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| 01:19.58 | geekzus | Hi I'm new here (to gsoc and to irc) |
| 01:21.07 | geekzus | just wondering if we can start looking somehow to the projects being added to gsoc |
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| 01:40.53 | geekzus | anyone? |
| 01:48.05 | karni | geekzus: hi |
| 01:48.20 | karni | geekzus: right. the organisations haven't even started applying yet |
| 01:48.47 | karni | geekzus: just google gsoc 2010 and perhaps have a look on the list of previous years projects |
| 01:49.07 | ojwb | many orgs will already have lists for this year |
| 01:49.17 | ojwb | though you can't know for sure which orgs will be accepted |
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| 01:50.17 | geekzus | ok |
| 01:50.36 | geekzus | so how can I start checking? |
| 01:50.57 | geekzus | by the way, thank you ojwb |
| 01:51.18 | ojwb | google for it |
| 01:51.25 | ojwb | gsoc 2011 project ideas |
| 01:51.28 | ojwb | things like that |
| 01:51.39 | geekzus | ok I'll do that |
| 01:52.47 | geekzus | yes, there seems to be some that can be already checked |
| 01:53.00 | geekzus | thank you that was helpful |
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| 05:24.25 | jseabold | Anyone have contact info to get a 1099 resent from gsoc 2010? |
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| 05:35.24 | ojwb | jseabold: carols is probably the best person to contact |
| 05:44.28 | jseabold | ojwb: Thanks. Thought so too. She's out of the office for a few weeks apparently. |
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| 05:45.17 | ojwb | she's been on here semi-regularly, so I bet she's checking email too |
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| 09:00.33 | veleno | hello everyone. Can a University apply as mentor ? |
| 09:01.00 | veleno | or even, a CS department within a public university, to be more precise. |
| 09:02.22 | thebolt | not as mentor, but as mentoring organisation, sure, that have been the case many times before (given you have open source projects going on then) |
| 09:10.00 | veleno | yes, a mentoring organisation. good, we'll try to apply then. |
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| 09:13.24 | thebolt | veleno: if you check previous years you will see at least one or two unis, shouldn't be a problem in itself |
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| 09:40.16 | kai | meh |
| 09:41.17 | thebolt | hi kai |
| 09:43.52 | thebolt | how's it going? |
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| 09:57.49 | kai | thebolt: still having fun with making my software work on windows |
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| 09:58.50 | thebolt | kai: ah :) you don't write it platform independently from the start? ;) |
| 09:58.50 | Umair | Hi GSOC Team |
| 09:59.50 | Umair | I am passionate to work in Google Summer of Code 2011 program. |
| 10:00.11 | kai | thebolt: well, sure, in theory |
| 10:00.20 | kai | thebolt: unfortunately windows doesn't stick to the specs |
| 10:01.00 | kai | thebolt: and you only find out about that stuff if you actually try it |
| 10:01.16 | thebolt | kai: ;) |
| 10:01.20 | kai | like I start off external tools using subprocess.call() |
| 10:01.39 | kai | on linux, if everything I start has +x set, it just works |
| 10:02.05 | kai | on windows, I need to differentiate between starting scripts and starting binaries |
| 10:02.13 | thebolt | oh, sure? |
| 10:04.01 | Umair | any one can guide me? |
| 10:04.18 | kai | plus, there's no package management on windows, so I can't just tell people "just apt-get install these five dependencies" |
| 10:04.37 | kai | so I need to fiddle with paths alot |
| 10:04.50 | Umair | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:05.26 | kai | wait, you're going for a phd and you have time for gsoc? |
| 10:05.32 | ojwb | Umair: you probably want to start by reading the faq |
| 10:05.38 | ojwb | see /topic for link |
| 10:05.45 | kai | or... |
| 10:05.46 | kai | !faq |
| 10:05.47 | socinfo | kai: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 10:05.51 | kai | :) |
| 10:06.23 | Umair | ok socinfo |
| 10:06.27 | Umair | ya read it |
| 10:06.45 | kai | thebolt: all in all running script collections on windows seems to be a bit messy |
| 10:07.02 | Umair | but i am unable to fine the GSOC 2011 projects list |
| 10:07.11 | thebolt | kai: ah.. well, i am no big windows coder anymore |
| 10:07.29 | thebolt | Umair: well, the projects have not applied yet, even less been selected |
| 10:07.29 | kai | Umair: that'd be because there's no such list yet |
| 10:07.33 | kai | !imeline |
| 10:07.33 | socinfo | kai: Error: "imeline" is not a valid command. |
| 10:07.36 | kai | !timeline |
| 10:07.36 | socinfo | kai: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz |
| 10:07.39 | kai | durn :) |
| 10:08.05 | Umair | ok |
| 10:09.08 | ojwb | many orgs will have draft lists online already though |
| 10:09.21 | Umair | thanks socinfo |
| 10:09.41 | Umair | i will in contact with u |
| 10:09.48 | thebolt | socinfo is a bot :P |
| 10:09.48 | socinfo | thebolt: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
| 10:10.06 | thebolt | (as you can see ;) |
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| 10:11.17 | boochu | Hi, I was wondering if we are allowed to do a co-op term and gsoc at the same time |
| 10:12.20 | ojwb | what's a co-op term? |
| 10:12.30 | ojwb | gsoc is expected to be essentially full time |
| 10:12.41 | ojwb | so around 40 hours a week during the coding period |
| 10:13.01 | ojwb | if you're hoping to do something else full time too, that isn't going to work |
| 10:13.21 | boochu | oh okay,thanks for your answer |
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| 13:46.37 | jacky | Is it a good idea to choose a c project for gsoc? |
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| 13:48.36 | gevaerts | Why wouldn't it be? |
| 13:48.54 | gevaerts | Well, I wouldn't try to propose a C project to an organisation that's java-only |
| 13:49.46 | jacky | The problem is i am presently only good at c and c++ |
| 13:50.14 | gevaerts | Then choose an organisation that does C or C++ |
| 13:50.58 | jacky | I will do that.....thanks mate! |
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| 13:51.50 | jacky | Have you taken part in gsoc previously? |
| 13:52.11 | gevaerts | as a mentor, yes |
| 13:52.46 | gevaerts | I was unfairly discriminated against when I was a student due to gsoc not existing yet back then, which may have been because Google didn't exist yet |
| 13:53.09 | jacky | Best person to get an advice from then! |
| 13:53.36 | jacky | That is unlucky,can't imagine a world without google now can we? |
| 13:53.48 | gevaerts | If you look at http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 (last year's list), you'll find 35 organisations with the tag "c++". "c" is harder to find because it's just a substring match and lots of tags have a c in them |
| 13:54.48 | gevaerts | 38 did java, and 40 python, so really about the same number |
| 13:55.15 | jacky | Thank you,i suppose c++ should be a better option as |
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| 13:55.35 | jacky | i have use it often |
| 13:56.05 | jacky | I would love to do something in python |
| 13:56.27 | jacky | Can we participate in gsoc if we have already participated once before? |
| 13:56.31 | gevaerts | yes |
| 13:56.52 | gevaerts | I hear python is easy to learn, so you should be able to be proficient in it by the time you have to apply :) |
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| 13:57.21 | jacky | Thats what i have heard too |
| 13:57.48 | jacky | Precisely the reason why i want to work on it and it is supposed to be very flexible! |
| 13:58.59 | gevaerts | I've never used it. I keep meaning to |
| 13:59.26 | jacky | Which language do you generally use? |
| 13:59.54 | gevaerts | I prefer C, but I also do a lot of java at work |
| 14:01.28 | jacky | I have not used java yet,and i am in second year(B.Tech) ,surprising isn't it? |
| 14:01.44 | mayanks43 | python's great for handling large numbers |
| 14:02.44 | gevaerts | knows too many java programmers who don't ever consider looking at the Java Language Specification |
| 14:03.23 | jacky | @mayanks43:would love to use it in future |
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| 14:03.46 | jacky | @gevaerts:Now thats interesting |
| 14:04.01 | Dark_Shikari | gevaerts: that's because anyone smart enough to do that is smart enough not to use such an awful programming language. |
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| 14:04.14 | gevaerts | Dark_Shikari: probably :) |
| 14:04.18 | mayanks43 | lol |
| 14:04.43 | gevaerts | stopped consulting K&R2 regularly when he got a copy of the ISO C spec :) |
| 14:05.05 | jacky | :) |
| 14:05.15 | jacky | :D |
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| 14:05.47 | gevaerts | Seriously, you encounter things regularly where knowing what the spec says is the only way to be sure that things will still work with the next version of the compiler |
| 14:06.02 | kai | gevaerts: the java language spec is a pain to read. k&r is really nice in comparison, and comes with examples and all |
| 14:06.05 | Dark_Shikari | that doesn't guarantee anything |
| 14:06.18 | gevaerts | Dark_Shikari: well, no, but then you can at least point fingers properly |
| 14:06.43 | jacky | @gevaerts:Is it ok if i asked you for your mail id? |
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| 14:06.53 | jacky | in case i needed your help |
| 14:06.56 | jacky | :) |
| 14:07.03 | gevaerts | You're better off asking here then |
| 14:07.58 | jacky | Well,Could you please give me your mail id?.(asking..lol) |
| 14:08.19 | jacky | lol |
| 14:08.20 | jacky | just kidding |
| 14:09.09 | jacky | so how long have you been working with java and in particular c? |
| 14:09.25 | gevaerts | twelve years or so |
| 14:09.47 | jacky | Wow!That is a really long time |
| 14:09.49 | gevaerts | Just long enough to have encountered pre-ansi C a bit |
| 14:10.03 | gevaerts | Not really. I'm sure many people here have more experience |
| 14:10.45 | jacky | It is really cool to have that much experience. |
| 14:11.01 | jacky | Two languages your whole life? |
| 14:11.05 | Dark_Shikari | "experience" isn't really validly measured in years. |
| 14:11.46 | gevaerts | That too |
| 14:12.12 | jacky | Well,i would love to believe in it,because i have used c++ only for a year and half or so |
| 14:12.44 | jacky | But can you work with only one language for twelve years?! |
| 14:13.50 | gevaerts | You can |
| 14:14.22 | gevaerts | Whether you *want* to is a different matter |
| 14:14.24 | Dark_Shikari | I've worked with one language for 21 years |
| 14:14.26 | Dark_Shikari | English `-` |
| 14:14.36 | jacky | lol |
| 14:14.39 | jacky | Fair point |
| 14:14.54 | gevaerts | hasn't managed that sort of feat, having attended school in two different languages |
| 14:15.10 | jacky | will love to talk to you all again, goodbye till then |
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