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| 00:11.21 | thebolt | Morning |
| 00:14.07 | efes | Night |
| 00:15.19 | efes | Has anybody C/C++ implementation of mini-max heap ? |
| 00:19.06 | thebolt | probably somewhere, but not in any for suitable for sharing ;) (think I wrote one in preparation for NCPC/NWERC) |
| 00:19.17 | thebolt | tried googling it? :) |
| 00:20.13 | efes | yeap |
| 00:20.23 | efes | but there're only mix-heaps or max-heaps :/ |
| 00:22.58 | kapace__ | carols, If I submit a proof of enrolment, can I get a confirmation that it is ok? or when is it checked? |
| 00:23.21 | carols | kapace__: sure, i can send you a confirmation if you send me an email requesting it |
| 00:23.35 | kapace__ | carols, ok thanks |
| 00:23.44 | thebolt | efes: guess you have to implement it yourself then.. shouldn't be too bad though |
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| 07:56.16 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Code-In 2010-11 is on! - Students can start claiming tasks at http://goo.gl/rl4Se - File Feature Requests & Bugs at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue - Read the FAQs: http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/faqs.html |
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| 11:52.15 | cryptw | can anyone view this properly? http://google-code-in.googlecode.com/files/gci_consent_form_tw.pdf |
| 11:53.32 | ThomasWaldmann | not, it is broken for me (ubuntu linux) |
| 11:54.18 | ThomasWaldmann | btw, westcoast US is still sleeping |
| 11:56.45 | ThomasWaldmann | cryptw: you could also put it on the mailing list or email carols |
| 11:56.56 | cryptw | i've emailed the list |
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| 12:24.20 | aviraldg | Hi |
| 12:24.25 | aviraldg | Anyone there? |
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| 12:35.41 | andre__ | aviraldg: no, nobody, that's why 151 people are here |
| 12:36.30 | aviraldg | andre__: no, you ask because most of them just leave their chat clients open, even when they're not at their computer |
| 12:36.48 | aviraldg | anyway, the problem's solved now, I think |
| 12:37.02 | andre__ | aviraldg, so will it change anything if I'm here and cannot answer the question you have not asked yet, or if I'm not here? ;-) |
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| 12:37.14 | andre__ | if you have a question, ask the question, and be patient... that's IRC :) |
| 12:37.22 | aviraldg | okay |
| 12:37.35 | aviraldg | my mentor was having some problems viewing a task |
| 12:37.43 | aviraldg | that I'd submitted before the deadline |
| 12:38.27 | aviraldg | andre__: are you a mentor? |
| 12:39.03 | andre__ | yes, I was a mentor for a task |
| 12:40.02 | aviraldg | well |
| 12:40.16 | aviraldg | there was this task that I'd submitted work for before the deadline |
| 12:40.36 | aviraldg | and he can't open the direct link, because it gives him a 500 server error |
| 12:40.44 | aviraldg | he can't see "All tasks" either |
| 12:40.54 | aviraldg | because it says that the page is inactive |
| 12:41.05 | aviraldg | he can, however, open "List my tasks" |
| 12:41.15 | aviraldg | but that task isn't there on that list |
| 12:41.46 | aviraldg | andre__: ? |
| 12:42.03 | andre__ | URL....? |
| 12:42.10 | aviraldg | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/tux4kids/t129463056359 |
| 12:42.24 | andre__ | "There is no such published task. " |
| 12:42.29 | aviraldg | yep |
| 12:42.34 | aviraldg | I get the same message |
| 12:42.47 | aviraldg | for any and all tasks (even ones I've completed) |
| 12:43.20 | andre__ | that's something google should sort out. I think it should be still visible, but read-only (=no comments can be added or so) |
| 12:43.39 | andre__ | probably best to wait for somebody from google here, like carols |
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| 18:15.42 | aviraldg | carols: Hi |
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| 18:15.57 | carols | aviraldg: hi |
| 18:16.09 | aviraldg | My mentor was having some trouble accessing tasks... is there some technical problem in Melange? |
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| 18:16.41 | carols | aviraldg: SRabbelier can probably answer that |
| 18:16.55 | SRabbelier | aviraldg: can you be more specific? |
| 18:17.54 | aviraldg | well, initially he was trying to access it through "Show All Tasks", but that was disables |
| 18:17.59 | aviraldg | *disabled |
| 18:18.09 | SRabbelier | aviraldg: yeah, about that... carols, did you see Madhu's mail? |
| 18:18.32 | aviraldg | so he tried using "Show My Tasks", but this task (created by him) wasn't on that list |
| 18:18.37 | carols | SRabbelier: yes, i've also seen the other 50 emails in my inbox, i'm working through them. |
| 18:18.51 | aviraldg | finally, I emailed him a direct link, http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/tux4kids/t129463056359 |
| 18:19.13 | aviraldg | but he said that it gives him a 500 server error, no matter how many times he refreshes the page |
| 18:19.15 | SRabbelier | carols: okay :), that one would solve the "Show My Tasks" page |
| 18:19.23 | SRabbelier | **Show All Tasks |
| 18:19.38 | carols | SRabbelier: hopefully this is something that can wait another hour or two? |
| 18:19.49 | SRabbelier | aviraldg: that link gives him a 500 server error? you sure? not "There is no such published task"? |
| 18:20.41 | aviraldg | it gives me a "There is no such published task" (in fact, all tasks do, even ones I've completed), but it gives him a 500 |
| 18:20.51 | SRabbelier | carols: basically madhu figured out that if we extend the "end of program" in Melange it will allow useful things, while not allowing any things we don't want |
| 18:21.17 | aviraldg | SRabbelier: but isn't he supposed to be able to view it now? |
| 18:21.50 | carols | SRabbelier: great, make it so. |
| 18:22.38 | skfin | Erm... Mail says that I need student id or something... I dont have any :S |
| 18:23.19 | carols | skfin: a student ID is but one of three options you have to prove your enrollment status |
| 18:23.46 | aviraldg | SRabbelier: is that supposed to happen for him too? |
| 18:24.34 | SRabbelier | aviraldg: it's happening because his task is marked as invalid (he worked on it after the deadline), we're looking into it |
| 18:25.02 | aviraldg | SRabbelier: you're correct |
| 18:25.13 | aviraldg | I did submit some work for that task after the deadline |
| 18:25.16 | skfin | carols: Is official, printed school timetable with dates and name ok? |
| 18:25.20 | SRabbelier | aviraldg: the "List all tasks" page should be available now |
| 18:25.26 | aviraldg | but I had also made a submission before the deadline |
| 18:26.08 | carols | skfin: does it prove *your* enrollment? does it have your name associated with it and the date of your enrollment listed? |
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| 18:26.49 | SRabbelier | aviraldg: in that case you'll have to ask your mentor to request your task be special-cased |
| 18:26.51 | aviraldg | SRabbelier: I submitted once before the deadline and twice after it to check if Melange was "locked". However, all 3 times, it was exactly the same patch (no differences). Can he still review it? |
| 18:27.07 | SRabbelier | aviraldg: after we fix this bug, yes |
| 18:27.07 | skfin | Well, it's says its 3rd quater, starting 10th of February, and it has my name on it |
| 18:27.29 | aviraldg | SRabbelier: thanks, will tell him |
| 18:27.50 | skfin | But I dont know does it prove anything.... No signatures or something |
| 18:28.51 | carols | skfin: is it on your school's letterhead? |
| 18:28.55 | skfin | I also have my old timetable, which has times and my name on it too |
| 18:29.35 | skfin | carols: My school doesnt have any official letterheads, but it has my school name on it and something |
| 18:30.32 | skfin | I just dont know what other I could have... |
| 18:31.35 | mayanks43 | Hi carols, Can I get an idea as to when gsoc 2011 can be announced? |
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| 18:32.26 | summatusmentis | mayanks43: there's no guarantee it will be announced, until it is |
| 18:33.35 | carols | mayanks43: pay attention to the blog, it will be announced when/if we decide to do it :-) |
| 18:33.47 | mayanks43 | k thnx |
| 18:33.56 | mayanks43 | oops ok thank you |
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| 18:38.24 | skfin | carols: I can scan the timetable for you and could you check if it's ok? |
| 18:38.46 | carols | skfin: sure, please email me |
| 18:38.57 | skfin | It shows my courses, rooms, and so on |
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| 18:41.19 | skfin | I cant find my scanner, its somewhere, I take a picture with camera and see is it clear |
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| 18:59.49 | skfin | carols: I couldn't get a high-quality image, but I guess you can read things from this too. I will send you a better quality(scanned) file if this is ok |
| 19:00.16 | carols | skfin: that's fine |
| 19:05.27 | jordan___ | is away: out now away |
| 19:05.58 | skfin | Okay, sent |
| 19:06.18 | skfin | If it's not enough, I will hunt for something... |
| 19:06.27 | skfin | Like ask for any paper tomorrow |
| 19:08.28 | skfin | Anyway, I gtg |
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| 19:22.08 | Nightrose | carols: kde's tasks have all been reviewed before the deadline since i assumed review had to be done by then as well - so we should be all good there |
| 19:22.20 | Nightrose | however i don't know if the total points of the students matches |
| 19:22.22 | carols | Nightrose: awesome, thanks for letting me know |
| 19:22.33 | carols | Nightrose: there'll be a review in melange of the points as well |
| 19:22.37 | Nightrose | ok great |
| 19:22.38 | Nightrose | thx |
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| 19:45.05 | Ivanovic | carols: just got your mail |
| 19:45.15 | carols | Ivanovic: great |
| 19:45.26 | Ivanovic | carols: one task is still under "needs more work" (though the mentor wrote in a comment that it was okay regaridng the points) |
| 19:45.35 | carols | Ivanovic: ok |
| 19:45.36 | Ivanovic | and there is no way for me to change the current status |
| 19:45.49 | Ivanovic | cf http://socghop.appspot.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/wesnoth/t129278582182 |
| 19:46.35 | carols | Ivanovic: if you're having trouble with melange, please email melange-soc-dev@googlegroups.com so they can fix it |
| 19:46.37 | Ivanovic | is it okay if i copy the text of the mail into a pastebin and leave it as message in the (publicitly logged) #wesnoth-dev chan? |
| 19:47.05 | Ivanovic | (as message for the other mentors) |
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| 19:47.29 | carols | Ivanovic: sure |
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| 19:52.44 | Ivanovic | carols: okay, sent a mail |
| 19:52.54 | carols | Ivanovic: great |
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| 20:21.00 | GautamGupta | Is arol here? |
| 20:21.07 | GautamGupta | Carol* |
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| 20:33.45 | Atlantic777 | When we can expect official gsoc2011 page at google? |
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| 20:34.12 | Dark_Shikari | if it's announced, probably april |
| 20:35.01 | Atlantic777 | I can't find any announcments... :/ |
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| 20:35.11 | Dark_Shikari | I said, april |
| 20:35.14 | Dark_Shikari | it isn't april yet |
| 20:35.51 | Ivanovic | Atlantic777: don't expect any announcement before mid febuary |
| 20:36.19 | Atlantic777 | Ah, ok, I thought there should be some info now, too. :) Thanks... |
| 20:37.25 | Ivanovic | mid febuary is the usual time for the first announcment *if* there will be a gsoc or not |
| 20:38.40 | Atlantic777 | Ivanovic: sorry for bothering but may I ask you something on pvt? |
| 20:39.00 | Ivanovic | why not ask in here? |
| 20:39.19 | Ivanovic | chances are that if i don't know the answer (which is possible and even likely) that someone else in here might know it |
| 20:39.32 | Ivanovic | especially if program related, since i am just a humble org admin |
| 20:39.42 | Atlantic777 | Because it's of topic. :D And you have to know the answer. :D |
| 20:39.54 | Atlantic777 | off* |
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| 20:53.33 | carols | anyone from plone here? |
| 20:53.56 | Ivanovic | carols: those tasks listed in "closed" should be fine, right? |
| 20:54.03 | carols | Ivanovic: yes |
| 20:54.05 | Ivanovic | (meaning the students got their points for those) |
| 20:54.32 | carols | Ivanovic: yes |
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| 21:03.42 | danielmarth | hi |
| 21:03.49 | danielmarth | can i upload the documents for GCI in my native language? |
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| 21:14.39 | Nightrose | carols: i just had a look at my list of closed tasks in melange and it shows 328 - i am pretty sure we've had 338 and very sure it's been over 333 |
| 21:14.57 | Nightrose | and at least one task from danielmarth is missing there that is marked as closed correctly |
| 21:15.10 | carols | Nightrose: you will need to speak to SRabbelier and the melange developers, please |
| 21:15.15 | Nightrose | ok |
| 21:15.23 | ThomasWaldmann | how do i mark something invalid? |
| 21:15.31 | Nightrose | SRabbelier: ^ this is for kde - can you look into it? |
| 21:15.45 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: invalid tasks will have disappeared |
| 21:15.50 | ThomasWaldmann | (the menu shows only "comment") |
| 21:16.10 | Nightrose | SRabbelier: i've taken care of all our tasks before the deadline so there shouldn't be any invalids |
| 21:16.21 | Nightrose | SRabbelier: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/kde/t129464352775 |
| 21:16.27 | Nightrose | that one is missing from my list |
| 21:16.36 | Nightrose | and it's been closed shortly before the deadline |
| 21:17.02 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: I'm investigating some tasks that were marked as invalid that shouldn't have been |
| 21:17.03 | SRabbelier | one sec |
| 21:17.09 | Nightrose | thx :) |
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| 21:18.41 | Nightrose | danielmarth: are your other tasks ok? |
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| 21:19.18 | danielmarth | Nightrose: i'm not sure, can i do anything else as counting points? |
| 21:19.40 | Nightrose | i'm not sure tbh |
| 21:19.47 | Nightrose | search email? |
| 21:19.56 | Atlantic777 | za /boot :P |
| 21:20.09 | Atlantic777 | sorry, wrong window |
| 21:21.00 | danielmarth | Nightrose: i have only 35 tasks in my list, the ranking shows 38 |
| 21:21.18 | Nightrose | ok so you're missing more than that one |
| 21:22.10 | danielmarth | yes, i claimed one after the competition ended, that one was marked invalid, but it wasn't complete also. so maybe there's a bug that too many tasks are marked invalid |
| 21:22.45 | danielmarth | Nightrose: hm... i think only tasks from the 10th are missing |
| 21:23.21 | danielmarth | one amarok wiki task, the amarok testing task and a marble task |
| 21:23.35 | Nightrose | ok do you have links of them? |
| 21:23.45 | danielmarth | just a sec |
| 21:24.43 | danielmarth | marble: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/kde/t129462015384 |
| 21:24.50 | danielmarth | i can access that one, but it's not in my list |
| 21:25.22 | danielmarth | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/kde/t129461859642 |
| 21:25.27 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: try now |
| 21:25.31 | danielmarth | this is the amarok wiki task, same for this one |
| 21:25.36 | Nightrose | SRabbelier: ok sec |
| 21:25.58 | danielmarth | and i can also access the other amarok task now |
| 21:26.36 | danielmarth | they are in the list now :) |
| 21:26.44 | Nightrose | SRabbelier: hero! |
| 21:26.53 | Nightrose | 338 tasks now - i think that's correct |
| 21:26.56 | danielmarth | Nightrose: SRabbelier: thanks :) |
| 21:27.01 | SRabbelier | np |
| 21:29.21 | danielmarth | carols: can i upload my prove of enrollment and document from my parents in german? |
| 21:29.34 | carols | danielmarth: yes, that's fine |
| 21:29.56 | danielmarth | carols: ok. i'm not sure if my prove of enrollment is enough |
| 21:30.35 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> Google Code-In 2010-11 is over! Read the blog post for a wrapup: http://goo.gl/ZZ9Ar |
| 21:30.39 | danielmarth | carols: it says that i (my full name and birthdate is mentioned) attended the school in the school year 2010/2011, is this enough? |
| 21:30.54 | carols | danielmarth: yes, that's the correct set of information. |
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| 21:31.12 | danielmarth | carols: ok, will i receive any notification if there are problems with that? |
| 21:31.21 | danielmarth | i just want to make sure :) |
| 21:31.28 | carols | danielmarth: yes. if its unacceptable you will be notified. |
| 21:31.46 | danielmarth | carols: ok, thank you for your help ;) |
| 21:31.50 | carols | yw |
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| 21:49.48 | cryptw | carols: could you upload the chinese/taiwanese consent form in another format? i can't get the pdf to display properly in anything |
| 21:50.05 | carols | cryptw: what format? |
| 21:50.20 | cryptw | maybe .txt? |
| 21:57.35 | carols | cryptw: sure, assuming that you don't modify the document in any way |
| 21:57.55 | cryptw | of course |
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| 22:15.32 | ThomasWaldmann | carols: i don't think that .txt can represent a legal document |
| 22:15.58 | carols | ThomasWaldmann: the text has been reviewed by our lawyers, as long as its not modified the text is still legal. |
| 22:16.04 | ThomasWaldmann | it should be rather a pdf or tiff or fax or whatever (I assume that you need something signed) |
| 22:16.28 | gevaerts | ThomasWaldmann: it's not much harder to edit a pdf file than to edit a text file if that's what you're worried about |
| 22:16.55 | ThomasWaldmann | gevaerts: how do you sign on a .txt? :) |
| 22:16.59 | ThomasWaldmann | gpg? :D |
| 22:17.11 | schumaml | for example |
| 22:17.14 | cryptw | reviewed by lawyers? and they let a typo like this pass? http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/980/gciformproblem.png |
| 22:17.14 | gevaerts | ThomasWaldmann: that's more reliable than a scanned signature anyway :) |
| 22:17.24 | gevaerts | decides that it's time for tea and cookies now |
| 22:17.45 | ThomasWaldmann | gpg signature would be great of course, but i guess most parents or schools can't do that |
| 22:18.00 | cryptw | then you need to somehow verify the gpg signature |
| 22:18.07 | cryptw | which would involve printing it out |
| 22:18.11 | cryptw | and physically signing and scanning it :D |
| 22:18.35 | cryptw | oh on that note, my scanner's borked |
| 22:18.35 | ThomasWaldmann | and if you just get a txt file that tells "I owe you 100 USD. Signed: thomas waldmann", how much is that worth? |
| 22:18.50 | cryptw | so hopefully a high res photo is sufficient |
| 22:19.28 | cryptw | ThomasWaldmann: maybe if it had ascii art of your signature :p |
| 22:22.19 | ThomasWaldmann | cryptw: or unicode-art, even more powerful :D |
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