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| 01:02.52 | Ori_B | yum; just made fish with a orange-cream sauce that didn't curdle :D |
| 01:05.03 | Landon | huzzah :D |
| 01:05.18 | Landon | I finally got around to getting a stovetop espresso maker so I could feed my hot cocoa addiction |
| 01:14.59 | robbyoconnor | ?!?!?! |
| 01:15.05 | Landon | !? |
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| 01:15.06 | robbyoconnor | I want coffee |
| 01:15.09 | robbyoconnor | caffiene :D |
| 01:15.11 | Ori_B | wait... espresso? cocoa? |
| 01:15.12 | Landon | baaaaaaad |
| 01:15.14 | robbyoconnor | last thing i need? |
| 01:15.18 | robbyoconnor | bounces |
| 01:15.32 | Ori_B | jiggles [yeah; I need exercise. what of it?] |
| 01:15.40 | Landon | http://www.bialettishop.com/MokaExpressMain.htm |
| 01:15.54 | Landon | got this specifically, to make http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hahndorf_Hot_Chocolate.jpg |
| 01:16.03 | Landon | of course it sure doesn't look the same! but it tastes darn good |
| 01:16.30 | Ori_B | mmm. I need to get myself an espresso machine. |
| 01:16.37 | Ori_B | I miss good capuccinos. |
| 01:16.45 | Landon | pain in the butt to clean just for one cup though :( |
| 01:17.28 | Ori_B | not that hard to clean an espresso machine. |
| 01:17.56 | Landon | well, most of my problem |
| 01:17.59 | Ori_B | the most annoying bit is the steam wand. |
| 01:18.11 | Landon | comes from the fact that 99% of the thing is metal and very hot after I pour it |
| 01:18.12 | Landon | :p |
| 01:18.17 | Ori_B | ah |
| 01:18.19 | Landon | so I have to remember to come back later after it's cooled a bit |
| 01:18.27 | Landon | but while it's still warm enough that nothings stuck |
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| 02:57.52 | dberkholz | i used to drink those |
| 02:58.04 | dberkholz | then i discovered that plain coffee + splenda has a few hundred less calories |
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| 03:11.05 | robbyoconnor | splenda++ |
| 03:11.15 | robbyoconnor | although, the way it "fizzes" erks me |
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| 04:54.57 | cloud | Can anybody tell me when do we start applying for gsoc as students |
| 04:55.16 | Ori_B | when the announcement goes up |
| 04:55.22 | Ori_B | probably in 2 or 3 weeks, at a guess |
| 04:55.28 | SukhE | !timeline |
| 04:55.29 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline |
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| 14:34.19 | anirvana | hi, can a mentor participate more than once in gsoc? |
| 14:35.13 | ojwb | anirvana: in the same year you mean? |
| 14:35.36 | anirvana | no, i meant in the subsequent years. |
| 14:35.43 | ojwb | certainly |
| 14:36.05 | ojwb | previous experience is likely to mean they do a better job |
| 14:36.21 | anirvana | ok ok |
| 14:36.32 | ojwb | and a growing number of students have mentored in subsequent years too |
| 14:36.51 | anirvana | alright :) |
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| 15:38.23 | rafael-ec | Hi, anyone around? |
| 15:41.24 | kblin | nobody around but us chickens |
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| 15:47.04 | rafael-ec | Does a project that an student should develop. Must be a new functionality or a new module? Could be an improvement from a previous module? |
| 15:47.18 | rafael-ec | BTW, we Elastix project are willing to participate: www.elastix.org |
| 15:47.23 | araujo | rafael-ec, sure |
| 15:47.32 | Jeff_S | rafael-ec: can be whatever... |
| 15:47.49 | araujo | improvement/new feature , as long as it involves coding :) |
| 15:47.51 | araujo | hola Jeff_S ! |
| 15:48.07 | Jeff_S | araujo: buen dia |
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| 15:48.27 | araujo | Jeff_S, how it goes? :) |
| 15:48.38 | Jeff_S | araujo: still waking up monday morning... |
| 15:48.46 | araujo | hehe |
| 15:48.47 | rafael-ec | Jeff_S thanks / gracias :) |
| 15:49.06 | Jeff_S | rafael-ec: no problem |
| 15:53.16 | anirvana | hi |
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| 15:54.08 | anirvana | Can i work on a project, which i am already working in? |
| 15:55.48 | kblin | !faq |
| 15:55.49 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs |
| 15:56.00 | kblin | anirvana: should be covered there |
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| 15:57.04 | anirvana | FAQ says it's possible, but can anyone tell me whether it's a good idea to do an ongoing project? |
| 15:57.24 | araujo | why that wouldn't be good idea? |
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| 15:58.07 | anirvana | Some organization might be interested in fresh ideas |
| 15:59.14 | araujo | mmm |
| 15:59.25 | anirvana | Moreover can i do some project which has already been selected in previous year's gsoc but couldn't be completed or succeeded ? |
| 15:59.36 | araujo | you are talking from a student or a mentor perspective? |
| 15:59.46 | anirvana | student's perspective |
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| 16:00.02 | summatusmentis | generally if the org is ok with it, yes |
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| 16:00.54 | araujo | anirvana, organizations usually have a list of important tasks for them , fresh ideas are always welcome too for sure |
| 16:01.32 | anirvana | aha :) |
| 16:02.22 | kblin | anirvana: speaking with my mentor hat on, selection criteria are usually "is this useful? is this doable in three months? do I think the student can pull it off?" |
| 16:02.30 | kblin | in that order, more or less |
| 16:02.38 | araujo | so, it is really up to the organizations , if they consider better new fresh ideas or existing needed tasks |
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| 16:03.31 | anirvana | alright |
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| 16:06.17 | kblin | anirvana: google places very few restrictions on what a project proposal should look like, apart from the "needs to be a coding project" one |
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| 16:08.24 | anirvana | ok |
| 16:09.09 | kblin | that said, I know there's some mentoring orgs that prefer new applicants over people who contributed before and the other way around |
| 16:09.15 | kblin | so talk to your org |
| 16:09.27 | kblin | which is probably the best tip in any case |
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| 16:10.37 | lut4rp | anirvana, yes, its certainly possible. |
| 16:10.51 | lut4rp | My GSoC project last year was something I was already maintaining for some months |
| 16:11.28 | anirvana | lut4rp,may i know which organization was it under? |
| 16:11.33 | lut4rp | anirvana, Drupal |
| 16:14.44 | anirvana | ok thanks |
| 16:15.44 | araujo | (if you have been around for a while cooperating with an organization already that is also a good plus) |
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| 16:20.26 | anirvana | araunjo, yeah i have been cooperating with this organization but haven't made anything as yet |
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| 16:21.06 | araujo | anirvana, ? |
| 16:21.41 | anirvana | I meant yes i have been invloved in some organization for a while |
| 16:21.57 | araujo | that is good |
| 16:22.44 | anirvana | ok |
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| 17:42.31 | MatthewWilkes | afternoon all! |
| 17:42.51 | kblin | hey MatthewWilkes |
| 17:43.13 | Landon | heya everybody! |
| 17:43.35 | kblin | waves at Landon |
| 17:43.58 | skbohra | heya |
| 17:44.19 | Ori_B | afternoon MatthewWilkes |
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| 17:45.31 | MatthewWilkes | For anyone in the UK - http://www.sroaudiences.com/ |
| 17:45.37 | MatthewWilkes | IT Crowd audience ticketing |
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| 17:46.37 | adifire | yawns.......... |
| 17:46.45 | Landon | MatthewWilkes: :o |
| 17:46.49 | Landon | s4 time? |
| 17:47.01 | Landon | is glad |
| 17:47.08 | Landon | almost out of episodes to watch at movie night |
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| 17:51.00 | MatthewWilkes | Landon: Yup! Recording in March and April, just signed up |
| 17:51.21 | Landon | heh :D |
| 17:51.34 | Landon | apparently it's much funnier than big bang theory to my friends because moss reminds them of me :\ |
| 17:52.56 | MatthewWilkes | I think I have a good chance of getting them. I put in the application that it's for the table of CS graduates that go to a well known new material night in bristol every week for 4 years |
| 17:53.14 | Landon | :P |
| 17:53.24 | Ori_B | has to take more showers. so many ideas pop into my head when I'm showering. |
| 17:53.26 | Landon | I wish I wasn't on the wrong side of the pond |
| 17:53.37 | Landon | Ori_B: waterproof notebook/pencil too |
| 17:54.05 | Ori_B | lipstick and tiles on the side of the shower? |
| 17:54.07 | Ori_B | :P |
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| 18:12.06 | gc_ | lh:can you help me how to write the application |
| 18:12.07 | gc_ | ? |
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| 18:14.29 | MatthewWilkes | spectie: Dydd Gwyl Dewi Hapus! |
| 18:14.38 | skbohra | gc_: i dont think so |
| 18:15.20 | skbohra | gc_: try asking the org you are interested in |
| 18:15.28 | vptr | hi, are there mentors/members of any organizations which plan to participate in gsoc 2010? |
| 18:15.31 | gc_ | skbohra:hmm |
| 18:15.37 | vptr | in this chat room :) |
| 18:15.57 | MatthewWilkes | vptr: Yeah, quite a few I'd guess. I plan to apply. |
| 18:16.08 | gc_ | skbohra: I am interested in programs development using c & c++ languag |
| 18:16.20 | vptr | MatthewWilkes: which company are you going to represent? |
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| 18:16.40 | skbohra | gc_: cool |
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| 18:16.43 | MatthewWilkes | vptr: I'm applying on behalf of the Plone Foundation |
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| 18:16.44 | spectie | MatthewWilkes, :D |
| 18:16.56 | gc_ | skbohra:but I don't have extensive knowledge in either |
| 18:17.12 | David_Honeynet | vptr: The Honeynet Project will be applying (http://www.honeynet.org/gsoc, last year's page still) |
| 18:17.13 | gc_ | skbohra: can you suggest me , what should I do |
| 18:17.40 | vptr | Honeynet, awesome :)) |
| 18:17.42 | gc_ | skbohra: what will be the kind of programs I will nedd to make there ,? |
| 18:18.21 | gc_ | skbohra:actually I want to know the extent of knowledge I will nedd to be succesfull |
| 18:18.35 | gc_ | skbohra: *nedd=need |
| 18:18.47 | gc_ | skbohra: can you please help me? |
| 18:19.02 | skbohra | gc_: i am not much into either |
| 18:19.26 | skbohra | but i am sure many other folks here are |
| 18:19.39 | vptr | David_Honeynet: who should I contact in order to get more details about honeynet plans? |
| 18:19.57 | gc_ | skbohra:I am interested in web development , but my first preference is for c & c++ language |
| 18:20.20 | skbohra | gc_: ok |
| 18:20.35 | David_Honeynet | vptr: you can join #gsoc-honeynet, usually people around although it may take a while to respond until GSoC ramps up, or email project@honeynet.org |
| 18:20.51 | David_Honeynet | we'll update our website with our GSoC 2010 application later this week |
| 18:21.08 | gc_ | skbohra:what is the selection criteria for gsoc taken into consideration by the mentors? |
| 18:21.31 | vptr | because I am interested in reverse engineering( I did some small work already at my college), and I'd like to continue walking this path |
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| 18:22.13 | David_Honeynet | vptr: get in touch if there is something you are particularly interest in working on then... |
| 18:23.56 | vptr | David_Honeynet: i did some malware analysis, basically automated unpacking with dynamic binary instrumentation, but i don't know how this can apply to honeynet |
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| 18:28.27 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, hi, I would like to know more about Plone foundation, and how do i get involved.. |
| 18:29.23 | maheshGondi940 | hi , i want to know organisations related to flex or air . |
| 18:29.48 | skbohra | maheshGondi940: none iirc |
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| 18:30.20 | MatthewWilkes | adifire: On the phone right now, gimme a few mins? |
| 18:30.31 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, sure.. :) |
| 18:30.50 | MatthewWilkes | t-mobile tech support :) |
| 18:30.53 | David_Honeynet | vptr: we do plenty of that type of thing, so we may have some GSoC 2010 projects that appeal (or you are also free to propose something) |
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| 18:34.37 | spectie | MAheSHGondi778, gnu flex ? |
| 18:34.51 | MAheSHGondi778 | nope adobe flex |
| 18:34.53 | spectie | oh |
| 18:37.51 | MAheSHGondi778 | do you think there will good number of oragnisations with flex in their minds ? |
| 18:38.03 | MAheSHGondi778 | last ther was only one[joomla] |
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| 18:38.17 | MAheSHGondi778 | last year there was only one |
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| 18:44.40 | skbohra | MAheSHGondi778: you have to wait until org list is declared |
| 18:45.18 | MAheSHGondi778 | kk thnks |
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| 19:02.11 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, hello? |
| 19:02.44 | MatthewWilkes | adifire: Sorry, I'm now through to their network engineers and we're comparing logfiles |
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| 19:03.40 | MatthewWilkes | I'm getting DoSed by MMS messages |
| 19:03.41 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, ok....have a nice day then... ) |
| 19:03.41 | adifire | :) |
| 19:03.44 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, well..that's a nightmare! |
| 19:03.48 | MatthewWilkes | adifire: Do you know Plone at all? |
| 19:03.54 | MatthewWilkes | i.e. have you used it? |
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| 19:04.12 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, no... |
| 19:04.40 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, i have tried few cms.. but not plone.. |
| 19:05.08 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, i know python.. and i'm glad to know there's cms written in it.. |
| 19:05.20 | MatthewWilkes | adifire: What sort of things are you interested in? (On hold atm :) |
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| 19:06.12 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, Anythin... did web programming.. asp.net and jsp.. so know html js... also learnt python... |
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| 19:07.31 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, so i'm up for anything... |
| 19:07.42 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, :) |
| 19:11.56 | MatthewWilkes | adifire: Right, back, sorry |
| 19:12.13 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, np... :) |
| 19:12.29 | MatthewWilkes | adifire: Well, take a look at our ideas list from last year http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/user/matthewwilkes/pil2009 |
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| 19:13.02 | MatthewWilkes | adifire: It will need changing a little for this year, but do any of those sounds more interesting than others? That'd be a good starting point for coming up with an idea |
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| 19:22.51 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, offline mode has been added to plone yet? |
| 19:24.16 | MatthewWilkes | adifire: The google gears/html5 thing? Nope! |
| 19:24.43 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, actually html5 can be made use of to get offline mode working right? |
| 19:25.38 | MatthewWilkes | Yep |
| 19:25.52 | MatthewWilkes | Which is even better than using gears |
| 19:26.13 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, I can try that out... google is phasing out gears anyways.. |
| 19:26.36 | adifire | cuz i'm also a victim of slow net connection! |
| 19:26.45 | adifire | :) |
| 19:26.57 | MatthewWilkes | That'd certainly be something we'd be interested in |
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| 19:27.35 | adifire | MatthewWilkes, so to start with i would hav to look into the plone source? |
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| 19:29.04 | MatthewWilkes | adifire: Well, a good way of starting is to have a play with Plone |
| 19:29.24 | MatthewWilkes | adifire: Actually, join #plone-soc |
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| 20:28.56 | dan4dm | hi, gsoc form (for mentor organisations) not avail yet, but it'd be v helpful to know what boxes/questions are in the form. any info online? |
| 20:29.12 | gc_ | arun:can you help me? |
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| 23:05.30 | MatthewWilkes | hmm, interesting. Apparently tomorrow is the best surfing day of the year for the severn bore |
| 23:05.49 | MatthewWilkes | Can't see why anyone would want to be in a somerset river at 9am, myself |
| 23:05.55 | Landon | >.> because of tsunamis? |
| 23:06.01 | Landon | or are those all over now |
| 23:06.23 | Landon | and in the wrong ocean |
| 23:07.43 | MatthewWilkes | Due to the general weather conditions |
| 23:07.56 | MatthewWilkes | and the fact there's a 10.3m tide tomorrow |
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| 23:09.25 | MatthewWilkes | It's a really powerful flow there, they're considering setting up a hydroelectric barrage as it'd provide 5% of the UK's energy requirement |
| 23:09.38 | MatthewWilkes | (an idea they stole from hitler, amusingly) |
| 23:09.41 | Landon | heh |
| 23:09.42 | Landon | interesting |
| 23:09.55 | Landon | I think one of the example research papers for my tech writing class mentioned that |
| 23:10.13 | Landon | didn't realize it was connected to the river |
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| 23:12.21 | MatthewWilkes | yeah, the bore is a tidal wave (in the true sense) |
| 23:12.37 | MatthewWilkes | So the opposition to the plan is coming from surfers |
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| 23:12.58 | Landon | heh :P |
| 23:16.30 | MatthewWilkes | Landon: The bottom photo on http://www.severn-bore.co.uk/photos_4.htm is good |
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| 23:17.01 | Landon | quite exciting |
| 23:17.15 | Landon | my only experience with rivers is one that is less than a foot deep most places :p |
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