IRC log for #gsoc on 20090826

00:00.48pygilh, and I have to sleep, its 2AM
00:00.48MathuinWell, it's been nice chatting with you guys, but the big hand just hit twelve and the little hand's on five so I'm going to log out and head home.
00:00.48MathuinNice to meet you, and I'll visit again soon!
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00:02.55matthewwilkes_.oO(Robby's not getting any of my eggs now he's failed to comment on his chicks' cuteness)
00:02.57lhpygi: sleep well dear
00:03.05lhisn't he awesome? :)
00:03.08lhbeams
00:03.18lhgest back to work.
00:03.29lhmatthewwilkes_: robby likes the other other not chick.
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00:04.13matthewwilkes_lh: ?
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00:04.37ajuonlinecan haz chicks?
00:04.42ajuonlineerr i mean chickens
00:04.47ajuonlineis hungry!
00:05.10ajuonlinei think my mom just woke up. i should ask for breakfast
00:05.33pygi...
00:05.40pygihave you ever thought of creating breakfast for her?
00:05.42pygiyou should, really
00:05.48pygiis sleeping now for real ^_^
00:05.56lhmatthewwilkes_: i think that is my polite way of saying robby is gay.
00:05.56pygilh, thank you kid ^_^
00:06.02lhpygi: yw
00:06.12matthewwilkes_lh: Ah, I'm talking about poultry
00:06.19ajuonlineyeah me too
00:06.23lhmatthewwilkes_: oh. this makes much more sense.
00:06.29ajuonlinewhat did ya'll think i was talking about?
00:06.32lhi am talking about turkeys. because i am one.
00:06.33lh:)
00:06.35ajuonlinesheesh
00:06.36matthewwilkes_lh: Hopefully going to get chickens this weekend :)
00:06.48matthewwilkes_depends if we can get a ride
00:08.43dmitrig01has chickens
00:08.45ajuonlinepygi: good night kid :P
00:08.50ajuonlinedmitrig01: i can haz some?
00:09.13ajuonlineah i missed to make an announce
00:09.19dmitrig01http://www.flickr.com/photos/23649455@N03/3663255699/in/photostream/
00:10.10dmitrig01(used to be http://www.flickr.com/photos/23649455@N03/3526624219/in/photostream/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/23649455@N03/3527435176/in/photostream/
00:10.13dmitrig01)
00:10.15summatusmentislh: sorry, I was fighting with the eee. I'm also well, hot and gross, but well
00:10.26matthewwilkes_dmitrig01: Nice :)
00:10.38matthewwilkes_the black one is so pretty!
00:10.48dmitrig01thx
00:10.56matthewwilkes_Shostakovich, I think
00:10.58ajuonlinedmitrig01: what speakers you got foryourself?
00:11.07dmitrig01in between the two http://www.flickr.com/photos/23649455@N03/3572799650/in/photostream/
00:11.14dmitrig01ajuonline: maudio studio pro 3
00:11.23ajuonlinedmitrig01: ah they are sweet, the chickens i mean
00:11.27dmitrig01:D
00:11.29lhsummatusmentis: you just missed the boy.
00:11.35lhsummatusmentis: how come hot and gross
00:11.44matthewwilkes_dmitrig01: We're probably getting 16 week old ones, as we aren't allowed them in the house :(
00:11.45summatusmentisthe boy? your boy?
00:11.55ajuonlinesummatusmentis: yeah her boy :P
00:12.00summatusmentislh: I live in the midwest, it gets humid here
00:12.05dmitrig01matthewwilkes_: yeah ours are almost 16 weeks
00:12.15dmitrig01summatusmentis: i just got back from two weeks in st louis
00:12.28matthewwilkes_might be able to get them just out of heat though, if we're lucky
00:12.29lhmutters something about mr.-firefox-chrome never being bothered to visit the #gsoc and spend time with the grumble grumble
00:12.33summatusmentisdmitrig01: ick, on purpose?
00:12.45dmitrig01i didn't want to go in the middle of summer
00:12.46lhsummatusmentis: ah ha! excellent point.
00:12.52lhi fear the midwest my friend
00:13.10dmitrig01matthewwilkes_: ours don't lay yet
00:13.12summatusmentislh: it's not horrible, but c'est la vie
00:13.13Landondon't fear the reaper :(
00:13.17LandonI mean, midwest
00:13.34summatusmentisLandon: you live in the fake midwest >_>
00:13.43LandonI live in the mid-midwest
00:13.43Landon:P
00:14.05Landonhas a group of freshman to look up to me this year *-*
00:14.07Landonso entertaining
00:14.20matthewwilkes_I was speaking to a guy at a festival the other week who has 20 hens all called "Isolde" and a cock called "Tristan"
00:14.27Landonhehehe
00:14.32anothy_xi think i'm likely in the fake midwest, too.
00:14.39dmitrig01matthewwilkes_: LOL
00:14.44anothy_xdoesn't feel like the midwest, anyway, but that's what the government tells me.
00:14.46Landongoes to spam all my noobers wiht emails
00:14.59dmitrig01matthewwilkes_: the black one (shostakovich) is a barred plymouth rock
00:15.17dmitrig01matthewwilkes_: mozart (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23649455@N03/3664058200/in/photostream/) is a golden laced wyandotte
00:15.25dmitrig01matthewwilkes_: reich is a buff orphington
00:15.53lhmatthewwilkes_: that is awesome dude.
00:16.07dmitrig01matthewwilkes_: cutie pie (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23649455@N03/3664058480/in/photostream/) is a rhode island whte, and blue man (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23649455@N03/3664058070/in/photostream/) is an americauna
00:16.12matthewwilkes_lh: I thought you'd appreciate it.  :)
00:16.55robbyoconnormatthewwilkes_, i was talking w/ my parents and aunt lol
00:17.02robbyoconnorand i have a monster headache :(
00:17.31matthewwilkes_dmitrig01: We've got our eyes on Blue Bell Marans (http://www.anniehallspoultry.co.uk/uploads/images/bluebell.jpg) from the local place, but there's one a little way away that has columbines (http://www.newlandgrange.com/userimages/columbines07.jpg) which would be awesome
00:17.44matthewwilkes_The columbines have a 80% chance of laying blue eggs, 20% pastel
00:17.59dmitrig01neat
00:18.12dmitrig01americaunas lay blue eggs
00:18.18dmitrig01the bluebell is pretty
00:19.55dmitrig01matthewwilkes_: how many are you thinking about getting?
00:20.16matthewwilkes_dmitrig01: 3
00:20.28dmitrig01a rooster too?
00:20.31matthewwilkes_Nope
00:20.37dmitrig01it's illegal for us :D
00:20.41matthewwilkes_We don't have a very big garden
00:20.46matthewwilkes_and we live in the middle of a city
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00:21.03dmitrig01matthewwilkes_: yeah
00:21.18dmitrig01matthewwilkes_: here is some advice: you can never keep them too protected from predators :D
00:21.22matthewwilkes_We couldn't get more that 3 in the space
00:21.31anothy_xyou can do a lot in a little space.
00:22.09matthewwilkes_dmitrig01: There are 3m high walls around the garden, with spikey bushes around them which keep most casual visitors out.  We will keep on our guard though
00:22.11dmitrig01matthewwilkes_: we completely fenced in an area (from all sides, including top) and a raccoon got in still
00:22.20dmitrig01under the door
00:22.25dmitrig01so now we poured concrete there
00:23.26anothy_xthere's this film "Home Grown" about some folks living on a 1/5th acre plot in pasadena. they produce over 6k lbs of produce every year.
00:23.36anothy_xon top of chickens, ducks, and a goat or two.
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00:23.53matthewwilkes_dmitrig01: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=51.461055,-2.601076&spn=0.00048,0.00142&t=h&z=20&msid=106813653801420175814.0004720074e26d85e47fd = my house
00:23.59dmitrig01i want to get goats
00:24.25dmitrig01but ewe don't have that much room either
00:24.30anothy_xthe family runs http://pathtofreedom.com/
00:24.42dmitrig01anothy_x: i want to do that kind of thing but my parents enforce that there must be a lawn
00:26.10anothy_xmy town enforces various things about the front yard. we've pretty much torn up the back.
00:26.15anothy_xmaking plans for the front for next summer.
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00:38.26lhi miss having chickens and other aminals
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00:46.54summatusmentisno animals lh? sadday
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00:50.09subzerohi, does anyone know if all the good/passed and bad/did n't passed mails were sent?
00:50.58anothy_xthey were. at least the first round.
00:55.15lhsummatusmentis: we have a cat. but that's not the same. i loved having goats, guinea pigs, chickens, etc. growing up. i think it grounds one well.
00:55.35summatusmentisI do not like farm animals
00:55.54summatusmentisstinky
00:56.29summatusmentisparticularly guinea pigs >_>
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01:00.49lhsubzero: yes they were
01:00.53lhsummatusmentis: that's fair
01:01.21summatusmentislh: yus :-P
01:02.22matthewwilkes_punches timecard
01:02.38matthewwilkes_16 hour working day, time for bed
01:02.40matthewwilkes_night all!
01:03.01scorche|shpunches QuickBooks
01:04.19subzerolh: thanks. I'm asking that because I have not gotten  that mail :(
01:10.10subzerolh: getting no mail = fail GSoC ?
01:11.36anothy_xamong our org, anyway, everyone got mail.
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01:13.00dmitrig01hm, mentor summit falls on my birthday, not sure if i should go
01:13.23scorche|shwhat better way to celebrate ;)
01:14.18subzeroanothy_x:  mm, you're scaring me...no mail :(
01:14.51anothy_xdon't know what to tell you, sorry.
01:15.23matthewwilkes_subzero: No, no mail = failure of automated mailout
01:15.36matthewwilkes_students who failed also got a mail
01:16.03matthewwilkes_subzero: Ask your mentor or wait for the official announcement tomorrow
01:16.36codestasher<PROTECTED>
01:16.53matthewwilkes_codestasher: Why?
01:17.10subzeromatthewwilkes_:thanks. I'm just thinking if it's a problem around my mail... since I had problems to access GSoC list :S
01:17.12codestasherat least for me , i feel nervous in doing so
01:17.52matthewwilkes_codestasher: We're normal people too.  I had my student talk to me about how I thought she was doing a few months ago, no issues with that at all
01:17.56dmitrig01codestasher: do you think you passed?
01:18.11matthewwilkes_In fact, I was glad to see her keeping an eye on her performance
01:18.16codestasheryeah i think so
01:18.49matthewwilkes_The students that failed at Plone know they failed, we make sure to be up front with people
01:18.51codestasheri interacted with mentor daily @ matthewwilkes_
01:19.03codestasherso we both had our eyes on my performance
01:19.17anothy_xas an org admin, i'd have been pretty upset if someone failed and didn't know it ahead of time.
01:19.40matthewwilkes_indeed anothy_x
01:20.55lhdmitrig01: happy bday in advance. :)
01:21.01dmitrig01lh: thanks
01:21.10lhsubzero: pm me your real name so i can check for you ok?
01:21.34lhsubzero: and please to make it quick, as i need to head home for the day
01:22.02ajuonlinelh: i can haz swag? :P
01:22.15matthewwilkes_anothy_x: We had a fun one where a student went AWOL, he reappeared after I sent his former employer (a plone consulting company) an email from the Plone Foundation asking if they knew if he was ok, as we were very worried
01:22.40subzerolh:yep, thanks
01:22.41matthewwilkes_they phoned him first thing the next day, and he was on IRC when I woke up :)
01:23.19lhajuonline: of course
01:23.22summatusmentisajuonline: sshhh, you don't ask
01:23.36summatusmentisit's rude
01:23.49summatusmentiscome now
01:24.09ajuonlinesummatusmentis: :P what did I tell you about you earlier? :P
01:24.19lhsummatusmentis: you can also have swag.
01:24.43summatusmentisajuonline: I do not recall, do remind me?
01:24.57ajuonlinesummatusmentis: like no :P i dont wanna be rude. i am in a nice mood
01:25.07ajuonlineis talking to someone <3 <3
01:25.27summatusmentislh: I mean, if you're sending, I'm not gonna send it back, but you don't need to send me any
01:25.33summatusmentisajuonline: ooh? girl?
01:25.37summatusmentisguy?
01:25.43ajuonlinesummatusmentis: i am straight
01:25.50summatusmentisgirl then :)
01:25.59ajuonlinesummatusmentis: altho I do like robbyoconnor
01:26.05lhsummatusmentis: i thought ajay was talking about his gsoc shirt. he passed. he gets shirt.
01:26.24matthewwilkes_hmm, lh, as official announcement of results is tomorrow, should anonymous users be able to tell if a project is passed or not?
01:26.42summatusmentislh: oh, this is all true
01:26.50summatusmentisI misunderstood
01:27.19summatusmentisajuonline: being straight doesnt mean you automatically dislike those who are not :) I like r00by too
01:27.31ajuonlinesummatusmentis: not in *that* way :P
01:27.42lhmatthewwilkes_: once the surveys are closed then users who did not pass should be pulled from the website. but, do me a favor please and email the melange list to a) confirm and to b) light a fire under butt to make sure this does happen when needed
01:27.48summatusmentisajuonline: no, I know
01:27.49lhajuonline: good luck my dear
01:27.56matthewwilkes_lh: They already are pulled
01:27.58ajuonlinelh: oh thank you :)
01:28.05lhmatthewwilkes_: oh hallelujah.
01:28.10matthewwilkes_= not on the org homepage
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01:28.22lhmatthewwilkes_: right. then i realize now i have no idea what your question is.
01:28.26lhhelp?
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01:28.55makmanalpsummatusmentis: hey
01:28.56matthewwilkes_lh: I was asking if, as the "official" results aren't out yet that should have happened?
01:29.07summatusmentismakmanalp: ohi
01:29.14matthewwilkes_lh: i.e., shouldn't the failing students still be visible until tomorrow?
01:29.17makmanalpsummatusmentis: how goes it?
01:29.42summatusmentismakmanalp: well enough, I'm not feeling so hot about  school starting tomorrow
01:29.54makmanalpsummatusmentis: thursday for us
01:30.00makmanalpme neither
01:30.05summatusmentis:-/
01:30.21lhmatthewwilkes_: ah, now i get it. no, that is because i needed time to get official announcement text approved by PR. and then we like to make our own big thingy first. that's all. :)
01:30.35lhand it also gives me a chance to nag everyone to send me status reports for the open source blog
01:30.46lhrubs fingers together in joy over her clever plan
01:31.59summatusmentisI need to make more clever plans
01:32.08ajuonlinegod i am hungry
01:32.23ajuonlinemommie says, its still some time until i get breakfast. i woke up too early
01:32.55lhajuonline: ajay, get a snack. you are creeping me out with this whole mommie makes me breakfast thing. not to be a jerk but.....
01:32.59matthewwilkes_lh: Can't you get Lennie to build the google PR approval system into melange?
01:33.01lhyay clever plans
01:33.10ajuonlinelh: i am home! at parents palce. i cant help it :P
01:33.24ajuonlinelh: we live this way. :D
01:33.37lhmatthewwilkes_: no way in hell i would ask. that boy gets more sh*t done for gsoc than i care to think about lest i explode in a ball of guilt
01:33.39lhajuonline: snack!
01:33.49lhok my dear, night night, sleep well, see you in the AM.
01:33.51lhwell my AM
01:33.55ajuonlinenighty!
01:34.18summatusmentis'night lhh
01:34.27summatusmentisstupid eee keyboard
01:34.39ajuonlinesummatusmentis: this guy coming over, has an eeepc
01:35.02summatusmentisI'm not used to this keyboard
01:35.33matthewwilkes_oh yeah, bed, I knew I was doing something!
01:35.40matthewwilkes_damn distracting irc
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02:12.39Inclh: ping!
02:12.49Inclh: what's the status on our paperwork to file for compensation?
02:13.08Inchaoyu: for the mentoring agency, and also the students where's the paperwork for the financial side of things....
02:24.58summatusmentisInc: she's out for the evening (lh)
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04:31.50Incsummatusmentis: thanks
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04:39.05subzero!next
04:39.06socinfo"next" is Final evaluations extended, now due 05:00 UTC August 26th, students get to start uploading their code on September 3rd
04:43.57robbyoconnorjeuss
04:44.54Landonyessssssss?
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05:01.12robbyoconnorLandon, I need a new car, some money (>$2005) and uhm uhh
05:01.22robbyoconnorone of those things called a degree, but all that work is a PITA
05:01.36Landonok, get me a kilt and I'll get to work
05:01.54robbyoconnorI would never
05:01.59robbyoconnorkilts are ugly :)
05:02.04scorcheuh oh
05:02.07scorcheducks
05:03.40LandonJEUSS DOES NOT THINK YOU NEED ANY OF THESE THINGS ANYMORE
05:03.43LandonJEUSS SMASH
05:04.00scorchewonders if he can come out yet
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05:33.10robbyoconnorhugs Landon
05:33.19robbyoconnorI love you man
05:33.29robbyoconnorI love everybody
05:33.34robbyoconnorexcuse me coffee beckons
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06:01.47robbyoconnorjust be glad that wasn't something more embrassing :)
06:02.04subzeroright :)
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06:52.27monsieurp!next
06:52.27socinfo"next" is Final evaluations extended, now due 05:00 UTC August 26th, students get to start uploading their code on September 3rd
06:52.47robbyoconnorcan't people just like pay attention to the god damn time line?
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07:41.29MaNI2sigh, when will people learn not to blindly allow things liked linkedin access to their address books :/
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10:56.26thebolthey kblin
10:58.44Ivanovickblin: uhm, is the deadline not over anyway?
10:58.55kblinhey thebolt
10:59.03theboltthinks kblin is counting something else..
10:59.05kblinIvanovic: that's exams, not evals
10:59.13Ivanovicahhh, okay
11:00.39kblinfour exams separating me from my degree
11:00.55theboltheh
11:01.01Ivanovicfor me it is still two exams plus my thesis
11:01.10Ivanovic(that is already the case for ~4 months)
11:01.12thebolti have one or two exams and also thesis..
11:01.34kblinno, got the thesis covered already
11:01.34theboltone year left.. today first day of this semester ;) (lecture in 2 hours)
11:01.43Ivanovic(the exams are "efficent algorithms" (theoretical CS) and theoretical physics)
11:01.56kblinand I'm already overtime, according to what the minister of education thinks
11:02.24Ivanovicregarding what the minister thinks i am well above time, too
11:02.42thebolti am not
11:02.57robbyoconnorkblin, what country?
11:03.01theboltactually i'm ahead of whats supposed to
11:03.11Ivanovicthe minister thinks that 9 works, i am now about to start my 11th
11:03.17kblinof course, to quote edith piaff, je ne regrète rien. had a good time learning useful stuff
11:03.24Ivanovic(okay, the average is something like 14 or 15)
11:03.24kblinrobbyoconnor: germany
11:03.38robbyoconnorah
11:03.38thebolt(280 ECTS credits in 4 years)
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11:03.51thebolt9th semester just beginning, should be able to finish in this year
11:04.03kblinIvanovic: same here, 9 semesters planned, 13-14 semester average, will get done in 13
11:04.27Ivanovicnot sure how long i need to write my thesis and when i will have my physics exam
11:04.29thebolthere it is 10 semesters nominally (for a msc), i guess most go over a semester or two
11:04.32kblinI don't have dates for the last exams yet, but the last one is in mid-december
11:04.42theboltbut you don't get grant & loan for more than 12 semester
11:04.52Ivanoviceither i manage to get things done in this 11th semester or i touch the 12th, but not more than two months or something like this
11:05.00robbyoconnorkblin, masters?
11:05.04kblinsure
11:05.09robbyoconnorPh.D.?
11:05.10kblinwell, Diplom
11:05.12robbyoconnorwhich degree :)
11:05.33Ivanovicrobbyoconnor: what kblin and i study is basically equivalent to a m.sc
11:05.55kblinyeah, just that there's no intermediate B.Sc. degree involved
11:06.03Ivanovicjupp
11:06.08theboltsame here
11:06.10robbyoconnorwhy...?
11:06.22robbyoconnorI'd prefer to have a B.Sc. in place
11:06.30kblinbut given that a computational biology bachelor is worthless, I don't mind
11:06.33robbyoconnorif i dont finish I at least have that...
11:06.36Ivanovicrobbyoconnor: because in germany it was *normal* that everyone did the master equivalent
11:06.46robbyoconnorwtf
11:06.49Ivanovicwith the bachelor they wanted to save money (and stop with the really good education)
11:06.50thebolti do what is in swedish called "civilingenjör" (civil engineering directly translated), but i get both that and the new Bolognia-master
11:07.03theboltsame in Sweden
11:07.23theboltor well, in some areas you has bachelor earlier as well
11:07.57theboltbut very uncommon for people in engineering or science to get a bachelor
11:08.37kblinyeah, we had "Baccalaureus" and "Magister" in some of the soft sciences, whatever they're called in english
11:09.02kblinthe stuff that doesn't grow, stink or explodes...
11:09.09thebolt:)
11:09.40Ivanovickblin: in normal CS stuff does not tend too grow too much
11:09.49Ivanovic;)
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11:09.55theboltIvanovic: no, but it stinks :P
11:10.07Ivanovicthough ram usage tends to grow over time...
11:10.08Ivanovic;)
11:10.31robbyoconnorI have about 5 courses standing in the way of me getting my Associates
11:10.40robbyoconnorall heavy duty :(
11:10.54Ivanovicmy two open exams are those two that suck most
11:11.05Ivanovicpure theory, lovely amounts of proofs
11:11.08thebolt:)
11:11.10robbyoconnorPhysics, Linear Algebra, Stats, and well one is easy: US History
11:11.29kblinUS history? what is it you're studying again?
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11:11.39theboltrobbyoconnor: linear algebra and stats is a piece of cake
11:11.40robbyoconnorkblin, required Gen. Ed.
11:11.46robbyoconnorthebolt, hrm
11:12.00robbyoconnori struggle like a mad man in math crap
11:12.09robbyoconnorI took discrete last semester
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11:12.14theboltlinalg. is first year stuff on my program, stats second
11:12.17kblinrobbyoconnor: ah, great.. at least I got to do something useful for that.. I had two law lectures and one "history of computer science" seminar
11:12.39theboltthis semester i only have pretty practical courses
11:12.43robbyoconnorI stone-walled on proofs
11:12.57robbyoconnoronce I got to points where I needed algebraic manipulation
11:13.04robbyoconnor:(
11:13.14robbyoconnorI got a B
11:14.23theboltdsp construction, (weird) computer architecture, computer system on a chip and then a big project course in system engineering
11:14.25kblinrobbyoconnor: dunno, I didn't do lots of involved maths recently, but the stuff I remember usually worked more or less the same, there's a couple of hammers you can use, and you try all of them until the solution looks like a nail
11:14.50Ivanovicthebolt: this sounds really like fun
11:15.02robbyoconnorkblin, I just suck at it
11:15.06theboltIvanovic: i hope so
11:15.15robbyoconnorall I can say is: if you're doing algebra and need calculus
11:15.22robbyoconnorfucking make sure you know your shit
11:15.30robbyoconnorbecause if you don't calculus is fucking HELL
11:15.51robbyoconnors/fucking//
11:16.10theboltIvanovic: technically computer architecture is a 7th semester course.. and shouldn't be that much new, but it is required ..
11:16.15theboltrobbyoconnor: calculus is fun:)
11:16.26robbyoconnornot when you fail at basic algebra it isn't :P
11:16.47Ivanovicthebolt: dsp and soc stuff sounds interesting
11:16.47robbyoconnorI seriously wonder how i got by
11:16.59kblinah, I'm a practical scientist.. all famous computational biology algorithms where invented by two people, so I just need to pick someone who likes maths and keep him in check so something useful comes out of it :)
11:18.41theboltIvanovic: thats why i take them ;)
11:18.51theboltkblin: :)
11:19.06robbyoconnorkblin, that sounds kinda creepy
11:19.23robbyoconnorkinda like you keep him locked in the basement
11:19.39robbyoconnorlike what they did before hard drives
11:19.51robbyoconnorI mean i heard
11:21.20Ivanovictime for breakfast, cu
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11:22.18kblinlazy students!
11:22.47kblinget a job, you hippies! ;)
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11:23.26kblinwhich reminds me.. is there any way to do floating point maths in bash?
11:24.41cygalwould use bc(1)
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11:25.35kblinhm, possibly
11:29.57robbyoconnorkblin, I had a job :)
11:30.00robbyoconnorit ended Aug 17 :)
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15:22.05kblinheyas Lennie
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15:22.23Lenniehi kblin
15:22.30Lennierestart brb
15:24.25thebolthi all
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15:24.49Lennie:)
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15:28.36thebolthi Lennie
15:28.48Lenniehi thebolt
15:30.36Ivanovichi Lennie
15:30.42Lenniehi Ivanovic
15:30.46Ivanovicso how have you managed to restart yourself?
15:30.47Ivanovic;)
15:30.48Lennie(Do I have to write a bot for this :P)
15:30.59Lenniehehe
15:31.00Lennieyeah
15:31.02Lenniehot shower :)
15:31.16Ivanovichmm, i thought cold showers were better for this...
15:31.17Ivanovic;)
15:31.37Ivanovicas in "setting everything to zero" and the likes...
15:31.39Ivanovic;)
15:31.50Lennienah
15:31.57Lenniesometimes hot showers do wonders :)
15:32.14Lennieno need for a cold reboot :)
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15:35.55Ivanovic:)
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15:36.01robbyoconnorwatches sparks fly
15:36.04LennieIce water robby!
15:36.16robbyoconnorwhat
15:36.23robbyoconnoryou think i'd put boiling water on you
15:36.24Lennieactually you've turned the keyboard of my Mac red :P
15:36.34robbyoconnorheh
15:37.16kblinyou've got a mac?
15:37.34Lennieyes take it easy on me kblin  :P
15:37.48LennieIt's the first time in my life I'm without Windows :P
15:38.13kblinyou really should move out of your parent's basement
15:38.28kblinthat largely improved the size and quality of my windows
15:38.37Lennie:D
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15:38.58Ivanovic:)
15:39.02thebolti had really big windows living in my parents basement (yep, i ahd the only bedroom in basement)
15:39.13Catfish_Mankblin: Mac users live exclusively in coffee shop/art galleries in the Mission in San Francisco. Get your stereotypes right ;)
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15:39.59theboltbut well, it was above earth one ned of house (where my room was) and below in other end ;)
15:40.20theboltCatfish_Man: :)
15:40.25kblinCatfish_Man: that's macbook users
15:40.39theboltCatfish_Man: i have been there without a mac.. does that make me an outcast? ;)
15:41.11kblinCatfish_Man: I know an awful lot of mac users at university, with their obscenely huge and expensive flatscreens, but that's nowhere near a coffee shop
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15:41.31Catfish_Manthebolt: actually I was thinking of one particular one I went to about a month ago, although there weren't any computers at all there
15:41.41Catfish_Manjust an *enormous* crowd, *tiny* cups of coffee, and weird art
15:41.45thebolthaha
15:41.58thebolti'd love to be a macbook (pro) user.. if i had the money
15:42.06thebolthave to make do with my asus monster and hp mini for now
15:42.19kblinif I had the money, I'd get a thinkpad and go on vacation
15:42.30thebolthm, thinkpads are pretty nice as well, yea
15:42.40Lennieit was either the mac or a thinkpad for me :P
15:43.00kblinyou clearly have too much money or too much appreciation for shiny things then
15:43.13Lennieactually the situation is more complicated
15:43.14theboltfunny is, independently of if you choose apple, dell or acer it will be made in the same factory, by the same company (Quanta Computers ;)
15:43.42Chainsawbuys Fujitsu-Siemens, which is actually made in Germany, by Fujitsu
15:43.42Lenniehehe
15:43.48thebolt(and the assembly is made by the same people)
15:44.04theboltChainsaw: i would be surprised if 95% of the components are not made in China though ;)
15:44.14theboltLennie: they make ~35% of all laptops sold worldwide ;)
15:44.16Catfish_Mangenerally avoids buying gadgets entirely
15:44.26Catfish_Mangot my laptop and my phone, and that's about it
15:44.28kblinwhistles
15:44.31Catfish_Manand they'll last a while
15:44.32Chainsawthebolt: Quite possible. It's mostly QA that I'm worried about, and final assembly is a good time for that. So to me, that's a plus.
15:45.04theboltdid an interview with their VP for the business unit responsible for Acer this spring.. her unit push out ~8% of all laptops in the world, was interesting to talk to
15:45.43kblinI've got two ARM-based 3" computers, will be adding a third to that collection soon
15:45.53kblinbut at leaast they're nice and quiet
15:46.33kblinand maybe I'll get around to get my gf to build a robot I can control with one of the boards :)
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15:46.51WinterMute3" computers?
15:46.59kblinyeah
15:47.00Catfish_Mankblin: I've been meaning to check out what's available for cheap and try to rig my washing machine to send a notification to my phone instead of a horrible buzzer
15:47.24brlcadoh, that'd be awesome
15:47.36luciani've bought an original xbox for £6, i'll get linux on it asap :)
15:49.05thebolti need to get myself an FPGA board.. should be able to squeeze in a couple of microblaze CPUs on the same chip there ;)
15:49.41alanp_xbox for $6? good deal
15:49.43kblinlucian: what kind of hardware were those again?
15:49.51lucianwell, it was £10 shipping, but still
15:49.56alanp_can an xbox support BluRay playback?  I just bought a HTPC for this purpose, maybe could have saved money
15:50.01luciankblin: intel celeron 733mhz, 64mb ram
15:50.07kblinah
15:50.12lucianalanp_: it barely supports dvd playback, man :)
15:50.21lucianalanp_: you want a ps3 for that
15:50.24alanp_no no
15:50.28alanp_I mean xbmx + blu ray rip
15:50.31alanp_xbmc
15:50.40lucianalanp_: hmm, it may work. haven't tried
15:50.44alanp_not sure if the specs are good enough to play those
15:50.53kblinbit short on the ram side
15:50.53alanp_i spent fricking $250CAD to buy a HTPC
15:51.01lucianit chokes on 1080p h.264
15:51.11alanp_how bad does it choke? hehe
15:51.13kblinat least for what I'm using my beagle for
15:51.33lucianalanp_: with re-encoding, it can play it alright
15:51.47lucianalanp_: you don't have to downscale it, just encode it with different settings
15:51.50alanp_meh
15:51.53alanp_sounds like a pain in the ass
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15:52.49lucianalanp_: i don't give a flying #### for bluray or hd, so i'm safe :)
15:53.17alanp_does :)
15:53.40lucianalanp_: my tv set cost £15 :)
15:53.55kblinwow, I didn't think a VM would be that slow
15:54.00kblinI need a spare hdd
15:54.12alanp_lucian: hehe
15:54.13luciankblin: horrible I/O, i know
15:54.21alanp_i have a pretty good tv, bought it about a year ago
15:54.30alanp_makes a nice monitor
15:54.47kblinwell, I'm just timing kinit/kdestroy against a win2k3 AD DC
15:55.44thebolti don't have any TV.. won't get any either
15:55.53alanp_no tv = no football
15:55.56alanp_no football = no happiness
15:55.58alanp_:P
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15:57.14kblinis that football or that silly thing with people carrying around an oval pumpkin?
15:57.50alanp_american-style football =D
15:58.00alanp_although i'm a soccer fan as well
15:58.13lucianalanp_: you mean cheap-rugby-knockup-with-a-horrible-name ?
15:58.21alanp_yeah, that...
15:58.44alanp_you know, one of the most popular sports in the world
15:58.44lucianalanp_: i never understood why they named it football
15:58.45lucianalanp_: (just joking, mate)
15:58.53alanp_:P
15:58.58alanp_i don't get the name either
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15:59.12lucianalanp_: and i also don't get why the proper football is called soccer over there
15:59.23kblinlucian: it's not as if rugby wasn't a silly enough game to start with
15:59.32luciankblin: true
15:59.33kbliner, name
15:59.38alanp_i don't get that either...
16:00.06luciankblin: rugby is evolved from rugger afaik, which has a more obvious name
16:00.19kblinalanp_: but wait.. didn't you say you were canadian? aren't you supposed to like hockey?
16:00.31alanp_yeah, i'm canadian -- i don't really remember saying it? :P
16:00.40alanp_oh, canadian dollars, right
16:00.52alanp_I live 5 minutes from the USA (Detroit)
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16:01.28kblinah, sports preferences spread by osmosis
16:01.35kblinintersting theory
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16:01.45kblingoes to write a paper about this
16:02.37luciankblin: it's even more interesting why i have little preference in proper football, after living only in countries that love it
16:02.37luciankblin: little preference in watching it i mean, playing i like
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16:02.52lucianbut i'd be hard pressed to name any football player or team that did anything interesting
16:03.11WinterMutethat's cos there aren't any :p
16:03.18luciankblin: perhaps my experiene will help with your paper
16:03.40lucianWinterMute: hold it wise guy, i meant anything interesting in the context of football
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16:08.37kblinhttp://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1199
16:08.40kblinhehe
16:09.59robbyoconnortaps his foot for the gsoc results :)
16:10.29robbyoconnorI would *SO* go to the debconf... but i can't bring my laptop :X
16:11.37kblinthen don't bring one?
16:11.43Landonadddddict
16:12.03robbyoconnorhttp://dilbert.com/dyn_file/str_strip/65675/gif/strip.print/
16:12.07robbyoconnorIm n ot an addict
16:12.13robbyoconnorI can quit any time!
16:12.25robbyoconnorI swear
16:12.54Landongrrr
16:13.01Landonfor some reason firefox on the library  computers is ungodly slow
16:13.02Landon:(
16:13.07Landonand I need to print stuff off before class
16:13.21Landonand apparently my deodorant just kicked in because I got a hammer to the face of old spice
16:14.26alanp_rofl
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17:57.27hypa7ialh: got time for a pm?
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18:00.59sandsmarkso, anyone having trouble with not being able to buy stuff with the Citi card, because of not being able to change the address registered with your card to your real address, and the online store checking where your IP comes from? :(
18:01.31sandsmarkhmm, maybe I can fix this with the web developer extension too
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18:05.28lhhypa7ia: definitely, go for it
18:05.35hypa7iawoot!
18:05.58k0p_!next
18:05.58socinfo"next" is Final evaluations extended, now due 05:00 UTC August 26th, students get to start uploading their code on September 3rd
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18:10.18sandsmarkgah, I finally manage to edit the HTML to my liking, and then I get: Our site is currently unavailable. Please check back later.
18:10.45ChainsawYes, I hate errors like that.
18:10.50Chainsawis looking at (delivery temporarily suspended: host mx3.correodeempresas.telefonica.es[212.170.236.90] refused to talk to me: 421 sceent01.correodeempresas.inf Service not available - too busy)
18:11.04sandsmarkoverloaded mailservers ftw
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19:27.13mordantekblin, how did gsoc go for wombat?
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19:50.18*** topic/#gsoc by lh -> Official Annoucement of Results: 85%+ final success rate, best out of all five years! http://tinyurl.com/gsoc09victory - Shirts are on their way, see posts on mentor & student lists - Find the Mentor <-> Student maps for each org here http://tinyurl.com/org-list - Feel the Love - If you want to send love, send chocolate and mint tea - This channel is logged (!logs)
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20:00.19brlcadyou taught a wombat how to code?  awesome.
20:03.24schumamllet it walk over the keyboard -> perfectly valid perl
20:06.33mordanteis there a way to generate invalid perl code? ;-)
20:07.20thiago_homeyou have to try hard
20:07.27thiago_homeor you write "use strict"
20:07.52mordante:-)
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20:12.41kblinmordante: ok, we'll have a working upload/commit mechanism soon
20:12.53kblinmordante: as soon as my student pushes his code upstream
20:13.02kblinI need to do a final code review
20:13.35kblinand I need to switch the VCS backend to pysvn instead of my manual subprocess.Popen() handler
20:14.01kblinit seems like that blows up in a threaded environment
20:15.36kblinbut after that, I think we can start using wombat at worldforge
20:16.08kblinman, I already see that O'Reilly book.. "Using Wombat"
20:16.11kblin:)
20:17.09mordantecool to hear gsoc worked out nicely
20:17.18mordanteI look forward to the book ;-)
20:18.22mordanteguess I'll ask you again soon to see how it works for worldforge
20:18.33mordantestill think it would be nice for Wesnoth as well
20:18.37schumamldoes worldforge get many "implement $WoW feature" requests? ;)
20:19.30kblinno, we get more like "how do I program WoW with WorldForge, and by program I mean click"
20:19.42robbyoconnorHAI HAI HAI
20:20.36mordanteand I assume they want to "program" it in one evening as well
20:20.52kblinyeah, and have the media ready as well
20:21.04kblinand also have it be totally unique and cool
20:21.36theboltevening
20:21.46kblinmordante: our demo box seems to be down, and I currently don't have hardware capable of running my dev-demo server, I'll work on getting something useful up somewhere after I get back from vacation in october
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20:23.17mordantekblin, ok, thanks for the info
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20:26.19kblinmordante: no problem, I'd be happy if Wombat could be useful for other people as well
20:27.25llnzThousand Parsec will probably use it at some point too
20:27.39mordantekblin, it looked really interesting at the mentor summit last year
20:28.19kblinyeah, unfortunately it didn't move too far, I had a thesis to finish and a bunch of exams still coming up
20:28.41kblinbut we do have tag-based browsing, we have a GSoC branch with uploads/moderation
20:28.57kblinand I've got a plan for limiting page load times for huge directories
20:29.24robbyoconnorI should buy a police scanner lol
20:29.38kblinso once that's done, we need to start using it to figure out what's missing
20:29.53robbyoconnormakes it possible to execute my plan for bank robberies :)
20:29.55robbyoconnor:D
20:30.14kblinI'm using launchpad's bugtracker and blueprints feature extensively
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21:05.55theboltkoryk: i'd love some, thanky ou :)
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21:22.55lhKillerX: ping
21:23.45lhdberkholz: ping
21:23.47kblinhey lh
21:23.50Ivanovichi lh
21:23.59mordantehi lh
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21:24.22lhkblin: hello dear
21:24.25lhIvanovic: and to you too dear
21:24.28lhmordante: and to you too dear
21:24.31Ivanovichugs lh
21:24.38Michelangelolh: to me?:)
21:24.45thebolthi lh :P
21:24.49kblinlh: so, I know you explained that last year, but I've been shoving too much stuff into my brain to remember, what should a wrapup report from an org be like?
21:24.56theboltdoes not want to be worse than others ;)
21:25.33lhMichelangelo: and to you
21:25.42lhthebolt: hail! :)
21:26.08lhkblin: it should be delivered wrapped in bacon, with some chocolates and berries on the side
21:26.10lhno wait
21:26.18lcukmmmmm bacon
21:26.27kblinlh: can do
21:26.32thebolti think it would be cool if kblin delivered a on-paper report like that :)
21:26.32lhactually, i made bacon wrapped strawberries and blackberries the other day, they were delicious
21:26.46lhkblin: summary of successes, failures, let me find a good sample from last year
21:26.53theboltvery few things are not delicious in bacon wrapping ;)
21:26.59lhi love bacon.
21:27.01lhlots.
21:27.23kblinI feel like writing one for WorldForge, and maybe poke someone else for Samba and Wine :)
21:27.46kblinand yes, I'm trying to avoid working on something else :)
21:28.23lhkblin: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/11/nmaps-fourth-gsoc-success-stories-and.html
21:28.26lhso this one is awesome because
21:28.33lhit was the first search result returned
21:28.34lhbut also
21:28.39lhhas screen shots
21:28.57lhhas references to other write ups from past years
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21:30.06KillerXlh: pong
21:30.09lhplus fyodor is just awesome, as are you
21:30.13lhKillerX: one sec please
21:30.15lhhow are you anant?
21:30.26lhkblin: that help?
21:30.51KillerXI am doing great lh! Hope you are as well :-)
21:30.58lhKillerX: i am very very well thank you dear. :)
21:31.04lhKillerX: so any chance eitan is online atm?
21:31.18KillerXchecks
21:31.20lhit is worth asking, i can email but would love real time response
21:31.24lhKillerX: tyvm
21:31.39KillerXNope, doesn't seem to be
21:31.55kblinlh: sure, golden :)
21:31.59KillerXIf it is really urgent though, I think we do have his phone number
21:32.05theboltwonders what have happened to him.. paying alot of extra money getting something, where the extra money is due to looks/style rather than superior functionality.. very unlike him
21:32.37theboltsure i have paid premium before for good stuff.. but for nice-looking stuff?..
21:32.50kblinbeing in taiwan softened you up?
21:33.11lhKillerX: nah not urgent
21:33.15kblinor made you suspectible to the "OMG SHINY!" reflex
21:33.26KillerXlh: ok then, email would be your best bet :)
21:34.05lhkblin: if you were feeling very nice to me you could send that summary to the mailing list. :)
21:34.08lhKillerX: you got it
21:34.19kblinlh: aye, aye
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21:35.45deekaylh: I know that deadlie for filling the name that is supposed to be printed at ours certificates was set up for 17th, but I made a mistake and noticed it at 22th.. since both 17th and 22th were before final evals, then by any chance was the datta from melange pulled after final evals were finished? Or I should expect certificate with a wrong name on it?
21:36.11mariusbhello everybody! is there anyone here who received the 2nd half of the money but not the first (because of the documents sent befo
21:36.32mariusb*after 10 july?
21:36.54lhdeekay: i honestly dont think ellen has started on the certificates yet. do you want to email her?
21:37.51deekaylh: Hm, I think I should probably
21:37.57lhdeekay: woot.
21:37.59lhkblin: danke!
21:38.11kblinlh: my pleasure
21:38.33kblinwonders if the t-shirt will arrive before the vacation trip
21:38.39lhKillerX: can you be a dear and PM eitan
21:38.48lhs/eitan/eitan's email addy so i dont have to look it up?
21:38.53lhkblin: when do you leave?
21:39.00Ivanovickblin: when is your vacation trip?
21:39.03kblinsept 21st
21:39.08Ivanovicand how were the shirts sent, default air mail?
21:39.18kblinI'm not too worried
21:39.49kblinI just realized that I could have simply picked it up in person when I'm in Santa Clara anyway
21:39.55Ivanovic:)
21:40.10theboltkblin: something like that.. prolly
21:40.51deekaylh: It should be : "I think I should not." My writing gets messy when I'm sick :(  Well, it was my mistake that I mistook the field on a melange form, so I'm just asking when do you plan on pulling the data from the melange, to know wheter my change at 22th will be taken into account
21:41.01kblinalso, the delivery companies tend to leave packages at the doctor's downstairs
21:41.37kblindeekay: just email ellen. she's a big girl, she can handle :)
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21:41.54deekaykblin: ok, thanks :)
21:41.57kblinat least it won't hurt anybody
21:42.33theboltkblin: also in this case it is not a piece of electronics or gadget.. which.. disturbs me :P
21:42.50kblinhehe
21:42.57kblindoes diving gear count?
21:43.02theboltthat is gadget
21:43.12kblinyeah. that's what I meant :)
21:43.15theboltthere i never paid extra for looks.. it is expensive enough as is :P
21:43.22kblinright
21:43.35kblinbut lots of people pay extra to get it in black these days
21:43.40thebolt(2500 euros equipment so far this year.. and another 4k for courses & dive travel :P)
21:43.53theboltmine is almost all black anyhow.. except my new tanks, all white :)
21:44.10kblinI don't even have tanks
21:44.12theboltheck, for some gear it is hard to find it in non-black
21:44.34theboltkblin: i have some i don't need.. wanna buy ?;)
21:44.35kblinI always fly to my dive locations anyway
21:44.41thebolthehe
21:44.44MathuinI would have thought "visibility" would trump "cool" for diving gear appearance.  I'd be afraid of getting lost or something.
21:44.50theboltMathuin: definitely
21:45.02theboltwhich is why i like my dry suit which is bright green and bright red on upper body
21:45.04theboltand white tanks
21:45.05kblinpeople are stupid everywgere
21:45.16kblinand I can't type :)
21:45.18thebolti'd love to have an orange/red wing and/or suit
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21:46.53kblinI've got a bright green mask and jacket, does that count?
21:47.05theboltwell, green is not that good up here at least
21:47.10theboltwater is pretty green most of the time ;)
21:47.16kblinI even got a discount on the jacket because it's not fashionable black
21:47.25thebolthehe
21:50.25theboltmost parts of my gear that you can actually get in specific colours i bought used
21:50.34theboltand then availablility was higher prio than colour
21:51.15kblinhehe, right
21:52.16theboltand rubber fins are only in black :/
21:52.34theboltotherwise coloured fins are pretty good way of seeing someone swimming a bit too far in front of you
21:52.50kblinbut that only applies to snorkling fins
21:52.56thebolthm?
21:53.09kblinat least most diving fins I've seen were pretty colorful
21:53.17thebolti said rubber fins
21:53.21theboltie jetfins
21:53.25kblinhm
21:53.26thebolt(and "real" copies)
21:54.13kblinah, right
21:54.19kblinmy dad has those
21:54.29theboltthey are great
21:54.29kblinthey're probably older than I am
21:54.41theboltvery hard to get hold of the real ones
21:54.44thebolt(so i use copies :P)
21:55.15kblinI have mares quadro fins, I like them
21:55.17kblinhttp://www.tek-diver-shop.de/images/product_images/popup_images/Mares_Quadro.JPG
21:55.28kblinin pretty much that color, as well
21:55.31theboltyep, have a pair of those as well
21:55.40theboltyellow
21:56.37theboltbut nowdays i only use my jetfin(copies).. they are heavier, stiffer, easier to swim backwards with (almost impossible with the quadros) and also better control when you are inside stuff (wrecks etc)
21:56.46lhdeekay: email her. that's what we pay her for.
21:56.55lhmakes tea for deekay since deekay is not well
21:57.05lh:)
21:57.18kblinhaven't used anything else for years... apart from this one dive where somebody put away my fins before I got to pack them, for my AOWD deep dive
21:57.25deekayThank you, lh. You're the best. :)
21:57.45Michelangeloneeds a chamomile :)
21:57.51kblinwhen I dived with a borrowed pair, and then found a single snorkling fin underwater
21:58.03lhdeekay: any time
21:58.05kblinso I had another dive with a single snorkling fin
21:58.08kblinthat was fun
21:58.13lhwhips up chamomile tea for Michelangelo
21:58.25theboltkblin: you should try the jetfins.. know people who disliked them, all the way until they dove them ;)
21:58.30Michelangelois gonna fell asleep :D:D
21:58.35lhMichelangelo: you should.
21:58.49Michelangelos/fall
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21:59.31MichelangeloI know lh... I've just cleanup a patch while waiting for some news... but I guess it's time for me to head to the bed
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22:05.38kblinanyway, SIGGF, night folks
22:06.23theboltsleep well
22:06.45LandonI'm afraid I don't quite have enough food available to keep from going to the grocery store while starving!
22:07.04MathuinDelivery to the rescue!
22:07.04Landoncan everyone email me a cracker real quick?
22:07.19MathuinMmmm.  Oregon Trail needed a pizza delivery option.
22:08.32Landonsure, but that's just the same as doing s/dysentery/diarrhea/ to the play logs
22:08.52LandonBY GODS THEY'RE THE SAME THING
22:08.59Landonretracts that statement
22:10.00MathuinPerhaps if anyone ever makes "Oregon Trail: The MMORPG" that can be a quest.
22:10.12Mathuin"Deliver this pizza to the Donner party... or else."
22:10.12Landonthe one time I neglect to look up big words before I say them and I'm wrong
22:10.29Landonthat would be a pretty sweet mmo
22:10.37Landonit's the perfect setup
22:11.02Landongrocery store time!
22:11.04theboltLandon: they are not the same thing..
22:11.08dmitrig01remembers playing that
22:11.10theboltLandon: dysentery cause diarrhea though ;)
22:11.16Landonthebolt: ok, but dysentery is marked by diarrhea
22:11.19Mathuinplease turn off images before searching the web on the topics, for your own sake.
22:11.23Landonso essentially doing the replacement would be similar
22:11.31LandonMathuin: define:word ftw
22:11.39theboltbut there are a bunch of other things causing diarrhea ;)
22:11.49thebolt(and some other problems caused by dysentery :P)
22:11.50Landonlike pizza hut?
22:11.52Landon:P
22:11.53dmitrig01lol
22:11.57MathuinDomino's!
22:14.05Landonneeds caffeine now
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22:20.31lhi look up and y'all are talking about diarrhea
22:20.36lhoh
22:20.39lhdominos
22:20.43lhno wonder
22:20.50lhgets back to pleading for content
22:21.00MathuinI still think Oregon Trail would make a kickass MMORPG.
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22:37.50lhMathuin: i just want to play oregon trail again
22:40.25Mathuinlh: this can be arranged.
22:41.25lhMathuin: this would be terrific.
22:44.05summatusmentisthere's a website with an apple II emulator that lets you play oregon trail from your browser
22:44.14summatusmentisiirc only works on windows though
22:44.20Catfish_Manironic
22:44.20MathuinAnd not no my vista box. :-(
22:44.43MathuinI'm going to see about other emulators, or maybe vmware.
22:44.47summatusmentisCatfish_Man: inorite?
22:44.52sandsmarkhow about that Java x86 emulator? run an apple II emulator in that, and then play oregon trail in that again :-P
22:45.08summatusmentisoh that's what it is, it requires IE
22:45.09sandsmark(the x86 emulator is available as an applet, iirc)
22:47.21summatusmentishttp://www.virtualapple.org/oregontraildisk.html is the site I'm talking about, might work
22:47.38summatusmentisI couldn't get it to work on FF 3, eeebuntu
22:53.12ajuonlinegot the $$$
22:55.59ajuonlinehugs lh and hands over chocolate and mint tea!
22:56.59summatusmentischocolate & mint tea?
22:57.13ajuonlinesummatusmentis: check /topic
22:57.19summatusmentiswouldn't that be a bit overbearing for a tea flavor?
22:58.00summatusmentisso I see, but still
22:58.10summatusmentisI feel like a chocolate & mint flavored tea would be odd
22:58.31MathuinMmm.  But mint chocolate chip ice cream is tasty.
22:58.58summatusmentisyes, but some children think cotton candy ice cream is tasty
22:59.05summatusmentisthat doesn't mean it would be a good tea flavor
22:59.06lhajuonline: woot! thank you. :)
22:59.14lhsummatusmentis: it is two items.
22:59.31summatusmentis;)
22:59.31lhMathuin: this is my favorite kind of ice cream.
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22:59.45summatusmentislh: two items.. that's no fun :-P
22:59.51Catfish_Mancotton candy ice cream is delicious
22:59.55Catfish_ManI get it with gummy bears
23:00.03summatusmentiscotton candy ice cream is not delicious
23:00.34summatusmentislh: here I was thinking you were some very adventurous tea drinker who only drank certain types of designer teas
23:00.57lhsummatusmentis: i grew chocolate mint once and brewed it into tea. truly nasty.
23:01.10summatusmentis:-D
23:01.14lhCatfish_Man: never had it. totally should try it.
23:01.37summatusmentislh: unless you have a wicked sweet tooth, cotton candy ce ream is almost oo much to handle
23:01.48summatusmentis(assuming you can get over the blue  color)
23:01.59Catfish_Mansummatusmentis: ah, but that's why the gummy bears
23:02.02Catfish_Manthey provide just enough contrast
23:02.36summatusmentishrm.... I have bad memories of cotton candy ice cream :(
23:07.34lhsummatusmentis: of course not. i also like low rent tea and brewing my own herbal teas.
23:07.48lhsummatusmentis: i am scared of the cotton candy ice cream.
23:07.53lhgummy bears otoh, i just adore.
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23:08.37summatusmentisto each their own I suppose
23:08.54summatusmentisgoes to make dinner
23:09.03ajuonlinesummatusmentis: send me some as well
23:09.22ajuonlinei am again up at this odd hour :-/ and is hungry
23:09.35summatusmentisajuonline: I'll have to see how well spaghetti ships internationally, but sure :)
23:10.17ajuonlineKillerX: hi!, how/where are you these days? :)
23:11.09KillerXhey ajuonline
23:11.18KillerXdoing good, working on exciting stuff :)
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23:15.19ajuonlinegreat! mozilla?
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23:36.48lhdberkholz: heya. if you are responding to earlier ping, it's taken care of - thanks tho.
23:36.52lhif not, how are you doctor? :)
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23:41.22jaguarandihey, i remember there was some page explaining how to register the card for checking balance on web
23:41.30jaguarandidoes anyone recalls the link for it?
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23:46.31jaguarandihttp://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list/web/tips-for-using-the-payment-card?pli=1 :)

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