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05:54.10theboltMorning
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06:00.31kblinmorning thebolt
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06:04.45thebolthi kblin , doing any better today than yesterday?
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06:08.18kblinslowly but steadily improving
06:08.49kblinand not being woken up at 5am is worth something as well
06:09.42theboltas long as it is improving i guess it is good
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06:14.20kblinyeah
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07:16.44jaini m new to this gsoc thing...
07:17.20jainhow do i start so that i can be ensred that i will be selected for gsoc 2011
07:17.48ssbrjain: start submitting patches?
07:18.01jainwhere?
07:18.39timoteijain: you can't just 'start'. esentially, you should know beforehand what companies will be selected for participating in gsoc 2011
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07:19.35timoteijain: but that's not possible. so you'd better choose some projects (from this year selected ones) and see how's best for you. investigate them: see what they do, what they need, what they use, their codebase
07:19.57timoteiand when gsoc 2011 starts, maybe at least one of your 'investigated' companies are selected
07:20.46jainLike facebook or wordpress codebases?
07:21.01timoteijain: if you are  interested in webdevelopment, study their environment
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07:21.54timoteijain: maybe get more familiar with web technologies (php, mysql, and stuff like that)
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07:23.42jainbut what wud happen if they dont sign up for next year
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07:23.57timoteijain: in which way?
07:24.51kblintimotei: I disagree with your use of "company". I'd prefer "project"
07:25.07timoteijain: that's why is not ... Good to 'learn' before hand and try to guess if a project will be accepted in next year
07:25.12kblinmost open source projects aren't companies
07:25.17jainlike facebook wasn.t on 2009 but it's dere on 2010 in participating org list 2010
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07:25.41timoteikblin: true. thanks for pointing it out
07:25.43jaintimotei: i agree
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07:26.17timoteijain: you should learn things you like, and when accepted projects listed, start and research for what you seems capable of working on
07:27.23kblinknowing technology will help in any case
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07:27.32jaini haven't done any projects till now... What if cudn't complete the project or i dont know how to do it
07:28.13timoteijain: if you put it that way everyone could possibly fail on completing it
07:28.36timoteijain: you need to be sure on your knowledge, that whatever happens, you'll eventually find your way out
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07:28.58jaintimotei: but will there be any help?
07:29.37timoteijain: of course. that's why 1) your mentor exists, to guide you 2) irc channel for different technologies 3) forums 4) google :)
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07:31.02jaintimotei: mentors will be there for help!!! i thought they r just those who give away projects... that's just gr8
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07:32.15timoteijain: umm, no, they are not just giving away projects. you usually get assined a mentor that has knowledge (and proficiency) in the area of your project proposal.
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09:42.15drt24kblin: it looks like some emails about GSoC sent in April 2009 to the WF lists only just got moderated through...
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09:51.25theboltquick moderation ;)
09:51.26kblinyeah
09:52.10kblindrt24: but following "sign up to the mailing list and say hi" is about as easy an entrance test as it gets
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10:07.02drt24:-)
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11:31.33bawrNo false negatives, too. :)
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12:59.40sulabh_many short and concise guide to data structures and algos ? I have an interview tomorrow and need to revise fast
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15:55.08MatthewWilkes!timeline
15:55.09socinfo"timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG
15:55.16MatthewWilkesafternoon all
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16:19.58theboltMatthewWilkes: afternoon sir
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16:25.51MatthewWilkeshi thebolt, how's it going?
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21:37.09redbrainhey guys just wondering what the consensious is on when we submit our final stuff what you guys are doing
21:37.19redbrainare you going to submit the final patches
21:37.54redbrainsee mine is a new front-end to gcc and its a fairly huge patch as it is
21:38.59Ivanovicredbrain: this always depends on the project you are working with
21:39.00valeufredbrain: I was thinking to do something like: hg export `hg log -M --template "{rev} " -k valeuf:`
21:39.11Ivanoviceg at wesnoth the students directly work in the source tree
21:39.29Ivanovic(or do you mean "submission of code samples to google"?)
21:39.45Ivanovicthe code submission stuff is done "some time later", not right now
21:40.14Ivanoviccode submission starts at august 30th, so still lots of time
21:40.35Ivanovicthis can be in *any* format, basically it is just a legal question for google (most likely they won't even ever look at it)
21:41.08Ivanovicso: just make sure that your mentor is satisfied with your work, that it is available, usable and all this
21:41.30Ivanovicsubmission to google can be a tarball, patch (gathering the diffs of all of your commits) or anything like this
21:42.20dnk-88if I was originally for a project using google code?
21:43.38Ivanovicdnk-88: at the end google does require *you* to submit your work done due to legal reasons (as in "they paid for something so that got to be able to show what they got, if asked for by the tax authorities")
21:44.30Ivanovicdnk-88: simply saying "its in google code anyway" won't work for this, you have to somehow submit the stuff for their archive where it will most likely never will be looked again (no matter how your mentor project will continue using it, this is a *completely* seperate matter)
21:44.57dnk-88ok, thanks
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23:52.37aamir_i want to take part in gsoc 2011
23:52.52aamir_can anybody guide what i should do now...
23:53.08aamir_what should i start learning kind of thing

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