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00:16.09dberkholzlh: i was responding, actually -- but i'm doing well, just on my way to a local tech beering.
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02:06.02codestasherlh : pm?
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05:18.39killerchicken_Hey, how do I learn my gsoc user id?
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06:06.44kblinkillerchicken_: it's your google account address you used to log into melange?
06:07.10killerchicken_oh.
06:08.17killerchicken_I'll take this as a sign that I need sleep. 8am is... late ;)
06:08.44killerchicken_so much gsoc code to merge
06:08.51kblinactually depends.. I just got up, so for me it's early.. however if you're still up, it's late indeed
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06:09.50t0mskblin: good morning :)
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06:23.34MaNIwow, the citi activity alert actually worked this time
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06:24.42Upthornyeah it's always worked for me
06:24.56Upthornalthough it usually emails me three times whenever I buy something
06:25.00Upthornwhich can get annoying
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07:00.28theboltMorning
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07:04.47kblinah, crap
07:04.59kblinI've got a flip-flop regression
07:05.38theboltuhm? :)
07:06.23kblinI've got a bug about an unimplemented feature in Wine, and I can get some apps to work by just pretending it works
07:06.45kblinhowever, this then breaks some other apps, which can be made to work by not loading the feature
07:07.14kblinwhich breaks some apps that are too stupid to check if the feature is available and simply assume everything will be fine
07:07.23MaNIthis calls for a giant switch statement based on the app name! (j/k)
07:07.25killerchicken_implement the feature? ;P
07:07.45kblinkillerchicken_: if it was that easy, I'd have done it already
07:08.07kblinbut yes, looks like I've got to bite the bullet and get working
07:08.29theboltkblin: ah, you need a feature enabled bit that is not boolean but a qubit ;)
07:08.45killerchicken_kblin: yeah, I figured.
07:18.03dmitrig01kblin: what feature is it?
07:25.11kblindmitrig01: support for the SPNEGO auth protocol in SSPI
07:25.29dmitrig01yep. makes perfect sense. uh-huh
07:26.03kblinprograms are not supposed to care what auth protocol they get as long as it has the features they asked for
07:26.05dmitrig01feels one unit stupider
07:26.30kblindmitrig01: he, never mind, you don't miss out much
07:26.38theboltkblin: modularization is so nice, uhu? :)
07:27.51kblinI'm actually considering to fix the bug in libneon I was trying to work around and switch back to the old behaviour
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07:28.27kblinthere's no reason libneon should break if the Negotiate provider is not loaded
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07:28.52kblinand yes, of course microsoft decided against calling that protocol by the name specified in the RFC
07:29.23thebolt:P
07:31.52theboltwell, i guess they interpret the name of RFC literally ;)
07:32.11thebolt(w.r.t. the C ;)
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07:59.45araujo:)
07:59.49araujolh, hi!
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09:52.14skbohrahello everybody
09:52.23skbohraI passed :)
09:52.49LennieGratz :)
09:52.56theboltnice :)
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10:03.39rkneufeldHello. I never received an email saying I passed this year - yet i'm still listed as accepted in melange, and my mentor says things should be all good. any ideas?
10:04.39kblinrkneufeld: check your spam folder?
10:04.50rkneufeldyeah I'm about to now, thanks
10:04.58kblingmail has been eating a couple of valid emails for me recently
10:05.04Lennierkneufeld: project name
10:05.04Lennie?
10:05.15rkneufeldI'm with Berkman Center
10:05.25rkneufeldCohort CRM project
10:06.02rkneufeldWas the email from leslie?
10:06.07Lennienope
10:06.16Lenniesocghop.noreply@gmail.com if at all
10:06.19rkneufeldk
10:06.23Lennieatleast something like that :)
10:06.28Lennienot sure if I remembered correctly
10:06.34kblinyeah
10:06.36Lenniehave you passed or failed?
10:06.39kblinjust checked my inbox
10:06.51kblinLennie: passed, I guess
10:07.32Lennierkneufeld: do you know your link_id so I can check?
10:07.38rkneufeldone moment
10:08.34rkneufeldlinkid == rkneufeld
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10:12.27Lenniek
10:12.29Lenniedo you have a few min :D
10:12.35LennieI'm being distracted
10:12.37rkneufeldLennie: yes
10:12.48Lenniethanks
10:15.36Lennieseems fine
10:15.41LennieI resend the mail :)
10:15.52rkneufeldThanks
10:15.59Lenniegratz
10:16.17skbohraLennie the great
10:16.24rkneufeldLennie: thanks (again :P)
10:16.31Lennieno problem rkneufeld
10:16.34LennieI had the time :)
10:16.59skbohrarkneufeld: send a gift to Lennie with your mentor :)
10:17.30rkneufeldhehe
10:18.07Lenniecool t-shirts are always welcome :)
10:18.49rkneufeldwe'll see if I have anything unworn :P
10:19.08rkneufeldyou wouldn't go around taking the shirts off of peoples backs would you?
10:19.25skbohrarkneufled: :-0
10:20.15kblinrkneufeld: get him a google t-shirt, I bet he always wanted one ;)
10:20.41Lenniekblin: I have those already :D
10:20.47LennieI have a Chicago Engineering one :D
10:21.01rkneufeldDo you work at Google Lennie?
10:21.17Lennierkneufeld: nope, I'm still a student myself
10:21.27rkneufeldahh
10:21.32theboltkblin: yea, i guess most of us really need another google t-shirt ;)
10:21.36Lenniebut I do work closely with the team behind GSoC since I work on the website a lot
10:21.53thebolti think at least 50% of all t-shirts i own have some kind of google marking on them ;)
10:21.59thebolt(google or gsoc stuff)
10:22.07Lenniethat's why I was able to resend you the email
10:22.08kblinthebolt: freak :)
10:22.12theboltis a walking ad-board :P
10:22.21rkneufeldI'm slowly replacing ever boring t-shirt I own with some kind of programming shirt
10:22.27kblinthebolt: for me this only applies if I count dark shirts
10:22.30skbohrathebolt: cool
10:22.45kblinI've got a microsoft shirt as well, though
10:22.47theboltkblin: well, they are great t-shirts.. a bit thicker than most others i see around here
10:22.52Lenniekblin: me too :P
10:22.56LennieXNA one :)
10:23.07theboltkblin: i only have darker ones, or no, i have a couple of white ones.. they are marked with the crystalspace logo :P
10:23.14kblinno, cifs/smb
10:23.15theboltah, and then i have a very nice bzflag one ;)
10:23.22kblinright, that as well
10:23.26skbohrathis gsoc tshirt would be mine first
10:23.29kblinwith a pole, I can use it as a tent as well
10:23.45theboltkblin: you also got one of the larger sizes? :;)
10:23.56kblin3XL or somesuch, yeah
10:24.14theboltmine is 2xl.. only thing that was left at that point last summit ;)
10:24.35Lenniehmm
10:24.42Lenniereminds him self to get a mentor summit t-shirt ^^
10:25.12thebolti think the second year "normal" gsoc t-shirt are among the cooler.. the bar-code one :)
10:25.31LennieThis years t-shirts look awesome as well :)
10:25.34rkneufeldyeah I appreciated my '08 one but i kinda didn't like the giant sun thing
10:25.41Lennieatleast the design I saw
10:26.11Lennieat least if you like bright colours :P
10:26.12theboltgood for you/those who get it :P
10:26.49kblinI liked the 2007 shirt
10:27.08kblinbut I seem to be one of the few who do
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10:27.32theboltyep, that year mentor summit tshirt was pretty cool as well with the big face on the back )
10:31.17araujoloves that tiki on the back
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10:32.23kblindon't know the mentor summit shirt
10:33.21theboltkblin: basically the same, but big red face on the back (and then it says mentor summit etc)
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10:38.27skbohra!logs
10:38.28socinfo"logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc
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11:27.54plastunhello
11:28.05plastuncan anybody help me with my citi card?
11:35.41MaNIwhat about it?
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12:28.10sandsmarkgah, damn citibank
12:28.41sandsmarkhas even tried going to the local citibank filial, but they only threw up their hands and claimed they didn't know anything about debit cards, and “good luck” :/
12:29.08Lennieseems like a bunch of fools :S
12:30.09sandsmarkyeah, the norwegian hand doesn't know what the body is doing :-P
12:30.40Lenniehehe
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13:20.40Ivanoviclh: who should sandsmark talk to about problems with the debit card?
13:21.02sandsmarkIvanovic: I should probably call the american CitiBank helpline
13:21.04Ivanovic"something" seems to not work for him (so far he has not written what)
13:21.51Ivanovicsandsmark: no idea
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13:23.23Ivanovicsandsmark: in general i'd expect it to work like any "normal" credit/debit card, too
13:23.35Ivanovicjust use it for shopping eg via amazon or whatever and that's it
13:23.47Ivanovic(or go an atm, type in your pin and get the money out)
13:23.52sandsmarkI haven't been able to find a norwegian ATM that takes it, though
13:23.58sandsmarkthey just spit it right out again
13:24.17Ivanovicwhat "company" is behind it?
13:24.24Ivanovicit is something like visa or mastercard?
13:24.36sandsmarkbehind what? the citibank card? visa
13:25.12Ivanovicin germany by now some atms don't accept visa anymore because of too many internet banks saying their customers "hey, you get a credit card and can use this to get money at the atms without any fee" where the "Normal" bank cards have a rather high fee
13:25.22Ivanovicso just check for an atm that does have the visa sticker
13:25.35sandsmarkyes, I have a normal Visa card too, and it works just fine
13:25.38Ivanovic(or go to the visa website, they should have some search functionality)
13:25.59sandsmarkI'm also able to use it in some web stores, those that don't check where I connect from and compare it to the billing address
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13:29.33Ivanoviclovely stuff
13:30.05Ivanovicwhat i'd assume: if it is some "general problem" it was probably posted on the student ml (i am not a student in soc, so i can't check it myself)
13:30.27Ivanovicif it is more esotheric either lh can help somehow or you really have to ask citibank america
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17:41.22theboltHigh activity in #gsoc atm :P
17:42.08ajuonlineoyeah :P
17:43.40theboltalmost so you cannot follow the discussions ;)
17:44.59ajuonlinelighting fast speed
17:45.11theboltso what are you all up to? ;)
17:45.21theboltslacking now that gsoc is over? :P
17:45.52ajuonlineoh no, its busier now
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17:46.02theboltheh, yea i see that you are busy at least :)
17:46.21ajuonlinegsoc was 2 parts of a module. now working on perfecting that, and adding more
17:46.27thebolt:)
17:46.35ajuonlinethebolt: its night here :P have been working all day
17:47.17killerchicken_night, day, pfff
17:47.23killerchicken_I don't let that sun thing over there rule my life
17:48.12theboltajuonline: well, i wasn't sarcastic..
17:48.33ajuonlinekillerchicken_: i have one of the mentors come over spending a week with me, since he is in India.. so he works normally :P
17:48.52ajuonlinethebolt: oh yea, so you know from #fb? PP
17:49.02ajuonlines/PP/:P
17:49.09theboltajuonline: yea, and apparently you don't know of /notice ;)
17:49.36ajuonlinethebolt: :P i do :) i see you online at times there ;)
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18:51.45MathuinSo I started using irssi due to suggestions made here.  Anyone know how to tell it to not tell me if people join or quit unless I ask for notifies?
18:51.55MathuinI am *buried* in joinquit spam.
18:56.14dwinsMathuin: /ignore * JOIN
18:56.23dwinsthe * is which channels to set the ignore rule for
18:57.31Mathuindwins: Thank you very much.
18:57.55dwinsactually, it might be users. that would make more sense as channels can't quit
18:58.18dwinsanyway, '/help ignore' is your friend on this one
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22:32.08kblinthe backup before a distro upgrade always is a nice reaso to clean up the homedir
22:33.00thiago_homethen you restore it from backup
22:33.00thebolt:)
22:33.32kblinno, I first clean up and then do the backup
22:33.44kblinsaves time to do the backup and disk space
22:33.55thebolt:)
22:34.12kblin~/tmp/ had a couple of 200+ meg log files from wine bugs I was tracing last year
22:34.17MathuinIf only moving worked that way...
22:34.29MathuinYou never have time to clean up and throw away as much as you'd like before you pack it up in boxes.
22:34.34thiago_homeuses TMPDIR=/tmp
22:34.36kblinthat's how I prepared moving last time
22:34.37thiago_homewith /tmp as a tmpfs
22:34.44theboltMathuin: heh.. i realized that wehn i unpacked my boxes
22:34.45thiago_homeno old files lying around
22:34.52theboltMathuin: did a clean up when unpacking as well
22:35.04Mathuinthiago_home: that works well but occasionally made me cry when I really *wanted* something to survive boots.
22:35.08kblinthiago_home: no, I needed them to stick around a while
22:35.12Mathuinthebolt: that's what I'm doing now...
22:35.13theboltMathuin: anything i felt "hm.. its been in a box for a year, have i missed it?".. if answer is no, then i threw it :P
22:35.21kblinright
22:35.29theboltor well, almost at least
22:35.40theboltsome books etc i haven't missed really.. but still kept them
22:35.41thiago_homethat's what /var/tmp is for
22:35.41Mathuinthebolt: an excellent first approximation, for sure.
22:35.51kblinthebolt: if you didn't unpack a box when you move again, you can usually just dump the whole box :)
22:36.08Mathuinwould miss the box of spare hard drives for his colo box then...
22:36.15kblinthiago_home: that's what I use ~/tmp for
22:36.19theboltkblin: well, i was abroad for a year you know ;)
22:36.33theboltkblin: didn't bring the 8 boxes of my stuff then.. was deposited at my parents place during that time
22:36.48kblinyeah, doesn't count
22:36.55thiago_homekblin: well, as long as TMPDIR is /tmp
22:37.11kblinyeah
22:37.12theboltkblin: yea, but i mean in general, if you realize you have stuff you haven't used inN time.. you should sell it/throw it away :P
22:37.33theboltin N*
22:37.46kblinnods
22:38.32kblinbasically, I'm looking forward to getting a file server
22:38.49kblinI'm currently zipping up a couple of files I seldom use
22:41.31kblinmy schrodinger dir is a tad big
22:41.33thebolt:)
22:41.36theboltbedtime
22:41.59kblinsame here, as soon as rzip is done
22:42.33kblinI'll sift through my 14 gig wf dir tomorrow
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