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| 03:33.00 | *** topic/#gsoc is Official Annoucement of Results: 85%+ final success rate, best out of all five years! http://tinyurl.com/gsoc09victory - Shirts are on their way, see posts on mentor & student lists - Find the Mentor <-> Student maps for each org here http://tinyurl.com/org-list - Feel the Love - If you want to send love, send chocolate and mint tea - This channel is logged (!logs) |
| 03:38.53 | Landon | !timeline |
| 03:38.54 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline, or (#2) if you prefer a pretty visual timeline see http://is.gd/141Tu |
| 03:40.10 | ajuonline | !next |
| 03:40.10 | socinfo | "next" is Students can now submit code samples, see http://tinyurl.com/gsoc09code |
| 03:40.18 | ajuonline | socinfo: what after that? |
| 03:40.19 | socinfo | Error: "what" is not a valid command. |
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| 03:52.01 | Landon | summatusmentis: huzzah! code uploaded |
| 03:52.46 | ojwb | ajuonline: after that, wait impatiently for t-shirt! |
| 03:52.50 | summatusmentis | I'm doing mine this weekend |
| 03:53.09 | ojwb | and for next year |
| 03:53.25 | Landon | is going to hopefully get an internship this upcoming year |
| 03:53.54 | Landon | soc is awesome and all, but coding in my house is boring :P |
| 03:54.22 | summatusmentis | and the comparable money isn't there |
| 03:54.31 | summatusmentis | which is an unfortunate reality |
| 03:55.21 | Landon | the payment timing isn't that great either on a students budget |
| 03:55.24 | Landon | :\ |
| 03:55.34 | summatusmentis | tru |
| 03:55.37 | summatusmentis | +e |
| 04:01.34 | Dark_Shikari | coding is boring? =p |
| 04:02.15 | Landon | Dark_Shikari: in my house yes :P |
| 04:02.26 | Landon | I didn't have a desk all summer, my monitor was on a night stand |
| 04:02.26 | Dark_Shikari | "in this house, all coding must be boring!" |
| 04:02.53 | summatusmentis | I had a crappy chair this summer |
| 04:03.07 | Landon | I had a camping chair this summer iirc :P |
| 04:03.33 | Dark_Shikari | wonders if he should mention the chair he sat in |
| 04:03.47 | Landon | (oh and there's also the fact that companies can afford much cooler stuff for me to play with than I can myself >.>) |
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| 04:04.34 | LawnGnome | I've found the trick to working remotely is (a) having a good "home office" where you switch on -- working from your couch/bed is useless, because if you're like me, you end up spending all day browsing por... YouTube, and (b) getting to know the people at a good coffee shop nearby so you can go sit there for a few hours and they'll occasionally ferry you coffee and give you someone to chat to when you're not quite in the zone. :) |
| 04:04.57 | Dark_Shikari | BlockSite is good and you should use it |
| 04:05.20 | Landon | who are you kidding, unless my ISP does it for me, I'll get past any filter if I'm determined enough :P |
| 04:05.36 | Dark_Shikari | it's shockingly effective |
| 04:05.51 | Landon | I tried slapping a few timewasters in my hosts file this summer |
| 04:05.52 | Dark_Shikari | I put reddit on my blocksite because it was phenomenally shitty |
| 04:05.57 | Dark_Shikari | and I haven't accessed it in 2-3 months |
| 04:06.11 | Landon | the effect? ^r-h brings up sudo vim /etc/hosts |
| 04:06.16 | Landon | :P |
| 04:06.35 | LawnGnome | Dark_Shikari: I don't see much point to that sort of thing, since I'll just turn it off if I want to anyway. It's more about mental discipline -- at least for me. YMMV, naturally. |
| 04:06.51 | Dark_Shikari | LawnGnome: I thought the same exact thing until I tried it |
| 04:07.02 | Landon | too bad I don't use firefox |
| 04:07.02 | Dark_Shikari | we spend half the day reflexivly opening sites |
| 04:07.02 | Landon | :p |
| 04:07.07 | Dark_Shikari | blocking them creates a barrier to access |
| 04:08.03 | Landon | speaking of oding |
| 04:08.11 | Landon | anyone want to finish up a python script for me |
| 04:14.10 | ojwb | Dark_Shikari: was it a throne made from human skulls? |
| 04:14.35 | Landon | I bet it was an aeron chair made from human skulls |
| 04:15.11 | LawnGnome | Landon: Human skulls with osteoporosis to simulate the usual Aeron fabric's meshy air flow goodness. ;) |
| 04:15.15 | summatusmentis | I really need to stop looking at the Google Jobs website |
| 04:15.19 | Dark_Shikari | an aeron chair made from the destroyed privacy of facebook users. er, I mean... |
| 04:15.53 | Landon | summatusmentis: lets apply for manual labor jobs in antarctica |
| 04:16.07 | summatusmentis | no dude, I raked blueberries for a summer |
| 04:16.13 | Landon | ... |
| 04:16.14 | summatusmentis | I'm done doing manual labor |
| 04:16.16 | Landon | it's antarctica |
| 04:16.19 | Landon | you won't get sweaty and hot! |
| 04:16.20 | Landon | :P |
| 04:16.33 | summatusmentis | no, you'll get sweaty, and then it'll freeze to your coat |
| 04:16.41 | Landon | well |
| 04:16.45 | Landon | think of it this way |
| 04:16.47 | Landon | in kansas |
| 04:16.53 | Landon | you can work naked and still be sweaty and hot |
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| 04:17.04 | Landon | in antarctica you can work naked and ... well, be a little chilly |
| 04:17.15 | summatusmentis | yes, but no one uses Kansas as a reference point |
| 04:17.17 | Landon | there were some other interesting jobs there |
| 04:17.19 | Landon | like cook |
| 04:17.42 | summatusmentis | cook is interesting \o/ >_> |
| 04:19.16 | summatusmentis | Landon: you realize we're at a point where we should be deciding what to start doing with our lives right? |
| 04:19.21 | summatusmentis | or if not now, very very soon |
| 04:19.30 | Landon | that's not going to stop me from procrastinating |
| 04:19.55 | summatusmentis | I can't handle this |
| 04:20.27 | Landon | Responsibilities: |
| 04:20.27 | Landon | The Blaster is responsible for the safe storage, handling and use of commercial grade explosives as directed or delegated by the Lead Blaster. |
| 04:20.36 | Landon | are you saying you don't want to consider doing that!? |
| 04:20.42 | ojwb | that's a role at Google? |
| 04:21.07 | Landon | hahaha :P |
| 04:21.08 | LawnGnome | ojwb: Sure, it's how Google deals with SEO "experts" who try to game PageRank. |
| 04:21.10 | summatusmentis | I would consider doing that |
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| 04:21.21 | Landon | ojwb: http://www.rayjobs.com/index.cfm?NavID=21 |
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| 04:21.51 | Landon | all the ez stuff isn't shown anymore :( |
| 04:22.33 | ojwb | "so, what do you do for a living?" 'well, I blow up the antarctic, for science!' |
| 04:22.53 | Landon | summatusmentis: also, you realize, I'm at a point in my life where I'd rather be a professional adventurer with a computer engineering hobby :P |
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| 04:23.11 | ojwb | wouldn't worry about having a grand life plan as you leave uni |
| 04:23.18 | ojwb | or at any point for that matter |
| 04:23.29 | ojwb | just do what seems cool or interesting, and time will pass |
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| 04:23.49 | ojwb | then you die |
| 04:23.55 | ojwb | or achieve immortality |
| 04:24.50 | Landon | hohoo, they do have an opening for computer engineers |
| 04:25.06 | Landon | with a minimum of 6 years satellite communications experience |
| 04:25.07 | Landon | doh |
| 04:25.15 | summatusmentis | Landon: I was thinking about that actually, I'd love to get paid to do coding, but not be required to go into the office, and then be able to be a photo essayist |
| 04:25.31 | summatusmentis | ojwb: well, I'm contemplating grad school, so I should be deciding soon |
| 04:25.41 | summatusmentis | given 3rd year status as an undergrad |
| 04:25.51 | Landon | I don';t think I could handle grad school |
| 04:26.02 | Landon | I need to get out and get a job where I actually get vacation and have the money to enjoy it |
| 04:26.02 | summatusmentis | I'm not sure I can either, hence "contemplating" |
| 04:26.11 | ojwb | summatusmentis: well, if it seems cool or interesting, go for it... |
| 04:26.22 | summatusmentis | parts of it do |
| 04:26.25 | Landon | (that and I've been working with grad students since freshman year) |
| 04:26.28 | summatusmentis | other parts seem very very ooffputting |
| 04:26.34 | summatusmentis | offputting* |
| 04:26.35 | Landon | kind of takes away any glamour it once had |
| 04:26.35 | Landon | :p |
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| 04:38.03 | subzero | BryanWB: man, I'm going to sleep :) |
| 04:38.36 | subzero | see you everyone :) |
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| 05:18.37 | arma | hello world. can somebody here point me to the url for the waiting list for locals for the mentor summit? i figure we should get our locals signed up. |
| 05:19.21 | ojwb | arma: http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Attendee_List_2009 |
| 05:19.24 | ojwb | and scroll down |
| 05:20.44 | arma | oh hey. my locals are already on the list. and they're the top slots. great. |
| 05:21.20 | kblin | yawns |
| 05:21.28 | kblin | bloody early |
| 05:21.32 | arma | (i was fearing it would be a list with 500 names on it already ;) |
| 05:21.32 | kblin | morning folks |
| 05:22.30 | Landon | hm |
| 05:22.42 | kblin | as opposed to what you might think, not everybody and his dog live in silicon valley |
| 05:22.45 | kblin | :) |
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| 05:24.09 | arma | sure, but i bet they could muster 500 developers if pressed |
| 05:24.41 | ojwb | probably not ones who mentored for gsoc this year though |
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| 13:21.33 | MatthewWilkes | morning all |
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| 13:26.07 | eliel | !timeline |
| 13:26.07 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline, or (#2) if you prefer a pretty visual timeline see http://is.gd/141Tu |
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| 13:26.47 | eliel | hello, when are the t-shirts shipped? |
| 13:30.51 | Ivanovic | eliel: depends |
| 13:31.10 | Ivanovic | if you are a mentor/admin: they already were shipped and should arrive "some time soon" |
| 13:31.25 | eliel | and for students? |
| 13:31.29 | Ivanovic | if you are a student, it depends on your submission of the sample code |
| 13:31.37 | Ivanovic | have a look at the timeline in the submission howto |
| 13:31.39 | Ivanovic | http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/web/how-to-provide-google-with-sample-code |
| 13:32.36 | eliel | Ivanovic: thanks!! |
| 13:34.31 | Ivanovic | you're welcome |
| 13:34.40 | Ivanovic | !next |
| 13:34.41 | socinfo | "next" is Students can now submit code samples, see http://tinyurl.com/gsoc09code |
| 13:34.50 | Ivanovic | okay, it is listed there, too |
| 13:35.18 | eliel | yes, i have already submitted the code sample |
| 13:35.45 | Ivanovic | then just wait |
| 13:35.46 | kblin | yay |
| 13:35.52 | Ivanovic | kblin: -vvv |
| 13:36.05 | kblin | no filling out the green form twice this year :) |
| 13:36.14 | Ivanovic | lucky you |
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| 14:35.44 | Landon | so, I thought learning about polymorphism would be really cool |
| 14:35.47 | Landon | and I'd learn something new |
| 14:36.05 | Landon | but no, of course not, it's just another word :( |
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| 14:52.03 | dberkholz | yep, cool words don't always describe cool things |
| 14:52.16 | dberkholz | like coprolite |
| 14:52.49 | Landon | will that one get me odd looks if i look it up in class? |
| 14:52.51 | Landon | >.> |
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| 14:56.45 | Landon | i suppose learning about UML makes up for that letdown |
| 14:56.57 | Landon | but I've given up on finding anything else as life-changing as classes |
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| 16:32.14 | kblin | wonders if it's worth switching to PDT pre-travel |
| 16:32.40 | Landon | change yourwatch every time you hit a time zone |
| 16:32.44 | Landon | :) |
| 16:33.59 | kblin | hm? inflight? what's the benefit to that? |
| 16:34.01 | summatusmentis | I often forget to change my watch until I get there, but my phone updates automatically |
| 16:34.12 | summatusmentis | and then I'm confused :) |
| 16:35.00 | Landon | kblin: so the rounding errors add up :D |
| 16:35.21 | Landon | assuming you have an analog watch |
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| 16:39.56 | kblin | .. |
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| 16:40.02 | kblin | that doesn't help |
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| 16:41.07 | straydawg | hi all :) |
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| 17:21.03 | floppyears | did the deadline for uploading the code passed already? |
| 17:21.24 | skbohra | its 14th |
| 17:21.33 | floppyears | thanks skbohra |
| 17:21.35 | skbohra | so you have still time |
| 17:21.40 | skbohra | and its soft deadline |
| 17:22.20 | floppyears | so after the 14th they'll start sending the t-shirts? |
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| 17:25.37 | skbohra | yup |
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| 17:25.45 | skbohra | that's wait I am hoping of |
| 17:25.50 | skbohra | and waiting for |
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| 17:27.16 | floppyears | personally, I'm more excited about the t-shirts than the online library thing gift |
| 17:28.38 | skbohra | so as me |
| 17:29.11 | skbohra | I am all eyes to see that email from ellen :) |
| 17:32.32 | floppyears | yeah |
| 17:33.18 | ThomasWaldmann | https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/ btw, everybody planning a mentor summit travel without visa ("visa waiver program", applies to citicens of many european states) should have a look there - this seems to be new since January 2009! |
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| 17:47.19 | Nightrose | Machine-readable passports issued or renewed/extended on or after 10/26/06 are required to be e-passports. |
| 17:47.32 | Nightrose | ^ how do I know if my passport is an e passport? |
| 17:47.56 | koryk | Nightrose: does it have wifi or an ethernet port? |
| 17:48.09 | Nightrose | :D |
| 17:48.13 | Nightrose | doesn't look like it |
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| 17:48.57 | kblin | Nightrose: where's that passport from? |
| 17:49.01 | Nightrose | germany |
| 17:49.10 | Nightrose | hmmm last page says something about electronic stuff in there |
| 17:49.18 | kblin | Nightrose: on european passports, there's a special symbol on e-passports |
| 17:49.28 | kblin | it's a rectangular symbol |
| 17:49.40 | kblin | also, you'll have those new ugly photos in them |
| 17:49.43 | MatthewWilkes | and it has a massive, obvious rfid chip on one of the pages |
| 17:50.02 | Chainsaw | Yes, it's quite proudly displayed. Basically the next-to-last page. |
| 17:50.26 | MatthewWilkes | renewed early in 2006 so he got a new 10 year one just before the chips got added |
| 17:50.36 | kblin | sighs |
| 17:50.40 | kblin | I was too young back then |
| 17:50.47 | Nightrose | looks up that symbol |
| 17:50.59 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: How old are you? |
| 17:51.02 | kblin | so I renewed just before the date, but it's only valid for 5 years |
| 17:51.06 | kblin | 26 now |
| 17:51.18 | MatthewWilkes | huh, yeah, thought you were older than me |
| 17:51.19 | MatthewWilkes | I'm 23 |
| 17:51.36 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: might be rules are different in germany |
| 17:51.42 | MatthewWilkes | sounds likely |
| 17:51.54 | kblin | but I think you only get 5 years on the passport if you're under 25 or the like |
| 17:51.57 | Nightrose | kblin: http://www.bmi.bund.de/cln_156/SharedDocs/Bilder/DE/Themen/Sicherheit/Paesse_und_Ausweise/ePass.html?nn=106768&isPoster=true <- the symbol under reisepass? |
| 17:52.23 | kblin | yeah |
| 17:52.51 | Nightrose | \o/ |
| 17:52.52 | Nightrose | thx |
| 17:53.09 | kblin | np |
| 17:53.22 | Nightrose | this would have posed quite a big problem on me coming to the mentor summit otherwise... |
| 17:53.28 | Nightrose | stupid visa stuff |
| 17:53.42 | kblin | but you've got a german passport, right? |
| 17:54.05 | Nightrose | jep |
| 17:54.16 | kblin | so you just need to fill out the visa waiver thing on esta |
| 17:54.45 | Nightrose | jep but if i didn't have an epass i'd need to apply for a visa |
| 17:54.52 | kblin | right |
| 17:55.11 | kblin | but all german passports starting from oct 2005 have rfids, I think |
| 17:55.26 | Nightrose | ok mine is from 2008 |
| 17:55.50 | MatthewWilkes | Generally, EU passports are safe from the US rules |
| 17:55.55 | MatthewWilkes | as the deadlines were chosen sensibl |
| 17:55.55 | MatthewWilkes | y |
| 17:55.59 | kblin | which reminds me, I wanted to check if I can block RFID scanners with antistatic foil |
| 17:56.07 | Nightrose | hehe |
| 17:57.19 | kblin | seriously, I'm not going to start playing radar beacon next year |
| 17:57.58 | scorche|sh | made a nice wallet/sleeve for his passport out of aluminium foil |
| 17:57.58 | Chainsaw | kblin: Yes, tinfoil works. You can also buy commercial passport holders that block the RFID signal completely. |
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| 20:31.24 | joeyadams | When we submit our code snippets, do we need to use the same name we used for our proposal? |
| 20:31.38 | joeyadams | My original proposal was over-scoped, so it would probably not be appropriate in my case. |
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