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02:34.04skbohragood morning fellas
02:34.24skbohracoding starts today. All the best to all students.
02:34.57skbohrawho handles gsoc twitter account ?
02:35.06skbohraits almost dead .
02:35.11summatusmentisit used to be lh
02:35.16skbohrai see
02:35.23summatusmentisI'm not sure if it got passed on
02:35.30skbohramust have been
02:45.34rrixStarts today? I've been working for weeks now ;)
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08:44.57vjsamuel!next
08:44.57socinfo"next" is (#1) The community bonding period (http://tinyurl.com/4w3kfm) has started! Coding will start on May 24., or (#2) For more info on what's coming up after this see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6
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08:55.51ojwbsocinfo: learn next as Coding started on 24th May - see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 for the timeline
08:55.52socinfoThe operation succeeded.
08:55.57ojwbsocinfo: forget next 1 2
08:55.57socinfoError: There is no such factoid.
08:56.02ojwbsocinfo: forget next 1
08:56.02socinfoThe operation succeeded.
08:56.04ojwbsocinfo: forget next 2
08:56.05socinfoThe operation succeeded.
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08:58.23ihalip!next
08:58.23socinfo"next" is For more info on what's coming up after this see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6
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09:13.38xnox!next
09:13.38socinfo"next" is For more info on what's coming up after this see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6
09:13.43xnox=(
09:13.49xnoxbetter start coding ;-)
09:14.16vjsamuelxnox: yes... :)
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09:14.54xnoxI did fix random bugs already ;-) and my taxforms are ok. I just have start doing the tasks that are in my proposal =P
09:15.17vjsamuelxnox: nice.
09:15.30vjsamuelxnox: which project are you working for?
09:15.39xnoxUbuntu - USB-creator
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09:15.55ojwbhmm, seems I goofed there then
09:15.58vjsamuelxnox: nice.
09:16.00xnoxsoon will do an upload to Debian to get more users ;-)
09:16.00ojwbsocinfo: learn next as Coding started on 24th May - see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 for the timeline
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09:16.12vjsamuel:)
09:16.17ojwbah, delete 2 deleted the *new* 2nd one
09:16.18xnoxCan we have GSOC 2010 planet to syndicate all our blogs?
09:16.35xnox!next
09:16.35socinfo"next" is Coding started on 24th May - see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 for the timeline
09:16.40ojwbi think there's been a planet in past years
09:16.41xnox=))) yeah it works ;-)
09:17.08xnoxI'm syndicated on Ubuntu Planet but that was even before GSoC started
09:17.21kblinxnox: last I heard angie byron ran the planet-soc site
09:17.37kblinbut I haven't seen her around in a while
09:19.06ojwbplanet-soc.com seems to be a domain squatter now - not sure if that was it before
09:19.17kblinaha
09:21.14kblinweird
09:22.50kblinlooks like someone dropped that domain then
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09:23.09ojwbor else it wasn't that
09:23.22kblinhttp://twitter.com/PlanetSoC
09:23.32kblinlinks to planet-soc.com as well
09:24.01ojwbsounds like it was
09:24.07ojwbshame
09:24.08dhaunI still have http://planet-soc.com/rss.xml in my feed reader from last year ...
09:24.18dhaungoes to delete it
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09:39.49lhellyerhi all
09:40.13GGhi
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09:41.16lhellyerquick question, has anyone received their payment card yet?
09:41.39GGno i didn't
09:42.28lhellyerok, me neither (I'm in the UK if it makes any difference), just wanting to check things hadn't got lost in the post
09:42.58GG<PROTECTED>
09:43.55lhellyerok, I remember someone saying something about FedEx - so I guess once I receive the email I can track it
09:44.02pauloricardomgdidn't get mine
09:44.06pauloricardomgI'm in spain
09:46.02GG:) dont worry
09:47.56lhellyerGC: thanks for the info
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11:47.40socinfo"next" is Coding started on 24th May - see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 for the timeline
11:48.22splovinghi all,  has  the credit  card been sent to the students?
11:48.53skbohrait will be announced on students list
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15:03.33shreyas!next
15:03.33socinfo"next" is Coding started on 24th May - see http://bit.ly/c3NYw6 for the timeline
15:04.12thiago_homethat's not "next" :-)
15:04.18thiago_homethat's "current" :-)
15:05.05shreyas:)
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15:07.44MatthewWilkes*bounces*
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15:08.00MatthewWilkesThe police have finally given in on my illegal data retention complaint!
15:08.15MatthewWilkes"Your fingerprints will be shredded forthwith, and the 2 mouth swabs will be destroyed by way of incineration"
15:08.19MatthewWilkeswinrar!
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15:12.15LandonMatthewWilkes: you should ask that they be incinerated by means of a trip to the sun
15:14.59MatthewWilkesLandon: It took them 6 months to get them to agree to even incinerate them
15:15.05MatthewWilkeseven though they were legally obliged to a year ago
15:20.01xnox!timeline
15:20.01socinfo"timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG
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15:41.09ojwbMatthewWilkes: shredding your fingerprints sounds painful
15:43.10MatthewWilkesojwb: They're tough but fair in birmingham.
15:43.15MatthewWilkesI thought that too, yeah
15:43.44ojwbbut good news
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15:45.57MatthewWilkesVery much so.
15:46.18MatthewWilkesI'm one of that elite group of people that have got the police to perform their legal duties.
15:46.51MatthewWilkesLike my mate Jon who gave permission to be entered onto the DNA database while in a coma in Frenchay hospital's neurosurgery centre.
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16:04.20aishumoorthy!next
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16:31.11kimeltomorning!
16:32.17vjsamuelcarols: thank you for the update regarding the shipments.
16:32.26carolsvjsamuel: you're welcome.
16:32.40MatthewWilkesgood morning carols!
16:32.46merwokHi carols
16:32.52carolsgood morning MatthewWilkes!
16:32.55carolsgood morning merwok
16:33.02carolsserves some tea and coffee
16:33.11merwokI think about you when I have cookies now :o
16:33.34merwokIs it only morning where you are? 18:33 here.
16:33.37aghislaoffers waffels
16:33.49MatthewWilkescarols: Are you free for a quick pm?
16:34.33carolsMatthewWilkes: of course
16:34.38carolsmmm waffels
16:34.43carolsmunches some waffels
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16:45.35brikcarols: is that around the 7th for everyone (including us europeans)?
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16:48.53carolsbrik: yes, they are going out in shipments of 100/day starting on the 2nd, so on or around the 7th for everyone
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16:50.01brikcarols: ok, thanks :)
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17:49.09carolsserves tea and cookies
17:49.25carolsplops down on the open source couch and munches cookies
17:49.33Catfish_Manjoins carols and sips tea
17:49.44carolsmorning Catfish_Man :-)
17:49.50Catfish_Mang'day carols :)
17:49.50Catfish_Mancuppa hot english breakfast was definitely the highlight of the morning so far
17:50.02carolsit is monday, after all.
17:50.10Catfish_Manit confirmed my suspicion that my headache and general ickiness were caffeine withdrawal symptoms
17:50.15merwokhas had speculoos with molten chocolate for teatime a couple hours ago
17:50.18Catfish_Manwhich means I've definitively lost that addiction battle; sigh
17:50.24merwokOne of the best mondays so far o/
17:50.55mdcAlright, we're off and running with GSoC 2010 coding :)
17:50.58mdchttp://etherboot.org/wiki/soc/2010/start
17:51.19mdcAlways looks forward to it!
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17:51.50merwokIs this etherboot something like PXE? (Network boot)
17:52.24mdcmerwok: Yes, our gPXE firmware is an FOSS PXE implementation with significant extensions
17:52.43mdclike HTTP booting and SAN booting like iSCSI and AoE
17:53.13mdcA lot of cool features have been added by GSoC students over our 5 GSoCs :)
17:53.38merwokNot sure HTTP is the right protocol for that, but nice project! Cheers!
17:53.39mdcboot.kernel.org and netboot.me use gPXE to offer network booting over the internet :)
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17:53.52merwokI hope it uses SSL :D
17:54.04mdcmerwok: It can :)
17:54.20mdcWe are also working on trusted boot with signed images and SHA-1
17:54.28mdceverything in good time :)
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18:18.15YuviPandais done with GSoC coding for the day and is relaxing (It's almost midnight here)
18:18.39ChainsawJust gone 7pm here :)
18:19.02YuviPanda10 more mins till the end of first 'official day of coding', maybe I should get one more commit in...
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18:36.31aghislahave a nice $timeofday everyone, see you tomorrow!
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18:49.38xnoxwas drafting specs, workitems & arguing on mailing-lists / bug tracker today =(
18:50.46YuviPanday'know, I wonder if there's a way, a simple way for us to share progress...
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18:51.14xnoxgsoc2010 group on identi.ca?
18:51.38xnoxI would like gsoc2010 planet but i don't have time / knowledge to set it up.....
18:51.47xnoxmaybe a blogger blog with common access?
18:52.21YuviPandaxnox: maybe a simple app with openid login...
18:52.30merwokSome orgs with more than one accepted student have a planet.
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18:52.42YuviPandais part of GNOME planet <3
18:52.52xnoxidenti.ca & blogger support open ID =)
18:52.58xnoxis part of Ubuntu planet
18:53.12xnoxwants GSoC 2010 planet for all students from all orgs though
18:54.15YuviPandamaybe I could set it up...
18:54.34ChainsawYuviPanda: That'd be neat. I'd read it :)
18:55.25YuviPandaokay then!
18:55.28YuviPandaI'll set it up!
18:55.44YuviPandaPlanet GSoC
18:57.28merwokYou really want to read new from 1025 students?
18:58.13summatusmentisthere was a Planet GSoC setup in 07
18:58.18summatusmentiscourtesy of drupla
18:58.20YuviPandasummatusmentis: did anyone read it?
18:58.22summatusmentisdrupal*
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18:58.36summatusmentisYuviPanda: I have no idea, I know I didn't because of the massive quantity
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19:01.54YuviPandamaybe something that tracks all our repositories and shows commits?
19:06.10summatusmentiswhat's the overarching goal?
19:06.30YuviPandasummatusmentis: keep track of what every gsocer is doing...
19:06.36YuviPandaI guess?
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19:08.09gevaertsYou want everyone to post status updates in yet another place?
19:09.30summatusmentisno, I think YuviPanda is talking about automatic
19:09.40summatusmentistracking commits might work ok
19:09.58summatusmentisbut that would require access to every projects version control system
19:10.08gevaertsA page that tracks commits from every student would be horrendous
19:10.09summatusmentisand plugging into all of them, and aggregating it
19:10.33summatusmentisoh, it would be very hard to get through
19:10.59jcreighsome orgs (eg, Python Software Foundation) require the students to have blogs and post weekly status updates
19:11.13summatusmentisothers have no such requirement
19:11.31tulcodomfg, organizations /require/ students to run blogs?
19:11.39gevaertsand others want mailing list posts
19:11.52tulcodML posts i can understand... but blogs?
19:11.54tulcodthat's just sick
19:12.04Kosmasome do
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19:13.08summatusmentistulcod: writing is writing, why does it matter where it's located?
19:13.11YuviPandayeah, GNOME requires weekly updates - compulsory in ML and optionally in blogs
19:13.29YuviPandasummatusmentis: don't most projects offer public access to their vcs?
19:13.43YuviPandarealizes that such a project would be a major piece of software by itself
19:14.02merwoktulcod, my blog for PSF will be hand-crafted static pages :)
19:14.05summatusmentisYuviPanda: well, I mean, yes, but probably not "install a plugin on the server running our vcs so you can track updates"
19:14.33YuviPandano, i'll just have to poll them once in a while...
19:14.36gevaertsmerwok: or a mail archiver, which you Cc: :)
19:14.46tulcodsummatusmentis: blogs are *very* public, so those orgs are basically forcing students to publish themselves
19:14.58YuviPanda's blog is *already* static pages ;)
19:15.23merwokgevaerts, I use and like email more and more, but I’ve not reached the stage where I use server-side filters or robots.
19:15.25summatusmentistulcod: many organizations have publically read-able mailing lists too
19:15.47tulcodyeah, but noone sane ever reads mailing list archives :P
19:15.57merwokis insane
19:16.07gevaertsA blog also forces other people to use an extra channel
19:16.31summatusmentisgevaerts: yeah, that's possible
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19:16.41merwoklikes coding with The Doors playing
19:16.42summatusmentisprobably less true for orgs like drupal, but yes
19:17.00tulcodmerwok: you should try dance music
19:17.06tulcodit works surprisingly well
19:17.07YuviPandalikes coding with Classical Music playing
19:17.13summatusmentisnot that drupal doesn't use MLs, but more that they're likely already blogging/reading
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19:17.27merwokActually, I’m reviewing and criticizing today, not coding.
19:17.36YuviPandaofflate prefers silence + dark room to coding
19:17.39tulcodYuviPanda: not bach, i hope?
19:17.39gevaertslikes the status updates of gsoc students in his organisation just coming in automatically with the other mail
19:17.41merwoktulcod, I think I don’t have dance music :)
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19:17.53summatusmentistulcod: go get some, it's worth it
19:17.54merwokYuviPanda, dark is bad for the eyes.
19:17.59tulcodmerwok: eh... this is the internet, if you want something you can get it :P
19:18.12summatusmentisalso, I HAVE to have music playing while I work
19:18.14tulcodsummatusmentis: what, classical music
19:18.15tulcod?
19:18.25merwoktulcod, I have a song entitled “I Can’t Stand Dance Music”
19:18.33summatusmentistulcod: dance music
19:18.34merwokIt’s actually a nice bit of dance music (:
19:18.56YuviPandatulcod: assorted collection.
19:19.00tulcodmerwok: well, except for coding, i can't /really/ stand it either
19:19.09merwokMy favorite classical piece of music is the Slaves Choir from Verdis’s Nabucco
19:19.09YuviPandatulcod: rhythmbox tells me last played woas Beethoven's Piano COncerto 5
19:19.22tulcodyuck, popular classical music stinks
19:19.30YuviPandamerwok: yeah, bad for eyes. But feels good, and helps me focus
19:19.36YuviPandahates the alt-tab key
19:19.41YuviPandas/key/key combo/
19:19.58merwokloves openbox
19:20.01tulcodawesome ftw :P
19:20.08gevaertstulcod: are you saying that your opinion about music depends on that of other people?
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19:20.15YuviPandais using.... GNOME!
19:20.22merwokMy windwo manager lets me stip decorations for a window, so I don’t lose screen estate :)
19:20.25tulcodYuviPanda: yeah, me too, but with awesome as wm
19:20.34tulcodgevaerts: classical music doesn't make sense after hearing it for a 4th time
19:20.37YuviPandatulcod: i tried awesome about 4 months back
19:20.52YuviPandatulcod: came back in about a day. Don't see the advantages
19:20.56gevaertsdisagrees with tulcod
19:21.13YuviPandadisagrees with tulcod
19:21.27gevaertsSome of it only starts making sense after the twenty seventh time
19:21.43YuviPandaO Fortuna might be overused, but it still is awesome.
19:22.00tulcodyou don't "analyze" classical music, you have to see the greatness of the author the first time you hear it
19:22.22gevaertsYou'll miss lots of subtlety the first time
19:22.27tulcodtrue
19:22.40gevaertsMusic that gets boring after the third time is bad music
19:22.48tulcodbut if you missed it the first time, you'll miss it forever
19:22.57gevaertsno
19:23.02gevaertsIt's the same as with books
19:23.06tulcodmusic gets boring after the third time, period
19:23.51YuviPanda:|
19:24.07YuviPandacan listen to Bohemian Rhapsody 1000 times and not get bored
19:24.43tulcodthat's because you don't listen to music, but listen to the stuff you've heard before and like recognizing stuff
19:25.03tulcodit's not hard to start liking stravinsky after listening to it 5 times
19:25.14tulcodyou have to appreciate it the first time to /really/ like it
19:26.05tulcod(stravinsky was a fucking genius btw)
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20:00.54MostAwesomeDudeBoy, I'm sure glad I never play any song the same way twice.
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