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| 15:12.00 | GG | hi |
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| 15:33.25 | mlankhorst | hoi |
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| 16:17.55 | Ademan | are there any stats for gsoc? like how many proposals there were, from where, average proposals per person, that sort of thing? |
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| 16:19.43 | sanjoyd | !stats |
| 16:19.43 | socinfo | "stats" is http://www.lfowles.org/irc/gsoc/stats.htm |
| 16:19.58 | sanjoyd | Ademan, ^^ |
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| 16:24.58 | carols | hello all |
| 16:25.06 | carols | serves some tea and cookies |
| 16:25.09 | mlankhorst | hoi! |
| 16:25.15 | mlankhorst | hops down on open source couch |
| 16:25.55 | carols | sips some tea on the couch as well |
| 16:26.01 | carols | hey mlankhorst |
| 16:27.10 | mlankhorst | how are ya :) |
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| 16:28.26 | carols | good, how you doing? |
| 16:28.31 | carols | happy monday :-) |
| 16:28.33 | Ademan | thanks sanjoyd |
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| 16:33.31 | mlankhorst | not that happyt with it being monday, but ok i guess :) |
| 16:33.41 | aghisla | hi carols! |
| 16:33.54 | carols | hey aghisla! how you doing today? |
| 16:33.59 | carols | mlankhorst: I hear you there. :-) |
| 16:34.53 | aghisla | carols: fine, i'm baking bread! and you? |
| 16:35.05 | carols | aghisla: mmm bread. that sounds nummy. |
| 16:35.21 | carols | aghisla: im good. had a relaxing weekend where I managed to _mostly_ not look at my email |
| 16:35.30 | carols | i wasn't entirely successful, but oh well. |
| 16:35.32 | aghisla | gives carols a warm slice of brown bread |
| 16:35.34 | aghisla | wow |
| 16:35.41 | carols | munches bread |
| 16:35.44 | carols | mmm yummy |
| 16:35.46 | aghisla | you have been flooded this morning then :P |
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| 16:36.07 | carols | aghisla: yes, but it also means less stress on the weekend. :-) if i'm constantly worrying about work I never get to relax |
| 16:36.31 | aghisla | true |
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| 16:36.53 | carols | aghisla: how was your weekend? |
| 16:37.23 | GG|Dinner | hi |
| 16:37.31 | aghisla | very relaxing as well :) the weather keeps all rain and storms for weekends so i stayed at home :P |
| 16:38.05 | carols | sounds nice. :-) |
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| 16:44.52 | mlankhorst | carols: pasta here :) |
| 16:45.01 | mlankhorst | i must say, its the ideal food if you're lazy |
| 16:45.11 | carols | mlankhorst: that sounds good. good coder food. :-) |
| 16:45.33 | mlankhorst | hehe ;) |
| 16:46.44 | mlankhorst | should just find a job that makes food for me i guess |
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| 16:50.32 | schumaml | mlankhorst: chef |
| 16:50.55 | mlankhorst | noo, i dont want to prepare food |
| 16:52.05 | schumaml | mlankhorst: once your chef, you only criticize the other cooks |
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| 16:54.12 | mlankhorst | ;P |
| 16:54.22 | mlankhorst | haha, and id still eat pasta for dinner |
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| 16:59.41 | schumaml | yep, but it's be like "al dente? you call that 'al dente'? here, I'll show you..." and serve the other cooks one single piece of a perfectly al dente pasta that'll haunt them forever |
| 16:59.54 | schumaml | s/it's/it'd/ |
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| 17:01.41 | mlankhorst | yeah, but 50% chance id end up lower than the median for a chef ;) |
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| 17:04.04 | aghisla | mlankhorst: couscous is even easier and quicker to prepare than pasta ;) |
| 17:04.45 | YuviPanda | comes up for a breather amidst exams |
| 17:04.54 | YuviPanda | ohai folks! |
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| 17:06.16 | YuviPanda | slightly offtopic, but since there are lots of students here from different countries - http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/DAC_RCC_%2005042010/Linked%20Files/V_%20ICE/CSE.doc -> is my syllabus (for 5th semester) |
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| 17:06.21 | YuviPanda | how does that compare to yours? |
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| 19:26.13 | eduardop | hello! |
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| 19:34.54 | carols | serves some more tea and cookies |
| 19:35.05 | carols | its gotten quiet. im sure you are all bonding with your new orgs :-) |
| 19:35.11 | carols | and your new students :-) |
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| 19:35.57 | gevaerts | Yay, tea and cookies! |
| 19:36.10 | gevaerts | gets unties some bonding to get at them |
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| 19:37.33 | bwinton | gasps. "Thats |
| 19:37.51 | bwinton | That's not a cookie, it's a tardis self-destruct button! |
| 19:39.14 | gevaerts | bwinton: surely carols wouldn't do such a thing? |
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| 19:39.24 | carols | never! |
| 19:39.27 | carols | checks cookies |
| 19:39.31 | carols | yummy, yummy cookies |
| 19:39.50 | carols | enjoy gevaerts |
| 19:39.54 | gevaerts | Thanks! |
| 19:40.31 | bwinton | Well, okay then. Thanks, carols! |
| 19:40.44 | carols | yw bwinton :-) enjoy |
| 19:40.56 | carols | munches some cookies herself |
| 19:41.03 | carols | its the simple things in life. |
| 19:41.24 | topfs2 | damn, I seriosly wished I had cookies here :S |
| 19:41.49 | topfs2 | not that I don't like iCookies ofc. ;) |
| 19:42.21 | topfs2 | e-cookies probably better name |
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| 19:46.39 | carols | serves more cookies |
| 19:46.52 | Ivanovic | hmmm |
| 19:47.13 | gevaerts | eats more cookies :) |
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| 19:50.53 | ek1 | What kind of goodies does google send ? |
| 19:51.02 | mkarnicki | a t-shirt ;) |
| 19:51.03 | ek1 | I mean what does google goodies stand for ? |
| 19:51.13 | mkarnicki | ek1: I'm just guessing ;) |
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| 19:51.44 | ek1 | I also heard about some surprise goodies too |
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| 19:52.26 | gevaerts | ek1: if you *really* impress them, they erase embarassing search results about you :) |
| 19:52.39 | topfs2 | ek1, not happy with the money ? ;) |
| 19:53.16 | topfs2 | I'm so happy I can spend this summer on my hobby (floss and xbmc) |
| 19:53.30 | [mharrison] | Due to budget cuts, google will be sending you bug reports which you'll be expected to handle. |
| 19:53.45 | topfs2 | haha |
| 19:54.00 | ek1 | gevaerts: good one. topfs2: money may be good, but goodies are better |
| 19:54.46 | topfs2 | ek1, hehe :) |
| 19:54.48 | carols | ek1: aw, the fufillment of working on an open source project isnt enough? |
| 19:54.51 | topfs2 | last years have been books ? |
| 19:55.20 | YuviPanda | was wondering if we could get some, y'know, signed books or signed <X> where X can be anything. Even tissue paper |
| 19:55.47 | YuviPanda | Lots of heros work at google |
| 19:55.48 | topfs2 | YuviPanda, signed by whom is probably good to specify ;) |
| 19:56.01 | summatusmentis | in '08, students were sent a book, and access to O'Reilly's online library(whatever it's called) |
| 19:56.24 | summatusmentis | in '09, students were given a year-long student membership to ACM |
| 19:56.43 | topfs2 | summatusmentis, oh cool. O'Reilly have some neat books |
| 19:56.45 | summatusmentis | there is no obligation however, that Google continue this |
| 19:56.51 | YuviPanda | topfs2: say, norvig. or that Unix dude. Or page and brin |
| 19:57.05 | Landon | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.11 | Landon | I think they did a signed book in '07 |
| 19:57.13 | summatusmentis | these were gifts on top of the money/t-shirt |
| 19:57.21 | summatusmentis | oh they did? |
| 19:57.36 | YuviPanda | Landon: I Mean, not everyone signing for everyone |
| 19:57.41 | YuviPanda | Landon: they could split it up |
| 19:57.49 | topfs2 | YuviPanda, i'd rather have a signed letter of recomendation for computer job by those guys :) |
| 19:58.11 | topfs2 | or well not rather, but damn that would have been cool on job interviews ;) |
| 19:58.12 | ek1 | @carol: working is gr8, but read it somewhere so just asked. The experience is awsome and uncomparable. But there no harm in expecting things. Doesn't it ? Even we expect gifts from our parents too :) |
| 19:58.14 | YuviPanda | topfs2: I'm sure your mentor/org will give you that :D |
| 19:58.25 | YuviPanda | topfs2: wonder if at some point we'd get, say, Ken as a mentor |
| 19:58.25 | ek1 | summatusmentis: hey gr8 |
| 19:58.35 | summatusmentis | ek1: that's not the point of gifts |
| 19:58.46 | carols | ek1: nah, no harm. i was being tongue-in-cheek. :-) we will show our appreciation for your hard work |
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| 19:59.52 | kblin | with a t-shirt ;) |
| 19:59.55 | topfs2 | I don't understand the point of expecting it? I get more money doing a thing I love, thanx to gsoc, than I would have working this summer. I think I'd be happy to take a folder of bug reports to file as a thanks :) |
| 20:00.32 | ek1 | @carols, summatusmentisNo gifts expected, but they surely make you happy( a normal hard working student is more happy with a mere gift, even a pen than any amount of money). :) |
| 20:00.38 | kblin | in 2005, that was going to be a long sleeve, but the IRS withheld 30% of that |
| 20:00.39 | topfs2 | ofc. google will perhaps benefit from my work nevertheless :) |
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| 20:01.09 | thebolt | hi kblin |
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| 20:01.36 | carols | kblin: aw, you think we should do shirts this year? i dont know ;-) |
| 20:01.59 | topfs2 | btw YuviPanda I don't follow tith ken as mentor? |
| 20:02.14 | Landon | longsleeve shirts would be more appropriate :P at least for northern hemisphere students |
| 20:02.24 | Landon | considering when we get them |
| 20:02.32 | YuviPanda | topfs2: if you had Ken Thomson as a mentor, you could probably get a 'letter of reccomendation' from him (if you iimpress him enough) |
| 20:02.34 | gevaerts | carols: maybe you should reverse things so you get shirts from all the orgs |
| 20:03.02 | carols | gevaerts: an excellent idea! |
| 20:03.14 | YuviPanda | will see if he can try con the KDE guys into giving him a Shirt (assuming the GNOME folks already will) |
| 20:03.19 | carols | wants a shirt and stickers from each mentoring org this year |
| 20:03.20 | topfs2 | I think gsoc should send out n1's (for me I could get less money and a N1) I just can't justify bying it when I have a magic, but ooooh I want the N1 so bad :D |
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| 20:04.07 | topfs2 | YuviPanda, oh :) |
| 20:04.33 | kblin | carols: ack on the stickers, we don't currently have shirts. if they arrive in time for the mentor summit, I can bring one along as well |
| 20:04.38 | kblin | carols: otherwise bug JRA |
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| 20:04.59 | topfs2 | does the shirt say gsoc 2010? (or did the previously say that?) |
| 20:05.01 | carols | kblin: you are too kind! i was being a little silly. :-) but thank you! |
| 20:05.16 | topfs2 | because, that would be soo fun wering to school :) |
| 20:05.22 | carols | topfs2: you might find this fun: http://images.google.com/images?q=google%20summer%20of%20code%202009%20tshirt&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi |
| 20:05.24 | YuviPanda | will spend most of the money on clothes, guitar and student loans :) |
| 20:05.28 | YuviPanda | topfs2: i think it would |
| 20:05.42 | summatusmentis | topfs2: students tried that in '08 and '09 too :) |
| 20:05.42 | kblin | carols: I've got a stack of stickers around at home, I can't stick all of them on my computers |
| 20:05.49 | gevaerts | carols: we'll need sizes :) |
| 20:05.50 | summatusmentis | (getting google to give out android phones) |
| 20:05.55 | MostAwesomeDude | carols: Coming to OSBridge? Let us (gchaix, Jeff_S, Ramereth, etc.) know and we'll merch you up. :3 |
| 20:06.02 | carols | kblin: why thank you. i covet stickers |
| 20:06.16 | carols | squees |
| 20:06.22 | carols | yay stuff! |
| 20:06.30 | carols | gevaerts: that can be arranged :-) |
| 20:06.30 | mkarnicki | summatusmentis: good idea with the phones ;D |
| 20:06.44 | summatusmentis | mkarnicki: unfortunately, Google didn't buy it :) |
| 20:06.48 | carols | MostAwesomeDude: actually speaking at OS bridge, and really looking forward to it too. you are all awesome |
| 20:06.52 | mkarnicki | summatusmentis: too bad :D |
| 20:06.54 | kblin | carols: It'll be fun to shwag the ospo folks for a change ;) |
| 20:06.59 | summatusmentis | in '08 everyone was wanting a G1 |
| 20:07.05 | mkarnicki | haha |
| 20:07.12 | summatusmentis | in '09, the Nexus had just been released at Google I/O |
| 20:07.16 | carols | kblin: im sure cat and ellen would love some schwag too :-) |
| 20:07.38 | MostAwesomeDude | carols: Awesome, see you there. I was gonna speak, but they rejected me. :C |
| 20:07.40 | topfs2 | summatusmentis, hehe, didn't mean to get them to do it :) Just want one, but don't dare to buy one for the money. psycology :) My money needs to go to my exchange year. If I got money - 500$ and a n1 it would have been so much simpler on my concious :) |
| 20:07.55 | topfs2 | YuviPanda, mine going to travel :) |
| 20:08.00 | carols | MostAwesomeDude: aw, sorry to hear that. but we will meet up :-) |
| 20:08.02 | YuviPanda | topfs2: travel to where? |
| 20:08.05 | topfs2 | need to sell one of my guitars even :( |
| 20:08.09 | summatusmentis | topfs2: yeah, I kjnow the feeling, I used my money for tuition |
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| 20:08.10 | topfs2 | sad day, sad day |
| 20:08.12 | kblin | MostAwesomeDude: obvoiusly they found someone even most awesomer than you? |
| 20:08.18 | carols | offers some cookies to ek1 and topfs2 |
| 20:08.19 | topfs2 | YuviPanda, Canada |
| 20:08.20 | [mharrison] | When and if GSoC ends, will my mint condition '06, '07, and '08 shirt fetch me a princely sum on the black market so I can retire? |
| 20:08.23 | carols | enjoy cooies :-) |
| 20:08.30 | topfs2 | exchange year |
| 20:08.35 | topfs2 | carols, thx ;) |
| 20:08.41 | carols | yw topfs2 |
| 20:08.42 | carols | :-) |
| 20:08.45 | YuviPanda | topfs2: cool! |
| 20:09.06 | topfs2 | btw carols that shirt would own my entire class if I had it on in school :) |
| 20:09.29 | kblin | topfs2: beware that shipping takes a while |
| 20:09.38 | carols | topfs2: glad to hear it. :-) |
| 20:09.41 | kblin | for some weird reason the google folks send the money first |
| 20:09.44 | carols | wishes she could have done GSoC in college |
| 20:10.02 | topfs2 | summatusmentis, not fun when the money needs to go to that :( |
| 20:10.04 | kblin | without gsoc, I certainly wouldn't be here today |
| 20:10.12 | topfs2 | (took a while to google up the word ;) ) |
| 20:10.21 | summatusmentis | topfs2: well, gotta do what you've gotta do |
| 20:10.26 | kblin | and with here I don't mean IRC, but the conference I'm at |
| 20:10.30 | YuviPanda | wonders if he can just print his own GSoC shirts |
| 20:10.31 | [mharrison] | kblin, I think it's fair to say that without gsoc, none of us would be here in #gsoc today... |
| 20:10.39 | [mharrison] | Damn, beat me to it |
| 20:10.43 | YuviPanda | can't wear Tees to college, so no point anyway :( |
| 20:10.52 | carols | YuviPanda: no, please dont. that's our trademark you'd be infringing on. |
| 20:10.52 | kblin | [mharrison]: that one was too obvious :) |
| 20:10.55 | summatusmentis | I would argue that GSoC got me my research position this summer |
| 20:11.00 | topfs2 | kblin, what confernce? |
| 20:11.08 | [mharrison] | Yup. I was reaching for the low fruit |
| 20:11.21 | YuviPanda | carols: really? Just something like "2010 GSoC participant" would be wrong? |
| 20:11.25 | kblin | topfs2: http://sambaxp.org/ |
| 20:12.06 | kblin | [mharrison]: windfall |
| 20:12.29 | topfs2 | I'm so angry I didn't send out a proposal to gsoc last year, was damn close not doing it this year aswell. when my previous summer work got into a money jam this year I'm soo glad I got accepted :) |
| 20:12.35 | YuviPanda | carols: i mean, not that lame sounding, but some T Shirt that used the word GSoC - no Google logo, nothing? |
| 20:13.08 | carols | YuviPanda: the term "google summer of code" is trademarked. and in fact GSoC is not strictly ok in the boundaries of the trademark even though a lot of people including myself use it as shorthand. |
| 20:13.13 | topfs2 | kblin, is that samba as in network protocol samba? |
| 20:13.15 | [mharrison] | Free software sure is a funny world. I would find it very difficult to be passionate enough about samba to attend/hold a conference about it |
| 20:13.23 | carols | YuviPanda: i can send you TM info on Google Summer of Code if you're interested |
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| 20:14.06 | schumaml | heh, so my lgm name tag will infringe on google's trademark :) |
| 20:14.06 | ek1 | @carols: How about having Tshirts, one having Google and other having google summer of code....:) |
| 20:14.11 | YuviPanda | carols: nah, IANAL - just didn't think of that. |
| 20:14.12 | summatusmentis | [mharrison]: I've been to a couple OPenAFS workshops, being at the conference/workshop makes you want to be more involved |
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| 20:14.32 | summatusmentis | unfortunately time makes it hard |
| 20:14.35 | MatthewWilkes | evenin' all |
| 20:14.36 | MostAwesomeDude | IANATMPL; as long as you aren't trying to sell anything, you should be fine using the trademark to refer to the program. For resumes and CVs, it shouldn't be a problem. |
| 20:14.54 | carols | ek1: well, then you need to worry about the Google trademark as well as the Google Summer of Code trademark. good luck with that :-) |
| 20:15.13 | carols | ek1, YuviPanda: you both could jsut say "summer of code" |
| 20:15.17 | carols | that's not trademarked |
| 20:15.41 | YuviPanda | carols: I wasn't asking about 'selling' those T-Shirts, btw. Just for, y'know, wearing |
| 20:15.42 | ek1 | what is this trademark think. I couldn't understand |
| 20:16.09 | Catfish_Man | ek1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark |
| 20:16.12 | ek1 | what is this trademark thing. I couldn't understand |
| 20:16.19 | summatusmentis | ek1: brand protection, think of it as copyright for a brand/name |
| 20:16.19 | carols | thanks Catfish_Man |
| 20:16.21 | summatusmentis | sort of |
| 20:16.30 | schumaml | ek1: add your opinion about the program below the title, then it should be covered by one of those amendments |
| 20:16.44 | carols | YuviPanda: i understand. if you'd like the fine details email me and i'd be happy to let you know what is and isnt ok :-) |
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| 20:17.14 | YuviPanda | carols: okay, will do that. |
| 20:17.37 | summatusmentis | carols: are you likely running GSoC for the forseeable future? |
| 20:17.40 | gevaerts | points out that what the holder of a trademark claims isn't necessarily the same as the law claims :) |
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| 20:17.57 | MatthewWilkes | hey carols :) You got back home ok, then? |
| 20:18.13 | carols | summatusmentis: i don't even know what's going to happen tomorrow, much less the foreseeable future. ;-) but yes, I love GSoC and I'm the administrator for the time being. |
| 20:18.25 | carols | MatthewWilkes: hey! yes, im all safe and sound. thanks for asking. how you? |
| 20:18.42 | summatusmentis | carols: I understand that viewpoint :) |
| 20:18.58 | YuviPanda | carols: sent. |
| 20:19.20 | carols | YuviPanda: thanks, and sorry about being a stick in the mud. i promise i'm not this corporate most of the time :-) |
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| 20:19.57 | YuviPanda | carols: yeah, YouANAL too :D |
| 20:20.01 | MatthewWilkes | carols: A little fragile today. Went out for dinner with some friends at a rather expensive restaurant, but it turned out they had some staffing issues as it's a bank holiday so used awful chefs. By the time I'd got my main course the manager had said the meal was on the house, so the food money went on gin and absinthe to celebrate |
| 20:20.08 | carols | YuviPanda: you can say that again! thank goodness. |
| 20:20.24 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: not sure that is a good ending ;) |
| 20:20.29 | MatthewWilkes | Me either |
| 20:20.30 | carols | MatthewWilkes: oh wow, i have to say i dont know that i have much sympathy ;-) i hope you had a good time though |
| 20:21.00 | YuviPanda | carols: :D |
| 20:21.16 | YuviPanda | carols: wonder how GSoC will run if all admins were lawyers... |
| 20:21.16 | ek1 | @carols: Are you a student working for GSoC or yuo are an employee of Google ? |
| 20:21.16 | carols | shudders thinking of being a lawyer |
| 20:21.34 | carols | ek1: im the GSoC program adminstrator |
| 20:21.36 | carols | !carols |
| 20:21.36 | socinfo | "carols" is cat herder and gsoc program admin who can probably help you with your questions if you ask nicely. :-) |
| 20:21.39 | ek1 | a silly but first and last time question |
| 20:21.50 | carols | no worries, its hard to tell who's who in IRC :-) |
| 20:21.53 | MatthewWilkes | Kind of helped by the fact that my ex is a chef at a very posh restaurant and she tried to convince the manager to let her go and talk to the chefs - that was the perfect mix of hilarious and deeply embarrassing |
| 20:21.58 | smtms | YuviPanda, they would start by writing a new open-source license specifically for GSoC - at least 10 pages in length |
| 20:22.01 | carols | MatthewWilkes: ouch |
| 20:22.17 | YuviPanda | smtms: just 10 pages? Unless you're talking about A3 sheets, I am disappoint |
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| 20:22.31 | schumaml | YuviPanda: 4pt font size |
| 20:22.33 | topfs2 | MatthewWilkes, hahaha. sounds like a lovely evening :) |
| 20:22.59 | YuviPanda | schumaml: ah, 4pt verdana on 0.5cm margined a3 sheets |
| 20:23.15 | thebolt | ek1: there is a saying to the effect than better ask a question and feel like a fool for a minute, than to not ask and remain clueless forever ;) |
| 20:23.57 | schumaml | but a new license shouldn't be necessary, people hardly get the existing ones |
| 20:24.24 | YuviPanda | schumaml: meh, Lawyers. |
| 20:24.25 | topfs2 | not most companies either |
| 20:24.32 | topfs2 | grumph grumph |
| 20:24.53 | kblin | topfs2: there's no network protocol samba. there's smb though, and some people tend to call that 'samba' |
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| 20:25.02 | schumaml | YuviPanda: no, laypersons |
| 20:25.19 | topfs2 | kblin, sorry :) that was the one I meant. Can't say I'm to read up on the subject |
| 20:25.35 | tulcod | nl students and mentors join #gsoc-nl |
| 20:25.53 | kblin | topfs2: but if you're talking about the software implenting smb on unix system, the short answer is "yes" |
| 20:25.55 | YuviPanda | schumaml: personally, I can't see the reasons for anything except GPL, LGPL and BSD |
| 20:25.56 | topfs2 | any swedish students around? |
| 20:26.04 | schumaml | who'll then create installer which force users to accept the gpl, tell them that they've been scammed if they paid for the software, ... |
| 20:26.18 | topfs2 | kblin, hehe. nice. love it. use it daily and it kicks as. |
| 20:26.23 | kblin | topfs2: it's not only you, I've seen many people who think the protocol is called samba :) |
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| 20:26.42 | kblin | the manual of my NAS box calls the protocol samba iirc |
| 20:27.03 | carols | sips tea on the open source couch |
| 20:27.10 | YuviPanda | counts for 5 mins to 02:00 -> THAT'S UNCAPPED INTERNET TIME! |
| 20:27.18 | thebolt | kblin: there actually is a boot-loader from Atmel that is named SAM-BA as well ;) |
| 20:27.33 | thebolt | (for the SAM7 and SAM9 processors) |
| 20:27.35 | smtms | samba is a nice way to pronounce SMB |
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| 20:28.40 | topfs2 | but kblin yeah, thats the wonders of oss. I hope to get to a conference about xbmc this year (have been occupied the other years) |
| 20:28.57 | topfs2 | would be fun socializing irl with the people you talk almost daily with on irc :) |
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| 20:31.14 | MatthewWilkes | topfs2: Its a very important part of OS, you get much smoother interaction with people online once you know them IRL |
| 20:31.17 | carols | waves at thebolt |
| 20:32.00 | MatthewWilkes | topfs2: In fact at sprints/hackathons the drinking afterwards is more important in many ways |
| 20:32.05 | YuviPanda | thebolt: you're in for pitivi right? |
| 20:32.39 | thebolt | hi carols |
| 20:32.43 | thebolt | YuviPanda: hm? |
| 20:32.50 | topfs2 | MatthewWilkes, yeah I hope that too. its very important to have a good wibe between the developers |
| 20:33.10 | thebolt | YuviPanda: I am not part of GSOC at all this year actually.. unfortunately I should say cause it is great |
| 20:33.36 | YuviPanda | thebolt: oh okay |
| 20:33.55 | thebolt | YuviPanda: i used to be a mentor and/or admin for Crystal Space 3D the last four years though |
| 20:34.03 | YuviPanda | thebolt: the PiTiVi student was named Thibault, so thought it might've been you. Sorry 'bout that |
| 20:34.18 | YuviPanda | thebolt: cool! |
| 20:34.34 | thebolt | YuviPanda: no problem :) |
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| 20:34.53 | thebolt | YuviPanda: so what is your involvement? |
| 20:35.06 | topfs2 | btw carols you send out mails about tax forms and such right? getting abit scared so I dont' forget doing something :) |
| 20:35.55 | carols | topfs2: you read my mind. :-) im sending it out in about...2 hours. so keep an eye on your inbox today :-) |
| 20:36.01 | carols | topfs2: you're good for now |
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| 20:36.37 | topfs2 | phiue :) |
| 20:36.38 | topfs2 | thx |
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| 20:37.43 | carols | topfs2: there will be info about goodies in the email too, but don't tell anyone i said that ;-) |
| 20:37.44 | carols | oh, darn |
| 20:37.48 | carols | channel logged |
| 20:37.49 | carols | oh well |
| 20:37.51 | YuviPanda | thebolt: GNOME student :) |
| 20:37.54 | mkarnicki | carols: i heard that xD! |
| 20:37.54 | topfs2 | haha |
| 20:37.56 | YuviPanda | thebolt: working on Cheese, the webcam app |
| 20:38.08 | carols | whistles and looks around innocently |
| 20:38.19 | topfs2 | I'll erase it from the log, but just because its you |
| 20:38.24 | mkarnicki | points with his finger.. and topfs2 xD |
| 20:38.32 | YuviPanda | wonders if anyone goes back and reads through the logs |
| 20:38.33 | mkarnicki | /s/and/at |
| 20:38.33 | topfs2 | calls down the amazing hacking skills! |
| 20:38.55 | thebolt | YuviPanda: ok, good luck with that :) |
| 20:39.01 | YuviPanda | thebolt: thanks :) |
| 20:39.22 | carols | was kidding |
| 20:39.30 | carols | i wouldn't have said it if i wasn't ok with people knowing it |
| 20:39.40 | carols | besides, it will all be moot in a couple hours anyway :-) |
| 20:39.43 | mkarnicki | carols: we know that ^ ^ |
| 20:39.54 | carols | just sayin' :-) |
| 20:39.56 | rohitr | waves at carols |
| 20:40.01 | topfs2 | done, now noone will know it ever existed ;) |
| 20:40.02 | mkarnicki | takes a cookie |
| 20:40.15 | carols | mm cookies |
| 20:40.17 | topfs2 | damnit, stop making me in the mood for cookies! :) |
| 20:40.23 | carols | waves at rohitr |
| 20:40.27 | carols | how you doing, rohitr? |
| 20:40.44 | rohitr | good, and you carol? |
| 20:40.45 | carols | serves some freshly baked chocolate chip cookies and some nice green and black teas |
| 20:41.04 | carols | rohitr: good thanks. busy as all get out trying to finish student stuff. its always something. :-) |
| 20:41.16 | mkarnicki | carols: uuu, party! |
| 20:41.26 | Catfish_Man | carols: the apple cafeteria was out of black iced tea today D: |
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| 20:41.32 | Catfish_Man | disaster! |
| 20:41.49 | rohitr | Did I hear some *things* about a N1 here ;) |
| 20:41.53 | carols | Catfish_Man: oh noes!! |
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| 20:42.24 | carols | gets in car to head down to 1 infinite loop |
| 20:43.09 | topfs2 | rohitr, :D |
| 20:43.09 | Catfish_Man | heh |
| 20:43.13 | carols | hey, Catfish_Man, we should do lunch some time. come to my place, i'll pay :-) |
| 20:43.35 | Catfish_Man | carols: sounds fun :) transportation is a little tricky for me being a non-driver, but I'm sure it's doable |
| 20:44.10 | YuviPanda | finishes up all the chocolate chip cookies before anyone else has a chance |
| 20:44.17 | carols | Catfish_Man: sweet. we are neighbors after all |
| 20:44.19 | carols | aw |
| 20:44.28 | carols | looks forlornly at the empty cookie tray |
| 20:44.40 | carols | finds the stash of stroopwafels from SRabbelier |
| 20:44.51 | Catfish_Man | chocolate. bleh ;P |
| 20:44.51 | carols | serves some coffee and stroopwafels |
| 20:44.52 | SRabbelier | NOooooooos |
| 20:44.52 | rohitr | nibbles on the ones I had hidden in my pocket |
| 20:44.58 | SRabbelier | my stroopwafels!! |
| 20:45.12 | carols | chuckles and munches stroopwafels |
| 20:45.14 | SRabbelier | cries out in despair |
| 20:45.22 | MatthewWilkes | what a silly word |
| 20:45.23 | SRabbelier | carols: why Carol, why? |
| 20:45.33 | SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: what is? |
| 20:45.38 | MatthewWilkes | stroopwafel |
| 20:45.43 | MatthewWilkes | it's so dutch |
| 20:45.57 | carols | SRabbelier: because they're so good! and because i'm all out already from my trip to .nl |
| 20:46.15 | rohitr | YuviPanda: you in IIIT H, right? |
| 20:46.26 | SRabbelier | carols: all out? how many packages did you eat?! |
| 20:46.34 | SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: yes, that makes it extra awesome |
| 20:46.53 | MatthewWilkes | I dunno why, but I've got a real craving for crumpets but don't have any |
| 20:47.00 | carols | whistles innocently |
| 20:47.09 | carols | SRabbelier: i have no idea what you're talking about |
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| 20:47.17 | MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: The best example of the dutch language is the intro to Ducktales |
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| 20:47.29 | SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: it is? :P |
| 20:47.33 | SRabbelier | it is awesome, I'll give you that |
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| 20:47.38 | YuviPanda | rohitr: nah, just a small time not-so-well-known college in Chennai (KCG) |
| 20:47.39 | SRabbelier | but if it's a great example, I don't know :P |
| 20:47.41 | MatthewWilkes | Yup, I've kind of learnt about half of it |
| 20:48.05 | kblin | night folks |
| 20:48.35 | YuviPanda | opens an actual packet of Hide and Seek (That's chocolate chip cookies) |
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| 20:48.51 | MatthewWilkes | het leven is een wervelstorm, hier in duckstad, autos lasers vliegmaschines, bliksems tis wat! |
| 20:48.58 | topfs2 | I love dutch, it sounds so swedish but with gibberish words |
| 20:49.01 | carols | night kblin |
| 20:49.29 | SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: not bad |
| 20:49.50 | SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: auto's, otherwise the 'o' would be pronounced wrong |
| 20:49.58 | rohitr | YuviPanda: ahh, I mistook you for somebody else, my bad. |
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| 20:50.01 | SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: and vliegmachines |
| 20:50.07 | thebolt | topfs2: well, written dutch isn't that hard to understand |
| 20:50.15 | thebolt | topfs2: esp if you know a bit of german as well |
| 20:50.27 | MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: German is overriding my typing :) |
| 20:50.52 | MatthewWilkes | topfs2: I was listening to Garmarna earlier, really great version of Herr Mannelig |
| 20:51.08 | MatthewWilkes | Much harder to understand than dutch as a non-speaker of the language, but bits made sense |
| 20:51.15 | topfs2 | thebolt, haven't read much, need to check that. I know that when someone nonswedish gues what I'm talking its always swedish or dutch :) |
| 20:51.38 | topfs2 | MatthewWilkes, Garmana? |
| 20:51.38 | thebolt | topfs2: when they don't confuse sweden with switzerland ;-) |
| 20:51.44 | MatthewWilkes | topfs2: spotify:track:1O93tX0EveCWat8UXCXAqz |
| 20:52.00 | topfs2 | oh I don't have spotify installed. Works to bad on linux :) |
| 20:52.27 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: not really the simplest of swedish to understand ;-) |
| 20:52.41 | topfs2 | is it this ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWY6GMYgGjI&a=jGf9NkALEtY&playnext_from=ML |
| 20:53.17 | MatthewWilkes | topfs2: yup |
| 20:53.18 | topfs2 | yeah not the most simplest swedish :) |
| 20:53.28 | topfs2 | mostly weirdish pronounciation |
| 20:53.33 | thebolt | hehe |
| 20:53.59 | MatthewWilkes | I can't comment on that ;) |
| 20:54.00 | thebolt | and somewhat old words/structure |
| 20:54.07 | MatthewWilkes | thebolt: It is a medieval text |
| 20:54.17 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: yea, I know :) |
| 20:54.28 | topfs2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caxZfX0jt-w |
| 20:54.32 | MatthewWilkes | Sorry, that should have been: It *is* a medieval text |
| 20:55.17 | topfs2 | don't know why but dutch and swedish sounds very similair, except when that german part shines through :) |
| 20:56.10 | topfs2 | ok youtube caught me now, this one is better :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbbxOUfFjyo&feature=related |
| 20:56.21 | topfs2 | closes youtube tab |
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| 20:57.26 | thebolt | better if you want to learn swedish is the "mastering swedish" "class" from slay radio ;) |
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| 20:57.42 | thebolt | they will teach you the really useful stuff :P |
| 20:58.31 | topfs2 | thebolt, your from sweden I guess? |
| 20:58.43 | thebolt | topfs2: yes |
| 20:58.46 | topfs2 | cool! |
| 20:58.53 | topfs2 | were and whats your project :) |
| 20:59.17 | thebolt | I'm from Linköping, and (used to be) part of Crystal Space 3D |
| 20:59.26 | thebolt | this year I am too busy with RealLife to participate in gsoc though |
| 20:59.34 | thebolt | so I am just a general hang-around here :) |
| 20:59.54 | thebolt | (been mentor and/or admin last 4 years) |
| 20:59.57 | topfs2 | oh right |
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| 21:00.02 | topfs2 | you said that before |
| 21:00.11 | topfs2 | many new nicks now :) |
| 21:00.13 | thebolt | how about you? xbmc mentor/admin I guess? |
| 21:00.14 | thebolt | hehe |
| 21:00.14 | thebolt | yea |
| 21:00.40 | topfs2 | myself is xbmc improvement to arm and general graphic improvement. For beagleboard |
| 21:00.44 | topfs2 | and from lund |
| 21:01.00 | thebolt | ah, cool |
| 21:01.13 | thebolt | i'm spending all my days currently on ARM stuff |
| 21:01.47 | topfs2 | cool! |
| 21:01.50 | YuviPanda | decides not to wait for the mail in two hours, and goes to sleep |
| 21:01.51 | thebolt | (designing hardware incorporating a couple of ARM-based chips.. and then writing software for them) |
| 21:01.56 | YuviPanda | goodnight everyone :) |
| 21:02.05 | topfs2 | so then your good at all that stuff I'm gonna learn? :) |
| 21:02.29 | MatthewWilkes | topfs2: Just curious, but what does scots look like to you? http://www.scots-online.org/reader/grimm.htm for example |
| 21:02.45 | thebolt | haha, probably not an expert yet.. but getting there ;) |
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| 21:05.05 | topfs2 | MatthewWilkes, abit weird. but I know alot of gaelic is shared with scandinavia in some ways |
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| 21:05.35 | topfs2 | some of the words are abit weirdish in english and looks abit like a middle of swedish and english |
| 21:05.46 | MatthewWilkes | topfs2: That's not gaelic, it's scots. It's a germanic language |
| 21:06.09 | topfs2 | oh thought it was scottlands thingy (iiii, making a fool of myself :) ) |
| 21:06.39 | MatthewWilkes | The languages spoken in the UK are English, Scots, Welsh, Cornish, Scots Gaelic and Irish Gaelic |
| 21:06.54 | MatthewWilkes | can't think of any more and those do range in popularity significantly |
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| 21:07.16 | mkarnicki | MatthewWilkes: I was in Wrexham, Wales, and heard Welsh maybe twice :) |
| 21:07.42 | Landon | heh |
| 21:07.49 | Landon | I was reading the wiki page on scots a while ago |
| 21:08.02 | Landon | found it entertaining that many speakers misidentified it as poor english |
| 21:08.02 | Landon | :) |
| 21:08.15 | topfs2 | afaik scots gaelic should have some similairites atleast |
| 21:09.29 | thebolt | well, you have some words in general english of swedish/scandinavian origin (really old swedish is hard to distinguish from old norse etc) |
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| 21:10.39 | topfs2 | lots of swedish words you can easily follow down to english by changing just a few things |
| 21:10.45 | thebolt | from old times you can find "knife" and "window".. (and "barn" in scots) |
| 21:10.49 | thebolt | topfs2: i ment the other way around |
| 21:11.11 | thebolt | then more recent are "smorgasboard" and "ombudsman" ;) |
| 21:11.18 | topfs2 | sure :) |
| 21:12.23 | topfs2 | uhm, googleing on scots gaelic, I think I might have confused it with something else. It makes zero sense :) |
| 21:13.03 | MatthewWilkes | topfs2: Yes, you're probably thinking of scots. As I said, they are very different languages |
| 21:13.31 | topfs2 | MatthewWilkes, yeah probably |
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| 21:18.52 | rohitr | 'night everyone |
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| 21:44.44 | darkip | hey, is there anyone around who can sort out a mailing-list issue for me? |
| 21:46.49 | thiago_home | 23 hours and 40 minutes ago: |
| 21:46.52 | thiago_home | 00:06 < darkip> hi, is there anyone here who can sort out a mailing-list issue for me? |
| 21:47.07 | darkip | eh? |
| 21:47.20 | thiago_home | you said that 23 hours and 40 minutes ago |
| 21:47.23 | darkip | yep |
| 21:47.26 | darkip | thought i'd try again? |
| 21:48.00 | thiago_home | maybe if you gave some information... |
| 21:48.08 | thiago_home | no one can help you with just that line |
| 21:48.17 | darkip | basically, i'm subscribed under a different email to that of my GSoC google account |
| 21:48.24 | darkip | so can't access the students list |
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| 21:50.49 | pyry` | carols, are you around to field questions? |
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| 21:51.07 | carols | pyry`: yep! |
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| 21:51.11 | pyry` | great :> |
| 21:51.20 | pyry` | So, for proof of enrollment, the website says: "a transcript or course list (official or unofficial is fine) showing the courses you were enrolled in as of 26 April 2010." |
| 21:51.29 | pyry` | would a screenshot from the school's enrollment system be acceptable? |
| 21:52.01 | baer | great, i have a question too ;) |
| 21:52.24 | baer | carols: is there a new foreign certification form? the one linked in the text is saying gsoc 2009 |
| 21:52.33 | dennda | student id card not sufficient anymore? |
| 21:53.02 | carols | pyry`: yes, that's ok |
| 21:53.09 | carols | dennda: that's ok if it has the year |
| 21:53.27 | carols | baer: ah, darn, forgot to check that. let me look into ti |
| 21:53.48 | baer | ;) |
| 21:54.10 | mkarnicki | carols: got your mail :) |
| 21:54.18 | carols | mkarnicki: cool. :-) |
| 21:54.36 | pyry` | carols: ah, can you send out an email about the foreign certification form if there's an updated version? :> |
| 21:54.37 | baer | hopefully nobody else on the mailinglist will notice until it is fixed |
| 21:54.47 | carols | yes, i will :-) |
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| 21:56.59 | pyry` | carols: thanks! |
| 21:57.08 | carols | pyry`: happy to oblige |
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| 22:03.44 | mambro | hi |
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| 22:04.24 | sjhor_ | yay ACM! |
| 22:04.33 | mambro | can you confirm me that if i work outside US i just need to send to Google the foreign certification form? |
| 22:05.03 | mkarnicki | mambro: no, please read the mail carefully |
| 22:05.16 | mkarnicki | mambro: proof of enrollment AND foreign certification form |
| 22:05.24 | mambro | oh yeah, sure |
| 22:05.32 | mkarnicki | i spilled the juice seeing your question :P |
| 22:05.40 | mambro | but nothing more about taxes, right? |
| 22:05.48 | mkarnicki | mambro: right. |
| 22:05.57 | mambro | mkarnicki: thanks |
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| 22:06.21 | mkarnicki | carols: people can be picky. shouldn't the phrase in Deadlines "In other words, if you send us your tax form and proof of enrollment on 17 May 2010" say "before/on 17 May 2010" ? |
| 22:06.44 | mkarnicki | carols: I just want to avoid people waiting till 17 of May haha |
| 22:06.52 | carols | mkarnicki: sure, that works too. they can also send it on May 17 if they want to wait :-) |
| 22:06.54 | carols | up to them |
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| 22:07.07 | mkarnicki | carols: ah ok :) |
| 22:07.24 | carols | mkarnicki: as long as its not May 18 its all good |
| 22:07.38 | mkarnicki | carols: I just hope students won't take that literally and send it *on* 17th, not before. ok, it's fine then. :) |
| 22:07.51 | carols | mkarnicki: oh, they can send it *on* the 17th if they like |
| 22:07.54 | carols | that's fine with me |
| 22:08.35 | mkarnicki | carols: understood :) |
| 22:09.24 | mkarnicki | carols: will you be responding to each mail like 'got it! your docs are fine' or just by the spreadsheet to be mentioned on the mailing list? |
| 22:10.03 | carols | mkarnicki: i will respond to emails with a "got it!" but the spreadsheet will get updated as well as soon as I post it for everyone to verify |
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| 22:10.45 | mkarnicki | carols: thank you very much :) |
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| 22:10.56 | carols | mkarnicki: you are more than welcome. |
| 22:11.00 | mkarnicki | =) |
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| 22:11.28 | darkip | carols: I'm not sure if you saw my issue above? Is there any specific person I should talk to about this issue? |
| 22:11.43 | carldani | meh. http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list/web/2009_foreign_certification.pdf gives me a permission error (and yes, I'm signed in and can view my student project just fine) |
| 22:12.02 | carols | carldani: yes, im looking into it. |
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| 22:12.08 | carols | darkip: looking at scrollback now |
| 22:12.18 | carldani | carols: thanks! |
| 22:12.21 | darkip | thanks! |
| 22:12.45 | carols | darkip: send me an email with the email that's currently subscribed and the email you want subscribed instead |
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| 22:15.04 | darkip | carols: sent |
| 22:15.16 | carols | darkip: thanks, ill get to it as soon as i get a free minute |
| 22:15.21 | darkip | thanks again |
| 22:15.52 | tulcod | carols: the pdf linked in "Accepted Student Information" can only be read by gmail users |
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| 22:16.18 | carldani | tulcod: actually, I'm signing in with my gmail account and I can't read it |
| 22:16.20 | mkarnicki | tulcod: you just have to sign in with a google account. you don't need 'gmail' |
| 22:16.34 | tulcod | mkarnicki: i'm logged in |
| 22:16.43 | tulcod | but i'm not using my gmail address as email address for gsoc |
| 22:16.46 | mkarnicki | tulcod: it works for me.. |
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| 22:17.20 | tulcod | mkarnicki: are you using gmail as gsoc address? |
| 22:17.22 | carldani | tulcod: I'm not using my gmail address as email address for gsoc either |
| 22:17.33 | mkarnicki | tulcod: true |
| 22:17.40 | tulcod | mkarnicki: well there's the difference |
| 22:18.19 | darkip | mkarnicki: you're in the same boat as me |
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| 22:18.27 | darkip | subscribed under a different email to your google account |
| 22:18.29 | mkarnicki | tulcod: i see |
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| 22:19.01 | mkarnicki | darkip: you're in the same boat as tulcod i think.. i'm subscribed with gmail account, it works for me. |
| 22:19.16 | carldani | tulcod, darkip: I bet you can't access your soc mailing list subscriptions either |
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| 22:19.36 | tulcod | carldani: ... which makes sense |
| 22:19.40 | darkip | yep |
| 22:20.02 | darkip | tulcod: talk to carols and she'll change your subscribed email for you |
| 22:20.19 | tulcod | is that the only possible solution? |
| 22:20.24 | darkip | I think so |
| 22:20.35 | carldani | my browser doesn't work with gmail, so that option is a no-go for me |
| 22:22.44 | mkarnicki | carols: what browser are you using? |
| 22:22.50 | mkarnicki | carols: opps typo, sorry |
| 22:22.55 | mkarnicki | carldani: what browser are you using? |
| 22:22.57 | carols | mkarnicki: chrome, of course :-) |
| 22:23.04 | mkarnicki | carols: hahah, right ;) |
| 22:23.15 | carldani | mkarnicki: seamonkey 1.1 |
| 22:23.34 | carldani | mkarnicki: I could use w3m if that helps, but I haven't tested it with gmail so far |
| 22:23.46 | tulcod | carols: can you do something about the PDFs or should we all switch to gmail after all to download the forms? |
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| 22:24.20 | carols | tulcod: switch to gmail? |
| 22:24.21 | carols | j/k |
| 22:24.23 | carols | :-) |
| 22:24.32 | carols | tulcod: ill fix that when i fix the foreign cert form |
| 22:24.36 | carldani | tulcod: in theory one person with gmail could download them and upload them to a public location, then send the link to the list |
| 22:24.49 | tulcod | carols: alright, thanks a lot :) |
| 22:24.54 | carldani | carols: thank you |
| 22:25.05 | carols | carldani: yw |
| 22:25.09 | mkarnicki | carldani: what's the problem with seamonkey? i've just logged into gmail with seamonkey :) |
| 22:25.18 | tulcod | carldani: well yeah, that would be possible, if only it made sense ;) |
| 22:25.25 | carldani | mkarnicki: seamonkey 1.1? |
| 22:25.33 | tulcod | uzbl ftw |
| 22:25.45 | mkarnicki | carldani: oops.. 2.0.4 =_= sorry.. |
| 22:25.47 | mkarnicki | blushes |
| 22:26.06 | mkarnicki | carldani: by the way, no option you could update your browser? |
| 22:26.41 | tulcod | guys, use uzbl |
| 22:26.44 | tulcod | it's for the 1337 |
| 22:27.23 | carldani | mkarnicki: No, that would break the plugins and other stuff I'm using. |
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| 22:28.08 | mkarnicki | tulcod: are u kidding me.. this looks like a browser in terminal xD http://user-agent-string.info/pub/img/ua_screenshots/uzbl.png |
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| 22:28.18 | carldani | tulcod: I've been programming for the last 20 years and I'm proud not to be 1337. |
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| 22:28.31 | Kacper_Rze | !logs |
| 22:28.31 | socinfo | "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
| 22:28.40 | tulcod | mkarnicki: hehe, it's a browser without the stuff you don't need... its interface is much like vim |
| 22:28.55 | carldani | Besides that, w3m with image support is pretty good and ensures I get readable text. |
| 22:29.02 | MatthewWilkes | carldani: Of course you're not, nobody's that old. It's ridiculous. |
| 22:29.05 | tulcod | the only problem is that there are some "minor" bugs which frankly break most of the modern websites out there |
| 22:29.12 | tulcod | like... javascript links |
| 22:29.25 | tulcod | once those are fixed, i'll definitely start using it |
| 22:29.30 | mkarnicki | tulcod: awesome !!! |
| 22:29.59 | tulcod | yeah, i also use the awesome window manager |
| 22:31.04 | mkarnicki | tulcod: no f way :D u use the awesome awesome also? |
| 22:31.11 | mkarnicki | tulcod: I look up to you ;D |
| 22:31.30 | carldani | I don't get this web 2.0 thing with animated stuff anyway. I want my web to be like a newspaper. Nothing moves unless I request it, and it should be readable offline. Oh, and black/white text in readable font size. |
| 22:31.41 | tulcod | mkarnicki: nah, i skipped that, i'm using god-mode awesomeness as personality |
| 22:31.47 | mkarnicki | carldani: is changing the mail the only option to have acces to those sites? |
| 22:32.01 | mkarnicki | tulcod: xD . i suggested awesome to my geek friend. he loves it. |
| 22:32.21 | tulcod | carldani: hm, good idea, websites should also be published in raw text... |
| 22:32.30 | tulcod | no links, no clicks, no nothing. just txt |
| 22:32.47 | tulcod | mkarnicki: have you tried it? |
| 22:32.58 | Catfish_Man | tulcod: I'd have to actually go shopping then D: |
| 22:33.09 | mkarnicki | tulcod: awesome? sure.. but I gave up, GNOME seemed to suit me better, at least for now ;) |
| 22:33.09 | carldani | mkarnicki: is awesome window manager somehow ion related? |
| 22:33.21 | tulcod | carldani: they're both dynamic... |
| 22:33.22 | mkarnicki | carldani: ion? I'm not sure.. |
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| 22:33.40 | tulcod | but seriously guys, using a non-floating window manager is so much better |
| 22:33.47 | carldani | Admittedly I use fvwm2. Lightweight, works, no need to change my beloved keyboard shortcuts in the last 10 years. |
| 22:33.49 | mkarnicki | who had the problem with nongmail address apart from carldani ?? |
| 22:33.50 | tulcod | you'll need to get used to it, alright, but once you see its power... |
| 22:33.58 | tulcod | mkarnicki: me! me! |
| 22:34.16 | mkarnicki | tulcod: oh! so.. did changing your e-mail to the gmail one help? |
| 22:34.28 | tulcod | mkarnicki: i'd need carol's help |
| 22:34.38 | tulcod | and she said she'd fix the pdf thing, so i guess i'll just wait |
| 22:34.48 | mkarnicki | tulcod: ah.. so you haven't tried yet. well.. my friend has a similar problem now |
| 22:34.50 | mkarnicki | ok |
| 22:34.55 | tulcod | but ah - while there are a lot of dynamic window managers, i personally really like awesome because it's so damn configurable |
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| 22:35.08 | sanjoyd | I take it that the payment card and the goodies will be shipped to the shipping address and not the contact address? |
| 22:35.08 | RoAkSoAx | carols, Hi there! I was wondering if there are any updates on the email I sent on Friday (Important question on Employment dates and CPT)? |
| 22:35.28 | tulcod | i mean, i have 9 virtual desktops (mine are numbered, but you can give them names), and firefox and chromium always start on the first, xchat always on the fourth... it's so sweet |
| 22:35.43 | tulcod | adding your own toolbar widgets is as easy as writing bash scripts |
| 22:36.13 | carols | RoAkSoAx: yes, the update is, I'm checking with the lawyers. :-) |
| 22:36.17 | mkarnicki | tulcod: exactly ;D i love writing bash scripts, but some might not.. that's the key |
| 22:36.26 | mkarnicki | tulcod: bah! you can use lua to configure awesome :) |
| 22:36.30 | tulcod | yeah |
| 22:36.35 | tulcod | which is way easier than bash XD |
| 22:36.50 | tulcod | you'll need to find the right apis and stuff though, so that makes it a bit harder |
| 22:36.52 | mkarnicki | tulcod: was that sarcasm :D ? lua is fun also |
| 22:37.05 | RoAkSoAx | carols, awesome. I'll wait for further updates then. Thank you. :). |
| 22:37.10 | tulcod | no, lua really is a great language |
| 22:37.15 | tulcod | it's fast, simple, minimalistic... |
| 22:37.23 | mkarnicki | tulcod: all in all, though I may not use awesome, awesome is still awesome. I would just have to get used to it. |
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| 22:37.35 | tulcod | mkarnicki: just pick a date and start using it on that date |
| 22:37.50 | tulcod | and don't ask how others use it, use it like you feel fits |
| 22:38.10 | tulcod | oh - and print out a sheet with common shortcuts |
| 22:39.11 | mkarnicki | tulcod: I wouldn't last 10 minutes without some sort of cheet sheet, so that's pretty obvious ;D |
| 22:39.18 | tulcod | hehe |
| 22:39.22 | tulcod | well, i gotta go sleep |
| 22:39.28 | mkarnicki | have a good night |
| 22:39.32 | tulcod | 0:38 out here lol |
| 22:39.34 | mkarnicki | it's just 0:39 here |
| 22:39.38 | mkarnicki | lol |
| 22:39.46 | mkarnicki | I'm getting up at 7, u ? |
| 22:39.56 | tulcod | darn, 8 |
| 22:40.09 | mkarnicki | I'll read on some android sdk and I'm leaving too |
| 22:40.12 | mkarnicki | have a good night |
| 22:40.19 | tulcod | hehe, cya guys |
| 22:40.47 | mkarnicki | yeah, c you all. good night. |
| 22:41.34 | carldani | carols: I'll watch the mailing list. |
| 22:41.42 | carldani | Good night everyone! |
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| 22:53.21 | mkarnicki | carldani: you still here? |
| 22:53.46 | mkarnicki | frickn'.. again typo |
| 22:53.50 | mkarnicki | carols: you still here? |
| 22:53.56 | carols | mkarnicki: yes |
| 22:53.58 | carols | what up? |
| 22:54.28 | mkarnicki | carols: just to be clear, i thought we get 5k in total. you wrote in the documents: initial 500 and then 2,5k plus 2,5k. that right? |
| 22:54.41 | carols | i wrote 500 + 2255 + 2255 |
| 22:54.48 | carols | well, sorry 505 + 2255 + 2255 |
| 22:54.57 | mkarnicki | carols: right, ok then.. clear enough :) |
| 22:55.03 | mkarnicki | carols: thank you. |
| 22:55.06 | topfs2 | ok, everyone, chim in and say carols didn't write that :) |
| 22:55.14 | carols | mkarnicki: is my math correct? it was never my strong suit :-) |
| 22:55.34 | mkarnicki | carols: no no, it's fine. i just thought we get less (silly me? :P) |
| 22:55.52 | mkarnicki | carols: ok, it's me.. I'm a bit tired |
| 22:56.05 | mkarnicki | carols: the $500 for the org is not included in those calculations :d |
| 22:56.06 | carols | mkarnicki: no worries. glad to hear something's working as it should :-) |
| 22:56.16 | carols | mkarnicki: nope! thats why its the student info page :-) |
| 22:56.27 | mkarnicki | carols: haha, everything ticking well :) thanks. |
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| 22:56.43 | carols | np |
| 22:57.00 | mkarnicki | carols: probably i misread 2255 for 2555 which makes a difference ;d |
| 22:57.12 | mkarnicki | everything clear now. sorry to bother. |
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| 22:57.20 | carols | mkarnicki: no problem at all. |
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| 23:04.52 | sanjoyd | carols, my contact address != my shipping address. I take it that the goodies + payment card will be sent to the shipping address? |
| 23:05.18 | carols | sanjoyd: yes. things that i ship i ship to shipping addresses. :-) |
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| 23:06.52 | sanjoyd | carols, Thanks. BTW I just updated my shipping address. Will that be a problem? |
| 23:07.29 | carols | sanjoyd: not at all, i haven't shipped anything yet. |
| 23:07.38 | carols | i just finished getting all the payments set up. :-) |
| 23:07.58 | jdamcd | presume people are being added to the student mailing list gradually? feel like I'm missing out :P |
| 23:08.15 | sanjoyd | carols, Thanks! :) |
| 23:08.24 | vshader | is away: Gone away for now |
| 23:08.27 | carols | sanjoyd: yw |
| 23:08.40 | carols | jdamcd: send me an email, i can add you |
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| 23:18.14 | vshader | is back. |
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| 23:41.28 | tylercurtis | Do GSoC students absolutely have to wait until May 24 to start working on their projects? |
| 23:41.49 | alinrus | no :)) |
| 23:43.07 | vgvgf | only officialy, you can start now. This bonding period is extra time for learning the project and community |
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| 23:50.25 | carols | tylercurtis: you might find this useful: http://googlesummerofcode.blogspot.com/2007/04/so-what-is-this-community-bonding-all.html |
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