| 00:00.01 | Nightrose | summatusmentis: it's more about conflict of interest |
| 00:00.11 | Nightrose | since it's a contest |
| 00:00.26 | Nightrose | and there are some restrictions on who can take part in the rules |
| 00:00.30 | summatusmentis | oooooh |
| 00:00.50 | summatusmentis | stops trying to fake his way through trying to answer questions >.> |
| 00:00.53 | Nightrose | :D |
| 00:01.03 | Nightrose | hands summatusmentis a cookie for trying |
| 00:01.15 | kstar | summatusmentis: Thanks anyway. |
| 00:01.18 | kstar | Anyway, I shot a mail to Carol |
| 00:01.34 | summatusmentis | was just gonna say, Carol's probably the best person to answer this question |
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| 02:14.43 | sfb | kai: I can't change the status of anything to Open |
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| 06:09.33 | kblin | sfb: ok, I'll just publish all of them then |
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| 06:37.38 | kblin | phew |
| 06:38.07 | kblin | finished fixing the required time just in time and hurries off to the talks |
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| 07:23.06 | timotei | hey guys :) |
| 07:23.19 | timotei | is there any gci related channel, or everything will happen here? |
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| 07:41.40 | jrabbit | Oh my it is the 22nd isn't it? |
| 07:42.25 | timotei | yeah it is |
| 07:42.38 | ojwb | timotei: I think it's here for general stuff, or #melange for issues with the web app |
| 07:45.21 | jrabbit | Is there a way to "claim" a ticket to let others know you're wotking on it? or is it all handled via the individual project's bug trackers? |
| 07:45.39 | timotei | jrabbit: iirc, it's handled by gsoc's tracker :) |
| 07:45.43 | timotei | common for all projects |
| 07:45.54 | jrabbit | timotei: I can't seem to find it >_< |
| 07:46.05 | timotei | jrabbit: because the contest hasn't started yet?:) |
| 07:46.14 | jrabbit | timotei: The topic lies then. |
| 07:46.21 | timotei | ? |
| 07:46.28 | timotei | what who? |
| 07:47.05 | ojwb | it's not 22nd at google HQ yet |
| 07:47.18 | ojwb | 23:47 on sunday in california |
| 07:47.32 | timotei | jrabbit: and it's 8 AM on UTC |
| 07:47.36 | timotei | it needs to be * |
| 07:47.46 | jrabbit | Heh guess I can wait 15 min... didn't realize the topic hadn't changed since Nov 5th... |
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| 07:47.54 | timotei | :P |
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| 08:02.33 | dreimark | 8:00 UTC |
| 08:02.52 | timotei | yey |
| 08:02.59 | Nightrose | wonders if students can access http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/list_org_tasks/google/gci2010/kde now |
| 08:03.09 | timotei | I can list all tasks |
| 08:03.20 | timotei | hmm |
| 08:03.24 | Nightrose | timotei: at that link? need to know if i can put that in a blogpost |
| 08:03.26 | timotei | Nightrose: but yeah. can't do that |
| 08:03.32 | timotei | You first need to sign up as an Org Admin or a Mentor. |
| 08:03.33 | timotei | :( |
| 08:03.37 | jrabbit | Nightrose: 500 error :( |
| 08:03.40 | Nightrose | meh |
| 08:03.52 | Nightrose | ok can someone give me a link that can be viewed by students? |
| 08:04.21 | timotei | I guess this: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/program/list_tasks/google/gci2010 |
| 08:04.27 | timotei | but it still loads tasks:_? |
| 08:04.41 | Nightrose | thx timotei :) |
| 08:04.46 | timotei | Nightrose: yw |
| 08:05.39 | jrabbit | http://www.google-melange.com/soc/content/images/jqgrid_loading.gif :( |
| 08:06.16 | timotei | yeah eayh eayh :( |
| 08:06.51 | timotei | I guess: 1) either are too many tasks 2) are too many people browsing that 3) the server holding the tasks isn't too performant ; |
| 08:10.16 | jrabbit | GAE is unhappy. |
| 08:10.54 | dreimark | how much students/mentors online ? |
| 08:11.43 | jrabbit | I wonder if it'll be worse in the morning |
| 08:13.47 | timotei | hmm |
| 08:13.51 | timotei | Error: Server Error |
| 08:13.51 | timotei | The server encountered an error and could not complete your request. |
| 08:13.51 | timotei | If the problem persists, please report your problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it. |
| 08:13.52 | timotei | haha |
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| 08:27.41 | spectie | mornin' all |
| 08:28.00 | timotei | morning spectie |
| 08:28.11 | timotei | I wonder when the tasks list will work:) |
| 08:28.46 | spectie | same here :) |
| 08:28.58 | spectie | are they not showing up to students yet ? |
| 08:29.04 | timotei | no |
| 08:29.13 | timotei | did that work for mentors? |
| 08:29.28 | spectie | i can see my organisation's tasks |
| 08:29.45 | timotei | so you are a mentor, right? |
| 08:30.15 | spectie | yep |
| 08:30.19 | spectie | org admin too :) |
| 08:30.23 | timotei | nice |
| 08:30.31 | spectie | November 22, 2010, 12:00 AM Pacific Time / 08:00 UTC: Contest opens for entries by student participants |
| 08:30.36 | timotei | yeah |
| 08:30.46 | spectie | should be open according to the timeline |
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| 08:33.42 | jrabbit | bah :( |
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| 08:37.37 | timotei | http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GausssInterpolationFormula.html |
| 08:37.51 | timotei | ops. wrong chat |
| 08:38.57 | thiago_home | well, it's always useful :-) |
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| 08:40.03 | thiago_home | hated Gauss when he was in school |
| 08:40.34 | timotei | well, tbh, I hate more Cauchy, since he had 'stolen' the most formulas from other guy |
| 08:40.53 | timotei | ending up in: you know Cauchy's formula? What formula? Well, the 23rd of ... |
| 08:41.45 | thebolt | i was going to say.. which Cauchy-formula? ;) |
| 08:41.58 | timotei | thebolt: yeah. Which.:P |
| 08:42.46 | timotei | âªâªâª |
| 08:43.27 | thiago_home | yeah, but Cauchy was more like University |
| 08:44.25 | timotei | well... I'l going to maths. Hopefully the list of task will be back later |
| 08:45.00 | thebolt | well, Cauchy-Riemann is pretty useful.. |
| 08:45.51 | thebolt | but so is Cauchy-Bunyakovsky-Schwarz ;) |
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| 09:09.07 | dreimark | timotei: it worked before 8 and a little bit afterwards |
| 09:11.24 | timotei | dreimark: well, it doesn't work now... so I guess we'll wait |
| 09:12.01 | dreimark | it works now |
| 09:12.11 | dreimark | at least for me |
| 09:12.19 | timotei | this? http://www.google-melange.com/gci/program/list_tasks/google/gci2010 |
| 09:12.36 | dreimark | the task list of moin |
| 09:12.44 | dreimark | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/list_org_tasks/google/gci2010/moinmoin |
| 09:14.28 | timotei | dreimark: that's a 500 Server error for me :) |
| 09:14.59 | dreimark | so it is selective ;) |
| 09:15.34 | timotei | :D |
| 09:18.24 | ojwb | .- |
| 09:18.38 | ojwb | um, you didn't see that |
| 09:19.00 | ojwb | just hopes nobody here understands morse code |
| 09:19.29 | dreimark | ...---... |
| 09:19.50 | thebolt | dreimark: thats an invalid sequence though (ie, its never sent like that;) |
| 09:20.00 | thebolt | ojwb: .... .. |
| 09:20.15 | timotei | dreimark: You first need to sign up as an Org Admin or a Mentor. |
| 09:20.39 | dreimark | timotei: i know it is my view, some parts are working |
| 09:21.56 | dreimark | i have no access to the students interface |
| 09:22.35 | timotei | dreimark: this is studen'ts inteface: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/program/list_tasks/google/gci2010 |
| 09:22.38 | timotei | anyways, need to go |
| 09:22.39 | timotei | bye bye |
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| 09:53.25 | spectie | hey all |
| 09:53.47 | dreimark | moin spectie |
| 09:54.26 | thebolt | hi spectie |
| 09:54.32 | spectie | hey |
| 09:54.36 | dreimark | someone somewhere something claimed? |
| 09:54.43 | spectie | not yet |
| 09:56.26 | Nightrose | here neither |
| 09:57.46 | spectie | Nightrose, dreimark are students able to claim tasks yet ? |
| 09:58.10 | Nightrose | spectie: they should be yes but melange isn't able to show the task list atm it seems |
| 09:58.17 | Nightrose | so no way for them to claim tasks |
| 09:58.25 | spectie | ah |
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| 10:43.36 | jacktheripper | the tasklist isn't working for me. Is this known ? |
| 10:44.35 | spectie | yes |
| 10:44.39 | Nightrose | jacktheripper: yea seems to be for everyone |
| 10:44.41 | spectie | i think the melange guys are working on it |
| 10:44.47 | jacktheripper | I hope so :/ |
| 10:45.35 | spectie | jacktheripper, are you a student ? |
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| 10:45.45 | jacktheripper | spectie, yep |
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| 10:46.01 | spectie | hey svaksha ! |
| 10:46.16 | spectie | jacktheripper, which organisations are you applying for tasks in ? |
| 10:46.25 | jacktheripper | spectie, debian, so far. |
| 10:46.34 | spectie | cool |
| 10:46.41 | jacktheripper | yeah :D |
| 10:48.14 | Nightrose | people interested in kde tasks can hang out in #kde-soc btw |
| 10:48.41 | spectie | and apertium in #apertium |
| 10:48.42 | spectie | :) |
| 10:50.33 | jacktheripper | previous knowledge is welcome right ? |
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| 10:51.40 | spectie | jacktheripper, not really |
| 10:51.49 | spectie | jacktheripper, any kind of language knowledge |
| 10:52.34 | jacktheripper | I meant previous knowledge as in being a good linux user/progger. |
| 10:53.01 | svaksha | spectie: hola, how are you? |
| 10:53.11 | spectie | svaksha, muy bien, gracias :) |
| 10:53.23 | spectie | svaksha, know any students getting involved in gci ? |
| 10:55.04 | svaksha | spectie: nope :( mentioning 'linux' scares them. The perception that linux is for engineers is too strong. |
| 10:55.10 | spectie | :( |
| 10:55.32 | spectie | we have some stuff as easy as "translate a wikipedia page" |
| 10:55.35 | spectie | for outreach |
| 10:55.51 | m4k3r | 's F5 button is weared. |
| 10:56.01 | svaksha | yeah, i should market those instead. |
| 10:56.10 | svaksha | will visit some schools nearby |
| 10:57.08 | spectie | cool :) |
| 10:57.14 | spectie | it doesn't have to be about programming |
| 10:57.32 | svaksha | yup, there are other tasks they can start out with |
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| 10:59.32 | svaksha | spectie: if you need mentors, i'm available |
| 11:00.16 | spectie | svaksha, cool |
| 11:00.25 | spectie | svaksha, #apertium |
| 11:01.39 | spectie | oops, got to go |
| 11:01.40 | spectie | bbiab |
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| 11:32.17 | jacktheripper | this is taking too long :-/ |
| 11:33.33 | m4k3r | +1 |
| 11:36.31 | andre__ | "this"? |
| 11:37.53 | jacktheripper | tasklist. |
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| 11:41.29 | Samoi | the time-line says it will be up 12pm pacific standard time |
| 11:43.21 | m4k3r | Samoi: in UTC that's? |
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| 11:44.24 | Samoi | -08:00 |
| 11:45.22 | Samoi | in ~8hrs 15mins |
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| 11:52.30 | jacktheripper | uh -08:00 ? I thought it's 08:00 |
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| 11:52.39 | jacktheripper | isn't it started already ? |
| 11:52.47 | m4k3r | No. |
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| 11:53.18 | jacktheripper | it's 11:53 UTC now |
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| 12:10.11 | jacktheripper | Samoi, it's 12am Pacific not 12pm -> http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2010/timeline |
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| 12:12.40 | Samoi | 12 noon |
| 12:13.14 | Samoi | err |
| 12:13.18 | jacktheripper | 12pm is noon. 12am is night. |
| 12:13.36 | Samoi | thanks |
| 12:13.45 | Samoi | I can never seem to get that right |
| 12:13.52 | jacktheripper | haha :) |
| 12:14.39 | jacktheripper | they're experiencing 'memory errors' now :S |
| 12:22.40 | m4k3r | <SRabbelier> m4k3r: I'm looking into it right now, hopefully within the hour |
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| 13:23.41 | sfb | SRabbelier: I just want to thank you again for all of the work you guys put into the site. |
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| 13:24.08 | SRabbelier | sfb: Thanks, although I'm not sure we deserve it after launching the program with a broken site :P |
| 13:24.32 | sfb | Doesn't mean you don't work hard. (= |
| 13:24.39 | SRabbelier | True I suppose :) |
| 13:25.02 | sfb | I'm sure you're getting enough "wtf are you doing" comments taht you don't need me heaping on top of it. |
| 13:25.23 | SRabbelier | sfb: Thanks, I appreciate it |
| 13:29.31 | *** topic/#gsoc by SRabbelier -> Google Code-In 2010-11 is on! - Site currently down, testing fix - File Feature Requests & Bugs at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue - Read the FAQs: http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/faqs.html |
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| 13:29.52 | jacktheripper | awesome |
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| 13:51.33 | *** topic/#gsoc by SRabbelier -> Google Code-In 2010-11 is on! - Students can start claiming tasks at http://goo.gl/pgBMn - File Feature Requests & Bugs at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue - Read the FAQs: http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/faqs.html |
| 13:51.36 | SRabbelier | Aaaand we're back! |
| 13:51.43 | m4k3r | \m/ |
| 13:52.13 | *** topic/#gsoc by SRabbelier -> Google Code-In 2010-11 is on! - Students can start claiming tasks at http://goo.gl/rl4Se - File Feature Requests & Bugs at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue - Read the FAQs: http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/faqs.html |
| 13:53.46 | SRabbelier | !next |
| 13:53.47 | socinfo | SRabbelier: "next" is November 22, 2010: Contest opens for entries by student participants |
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| 14:14.04 | jacktheripper | do we need to contact the contact field in each task for ClaimRequest to be accepted ? |
| 14:14.28 | jacktheripper | and how do we submit the solutions ? links in comments ? |
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| 14:49.58 | Nightrose | jacktheripper: they should get an email but poking on irc might help in some cases to speed it up |
| 14:50.08 | Nightrose | solution submission is up to your mentor i think |
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| 14:51.31 | jacktheripper | Nightrose: how do I find 'em on IRC if only their full names are listed on the page ? common sense ? :D |
| 14:51.48 | Nightrose | jacktheripper: google for their name - helps sometimes |
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| 14:52.03 | Nightrose | or ask in the project channel |
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| 15:18.44 | spectie | oops |
| 15:18.48 | spectie | <spectie> SRabbelier, |
| 15:18.50 | spectie | <spectie> after a student has claimed a task |
| 15:18.52 | spectie | <spectie> do we need to 'accept' it before they start working on it ? |
| 15:18.54 | spectie | * Desconnectat (La connexió ha expirat). |
| 15:18.56 | spectie | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.58 | spectie | did i miss anything ? |
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| 15:20.43 | SRabbelier | spectie: yes, you do need to accept it first |
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| 15:20.48 | spectie | ok |
| 15:21.11 | spectie | thanks |
| 15:21.14 | SRabbelier | spectie: I mean, nothing stops the student from starting anyway |
| 15:21.32 | SRabbelier | spectie: but they won't be able to submit work until it's accepted, and it's possible for the mentor to reject their claim |
| 15:22.29 | spectie | ok |
| 15:23.45 | spectie | SRabbelier, we can reject their submitted owrk |
| 15:23.47 | spectie | *work |
| 15:23.49 | spectie | after it is accepted ? |
| 15:24.21 | SRabbelier | spectie: you can reject their claim before they start, and you can reject their work when they submit it, or tell them that it needs more work |
| 15:24.31 | spectie | ok |
| 15:24.32 | spectie | great |
| 15:24.36 | SRabbelier | I'm pretty sure this is documented :P |
| 15:24.40 | spectie | sorry :P |
| 15:24.41 | SRabbelier | although don't ask me where |
| 15:24.46 | spectie | i'll go and google it |
| 15:24.57 | spectie | just wanted to make sure i wasn't 'accepting' something before i'd seen anything |
| 15:24.58 | SRabbelier | spectie: let me know if you find it :P |
| 15:27.42 | madrazr | SRabbelier: on our wiki for sure |
| 15:27.48 | madrazr | SRabbelier: will get the link, a minute |
| 15:27.57 | SRabbelier | madrazr: sweet |
| 15:28.39 | madrazr | spectie: http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GCIUserManual#Task This play should help you :P |
| 15:28.48 | spectie | :D |
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| 15:59.28 | DrJoel | YEAH! Our first task claimed :-D |
| 15:59.54 | Nightrose | DrJoel: congrats |
| 16:00.02 | Nightrose | has 19 so far \o/ |
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| 16:01.57 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: awesome! |
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| 16:02.43 | Nightrose | SRabbelier: indeed! |
| 16:02.46 | Nightrose | bounces |
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| 16:05.07 | DrJoel | So what happens next? There has been no other contact I see from the student |
| 16:05.49 | sfb | Congrats DrJoel, Nightrose. |
| 16:06.08 | sfb | I have one student I just gave a more detailed description of a task. I think he's going to claim it. (; |
| 16:06.09 | DrJoel | Nightrose: 19!!! Wow! |
| 16:06.10 | andre__ | choose whether to accept or reject the student? :) |
| 16:06.31 | Nightrose | DrJoel: yea russian translations are extremely popular it seems :D |
| 16:06.50 | Nightrose | and we have a few of them |
| 16:07.25 | DrJoel | Ahhh.. an entire group of similar tasks getting snatched.. ours was eBook format research |
| 16:07.32 | thebolt | i think translation tasks are popular with people who never did serious translating.. translations sucks :P |
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| 16:07.43 | Nightrose | thebolt: lol |
| 16:07.54 | thebolt | i never translated software though |
| 16:08.52 | thebolt | (only user and repair manuals.. for a 60MW powerplant.. among other things) |
| 16:11.14 | gevaerts | agrees with thebolt |
| 16:11.19 | gevaerts | It's not easy at all |
| 16:11.53 | thebolt | you need to be ery familiar with the domain of the text you are translating |
| 16:11.59 | thebolt | otherwise it won't be good |
| 16:12.28 | gevaerts | I know that in rockbox we got some questions from translators a while ago about what "hard knee" means :) |
| 16:12.37 | thebolt | and you must translate to your native language (from N>1th language) |
| 16:12.37 | gevaerts | actually still doesn't know |
| 16:14.02 | thebolt | same thing as teaching a language.. its terribly hard |
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| 16:14.08 | DrJoel | has a friend at LG who has to proof read the manuals in English .. he favorite is the "breaking wind screen" over the microphone on a video camera |
| 16:14.33 | thebolt | reminds me.. need to prepare for my class tomorrow morning.. oh well, i'll do taht tomorrow morning just before class :P |
| 16:14.38 | gevaerts | :) |
| 16:16.17 | thebolt | for being a person that just graduated in august i have terribly much classes in my life right now .. |
| 16:16.48 | thebolt | (5 a week, 4 as student and 1 as teacher) |
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| 17:08.28 | andre__ | https://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/index.html , section "Participating Open Source Projects" links to all of the task *planning* pages of the participating organizations. That does not make any sense as those tasks all have been migrated to google melange. |
| 17:08.36 | andre__ | can somebody from google change this please? |
| 17:09.05 | andre__ | e.g. for GNOME it would be http://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn instead of http://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/Tasks |
| 17:09.28 | andre__ | I can also create a redirect in the gnome wiki for the time being, but I guess gnome is not the only project with this "problem" |
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| 17:12.23 | SRabbelier | andre__: good point, can you mail Carol about that? |
| 17:12.53 | andre__ | I'll send a mail to gci-discuss |
| 17:15.43 | SRabbelier | andre__: eh, preferrably directly to Carol |
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| 17:15.50 | SRabbelier | andre__: nobody but her can do anything about it |
| 17:16.03 | SRabbelier | andre__: so you'd be spamming everybody else with something they can't act on |
| 17:18.48 | andre__ | done |
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| 17:21.52 | jrabbit | is melange working now? |
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| 17:23.30 | SRabbelier | jrabbit: has been for a while now |
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| 17:31.49 | DrJoel | thinks asking a student who claimed a task why he was interested in that one was enough to scare him off? |
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| 17:36.37 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: could be :P |
| 17:38.51 | dukeleto | hola |
| 17:39.18 | dukeleto | so i see that some students are trying to claim tasks, but no comment is given. Are others seeing this? |
| 17:40.27 | DrJoel | dukeleto: yep and that was why I asked why the student was interested.. then he/she withdrew the claim. :( |
| 17:40.33 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: how can I change the mentor of a task? |
| 17:40.42 | dukeleto | DrJoel: hmmm. That does not bode well. |
| 17:41.08 | DrJoel | no .. I wonder if something could be added to the top page giving hint about a "silent claim" |
| 17:41.08 | dukeleto | I don't even get a link to the students profiles that are trying to claim tickets? All I get is their name? |
| 17:41.22 | dukeleto | How am I supposed to know if the student is a good fit? |
| 17:41.32 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: Use the "Edit this task" link |
| 17:41.38 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: of course, only works if the task hasn't been claimed yet |
| 17:41.47 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: that sucks. |
| 17:42.00 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: see also http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1016 |
| 17:42.02 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: sorry to be blunt, but that is not a useful feature. |
| 17:42.26 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: the task hasn't been claimed yet, but there is a claim request |
| 17:42.28 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: Can you add a comment there that the mentor should be editable at all times? |
| 17:42.36 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: yes sir |
| 17:42.55 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: thanks |
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| 17:44.39 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: done. |
| 17:45.15 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: i think it is also a very bad idea that students can do a claim request without sending any comment, as well as not having a profile that I can see |
| 17:45.21 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: where do I complain about that properly? |
| 17:45.34 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: create a http://tinyurl.com/new-issue for that I suppose |
| 17:45.48 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: do students have profiles? |
| 17:45.54 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: not neccesarily |
| 17:45.56 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: they'rem inors |
| 17:46.06 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: we can't give you a lot of info about them because of that |
| 17:46.19 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: until they complete their first task they only have a User profile (link_id + name) |
| 17:46.30 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: sure. I don't want to know their SSN. I want to know what they know about technology |
| 17:47.01 | sfb | dukeleto: I've run into that already too. |
| 17:47.06 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: understandable, that's what the comments are for I suppose |
| 17:47.13 | sfb | dukeleto: Thus ensued a comment exchange four times to get them on IRC to talk |
| 17:47.28 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: but the comments are not mandatory |
| 17:47.44 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: you can leave a comment, and not accept the request until they reply |
| 17:48.32 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: sure. But that is suboptimal. It creates a huge amount of work and back-and-forth for admins, to get info that should be there already |
| 17:48.57 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: put it in the task description? |
| 17:49.17 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: even if we make the comment field required, that doesn't solve the social issue |
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| 17:54.02 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1018 |
| 17:54.14 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: yes, i agree. But something is better than nothing. |
| 17:54.40 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: I like step 3 |
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| 17:56.18 | dukeleto | SRabbelier: yep. |
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| 18:11.25 | dreimark | SRabbelier: what is the meaning of AwaitingRegistration |
| 18:11.52 | SRabbelier | dreimark: student needs to fill out their student profile after completing the first task |
| 18:12.33 | dreimark | ok |
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| 18:17.20 | sfb | Hmn. Did I miss something? I'm not getting notified of claims or comments on my tasks. )= |
| 18:17.47 | SRabbelier | sfb: can you check if you are you subscribed to those tasks? |
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| 18:18.54 | dreimark | SRabbelier: same for us, we are not subscribed but assigned as mentor |
| 18:19.20 | SRabbelier | dreimark: that's been noted |
| 18:19.36 | sfb | SRabbelier: How do I check that? |
| 18:19.40 | SRabbelier | http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1015 |
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| 18:19.55 | SRabbelier | sfb: Go to the task, if the star next to it is grey, you're not subscribed |
| 18:20.17 | sfb | SRabbelier: Cool. I'll go click all of them. |
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| 18:21.03 | timotei | Hi guys :) |
| 18:21.07 | SRabbelier | sfb: sorry about that |
| 18:21.12 | timotei | I have a question, now that the GCI Tracker has opened |
| 18:21.33 | sfb | SRabbelier: Hey no problem, now I know what to do I'm good to go. |
| 18:21.39 | timotei | can a user "request" another task while 1 is in "ClaimRequested" state? |
| 18:21.46 | SRabbelier | timotei: no |
| 18:22.09 | timotei | SRabbelier: so: only one task working on, and only 1 claimrequested task pe user |
| 18:22.11 | timotei | thanks:) |
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| 18:23.10 | SRabbelier | timotei: uhm |
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| 18:23.23 | SRabbelier | timotei: you can only have something to do with 1 task at a time |
| 18:23.25 | timotei | SRabbelier: the first part is from rules :0 |
| 18:23.34 | SRabbelier | timotei: whether that's having requested a claim, working on it, or whatever |
| 18:23.45 | timotei | SRabbelier: yeah. ok. |
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| 18:25.57 | kblin | SRabbelier: ok, so basically if a student claims a task, all we can do is either accept or reject, but there's nothing we can base our decision on? :) |
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| 18:26.18 | SRabbelier | kai: ask them for more info? |
| 18:26.20 | sfb | kblin: You can comment back and forth with them. Coerce them to join IRC. |
| 18:26.26 | SRabbelier | right |
| 18:26.37 | sfb | kblin: That's what I've been doing. |
| 18:26.43 | sfb | Seems to be working. |
| 18:26.55 | timotei | hi carols :0 |
| 18:26.59 | timotei | :) |
| 18:27.11 | carols | hi timotei :) |
| 18:27.14 | carols | good day for a contest |
| 18:27.19 | SRabbelier | ah, there's carols, perhaps she can explain some of the thinking behind all this :) |
| 18:27.25 | carols | behind which? |
| 18:27.31 | carols | someone get me up to speed :-) |
| 18:27.33 | timotei | carols: yeah. it remembers me of gsoc's 'finalist' day :D |
| 18:28.11 | timotei | SRabbelier: do the mentors which introduced tasks get the power to accept/reject it? or its the org admin? |
| 18:28.20 | SRabbelier | timotei: the mentors |
| 18:28.21 | kblin | sfb: I'm at a conference right now.. |
| 18:28.29 | timotei | SRabbelier: thanks :) |
| 18:28.33 | kblin | sfb: so online time for me is a bit tricky right now |
| 18:28.47 | SRabbelier | carols: basically, http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1016#c9 |
| 18:29.06 | SRabbelier | carols: and also http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1018#c2 |
| 18:29.17 | kblin | sfb: despite being able to read my google calendar, google is doing a good job of double-booking |
| 18:29.22 | SRabbelier | carols: mentors/admins are having a hard time communicating with their students |
| 18:29.25 | sfb | kblin: Anything I can help with for you then? |
| 18:29.26 | kblin | ;) |
| 18:29.31 | carols | SRabbelier: can you give me the cliffs notes version? what's the problem right now? |
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| 18:30.08 | kblin | sfb: not sure, I'll have to go through the tasks first |
| 18:30.25 | SRabbelier | carols: "(7:14:11 PM) JaneWells: yeah, it's rough b/c we're getting people just saying 'i want to claim this task' and we have no idea who they are, if they're qualified, etc. that seems like an odd position for legal to take." |
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| 18:30.54 | SRabbelier | carols: and also "(7:13:07 PM) dukeleto: JaneWells: i wish they had profiles. Seems like they are just ghosts with usernames" |
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| 18:31.53 | SRabbelier | carols: and for Issue 1016 the problem is that tasks can't be edited after they leave the "Open" state |
| 18:32.03 | carols | SRabbelier: is there proposed solution? |
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| 18:32.51 | SRabbelier | carols: I've suggested allowing the task to be edited as long as a student isn't working on it, but Madhu says: "Jaleto, if you would change the mentors mid-way, there is no fair way of judging. The previous mentor would have disqualified a student's work. An org admin changes the mentor later. The new mentor accepts the same work submitted by another student. What happens to the work by the previous student? " |
| 18:33.21 | SRabbelier | madrazr: ^ |
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| 18:33.48 | carols | SRabbelier: can't students already make comments on the task when they want to claim it? |
| 18:33.59 | SRabbelier | carols: the problem is that they don't |
| 18:34.35 | kblin | right, I was about to ask about the proposed tactic on students that just go in and claim the task |
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| 18:35.01 | carols | SRabbelier: we can't force them to make comments :-) they should still be able to claim a task even if they don't comment on why they want it |
| 18:35.16 | SRabbelier | carols: ok, so dukeleto, you heard it ;) |
| 18:35.22 | JaneWells | the fact that there's no profile or anything is what makes it feel odd |
| 18:35.43 | carols | JaneWells: that's a specific need we have that has regard to minors participating in the contest. |
| 18:36.12 | carols | until they do something on a task, we don't ask them for more info than a username and Display Name |
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| 18:38.18 | kblin | fair enough |
| 18:38.57 | kblin | so basically we just go and accept whoever wants to do something, and if they fail, tough luck, the task goes back to the "open" pool? |
| 18:39.07 | carols | kblin: yes. :-) |
| 18:39.13 | kblin | ok, can do |
| 18:39.32 | gevaerts | Since it's a contest, pre-selecting based on perceived abilities could actually be seen as unfair |
| 18:41.13 | kblin | fair enough, why do we have the ability to reject then? :) |
| 18:41.46 | JaneWells | i just hate setting kids up to fail. if there was a profile, if it looked like they didn't have the right experience level, they could be pointed to a more appropriate task that seemed like it would be more likely to be successful. i'm also thinking of the mentors' time, but i'm sure it will all work out |
| 18:42.20 | gevaerts | kblin: excellent question :) |
| 18:42.43 | carols | JaneWells: i don't think we're setting them up to fail if the descriptions on the tasks are detailed enough. also, if they don't feel confident to claim it they can choose to comment on it and talk to you about it instead of asking to claim it. if they feel ready to claim it, that's when they claim it |
| 18:43.17 | sfb | kblin: I've already had one student request to claim on of my unit test tasks. He had no experience so I suggested an alternative one - which was to just split up existing ones. |
| 18:43.39 | JaneWells | i guess we've just been burned by gsoc students who claim they can do something and then totoally can't, but we're okay with being a little bit guinea pig here |
| 18:44.28 | kblin | JaneWells: but this is a contest.. if you do a sports contest all but the first (three?) are set up to fail... |
| 18:44.38 | gevaerts | JaneWells: we're not talking about three months of work here, so if something doesn't work, it's not *that* bad |
| 18:44.51 | JaneWells | gevaerts: true |
| 18:45.20 | kblin | holy crapp.. I just realized that by editing the time the tasks could take, I'm automatically subscribed to all open tasks... |
| 18:45.22 | JaneWells | kblin: i don't see what you're saying about the first three, but its fine |
| 18:45.23 | kblin | whoa |
| 18:45.28 | kblin | sets up a filter |
| 18:45.49 | JaneWells | we just feel like we could support them better if we knew a little bit about them and/or could contact them with follow info (most students in gsoc never go back to read comments) |
| 18:45.49 | sfb | ?? |
| 18:45.58 | kblin | JaneWells: if I go to a running competition, the fastest three get a medal |
| 18:46.07 | kblin | everybody else just fails |
| 18:46.14 | sfb | I agree. I feel better suggesting a more appropriate task for their skill level than blindly accepting requests. |
| 18:46.35 | sfb | kblin: 2nd place just the first loser. (; |
| 18:46.36 | JaneWells | kblin: i don't think that's a relevant metaphor, since tasks are off the table while someone has it claimed |
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| 18:46.56 | kblin | JaneWells: true |
| 18:47.37 | JaneWells | we're just going to keep rolling out tasks every day, so that the eager beavers who do the rush to claim wont lock everythign down on day 1 |
| 18:48.11 | kblin | I can come up with more 3d modelling tasks all the time ;) |
| 18:48.38 | timotei | JaneWells: I think you are right. There should be something like a profile, where kids put their "known" and unkown skills |
| 18:49.10 | timotei | I guess a statistics table could be very nice in the kid's profile page, when needing to chose against 2 or more kids |
| 18:49.40 | JaneWells | carols: when they do a profile after completing the first task, will the profile show their tasks to date? |
| 18:50.49 | kblin | I guess it's all learning as we go |
| 18:51.02 | carols | JaneWells: you'll be able to click on any student's name on the Show Ranking page and see all the things he/she has done |
| 18:51.04 | kblin | I'm looking forward on getting feedback on my time estimates |
| 18:51.20 | JaneWells | carols: cool. |
| 18:51.27 | andre__ | feature requests should probably go to https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list ? |
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| 18:53.44 | JaneWells | kblin: yeah, we were pretty unclear on how the points vs duration would work out, so we tried to make our tasks all be about 3 days' worth of work for parity |
| 18:53.53 | JaneWells | whether easy or hard |
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| 19:19.16 | jacktheripper | what can I do when a 'Contact' is not replying ? |
| 19:19.44 | jacktheripper | I've been trying since about 2-3 hours.. |
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| 19:21.18 | JaneWells | jacktheripper: what kind of contact? |
| 19:21.37 | jacktheripper | JaneWells, the person I'm supposed to give the solution to. |
| 19:21.39 | Mek | and 2-3 hours isn't much with people potentially in any timezone |
| 19:22.04 | jacktheripper | they're listed as 'Contact's under every task. |
| 19:22.13 | JaneWells | has the duration of the task expired? i know my guys are planning to check ac ouple of times a day, but otherwise will be in irc when they are available |
| 19:23.22 | jacktheripper | about 2 days left :D he's on IRC, no reply. |
| 19:23.26 | jacktheripper | nevermind :) |
| 19:23.34 | JaneWells | probably working on his open source project |
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| 19:26.06 | jacktheripper | if the contact is offline/away, can I submit the solution as a comment to the task ? |
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| 19:32.19 | andre__ | jacktheripper: yes, attach it to the task. makes sense anyway for the sake of transparency |
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| 19:32.45 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: Do you see something wrong with http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128940422174? I don't have an option to approve it and let them start |
| 19:32.57 | andre__ | plus I really recommend patience. most of the mentors and admins also have daily jobs and timezones too :-P |
| 19:34.18 | DrJoel | andre__: and Thanksgiving if you are in certain countries :-D |
| 19:34.49 | andre__ | ah. hehe |
| 19:35.44 | DrJoel | andre__: and that ignores that my wife's new netbook arrived this morning and setting it up preempts all activities. LOL |
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| 19:37.22 | andre__ | DrJoel: heh. here it was the other round - got a netbook a few days ago (thanks to Intel) and my girlfriend started playing with it. I didn't receive any attention for those 15 minutes ;-) |
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| 19:44.11 | DrJoel | andre__: cool on it being free.. this one wasn't.. she has great self control if if was only 15 minutes of inattention |
| 19:44.31 | andre__ | heh |
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| 19:52.57 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: it's not claimed yet |
| 19:53.03 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: the student just left a comment |
| 19:53.26 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: they need to request to claim the task |
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| 20:07.59 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: Thanks.. learning here. :-D |
| 20:08.07 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: np |
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| 20:26.39 | SRabbelier | New release deployed |
| 20:26.43 | SRabbelier | dukeleto: edit away on those tasks |
| 20:26.55 | m4k3r | Awaiting Registration == task solved? |
| 20:28.07 | DrJoel | is shocked.. nice writeup for one of our research tasks is already in place.. student had robotics experience and had prior experience in the area. WOW! |
| 20:28.38 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: sweet :) |
| 20:28.53 | SRabbelier | m4k3r: yeah, you as Mentor don't have to do anything now |
| 20:29.01 | SRabbelier | m4k3r: student obviously has to create their profile now :) |
| 20:29.14 | m4k3r | SRabbelier: I'm a student xD: |
| 20:29.21 | m4k3r | what should I do? |
| 20:29.26 | SRabbelier | m4k3r: register as a student? |
| 20:29.33 | m4k3r | I AM a student. |
| 20:29.44 | m4k3r | Registered as a student, yes. |
| 20:30.02 | thiago_home | sometimes has nightmares that he's a student |
| 20:30.25 | schumaml | I know that one |
| 20:30.26 | m4k3r | :o I haven't noticed the section for subscribing. |
| 20:30.30 | m4k3r | SRabbelier: thanks. |
| 20:30.41 | SRabbelier | thiago_home: lol |
| 20:30.54 | SRabbelier | is laughing out loud |
| 20:31.24 | thiago_home | usually that I am unprepared for an exam, or that I forgot to go to classes and I'm about to fail for absence |
| 20:31.36 | schumaml | thiago_home: http://xkcd.com/557/ |
| 20:32.10 | thiago_home | last time it was that I hadn't completed my credits and my diplomas weren't valid |
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| 20:32.55 | thiago_home | schumaml: yep, like that |
| 20:33.16 | thiago_home | is school that traumatic that we keep remembering it? |
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| 20:37.43 | DrJoel | when do the mentors get email? we have a couple of claimed tasks and the mentor assigned hasn't gotten notice yet |
| 20:39.44 | sfb | DrJoel: You have to click the grey star next to the task description. |
| 20:39.52 | sfb | DrJoel: Otherwise you won't get any notices. |
| 20:41.19 | SRabbelier | thiago_home: I suppose it is ;) |
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| 20:41.44 | SRabbelier | thinks there'll probably will be a request for a mass-subscribe again |
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| 20:44.16 | DrJoel | sfb: Ahhh thanks.. SRabbelier yes.. the default should be subscribed for the mentor.. |
| 20:48.44 | jacktheripper | can't I claim another task when I submitted work for one ? :S It isn't my fault when reviewers take a long time. |
| 20:49.00 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: subscribe star doesn't appear to work in IE8. mentor tried it in firefox and it worked |
| 20:49.50 | SRabbelier | jacktheripper: nope, that's part of the contest |
| 20:49.55 | SRabbelier | jacktheripper: you'll just have to wait |
| 20:50.00 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: don't use IE |
| 20:51.07 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: it's officially _not_ supported :P |
| 20:51.09 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: that's what I told her LOL |
| 20:51.23 | DrJoel | says the same thing at home ... |
| 20:51.26 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: we'll spend no time to improve our IE support, unless someone sends in a working patch |
| 20:51.29 | jacktheripper | are the reviewers participating in the contest too ? xD how's it part of the contest ? |
| 20:53.08 | SRabbelier | jacktheripper: it's as much part of the contest as the fact that the site was down earlier |
| 20:53.12 | SRabbelier | jacktheripper: it's just how things are |
| 20:54.17 | DrJoel | SRabbelier: don't worry it won't be me patching it |
| 20:54.38 | SRabbelier | DrJoel: ehhe :) |
| 20:55.10 | timotei | hmm, what if a task is actually a multiple task? how are things going to go? |
| 20:55.18 | timotei | for example this: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/tux4kids/t129043985443 |
| 20:55.40 | timotei | there kids could request for multiple languages. |
| 20:56.10 | DrJoel | RTEMS would have "instantiated" that generic task for each desired language. |
| 20:56.22 | sfb | hahah |
| 20:56.43 | DrJoel | Ask if they have a language in mind. |
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| 21:00.49 | timotei | I guess melange would need some extra feature for translation tasks |
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| 21:01.49 | DrJoel | timotei: they could have just added one for French, German, etc... |
| 21:02.05 | timotei | DrJoel: lol. I think everyone hates data entry :P |
| 21:03.14 | DrJoel | timotei: agreed :D that's why I wrote a script to generate multiple tasks that were similar. We had two "generic" tasks where one could have 20 instances and another ~95 |
| 21:03.38 | timotei | lol |
| 21:03.38 | timotei | nice |
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| 21:06.19 | timotei | and yet, what we do in the task of translation -one-task-for-all-languages? |
| 21:08.46 | DrJoel | ask them which language they want first. If they intend for this to be a single language, they can change the name to XXX (French) or whatever. |
| 21:08.48 | DrJoel | So ask them |
| 21:09.11 | kblin | the students can change the task? |
| 21:09.42 | SRabbelier | kai: no |
| 21:09.58 | kblin | ok, got me there for a moment :) |
| 21:10.15 | DrJoel | no.. but the project should be able to clarify/change it .. student can ask question |
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| 21:12.13 | kblin | timotei: alternatively you can reject the task and open a new one in the correct language |
| 21:15.29 | ArthurLiu | woah, 20 tasks claimed out already |
| 21:15.43 | ArthurLiu | that is going to be fun |
| 21:16.02 | timotei | ArthurLiu: and about 60 in progress iirc |
| 21:16.10 | timotei | I guess 200 are just too few |
| 21:16.17 | timotei | for our hungry kids |
| 21:16.19 | timotei | lol |
| 21:16.31 | ArthurLiu | I totally underestimated the workload |
| 21:16.47 | timotei | :P |
| 21:16.53 | ArthurLiu | all the kids want me to respond "three hours ago" |
| 21:16.57 | timotei | haha |
| 21:17.00 | timotei | yeah |
| 21:17.14 | gevaerts | Then why don't you? :) |
| 21:17.22 | timotei | I guess, there should be also an info box, to show mentor's timezone |
| 21:17.25 | timotei | or something like that |
| 21:17.35 | kblin | ArthurLiu: tough luck for mine, I'm at a conference, I can only sneak a peek at emails once every couple of hours |
| 21:19.18 | ArthurLiu | kblin: I just moved into my new apartment and don't have internet yet |
| 21:19.24 | ArthurLiu | I'm on my balcony |
| 21:19.29 | ArthurLiu | freezing to death |
| 21:19.44 | kblin | your balcony has internet but your apparment doesn't? |
| 21:19.48 | gevaerts | gives ArthurLiu a mug of hot coffee |
| 21:19.54 | c_schmitz | yeah, it is called WiFi |
| 21:20.07 | DrJoel | someone else |
| 21:20.20 | kblin | c_schmitz: there's things like bridges and range extenders |
| 21:20.50 | c_schmitz | kblin, guess his neighbour hasn't heard abou it ;) |
| 21:20.52 | kblin | worst case, you put a computer with wireless ourside and run a cable |
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| 21:21.21 | DrJoel | someone else's WiFi LOL |
| 21:22.10 | ArthurLiu | yeah, I bought 20m of USB cable and took a wifi dongle |
| 21:22.13 | ArthurLiu | dongle doesn't work |
| 21:22.21 | kblin | DrJoel: so? I don't see a difference between borrowing wireless on your laptop or borroing wireless on a pc that then bridges for your laptop because it's damn cold outside |
| 21:22.36 | kblin | ArthurLiu: ah, usb wifi and linux always is fun |
| 21:22.43 | gevaerts | ArthurLiu: 20m USB cables aren't really supported... |
| 21:22.51 | c_schmitz | 20m for USB is too long |
| 21:22.54 | c_schmitz | yeah |
| 21:22.58 | Nightrose | bounces about the first student submitting a patch and finishing his task |
| 21:23.04 | kblin | whoa |
| 21:23.05 | ArthurLiu | yeah well, even directly on my laptop it doesn't work |
| 21:23.23 | kblin | ArthurLiu: which chipset? |
| 21:24.12 | gevaerts | Nightrose: congratulations! |
| 21:24.18 | Nightrose | :) |
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| 21:24.40 | gevaerts | ArthurLiu: maybe add a task for students to propose a working solution ;) |
| 21:24.44 | Nightrose | looks at the 44 claimed tasks vs the 66 open ones and fears she'll have to poke a few more mentors |
| 21:25.34 | ArthurLiu | Netgear WG111v2, doesn't even light up of show up in syslog, so tough luck |
| 21:25.42 | kblin | gevaerts: he could simply get a warmer jacket ;) |
| 21:26.11 | kblin | gevaerts: usb-powered heated underwear |
| 21:26.16 | gevaerts | kblin: it's this typing with mittens that's annoying :) |
| 21:26.43 | kblin | get a speech recognition |
| 21:27.02 | gevaerts | is actually impressed with ArthurLiu's lack of typos given the conditions! |
| 21:27.43 | kblin | gevaerts: you probably just need a really big keyboard |
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| 21:28.58 | ArthurLiu | also of note, right now, I'm living on the french riviera, between Monaco and Cannes, freezing = 12C |
| 21:29.10 | gevaerts | kblin: but is his balcony big enough for that? |
| 21:29.21 | gevaerts | ArthurLiu: that's cheating! |
| 21:29.31 | kblin | chicken |
| 21:30.02 | kblin | wow, I had a student apply for and withdraw from a task within minutes.. |
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| 21:36.30 | SRabbelier | kai: curious |
| 21:37.33 | timotei | kblin: I bet he tested some of melange's behaviour :P |
| 21:38.24 | kblin | no, I guess he got annoyed because I didn't instantly accept, like those folks asking stuff on IRC and leaving the channel after 30s |
| 21:39.33 | timotei | lol |
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| 21:47.18 | ArthurLiu | kblin: yes, I have a few of these too |
| 21:47.52 | ArthurLiu | omg, some give me a truckload of ritalin please |
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| 22:11.36 | kblin | crap, just what I need right now... |
| 22:11.45 | kblin | scrambles |
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| 22:56.03 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Code-In 2010-11 is on! - Students can start claiming tasks at http://goo.gl/rl4Se - File Feature Requests & Bugs at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue - Read the FAQs: http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/faqs.html |
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| 23:33.47 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Code-In 2010-11 is on! - Students can start claiming tasks at http://goo.gl/rl4Se - File Feature Requests & Bugs at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue - Read the FAQs: http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/faqs.html |
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| 23:38.58 | kstar | carols: ping? [I'm the guy who spammed you with mail just now. If you find this more convenient, we could talk here] |
| 23:39.13 | carols | kstar: how can i help you? |
| 23:39.34 | kstar | carols: Oh well, I'm currently signed up as a mentor. But my brother wants to participate in GCI. |
| 23:40.13 | kstar | carols: He will not work with me. Is it possible for me to continue mentoring? |
| 23:40.25 | carols | kstar: is he only participating as a student? |
| 23:40.30 | kstar | carols: Or can I resign and help unofficially, while somebody else mentors my tasks, so that my brother can participate. |
| 23:40.35 | kstar | Yes, he's participating as a student. |
| 23:40.49 | carols | then sure, he's fine. he just can't mentor and be a student, he has to choose one |
| 23:41.03 | kstar | carols: Oh, is that okay? He's my family. |
| 23:41.18 | kblin | kstar: no problem there |
| 23:41.23 | carols | kstar: i talked to the admins about it and its fine. don't mentor him yourself though |
| 23:41.34 | kstar | Okay. That's very cool. Thank you. |
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| 23:41.58 | fyskij | hi |
| 23:42.10 | fyskij | there's an uploading form in melange? |
| 23:42.10 | kblin | kstar: always what the carols lady says :) |
| 23:42.31 | carols | aw thanks kblin |
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| 23:43.28 | kstar | kblin,carols: Thanks a ton. Ignore my mail. It's all the same. |
| 23:43.38 | carols | yw kstar |
| 23:44.09 | kstar | must send chocolates to carols, but he's in the land of Hersheys :) |
| 23:44.22 | carols | kstar: i can wait :-) |
| 23:44.26 | fyskij | there's an uploading form in melange? |
| 23:45.21 | kstar | carols: :) |
| 23:46.36 | dreimark | gn |
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