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| 01:45.58 | sploving | hi all. is anyone familiar with ima?(integrity measurement)? |
| 01:46.21 | sploving | how to enable ima? i used "ima_appraise=fix", but it failed. |
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| 02:42.22 | robbyoconnor | sploving: we're not here for tech support |
| 02:42.26 | robbyoconnor | try the REAL google |
| 02:42.30 | robbyoconnor | http://www.google.com |
| 02:43.43 | sploving | robbyoconnor, I tried. I think the people's mind is better than machine. |
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| 02:44.03 | robbyoconnor | sploving: go use google |
| 02:44.12 | robbyoconnor | half the people are idling |
| 02:44.35 | robbyoconnor | or if you trust its reliability: wikipedia |
| 02:46.41 | robbyoconnor | sploving: you touched on my pet peeve: people too lazy to use google decide "hmm let's waste people's time on IRC" |
| 02:47.55 | robbyoconnor | (and this is about as nice as I'm going to be, so back to lurking I go) |
| 02:48.20 | sploving | I used google a lot, and read the "readme" file, but could not understand it |
| 02:48.47 | sploving | when i have no choice, i have to ask people for help |
| 02:48.48 | danderson | robbyoconnor: I just pass out the shittiest possible advice |
| 02:49.08 | danderson | "Oh yeah, turn on that option that says it crushes all data, that's just a silly warning" |
| 02:49.32 | danderson | if IRC becomes dangerous enough, eventually people will search :) |
| 02:52.03 | robbyoconnor | :) |
| 02:52.45 | robbyoconnor | sploving: use google or find a channel more approriate than this one |
| 02:52.56 | robbyoconnor | this is for GSoC related topics |
| 02:53.01 | sploving | ok |
| 02:53.07 | danderson | I think that was clear from the lack of useful replies |
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| 02:53.36 | robbyoconnor | if you can't understand what you're reading, perhaps you should read it again. Kind of what you do in school, re-read until you get it. |
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| 03:01.15 | robbyoconnor | danderson: did anybody ever tell you that you're slightly evil? :) |
| 03:01.20 | robbyoconnor | I love that! |
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| 05:42.42 | thebolt | Morning |
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| 07:21.29 | dreimark | is it still impossible to rent a toyota prius ? |
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| 08:43.22 | kai | dreimark: I'd go for a nissan hybrid |
| 08:43.38 | kai | they're cheaper at hertz, and have more leg room |
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| 08:53.00 | dreimark | kai: thx |
| 08:54.28 | kai | dreimark: depending on your needs, a Smart might be the greener car, though |
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| 08:58.56 | dreimark | we ordered the last times always a prius. i tried several hertz station and they don't offer one |
| 09:00.38 | kai | dreimark: getting a hybrid allows you to go on the carpool lanes in california even if you're in the car alone |
| 09:01.00 | kai | but other than that some of the non-hybrids of the green collection have a better mileage |
| 09:02.50 | kai | arguably in the US green collection, it's probably only the smart |
| 09:05.35 | dreimark | ok |
| 09:06.08 | kai | which is a bit on the smallish side if you want to share a ride with others |
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| 09:08.58 | kai | but I can recommend the nissan altima |
| 09:09.28 | kai | I had that at the last mentor summit. less geeky than the prius, but a nice car overall |
| 09:13.49 | baer | kai: the hybrid carpool stuff is not a 100% true |
| 09:14.11 | baer | you need a special sticker on your car and the new ones don't get it anymore afair |
| 09:14.51 | alexandru | nobody renting out Teslas in California yet? :) |
| 09:15.39 | kai | baer: oh? dunno, just repeating what they told me at the rental station the last time |
| 09:26.36 | kai | dreimark: bear seems to be correct, looking at http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/decal.htm |
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| 09:41.39 | thebolt | hi kai |
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| 09:42.20 | thebolt | and others :) |
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| 09:50.12 | kai | yay |
| 09:50.41 | kai | just found "managing humans" by michael lopp in a give-away book pile |
| 09:51.10 | kai | it had only weird books on ruby on rails and j2ee/javabeans otherwise... |
| 09:51.12 | ojwb | i like humans, but I couldn't manage a whole one |
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| 11:07.30 | wer_ | Do we need to have a readme file necessarily in our tar.* submitted to googlecode ? |
| 11:07.57 | kai | !submission |
| 11:07.57 | socinfo | Error: "submission" is not a valid command. |
| 11:07.58 | kai | er |
| 11:08.09 | kai | durn |
| 11:08.16 | wer_ | I have 2 diff files, the second one has a lot of new code but a also few modifications from the 1st diff. Is it ok to submit these two diffs ? |
| 11:08.40 | kai | yeah |
| 11:08.46 | kai | !logs |
| 11:08.47 | socinfo | "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
| 11:09.27 | kai | !submissions |
| 11:09.28 | socinfo | "submissions" is See http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list/web/code-submission-guidelines-2010 for information on how to submit your code. |
| 11:09.30 | kai | there we go |
| 11:10.55 | wer_ | kai: ah ok..no read me file :) |
| 11:11.42 | drt24 | I used a README file because I had two diffs and I wanted to explain why there were two and what was in each |
| 11:12.25 | drt24 | but I think you just do what you think is best and that is fine :-) |
| 11:13.55 | wer_ | ok |
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| 11:22.13 | thebolt | i would be surprised if anyone actually reads the diffs |
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| 11:23.02 | gevaerts | There's only about 900 sets of them! |
| 11:28.12 | kai | no-one likes reading diff files anyway |
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| 11:54.00 | thebolt | hi MatthewWilkes |
| 11:57.35 | MatthewWilkes | hi thebolt |
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| 12:25.27 | aidecoe | should we strip characters to ASCII-only when naming tarball with code samples? |
| 12:26.07 | aidecoe | I've got âÅ»â and âÅâ in my surname |
| 12:29.10 | drt24 | aidecoe: I would go for using exactly the same as is registered for you on your proposal |
| 12:29.46 | drt24 | as I am guessing there is a script which uses that data |
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| 12:33.42 | aidecoe | drt24: you may be right. So ASCII only. On the list our names are in ASCII. |
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| 12:42.34 | thebolt | i tend to stick to 7-bit ascii stuff when mailing or uploading internationally unless i know the receiver can handle whatever else I send (UTF8 or Big5 at times for example) |
| 12:43.33 | gevaerts | recommends EBCDIC |
| 12:44.40 | thebolt | which version of it? ;) |
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| 12:51.51 | kai | meh |
| 12:52.02 | gevaerts | thebolt: your choice. Something has to remain confusing! |
| 12:52.05 | kai | is a bit disappointed in cluster filesystems |
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| 12:55.15 | kai | it seems like they either don't work (yet), don't support posix locks (yet) or don't run on commodity hardware after all |
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| 16:04.48 | netepal | Hi there |
| 16:05.19 | netepal | I need some information |
| 16:05.25 | netepal | regarding Gsoc |
| 16:09.42 | MatthewWilkes | netepal: Have you googled? |
| 16:10.00 | MatthewWilkes | If so, ask away |
| 16:10.41 | netepal | I want to participate in Gsoc |
| 16:10.44 | netepal | 2011 |
| 16:11.04 | MatthewWilkes | netepal: No such programme has been announced (yet) |
| 16:11.09 | netepal | is facebook still in the list of mentoring organizations? |
| 16:12.02 | drt24 | netepal: the list of organisations won't be announced for months yet |
| 16:12.02 | MatthewWilkes | There is no such list, check again in Aprilish |
| 16:12.18 | netepal | Ok! |
| 16:12.27 | netepal | have you participated already? |
| 16:12.56 | MatthewWilkes | I have been an organisation admin for 3 years |
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| 17:16.09 | neXyon | with my citi account I can transfer to an US bank without any fees, right? |
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| 17:17.16 | borja | hey carols |
| 17:17.21 | carols | hey borja |
| 17:17.27 | borja | carols: I'm around now :-) |
| 17:17.32 | carols | borja: pm? |
| 17:17.35 | borja | sure |
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| 17:33.48 | MatthewWilkes | carols: There are two people on the waiting list already but the attendee list on that wiki page is blank - can you confirm if you intend us to still have an attendee list on the wiki page? |
| 17:34.07 | MatthewWilkes | carols: The Google Docs form has info on roomsharing still, too, so it's confusing where things should be listed |
| 17:34.32 | carols | MatthewWilkes: confirmed. these are people above and beyond the two delegates for those orgs |
| 17:34.45 | carols | MatthewWilkes: yes, some people are going to choose to roomshare, its just that they dont have to |
| 17:36.23 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Ok, brilliant. Is the attendee list in the wiki page a holdover from last year or do we put ourselves there too, if we wish? |
| 17:36.28 | Nightrose | ponders when to arrive - friday is pre-summit stuff right? |
| 17:36.46 | carols | MatthewWilkes: it is not a holdover, and please do list yourself |
| 17:36.54 | carols | Nightrose: yes, much better to arrive on friday. |
| 17:36.59 | Nightrose | ok |
| 17:37.34 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Great :) |
| 17:37.42 | carols | :-) |
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| 17:37.48 | carols | serves tea and coffee |
| 17:40.54 | MatthewWilkes | aaargh, *hits mediawiki* |
| 17:41.59 | Jeff_S | MatthewWilkes: harder! |
| 17:45.53 | MatthewWilkes | Jeff_S: Not in public! ;) |
| 17:46.03 | Jeff_S | ;) |
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| 17:51.24 | MatthewWilkes | Incidentally, if anyone's interested: We're pleased to present Plone 4 - containing Summer of Code projects from the last few years http://plone.org/products/plone/features/ |
| 17:55.14 | Jeff_S | MatthewWilkes: LOL (glad to see it; funny way to introduce it) |
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| 18:38.06 | Ivanovic | carols: uhm, i don't understand the instructions regarding flight booking |
| 18:38.18 | carols | Ivanovic: ok, what can i clarify? |
| 18:38.23 | Ivanovic | carols: to write the invoice you need the recipe for the flight |
| 18:38.30 | carols | indeed. |
| 18:38.48 | Ivanovic | but you should wait with booking the flight till you are affirmative that the invoice is through |
| 18:38.59 | Ivanovic | (the PO number stuff) |
| 18:38.59 | carols | Ivanovic: you should wait until you have a PO. |
| 18:39.04 | carols | they're two separate things. |
| 18:39.43 | Ivanovic | ain't it working like all years before, too |
| 18:39.51 | carols | Ivanovic: yes |
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| 18:39.54 | Ivanovic | you just pay it yourself and get the money refunded (via the org) |
| 18:40.01 | carols | Ivanovic: yes |
| 18:40.03 | Ivanovic | so if the org has a po number makes no difference |
| 18:40.30 | Ivanovic | (the problem with waiting is that the tickets just get more expensive) |
| 18:44.34 | Jeff_S | uh oh, too many questions!!! |
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| 18:51.30 | Nightrose | Ivanovic: same problem here |
| 18:51.44 | Nightrose | i'd like to book asap too or we'll get over the limit |
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| 19:48.55 | Nightrose | carols: is there anything speaking against booking before we get the PO? cause we're very close to the 2000$ limit already right now |
| 19:49.17 | Nightrose | flights that is |
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| 20:31.31 | thebolt | evening all |
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| 20:46.39 | carols | Nightrose: why not just fill in the payment request? youll have a PO probably by tomorrow. surely thats quickly enough, i hope :-) |
| 20:47.00 | Nightrose | carols: need to wait for our org's business manager to do it tomorrow morning |
| 20:47.19 | Nightrose | but yea depending on how quickly she gets the stuff done it should be ok |
| 20:47.36 | Nightrose | was just wondering if i could ask her to book the flights as well tomorrow morning |
| 20:47.38 | carols | Nightrose: ok |
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| 21:46.05 | ash_ | carols: did you receive my email i sent yesterday? about the code review confirmation? |
| 21:46.24 | carols | ash_: yes, im working on it |
| 21:46.35 | ash_ | oh, okay, thanks, just curious |
| 21:46.43 | carols | sorry for the delay |
| 21:46.46 | carols | ive got a lot going on |
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| 21:49.03 | ash_ | i just wasn't sure if you got the email, thats all |
| 21:50.15 | carols | ash_: yeah, unfortunately i've been kind of buried. |
| 21:51.38 | xendo | any new info about shipments? |
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| 21:58.04 | drt24 | xendo: I think that won't be until after the 10th September when code submission ends |
| 21:58.18 | drt24 | as they won't know who needs to have it sent until then |
| 21:58.53 | drt24 | !patience |
| 21:58.54 | socinfo | "patience" is very important in GSoC. Check !next and the !timeline and go code something useful. |
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| 21:59.08 | xendo | !next |
| 21:59.08 | socinfo | "next" is Google Summer of Code 2010 is over. Watch the Google Open Source Blog for results, your inbox for t-shirts and spend your time writing some useful or fun code. |
| 22:00.51 | xendo | drt24 but carols wrote when asking to update tshirt size: Please make sure your mailing address is one where you will be able to accept packages between 20 August and 3 September. |
| 22:01.19 | carols | xendo: they're shipping between now and the next two weeks. you'll receive a notification when yours ships. |
| 22:01.21 | carols | !pateince |
| 22:01.21 | socinfo | Error: "pateince" is not a valid command. |
| 22:01.24 | carols | !patience |
| 22:01.25 | socinfo | "patience" is very important in GSoC. Check !next and the !timeline and go code something useful. |
| 22:02.50 | xendo | ok, ok I was just curious if I'll be able to show off my gsoc t-shir from the very begining of this semester |
| 22:03.21 | drt24 | :-) |
| 22:04.52 | xendo | and I also heard that it's better for job interview than suit. |
| 22:07.27 | drt24 | xendo: that would depend on the company: if they expect you to turn up in a suit then even an awesome t-shirt might be a bad move. |
| 22:07.55 | xendo | I was thinking IBM job to be honest |
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| 22:37.03 | robbyoconnor | carols!!! |
| 22:37.07 | robbyoconnor | did you get my card? |
| 22:37.23 | carols | robbyoconnor: card? |
| 22:37.29 | robbyoconnor | er email |
| 22:37.36 | robbyoconnor | about the card |
| 22:37.45 | robbyoconnor | $402 daily limit is a bit...insane |
| 22:38.13 | drt24 | robbyoconnor: just phone Citi with the number on your card and get it increased to $2500 |
| 22:38.14 | robbyoconnor | can raise it for 72 hrs to $2500 but have to do that every 3 days |
| 22:38.23 | robbyoconnor | drt24: only lasts 72 hrs |
| 22:38.28 | robbyoconnor | that's even dumber. |
| 22:38.32 | drt24 | robbyoconnor: I thought it was permenant? |
| 22:38.37 | robbyoconnor | drt24: nope |
| 22:38.39 | robbyoconnor | 72hrs |
| 22:38.46 | drt24 | bah |
| 22:38.52 | carols | robbyoconnor: yes, i got the email. |
| 22:39.03 | robbyoconnor | can you help or are your hands tied? |
| 22:39.22 | carols | robbyoconnor: i need to look into it. please give me more than 40 minutes to respond :-) |
| 22:39.45 | robbyoconnor | I'll give you 40.2 minutes |
| 22:39.47 | robbyoconnor | is that good? |
| 22:39.49 | robbyoconnor | runs |
| 22:41.04 | carols | robbyoconnor: sure, that's enough time. the answer is no in that case. |
| 22:41.11 | robbyoconnor | ok ok |
| 22:41.18 | robbyoconnor | take as much time as you need! |
| 22:41.20 | robbyoconnor | sorry |
| 22:41.27 | robbyoconnor | trying to lift my own mood right now |
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| 22:44.57 | MatthewWilkes | hehehe, awesome. Dries is complaining about a benchmark that says Plone 4 is >3x faster than Drupal 7 OOTB because drupal's caching is disabled and we don't listen when he tells us. Hilarious as the reason we dismiss that is because our caching is disabled too and he ignores us. :D |
| 22:46.31 | robbyoconnor | carols: P.S. thanks for being such an awesome program manager |
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| 22:59.23 | carols | robbyoconnor: you're welcome. its a great job |
| 23:03.47 | robbyoconnor | did you send info on how to submit code to the student list? |
| 23:04.17 | carols | robbyoconnor: i sent an email and a link to the page on the google group that outlines how to do it |
| 23:06.10 | carols | multiple emails, actually, come to think of it |
| 23:09.48 | robbyoconnor | on the mentors list |
| 23:11.37 | carols | robbyoconnor: yes. |
| 23:11.47 | robbyoconnor | we cant access that! |
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| 23:11.57 | drt24 | robbyoconnor: it was sent to the student list |
| 23:11.57 | carols | robbyoconnor: access the students list? |
| 23:12.00 | drt24 | multiple times |
| 23:12.05 | robbyoconnor | er ok |
| 23:12.13 | carols | what drt24 said |
| 23:12.16 | carols | it went everywhere |
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| 23:32.15 | drt24 | carols: did you bcc to google-summer-of-code-students-list when you sent to melange-soc-dev? |
| 23:32.47 | carols | drt24: yes |
| 23:33.32 | drt24 | goodnight :-) |
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