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08:41.45 | Landon | I can _hear_ my monitor :\ |
08:41.45 | thebolt | usually that is not a good sign |
08:41.45 | Landon | I hope this doesn't mean it's going to die in the near future |
08:41.45 | Landon | yeah |
08:41.50 | Landon | it's also been flashing white when turned off/on |
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19:50.17 | adolf | gsoc 2010? |
19:50.54 | Wil2k3 | I'm excited for gsoc 2010, it's going to be my first time applying I hope I get the chance to participate |
19:51.34 | adolf | Myself would like to apply for the first time |
19:53.31 | Wil2k3 | The application process begins March 9th, correct? |
19:54.49 | Landon | incorrect :P |
19:54.59 | Landon | hasn't even been announced yet |
19:55.24 | mordante | I already wondered whether I missed the announcement |
19:56.04 | adolf | has anyone got some suggestions for first time students? |
19:56.55 | Wil2k3 | Oh haha |
19:57.06 | Wil2k3 | I must've been looking at last years FAQ then |
19:57.50 | Wil2k3 | I'm looking at last years projects, sounds like this is going to be a lot of fun. |
19:58.36 | Wil2k3 | What are the most common languages used in the projects? |
19:59.30 | mordante | adolf, I'd say try to find a project and already start to participate |
19:59.52 | mordante | of course it's not sure whether there will be a gsoc2010 and which projects will participate ;-) |
20:00.46 | mordante | Wil2k3, http://delicious.com/gsoc2009 |
20:00.47 | adolf | I am using gentoo and enjoy it very much maybe the will mentor something I am interested in |
20:02.00 | Wil2k3 | Thanks mordante |
20:02.16 | mordante | you're welcome |
20:02.41 | Wil2k3 | Can you elaborate on not being sure about gsoc 2010? |
20:03.50 | mordante | simple google hasn't announced it yet |
20:04.30 | mordante | until they do it's not certain there will be a gsoc2010 |
20:04.34 | Wil2k3 | Ahh |
20:06.56 | scorche|sh | though it is very likely ;) |
20:09.14 | Wil2k3 | Awesome. Can you apply to more than one project? Or do you just apply to one? |
20:09.53 | mordante | scorche|sh, I also expect that ;-) |
20:10.51 | mordante | yes you can apply to multiple projects, but only work on one project |
20:10.56 | scorche|sh | Wil2k3: it is encouraged to apply to more than one, but one shouldnt apply to so many that it lessens the quality of their apps - a lot of thought and effort should be put into each app, so you should probably determine your own limit |
20:12.34 | Wil2k3 | Oh, I was under the impression that you apply to many but only get accepted to one. |
20:12.44 | Wil2k3 | Like mordante implied |
20:12.47 | scorche|sh | that is indeed the case |
20:12.57 | scorche|sh | i was only referring to applying...not working ;) |
20:13.48 | Wil2k3 | Oh haha cool |
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20:16.41 | ol | there's a limit of (IIRC) 20 on the number of applications |
20:16.43 | ol | or was last year |
20:16.53 | ol | but it's foolish to make more than 2 or 3 IMHO |
20:17.09 | ol | they'll just be poor quality and stand little chance |
20:17.50 | ol | having a backup is wise in case someone else picks the same project as you, or there isn't a mentor available for it or something |
20:18.27 | scorche|sh | though there is the rare person who can put together a number of good apps...just ask KillerX ;) |
20:20.08 | ol | such people are definitely the exception though |
20:20.37 | ol | our best student this year didn't apply elsewhere, but submitted really early |
20:21.06 | ol | so by the time most other applications rolled in, we'd been discussing his proposal for days and it was pretty much unbeatable |
20:21.18 | Wil2k3 | Haha, since its my first time I think its best to listen to advice. Even though I've been known to work fast without sacrificing quality I don't want to drive myself crazy |
20:22.02 | ol | many orgs will work with you to revise your application |
20:22.41 | ol | not all though - the larger ones who get a lot of applications just don't have the resources too |
20:22.48 | ol | but revising 20 applications in parallel will keep you busy! |
20:25.23 | mordante | we also ask submitters to provide one or more patches for simple features or bugs, so we get a better feeling about the student |
20:25.47 | ol | that's pretty common too |
20:25.54 | mordante | and more orgs do that, so creating 20 patches will keep you even longer off the street |
20:30.06 | Wil2k3 | So to clarify, before being accepted they might ask your to provide a patch? Or after being accepted? |
20:30.36 | mordante | before |
20:31.00 | mordante | after being selected you surely need to provide patches ;-) |
20:31.26 | Wil2k3 | Haha cool |
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20:37.08 | schumaml | a very good approach is to make sure that your soc app is not the first thing your favorite org gets from you |
20:37.37 | schumaml | i.e. submit patches even before they ask for them |
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20:59.38 | ol | most orgs want to pick the students most likely to succeed more than anything else |
21:00.05 | ol | there are other factors, like "how useful is the work", but I think that's usually secondary |
21:00.30 | ol | and if they've seen you can produce a patch or two, that shows you can check out and build the code, and find your way around it |
21:00.59 | mordante | indeed, exactly the reason why we want patched |
21:01.09 | mordante | patches* |
21:02.06 | ol | but for similar reasons, if you've been hanging out on the IRC channel or mailing lists for a few months already, people will be aware of you and have more confidence in your chances of success |
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