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01:34.33makmanalp!next
01:34.34socinfo"next" is September 3rd: Students can begin uploading their code
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03:01.38Incwhat dumbass puts a vacation reply on their email that's subscribed to a mailing list....
03:05.11Ryan52its actually quite common.
03:05.37Ryan52and usually against the rules of the mailing list.
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03:11.12ajuonlineWhy should FOSS projects engage with communities in local conferences?
03:16.59hypa7iaajuonline: why shouldn't they?
03:17.01hypa7ia:)
03:18.51ajuonlinehypa7ia: i know. i need to write a proposal
03:19.04ajuonlinewhich seems meaningless :)
03:19.14hypa7iaahh, i see
03:19.53ajuonlineso I was looking for reasons to justify, apart from some of the common ones
03:20.35summatusmentispsh, proposals. If they don't already get what you're trying to do, you don't want their money anyway >_>
03:22.56ajuonlinehmmph
03:23.35summatusmentisI mean, I kid, but still
03:23.56hypa7iaajuonline: it's a great way to recruit participants and users from populations you're not already reaching online
03:24.12hypa7iawhich leads to incresed diversity and robustness in both your community and your code
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03:26.24hypa7iahope that helps :)
03:26.33ajuonline:)
03:26.39summatusmentislots of buzz-happy talk
03:26.46summatusmentisthis is why I'm bad at writing proposals
03:27.02hypa7iasummatusmentis: i wasn't being buzzword compliant at all
03:27.06hypa7iai honestly believe that
03:27.22summatusmentisI do too, I'm not saying it's not true
03:27.29summatusmentisI'm just bad at happy words
03:27.33summatusmentisor, words in general
03:27.58ajuonlinesummatusmentis: i pity ur gf :P
03:28.19ajuonlineu make her sad all the time ;) ?
03:28.33hypa7iacomunikashun
03:28.40summatusmentisI'm not getting into this with you ajay :)
03:28.47ajuonlinehah :D
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03:30.46ojwbwell, it's cheaper to engage them at local conferences
03:30.59ojwbboth in airfares and time
03:31.11Landonhuh?
03:31.19Landonsummatusmentis is proposing to his gf and getting engaged?
03:31.31Landonnotes a quick skim can sometimes be VERY misleading
03:31.32summatusmentisno
03:31.36ojwb"<ajuonline> Why should FOSS projects engage with communities in local conferences?"
03:31.37summatusmentisabsolutely not, no
03:31.57hypa7iaLandon: lol
03:32.21ajuonlinebut its important to consider the RoI?
03:33.16ajuonlineisnt it, it could just be spreading the buzzword.. and no contributors
03:33.54ojwbspreading awareness is valuable in itself
03:36.09hypa7iaajuonline: how to maximize ROI and minimize TCO on your awesomeness, FTW
03:36.29summatusmentis:wq
03:36.33summatusmentiserr... sorry
03:36.41ajuonlinehypa7ia: point taken ;) thats true
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04:24.01summatusmentisrawr, I need to upgrade my ssd, and perhaps stop running 4+ programs at the same time on an atom cpu
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08:55.32skbohrawhen are the tshirts coming? ;)
09:04.00ojwbshould be any time now
09:04.34ojwbthough I think last year I finally got mine in January...
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09:13.41BarryCarlyonWOO!
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09:14.32aghislaw00t!
09:14.40skbohra>>>>>>>>>
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09:40.22omniterhey does anyone here know about the P=NP problem?
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09:45.17llmlomniter: they are not proved = or =\= yet
09:45.32omniteryes, i know.
09:45.42omniterbut basically
09:46.01omniterif you make an algorithm that solves any NP-complete problem in polynomial time, you've proven it, right?
09:47.33llmlomniter: i've learned about P, NP, NP-complete years ago. not familiar with them any more. sorry, i can't explain further:(
09:47.40omniterawww
09:47.40omniterokay
09:48.18llmlomniter: on my third year of undergranduate
09:48.48omniterwell in any case, does anyone know how to solve linear systems in code? preferrably an algorithm that gives multiple solutions.
09:48.53omniterllml, that's what i'm on now,
09:48.59omniterwell we haven't started third year yet
09:49.55omniteri've got an idea for solving the one-in-three 3SAT NP-complete problem, and so far it's working out on paper, but i would like to run a bunch of computer-aided runs to test it out.
09:50.28llmlomniter: hehe, awesome! great job
09:51.13omniterlol, a bit too early to be jumpin for joy, though. i'm staying up all night trying to find a good algorithm for solving linear systems.
09:52.02omniterand solving linear systems has polynomial time complexity, so it's perfect, until i find reason to believe otherwise of course =\
09:53.42llmli suggest you talking with your tutor about it. they may have some outstanding ideas!
09:54.55omnitermaybe i'll just wait a couple of days until school starts. then i can talk to my profs about it. :)
09:55.14llmlyeah! right
09:56.47llmland good luck, i'd like to look forward to omniter's improvement in this field in near future. besides i believe this field is a kind of hard:)
09:56.58llml:)
09:57.01omniterhehe, thanks

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