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| 07:41.11 | dreimark | is there a page/flyer in german about the contest? |
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| 09:40.43 | kai | ah, cool |
| 09:41.34 | thebolt | hi kai |
| 09:42.03 | jelmer | hi kai |
| 09:43.53 | thebolt | what is cool? :) |
| 09:45.22 | Ivanovic | icecream! |
| 09:45.33 | thebolt | true, and weather in other places than here ;) |
| 09:45.40 | gevaerts | Liquid helium! |
| 09:46.44 | kai | hey jelmer |
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| 09:48.04 | kai | thebolt: I realized that instead of having to figure out what my next wireless AP will be once the current one gives up, I can got and assemble my own |
| 09:48.23 | kai | http://ubnt.com/rspro looks pretty sweet |
| 09:49.06 | kai | and I can plug up to three wireless modules into there, so I could even set up a guest network :D |
| 09:51.09 | thebolt | ah :) |
| 09:51.59 | kai | I think I'll get one of these next year. I'm out of hardware budget for this year |
| 09:52.10 | kai | 128 megs of ram should be enough to run cups |
| 09:52.53 | thebolt | :) |
| 09:53.26 | thebolt | my hardware budget is 0 every year :P |
| 09:53.48 | kai | it's not the money, it's the WAF that has run out :) |
| 09:54.16 | gevaerts | Add another W? |
| 09:54.47 | thebolt | ah, i don't have to take that into account yet.. |
| 09:55.10 | kai | the board itself retails for 85 eur, the wireless module not included |
| 09:59.11 | kai | hm, come to think of it, I don't even need cups on the router... |
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| 10:26.15 | thebolt | kai: expecting the current to give up anytime soon? |
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| 12:44.24 | kai | thebolt: no, but it's just a/b/g not a/b/g/n |
| 12:45.42 | Chainsaw | As long as 802.11A works. That tends to be the most stable one out there. |
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| 14:21.40 | thebolt | kai: ah, i see |
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| 15:45.58 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: Morning.. I tried to bulk load an hour and 15 minutes ago and still nothing. :( |
| 15:57.20 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: what url? |
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| 16:03.48 | DrJoel | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/list_org_tasks/google/gci2010/rtems to view the tasks |
| 16:04.32 | amnesia_ | am i too early for gsoc 2011? :) |
| 16:04.34 | DrJoel | I also emailed Melange.. the title on the page is a bit odd. "List Organization Task".. like we only have one. :D |
| 16:05.15 | DrJoel | amnesia_: no.. gsoc 2010 (if it happens) will have announcements in the feb/mar timeframe. The Google Code-In for 13-18 year olds is getting kicked off |
| 16:05.39 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: looking |
| 16:05.53 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: no problem |
| 16:06.02 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: s/gsoc 2010/gsoc 2011/ |
| 16:06.07 | amnesia_ | oh |
| 16:06.07 | SRabbelier | amnesia_: yes, a bit too early :) |
| 16:06.13 | amnesia_ | :) |
| 16:06.23 | amnesia_ | I guess I'm too excited. |
| 16:06.59 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: ouch.. still too early to type 2011 :-D |
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| 16:11.47 | dberkholz | amnesia_: no better time than now to pick a likely community from last year's participants and get involved |
| 16:12.12 | amnesia_ | yes, I an googling and looking through project proposals |
| 16:13.30 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: what url did you use to upload the tasks? |
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| 16:17.46 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: nvm, found it |
| 16:17.57 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: "Invalid Task data": "No valid mentors found" |
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| 16:20.13 | DrJoel | ouch.. so you can't add a task without a mentor? And no message? |
| 16:21.28 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: right, it needs at least one mentor |
| 16:23.15 | DrJoel | can it be changed afterwards? |
| 16:23.46 | DrJoel | the no message part is bad |
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| 16:24.43 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: what do you mean with no message? |
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| 16:47.07 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: ? |
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| 19:10.28 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: sorry went to lunch :) .. I mean the bulk load was rejected and there was no indication to me as to why |
| 19:11.24 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1000 ? |
| 19:11.56 | DrJoel | Yep.. voted for it. :-D Thanks |
| 19:12.05 | DrJoel | thank you for the help |
| 19:13.24 | SRabbelier | yw |
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| 20:08.34 | dhaun | does anyone here have experience with openhatch.org ? |
| 20:08.44 | dhaun | it looks like it could be a good place to post tasks that were meant for GCI |
| 20:08.52 | dhaun | but I have no idea if enough people visit the site to get some of them picked up ... |
| 20:13.43 | DrJoel | dhaun: some of the people at the teaching open source list recommended it a while back. I (RTEMS) haven't had any contacts because of it that I know of but every bit of PR helps |
| 20:15.12 | schumaml | is surprised to see some gimp tasks there |
| 20:17.06 | schumaml | do they offer any kinds of statistics, e.g. number of bugs fixed by someone who found them on openhatch.org? |
| 20:20.04 | Nightrose | you have the guy behind it in this channel ;-) |
| 20:20.10 | Nightrose | and yes the site is very good |
| 20:20.22 | Nightrose | pokes paulproteus |
| 20:20.31 | schumaml | and statistics? |
| 20:20.42 | paulproteus | Nightrose: ekop |
| 20:20.43 | Nightrose | you'd need to ask him - i don't think so though |
| 20:20.47 | Nightrose | paulproteus: :P |
| 20:21.12 | Nightrose | paulproteus: see what dhaun said |
| 20:21.12 | paulproteus | schumaml: We don't have a good process for tracking people through the site. |
| 20:21.31 | Nightrose | idea: email the cgi list and ask the not accepted orgs to post it on OH |
| 20:21.32 | paulproteus | dhaun: re: traffic: We get 100-300 visitors a day, except when there's some radical spike because some news outlet discovers us (-: |
| 20:21.48 | Nightrose | it = their ideas |
| 20:22.28 | andre__ | it's a pretty helpful site to get contributors and I'm thankful that you've put openhatch.org up |
| 20:22.44 | schumaml | btw, one complaint: http://openhatch.org/+projects/?q=gimp -> hm, 17 bugs, let's go there... http://openhatch.org/+projects/GIMP |
| 20:22.53 | schumaml | ...? nothing? |
| 20:23.14 | dhaun | paulproteus: nice meeting you and thanks for the info |
| 20:23.20 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: I hate to pop up again but .... it looks like the apply to be a mentor link generated is broken |
| 20:23.27 | paulproteus | dhaun: :D I'll be chilling here, and in #openhatch |
| 20:23.36 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: specify? |
| 20:23.38 | schumaml | ... ... ... oh, in the lower right, the last part I'll get to |
| 20:23.38 | dhaun | schumaml: tasks vs. imported bugs - that's a bit odd on the site |
| 20:23.56 | paulproteus | schumaml: Yeah -- I guess the 17 bugs link should go to openhatch.org/search/ |
| 20:24.34 | schumaml | http://openhatch.org/+projects/GIMP should show them more prominently, in my opinion |
| 20:25.14 | DrJoel | getting there.. http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/apply_mentor/google/gci2010 all the links in the last column have "None" as the last part of the URL .. |
| 20:25.26 | paulproteus | schumaml: I agree... /me ponders |
| 20:26.29 | dhaun | paulproteus: what schumaml said - same problem with us (Geeklog), especially since you don't support our bugtracker ... |
| 20:26.42 | paulproteus | feels inundated with complaints^Winterest :D |
| 20:26.53 | dhaun | heh |
| 20:27.24 | paulproteus | One sec; I have to handle some other tasks; will be back in 25 min or so |
| 20:27.37 | paulproteus | The best place to leave feedback is #openhatch or the bug tracker (but, in lousy fashion, the bug tracker has separate logins from the main site) |
| 20:27.45 | paulproteus | But I do *seriously* *really* appreciate the interest and feedback! |
| 20:27.50 | dhaun | on the other hand, it's nice to be listed under the headline "projects without bugs" ;-) |
| 20:27.57 | paulproteus | And I want to make it better! (hah, dhaun) (-: |
| 20:28.25 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: did you duplicate it? |
| 20:28.36 | DrJoel | doesn't know how to best use openhatch.org :( |
| 20:29.32 | dhaun | paulproteus: thanks; I'll post some more of our tasks and see how it works out |
| 20:30.45 | paulproteus | DrJoel: Part of that is 'cause I keep changing my mind *eye-roll* |
| 20:30.57 | paulproteus | fixes some deep bugs in the site, where profile import sometimes doesn't work. |
| 20:32.09 | DrJoel | paulproteus: no offense intended.. just want to make the most of what's there and don't think I am doing a good job of it. :) |
| 20:32.33 | paulproteus | DrJoel: I'm serious about me changing my mind -- it makes the site kind of incoherent! (-: |
| 20:34.06 | DrJoel | paulproteus: FWIW thanks to GSOC, teaching open source, and now google code in, we have a list of big, medium and small projects. They don't show up in our Bugzilla instance. They are our best volunteer opportunities. How do present that would be my question |
| 20:35.31 | paulproteus | Interesting that you've rigged things so they don't show up in Bugzilla... that sure throws off my idea of importing them (-: |
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| 20:44.16 | DrJoel | paulproteus: well they aren't rigged. They are just listed in bugzilla. We just don't use bugzilla to track a wish list |
| 20:44.48 | paulproteus | I jest, by calling it "rigged" |
| 20:45.16 | DrJoel | :) |
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| 20:56.30 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: that's because the url is missing a component? |
| 20:57.05 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: nvm |
| 20:57.07 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: that is weird |
| 21:02.03 | kblin | omg |
| 21:02.15 | kblin | more security theatre in the US |
| 21:02.41 | kblin | zurich looks more and more attractive :) |
| 21:04.31 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: That's what I thought it looked like but replacing None with rtems or RTEMS didn't produce a working link. So here we are |
| 21:05.02 | SRabbelier | kblin: the wifi nonsense? |
| 21:05.14 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: am looking into it |
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| 21:07.11 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: yeah, the problem is caused by the href pointing at "None", which is then interpreted as a relative url |
| 21:08.04 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: sorry to be a source of bugs :) |
| 21:08.56 | gevaerts | DrJoel: SRabbelier should just have come to your testing session at the mentor summit :) |
| 21:09.15 | kblin | SRabbelier: no, but you're not allowed to check printer cartridges |
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| 21:09.29 | kblin | not that I'd often need to, but it's just as silly |
| 21:10.27 | DrJoel | gevaerts: LOL ... I just have a knack for clicking in the wrong place |
| 21:10.41 | gevaerts | A useful skill! |
| 21:10.52 | gevaerts | dislikes mice for similar reasons :) |
| 21:11.08 | kblin | you could get a cat then |
| 21:11.30 | gevaerts | Funny you should say that! |
| 21:11.45 | gevaerts | often uses "cat > /dev/null" as some sort of clipboard |
| 21:12.10 | kblin | /dev/null, great for fast backups, a bit sucky for restoring |
| 21:13.33 | schumaml | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.51 | kblin | for certain values of great |
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| 21:13.58 | gevaerts | /dev/zero is faster |
| 21:14.10 | kblin | usually takes quite a while to get back the data you put into /dev/null |
| 21:14.45 | kblin | but you could accidently restore the decss algorithm and break the DMCA |
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| 21:28.40 | SRabbelier | kblin: why not? 0.o |
| 21:28.51 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: ha! you guys should have come to _our_ testing session :P |
| 21:29.32 | gevaerts | SRabbelier: did you have impressive annotated objdump output that shows which bits were tested? :) |
| 21:30.03 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: we asked people to help out with testing manually :P |
| 21:31.36 | gevaerts | Ah yes, but I wasn't there, so I didn't hear that! |
| 21:31.38 | gevaerts | hides |
| 21:32.31 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: we mailed! |
| 21:32.35 | SRabbelier | the entire mentor list :P |
| 21:32.39 | gevaerts | oh, right |
| 21:32.48 | gevaerts | seems to be running out of excuses |
| 21:33.35 | _Samo | hi there. In the Mentor summit there was a guy taking photos and recording videos in the conference rooms, apara from the final photograph on the stair, I wonder where I can take a look at them |
| 21:33.42 | SRabbelier | lauhgs |
| 21:34.02 | SRabbelier | _Samo: that'd be PaweÅ SoÅyga |
| 21:34.38 | _Samo | does he have them up somewhere? |
| 21:38.24 | kblin | SRabbelier: because some weirdos tried hiding explosives in a printer cartridge |
| 21:38.40 | SRabbelier | kblin: so you can't carry them... in your hand luggage? |
| 21:38.55 | kblin | nor in the checked luggage |
| 21:38.58 | SRabbelier | kblin: also, does it seem to anyone else that the TSA is always _one step behind_? |
| 21:39.14 | kblin | security theatre |
| 21:39.16 | SRabbelier | kblin: the latter is ridiculous, don't they have magic scanning tools to find bombs in checked luggage? |
| 21:39.23 | SRabbelier | kblin: yeah, go Bruce :P |
| 21:39.45 | DrJoel | had to fly out before the step photo. :( But I do have a nice picture in front of the Android |
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| 21:47.09 | _Samo | yes i wonder where all that stuff went, I mean pics and videos |
| 21:48.42 | DrJoel | posted some to facebook .. |
| 21:49.11 | DrJoel | http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=241088&id=539166588&l=a05ea08b92 |
| 21:49.22 | DrJoel | ok .. about 150 :-D |
| 21:51.18 | _Samo | thanks DrJoel |
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| 21:52.39 | harlan | is the Code-in stuff being discussed here? |
| 21:53.40 | gevaerts | Yes |
| 21:53.45 | harlan | ok, thanks. |
| 21:54.20 | DrJoel | waves to harlan |
| 21:54.47 | harlan | We didn't have a project list posted, and that is likely the big reason we didn't get picked as an org. Just now, we realized we had some project ideas that might be perfect for the code-in - might there be a way we could see if somebody would want to "add" them to their pile? |
| 21:54.52 | harlan | Hey DrJoel! |
| 21:55.13 | harlan | We need some logo/graphics design done, and I figure that may well be a great task for a 13-18 y/o. |
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| 22:06.56 | SRabbelier | harlan: what project are you? |
| 22:07.02 | harlan | NTP |
| 22:07.22 | SRabbelier | harlan: hmmm, maybe the Debian guys can take your tasks? |
| 22:07.41 | harlan | that would be swell - who should I contact? |
| 22:07.53 | harlan | we'd be happy to mentor, of course. |
| 22:08.08 | DrJoel | or DragonflyBSD maybe? |
| 22:08.16 | harlan | We're not picky. |
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| 22:15.31 | SRabbelier | harlan: this would seem like a good topic for the mentor list |
| 22:15.42 | harlan | 'k, thanks |
| 22:15.46 | SRabbelier | just shoot a quick mail, "hi, we're so and so, and we have these tasks, which umbrella will take us" |
| 22:16.23 | harlan | will do, thanks again! |
| 22:16.48 | SRabbelier | anyone from Haiku here btw? |
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| 22:30.24 | SRabbelier | nvm |
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| 22:43.33 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: fixed, deploying now |
| 22:44.39 | DrJoel | thanks SRabbelier hopefully I won't cause too many more problems |
| 22:44.52 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: you're finding them, not causing them :P |
| 22:45.06 | gevaerts | Is there a difference? ;) |
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| 22:45.43 | DrJoel | gevaerts: doesn't feel like it from here |
| 22:46.52 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: gci/org/apply_mentor/google/gci2010 |
| 22:46.58 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/apply_mentor/google/gci2010 |
| 22:48.24 | DrJoel | notices only 16 orgs filled out their profile so far. :) |
| 22:49.09 | DrJoel | The project link goes to our top page. Is that OK? Or should it be the GCI page? |
| 22:49.16 | DrJoel | notices we need a GCI reference on home page |
| 22:51.31 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/program/accepted_orgs/google/gci2010 |
| 22:51.33 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: I accepted myself as mentor so must work now |
| 22:51.36 | SRabbelier | you can see who's slacking off there |
| 22:52.06 | DrJoel | hmmm... dukeleto for parrot likely is slacking :) |
| 22:52.30 | DrJoel | dukeleto: are you the GCI admin for Parrot/Perl again? |
| 22:55.11 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: another minor issue ... |
| 22:55.23 | DrJoel | This web site needs a different Google Maps API key. A new key can be generated at http://code.google.com/apis/maps/signup.html. |
| 22:55.33 | DrJoel | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/mentor/accept_invite/4503203 |
| 23:01.19 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: can you send 'srabbelier' a mentor invite please? |
| 23:01.27 | SRabbelier | I'll just not accept it |
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| 23:05.35 | DrJoel | on its way |
| 23:08.57 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: if you use socghop instead of google-melange |
| 23:09.02 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: does it work then? |
| 23:10.27 | DrJoel | what gets replaced? Two bad urls I managed to generate |
| 23:10.48 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: http://socghop.appspot.com/gci/mentor/accept_invite/4530202 |
| 23:11.17 | DrJoel | No popup but...This entity does not belong to you. message |
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| 23:15.54 | SRabbelier | oh, well |
| 23:15.58 | SRabbelier | obviously your inviten umber :P |
| 23:16.07 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: http://socghop.appspot.com/gci/mentor/accept_invite/4503203 |
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| 23:19.58 | thebolt | morning |
| 23:21.48 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: This request has not been accepted by the group (it can also be completed already). |
| 23:21.59 | DrJoel | so does that sound better? |
| 23:22.52 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: eh, it just means your test case is not usable anymoer :P |
| 23:23.07 | DrJoel | :-< |
| 23:23.18 | DrJoel | Can you accept the invite and try to fill in the profile? |
| 23:23.32 | DrJoel | I got the popup when the "enter profile" screen was up |
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| 23:24.29 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: I did that, and I get the problem on google-melange, but not on socghop |
| 23:25.19 | DrJoel | ok. I will leave it to you to resolve.. I can test more if you need tomorrow.. I need to go home and help my son with a math project |
| 23:25.23 | DrJoel | bye |
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