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00:00.11carolsserves tea, coffee and cookies
00:03.00SRabbeliercarols: do the cookies perchance include stroopwafels? ;)
00:03.25carolsSRabbelier: they don't. you don't by any chance have any in your neck of the woods, do you?
00:03.48SRabbeliercarols: I have something even better than that, "Speculaas stroopwafels"
00:04.00carolswow!
00:04.09SRabbeliercarols: I know right, pretty amazing
00:04.12carolsSRabbelier, you're bringing out all the stops for code-in :-)
00:04.22SRabbeliercarols: quite so
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00:12.50theboltmorning carols
00:12.57carolsmorning thebolt
00:13.00carolshow are you?
00:13.20theboltwell, its 8 in the morning and i am eating breakfast.. quite ok, considering
00:14.21spectieis there a way to send a message in melange ?
00:14.29thebolthow about yourself? GCI working out well so far?
00:14.31kblinoh, it's late
00:14.35spectieone of our students has forgotten to mark his work as done
00:14.35kblinhurries off
00:14.50spectie(or her, sorry)
00:14.52theboltkblin: haha, you always do that when I come online ;) good night
00:15.15kblinthebolt: you're my "you're up way too late" marker
00:15.34kblinthebolt: I'm going to be totally confused if you ever move back to sweden
00:16.02theboltkblin: hehe, don't expect that to happen anytime soon
00:16.19kblinyeah, not too worried
00:16.37carolsthebolt: yes, GCI is great. we already have students who have completed tasks :-)
00:16.38kblindozes off
00:16.40spectieyep :D
00:16.42spectieGCI is great
00:16.48spectiewe have four tasks done so far
00:16.50spectiei'm amazed
00:17.00carolsglad you think so, spectie :-) thanks for helping :-)
00:17.29spectieno problem :)
00:18.06spectiebtw, sorry i didn't make it to the mentor summit this year
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00:18.13spectieterrible problems with the passport
00:18.25carolsno problem - there will be more stuff to do, i'm sure :-)
00:18.43spectie:)
00:20.24theboltspectie: such details.. passports bah :P ;)
00:20.28spectie:D
00:20.36spectietry getting into the US without one :P
00:21.39thebolthehe
00:22.26thebolti rather not even try
00:25.00thebolthm, in fact, right now i cannot even leave this country ;)
00:25.09thebolt(without a lot of trouble..)
00:25.55spectie:)
00:26.08spectiehow come ?
00:26.40theboltwell, right now my local ID card is in  for an update as I moved recently.. and without it I don't have an re-entry permit
00:27.28spectieah
00:27.29spectie:/
00:28.18thebolt(i'm expatriated at  the moment..)
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03:16.59Dark_Shikariis there a limit on how many points an organization can give out?
03:25.16thebolt2^32-1 ? ;)
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03:53.21cwgordon7hey for http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/drupal/t129046371811 two students have ClaimRequest'ed it - if I approve it, it will go to the one that requested first, yes?
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04:09.07cwgordon7gsoc people this is screwy http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/drupal/t129046371811 it's not clear to me who has the task, the UI doesn't tell me or let me choose, and I expect the students will be similarly confused.
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13:04.43Nightrosei have a student who took on a medium task and it turned out to be difficult
13:04.54Nightrosehe put in the needed effort
13:05.07Nightroseis there a way to change the difficulty level so he gets more points?
13:05.42Dark_Shikariclose the task, create a new one, have him accept it
13:05.44Dark_Shikariright? =p
13:06.51Nightrosethat's what we'll do if needed - just wondered if there was another way
13:08.17MatthewWilkesNightrose: vote for the issue I just added
13:08.27NightroseMatthewWilkes: heh link?
13:08.28MatthewWilkesWe had a student take an unknown task before we realised
13:09.11MatthewWilkeserr, looking :S
13:09.20Dark_Shikariwe have a fun case of a task which is "difficult" until you get good at it
13:09.25Dark_Shikariand then it becomes relatively easy
13:09.32MatthewWilkesah, SRabbelier already closed it
13:09.34MatthewWilkeshttp://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1033
13:09.40Dark_Shikariand it's repeatable
13:10.12Nightrosethx MatthewWilkes
13:11.07MatthewWilkesisn't accepting WontFix ;)
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13:24.50jrabbituhoh. gci emails are getting put in my spam folder in gmail...
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13:30.36infinity0heh jrabbit
13:30.46infinity0i got a gsoc email in my spam folder in my gmail once
13:30.49infinity0was pretty jokes
13:30.59theboltMatthewWilkes: hi mr, how's it going?
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13:31.38jrabbitinfinity0: heh, just made a rule so
13:32.45sfb_MatthewWilkes: I've had this problem with times as wellas difficulty.
13:39.53MatthewWilkessfb_: You cna grant an extension
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13:43.44DrJoelAny other org having trouble with mentors not getting email notifications when tasks change?
13:47.15sfb_MatthewWilkes: Oh?
13:47.37sfb_DrJoel: Just two things - I had to click that silly star and I had to get the GCI emails out of my Gmail spam folder.
13:47.53NightroseDrJoel: yes
13:47.59Nightrosesame as sfb_
13:50.51DrJoelI am getting them on my gmail account.  I wonder if the company spam filter on the email server is killing Jennifer's
13:51.05DrJoelthinks mentors should have their star automatically set. :-D
13:53.03NightroseDrJoel: they do unless you as an admin set it
13:53.11Nightrosewhich i did for some
13:53.22Nightroseset it = add them as the mentor
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14:21.18DrJoelNightrose: I don't understand. I create the task with a mentor and the star isn't set for her
14:21.30NightroseDrJoel: yes
14:21.36Nightroseexactly
14:21.43Nightroseif she adds it herself it is set
14:22.01DrJoelOK.. That's what I have had the mentors do.  Shame it isn't automatic
14:22.10Nightroseyea
14:22.15Nightrosei've emailed mine as well about it
14:23.55DrJoelI instantiated about 120 tasks for us where we had things like create moodle questions for chapter X in user's guide.  or Do X on the wiki .. so there are a lot for them to click unfortunately
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16:22.46MatthewWilkes15. ELIMINATION: Any false information provided within the context of the Contest by any Participant concerning identity, mailing address, telephone number, email address, ownership of right or non-compliance with these Official Rules or the like may result in the immediate elimination of the Participant
16:23.03MatthewWilkeshehehe
16:23.17gevaertshopes that this is less strict than it may sound :)
16:23.46gevaertsOr is this what these streetview cars are actually meant for?
16:24.59Ivanovicgevaerts: jepp, streetview was only started to allow monitoring those google projects
16:25.54gevaertspromises to follow the rules!
16:26.14gevaertsI won't even complain about not having my shirt yet!
16:26.28Ivanovicwhich shirt?
16:26.34Ivanovichas no gsoc shirt so far either
16:26.44gevaertsThat one, yes
16:26.55Ivanovicbut so far no "all shirts should have been sent" message was on the ML
16:27.00Ivanovicso i assume that not all were sent yet
16:28.01gevaertsI tend to assume that as long as every week or so someone here received one and someone else didn't, things are as expected
16:28.36MatthewWilkesI've been struck from streetview
16:28.44MatthewWilkesmy neighbours pixeled me out without my permission
16:28.46MatthewWilkesSad times.
16:29.36gevaertsYou've been eliminated?
16:31.53MatthewWilkesVerpixelt, yes.
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16:36.22maker__I registered as a student yesterday. Why today seems like I was not registered?
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17:08.30maker__ArthurLiu, kai, scorche , ukai:  I have some problems with my student registration. Anyone of you can help me?
17:08.55gevaertsmaker__: they probably can't
17:08.56ArthurLiumaker__, have you tried #melange ?
17:09.26ArthurLiuI'm an admin, not a student, I already have a hard time wrapping my head around the admin side of melange..
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17:13.22maker__ArthurLiu:  yep, I've tried. But there's noone there.
17:13.26maker__*nobody
17:13.43ArthurLiuwell... wait?
17:16.31maker__ArthurLiu:  I should claim a task.
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17:31.05carolsserves tea, coffee and chocolate
17:34.07Ivanovictakes some tea and eats some chocolate
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17:34.43Ivanoviccarols: what is the current status of the gsoc tshirts, should they all have been sent by now? (since mine has not arrived yet, and someone else in here today was also lacking his)
17:35.23carolsIvanovic: we have a lot that have been returned to us, so we're sorting through those now. but yes, all of them have been shipped
17:36.20Ivanoviccarols: okay, that is some interesting information
17:36.50Ivanoviccarols: any way to find out if mine was returned, is still on its way or "no idea what"?
17:36.59carolsIvanovic: please email me
17:37.07Ivanovicsure
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17:38.13Ivanoviccarols: what information do you need?
17:38.19Ivanovicgsoc linkid?
17:38.32carolsIvanovic: just your name and country, please
17:40.11gevaertscarols: do you want everyone to start mailing now, or should we wait a bit longer?
17:41.04Ivanoviccarols: sent the mail
17:41.26carolsgevaerts: you can mail now, that's fine
17:41.29gevaertsok
17:42.26kblincarols: interesting
17:42.58carolskblin: life is so interesting, isnt it ?:-)
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17:44.14kblinI wonder if other projects are seeing a lot of churn with withdrawals
17:44.47carolskblin: its possible.
17:50.57gevaertscarols: sent. Thanks in advance for looking into this
17:51.07carolsgevaerts: of course
17:51.12carolsthank you for chocolate :-)
17:52.04gevaertscarols: glad you enjoyed it :)
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21:53.16c_schmitzso far I like GCIn much more than GSOC
21:53.57c_schmitzIt feels like the motivation among the participatns is much higher because of the short-term goals
21:55.06kblinc_schmitz: hm, dunno
21:55.20kblinI've seen many withdrawals, without any comment at all
21:55.26c_schmitzand some of the participants are really good considered their young age
21:55.30c_schmitznot here
21:55.47kblinperhaps you did a better job on selecting tasks
21:56.10kblinbut I've also seen some promising progress
21:56.26kblinso I'm not at all unhappy with GCI
21:56.45c_schmitzwell, the good thing is that the 'easy' tasks are taken first so the more difficult tasks will separate the 'better ones' from the rest soon
21:56.47c_schmitzyeah
21:57.17c_schmitzso there is a natural rise in difficulty dring the contest
21:58.24c_schmitzI alos like that you can still add tasks during the contest
21:58.40c_schmitza student came up with an idea and is now coding it as a GCI task
21:58.52c_schmitz(after he did his first task)
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21:59.16c_schmitzjust my 2 Cents ;)
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22:28.04jrabbitIs there a reason you can't see what tasks you have starred?
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