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| 00:47.49 | gigasoft1 | is fair to add comments about my proposal after submitting it, in the way so you make it more clear? |
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| 00:48.58 | anth_x | sure, that's encouraged. |
| 00:49.18 | gigasoft1 | thanks |
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| 01:36.15 | dberkholz | is it visible to students if you unassign a mentor? |
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| 01:37.59 | dberkholz | skbohra: when you visit your proposal page, do you see a mentor's name listed at the top? |
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| 03:34.19 | Ionic_Groove | oh ok |
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| 04:50.21 | robbyoconnor | *BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP* |
| 04:51.01 | Sanshaptak | is there any way to know how much favorable reviews you have got for your proposal ? |
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| 04:52.56 | Sanshaptak | anyone ? |
| 04:53.50 | jkwood | If you ask the mentoring organization yes. I don't recommend it, though. |
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| 04:57.07 | Sanshaptak | the thing is that i had applied for an internship somewhere else and they are asking for confirmation before 22nd of April |
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| 04:57.28 | Sanshaptak | i am in a dilemma |
| 04:57.43 | Sanshaptak | please suggest something |
| 04:58.50 | anth_x | there isn't a reliable way of getting the info you're after. |
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| 04:59.30 | Sanshaptak | that's why i am asking |
| 04:59.52 | skbohra | ask you org, stating your problem |
| 04:59.56 | skbohra | may be they can help |
| 05:00.01 | jkwood | I'd suggest you get hold of your mentoring org and explain the situation. They probably can't tell you a definite yes, but they may be able to give a definite no. |
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| 05:01.01 | jkwood | Having dealt with this kind of thing myself, I know that I wouldn't leave someone hanging in this kind of situation. |
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| 05:02.17 | Dark_Shikari | talk to people. really. they can help you =p |
| 05:03.38 | Sanshaptak | are the final decisions for a proposal taken by the mentoring organization ? |
| 05:03.46 | Dark_Shikari | yes |
| 05:04.14 | Sanshaptak | @Dark_Shikari me think i was not talking to bots :P |
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| 05:08.03 | robbyoconnor | people who can't figure this stuff out... |
| 05:08.09 | robbyoconnor | make yourself known! |
| 05:08.28 | sanjoyd | robbyoconnor, which stuff? |
| 05:08.41 | robbyoconnor | "How do i find out if my application is a favorable one" |
| 05:08.44 | robbyoconnor | gee I wonder. |
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| 05:16.00 | ojwb | robbyoconnor: easy - just submit a patch to melange... |
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| 05:16.26 | robbyoconnor | ojwb: the spy patch? :) |
| 05:17.43 | tontoto | the eye patch |
| 05:19.06 | ojwb | tontoto: zing! |
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| 05:31.04 | sarav1919 | hi all |
| 05:31.07 | sarav1919 | i got few public reviews |
| 05:31.17 | coppro | it's okay |
| 05:32.19 | ojwb | sarav1919: that may mean your proposal is great, or very poor, or that the org is just busy |
| 05:32.24 | sarav1919 | in my proposal i said mentor's directionwould be needed for project milestones |
| 05:32.33 | ojwb | be sure to respond to anything you have been asked |
| 05:32.44 | sarav1919 | so i got the proj. milestones |
| 05:32.56 | sarav1919 | oh, ok. |
| 05:32.56 | sarav1919 | how do i respond? |
| 05:33.02 | sarav1919 | with comments? |
| 05:33.03 | ojwb | add a comment |
| 05:33.06 | sarav1919 | or via mail to mentors? |
| 05:33.22 | eocampos | sarav1919: what did you propose? |
| 05:33.23 | robbyoconnor | sarav1919: that's one thing they DONT want |
| 05:33.23 | ojwb | if you were asked in a comment, reply in a comment I'd say |
| 05:33.30 | robbyoconnor | constantly having to direct you |
| 05:33.56 | robbyoconnor | my mentor had to help me a lot in the beginning but in the end I was able to do it on my own |
| 05:34.19 | robbyoconnor | most of his help centered around understanding what the components of his design were intended to be |
| 05:34.38 | sarav1919 | they asked links for the projects i have specified |
| 05:35.06 | sarav1919 | i have the code in my local system. |
| 05:35.16 | robbyoconnor | so throw it up on gitub |
| 05:35.19 | sarav1919 | and moreover the project i worked was for another company |
| 05:35.20 | robbyoconnor | github* |
| 05:35.22 | sarav1919 | as an intern |
| 05:35.31 | robbyoconnor | are you allowed to distribute that code? |
| 05:35.33 | ojwb | you can at least talk about it |
| 05:35.49 | robbyoconnor | Say, "I can't give you the code, but I can explain it to you if need be" |
| 05:35.51 | sarav1919 | in the comments itself right? |
| 05:35.54 | ojwb | the issue is that the org want to know what your abilities and aptitudes are |
| 05:35.56 | robbyoconnor | sarav1919: yes |
| 05:36.06 | sarav1919 | ok :) |
| 05:36.14 | robbyoconnor | the last thing they want is a guy who can't code |
| 05:36.23 | sarav1919 | and |
| 05:36.27 | robbyoconnor | or a guy who's gonna die under the pressure |
| 05:36.32 | ojwb | they generally have no idea who most applicants are, so the better a job you can do with making them familiar with you, the better |
| 05:37.03 | ojwb | robbyoconnor: I think the last thing they want is either of those *without knowing it may be an issue* |
| 05:37.56 | ojwb | "can't code" is going to be a problem, but someone without much coding background may be viable if paired with a suitable mentor |
| 05:37.56 | robbyoconnor | I gave them my code |
| 05:38.04 | ojwb | and doing a suitable project |
| 05:38.30 | ojwb | if they try to implement something large and difficult with a busy and impatient mentor that's bound to fail |
| 05:38.59 | robbyoconnor | wiki pages and documentation for my last soc project and told them my first soc project was never finished but they asked me to reflect on WHY it failed |
| 05:39.07 | sarav1919 | robbyoconnor, you put the code online or ?? |
| 05:39.21 | robbyoconnor | sarav1919: my project was developed in the open... |
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| 05:40.10 | qrng | Good morning. |
| 05:40.11 | sarav1919 | ok, wat abt the code robbyoconnor |
| 05:40.27 | sarav1919 | cos most of my projects are all |
| 05:40.34 | robbyoconnor | http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs-modules/facilitydata |
| 05:40.49 | robbyoconnor | http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs-modules/facilitydata/branches/1.5.x |
| 05:40.49 | sarav1919 | linux disrto projects |
| 05:41.21 | sarav1919 | so i need to upload the isos that are little heavy to push online |
| 05:41.33 | robbyoconnor | code samples then. |
| 05:41.37 | robbyoconnor | they wanna see what you can do |
| 05:42.00 | sarav1919 | an is that fine to |
| 05:42.00 | sarav1919 | say that i have all the code locally |
| 05:42.05 | sarav1919 | an i shall explain and share the code if they need. |
| 05:43.07 | sarav1919 | ??? |
| 05:43.07 | sarav1919 | ok. great |
| 05:43.07 | sarav1919 | so its better to push them online right? |
| 05:43.42 | sarav1919 | for pase 4 days i havnt replied to those public revirews |
| 05:43.43 | sarav1919 | is that ok? |
| 05:43.43 | sarav1919 | for past 4 days i havnt replied to those public revirews |
| 05:43.43 | sarav1919 | is that ok? |
| 05:44.20 | skbohra | sarav1919: :) |
| 05:44.51 | kusum | sarav1919: atleast post you will reply in detail soon |
| 05:45.09 | sarav1919 | hi |
| 05:45.19 | kusum | atleast post " you will reply in detail soon " |
| 05:45.25 | kusum | skbohra: Hi |
| 05:45.37 | skbohra | Hi |
| 05:46.17 | robbyoconnor | sarav1919: better yet: hop on their irc channel and talk live! |
| 05:48.42 | ojwb | sarav1919: not replying to direct questions in comment isn't a good sign to potential mentors |
| 05:48.54 | ojwb | I really don't want to have to chase a student for answers for 3 months |
| 05:49.11 | ojwb | so get on and respond |
| 05:49.40 | ojwb | you don't have much time either |
| 05:49.44 | robbyoconnor | my mentor expressed concern when i didnt talk to him for a couple weeks lol |
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| 05:50.08 | ojwb | with some orgs, that would be an automatic fail I believe |
| 05:50.11 | ritek | lol |
| 05:52.21 | robbyoconnor | ojwb: nah I was working |
| 05:52.48 | ojwb | ojwb: I mean for simply not communicating for so long |
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| 05:53.11 | robbyoconnor | ojwb: lol I tried to not pester him lol |
| 05:53.55 | robbyoconnor | when he emailed me I responded immediately lol |
| 05:54.30 | robbyoconnor | he wasn't gonna fail me -- he saw my work (we have a list which sends all svn commits to a mailing list) |
| 05:54.42 | robbyoconnor | complete w/ diffs |
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| 05:57.14 | pygi | robbyoconnor, which org? :) |
| 05:57.25 | robbyoconnor | OpenMRS |
| 05:57.53 | robbyoconnor | pygi: there wasn't a lot of progress in the first half of the program but he passed because he saw that I was trying REALLY hard |
| 05:58.10 | pygi | robbyoconnor, ah, java! |
| 05:59.33 | pygi | robbyoconnor, I was actually failed last year because I didnt communicate enough, but delivered 99% of what I needed and then some more functionality |
| 05:59.47 | robbyoconnor | ouch |
| 06:00.46 | pygi | but its ok - I don't care *too* much, it was just a nice experience |
| 06:00.55 | pygi | it just wasn't a* |
| 06:00.56 | pygi | damn |
| 06:00.57 | pygi | :D |
| 06:01.53 | kblin | communication skills are at least as important as coding skills, as far as I am concerned |
| 06:02.33 | pygi | kblin, I can communicate well enough - its just that if I don't need help, why would I ask for anything? |
| 06:02.53 | pygi | but I reckon I might have been pushing it too much :) |
| 06:03.10 | dmj726_n900 | what org? |
| 06:03.20 | pygi | py |
| 06:03.58 | pygi | not writing regular reports was part of the problem I'd say :p |
| 06:03.59 | kblin | pygi: well, most of my orgs require weekly reports |
| 06:04.06 | kblin | yeah |
| 06:04.27 | pygi | kblin, I know, even I required them back in time when I was a mentor |
| 06:05.02 | dmj726_n900 | yeah...gnome requires reports weekly. |
| 06:05.04 | qrng | pygi: You should state that everything goes well, it is also vital to show your progress if everything goes well. |
| 06:05.20 | pygi | dmj726_n900, most,if not all do :) |
| 06:05.29 | pygi | qrng, repository shows progress :P |
| 06:05.32 | pygi | but I know, don't worry :D |
| 06:05.33 | qrng | As far as mentor is concerned, if (s)he does not hear anything from you, nothing is happening. |
| 06:06.07 | pygi | I've been a mentor before being student in here few years ago, and I lead a few projects myself, so its not like I'm actually *that* useless :P |
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| 06:06.11 | dmj726_n900 | reports are pretty quick to do so... |
| 06:06.29 | pygi | dmj726_n900, you're with gnome? |
| 06:06.56 | dmj726_n900 | was a student ingsoc with them last year |
| 06:07.06 | pygi | ah! nice, what project? |
| 06:07.22 | dmj726_n900 | gnome shell |
| 06:07.50 | pygi | ah |
| 06:07.51 | pygi | shell |
| 06:08.04 | dmj726_n900 | I@applied this year to maemo and gnome |
| 06:08.16 | pygi | what project for with gnome? |
| 06:08.25 | dmj726_n900 | a11y |
| 06:08.29 | pygi | aha |
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| 06:08.34 | pygi | I applied for a dropbox replacement |
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| 06:09.06 | dmj726_n900 | it's the same app...using gnome tech to make the nokia n900 read printed documents aloud. |
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| 06:10.15 | pygi | ah |
| 06:11.45 | ajuonline | shoots pygi |
| 06:12.29 | qrng | Shoots on pygi? |
| 06:13.25 | pygi | ajuonline, hehe |
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| 07:13.48 | anirvana | yes |
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| 08:31.38 | yonij | some one died...oh i forgot ..the bot died |
| 08:31.44 | yonij | !numapps |
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| 08:41.19 | x` | good morning |
| 08:41.28 | mayanks43 | gud afternoon |
| 08:41.57 | x` | how is everybody doing? |
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| 08:45.11 | YuviPanda | is cranking out some prototype code related to his proposal |
| 08:46.47 | movicont | yuvipanda, awesome ;) |
| 08:47.22 | YuviPanda | movicont: :D |
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| 09:06.11 | mlankhorst | heu! |
| 09:07.23 | Ivanovic | mlankhorst: why do greet saying the german word for hay? |
| 09:07.48 | mlankhorst | because it's shorter than goedendag mevrouw smith |
| 09:07.49 | kai | hi carols |
| 09:07.53 | carols | hey kai |
| 09:07.58 | carols | crazy day today |
| 09:08.10 | Ivanovic | carols: why? |
| 09:08.10 | kai | carols: trying to fly back home? :) |
| 09:08.16 | Ivanovic | just because of the volcano ash? |
| 09:08.30 | carols | Ivanovic: trying to figure out if the three melange developers i'm hosting are going to be able to get home :-) |
| 09:08.38 | carols | kai: no, not me. but the melange guys |
| 09:08.51 | Ivanovic | carols: if they leave by plane: most likely no |
| 09:08.55 | kai | ah, sounds fun |
| 09:09.04 | carols | Ivanovic: yes, this is why its a crazy day :-) |
| 09:09.04 | Chainsaw | Ivanovic: It takes very long on a boat... |
| 09:09.30 | Chainsaw | carols: There's word of UK airspace remaining closed until 2pm BST tomorrow. |
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| 09:09.40 | Ivanovic | currently it sounds like airtraffic in the northern half of europe (which includes all of belgium and the netherlands, as well as most of germany) there is basically no plane flying |
| 09:10.00 | carols | Chainsaw: yeah, i've heard that too. we're in the netherlands and schipol is closed entirely |
| 09:10.04 | Chainsaw | carols: Otherwise I'd have recommended getting them to Ireland (Shannon/Dublin) or Heathrow/Stansted and then using Eurostar from there. |
| 09:10.07 | Ivanovic | that is: even in the south of germany they already have problems and it sounds as if even munich airport might be closed |
| 09:10.12 | Ivanovic | so, looking really bad... |
| 09:10.15 | carols | yep. |
| 09:10.18 | carols | crazy day. |
| 09:10.21 | kai | yeah, the local airspace will shut down for two hours starting in 50 minutes |
| 09:10.25 | Chainsaw | carols: Ah, NL. Sorry, assumed Mountainview->Germany. |
| 09:10.48 | carols | Chainsaw: normally this would be a safe assumption, but i'm working with the melange guys in delft right now |
| 09:10.53 | Ivanovic | Chainsaw: in fact all of the british islands are closed off, too |
| 09:10.54 | kai | local being south-west germany |
| 09:11.05 | Chainsaw | carols: Ah, it's a nice city. Take some blue pottery :) |
| 09:11.20 | Chainsaw | Ivanovic: Yeah, until tomorrow afternoon. |
| 09:11.29 | carols | Chainsaw: thinking about just taking a day off actually :-) |
| 09:11.35 | Chainsaw | Ivanovic: There was a lone RyanAir up over Ireland when we already shut though. |
| 09:11.51 | Chainsaw | carols: Best idea I've heard so far. No stress :) |
| 09:12.16 | kai | carols: give them sodas, food, power and network and they'll continue hacking on melange |
| 09:12.20 | carols | Chainsaw: only problem is I still have to do slot allocations and police the student discuss list :-) |
| 09:12.23 | kai | sounds like a win-win scenario |
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| 09:12.49 | Chainsaw | carols: You could turn the list off for a day ;) |
| 09:12.57 | Ivanovic | carols: from what i heard the netherlands got internet |
| 09:12.58 | carols | Chainsaw: don't I wish :-) |
| 09:13.08 | Ivanovic | carols: so the policeing should be possible |
| 09:13.17 | carols | Ivanovic: yeah, we've actually got really fast internet here near the university |
| 09:13.23 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 09:13.23 | Chainsaw | Ivanovic: Policing mailing lists and taking a day off are mutually exclusive though. There's the problem you see :) |
| 09:13.32 | Ivanovic | Chainsaw: that is correct |
| 09:13.50 | Ivanovic | Chainsaw: though you could set the list to "moderated" and auto decline every mail |
| 09:13.59 | Ivanovic | Chainsaw: a clear case of strict policing |
| 09:14.02 | Ivanovic | ^^ |
| 09:14.14 | kai | blame it on volcano eruptions |
| 09:14.23 | kai | BOFH excuse of the day ;) |
| 09:14.26 | Chainsaw | kai: That does seem to be what everyone else is doing, yeah :D |
| 09:14.47 | Ivanovic | kai: nah, that one is boring |
| 09:14.49 | Chainsaw | kai: Well, truth be said they just said "signalling problems". My train's now finally moving but will make extra stops. |
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| 09:15.13 | kai | "The mailing list is shut down to prevent electrostatic backscatter from volcano ash from the Iceland eruption" |
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| 09:15.27 | Ivanovic | kai: nah, wrong |
| 09:15.41 | carols | next time i need to blame something on sunspots i'm going to blame it on volcanic ash instead |
| 09:15.43 | Lennie | Kai |
| 09:15.47 | Lennie | found a star image yet for us :)? |
| 09:16.02 | kai | Lennie: can I submit one without signing the CLA? |
| 09:16.23 | Ivanovic | "The mailling list is shut down to prevent further disruptions of air traffic due to quantum effects coupled with the volcano ash from the Iceland eruption" |
| 09:17.01 | Ivanovic | yes, the butterfly effect was yesterday |
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| 09:17.18 | Ivanovic | real hacker use the quantum effect that mails to a gsoc list has on volcano ash! |
| 09:17.38 | thebolt | Hi everyone |
| 09:17.47 | kai | hm, I wonder how I can actually print to that stupid server.. |
| 09:18.04 | kai | it looks like it does plain PCL5c, but has some sort of access control |
| 09:18.11 | Ivanovic | which one? the volcano in iceland? |
| 09:18.26 | Ivanovic | i thought this was natural and not a server... |
| 09:18.28 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 09:18.40 | kai | no, the konica minolta c350 server two rooms to my right |
| 09:18.50 | kai | s/server/printer/ |
| 09:18.52 | Ivanovic | not possible |
| 09:18.58 | Ivanovic | you are to close to the printer to use it |
| 09:19.31 | kai | works if I reboo |
| 09:19.32 | kai | t |
| 09:19.34 | Chainsaw | Ivanovic: It enforces good health by making you walk to the one on the other side of the building. Clever :) |
| 09:19.49 | Ivanovic | Chainsaw: exactly |
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| 09:20.01 | thebolt | heh, i just heard about someone joking on TV here that the iceland eruption was their way at getting back on the international financial system ;) |
| 09:20.15 | Ivanovic | thebolt: this explains a lot... |
| 09:20.34 | Ivanovic | and i already feared that it was somehow connected to the open pandora project |
| 09:20.40 | thebolt | hehe |
| 09:20.45 | Ivanovic | that they need another good reason for further delays |
| 09:20.56 | Ivanovic | and that EvilDragon now provides that reason |
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| 09:21.23 | kai | hehe |
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| 09:23.33 | ojwb | melange has a CLA? |
| 09:23.47 | kai | yeah |
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| 09:24.12 | kai | which is kind of annoying if you want to contribute a quick patch |
| 09:24.26 | ojwb | dear me |
| 09:24.44 | ojwb | that rather blunts the "then submit a patch" response to complaints |
| 09:25.07 | Lennie | just sign it |
| 09:25.11 | ojwb | getting your employer to sign can be significant work |
| 09:25.20 | Lennie | you would have to sign it for any google contributions anyway :p |
| 09:25.34 | kai | so? |
| 09:25.40 | kai | I don't work on google projectz |
| 09:25.49 | kai | projects |
| 09:26.00 | kai | goes to grab a coffee |
| 09:28.19 | kai | ojwb: http://code.google.com/legal/individual-cla-v1.0.html |
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| 09:33.00 | qrng | Errr... Could you elaborate why one should get employer's signature? |
| 09:33.02 | qrng | What for? |
| 09:34.51 | ojwb | qrng: if you are employed as a programmer, your employer may have a claim on any code you write, even in your spare time |
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| 09:43.25 | thebolt | ojwb: that wouldn't fly here though, unless they can show you are compensated for all your time.. |
| 09:45.02 | ojwb | thebolt: probably "may think they have a claim" is more accurate, but it probably varies by jurisdiction |
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| 09:45.13 | ojwb | but that's what employer CLAs are worrying about |
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| 10:01.35 | qrng | ojwb: This idea is ludicrous. |
| 10:01.59 | qrng | Whatever I do in my spare time is absolutely my business. Private business! |
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| 10:03.08 | thebolt | qrng: well, that is not the way it works with some employers in some locations.. |
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| 10:07.20 | qrng | Quel dommage. |
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| 10:11.36 | ojwb | qrng: clearly it should be, but some employers have different ideas |
| 10:11.46 | ojwb | I've seen such clauses in contracts I've been asked to sign |
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| 11:01.26 | mlankhorst | why do people want you to download programs to fill a screen with reg/green/blue/white/black instead of linking to a simple <html><body bgcolor=...></body></body> :S |
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| 11:40.05 | kai | man, printing really, really sucks :) |
| 11:40.16 | tobier | kai: indeed |
| 11:42.58 | Lennie | having a meeting in Holland and than not being able to go home sucks more :P |
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| 11:45.51 | tobier | Lennie: ah right, because of the whole ash cloud thing? |
| 11:45.57 | Lennie | yosh |
| 11:45.58 | kai | where do the other devs need to get to? |
| 11:46.02 | Ivanovic | Lennie: try driving in a car or by train |
| 11:46.06 | Lennie | well |
| 11:46.10 | Lennie | we might put a few of them on a train |
| 11:46.18 | Lennie | but Bangladesh is hard :P |
| 11:46.22 | tobier | apparently, the cloud wil hit sweden today |
| 11:46.28 | tobier | see how that goes ^^ |
| 11:46.28 | Lennie | with train |
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| 11:46.35 | Ivanovic | right, bangladesh is a little more challenging |
| 11:46.35 | Lennie | anyway |
| 11:46.41 | Lennie | no flights out of here till 6 AM tomorrow |
| 11:46.45 | Lennie | no flights in either |
| 11:46.47 | Ivanovic | get them over to madrid or rome and let them fly from there... |
| 11:46.51 | Lennie | airspace is closed :( |
| 11:46.57 | kai | south-west germany upper airspace is closed as well |
| 11:47.12 | kai | so italy might be a better option than spain |
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| 11:47.20 | Ivanovic | i know that nuernberg is already closed, too |
| 11:47.29 | Lennie | hi danderson |
| 11:47.31 | tobier | or just chill in holland :) |
| 11:47.36 | danderson | hi |
| 11:47.37 | Ivanovic | not sure if munich is still open or about to be closed, too |
| 11:47.40 | Lennie | if you cant chill buy weed :P? |
| 11:47.46 | danderson | restoring socinfo, finally. |
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| 11:47.51 | Lennie | danderson: +1 |
| 11:47.53 | tobier | Lennie: if that makes you happy, do it |
| 11:48.01 | Lennie | tobier: Well I'm dutch, so I dont need it :P |
| 11:48.04 | danderson | here's a free hint: `rm -rf /*` is not something you want to run on your server. |
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| 11:48.13 | skbohra | danderson: :D |
| 11:48.26 | tobier | danderson: thansk for the tip ;) |
| 11:48.54 | danderson | (I was actually typing `rm -rf *`, but my pinky slipped and inserted a / - the rm was to clean my homedir prior to importing my shell config which warns for exactly this sort of thing) |
| 11:48.55 | Ivanovic | danderson: why not? |
| 11:49.12 | kai | danderson: ouch |
| 11:49.20 | Ivanovic | hey, this is the ultimate cleanup of your system! |
| 11:49.27 | danderson | yeah, right. |
| 11:49.30 | kai | Ivanovic: it's not |
| 11:49.50 | Lennie | ouch |
| 11:49.53 | Lennie | very ouch |
| 11:49.54 | danderson | fortunately, it started whining halfway through /dev that it couldn't delete some stuff |
| 11:49.55 | Lennie | well |
| 11:50.00 | Lennie | we had a few laughs about the bot not being here :) |
| 11:50.03 | danderson | so I managed to kill it before it hit /home and /srv :) |
| 11:50.18 | danderson | less painful to restore |
| 11:50.19 | ojwb | you need a /aardvark |
| 11:50.49 | Ivanovic | hmm, if /etc is gone as well as the list of installed packages: this sucks to restore! |
| 11:50.58 | Ivanovic | (unless you got a backup of those at hand) |
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| 11:51.24 | firc | hi |
| 11:51.34 | tobier | danderson: nice friday night of restoring the system ahead? ;) |
| 11:51.48 | danderson | pretty much |
| 11:52.04 | danderson | on the plus site, I took the opportunity to get a really really tight grsec kernel installed |
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| 11:52.20 | tobier | I'll think of you when I drink my beer, and maybe feel a bit sorry for you |
| 11:52.20 | danderson | all restrictions except RBAC active by default, including trusted path execution for all users |
| 11:52.45 | kai | we'll cope without the bot :) I finally got around to add some more aliases |
| 11:52.48 | danderson | so unless you're in the trusted group, you can only execute binaries owned and controlled by root |
| 11:52.49 | kai | like... |
| 11:52.59 | kai | Lennie: See the faq at http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs |
| 11:53.07 | Lennie | !faq |
| 11:53.12 | Lennie | "P |
| 11:53.31 | kai | it's not automatic.. I hate automatic scripts in my irc client |
| 11:53.47 | ojwb | kai: that's pretty cool - how do you know to answer before someone asks? |
| 11:54.10 | Lennie | well me and kai are actually connected |
| 11:54.11 | kai | ojwb: google mind control sattelites have a mind reader beta |
| 11:54.16 | Lennie | exactly |
| 11:54.23 | Lennie | those sattelites are not only for LAZERS!! |
| 11:54.26 | Lennie | ^_^ |
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| 11:54.46 | tobier | you don't put lazers on sattelites, you put them on sharks, duh |
| 11:54.47 | Ivanovic | uhm, aren't the sattelites affected by the volcano ash? |
| 11:54.55 | tobier | frickin sharks with frickin lazerzz |
| 11:55.01 | Ivanovic | at least if you try to target europe |
| 11:55.10 | kai | Ivanovic: yeah, but for Lennie it's still sufficient ;) |
| 11:55.23 | danderson | Ivanovic: we moved beyond primitive sensing technology years ago |
| 11:55.26 | danderson | we now use subspace. |
| 11:55.38 | kai | hehe |
| 11:55.55 | Lennie | where do you think google stores her data? |
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| 11:55.57 | Ivanovic | but you do know that there is an offset problem in subspace technology? |
| 11:56.00 | tobier | how about that, google is evil |
| 11:56.16 | kai | tobier: no they're not, do your research |
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| 11:56.24 | Ivanovic | with other words: since this offset is nondeterminisic, you current results are likely to be wrong |
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| 11:57.02 | tobier | kai: well with your laser-of-doom-sattelites, I'll put you in the fairly-evil category at least |
| 11:57.40 | tobier | uh not your, google |
| 11:57.45 | tobier | language fail |
| 11:58.10 | danderson | here it comes (I hope) |
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| 11:58.19 | danderson | \o/ |
| 11:58.31 | danderson | !faq |
| 11:58.31 | Ivanovic | !faq |
| 11:58.31 | socinfo | Error: "faq" is not a valid command. |
| 11:58.35 | danderson | huh. |
| 11:58.36 | ojwb | nice |
| 11:58.40 | Lennie | !next |
| 11:58.40 | socinfo | Error: "next" is not a valid command. |
| 11:58.44 | Lennie | it forgot all? :) |
| 11:58.45 | Ivanovic | !help |
| 11:58.45 | socinfo | Error: "help" is not a valid command. |
| 11:58.59 | tobier | how about that |
| 11:59.01 | Ivanovic | danderson: looks like the brain operation was a full success |
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| 11:59.02 | danderson | in the words of spock |
| 11:59.04 | danderson | fascinating. |
| 11:59.06 | Ivanovic | all useless thoughts are gone |
| 11:59.15 | danderson | aha, I believe sqlite may be missing. |
| 11:59.36 | danderson | WARNING 2010-04-16T13:58:01 supybot You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin. Download it at <http://pysqlite.org/> |
| 11:59.40 | danderson | that would be correct. |
| 12:01.04 | kai | bye socinfo |
| 12:01.08 | danderson | it's coming back |
| 12:01.13 | danderson | I just kicked it a little bit |
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| 12:01.24 | danderson | !faq |
| 12:01.24 | socinfo | Error: "faq" is not a valid command. |
| 12:01.27 | danderson | gaaah. |
| 12:01.39 | tobier | :( |
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| 12:02.27 | kai | we can restore them from offsite knowledge, nm\ |
| 12:03.40 | danderson | no, that's not what I mean |
| 12:03.47 | danderson | I mean "gaaah, why is it not finding pysqlite" |
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| 12:05.56 | ojwb | sqlite 2 vs 3? |
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| 12:13.05 | danderson | ojwb: maybe, but `file` says they're sqlite3, and I installed sqlite3 support |
| 12:13.10 | danderson | there's something funky going on. |
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| 12:15.32 | danderson | okay, it's no longer whining about being unable to load. I think. |
| 12:15.34 | danderson | !faq |
| 12:15.34 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs |
| 12:15.35 | danderson | \o/ |
| 12:15.37 | Lennie | !next |
| 12:15.37 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
| 12:15.42 | Lennie | !danderson |
| 12:15.43 | socinfo | Error: "danderson" is not a valid command. |
| 12:15.46 | Lennie | :( |
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| 12:15.49 | danderson | okay, one more reboot to daemonize the bot, and we're done |
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| 12:16.16 | danderson | !next |
| 12:16.16 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
| 12:16.18 | danderson | perfect. |
| 12:16.22 | Lennie | lgtm |
| 12:16.29 | Lennie | thanks danderson :D |
| 12:16.38 | danderson | for the record, the cause: |
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| 12:16.53 | danderson | debian/ubuntu have two pysqlite packages, pysqlite1.1 and pysqlite2 |
| 12:17.07 | danderson | both implement sqlite3 support, but only 1.1 exports a 'sqlite' module |
| 12:17.19 | danderson | 2.0 uses some weird stuff |
| 12:17.22 | ojwb | ah, that's the thing I vaguely remembered... |
| 12:17.28 | danderson | and supybot wanted a sqlite module |
| 12:17.33 | ojwb | sorry for not being more useful |
| 12:17.38 | danderson | so, install the right module, and voila, back in business. |
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| 12:24.47 | qrng | Ivanovic: The ultimate cleanup would be dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/<yourdisk> |
| 12:25.26 | qrng | /dev/zero would be faster, but leaves a possibility to restore data. |
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| 12:31.04 | ojwb | unless you have a hardware entropy device, /dev/urandom would take ages |
| 12:31.43 | |Kev| | Isn't that backwards? |
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| 12:31.53 | |Kev| | IT's /dev/random that's blocking on entropy, /dev/urandom is nonblocking. |
| 12:32.23 | ojwb | ah yes |
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| 12:35.31 | thebolt | and a single overwrite is not enough anyhow to wipe a disk independent of the source of your data |
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| 12:36.19 | kai | ok, there we go |
| 12:36.33 | kai | there goes _all_ the airspace in germany, it seems |
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| 12:36.39 | mlankhorst | same here ;P |
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| 12:36.54 | mlankhorst | looks like carols is stuck in holland now, muahaha |
| 12:37.18 | danderson | as a googler was saying, let's hope that this eruption doesn't go on as long as the one in the 1800's... or did you plan on travelling anywhere in the next 2 years? :) |
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| 12:38.07 | qrng | Well, Holland is not that bad a country to settle down. |
| 12:38.23 | mlankhorst | she could always take the boat ;) |
| 12:38.41 | qrng | She could always roll up a ciggie. |
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| 12:38.48 | kai | danderson: yeah |
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| 12:39.01 | kai | danderson: luckily my next conf is reachable by train :) |
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| 12:39.09 | danderson | or, less dramatically, train to the south of France, and fly to the US from there (or from Spain) |
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| 12:39.56 | mlankhorst | danderson: bah! :( |
| 12:39.56 | kai | or finally work on shielding technology |
| 12:40.10 | kai | navigation shields shouldn't be too hard |
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| 12:40.29 | danderson | right, shield technology |
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| 12:40.44 | danderson | then you can just bounce a graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish |
| 12:40.46 | danderson | and hey presto |
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| 12:42.47 | kai | danderson: yeah |
| 12:42.58 | qrng | danderson: I think you can publish your idea in the Anals (sic!) of improbable research. |
| 12:43.44 | danderson | "It is likely that the production of ash will continue at a comparable level for some days or weeks," said Einar Kjartansson, a geophysicist at the Icelandic Meteorological Office. |
| 12:43.48 | danderson | yaaay. |
| 12:44.09 | kai | phew |
| 12:44.40 | kai | no mention if it will go up or down after that |
| 12:44.45 | kai | ;) |
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| 12:45.29 | qrng | Well, we can interpret that the production of ash will cease after the aforementioned period. |
| 12:45.59 | kai | danderson: there's a good side to it |
| 12:46.17 | kai | danderson: air traffic controllers here were planning to go on strike next week |
| 12:46.22 | kai | they now cancelled that |
| 12:46.33 | x` | flying to ireland in about a week ... |
| 12:46.38 | danderson | x`: no you're not :) |
| 12:46.44 | qrng | kai: Why would they do that? |
| 12:46.55 | mlankhorst | more money ofc |
| 12:47.06 | |Kev| | No. |
| 12:47.07 | danderson | kai: yeah, but I was planning some travelling and moving, and the damn planet may bone me and my plans |
| 12:47.11 | |Kev| | People never strike for more money. |
| 12:47.15 | |Kev| | It's always for public safety. |
| 12:47.17 | |Kev| | Or somesuch. |
| 12:47.20 | x` | i'm thinking turbo prop plane? or are they all vulnerable? |
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| 12:47.35 | |Kev| | x`: props should be less of a problem, iiuc. |
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| 12:47.59 | danderson | not true |
| 12:48.04 | mkarnicki | |Kev|: not really.. health care in my country is far from perfect. there are quite many strikes.. amongst health care and safty - for money. |
| 12:48.16 | danderson | it may not screw with the engine, maybe |
| 12:48.18 | qrng | |Kev|: You must live in some paradise, then. When I hear about strikes, it is always because plebeans are unhappy about their meager remuneration. |
| 12:48.24 | danderson | but it'll still sandblast the windshield |
| 12:48.24 | |Kev| | mkarnicki: yes, I was being sarcastic. |
| 12:48.32 | danderson | and then you get to land on instruments only :) |
| 12:48.33 | mkarnicki | |Kev|: I'm naive, sorry ;) |
| 12:48.56 | |Kev| | If you listen to the transport unions in the UK, they always say "It's not about the money, this is a matter of principles. Unless they pay us more, it won't be safe for the public" or somesuch. |
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| 12:49.14 | mkarnicki | |Kev|: hahaha. I get it :) |
| 12:49.18 | x` | danderson: gah, right. not something you'd like to do day to day |
| 12:49.19 | qrng | In fact, I can wager my left lung that we can arguably say that meager remuneration was responsible for the dictature of proletariat. |
| 12:49.59 | |Kev| | danderson: but that sounds exciting! :) |
| 12:49.59 | danderson | x`: also, given past experience reports from flying through ash clouds, prop planes would still be screwed |
| 12:50.20 | danderson | the ash gunks up the air intake on regular prop powerplants and stalls the engine |
| 12:50.41 | danderson | on turboprops, it might do the same as with jet turbines, rehead and adhere to the insides of the combustion chamber |
| 12:50.45 | danderson | *reheat |
| 12:50.49 | x` | bottom line, ash grounds you period |
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| 12:51.16 | danderson | pretty much. You can't see a thing, you get a sandblasted windscreen to replace, and your engines stall. |
| 12:51.32 | danderson | if you're lucky, they'll start up again once you clear the cloud, but don't count on it :) |
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| 12:51.45 | x` | well my flight is from london -> kerry only, and since this stuff is being blown down to central europe ... maybe we'll fly anyway! :P |
| 12:51.53 | kai | qrng: why they'd cancel their strike? |
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| 12:52.05 | kai | qrng: no use striking if you can't work anyway |
| 12:52.48 | danderson | kai: greater possibility of aircraft in distress |
| 12:52.57 | danderson | -> better to have many eyes on the radars |
| 12:52.59 | qrng | If I were a chief manager, I would insist that they go on strike as planned. :-D |
| 12:53.13 | |Kev| | danderson: what planes? :) |
| 12:53.15 | kai | qrng: you can't _force_ people to strike |
| 12:53.16 | danderson | it's to their credit as ethical people that they cancelled the strike |
| 12:53.25 | qrng | kai: No? What a pity. |
| 12:53.34 | danderson | |Kev|: all the other planes that operate in airspace that is still open |
| 12:53.35 | kai | danderson: sure, I was just joking |
| 12:54.00 | kai | |Kev|: also, at least in southern germany the lower airspace seems to be open |
| 12:54.02 | danderson | weather changes could shift the ash cloud very quickly, and cause distress for aircrafts that are operating |
| 12:54.31 | kai | at least we just had a paramedic helicopter fly over |
| 12:54.32 | mlankhorst | hell in holland you can take it to the judge if you want to strike ;) |
| 12:54.38 | mlankhorst | and then they cant do shit about it |
| 12:54.43 | danderson | for example, you're a scheduled commercial flight, flying in class A airspace (above 18000 feet), and between you and your destination, the weather has moved the ash cloud. |
| 12:55.08 | danderson | You now need all the air traffic assistance you can get to reroute to an unobstructed airport, given other traffic in the air and weather forecasts |
| 12:55.10 | kai | mlankhorst: I doubt the employer can _force_ the employees to go on strike |
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| 12:55.38 | qrng | kai: But employers DO force, however indirectly. |
| 12:55.57 | mlankhorst | kai: just decrease wages by 50%, win win |
| 12:56.05 | mlankhorst | either they go on strike or they lose 50% :D |
| 12:56.06 | kai | mlankhorst: can't do that |
| 12:56.24 | mlankhorst | I know |
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| 12:56.50 | qrng | kai: You can't punish people if they go on strike and to decrease their wages, but you can do that there is no strike. |
| 12:57.02 | qrng | *if there |
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| 12:59.00 | x` | is this ash visible if you look up into the sky? |
| 12:59.13 | Ivanovic | x`: in iceland: sure |
| 12:59.19 | mlankhorst | not here :) |
| 12:59.21 | Ivanovic | in most of the rest: no |
| 12:59.32 | mlankhorst | it's dilated too much |
| 12:59.43 | Ivanovic | (you only see it in the "better" colors of sunrise and sunset |
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| 13:00.17 | x` | huh, i'm in the uk currently and i thought it was going to be like one of those sydney red sand storms or something |
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| 13:00.33 | x` | but instead it's sunny as hell here :) |
| 13:00.45 | Ivanovic | no, it is nothing like this |
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| 13:06.39 | yonij | Do we have any working or promising search engine projects( in general ..not necessarly in gsoc ) based on AI ? |
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| 13:14.24 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
| 13:14.46 | kai | yonij: AI in what respect? |
| 13:16.04 | yonij | Kai Like understanding the questions, content on the net ,matural language recognition , image recognition |
| 13:16.15 | yonij | *natural |
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| 13:16.52 | yonij | If it see a pic of a laptop it should understand it as a comuting device |
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| 13:17.08 | yonij | someting of that sort |
| 13:19.24 | yonij | kai: we have wulfrom alfa for analysis and stuff like that...but its not really AI |
| 13:20.47 | yonij | kai: is this what you ment? |
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| 15:22.36 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Summer of Code 2010 is On! - Accepted student applications announced on April 26 - File Feature Requests & Bugs at http://bit.ly/a5tD87 - Read the FAQs: http://bit.ly/9q41Ey - Consider Hosting a GSoC Info Session: http://bit.ly/amIwdd - We need flyer and presentations translations, videos too! |
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| 15:31.17 | asmeurer | socinfo lives! |
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| 15:31.59 | YuviPanda | :D |
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| 15:36.01 | ihalip | socinfo hi |
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| 15:36.05 | ihalip | hm |
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| 16:37.32 | socinfo | "numapps" is In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and there were 5539 proposals submitted by students |
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| 16:37.55 | yonij | !orgs |
| 16:37.56 | socinfo | "orgs" is The list of accepted mentoring organizations is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 |
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| 16:50.26 | monov | hi, sorry for the offtopic but is there a Google Code Project Hosting channel I can ask a question on? unrelated to the SoC. |
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| 16:51.34 | aghisla | i'm sure that socinfo remembers everything :D |
| 16:51.45 | danderson | there isn't, but I happen to be a site admin. What is the question? |
| 16:51.59 | danderson | (also, there's a support mailing list, if that's more appropriate) |
| 16:53.13 | monov | danderson: I want to be notified of commits to my projects, instantly if possible. Skype or another IM would be optimal, irc or email would also work. Is there a way? maybe with a custom post-commit hook? |
| 16:53.39 | danderson | you can set up commit emails for a project |
| 16:53.49 | danderson | there is also a commit update feed you can watch |
| 16:54.08 | shreyas | !next |
| 16:54.08 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
| 16:55.34 | monov | danderson: got it. thanks. |
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| 17:37.58 | reddragon | !timeline |
| 17:37.59 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 17:39.04 | kimelto | morning! |
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| 17:42.22 | yonij | hey..Anyone from kerala in this? |
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| 17:43.43 | carla | !help |
| 17:43.43 | socinfo | "help" is !next, !faq, !advice and !wiki. !botabuse tells you about private query syntax |
| 17:44.35 | Sanshaptak | yes I am |
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| 17:45.46 | yonij | ww...from where? |
| 17:46.04 | skbohra | Kerala |
| 17:46.05 | skbohra | :P |
| 17:46.30 | yonij | i mean were in kerala |
| 17:46.52 | yonij | its a big place u know :) |
| 17:47.11 | skbohra | ofcourse I know |
| 17:47.41 | Sanshaptak | i m from calicut |
| 17:48.09 | yonij | cool..am from cochin.. |
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| 18:02.31 | kasun | !next |
| 18:02.31 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
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| 18:03.24 | kasun | oh, it's nice to see the bot back again! |
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| 18:08.55 | spsneo | !logs |
| 18:08.55 | socinfo | "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
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| 18:13.20 | aghisla | nice suntan socinfo |
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| 19:14.53 | meonkeys | !log |
| 19:14.53 | socinfo | Error: access denied (owner). |
| 19:15.09 | SukhE | !logs |
| 19:15.09 | socinfo | "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
| 19:15.16 | meonkeys | thank you. |
| 19:15.30 | meonkeys | is socinfo a supybot? |
| 19:15.50 | SukhE | Yup |
| 19:16.04 | mlankhorst | !log |
| 19:16.04 | socinfo | Error: access denied (owner). |
| 19:20.47 | mlankhorst | !access |
| 19:20.47 | socinfo | Error: "access" is not a valid command. |
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| 19:23.10 | akssps011 | What should be done in the meantime after application deadline and before selections are made ? |
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| 19:24.03 | mmadia | you could try to impress your mentoring organization and convince them that you are the right student for the job. |
| 19:24.12 | mmadia | but talking with them is always a good start. |
| 19:24.36 | vegard | hm |
| 19:24.43 | vegard | didn't the selection deadline just expire? |
| 19:25.09 | yonij | selection deadline??...of wat? |
| 19:25.27 | vegard | selection of students (by the mentor orgs) |
| 19:25.47 | akssps011 | vegard: isn't it 21st april |
| 19:25.50 | mmadia | no. by this monday the orgs need to have their students ranked & paired with mentors. |
| 19:26.19 | vegard | oh |
| 19:26.20 | mmadia | at that point, the de-duplication process starts. on the 26th is the official announcement of accepted students. |
| 19:26.24 | vegard | it was 26th not 16th |
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| 19:34.28 | gigasoft1 | what happens on 21 April 2010 |
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| 19:36.31 | aghisla | someone's birthday, probably |
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| 19:38.28 | mmadia | ideally any and all duplicate students will have been resolved. There'll be an IRC meeting on Wednesday, April 21 at 19:00 UTC, which every org needs to attend. This is to quickly resolve any new and unexpected duplication. |
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| 19:41.35 | smtms | the timeline on the website still tells the meeting time is TBD |
| 19:42.42 | mmadia | i pulled the date from carol's "Allocations and Deduplication - Let the Fun Begin" mentors email. |
| 19:43.04 | mmadia | though i could be wrong :) |
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| 19:52.37 | jnanesh_ | hi |
| 19:53.54 | jnanesh_ | where can I see "student ranking" assigned to my proposal? |
| 19:55.05 | yonij | you cant ...only mentors can see it |
| 19:55.27 | jnanesh_ | so how would I know about my selection?! |
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| 19:56.10 | thebolt | you know when the results are announced on april 26th |
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| 20:16.54 | thebolt | hi carols , how do you do? |
| 20:17.17 | jkwood | o/ carols |
| 20:17.25 | mlankhorst | hi carols ! :O |
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| 20:54.08 | danderson | I think I shot socbot again, yes? |
| 20:54.09 | danderson | yes. |
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| 20:55.50 | thebolt | danderson: stop doing that :P |
| 20:56.44 | smtms | how many lives does socbot have? |
| 20:57.34 | danderson | thebolt: yeah yeah yeah. I may have tripped over an intrusion detection tripwire and caused all processes originating from my IP address to be killed |
| 20:57.36 | Catfish_Man | smtms: all of them |
| 20:58.31 | thebolt | danderson: hehe |
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| 22:24.53 | MatthewWilkes | spectie: Most exciting general election ever - you coming back for it? :) |
| 22:25.19 | spectie | hey MatthewWilkes |
| 22:25.21 | spectie | haha, nah |
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| 22:25.29 | spectie | hoping for a hung parliament ? |
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| 22:26.23 | MatthewWilkes | spectie: Always. You seen the new poll results? First time in history a governing party has been in 3rd place in a poll during an election |
| 22:26.34 | spectie | wow |
| 22:26.41 | spectie | :) |
| 22:29.21 | MatthewWilkes | As I say, exciting as hell. |
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| 22:32.41 | ojwb | wonders if he should sort out being able to vote |
| 22:32.48 | ojwb | trouble is, which lizard to vote for... |
| 22:34.00 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: You've still got a couple of days to do it. |
| 22:34.06 | MatthewWilkes | also, nice h2g2 reference :) |
| 22:35.21 | ojwb | MatthewWilkes: i'm an ex-pat, which might complicate things |
| 22:36.09 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: Ah, right. Well, if you get your form by the 20th you should be OK, that's the deadline for registering as well as postals and proxies |
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| 22:43.49 | yonij | !timeline |
| 22:43.49 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 22:44.03 | emmanuelp | wii the bot is back |
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| 22:44.31 | yonij | yep .. :) |
| 22:44.51 | emmanuelp | hey guys, anyone knows what kind of tax form is google expecting from us (students)? |
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| 22:49.28 | emmanuelp | hmm or are those for orgs only? |
| 22:50.05 | emmanuelp | FAQ says: |
| 22:50.07 | emmanuelp | What tax related documentation is required from mentoring organizations? |
| 22:50.07 | emmanuelp | We will need the following tax related documentation from mentoring organizations: |
| 22:50.07 | emmanuelp | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.07 | emmanuelp | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.15 | danderson | !faq |
| 22:50.15 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs |
| 22:50.26 | emmanuelp | but then: |
| 22:50.27 | emmanuelp | Google begins issuing initial student payments provided tax forms are on file and students are in good standing with their communities. |
| 22:50.46 | danderson | I suggest you worry about that after you are selected, if you are. |
| 22:50.48 | danderson | There is no urgency. |
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| 22:51.35 | danderson | if the FAQ is still accurate that you need to submit tax forms, I would imagine you'd need W8-BEN for non-US residents |
| 22:51.37 | emmanuelp | yes, thanks, it's just that my country is a big mess when it comes to taxes, I wanted to be ready just in case :) |
| 22:51.47 | danderson | to certify non-american status and claim exemption from taxation |
| 22:51.52 | danderson | (taxation in the US that is) |
| 22:52.12 | danderson | inside the US, no idea. |
| 22:52.23 | danderson | also, my answer may be incomplete, or just plain wrong. |
| 22:52.29 | danderson | Like I said, don't panic :) |
| 22:52.36 | emmanuelp | he, he, ok thanks :) |
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| 22:53.21 | hprateek | does ny1 know how many slots princeton centre or berkman center at harvard university were awarded |
| 22:53.47 | danderson | I imagine princeton centre and berkman center at harvard university know |
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| 23:27.17 | socinfo | Error: "nex" is not a valid command. |
| 23:27.19 | fabiosl | !next |
| 23:27.19 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
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| 23:31.29 | memehe | !next |
| 23:31.30 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
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| 23:31.44 | memehe | !prev |
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| 23:49.10 | socinfo | "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
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