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03:21.23skbohramorning folks :)
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08:41.45Landonhmm
08:41.45LandonI can _hear_ my monitor :\
08:41.45theboltusually that is not a good sign
08:41.45LandonI hope this doesn't mean it's going to die in the near future
08:41.45Landonyeah
08:41.50Landonit's also been flashing white when turned off/on
08:41.56Landondefinitely a deviation from the norm
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19:50.17adolfgsoc 2010?
19:50.54Wil2k3I'm excited for gsoc 2010, it's going to be my first time applying I hope I get the chance to participate
19:51.34adolfMyself would like to apply for the first time
19:53.31Wil2k3The application process begins March 9th, correct?
19:54.49Landonincorrect :P
19:54.59Landonhasn't even been announced yet
19:55.24mordanteI already wondered whether I missed the announcement
19:56.04adolfhas anyone got some suggestions for first time students?
19:56.55Wil2k3Oh haha
19:57.06Wil2k3I must've been looking at last years FAQ then
19:57.50Wil2k3I'm looking at last years projects, sounds like this is going to be a lot of fun.
19:58.36Wil2k3What are the most common languages used in the projects?
19:59.30mordanteadolf, I'd say try to find a project and already start to participate
19:59.52mordanteof course it's not sure whether there will be a gsoc2010 and which projects will participate ;-)
20:00.46mordanteWil2k3, http://delicious.com/gsoc2009
20:00.47adolfI am using gentoo and enjoy it very much maybe the will mentor something I am interested in
20:02.00Wil2k3Thanks mordante
20:02.16mordanteyou're welcome
20:02.41Wil2k3Can you elaborate on not being sure about gsoc 2010?
20:03.50mordantesimple google hasn't announced it yet
20:04.30mordanteuntil they do it's not certain there will be a gsoc2010
20:04.34Wil2k3Ahh
20:06.56scorche|shthough it is very likely  ;)
20:09.14Wil2k3Awesome. Can you apply to more than one project? Or do you just apply to one?
20:09.53mordantescorche|sh, I also expect that ;-)
20:10.51mordanteyes you can apply to multiple projects, but only work on one project
20:10.56scorche|shWil2k3: it is encouraged to apply to more than one, but one shouldnt apply to so many that it lessens the quality of their apps - a lot of thought and effort should be put into each app, so you should probably determine your own limit
20:12.34Wil2k3Oh, I was under the impression that you apply to many but only get accepted to one.
20:12.44Wil2k3Like mordante implied
20:12.47scorche|shthat is indeed the case
20:12.57scorche|shi was only referring to applying...not working  ;)
20:13.48Wil2k3Oh haha cool
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20:16.41olthere's a limit of (IIRC) 20 on the number of applications
20:16.43olor was last year
20:16.53olbut it's foolish to make more than 2 or 3 IMHO
20:17.09olthey'll just be poor quality and stand little chance
20:17.50olhaving a backup is wise in case someone else picks the same project as you, or there isn't a mentor available for it or something
20:18.27scorche|shthough there is the rare person who can put together a number of good apps...just ask KillerX  ;)
20:20.08olsuch people are definitely the exception though
20:20.37olour best student this year didn't apply elsewhere, but submitted really early
20:21.06olso by the time most other applications rolled in, we'd been discussing his proposal for days and it was pretty much unbeatable
20:21.18Wil2k3Haha, since its my first time I think its best to listen to advice. Even though I've been known to work fast without sacrificing quality I don't want to drive myself crazy
20:22.02olmany orgs will work with you to revise your application
20:22.41olnot all though - the larger ones who get a lot of applications just don't have the resources too
20:22.48olbut revising 20 applications in parallel will keep you busy!
20:25.23mordantewe also ask submitters to provide one or more patches for simple features or bugs, so we get a better feeling about the student
20:25.47olthat's pretty common too
20:25.54mordanteand more orgs do that, so creating 20 patches will keep you even longer off the street
20:30.06Wil2k3So to clarify, before being accepted they might ask your to provide a patch? Or after being accepted?
20:30.36mordantebefore
20:31.00mordanteafter being selected you surely need to provide patches ;-)
20:31.26Wil2k3Haha cool
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20:37.08schumamla very good approach is to make sure that your soc app is not the first thing your favorite org gets from you
20:37.37schumamli.e. submit patches even before they ask for them
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20:59.38olmost orgs want to pick the students most likely to succeed more than anything else
21:00.05olthere are other factors, like "how useful is the work", but I think that's usually secondary
21:00.30oland if they've seen you can produce a patch or two, that shows you can check out and build the code, and find your way around it
21:00.59mordanteindeed, exactly the reason why we want patched
21:01.09mordantepatches*
21:02.06olbut for similar reasons, if you've been hanging out on the IRC channel or mailing lists for a few months already, people will be aware of you and have more confidence in your chances of success
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