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05:47.14bkgoodwhat's the world come to, the first truly interesting on-topic post to gsoc-students has an off-topic header flag
05:47.53Catfish_Manhahaha
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06:46.28mlankhorstthe rest is whining about the money?
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06:50.33bkgoodor why carols isn't flying to $HOMECOUNTRY to hold a gsoc meetup at the local google office
06:51.22mlankhorst'we at google have perfected our cloning facilities and are now able to accomodate all 200 countries with their own copy of carols' :)
06:51.39Catfish_Manputting the 's' suffix in 'carols'
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06:52.42bkgoodmlankhorst: probably not far off from the truth, but cloning is one technology a public beta just isn't suitable for
06:53.06mlankhorst:>
06:53.59mlankhorstanyone else here enabled that gmail labs feature to get the 'beta' logo back in gmail?
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06:56.39bkgoodhaha saw it but didn't both to click it, I hardly ever do more than imap any more anyway
06:57.57mlankhorstI use it, gmails search works a lot better than thunderbirds
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06:58.43comodois the mailing list this f***ed up every year? :P
06:58.58bkgoodthat's very true, frankly I don't know why I'm using imap lol
06:59.07bkgoodcomodo: from what I've heard/read, yes
06:59.26bkgoodoh what do you mean by f***ed up?
06:59.29LawnGnomecomodo: Yeah. Might actually be slightly less so this year, although I may just be going soft in my old age.
06:59.34mlankhorstyeah, students list is a firehose of noob :)
06:59.52mlankhorstid be a  terrible moderator
07:00.47bkgood[01:59] <mlankhorst> yeah, students list is a firehose of noob :) <-- that's topic worthy, lol
07:00.58comodo99% of questions are either private questions over a public list, already answered on "required reading"-pages/previous mails or both
07:01.19LawnGnome-discuss tends to be worse on a year-round basis, though. -students is only a clusterf... er, bomb of fail for a short period before it settles down.
07:01.47mlankhorstnot really,  then you have the first evaluations
07:01.49mlankhorstetc
07:02.02comodoI think the weirdest mail to send to a list with 1000+ members was the one that said "This may not have anything to do with gsoc, but SC2 seems really cool..."
07:02.21mlankhorstO_o
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07:02.35mlankhorstthis is why i disabled delivery on gsoc-students
07:03.47kblinwow
07:04.16kblinis on digest, but I usually ignore those during the hot phase
07:04.38comodokblin, mlankhorst: wise choices
07:04.52bkgoodlol yeah the starcraft 2 thread was pretty lol-worthy
07:05.38mlankhorstall important messages to go -announce usually
07:06.13theboltMorning all
07:06.21thebolti use the web if to follow gsoc MLs..
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07:11.19kblinbut I think the truth is that most mailing lists with 1000+ participants suck
07:11.57LawnGnomeHell, I'm on a few with far less than 1000 participants that suck too. I think it's just that suck and active participants are broadly correlated.
07:12.23kblinI mean if just 0.1% of the members take a bad judgement on what should be posted, you'll have a new thread
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07:26.09dholbachgood morning
07:28.41theboltkblin: and i wouldn't put the estimate for portion of people with bad judgement in general group that low ;)
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08:04.42kaithebolt: yeah
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08:39.03LukasTHello, I'm former GSoC student and I'm at the process of writing CV. I would like to reffer my GSoC there but I can't find in FAQ how I should do that. I remember that we had some document somewhere, do you remember it somebody?
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08:53.17LukasTnevermind I found some other CVs to inspire how to refer it, cheers ;)
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16:52.53kimeltomorning!
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16:56.02anddamhello
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16:59.36carolsserves tea and cookies
16:59.39carolshello everyone
16:59.48carols:-)
16:59.57carolsplops down on the open source couch
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17:00.28Catfish_Mang'day carols :)
17:00.33carolsg'day Catfish_Man  :-)
17:00.55carolsnice rainy day here in SF
17:00.58carolsI'm loving it
17:01.41Catfish_Manhehe, the one day I forget my backpack at the office and have to carry my laptop exposed...
17:01.51Catfish_Manoh well, I have a huge coat :)
17:02.19carolsCatfish_Man: besides, hopefully they're a little more resilient than getting damaged in some drizzle? ;-
17:02.21carols;-)
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17:09.04jenredcarols we are seeing you next week in pdx?
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17:09.47carolsjenred: you sure are. im even speaking. :-) http://opensourcebridge.org/sessions/339
17:10.00carolsand everyone should come to the GSoC BoF :-)
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17:15.31rwatsoncarols: spiffy. pity it's half a world away :-)
17:15.49carolsrwatson: there will be other conferences :-)
17:17.24jenredcarols I'm looking forward to your talk!
17:22.20carolsjenred: thanks! im looking forward to meeting you too :-)
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17:36.47anddamcarols: oh you're there
17:36.51anddamcarols: may I query you?
17:37.02carolsanddam: sure
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18:55.10carolsserves some coffee and tea
18:55.14carolsquiet in here today
18:55.22carolsi bet everyone's happily coding away :-)
18:55.52theboltToo tired to do anything after a hard day over the soldering iron :P
18:56.16carolsthebolt: doesn't sound all that bad ;-)
18:57.24theboltcarols: well, it would have been better if we had some ventilation to take the fumes away, some proper place to sit/stand etc.. but oh well, cnanot get everything ;)
18:57.29tierrais in the process of packing up his house to move on saturday :/
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18:57.54carolsthebolt: um, yes. those soldering iron fumes are noxious
18:58.03carolstierra: good luck with the move :-)
18:58.11carolspizza and beer always helps me with moving
18:58.11tierrathanks
18:58.17tierragot both :)
18:58.24carolsyou're all set then :-)
18:58.27thebolttierra: big house? and moving far?
18:58.47tierramyself and a roommate, and only moving a few miles away
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18:59.00theboltok :)
18:59.08theboltgood luck
18:59.08tierrakind of a big house though... 4 cars between both of us, and 2,000 sqft
18:59.12tierraheh
18:59.15thebolthehe
18:59.15carolswow
18:59.17carolsthats a lot
18:59.32thebolt:)
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19:00.12thebolti have to start thinking about how to compress my 30m^2 apartment into a suitcase and a backpack in a couple of months (ok, and some boxes at my parents place :P)
19:01.24tierramy roommate is going to NZ for a couple months in about 6 months, then to AR for six, and my 3rd roommate moved out a month ago with his gf... so trying to downsize to something more reasonable
19:01.39tierra(I'm in Utah atm)
19:01.47thebolt:)
19:02.30carolshave to say, im kind of glad i dont have that much stuff to deal with myself :-)
19:02.37theboltyea
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19:02.42mlankhorsthoi
19:02.48carolshey mlankhorst
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19:02.56mlankhorsteve carols :)
19:03.01tierraon a somewhat related note... it'd be nice if we could just get our country moved over to the metric system
19:03.02theboltwhen i moved in here in august i had a suitcase (same suitcase;) and 8 boxes at my parents place.. plan is to have fewer boxes when I move out
19:03.27thebolttierra: nothing stops you from fixing it.. run for president and make sure it is done :P
19:03.38mlankhorsttierra: i guess youre in the us, all you have to do is use it, and try to make others use it ;p
19:03.52tierraeasier said than done :/
19:04.01mlankhorststarting with yourself would help
19:04.19gevaertshas used metric in the US!
19:04.30mlankhorstalthough personally I believe celcius should be banned, and only kelvin should be used
19:04.39tierraoh yeah, I use it all the time on my foreign cars, heh
19:04.45theboltmlankhorst: hehe, true
19:05.09theboltmlankhorst: although for everyday usage i think celcius is kind-of ok..
19:05.44gevaertsnever uses celcius!
19:05.50gevaertsCelsius is better defined
19:05.59mlankhorstkelvin is better defined :)
19:06.16MostAwesomeDudeWhoo, triple point.
19:06.18theboltgevaerts: question though is, which definition do you use? ;)
19:06.20gevaertsWell yes, but celsius is still better than celcius!
19:06.37gevaertsthebolt: I leave that to my thermometer manufacturer :)
19:06.43theboltgevaerts: bah :P
19:06.50theboltmlankhorst: Celsius is as well defined
19:07.01theboltmlankhorst: all temperature scales I've heard of are well defined :P
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19:07.47mlankhorstnot really, feeling temperature isn't
19:08.06gevaertsIt might not be *precisely* defined
19:08.29mlankhorstjust ask 2 persons what it is, and they give different answers
19:08.48theboltCelsius is (today) defined by absolute zero and triple point of (specially prepared) water
19:09.29gevaertsmlankhorst: "Don't ask two people" might be part of the definition
19:09.41mlankhorstlol
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19:10.01mlankhorsthell even the same person
19:10.17mlankhorstlike when I was in the usa, my definition of warm was different then it was in holland
19:11.15thebolthehe, true, recognize that
19:11.21thebolt(but between sweden and taiwan)
19:11.30mlankhorstok thats slightly more extreme even
19:11.42gevaertsYou found out that "freezing" and "hot" are synonyms?
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19:12.01theboltmlankhorst: well, thing is that "cold" in taiwan made me freeze more than i ever do here in sweden
19:12.28theboltmlankhorst: 285K and 95% RH for two weeks.. both outdoors and indoors (dorms without any heating or insulation at all)
19:14.17mlankhorstouch
19:14.45theboltwent to starbucks to defrost (and use wifi)
19:15.34JSund285 K indoors is quite a bit lower than what you get indoors any time of the year in Sweden though
19:16.04theboltexactly
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19:16.25theboltit might be colder here in the winter.. but you have thick clothes and it is warm indoors :)
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