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| 05:22.40 | thebolt | Morning |
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| 06:05.39 | kblin | morning folks |
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| 06:25.43 | kblin | urgh |
| 06:26.04 | kblin | the new corporate design of the university's websites looks awful |
| 06:26.54 | thiago_home | isn't that redundant? I mean, "corporate design" and "awful" ? |
| 06:27.14 | kblin | point |
| 06:28.21 | kblin | dammit, I really hope my yet-to-be received m.sc. diploma won't look like the new design |
| 06:28.40 | thiago_home | diplomas are usually really traditional |
| 06:28.51 | kblin | the new design looks like a win7 background |
| 06:29.55 | kblin | and given that I got my degree prior to the redesign, I want the old look :) |
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| 07:08.13 | erlehmann | !timeline |
| 07:08.13 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
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| 11:28.37 | Laserbeak43 | O.O |
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| 11:39.57 | Laserbeak43 | hello |
| 11:40.22 | Laserbeak43 | i've just about skimmed the summer of code site, but i don't see an application |
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| 11:40.55 | ojwb | Laserbeak43: applications aren't currently open |
| 11:41.35 | Ivanovic | Laserbeak43: summer of code for this year is over |
| 11:41.58 | Laserbeak43 | ojwb: oh ok. yeah, it is september :). when does the application process begin? |
| 11:42.17 | ojwb | !timeline |
| 11:42.17 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 11:42.33 | Laserbeak43 | thx |
| 11:42.41 | ojwb | assuming gsoc happens next year, the timeline is likely to be fairly similar |
| 11:43.37 | Laserbeak43 | any reasons why it wouldn |
| 11:43.41 | Laserbeak43 | wouldn't? |
| 11:44.42 | gevaerts | Well, Google pays for this as some sort of goodwill investment (or whatever you want it to be). I'd assume they re-evaluate that sort of thing regularly |
| 11:44.47 | ojwb | well, it's up to google |
| 11:44.58 | ojwb | and their policy is not to pre-announce such things |
| 11:45.02 | Laserbeak43 | i see your point |
| 11:45.15 | Laserbeak43 | yeah i did read that there's money involved |
| 11:45.23 | ojwb | it seems to be successful, and slightly more so each year |
| 11:45.28 | Laserbeak43 | i thought it was just some free community gathering at first |
| 11:45.36 | Laserbeak43 | well that's good |
| 11:46.55 | gevaerts | We're talking about I'd guess a $800000 investment (+ or - a few hundred thousand) for them. I'd hope they think before spending that sort of money :) |
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| 11:51.49 | Laserbeak43 | gevaerts: that's a lot of money |
| 11:52.00 | gevaerts | Yes, exactly :) |
| 11:52.06 | ojwb | gevaerts: that must be way off - there are 1000 students at $5000 each for a start |
| 11:52.12 | gevaerts | oh, wait |
| 11:52.16 | Laserbeak43 | I'm sure they're getting something out of it. i love the idea |
| 11:52.17 | gevaerts | Yes, off by a factor of 10 |
| 11:52.24 | Laserbeak43 | lol |
| 11:52.28 | gevaerts | knew the result was low... |
| 11:52.39 | gevaerts | OK, around $5000000 then |
| 11:52.45 | gevaerts | Plus or minus a bit |
| 11:53.08 | gevaerts | writes 100 times "1000 times 5000 is not 500000" |
| 11:53.13 | Laserbeak43 | how many students have stayed in the programs? |
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| 11:56.05 | thebolt | Hi all |
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| 12:10.04 | kai | hey thebolt |
| 12:12.15 | kai | thebolt: then do you mv .se .tw ? |
| 12:13.09 | sfb | kai: Good morning |
| 12:13.27 | gevaerts | Always use mv -i in those cases |
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| 12:15.31 | kai | sfb: hey there |
| 12:17.01 | sfb | How's it going? |
| 12:17.50 | thebolt | kai: 04 |
| 12:18.01 | thebolt | (or well, arrive 05) |
| 12:18.01 | kai | sfb: for some reason work is keeping me busy, even though my supervisor is on vacation |
| 12:18.06 | sfb | haha |
| 12:18.11 | sfb | That's usually the best time to get work done. |
| 12:18.35 | sfb | I find that when my manager is out I'm hassled less for little things. Since he isn't here to relay them from random people directly to me. (; |
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| 12:24.12 | thebolt | kai: so pretty soon |
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| 12:32.54 | sfb | kai: hi |
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| 12:39.22 | kai | sfb: hi again :) |
| 12:41.55 | kai | dnk-88: hey there |
| 12:42.32 | dnk-88 | kai: hello |
| 12:42.40 | kai | dnk-88: pm? |
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| 12:43.00 | dnk-88 | ok |
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| 13:17.19 | kai | hey folks, if your project is using a forum, how do you deal with it being swamped by spam? |
| 13:18.05 | gevaerts | Have a captcha that keeps out real people |
| 13:18.13 | gevaerts | (Works for us!) |
| 13:18.47 | kai | gevaerts: you mean "fail the captcha, get to post"? |
| 13:19.19 | gevaerts | Actually, that might work :) |
| 13:19.27 | gevaerts | doesn't know really |
| 13:19.58 | gevaerts | We don't get much spam, and we have a captcha, and we get complaints about that captcha thing often being unreadable, but maybe we're just lucky |
| 13:20.30 | gevaerts | looks at scorche to see if he has more insights |
| 13:21.01 | invernizzi | write a custom captcha? |
| 13:21.44 | Ivanovic | kai: simple, you can drop spam by 90% if you block all chinese and russian IPs |
| 13:23.12 | gevaerts | You also lose some real people though |
| 13:23.51 | Ivanovic | gevaerts: jepp |
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| 13:25.05 | kai | Ivanovic: does wesnoth do that? |
| 13:25.13 | Ivanovic | kai: no, of course not |
| 13:25.35 | drt24 | recapatcha is supposed to be fairly good |
| 13:25.40 | Ivanovic | i don't really know the strange measurements that are active these days to protect our phpbb installation |
| 13:25.49 | Ivanovic | though at least one spambot get through per day |
| 13:26.13 | kai | drt24: for all I know recaptcha has been broken, we get spam on our wiki once in a while |
| 13:26.38 | MatthewWilkes | probably just farmed out to people on porn sites or the like |
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| 13:26.42 | drt24 | kai: it is not possible to stop all spam because some of it is being done by humans... |
| 13:26.54 | ojwb | well, you *can* stop all spam |
| 13:27.03 | Ivanovic | in fact a lot of the more compilcated stuff is done by humans these days |
| 13:27.08 | ojwb | but you have to stop all posting too |
| 13:27.23 | ojwb | or travel back in time 20 years |
| 13:27.36 | drt24 | something like capatcha + magic word on our front page which you need to go and read |
| 13:27.54 | drt24 | might break the automated break capatchas using robots and porn sites |
| 13:28.52 | gevaerts | We managed to avoid wiki spam entirely |
| 13:28.59 | ojwb | has seen a couple of captchas in the last week which he couldn't reliably read |
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| 13:29.49 | gevaerts | For the wiki our strategy is to let people register and then come and ask us on irc for write access (although occasionally asking another way also happens) |
| 13:30.56 | drt24 | turing test++ :-) |
| 13:31.55 | gevaerts | Yes indeed :) |
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| 17:13.59 | prabal | when should i opt to join this programme? |
| 17:14.58 | dennda | next year |
| 17:15.19 | prabal | next year when please? |
| 17:15.51 | Catfish_Man | prabal: I suggest setting up a saved web search for summer of code. It'll be all over the tech news sites when it happens |
| 17:16.50 | prabal | please do so.we all aspirants would be highly obliged |
| 17:17.21 | Catfish_Man | prabal: no, that was a suggestion for you |
| 17:17.31 | Catfish_Man | the internet has tools for this already |
| 17:18.00 | prabal | yes,thats right....i will surely try to do so,if i can |
| 17:21.03 | prabal | what is exactly done in this program? |
| 17:22.27 | Catfish_Man | google sponsors students to work on open source projects under the mentorship of project members |
| 17:23.29 | prabal | what are the languages involved?any qualification required?? |
| 17:24.20 | Catfish_Man | whatever language is required for the project; admittance is competitive with the other students applying |
| 17:25.29 | gevaerts | Well, not only. If you make a bad impression on the project you're applying to, you won't get in, even if nobody else applied |
| 17:25.31 | prabal | what is the basis of acceptance of application??who stands a better chance?? |
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| 17:26.05 | Catfish_Man | prabal: it's basically up to the mentors of the project. They can impose any requirements they choose, and rank students by any fair criteria they choose |
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| 17:26.32 | Catfish_Man | prabal: one *very common* trait mentors look for is ability to be self-sufficient. i.e. if you're in #gsoc asking questions that are on the FAQ, that looks bad :P |
| 17:27.07 | prabal | oops.... |
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| 17:30.27 | thebolt | Catfish_Man: smoothly put :) |
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| 17:37.20 | sfb | ahaha |
| 17:37.23 | sfb | I love you guys. |
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| 17:41.49 | jenred | Nightrose Yes!! |
| 17:42.12 | Nightrose | jenred: wohoooo |
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| 17:48.41 | thebolt | hi carols |
| 17:48.47 | carols | hi thebolt |
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| 17:49.32 | thebolt | how do you do? |
| 17:50.04 | carols | good, how are you? |
| 17:51.10 | thebolt | Good. Busy with work today, last day in very long that me and the CEO (of the company we just founded together with a third guy) will be in the same country or even timezone.. so lots of long meetings |
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| 17:53.13 | thebolt | then its (again) cross-timezone working ;) |
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| 17:57.08 | sfb | kblin: ping |
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| 18:20.04 | xzilla | is anyone from spi around by chance? |
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| 18:47.58 | scorche | kblin: dont use vb/phpbb... |
| 18:48.23 | scorche | those seem to get a ton of spam, though it could be related to other factors |
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| 18:59.27 | dreimark | is the esta server down? |
| 18:59.31 | dreimark | https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta |
| 19:03.10 | Nightrose | seems so |
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| 20:38.26 | paulproteus | Time to sign up for the mentors summit... |
| 20:53.59 | thebolt | wish i could go this year again.. but i fail to meet the two basic requirements :/ |
| 20:55.41 | pygi | being a mentor? xD |
| 20:56.00 | gevaerts | having time? |
| 20:56.17 | pygi | cookies? |
| 20:56.29 | thebolt | two right of two :) |
| 20:58.28 | thebolt | it is just _after_ my only real vacation this year.. |
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| 21:03.03 | thebolt | otherwise i would do anything to go :P |
| 21:04.01 | gevaerts | will try to finalise his plans tomorrow :) |
| 21:08.18 | thebolt | gevaerts: enjoy.. ;) |
| 21:08.38 | gevaerts | I'll do my best! |
| 21:08.48 | thebolt | thinks he can find something (or hm.. someone:P) to comfort him for not being able to attend the nerdtopia ;) |
| 21:12.57 | thebolt | but now i have to sleep (and comfort myself as that someone is 9000km away for another 30 days... ) gn |
| 21:19.01 | kblin | evening folks |
| 21:21.48 | pygi | heya kblin |
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| 21:49.39 | mushroom | Hi! |
| 21:50.04 | mushroom | !timeline |
| 21:50.04 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 21:50.55 | mushroom | carols: Is it intentional that the timeline doesn't specify an end date for submitting code samples? |
| 21:51.33 | carols | mushroom: the end date is sept 10 and that's included in the code submission guidelines on the groups page |
| 21:54.08 | mushroom | carols: Thanks for the info. I was looking at the official timeline and wondered why the info was not listed there nor pointed to in the FAQ. |
| 21:55.44 | mushroom | I'm happy to see that there is no hard deadline for code submission if I don't care about immediate t-shirt shipment. |
| 21:56.20 | carols | ok |
| 21:57.13 | mushroom | carols: Thanks for the help! |
| 21:57.18 | mushroom | Good night everyone |
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