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| 00:06.39 | monsieurp | hi |
| 00:07.05 | monsieurp | any admins around? I have a question concerning CITI credit card |
| 00:09.15 | summatusmentis | you're probably better off email ellen ko directly |
| 00:09.50 | monsieurp | thanks |
| 00:10.08 | monsieurp | what's his email? do you have it? |
| 00:12.42 | summatusmentis | I don't know it off the top of my head, I'm sure her email is on the student list |
| 00:13.36 | monsieurp | yes I found it |
| 00:17.33 | Ivanovic | kblin: so how is your sheevaplug doing now? managed to brick it again or are you completely satisfied atm? was the customs stuff resolved? |
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| 09:36.18 | kblin | Ivanovic: it's still working. didn't follow up on the tax stuff yet, been too busy |
| 09:44.30 | Ivanovic | mkay |
| 09:45.55 | thebolt | morning |
| 09:55.05 | kblin | Ivanovic: the sheeva is not powerful enough to run a wombat instance on a real media repository with a decent responst time it seems |
| 09:55.30 | Ivanovic | wow, this suprises me |
| 09:55.36 | kblin | but that might be the combination of a pretty big sqlite DB stored on an external USB disk |
| 09:55.39 | Ivanovic | is wombat requiring this many resources? |
| 09:56.14 | kblin | I didn't profile it yet, but it's sluggish on both the beagle and the sheeva |
| 09:56.24 | Ivanovic | uhm, even on a normal external USB disc you should get average data rate of something like 35MB/s |
| 09:56.50 | Ivanovic | have you checked how it behaves if you have the DB on the usb stick in your desktop/laptop? |
| 09:57.05 | kblin | nope, didn't check that yet |
| 09:57.33 | Ivanovic | might also be that your usb stick is simply too slow (since some of them are damn slow compared to normal harddrives) |
| 09:58.11 | kblin | it's a usb hdd |
| 09:58.21 | kblin | but it takes a while to spin up.. |
| 09:58.21 | Ivanovic | interesting |
| 09:58.32 | Ivanovic | that is quite normal if you allow it to spindown |
| 09:58.38 | kblin | however, this should only be a problem once |
| 09:58.53 | Ivanovic | that is: 2.5" discs should not take as long for spin up as 3.5" discs |
| 09:59.06 | kblin | it's a 3.5" disk |
| 09:59.23 | Ivanovic | depends on the setup, if you allow it to spindown eg after 10mins of inactivity it will be a problem again and again |
| 09:59.39 | kblin | not my point |
| 09:59.52 | kblin | it's a problem on reloading the page right away |
| 09:59.58 | Ivanovic | outsch |
| 10:00.24 | kblin | I didn't check if the performance is better with e.g. MySQL |
| 10:00.49 | kblin | it might be a problem with sqlite over USB on a somewhat slow system |
| 10:00.50 | Ivanovic | okay, on my desktop i do get 33MB/s to 35MB/s from my external usb disc on average, in peaks it is up to 50MB/s, which is not much less than you sometimes get from drives in laptops |
| 10:01.22 | Ivanovic | so either the usb implementation in the sheevaplug (as well as on the beagle board) are slow, or something is |
| 10:01.25 | Ivanovic | *strange* |
| 10:03.47 | kblin | I'm just installing hdparm |
| 10:05.15 | kblin | well, it's ~30MB/sec |
| 10:05.28 | Ivanovic | that is totally fine |
| 10:05.36 | Ivanovic | you won't get much more on your desktop |
| 10:05.50 | kblin | I wonder ~80MB/sec |
| 10:05.52 | kblin | er |
| 10:05.53 | thebolt | bah, i love trying to estimate what hardware you need for a specific function.. it is so much easier to know what hardware you need when you actually have designed the software :P |
| 10:06.27 | kblin | Ivanovic: on my desktop I get ~80MB/sec |
| 10:06.35 | Ivanovic | from the usb drive? |
| 10:07.00 | Ivanovic | you know that usb2.0 only has 480MBit bandwidth? |
| 10:07.04 | kblin | nope, from the real hard drive. I didn't try wombat from a usb drive :) |
| 10:07.09 | Ivanovic | which would be 60MB/s in a perfect case |
| 10:07.14 | kblin | yeah. O know |
| 10:07.33 | Ivanovic | but since USB2.0 has a really bad overhead some rather constant 30MB are fine |
| 10:07.56 | Ivanovic | yes, *modern* internal drives are well above those 30MB/s |
| 10:08.08 | Ivanovic | IIRC my main drive gets up to 100MB/s |
| 10:09.03 | Ivanovic | though the older ones (go back some 6 years or the likes) or some "slower" (4200rpm) laptop drives are at max somewhere between 40MB/s to 50MB/s |
| 10:09.18 | kblin | I'm also a tad disappointed by the sheevaplug "gigabit" ethernet |
| 10:10.05 | Ivanovic | what are the datarates you get? |
| 10:10.17 | kblin | it seems to peak at ~590Mbit/sec |
| 10:10.56 | kblin | On the same switch, I tend to get around 950Mbit/sec from one of my desktops to the other |
| 10:10.58 | Ivanovic | personally i'd say that is perfectly fine, some 73MB/s |
| 10:11.13 | kblin | same iperf settings |
| 10:11.52 | kblin | however, as a fileserver that's ok |
| 10:12.10 | kblin | especially given that the USB drive is the bottleneck there |
| 10:12.21 | Ivanovic | jupp |
| 10:12.41 | Ivanovic | what is the datarate when using rsync via ssh? |
| 10:12.55 | kblin | hang on, I'll check |
| 10:12.57 | Ivanovic | (since that one is a little more interesting for me because i prefer sshfs) |
| 10:16.00 | kblin | ~5.5 MB/s reading from the sheevaplug |
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| 10:21.00 | kblin | slightly over 5 MB/s writing to she sheevaplug |
| 10:21.13 | kblin | and I can't spell |
| 10:22.20 | kblin | I still need to get around to set up cifs mounts on my linux clients |
| 10:22.44 | kblin | but it's been very convinient to easily share data with the windows boxes |
| 10:23.19 | kblin | especially as I had this one download from msdn.microsoft.com that'd keep stalling at around 98% in Linux/Firefox |
| 10:23.34 | kblin | and it was much faster in XP/FTM |
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