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| 01:02.10 | foocraft | hey all |
| 01:02.24 | foocraft | when will GSoC '11 be announced? :p |
| 01:03.32 | kstar | April, possibly. |
| 01:03.43 | ojwb | I'd imagine before that... |
| 01:04.13 | foocraft | hmm that's pretty close to the summer |
| 01:04.25 | ojwb | usually feb or march in recent years i think |
| 01:04.34 | foocraft | yeah now that sounds like a good timing |
| 01:04.52 | ojwb | foocraft: but you can get a head start now |
| 01:05.00 | foocraft | cuz if someone got a summer job and still doesn't know whether or not he's GSoC'ing, then that might lower his chances of GSoC'ing :p |
| 01:05.24 | foocraft | ojwb, I'm trying to break the AutoQA stratosphere and hopefully write some more tests for them |
| 01:05.43 | foocraft | also for GNU/Hurd I want to write tests for the things they've been constantly debugging |
| 01:05.47 | ojwb | http://www.google-melange.com./document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline |
| 01:05.52 | ojwb | so feb 8th this year |
| 01:05.53 | foocraft | (to provide some sanity :p) |
| 01:06.20 | foocraft | the awesome part about testing is that it feels like a certain class that I loved in school |
| 01:06.50 | foocraft | basically we had hugeass labs, but every lab was provided with a very good tester that *will* guide you to where you're screwing up |
| 01:07.37 | ojwb | would suggest starting to get involved now - then if you apply to those orgs they'll have a reasonable idea what you are capable of |
| 01:08.16 | foocraft | ^5s ojwb |
| 01:08.36 | Dark_Shikari | I am basically guaranteed to approve anyone who has done significant prior work for a SOC project (as long as everything else in their plan is sound). |
| 01:08.42 | Dark_Shikari | i.e. I would prioritize them over anyone else. |
| 01:08.49 | Dark_Shikari | I suspect this is true of most projects. |
| 01:15.00 | foocraft | what's your project, Dark_Shikari? |
| 01:22.10 | ojwb | foocraft: i think he's with x264 - it's something video related anyway |
| 01:23.57 | thebolt | ffmpeg would be the project i think |
| 01:24.31 | Dark_Shikari | x264 and ffmpeg |
| 01:24.50 | Dark_Shikari | I manage GCI/GSOC for x264 |
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| 08:24.42 | kai | I wonder if my university has a SIP infrastructure |
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| 09:22.21 | thebolt | kai: need to call someone? ;) |
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| 09:50.30 | kai | thebolt: yeah, and skype is having issues |
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| 10:02.21 | thebolt | yes, i know.. (skype is our main communiation-form in our company ;) |
| 10:05.20 | kai | so, I decided it was my fault for relying on a closed-source, only free-as-in-beer service for critical project communication |
| 10:05.56 | thebolt | :) |
| 10:06.00 | kai | but before I go and configure a voip server, I thought I'd check if our IT dept has done something useful for once |
| 10:06.12 | thebolt | we do have a private SIP service (with dial-in numbers in sweden & US) for meetings though |
| 10:06.25 | thebolt | but its hard to see if someone is online there.. or just leave a short chat-message ;) |
| 10:06.59 | kai | the samba team uses mumble for this, I've still got the server from our tests lying around somewhere on my machine |
| 10:07.51 | thebolt | well, my co-workers use skype & skype-in/out etc for other purposes.. also all of us use it from cell-phones as wella s from computers |
| 10:07.55 | thebolt | and in that sense it works well |
| 10:08.03 | thebolt | most of the time |
| 10:09.59 | kai | nods |
| 10:10.17 | kai | their network seems to be recovering as well |
| 10:11.29 | ojwb | news.bbc described skype as "The company which prides itself on providing relatively reliable service" |
| 10:11.48 | ojwb | which i felt was more an insult than a compliment |
| 10:14.22 | thebolt | hehe |
| 10:15.53 | kai | hehe |
| 10:17.17 | ojwb | i avoid skype myself, though it's hard to fully defend from a free software point of view since I mostly use the phone system instead and that doesn't come with source code... |
| 10:18.26 | thebolt | using traditional phone system for long meetings between sweden and east asia is a bit too expensive for our taste :P |
| 10:20.02 | thebolt | otoh, for those we do use open source stuff (an freeswitch based SIP-server) |
| 10:20.10 | ojwb | costs me less to phone my parents in the UK than when I lived 50 miles away from them |
| 10:20.14 | ojwb | (from NZ) |
| 10:20.43 | thebolt | but we're not open source/free software zealots.. we use it where it is convenient and best choice :) |
| 10:21.56 | kai | as I said, we've used mumble successfully in the samba team, even in larger meetings.. not sure how the bandwidth usage compares to skype |
| 10:22.19 | ojwb | probably very favourably if skype turns you into a supernode |
| 10:22.58 | kai | ojwb: hehe, I usually just turn on skype if I have an appointment for a call |
| 10:23.31 | kai | I think they do at least run some "how long is that node usually up" logic before they make a node a supernode |
| 10:23.54 | kai | heck, NETBIOS does that for master browsers, and NETBIOS is a pretty brain-dead protocol : |
| 10:23.58 | kai | :) |
| 10:24.00 | ojwb | and even if not, minimising the time you're on for reduces the exposure |
| 10:24.18 | kai | true |
| 10:26.11 | thebolt | i have it running 24/7.. (or well, as much as my computer is on) |
| 10:26.32 | thebolt | given the way we use it, anything else would make it useless :P |
| 10:42.39 | kai | ahrg, who comes up with a CLI like that? |
| 10:42.59 | kai | sometimes I hate academic software development... |
| 10:44.43 | kai | ah, and I broke the website |
| 10:44.46 | kai | crap |
| 10:45.02 | kai | this is going to be a long day |
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| 13:09.29 | thebolt | hi MatthewWilkes |
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| 13:18.59 | MatthewWilkes | heylo |
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| 13:25.00 | thebolt | how're you doing? |
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| 14:13.55 | kai | why is it that nobody in academia seems to get the MVC pattern? |
| 14:14.22 | kai | inline html code generation does _not_ make the processing code more readable |
| 14:17.01 | thebolt | hehe |
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| 14:24.20 | kai | ahrg |
| 14:24.31 | kai | that one's new as well |
| 14:25.00 | kai | res = os.system("xrandr | grep \* | cut -d' ' -f4") is not the way to get the screen resolution in linux.... |
| 14:25.08 | kai | why do we need that anyway? |
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| 14:29.54 | kai | I've got bitemarks in my mousepad now... |
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| 14:31.06 | kai | I guess testing software before sending it to people who're supposed to make it work is completely overrated |
| 14:35.17 | thebolt | why test stuff? isn't that what you have users for? :) |
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| 14:42.37 | kai | not if the first users you get are the reviewers who decide if your paper gets published |
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| 18:15.13 | Dark_Shikari | parades his student around the room http://www.google-melange.com/gci/program/show_ranking/google/gci2010 |
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| 21:10.58 | dberkholz | interesting page, i hadn't looked at it. |
| 21:11.32 | dberkholz | nice long tail on there. more than half the tasks were done by people who did 2 tasks or less |
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| 21:23.31 | kblin | yeah |
| 21:32.23 | dberkholz | http://dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/gsoc/gci/gci_tasks.png for anyone who wants to take a look |
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| 21:34.21 | gevaerts | Ah, graphs! Excellent! |
| 21:34.56 | jrabbit | all the easy tasks are gone, orgs need to put up some more tasks ;_; |
| 21:35.56 | dberkholz | sure makes it sound like a good time to step up to the next level and try a harder one |
| 21:37.08 | jrabbit | dberkholz: well its more like all there is is C# stuff and things for people who speak languages of less than 200 speakers :P |
| 21:41.31 | Dark_Shikari | or you could learn something new |
| 21:41.44 | Dark_Shikari | the top student on gci has gotten all his points doing nothing but tasks in a language he didn't know anything about when he started. |
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| 21:45.10 | Nightrose | is sure there are some kde tasks left that do not require speaking another language or programming ;-) |
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| 22:01.02 | kblin | I've got a python task still open :) |
| 22:02.12 | kblin | as to "orgs need to put up more tasks", that's not always trivial |
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| 22:38.41 | Nightrose | indeed |
| 22:38.58 | Nightrose | though my mentors have been fantastic once they got the hang of it |
| 22:39.43 | Nightrose | the start was quite a bumpy ride though |
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