 | robbyoconnor | they knew this :) |
| 23:03.24 | makmanalp | ThomasWaldmann: yeah but you can patch the bios and it works |
| 23:03.32 | Ivanovic | makmanalp: uhm, yeah, FF 3.5 |
| 23:03.38 | lh | makmanalp: not really, i dont buy expensive things. i dont like it when they break and i get pissed off. like when my car got rear ended last week. first thing i thought was thank god i have a crappy honda. |
| 23:03.41 | robbyoconnor | lh: if i fixed the design problems i would not have finished |
| 23:03.47 | makmanalp | Ivanovic: i looked at thinkpads but i have no desktop so this felt better |
| 23:03.52 | robbyoconnor | So we left it as-is |
| 23:03.56 | makmanalp | Ivanovic: otherwise i'd prolly get a thinkpad |
| 23:04.04 | ThomasWaldmann | makmanalp: ah, good. that was the reason for me to get a tp x300 and not a sony. |
| 23:04.09 | Ivanovic | makmanalp: yeah, i got a desktop and the 12" thinkpad was really great for university |
| 23:04.10 | lh | robbyoconnor: omg. fix it. now. |
| 23:04.18 | lh | shakes head, serves more tea |
| 23:04.25 | makmanalp | Ivanovic: yeah i used an old 2nd hand one for a long time |
| 23:04.32 | Ivanovic | (especially with the 4:3 screen in 12" with a res of 1400x1050, this is *lovely*) |
| 23:04.35 | robbyoconnor | lh: !! it was finished to my mentors' satisfaction |
| 23:04.45 | makmanalp | lh: yeah, but i figure this is my only tool and i spend 8 hours a day with it so i might as well splurge a little |
| 23:04.49 | lh | robbyoconnor: which one of them? brian or ben or darius? |
| 23:04.52 | robbyoconnor | which reminds me I need to get OpenMRS 1.5.x installed and working again |
| 23:04.54 | lh | makmanalp: i totally understand |
| 23:04.59 | Ivanovic | makmanalp: but yeah, as desktop replacement the sony sounds nice |
| 23:05.01 | robbyoconnor | Mike Seaton was my mentor |
| 23:05.18 | robbyoconnor | Darius my backup |
| 23:05.21 | Ivanovic | robbyoconnor: no names, now the google task force can find him! |
| 23:05.24 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 23:05.25 | makmanalp | Ivanovic: 16.4 inches and still lighter than my old dell :P |
| 23:05.34 | Ivanovic | makmanalp: hehe |
| 23:05.35 | robbyoconnor | Ivanovic, uhm... it's there on my application :P |
| 23:05.47 | robbyoconnor | and HELL look at my project page in malange |
| 23:05.51 | lh | dmitrig01: can i use your photo from your drupalcon talk for my open source blog post? |
| 23:05.53 | Ivanovic | i got my x60t i had an 12" g4 ibook |
| 23:06.04 | dmitrig01 | lh: link pls |
| 23:06.19 | Ivanovic | that was almost three years old when i sold it via ebay (original price ~1k â¬), i still got 430⬠for it |
| 23:06.19 | lh | dmitrig01: finding |
| 23:06.41 | Ivanovic | weight of the thinkpad is slightly less, speed is *a lot* faster |
| 23:06.56 | lh | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_S5_xMiIF4Sc/Sc0UfptR4OI/AAAAAAAAAA8/flbmc4_udQo/s1600-h/Dmitri.jpg |
| 23:06.59 | Ivanovic | (okay, 1.2ghz g4 vs core2duo 1.5ghz) |
| 23:07.01 | lh | dmitrig01: ^^ |
| 23:07.06 | dmitrig01 | lh: you ca |
| 23:07.08 | dmitrig01 | lh: or http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2224/2309672430_a04262c35c.jpg?v=0 |
| 23:07.10 | dmitrig01 | two mentors :D |
| 23:07.10 | Mathuin | really needs to find a better irc client than ircii if he's gonna visit here very often. goodness. |
| 23:07.26 | Ivanovic | Mathuin: if you are on kde: try konversation |
| 23:07.41 | dmitrig01 | or http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2329/2337640709_8b83d6ca7e.jpg?v=0 is not a great pic but was at the mentor summit |
| 23:08.05 | rohananil | Ivanovic: i cant seem to find proxy settings on konversation, so i use pidgin |
| 23:08.21 | lh | Mathuin: konversation is awesome. but will not work for you. try xchat |
| 23:08.29 | Ivanovic | rohananil: uhm, no need to find them right in konversation, they should be done right in kde |
| 23:08.34 | *** join/#gsoc allisterb_ (n=allister@cuscon126448.tstt.net.tt) |
| 23:08.58 | lh | should run on freebsd, windows, linux, mac |
| 23:09.06 | makmanalp | Mathuin: irssi :) |
| 23:09.07 | rohananil | Ivanovic: somehow i managed to get it not to work ... :P |
| 23:09.07 | lh | actually mac is xchat aqua which has the worst UI I have ever seen. |
| 23:09.08 | lh | ever. |
| 23:09.16 | lh | is not a fan of irssi or ircii |
| 23:09.23 | makmanalp | ah |
| 23:09.28 | Ivanovic | rohananil: okay, i don't really need a proxy, i use my nslu2 with miau as bouncer |
| 23:09.30 | Ivanovic | works nicely |
| 23:09.34 | makmanalp | i find it helpfu when i have 20 windows open |
| 23:09.40 | makmanalp | *helpful |
| 23:09.43 | lh | dmitrig01: yes that picture of you and chx is *it* |
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| 23:09.47 | Mathuin | As lh knows, I'm on FreeBSD. Additionally, I'm restricted to command-line (i.e., something that runs in an xterm) and when I can run X I'm allergic to both KDE and Gnome. |
| 23:09.51 | dmitrig01 | ok cool |
| 23:09.55 | lh | do you have original url to flckr for said photo of you and chx? |
| 23:09.57 | ThomasWaldmann | irssi is nice if you run it on a inet server in screen via ssh |
| 23:09.58 | dmitrig01 | yeah |
| 23:10.06 | dmitrig01 | uses colloquy and is unsure of anything better, but colloquiy sucks |
| 23:10.09 | Mathuin | ThomasWaldmann: that's just about exactly my MO. |
| 23:10.22 | dmitrig01 | lh: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hadsie/2309672430/ |
| 23:10.24 | lh | dmitrig01: colloquy does suck |
| 23:10.39 | ThomasWaldmann | Mathuin: MO? |
| 23:10.46 | Ivanovic | dmitrig01: on osx i'd go for xchat aqua |
| 23:10.55 | Mathuin | ThomasWaldmann: modus operandi. the way I do things. |
| 23:11.03 | Ivanovic | that was what i was using back in the days when i still was on apple |
| 23:11.39 | MatthewWilkes | XChat Aqua is the best of a bad bunch |
| 23:12.04 | MatthewWilkes | I was, for a while, using netcat to connect, as most Mac IRC clients infuriated me |
| 23:12.04 | lh | Mathuin: babe what was intersection where my car was smushed? |
| 23:12.08 | MatthewWilkes | also, meant I got more work done |
| 23:12.10 | lh | Ivanovic: you are crazy |
| 23:12.15 | lh | xchat aqua sucks |
| 23:12.18 | lh | Mathuin: nm |
| 23:12.19 | Mathuin | lh: you have a saved google map thing you created. |
| 23:12.20 | Ivanovic | lh: you should know that by now! |
| 23:12.31 | Mathuin | The most graphical IRC client I've used since the nineties is Chatzilla, actually. |
| 23:12.32 | Ivanovic | lh: yes, compared to konversation it does suck |
| 23:12.43 | Ivanovic | lh: compared to the other stuff available on osx it is *great* |
| 23:13.26 | thebolt | hi all |
| 23:13.31 | Ivanovic | lh: that is osx sucks in several areas (i especially disliked the folder "masking" it did with translations in the file manager finder |
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| 23:13.50 | lh | Mathuin: i know but am otp with insurance company and writing posts and, well stuff. |
| 23:13.51 | Ivanovic | it had shown completely different names in the file manager than the folders i saw in the terminal |
| 23:13.58 | lh | Ivanovic: colloquy is better |
| 23:13.58 | Ivanovic | *this* really sucks |
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| 23:14.30 | Mathuin | lh: yay for otp insurance. |
| 23:14.43 | Ivanovic | lh: hmm, when i used it the last time (january 2008) that was IMO not the case |
| 23:15.33 | ajuonline | pygi: |
| 23:15.34 | Ivanovic | but even at that time i really prefered my desktop for irc since here i got a gentoo with kde and all the bells and whistles (and a 1920x1200 screen instead of the crappy 1024x768 i had on my ibook) |
| 23:15.45 | ajuonline | lh: o haai lady, how are you today? |
| 23:16.00 | Ivanovic | it feels so strange if the irc window covers all of the screen without any way to eg see a movie in parallel |
| 23:17.24 | Ivanovic | anyway, i can almost hear my bed screem for my presence... |
| 23:17.27 | Ivanovic | really n8 now |
| 23:17.28 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 23:18.14 | ajuonline | ur bed screams? |
| 23:18.18 | ajuonline | o.O |
| 23:18.35 | Ivanovic | ajuonline: could also have been the radio, not 100% sure |
| 23:18.45 | ajuonline | screaming beds scare me |
| 23:18.57 | Ivanovic | that is: don't drink a double zombie right after doing sports, not too many people can cope with this... |
| 23:18.59 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 23:19.13 | ajuonline | heh, sleep well! good night |
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| 23:21.13 | robbyoconnor | Ivanovic, the voices in your head, just tell them to stfu :) |
| 23:30.46 | lh | Mathuin: AAA accepted fault. woot. |
| 23:30.56 | lh | ajuonline: i am well, and thee? btw, meet smitten |
| 23:30.59 | lh | Mathuin: meet ajay |
| 23:31.23 | ajuonline | Mathuin: is jack? |
| 23:31.54 | ajuonline | lh: i am very well. finally got the much needed sleep. although I am up in this hour 5am. |
| 23:31.57 | robbyoconnor | is happy to see lh happy |
| 23:32.08 | robbyoconnor | is also jealous :) |
| 23:32.17 | Mathuin | Hello! |
| 23:32.34 | Mathuin | And yay on fault acceptance without a fight. |
| 23:32.41 | ajuonline | Mathuin: Hi Jack! |
| 23:33.04 | Mathuin | ajuonline: Hello! |
| 23:33.20 | ajuonline | Mathuin: congratulations on moving in together :) |
| 23:33.39 | Mathuin | ajuonline: Thank you! We are both very excited. |
| 23:33.52 | ajuonline | all the very best to both of yoU! :D |
| 23:34.12 | lh | ajuonline: yes, yes he is. and you need to sleep sweetheart. |
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| 23:34.17 | Mathuin | ajuonline: right now I'd settle for an automagic unpacker-and-putter-awayer. Good night! |
| 23:34.52 | lh | robbyoconnor: no jealous. do you have any idea what i had to put up with for this? no, no you don't. |
| 23:34.55 | ajuonline | Mathuin: good night! sleep well :) |
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| 23:35.18 | ajuonline | lh: i had enough sleep. its just that my timing is screwed up :/ |
| 23:35.42 | lh | ajuonline: ah. that. i have been going to bed at 1ish and waking at 6ish. it sucks, |
| 23:35.58 | ajuonline | lh: oh i needed a favour from ya. our friend pygi needs to be told again, how awesome he is. |
| 23:36.05 | robbyoconnor | lh: eh |
| 23:36.06 | robbyoconnor | =) |
| 23:36.10 | lh | robbyoconnor: someday you will meet a nice boy. someone different. some delicate fragile creature who is giving you an urge to shelter and protect. |
| 23:36.14 | lh | ajuonline: ok |
| 23:36.25 | robbyoconnor | right now wants to murder :D |
| 23:36.27 | lh | pygi: hey kid you're awesome. have a cookie. no pony for you though. |
| 23:36.36 | robbyoconnor | erm did I just admit that in a logged channel? |
| 23:36.38 | lh | robbyoconnor: this is a usual state of being for you. take the meds. |
| 23:36.54 | ajuonline | lh: he has been sad, since the results were out |
| 23:36.55 | robbyoconnor | lh, i'm not a homocidal maniac! |
| 23:36.56 | robbyoconnor | :) |
| 23:37.05 | ajuonline | lh: and he doesnt make fun of me anymore :-/ |
| 23:37.06 | robbyoconnor | ajuonline, i passed... why would I be sad? |
| 23:37.07 | robbyoconnor | :P |
| 23:37.19 | ajuonline | robbyoconnor: me talking about pygi |
| 23:37.33 | robbyoconnor | oh |
| 23:37.39 | lh | robbyoconnor: no you just need to take your meds dear. |
| 23:37.42 | robbyoconnor | world doesn't revolve around me?! |
| 23:37.58 | lh | or get laid^H^H drink more. |
| 23:38.01 | lh | hands cip of tea |
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| 23:38.05 | lh | ajuonline: that's a tragedu |
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| 23:38.09 | lh | er tragedy |
| 23:38.17 | lh | lewing: how is the family? |
| 23:38.23 | Mathuin | [drink more] Yet another reason to pick up homebrewing. |
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| 23:39.14 | pygi | ajuonline, lh heh |
| 23:40.24 | robbyoconnor | pygi, make fun of ajuonline |
| 23:40.28 | robbyoconnor | he needs to feel loved |
| 23:40.30 | pygi | robbyoconnor, no, thank you |
| 23:40.36 | robbyoconnor | MAKE FUN OF HIM NOW! |
| 23:40.47 | pygi | nah |
| 23:40.53 | robbyoconnor | shoves pygi off the same bridge he pushed ankitg off of |
| 23:41.04 | pygi | enough years of gsoc for me, I think |
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| 23:41.12 | lh | robbyoconnor: this is a civilized channel. go sit on the free couch and CTFO. |
| 23:41.14 | robbyoconnor | pygi, failed this summer? :) |
| 23:41.15 | pygi | time to do other things, I'm getting too old for this |
| 23:41.22 | lh | pygi: lies. |
| 23:41.23 | robbyoconnor | er :( |
| 23:41.25 | pygi | robbyoconnor, yes, because I didn't communicate |
| 23:41.29 | pygi | xD |
| 23:41.30 | robbyoconnor | hugs pygi |
| 23:41.34 | robbyoconnor | I'm sorry :( |
| 23:41.37 | lh | pygi: what? how come dude? |
| 23:41.40 | pygi | lh, not lies, just the truth |
| 23:41.44 | robbyoconnor | =( |
| 23:42.07 | lh | pygi: i think it was cuz you were too busy pickin up chicks. i know you. i saw the photos. |
| 23:42.10 | robbyoconnor | offers pygi a free hug or 10,000 |
| 23:42.13 | lh | ok, now i talks to swetland. :p |
| 23:42.16 | pygi | lh, easy. I wrote code, and didn't write reports often/good enough, mostly because I didn't care. |
| 23:42.24 | pygi | lh, nah, my gf is the best girl in the world ;) |
| 23:42.28 | ajuonline | lh: pygi chicks? where? |
| 23:42.44 | matthewwilkes_ | is getting chicks soon, so excited |
| 23:42.53 | ajuonline | pygi: u sure know u cant be cheating on her? |
| 23:43.07 | robbyoconnor | matthewwilkes, mailed away for that bride finally? |
| 23:43.11 | pygi | lh, but in the end, it doesn't matter. As I said, I'm becoming too old for this. |
| 23:43.15 | matthewwilkes_ | robbyoconnor: Nope, getting 3 hens |
| 23:43.19 | pygi | ajuonline, what kind of question is that... |
| 23:43.20 | ajuonline | pygi: orly grandpa? |
| 23:43.21 | matthewwilkes_ | young'uns |
| 23:43.24 | summatusmentis | hi all |
| 23:43.30 | robbyoconnor | oh literal chicks lol |
| 23:43.31 | pygi | lh, thanks for all your work ;) |
| 23:43.40 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: today is hug pygi day |
| 23:43.46 | summatusmentis | eew |
| 23:43.48 | pygi | not really, no |
| 23:43.52 | summatusmentis | I don't really do hugs |
| 23:44.05 | pygi | summatusmentis, he's making it up :) |
| 23:44.17 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: u suck :P |
| 23:44.29 | robbyoconnor | pygi, I wrote progress reports VERY infrequently -- just regularly spoke to my mentor :X |
| 23:44.30 | summatusmentis | pygi: he does that |
| 23:44.37 | summatusmentis | ajay, I don't need your guff |
| 23:44.45 | pygi | robbyoconnor, I've been available to my mentor all the time :) |
| 23:44.50 | pygi | but as I said, it is an error on my part |
| 23:44.51 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: hows ur new eee? |
| 23:45.04 | matthewwilkes_ | robbyoconnor: Hopefully some of these, http://www.anniehallspoultry.co.uk/uploads/images/bluebell.jpg - they went up on the site today |
| 23:45.10 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: typing on it now :) and loving it |
| 23:45.14 | summatusmentis | it's like a baby |
| 23:45.14 | pygi | I assumed just because I was a mentor before, and because I have few projects and GSoCs behind me, that I'd get some kind of credit |
| 23:45.32 | pygi | but I made several mistakes, so this is what you get |
| 23:45.39 | pygi | it doesn't matter... the organization got its code |
| 23:45.45 | pygi | and if time permits, I'll continue working on it |
| 23:46.23 | pygi | (without a mentor tho, that will be good this time ... to be free :)) |
| 23:46.50 | ThomasWaldmann | free willy! |
| 23:47.06 | pygi | haha I remember you |
| 23:47.09 | pygi | you're that MoinMoin folk |
| 23:47.10 | Mathuin | summatusmentis: which eee did you get? |
| 23:47.32 | ThomasWaldmann | yeah :) |
| 23:47.38 | lh | is sorry now she started all this discussion of chicks. |
| 23:47.40 | lh | sigh. |
| 23:47.47 | lh | slaps own hand, goes back to talking about swetland |
| 23:47.54 | lh | er to swetland. |
| 23:47.56 | summatusmentis | Mathuin: sellout.woot had the eee 900a for $170 a few days ago, so my parents got it for my birthday |
| 23:48.01 | summatusmentis | sweatland~ |
| 23:48.01 | pygi | ThomasWaldmann, cool, my memory still serves me well :) |
| 23:48.07 | summatusmentis | lh: how goes? |
| 23:48.20 | Mathuin | summatusmentis: very nice! I have a 700 and a 1000h. wish they were supported better under FreeBSD but other than that love them lots. |
| 23:48.33 | summatusmentis | Mathuin: I just intalled eeebuntu today :) |
| 23:49.03 | ajuonline | duh I could use one EEE |
| 23:49.05 | dberkholz | i have some frankenstein of eeebuntu and ubuntu netbook remix on mine |
| 23:49.20 | ajuonline | i think I should just get it shipped, summatusmentis do they have it up for sale still? |
| 23:49.35 | matthewwilkes_ | robbyoconnor: Isn't it cute!? :) |
| 23:50.21 | summatusmentis | dberkholz: well, yeah, mines eeebuntu - netbook remix edition |
| 23:50.46 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: it was a one day sale, there's a place you can buy them refurbed for $260, but no atom cpu |
| 23:50.58 | Mathuin | summatusmentis: alas, I'm partial to the daemon. :-) |
| 23:51.09 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: err no. just let me know, if its up again :D for sale! |
| 23:51.17 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: to get it shipped to India i need to pay mor |
| 23:51.55 | ajuonline | lh: who doesnt like chicks? *whistles away* |
| 23:52.31 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: yeah, I do't know |
| 23:53.22 | pygi | be polite |
| 23:53.25 | pygi | this is a serious channel |
| 23:53.47 | pygi | lets talk about compiler design I have in my head... |
| 23:54.28 | pygi | can see nobody is interested :-/ |
| 23:55.35 | ajuonline | did I say, ebay and paypal suck? |
| 23:56.54 | lh | ajuonline: it happens to the best of us. |
| 23:57.04 | lh | summatusmentis: i am very well jake, and you? |
| 23:57.17 | lh | pygi: i am totally totally interested in your compiler design |
| 23:57.23 | lh | bbl |
| 23:57.27 | ajuonline | hah lies |
| 23:57.32 | pygi | yes, so much that you are leaving :p |
| 23:57.40 | Mathuin | Hee hee hee. |
| 23:57.40 | ajuonline | pygi: yeah, lies ;) |
| 23:58.35 | ajuonline | pygi: i am keen to know where did lh see you in pictures with chicks? |
| 23:58.47 | pygi | ajuonline, stop being curious |
| 23:59.31 | lh | ajuonline: shhh. i didn't see pictures. |
| 23:59.38 | lh | pygi: i have to do this work thing. |
| 23:59.45 | ajuonline | pygi: inquisitive is my second name :P |
| 23:59.52 | pygi | lh, I know kid, I'm joking ;) |
