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| 06:18.15 | Lutoma | Oh wow |
| 06:18.25 | Lutoma | All those idlers :p |
| 06:18.49 | Lutoma | Maybe google shoud provide everyone with free irc bouncers :p |
| 06:20.34 | Dark_Shikari | Aren't those called moderators? |
| 06:20.38 | Dark_Shikari | *shot* |
| 06:27.48 | zooko | idles |
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| 07:02.12 | kblin | Lutoma: and what would be changed by that? |
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| 07:02.41 | Lutoma | Most likely nothing, maybe world domination |
| 07:03.04 | kblin | !forget faq |
| 07:03.05 | socinfo` | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:03.12 | kblin | !learn faq as http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 07:03.12 | socinfo` | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:03.21 | kblin | !forget timeline |
| 07:03.21 | socinfo` | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:03.30 | kblin | !learn timeline as http://goo.gl/0lYPz |
| 07:03.31 | socinfo` | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:04.43 | kblin | hmm |
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| 08:10.31 | void_ | !faq |
| 08:10.31 | socinfo | void_: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
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| 09:29.07 | MatthewWilkes | I finally got T-Mobile to cancel my contract last night after they fucked me around, called debt collectors for non-existant debts, etc |
| 09:29.11 | MatthewWilkes | just got an email: |
| 09:29.12 | MatthewWilkes | From: togetherrewards@t-mobile.co.uk |
| 09:29.12 | MatthewWilkes | Subject: Loyalty Terminated Notification |
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| 09:50.24 | kai | MatthewWilkes: we are t-mobile of borg, resistance is futile, you will be spammed? :) |
| 10:00.01 | kai | meh, back to square 1 |
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| 10:01.21 | kai | now I remember why I don't like database programming |
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| 10:29.43 | ule | I think everyone is sleeping because the fuse. Am I right? |
| 10:30.17 | aghisla | wakes up and checks who's talking in the middle of the night |
| 10:30.36 | ule | haha |
| 10:31.07 | aghisla | it's almost midday here :) |
| 10:31.26 | ule | aghisla, It's 8:30 a.m here in Brazil... and there? What time is it? |
| 10:31.43 | aghisla | italy, 11.31 |
| 10:32.01 | ule | oh.. nice time |
| 10:33.16 | ule | aghisla, so.. I was listen a podcast in my way of my work.. And a woman was interview about google summer code.. and she said to come to this channel... |
| 10:34.43 | ule | sorry my english mistakes |
| 10:34.47 | ule | ** I was listening a podcast in my way of my work.. And a woman was interviewed about google summer code.. and she said to come to this channel... |
| 10:35.11 | aghisla | well this channel is for quick questions and a bit of chatting :) for info about how the program works there is the website http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 10:35.23 | aghisla | no problems for english! |
| 10:35.43 | aghisla | on the site there are all info about how to subscribe and how it wors |
| 10:35.44 | ule | Thanks so much |
| 10:35.45 | aghisla | works |
| 10:36.19 | aghisla | best of luck for your application! :) |
| 10:36.33 | ule | aghisla, what is your project? Do you already have one? |
| 10:36.55 | aghisla | i'll be coadmin for OSGeo this year, and been a student twice before |
| 10:37.45 | aghisla | you can look at the list of organisations that participated last years, to find one to apply with |
| 10:38.05 | aghisla | several famous open source projects participate to soc |
| 10:38.13 | aghisla | kde, gnome, debian, ecc.. |
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| 11:08.47 | Junkbot | hi all |
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| 11:18.44 | Waren | yo |
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| 15:25.06 | fyskij | hi |
| 15:28.49 | shadeslayer | fyskij: howdy |
| 15:29.45 | fyskij | hi shadeslayer |
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| 15:34.00 | fyskij | I'm an Italian student who attends a high school (not college), but on the wikipedia page of my country is not specified (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_education_accreditation), and then I do not know if my school is accredited. |
| 15:34.18 | fyskij | ops |
| 15:34.22 | fyskij | grammar error |
| 15:34.26 | fyskij | sorry |
| 15:36.51 | fyskij | how do I know if my school is accredited? |
| 15:37.26 | thiago | if you're a student and you're 18 years old or older, then it should be ok |
| 15:37.35 | aghisla | fyskij: which high school is it? |
| 15:37.58 | fyskij | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liceo_classico |
| 15:38.10 | aghisla | then yes |
| 15:38.34 | aghisla | it is accredited |
| 15:38.47 | fyskij | :D |
| 15:39.06 | Nightrose | see the thread on the gsoc list though where it says that high-school is not accepted |
| 15:40.00 | aghisla | is confused |
| 15:40.17 | Nightrose | yes it is confusing again and again each year :( |
| 15:40.28 | shadeslayer | Nightrose: so .... did you find any worthy replacement? :D |
| 15:40.29 | Nightrose | somehow it has to be possible to make this more obvious |
| 15:40.45 | Nightrose | shadeslayer: replacement no - and i wasn't looking for one ;-) |
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| 15:40.51 | Nightrose | but i did find 2 people to help me |
| 15:40.53 | Nightrose | they're great |
| 15:41.06 | shadeslayer | Nightrose: really? oh ... ok ... i read the blog the wrong way then :P |
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| 16:59.21 | volton | Hi, is it also possible to work on a Master's thesis in an open source project as part of the Summer of Code? For example in the Android project? |
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| 17:00.51 | Genghiz | nope |
| 17:02.31 | Genghiz | ohi shadeslayer |
| 17:02.37 | shadeslayer | lul |
| 17:02.38 | shadeslayer | :P |
| 17:03.01 | Genghiz | there used to be a #gsoc-india here ? |
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| 17:08.48 | nirmalfdo | Where can I find GSoC-2010 University wise statistics? |
| 17:12.48 | Genghiz | nirmalfdo ? |
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| 17:14.22 | nirmalfdo | Genghiz, Didn't get you? :O |
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| 17:14.47 | Genghiz | university wise statistics ? |
| 17:14.53 | Genghiz | What are you ? Indian ? |
| 17:15.32 | nirmalfdo | no, Sri Lankan |
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| 17:18.09 | Genghiz | so you are like half Indian ? |
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| 17:18.47 | nirmalfdo | Genghiz, no way, why?? :O |
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| 17:20.22 | volton | So is it true that the work you do for GSOC can not be part of any final thesis? |
| 17:20.28 | Genghiz | nirmalfdo, what do you MEAN by univ wise statistics ? |
| 17:20.35 | Genghiz | volton, totally. |
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| 17:21.25 | volton | Genghiz: That kind of answer kind of makes me wonder if you're just trolling |
| 17:24.21 | nirmalfdo | Genghiz, I meant something like this http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/09/tasty-new-google-summer-of-code-stats.html |
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| 18:00.13 | ArthurLiu | oh, google-melange.com is not pure app engine :D |
| 18:02.01 | ArthurLiu | google-melange.com resolves to google servers that do redirection to www.google-melange.com, solving the naked domain issue |
| 18:03.40 | ArthurLiu | since when is url forwarding a public app engine feature ? |
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| 18:18.07 | Akash | can I take part in GSOC if I am doing an internship simultaneously? |
| 18:18.29 | Akash | assuming that time is not an issue |
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| 18:19.51 | nirmalfdo | Akash, I think you can! |
| 18:21.35 | dotnick | Akash, you probably could but I dont think your mentors would like that |
| 18:22.00 | Akash | I'll avoid it then.. |
| 18:22.01 | Akash | Thx |
| 18:22.18 | Ivanovic | Akash: gsoc is a full time job |
| 18:22.27 | Ivanovic | it is unlikely that you will be able to handle both in parallel |
| 18:22.57 | dotnick | Akash, don't just take my word for it though, you should really discuss it with the organization |
| 18:23.43 | Akash | K.. whill clarify it with them before taking a decision |
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| 19:52.36 | joxer | hi, i'm from italy and i'm compiling the form for personal informations. In italy i'm at the 5th grade in high school, but on the form should i follow the american high schools grades? or should i use my grades? thanks. |
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| 20:05.05 | thiago_home | I don't think high schools are accepted |
| 20:05.08 | thiago_home | are you 18? |
| 20:05.13 | joxer | thiago yes |
| 20:05.16 | joxer | * thiago_home |
| 20:05.20 | joxer | i'm at lat year |
| 20:05.22 | joxer | oh wait. |
| 20:05.26 | joxer | it's summer of code ._. |
| 20:05.54 | joxer | ops. |
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| 20:06.12 | joxer | thiago_home btw do you know something? |
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| 20:11.45 | thiago_home | no |
| 20:14.52 | joxer | ok |
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| 20:20.02 | Nightrose | joxer: gci questions are ok here as well |
| 20:20.14 | Nightrose | best ask your question on the mailing list though or email carol directly |
| 20:20.31 | Nightrose | that seems like something someone from the team at google needs to answer |
| 20:20.31 | joxer | carol is not answering due work |
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| 20:20.45 | Nightrose | she's at a conference yes |
| 20:21.16 | vsrinivas | hi folks |
| 20:21.36 | vsrinivas | are there any gsoc mentor veterans around? |
| 20:21.45 | Nightrose | yes |
| 20:23.03 | vsrinivas | so -- i was a student last year (for Plan 9) and was interested in being a mentor type this year; was wondering what is involved, any advice, .... |
| 20:23.42 | Nightrose | there is an excellent book to help you there |
| 20:23.43 | Nightrose | one sec |
| 20:24.00 | vsrinivas | book, huh ? :D |
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| 20:25.00 | Nightrose | http://www.booki.cc/gsoc-mentoring/ |
| 20:25.43 | Nightrose | it was written by previous mentors and should contain the most important things |
| 20:25.50 | vsrinivas | okay, thanks! |
| 20:26.50 | dotnick | Nightrose, any books for prospective students? :) |
| 20:27.00 | Nightrose | dotnick: lol - i was just about to post the link |
| 20:27.01 | Nightrose | http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/ |
| 20:27.07 | shadeslayer | haha :D |
| 20:27.15 | shadeslayer | and i thought the FAQ was enough :P |
| 20:27.17 | dotnick | Nightrose, wow i was kidding, but thanks :D |
| 20:27.24 | Nightrose | np |
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| 20:29.40 | dotnick | Is it true that you can participate in GSoC with *that* limited experience? I mean I'm confident about my skills and I still find the various project ideas a bit... overwhelming. |
| 20:30.14 | Dark_Shikari | "limited experience"? I mean, you should probably have the equivalent of a first-year CS class under your belt... |
| 20:30.20 | Dark_Shikari | but... what "experience" do you need? |
| 20:30.37 | Dark_Shikari | This isn't like getting a job, where you're expected to have experience at a job so you can get a job to get experience so you can have experience to get a job. |
| 20:30.47 | Nightrose | dotnick: it varies a lot between orgs |
| 20:30.53 | Nightrose | and also inside orgs sometimes |
| 20:31.11 | dotnick | Nightrose, Yea I guess it does |
| 20:31.33 | shadeslayer | Nightrose: what does KDE usually expect? :( |
| 20:31.35 | shadeslayer | er, |
| 20:31.41 | shadeslayer | s/:(/:) |
| 20:31.57 | Dark_Shikari | s/\(/\)/ |
| 20:32.19 | shadeslayer | :p |
| 20:32.31 | Nightrose | shadeslayer: depends on what the mentor is willing to accept - in the end it is his/her call - but in general our projects are not for absolute beginners |
| 20:32.50 | dotnick | Dark_Shikari, Maybe participation in another open source project in the past? IMO it's one thing creating a small application in a first year CS class, and another being part of a large Open Source project. |
| 20:32.53 | shadeslayer | Ah Okay ... |
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| 20:33.36 | Dark_Shikari | dotnick: We've had... one |
| 20:33.41 | Dark_Shikari | out of 10 students across three years |
| 20:33.53 | Dark_Shikari | Yes it is another thing -- that's why you're in GSOC. |
| 20:34.07 | dotnick | True. |
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| 22:12.52 | sam_m | Hey, I am a contributor to a relatively small project called ExpoSong (http://code.google.com/p/exposong). ExpoSong has a quite small codebase and is written in Python/GTK which makes it easy for new contributors to get started. How are the chances that we would accepted if we applied as a mentor organisation? |
| 22:12.57 | kblin | evening folks |
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| 22:14.51 | summatusmentis | sam_m: "what are the chances" is a hard question |
| 22:14.56 | kblin | sam_m: I'd say 0 <= p <= 1 |
| 22:15.57 | sam_m | kblin, that means we just apply and see? |
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| 22:16.16 | kblin | sam_m: your chances depend on many factors |
| 22:16.47 | kblin | sam_m: If I were you. I'd start with getting a list of well-defined project ideas together |
| 22:17.14 | carols | sam_m: you should apply. we'd like to encourage small/new project to apply to get some new blood into our community |
| 22:17.19 | kblin | even if you're not accepted into GSoC, this list tends to be a great ressource of ideas for beginners |
| 22:17.29 | carols | sam_m: but asking what the chances are is a hard question :-) |
| 22:17.44 | kblin | and people in here will gladly help you to refine the list of ideas |
| 22:17.54 | sam_m | carols, yeah i read the page about the selection criteria, and most of them we don't meet |
| 22:18.11 | carols | sam_m: what's the harm in applying anyway? |
| 22:19.15 | sam_m | carols, you are right, it's no harm. |
| 22:19.16 | kblin | what carols said. I find that the process of preparing for GSoC helps to identify things that you can improve to lower the bar of entry to your project |
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| 22:20.28 | sam_m | Ok, we'll start creating a list of ideas. We already have some things in mind |
| 22:22.05 | sam_m | thanks, folks |
| 22:22.13 | sam_m | so far... |
| 22:22.37 | kblin | feel free to drop by with the list for feedback |
| 22:22.51 | kblin | some of us have been doing this for quite a while |
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| 22:35.02 | Guest44314 | when google announce the projects for soc 2011 |
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| 22:36.22 | gevaerts | Guest44314: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/timeline should answer that |
| 22:37.15 | carols | !timeline |
| 22:37.15 | socinfo | carols: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz |
| 22:37.19 | carols | !faqs |
| 22:37.20 | socinfo | carols: Error: "faqs" is not a valid command. |
| 22:37.26 | carols | !faq |
| 22:37.27 | socinfo | carols: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 22:37.38 | carols | !next |
| 22:37.39 | socinfo | carols: "next" is February 14, 2011: Open source projects announce Grand Prize Winners |
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