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| 00:24.46 | mamun | hi |
| 00:35.29 | nblracer | wave |
| 00:37.32 | mamun | does anyone know any gsoc project that uses c#/mono? |
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| 00:50.09 | mamun | does anyone know any gsoc project that uses c#/mono? |
| 00:50.54 | summatusmentis | if you ask six more times, maybe someone will answer you |
| 00:50.57 | blast007 | !orgsbylang |
| 00:50.57 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 00:51.04 | summatusmentis | none of the orgs have been accepted yet |
| 00:51.40 | blast007 | the 2009 list might give you some info of who *did* use C# to see if they are wanting to participate this year |
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| 00:52.13 | summatusmentis | and it's likely that if orgs have been a part of multiple previous GSoCs, that they'll participate again |
| 01:02.11 | mamun | thank you very much |
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| 12:55.23 | j4nu5 | i can code in C/C++ and Java but I have not taken part in indus-sized projects. Can anybody tell me about a good place to start |
| 12:55.40 | jmb | !orgsbylang |
| 12:55.40 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
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| 12:55.44 | jmb | try there |
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| 14:06.46 | jbourne | @Cs |
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| 14:42.39 | _Samo | could it be happen that a applying student brings on their own mentor? |
| 14:43.15 | _Samo | *could it happen |
| 14:44.53 | Chainsaw | _Samo: I've not heard of it so far. |
| 14:45.19 | Chainsaw | _Samo: We've always assigned mentors. Generally the originator of the idea that the student wrote a proposal for. |
| 14:45.40 | _Samo | ok |
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| 14:52.27 | kblin | I think this only happened for the "google" mentoring org, which is sort of a catch-all |
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| 15:33.43 | jbourne | any mentor related to networking? |
| 15:34.35 | kpreid | jbourne: mentors are specific to orgs and their projects. generally you pick an org and get to know them and their potential mentors and projects |
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| 15:34.46 | kpreid | the primary thing is *what project are you writing code for?* |
| 15:34.59 | kpreid | trying to pick people first doesn't help |
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| 16:46.55 | Arc | jbourne: I represent the People for the Ethical Treatment of Trout. I would like to remind you that trout are not weapons and using them as such only results in their death. Please, think of the trout. |
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| 22:23.48 | _Samo | who needs to have a google account? mentors, administrator and students? |
| 22:27.43 | dhaun | all of them - a Google account is required for the web app which is used to manage the program |
| 22:28.06 | _Samo | thanks |
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| 23:37.48 | jps | has gsoc ever rejected a sponsorship proposal? |
| 23:38.55 | Catfish_Man | generally speaking gsoc is the one doing the sponsoring... |
| 23:38.55 | Gamara | Define sponsorship. |
| 23:38.59 | Catfish_Man | so, not sure what you mean |
| 23:39.41 | Gamara | WE've rejected a ton of organizations who wanted to take part in the program. |
| 23:39.44 | jps | has Google ever rejected a sponsoring organization's application or refused to fill it with forthcoming applicants? |
| 23:40.03 | Gamara | There is no such thing as a sponsoring organization. |
| 23:40.12 | Gamara | Orgs don't offer money to take part. |
| 23:40.22 | Catfish_Man | There's a limited amount of money and organizational resources, so not all mentoring organizations are accepted, if that's what you're asking |
| 23:40.27 | Gamara | We have rejected projects that want to be mentors. |
| 23:40.51 | Gamara | And we have rejected mentors year to year due to performance problems. |
| 23:41.08 | Gamara | And we had one org that didn't get enough applicants that any were of high enough quality to accept. |
| 23:41.19 | jps | are there any numbers on the statistics of applicants accepted, orgs and students? |
| 23:42.27 | Gamara | We give them at our oscon talk, you can find archives there, but broad strokes: |
| 23:42.48 | Gamara | we accept 1000 students a year into approx 120 organizations |
| 23:43.19 | Gamara | Only about 1/4th of applications are accepted, depending on the org. |
| 23:43.30 | Gamara | or 1/6th if you count it differently. |
| 23:43.53 | Gamara | only 1/4 of applying organizations are accepted, due to capacity issues more than anything else. |
| 23:44.08 | jps | thanks |
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| 23:52.12 | jps | does Google match funds, or pay the students' entire summer stipend? (I checked the FAQ and http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentallocations is confusing.) How much money is a typical student summer stipend, and how much of that does the mentoring organization pay? |
| 23:52.31 | Dark_Shikari | full stipend |
| 23:52.36 | Dark_Shikari | organization doesn't pay anything, they get paid |
| 23:52.38 | Dark_Shikari | $500 per student |
| 23:52.51 | jps | $500 for the whole summer? To the student or the org? |
| 23:53.10 | Gamara | jps, you gotta read the FAQ. |
| 23:53.22 | jps | as I mentioned, I did |
| 23:53.27 | Catfish_Man | jps: 4500 to the student, 500 to the organization |
| 23:53.28 | Gamara | 5k for the student, 500 per student for the org., |
| 23:53.34 | Gamara | read it again. |
| 23:53.37 | Dark_Shikari | they raised it to 5k? |
| 23:53.41 | Gamara | Catfish_Man we upped the student. |
| 23:53.45 | Catfish_Man | oh cool |
| 23:53.47 | Gamara | Dark_Shikari yep |
| 23:53.48 | Catfish_Man | is out of date |
| 23:53.53 | Dark_Shikari | Nice. |
| 23:54.18 | Dark_Shikari | btw, has anyone else had experience with "augmenting" the student's payment? e.g. we have one project that has potentially up to $20k+ of bounties behind it |
| 23:54.27 | Dark_Shikari | and if a student is sufficiently successful, they could claim all of that |
| 23:54.53 | Gamara | IT would have to be wholly disconnected from the SoC |
| 23:54.58 | Dark_Shikari | yeah, I know |
| 23:55.14 | Gamara | So, therefore, how would we know? :-) |
| 23:55.15 | Dark_Shikari | but it could be relevant to the SOC project, right? |
| 23:55.31 | Dark_Shikari | i.e. "if you do this project, _and_ you manage to be this successful and get all this done, which might require staying around after, you can claim all of this $$$$" |
| 23:55.32 | Gamara | I'm not going to game hypotheticals. Life's too short. |
| 23:55.42 | Gamara | I'd not mix the programs. |
| 23:55.53 | Dark_Shikari | hmmph. |
| 23:56.02 | jps | Ah, I should have searched for USD instead of $. Does the "proper tax-related documentation" in http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#administrivia mean that students from any particular countries are excluded? |
| 23:56.07 | Gamara | seriously, let soc be a qualifying round or something. |
| 23:56.57 | scorche | waves to Gamara |
| 23:58.29 | Gamara | Hi |
| 23:58.30 | Gamara | :-) |
| 23:58.57 | summatusmentis | I didn't read the newest FAQ, I was also unaware the student stipend was raised |
| 23:59.01 | Gamara | jps, students from the 4 state sponsors of terrorism are the only ones who are banned. |
| 23:59.01 | summatusmentis | interesting |
| 23:59.10 | Gamara | Illegal in the us to pay em. |
| 23:59.50 | summatusmentis | it also sounds like chinese students may not be able to get to the GSoC system, but that's not an explicit ban |