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01:37.39Landonhi kpreid
01:37.44kpreidHi.
01:39.06kpreidLandon: ?
01:39.14Landonjust saying hi >.>
01:39.22Landonyou had the unluck of beinjg the last person to join
01:39.56kpreidOh, well, I've been joining a lot lately. Unfortunate collision of a mostly-harmless network problem and an overeager IRC client.
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06:27.29Landonsummatusmentis: have you seen the facebookdino island puzzle?
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09:27.11kblinyay, a 51 hour flight to SFO
09:27.50LawnGnomekblin: That sounds AWESOME. (By "awesome", I really mean "ouch-worthy".)
09:28.37kblinbut it's cheap. and I totally miss the mentor summit :)
09:31.02kblinwonders why the web frontend even mentions that
09:31.40kblinI could probably earn the price difference for a shorter flight by shining shoes for the two days I save
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09:36.37Landonheh
09:37.06Landongets back to slacking off
09:37.19Landonif anyone hasn't already played with it, this puzzle is really fun
09:37.21Landonhttp://www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php?puzzle_id=19
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11:30.22skbohra!tshirt
11:30.23socinfoError: "tshirt" is not a valid command.
11:30.58t0msskbohra: :))
11:31.10skbohra:)
11:31.13t0msskbohra: we have to wait few more weeks ;)
11:31.18skbohraahhh
11:31.41t0msI assume that the package will arrive by the end of Sept. or beginning of Oct.
11:31.41skbohrafew more weeks!!
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11:32.43skbohraI heard they will be sending after 14th of this month
11:34.09t0msskbohra: then my assumptions might be wrong :D
11:34.54skbohrayes, lh said that, they will start sending tshirts and certi after 14th
11:35.36t0msskbohra: yeah, so at least +7 days for fedex delivery
11:35.45skbohrayup
11:35.57skbohraso its almost end of Sept
11:36.04t0ms:)
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13:22.22thebolthi all
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13:50.15kblinhi folks
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13:59.20MatthewWilkesHi webchick, I hear one of my old coworkers stole your seat at drupalcon, wish I could have come and hung out
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14:03.17MaNIhello
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14:06.12kblinhi folks
14:06.25kblingoes to prepare lunch
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14:09.06theboltkblin: early lunch ;)
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14:15.40kblinthebolt: well, I gave up pre-jetlagging at UTC-0200 for today
14:16.11kblinso I'll try to reach at least EST tonight :)
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14:16.51desowinanyone here have write access to the Statistics spreadsheet? There's typo in 732th row of "Schools w/# Acptd Students" page, there's "Sileisan", but it should be "Silesian"
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14:17.35thebolthehe
14:18.43kblinI do feel jet-lagged, let's see if it helps for my target timezone, though
14:20.30brlcadkblin: if you reach EST, you'll be an hour off ;)
14:20.37Ivanovickblin: uhm, you are currently living in utc-0200, too?
14:20.41desowinspeaking of the stats, was there something I missed? For this year the data was collected  using that speadsheet, but how did it work for previous years?
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14:21.02Ivanovic(at least getting up and having your meals according to this timezone)
14:21.18theboltIvanovic: i think kblin still is utc+2 ;)
14:21.20theboltbut adopting for travel
14:21.45LennieI know that next year it should be easier to export these stats due to the statistics project a student did for Melange this year
14:21.53Lennienot sure how they did it in previous years ^^
14:21.56Ivanovicthebolt: i life in utc+2, too
14:22.06desowinLennie: anyway, it misses some data
14:22.30Ivanovicthebolt: though my daily schedule looks more like i would life in utc-2
14:22.30kblinIvanovic: I'm flying to CA on sunday, got a bit crappy connection, so I only reach SFO at 21:00 local time
14:22.38Lenniedesowin: I can't help with that I think
14:22.42desowinLennie: as I can't see my high school there (which I graduated last year)
14:22.45LennieIt's all in the hands of Ellen :P
14:22.58Ivanovicarriving at 9pm ain't too bad
14:23.00MatthewWilkesI'm in UTC-0400 atm, but still working on UTC+0100, which is handy as everyone here gets up obscenely early
14:23.01kblinIvanovic: and I've got a talk monday noon, that I still need to prepare some stuff for on-site, so I need to be fit
14:23.13Ivanovicleaves you with enough time to get to the hotel and be in bed at about midnight
14:23.40kblinyeah, just that I have to be awake enough to drive a car
14:23.43theboltkblin: last conference i arrived at 22 or so.. got to the hotel a while after midnight (and then breakfast at hm.. 7?)
14:23.47Lenniedesowin: I wonder why you are missing :D
14:23.50Ivanovicthen you should be able to fall right asleep and be done, should (in theory) work out nicely unless you make the mistake of sleeping on the plane
14:24.09Ivanovichmm, driving a car is the most problematic part there...
14:24.19Lennieanyhow, gotta go
14:24.22kblinIvanovic: my current plan is to do tomorrow and saturday on eastern/central time
14:24.30Lenniewriting in R lol :D
14:24.45desowinLennie: well, you know, at some family party, some people asked where I am, sitting in front of me :D
14:24.50Ivanovickblin: easy enough!
14:24.52Ivanovic;)
14:24.53kblinand then just not go to bed saturday, which leaves me with a ~midnight flight pacific time
14:25.11ChainsawBut why would you not sleep on the plane?
14:25.17kblinthen, I can try and get some sleep on the plane
14:25.20ChainsawIt's 11 hours or more for most people.
14:25.55kblinChainsaw: I need to be really tired to be able to get some sleep in cattle class
14:25.55ChainsawThere is no legroom or internet connectivity. Not a thing to do.
14:25.58IvanovicChainsaw: if you sleep on the plane and want to sleep again some 5 hours later it will be damn difficult to really fall asleep
14:26.12Ivanovicotherwise you are hardly able to switch to the different timezone
14:26.36ChainsawDon't plan to have an actual first day. You lose a day to travel and jetlag.
14:26.38kblinIvanovic: that's why I just skip the night from saturday to sunday, and sleep while over the atlantic
14:26.57kblinChainsaw: no time for that
14:27.17Chainsawkblin's plan of not sleeping first makes sense as well. It's a noisy environment and you'll have to be proper tired (or have a chemical assist) to actually fall asleep there.
14:27.48kblinI don't believe in chemical assistance for sleeping.. :)
14:27.58Ivanovic:)
14:28.20Ivanovickblin: you could use some lecture to make you fall asleep
14:28.26kblinhm, true
14:28.39kblinI could take my neural networking book
14:28.40Ivanovicjust do a voice recording of the most boring guy you know and you will easily fall asleep
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14:28.58kblinbut I decided that I won't look at university stuff for the coming week
14:29.30Ivanovic(at least i know that if i was hearing a damn boring lecture and *not* concentrating on somehow staying awake no matter what, it would work withhin seconds to make me fall asleep)
14:29.45Ivanovickblin: the task is not *learning* anything, but being sedated
14:29.49kblinyeah, but university benches have more leg room
14:30.30Ivanovicdepends on the lecture hall
14:30.48Ivanovicsome of ours do not have *this* much more room and, even more problematic, the seats are less comfortable
14:30.50Ivanovic;)
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14:32.42skbohraclassrooms have never been comfortable ;)
14:33.31Ivanovicskbohra: ah, depends on where you have your lectures
14:34.16Ivanovicone lecture (it was just our prof and five students) we had in the meeting room of the respective chair
14:35.02Ivanovicthere the seats were *really* comfortable and it was just like "some normal chatting in a comfortable environment", not like some lecture where you just feel uncompftable when sitting
14:36.13Ivanovicokay, clearly not an ordinary classroom, but we had a lecture in there, so somehow you could call it classroom...
14:36.39skbohra:) that is really nice
14:38.05Ivanovicjupp, was a really fun lecture
14:38.08skbohrathough at the end what matters is how much do you get from that lecture :)
14:38.52Ivanovictrust me, it was great because it was such a small group
14:39.11theboltIvanovic: what subject was it?
14:39.12Ivanovicyou learn a lot more there than with 200 fellow students in the same room since you are basically talking about the stuff
14:39.23Ivanovicthat was about "sub linear time algorithms"
14:39.40theboltk
14:39.41Ivanovic(okay, i was not required to do it, was a fun lecture for me and fun it really was)
14:39.59theboltin the end we were 5-6 people when i took stochastic processes.. was a great course
14:40.20theboltbut started out as 20, so we had a big class room
14:40.22Ivanovicright from the 3rd lecture on we were only 5 students
14:40.27skbohraIvanovic: true, with smaller group its always good
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14:44.13thebolti think for my class it made no difference
14:44.32theboltit was "professor talks, lists theorems and proofs" when were 20 people.. it was the same when we were 5 ;)
14:45.49Ivanovicfor my class it made a difference, because the lecture was a real dialog
14:46.05Ivanovicyes, normally it is "profs talks and we ask when it gets too obscure"
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14:46.51Ivanovicthat is: "too obscure but we are still able to formulate some question" (yuo are easily past this point if you are not *really* careful)
14:49.10theboltheh yep
14:49.13theboltsame with our class
14:49.23theboltonce you got into integration in L2 probability measure spaces etc
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15:09.48thebolthi marty
15:10.59kblinping woodstock
15:11.04kbliner, wrong window
15:12.39kblinnow that's fun
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15:17.08mdchi thebolt :)
15:19.09theboltcalls out a big curse on function spaces and goes on reading..
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19:48.08JeroenDeDauwAny students/mentors from Belgium or The Netherlands here?
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20:00.54mordanteJeroenDeDauw, yes
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21:03.41YogiHHhi, i have a question about booking hotel rooms for the mentor summit. Anyone around who can help me with that?
21:06.11kblinI can try
21:06.36kblinI'm limited to experience from last year, though
21:07.52YogiHHkblin: thanks, first question, can i book a double room for me and my fellow mentor or do we have to do it each separately?
21:09.10kblinyou book a double room yourself, then call them to give them the same of your co-mentor
21:10.31YogiHHkblin: ok. There are 4 types of rooms, two of them seem to be double rooms. Does it matter which one we take? Seems like they all cost the same, though.
21:11.31kblinI didn't check yet, but you might want to make sure you get a two bed room, unless you like getting really close with your co-mentor
21:11.49YogiHHhehe, no, i don't plan to do that ;-)
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21:13.55YogiHHkblin: There is going to be some kind of "official announcement" of the attendee list, i suppose, so it makes sense to wait for that before booking the rooms? But then again, i already booked the flights, as you will have trouble to get them later on.
21:15.04kblinYogiHH: the projects are responsible of sending two mentors, I think if you know who's going to go (you booked the flights after all), go ahead and book the hotel rooms
21:15.26kblinI didn't do that yet as I don't know who I'll be sharing my room with this year
21:15.50YogiHHkblin: ok, we have decided on that already. Thanks for your help :)
21:16.09kblinwe've got a couple of mentors who can go on different projects' slots, and we're currently figuring out the best arrangement
21:16.30kblinunfortunately, that's a knappsack-problem, and thus NP-complete
21:18.51YogiHHkblin: maybe you can code an evolutionary algorithm to find the best solution ;-)
21:21.40kblinnot anymore.... I've got an exam about this in mid-october, but I haven't started looking at that stuff again
21:22.56kblinbut I could get really popular in my department by coupling a genetic algorithm for this with some sort of monte carlo simulation :)
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23:12.21kbliner, impress
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