| 00:02.39 | robbyoconnor | it's on the citi website... |
| 00:02.46 | robbyoconnor | http://myecount.com |
| 00:02.57 | robbyoconnor | or on the back of your card... show some initiative here. |
| 00:03.21 | getxsick | the one on my card isn't labeled as a free one |
| 00:03.30 | robbyoconnor | is it 877? |
| 00:03.38 | robbyoconnor | or 800? |
| 00:03.39 | getxsick | 866 |
| 00:03.43 | Jeff_S | that's free |
| 00:03.44 | robbyoconnor | that's toll free. |
| 00:03.48 | getxsick | ok |
| 00:03.51 | robbyoconnor | 877 800 866 |
| 00:03.51 | Jeff_S | from US anyway :) |
| 00:04.02 | getxsick | i will try over skype |
| 00:04.47 | getxsick | anyway, i tried to use 'forgot pass' but when i answered on 2 security question and clicked 'submit' nothing happened, do you guys notice the same? |
| 00:06.29 | robbyoconnor | i dunno |
| 00:06.33 | robbyoconnor | i forgot my pin once |
| 00:06.38 | robbyoconnor | actully no |
| 00:06.48 | robbyoconnor | i locked myself out of my account online |
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| 00:28.32 | getxsick | damn, can't change pass via phone |
| 00:29.58 | robbyoconnor | how do you do it? |
| 00:30.25 | robbyoconnor | they reset mine |
| 00:30.26 | robbyoconnor | :) |
| 00:30.40 | getxsick | pin or pass? |
| 00:31.18 | robbyoconnor | pass; pin you can change thtrough the web |
| 00:31.35 | getxsick | i didn't hear an option about password |
| 00:31.49 | getxsick | history transactions, balance, stolen cards |
| 00:39.35 | robbyoconnor | hold on |
| 00:39.48 | robbyoconnor | speak to a rep |
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| 04:23.06 | ajuonline | yaba daba doooo! |
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| 04:26.43 | robbyoconnor | ajuonline: hai |
| 04:27.46 | ajuonline | robbyoconnor: hai hai |
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| 04:51.40 | kmels | hello, regarding group, is it moderated? |
| 04:51.53 | kmels | i replied earlier here, http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/33f783acdf353fba |
| 04:52.01 | kmels | but i can't see my post. |
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| 04:57.18 | robbyoconnor | kmels: no it's not |
| 04:57.23 | robbyoconnor | your post WILL appear |
| 04:57.30 | robbyoconnor | relax |
| 04:57.39 | kmels | ok :) thanks |
| 04:57.53 | robbyoconnor | and i'm thankful if it doesn't |
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| 17:15.43 | Tronic | The URLs in channel topic appear to be b0rked. |
| 17:16.53 | MatthewWilkes | Tronic: They work for me |
| 17:18.19 | Tronic | Ah, it was some DNS trouble, works now. |
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| 19:20.13 | bourn3 | hey how can i join this google summer of code i am post graduate student from india |
| 19:20.20 | bourn3 | ? |
| 19:20.55 | Catfish_Man | bourn3: you wait until students are allowed to apply, then you follow the instructions |
| 19:21.30 | bourn3 | Ok |
| 19:21.39 | bourn3 | Thanks |
| 19:23.51 | Jeff_S | in the meantime, look at the list of past mentor orgs and if you see one or more that you like, start hanging out in the IRC chan, mailing lists, etc. That will give you a much better chance of getting accepted come application time |
| 19:26.10 | bourn3 | Hmm . Android team also participates in gsoc? |
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| 19:29.17 | Jeff_S | bourn3: here's the list of participating orgs from last year: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 19:30.29 | bourn3 | Thanks i will check right now logined from phone |
| 19:33.22 | bourn3 | I wish i get selected into this summer code for last 2 years i have been thinking to participate but i miss every time :-( |
| 19:34.28 | hypa7ia | bourn3: did you apply in previous years? |
| 19:34.52 | bourn3 | No i missed for 2 years |
| 19:34.59 | hypa7ia | ahh |
| 19:35.15 | hypa7ia | if you have a phone that can do internet, perhaps consider using it to set a reminder of the application date then :) |
| 19:35.30 | bourn3 | I year when i came to know applications were closed and next time i missed |
| 19:36.10 | bourn3 | :-) |
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| 19:38.30 | schumaml | can't wait to read this year's "why can't the deadline be extended by 15 minutes" and "in my cultural background, there are no firm deadlines!!!" ;) |
| 19:40.56 | schumaml | to be fair, the second one has afaik been used by a do-gooder |
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| 19:41.47 | hypa7ia | schumaml: that's why i'm starting early with the "put it in your calendar/phone/stickynote" advice :) |
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| 19:57.37 | fat0ss | want to work with Linux foundation this year.. |
| 19:57.52 | fat0ss | searching for the mentor for previous year .. ? |
| 19:58.15 | fat0ss | please give me Email ID or IRC handle .. |
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| 20:01.10 | hypa7ia | fat0ss: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 , have a look at the org page on there |
| 20:04.06 | fat0ss | I have really good ideas..i wan to discuss it |
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| 20:15.27 | Alpounet | schumaml, is the "in my cultural background" real ? |
| 20:15.31 | Alpounet | +quote |
| 20:22.16 | schumaml | yes, but as I wrote, it has been used by a do-gooder, not by someone who missed the deadline |
| 20:22.45 | Alpounet | okay |
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| 20:45.50 | fat0ss | looking Dbus and free desktop |
| 20:55.17 | ojwb | fat0ss: it really isn't hard to find irc channels and lists for particular projects |
| 20:55.34 | ojwb | but we don't have a magic secret master list to consult |
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| 21:26.06 | thiago | for example, D-Bus's channel is #dbus :-) |
| 21:26.11 | thiago | we desperately need help |
| 21:26.18 | thiago | but we don't have an org to join up |
| 21:31.44 | schumaml | all you want is someone to handle the money |
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| 21:32.18 | schumaml | other than that, you do not need any formal organizational structures |
| 21:33.11 | schumaml | although it could be useful if you get a major subset of freedesktop.org to act as an umbrella org |
| 21:35.29 | Alpounet | thiago, will Nokia be part of the mentoring organisations ? |
| 21:35.53 | WinterMute | what's dbus? |
| 21:36.11 | thiago | Nokia? no |
| 21:36.17 | thiago | but I'm thinking of bringing Qt in |
| 21:36.18 | thiago | Maemo is part |
| 21:36.22 | thiago | but Maemo has a community |
| 21:36.40 | Alpounet | thiago, well I meant the Qt department of Nokia |
| 21:36.55 | thiago | as for fd.o, for the past 3 years, both KDE and GNOME have said they'd accept fd.o projects |
| 21:37.06 | thiago | we have received, for those 3 years, a total of 0 applications |
| 21:37.13 | thiago | no HAL, no D-Bus, no anything |
| 21:37.25 | Alpounet | no student application you mean ? |
| 21:37.32 | thiago | yes, none were submitted to us |
| 21:37.38 | Alpounet | weird |
| 21:38.28 | schumaml | probably the "good enough" problem? |
| 21:38.53 | thiago | which problem? |
| 21:39.45 | schumaml | HAL and D-Bus are usually never encountered consciously by the user |
| 21:40.01 | schumaml | they just work |
| 21:40.10 | schumaml | at least that's my experience |
| 21:40.28 | thiago | could be |
| 21:40.39 | thiago | anyway, I'm thinking of getting Qt as an org this year |
| 21:40.39 | schumaml | add a few more bugs |
| 21:40.44 | thiago | maybe 3 or 4 students then |
| 21:41.00 | thiago | we're 150 full-time employees, but, you know... everyone is busy full-time |
| 21:41.18 | thiago | also note that WebKit will probably be an org of its own |
| 21:41.37 | Alpounet | thiago, QML can be a good spot for students |
| 21:41.48 | thiago | yep |
| 21:42.08 | thiago | proposes placing the QML Backlog Task List as the ideas page |
| 21:42.17 | Alpounet | haha |
| 21:42.19 | thiago | "implement proper text input mechanism for QML on Symbian" |
| 21:43.01 | mlankhorst | haha |
| 21:43.27 | thiago | make it worse: "for Symbian Timebox 10.1" (that is, the device that will be released in the second half of the year) |
| 21:44.53 | thiago | the version numbers on Symbian are almost as fun as Unix: 3.1, 3.2, 5.0, 9.2, ^4 |
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| 21:45.31 | Alpounet | thiago, or "Android support for Qt" |
| 21:45.43 | kblin | evening folks |
| 21:45.59 | thiago | Alpounet: right... one student, three months |
| 21:46.04 | Alpounet | heh |
| 21:47.03 | Alpounet | even with one student per Qt module it would be almost impossible. |
| 21:47.25 | kblin | well, if you provide the basic technology... :) |
| 21:47.51 | thiago | for starters, what we need from Android is something that doesn't involve going through Java/Dalvik |
| 21:48.08 | kblin | right, that'd be handy :) |
| 21:48.08 | thiago | like "get me a GL surface", "give me some events", "give me the sensors", etc. |
| 21:49.12 | thebolt | evening kblin |
| 21:49.15 | thebolt | how's it going? |
| 21:49.48 | kblin | good, good, just came home from a night at the theatre |
| 21:49.52 | thebolt | :) |
| 21:50.13 | thiago | but I'm sure there are some other fun tasks |
| 21:50.32 | thiago | like implementing effects with OpenGL |
| 21:50.40 | thiago | or improving the locale subsystem |
| 21:50.40 | kblin | a bit intimidated, though, I need to play "Lion in Winter" with some of these people soon |
| 21:50.44 | thiago | multitouch on X11 |
| 21:51.21 | Alpounet | I see you already have many ideas :-) |
| 21:51.49 | thiago | improving locale and multitouch on X11 are things already being done |
| 21:51.55 | thiago | that's why I knew them :-) |
| 21:52.50 | Alpounet | oh ok |
| 21:53.03 | Alpounet | are they creative friday tasks ? |
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| 21:55.21 | thiago | no, regular Monday-through-Friday |
| 21:55.26 | thiago | Thursday |
| 21:55.36 | thiago | for Friday, we have Google Native Client support |
| 21:56.02 | Alpounet | and widgets-ng |
| 21:56.08 | Alpounet | iirc. |
| 21:56.44 | thiago | yeah |
| 21:56.59 | thiago | would love if someone rewrote the socket engines |
| 21:57.16 | thiago | make the SSL, SOCKS5 and HTTP socket engines talk directly to the native socket engine |
| 21:57.32 | mlankhorst | thiago: go for it ;p |
| 21:57.50 | thiago | mlankhorst: the worst part is... it looks like I'll be the one doing it |
| 21:57.53 | mlankhorst | thiago: that kind of low level refactoring probably is not the most interesting thing to do as soc project.. |
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| 21:58.20 | thiago | yeah |
| 21:58.27 | thiago | however, for fun stuff: write demo app using QML |
| 21:58.40 | thiago | we'd get lots of submissions. And Marketing would love that. |
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| 21:59.16 | mlankhorst | too bad i have to mentor this ear ;p |
| 21:59.25 | mlankhorst | +y |
| 21:59.33 | thiago | "write a demo app that uses QML and the location API" |
| 21:59.57 | mlankhorst | what is qml ;p |
| 22:00.17 | thiago | the new UI language we've come up with |
| 22:00.26 | thiago | it's a mix of CSS and JavaScript |
| 22:00.41 | mlankhorst | EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 22:01.39 | thiago | some examples here: http://qt.nokia.com/doc/qml-snapshot/tutorial.html |
| 22:02.00 | thiago | just be glad it's not XML |
| 22:03.28 | thiago | and the advanced tutorial: http://qt.nokia.com/doc/qml-snapshot/advtutorial.html |
| 22:04.34 | thiago | here's a video of what the advanced tutorial produces: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bvm4E819UY |
| 22:06.51 | Alpounet | it's even more impressive on a N900 :-) |
| 22:08.02 | thiago | it also works good on Symbian. The N900 is a powerhouse (only the Nexus One has better hardware). |
| 22:08.32 | thiago | try ARM11 without OpenGL ES. That's challenging. |
| 22:10.38 | Alpounet | one of the tasks you'll have to handle yourself too ? heh |
| 22:11.38 | thiago | yup |
| 22:11.43 | thiago | well, others. I don't do UI. |
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