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| 02:47.40 | greeniekin | is there any possibility of seeing what google things of a organization. As i have been talking with a group about doing gsoc with them. Though they havn't participated since 2006 |
| 02:49.41 | greeniekin | I would imagine you can't. Though i'm just curious if it is the result of bad reviews or just having not participated |
| 02:50.48 | ojwb | you might be able to see what proportion of students passed last time they took part |
| 02:51.46 | ojwb | it's not necessarily a bad sign that they took some years off though |
| 02:53.16 | greeniekin | ok. I supose google doesn't publish pass/fail anywhere? or is it up to the organization to show it? |
| 02:56.13 | ojwb | i don't think it's explicitly published, but the information is likely to be discoverable |
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| 02:56.25 | dberkholz | hmm, not as much as you'd think |
| 02:56.53 | dberkholz | except by searching for announcements from individual orgs about how many students started, and then some kind of google number about how many finished |
| 02:57.18 | dberkholz | of course the 2006 gsoc website is gone now so the google number is harder |
| 02:57.20 | ojwb | doesn't melange show the students an org had? |
| 02:58.00 | dberkholz | i don't think so, unless you're an admin (and maybe a mentor) |
| 02:58.16 | ojwb | i can see e.g. abiword had 3 students last year |
| 02:58.22 | ojwb | and I'm nothing to do with abiwrod |
| 02:58.29 | ojwb | http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/list_projects/google/gsoc2010 |
| 02:59.05 | ojwb | greeniekin: you could also look at the org mailing lists and see if they applied in subsequent years |
| 02:59.05 | dberkholz | that's passing students. now find the starting students number |
| 03:00.10 | dberkholz | failed students essentially disappear, except for archived announcements from an org |
| 03:00.38 | greeniekin | ojwb: thanks for the help. I will look into it |
| 03:01.54 | ojwb | dberkholz: well, yes - most orgs announce that they have N students and what they're doing |
| 03:02.00 | ojwb | so the wider community know |
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| 03:02.51 | ojwb | e.g. abiword had 3 to start with: http://www.abiword.org/mailinglists/abiword-dev/2010/Apr/0033.html |
| 03:02.54 | ojwb | so 100% |
| 03:04.28 | ojwb | might be harder for 2006 though |
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| 04:58.59 | dskw | hi sk__ |
| 04:59.10 | sk__ | hey dskw |
| 04:59.29 | sk__ | do u have decided organisation? |
| 04:59.44 | sk__ | submitted any patches??? |
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| 09:07.47 | nickon | i have a question: is google summer of code also for European (especially Belgian) students? |
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| 09:08.18 | ana_ | nickon: yes, it is also for european students |
| 09:08.49 | nickon | ana: might look like a foolish question, but the reason i ask is because of our academic system |
| 09:09.09 | nickon | my exam period stops the 29th of june |
| 09:09.23 | ana | nickon: yes, sadly they can not fit the program to work with all the academic system |
| 09:09.36 | ana | for some students the google summer of code is in winter :) |
| 09:10.21 | |Kev| | nickon: As long as you can commit to putting in enough work on GSoC, this is fine. |
| 09:10.21 | nickon | but is this not a drawback for students like us ? I mean, I really want to participate but I've got less time than other students |
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| 09:10.41 | nickon | arent mentoring organisations gonna say, nah you can't do that project, you only got 7 weeks for this instead of 12 |
| 09:10.43 | |Kev| | This could be difficult during exam period for you, but is not an insurmountable problem. |
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| 09:11.53 | nickon | hmm so it isn't that big a deal if the 'intensive' coding period starts a bit later for me, as long as i make this clear from the start to the mentoring organisation ? |
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| 09:20.58 | ojwb | nickon: students with exams during coding often make a start during the community bonding period |
| 09:21.19 | ojwb | you just need to make it clear what commitments you have in your application, and how you plan to work around them |
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| 09:24.34 | |Kev| | It's not 9-5, Mon-Fri, for those given 12 weeks, but you should arrange something with the org so that you can get that sort of amount of work in, in total, by the deadline. |
| 09:24.51 | |Kev| | Start early, whatever. |
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| 09:37.18 | gevaerts | nickon: organisations are aware of this problem, and know it's not your fault. I know we (rockbox) have never rejected a student proposal due to an ill-fitting university schedule |
| 09:37.41 | nickon | hey gevaerts |
| 09:37.49 | nickon | thanks its nice to hear that |
| 09:38.06 | nickon | its just out of our hands really yes |
| 09:38.32 | gevaerts | I'd say that about the same proportion of mentors are from Europe, and we don't want to discriminate against our own :) |
| 09:39.04 | MatthewWilkes | +1 from Plone, although we do expect to be told up front |
| 09:39.07 | MatthewWilkes | ftr ;) |
| 09:39.25 | nickon | it just seems that, lets say, an organisation gets 2 student proposals and 1 which has more time at hand then the other it seems the obvious choice to go with the other |
| 09:39.29 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: Also, Doom on a SansaClip? You crazy bastards ;) |
| 09:39.49 | nickon | i know commitment to the project is also u huge factor, but i can imagane that all students that apply are commited :) |
| 09:39.53 | gevaerts | Oh, sure. Be open about these things |
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| 09:40.15 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: you got a clip? |
| 09:40.16 | MatthewWilkes | nickon: Well, only if they're exactly the same, really, as we'd pick the person more likely to be able to finish it. If two people have the same skills and somebody has a month more, that might swing it |
| 09:40.16 | dskw | Doom on Sansaclip sounds awesome |
| 09:40.21 | MatthewWilkes | but that NEVER happens in reality |
| 09:40.42 | MatthewWilkes | The proposals are of varying enough quality that I've never gone based on time |
| 09:40.47 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: Yup, a clip+ |
| 09:41.05 | |Kev| | nickon: FWIW, there are very few cases in which I'd take the student being in .eu exam sessions as a deciding factor. Students are wildly different and the applications just don't end up balanced on a knife-edge like that. |
| 09:41.06 | nickon | MatthewWilkes, thats because of the scope of gsoc and offered projects of organisations? |
| 09:41.08 | gevaerts | It's the ideal portable device of doom :) |
| 09:41.26 | MatthewWilkes | nickon: Well, some students don't really take it seriously and submit utter crap ;) |
| 09:41.52 | MatthewWilkes | like, I've seen proposals that were plagiarised from out mailing list |
| 09:42.26 | |Kev| | nickon: Interaction with the community before sorting applications trumps most things. This has a vastly greater effect on sorting the apps than whether you have exams :) |
| 09:42.42 | MatthewWilkes | nickon: I say, just submit your proposal, spend some time on it, talk to devs on the project and see how it goes, I very, very much doubt the timescales will be the deciding factor |
| 09:42.48 | |Kev| | MatthewWilkes: I like the ones that copy/paste the proposal from the wiki :) |
| 09:43.08 | gevaerts | Don't let the five to one ratio of proposals vs. slots mislead you. There really aren't five usable proposals for each slot |
| 09:43.14 | |Kev| | Especially if they mangle it in the process. |
| 09:43.20 | nickon | thanks all for the advice |
| 09:43.43 | nickon | I already planned to scan the organisations and projects they are working on when the mentor organisations list goes online |
| 09:44.02 | MatthewWilkes | Yeah, for example, there have been about as many years we asked for more slots as years we gave up a slot because we didn't want to give it to any of the students left after picking hte best proposals |
| 09:44.02 | nickon | i recon you are all talking from the mentor organisation perspective ? |
| 09:44.12 | MatthewWilkes | yeah |
| 09:44.14 | nickon | i mean you guys are potential mentors for gsoc ? |
| 09:44.51 | gevaerts | Yes |
| 09:45.14 | gevaerts | Well, at least the three last people who replied |
| 09:45.53 | nickon | yeah I meant that, gevaerts MatthewWilkes and |Kev| I assumed |
| 09:46.21 | |Kev| | nickon: Yes. From the org's PoV. |
| 09:46.27 | gevaerts | Well, that's assuming our organisations get selected of course :) |
| 09:46.37 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: +1 :) |
| 09:46.58 | MatthewWilkes | I'm not admining this year, going to try and be the best damn mentor I can be though, want to come to the summit ;) |
| 09:46.59 | |Kev| | Potential mentor based on whether our org gets accepted, and whether a student submitting a proposal I'd end up mentoring... |
| 09:47.11 | |Kev| | +English. |
| 09:47.46 | nickon | Well, I hope you all get to mentor a project |
| 09:47.55 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: :) i wish i could mentor, just to have a possibility of going to the summit :P |
| 09:48.01 | gevaerts | We hope so too :) |
| 09:48.14 | MatthewWilkes | thebolt: the summit is fun |
| 09:48.20 | |Kev| | nickon: Thanks. |
| 09:48.21 | nickon | you were all very helpfull to me so I recon you will be good mentors ;) |
| 09:48.33 | MatthewWilkes | My favourite moment was spectie on the grass outside telling me he knew somebody called Matt from the Plone project |
| 09:48.36 | |Kev| | nickon: I hope so, I've let down a number of students over the years if I wasn't :) |
| 09:48.36 | MatthewWilkes | I laughed a fair bit |
| 09:48.43 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: :P |
| 09:48.46 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: have a look at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,25668.msg171845.html#msg171845 to get an idea of how seriously some people take doom on the clip. Unfortunately he never uploaded his stuff |
| 09:48.57 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: omg, want |
| 09:49.00 | nickon | hehe |
| 09:50.06 | gevaerts | But just to make things clear, "Improving Doom graphics on the Clip" is unlikely to get accepted as a gsoc project :) |
| 09:50.28 | nickon | :D |
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| 09:51.20 | MatthewWilkes | I'll buy beers for anyone that does it though |
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| 09:51.46 | |Kev| | This is wrong on so many levels :) |
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| 09:51.55 | MatthewWilkes | also, gevaerts: Why aren't there rockbox display things in shops that sell MP3 players so you can load it on immediately? |
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| 09:55.50 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: because we thought *you* would be the one to take that commercial opportunity :) |
| 09:56.52 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: Hmm, don't make me become a contributor⦠|
| 09:57.09 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: :) |
| 09:57.56 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: you know, the more oranisations you could possibly mentor for, the higher your chances to go to the summit |
| 09:58.02 | gevaerts | plays dirty :) |
| 09:58.40 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: I don't think scorche would put up with sharing a room with me |
| 09:59.39 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: if we handle this properly, I'm sure we can manage to get scorche out of the picture :) |
| 10:00.17 | gevaerts | hopes that scorche isn't reading this... |
| 10:03.06 | thebolt | haha |
| 10:03.36 | thebolt | conspiring to recruit a mentor :P |
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| 10:04.29 | gevaerts | And to oust an admin even :) |
| 10:07.13 | thebolt | was an admin 2 years, mentor 4, but is now without org.. |
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| 12:44.27 | fireandice | Hey guys, would a 12-year-old be qualified for membership? |
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| 12:45.37 | |Kev| | No. |
| 12:45.40 | |Kev| | 18+ |
| 12:45.46 | |Kev| | Check the FAQ. |
| 12:47.09 | fireandice | Ok, because I'm an expert at design, data structures, and the C programming language. So I'll just have to push my projects up to Google without the SoC endorsement then. |
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| 12:48.46 | |Kev| | Sorry, was just on my way to stop my lunch burning, thus the short replies. |
| 12:48.55 | |Kev| | I'm fairly sure the FAQ says 18+, but you should check that. |
| 12:49.00 | fireandice | That's OK. |
| 12:49.04 | andre__ | fireandice, in case there's another Google Code-In contest that might be interesting for you... |
| 12:51.21 | fireandice | I don't know of any other contests at Google. I know of Doodle 4 Google, but that isn't a coding contest! :( Are there any coding contests that they would allow 12-year-old |
| 12:51.26 | fireandice | s in? |
| 12:51.46 | fireandice | Sorry, entered in before end of post. |
| 12:51.50 | ojwb | yes, google code in |
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| 12:52.14 | andre__ | fireandice, I just answered that ;-) |
| 12:52.21 | andre__ | Last GCI allowed 13 years: https://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/rules.html |
| 12:52.26 | |Kev| | GSoC isn't really a contest, it's a summer job. |
| 12:54.12 | fireandice | Okay, either way it's OK. I'll just push the code directly up to the Google servers. |
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| 12:55.10 | gevaerts | The code doesn't go to google. It goes to the organisations |
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| 12:59.19 | ojwb | well, a code dump gets uploaded to google code, but that's just to demonstrate what work got done |
| 12:59.25 | ojwb | virtual paperwork really |
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| 13:48.20 | dberkholz | ojwb: agreed re orgs announcing # of students. my point is that number is much harder to find, and really impossible to easily scale the process of finding it to track the "best orgs" to apply for |
| 13:49.06 | dberkholz | where best means students have the greatest chances of avoiding failure |
| 13:49.29 | dberkholz | presumably this is mainly useful to avoid the low outliers, since the overall rate is around 85% last i heard. |
| 13:55.37 | ojwb | dberkholz: probably enough random variation that the numbers wouldn't be very useful for that |
| 13:55.53 | ojwb | but the student was only wondering about one particular org in this case |
| 14:00.27 | dberkholz | ojwb: i'd hope it's not random at all; orgs either improve their processes or don't get invited back =) |
| 14:00.30 | karni | !next |
| 14:00.30 | socinfo | karni: "next" is (#1) 23:00 UTC on Friday, March 12th - Mentoring organization application deadline, or (#2) 23:00 UTC on Friday, March 11 - Mentoring organization application deadline |
| 14:01.51 | ojwb | dberkholz: well, some students fail for external reasons - that's pretty random |
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| 14:02.33 | gevaerts | If I were google I'd also be investigating those orgs who have a consistent 100% success rate |
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| 14:02.37 | ojwb | you also have to fail an integer number of students |
| 14:02.53 | gevaerts | ojwb: not entirely |
| 14:03.16 | gevaerts | You can fail at midterm, which is a full fail, or at the end, which may be seen as failing half a student :) |
| 14:03.23 | ojwb | if they fail at the midterm or end, that's still a fail overall |
| 14:03.28 | |Kev| | I had to fail a student once, I accept some of the blame in this as his mentor, but I don't think it would be reasonable to judge the success of the org on what was largely out of our hands. |
| 14:03.35 | ojwb | at least for the stats we're talking about here |
| 14:03.54 | |Kev| | Given that he basically vanished only to reappear at the end. |
| 14:04.25 | |Kev| | At which point it was too late to sort things out, because his earlier work hadn't been in the right direction. |
| 14:04.25 | |Kev| | But anyway. |
| 14:04.25 | gevaerts | I'd say most failures can be learned from, but I'm not sure it follows that learning those lessons automatically leads to fewer failures |
| 14:05.05 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: You can fail at community bonding, too ;) |
| 14:05.09 | MatthewWilkes | We had a student drop out then |
| 14:05.35 | Ivanovic | there are some failures that you can't prevent |
| 14:05.56 | ojwb | you can fail at different points, but we were talking about number of students who pass at the end compared to number who were allocated slots |
| 14:06.12 | Ivanovic | and some that you can try to prevent from happening if you have the knowledge and chose wisely |
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| 14:06.46 | |Kev| | You have chosen...wisely. |
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| 14:08.24 | gevaerts | And then of course there's the old conflict between failing bad projects because it's the right thing to do and trying to rescue them and letting projects that really should have failed pass because the student will really fix things the week after the end, promised |
| 14:08.33 | MatthewWilkes | |Kev|: :D |
| 14:08.39 | gevaerts | The first is the right thing, the second leads to better stats |
| 14:09.43 | ojwb | but rarely to the project getting fixed up after the end I suspect |
| 14:10.07 | gevaerts | Indeed |
| 14:10.16 | gevaerts | Well, not by the student |
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| 14:12.34 | |Kev| | Failing students is not an experience I wish to repeat. |
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| 14:19.42 | sfb | I had a student in GCI give me the whole "I really want a guitar" spiel. |
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| 14:19.57 | sfb | Sorry, but this is unusable. "I'll work on it next week, I promise." |
| 14:20.03 | sfb | I made him make it usable. |
| 14:20.21 | sfb | It really only needed about 2 more hours work. I mean come on.. |
| 14:20.27 | jweede | What's the "I really want a guitar" spiel? As in he was only doing it for the money? |
| 14:20.46 | sfb | jweede: Basically "I just need one more task and I qualify for enough money.' |
| 14:21.02 | jweede | sfb: ugh. That is lame. |
| 14:21.04 | sfb | Anyway I worked through it with him and passed him. |
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| 14:21.18 | sfb | And to his credit he came back the week following GCI and wanted to "finish" it. |
| 14:21.20 | sfb | Polish it up. |
| 14:21.33 | sfb | I was pretty surprised. |
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| 14:21.43 | MatthewWilkes | sfb: I got a bit disillusioned by GCI this year, had people unclaim the task when we came back asking for changes a lot, people submitting plagiarised work, etc |
| 14:22.44 | sfb | MatthewWilkes: Yeah, it was pretty rough. |
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| 14:22.53 | sfb | MatthewWilkes: I had a lot of kids just looking for quick wins. |
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| 14:23.23 | ojwb | the structure seems to favour that though |
| 14:23.36 | ojwb | AIUI, the student can only have one task claimed at a time |
| 14:23.45 | sfb | I had a number of tasks that would be about an hour worth of work for me so I figured I could guide someone through the work in say 3-4 hours at worse. |
| 14:23.48 | MatthewWilkes | We had an amazing time with GHOP |
| 14:23.53 | sfb | As soon as I explained this the task would be unclaimed. |
| 14:23.55 | ojwb | so anything requiring much review by the mentor makes it hard to score well |
| 14:24.13 | MatthewWilkes | I think the really motivated students got lured away by the other orgs, Plone's not as sexy as some others |
| 14:24.28 | sfb | Well |
| 14:24.31 | sfb | Look at the top rankings |
| 14:24.42 | sfb | Most of those students picked up 400 "translation tasks" |
| 14:25.05 | MatthewWilkes | Yeah, that fucked me off too |
| 14:25.06 | sfb | "Oh man, all i have to do is tell them what the word for "beefcake" in Pashtu? DONE!" |
| 14:25.11 | MatthewWilkes | People machine translating it |
| 14:25.19 | sfb | Yeah |
| 14:25.48 | MatthewWilkes | not to mention how hard it was to get people to mentor because of Melange not being ready |
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| 14:26.24 | gevaerts | And not having a clip yet to play doom on to vent those frustrations :) |
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| 14:27.01 | DrJoel | RTEMS didn't have much for translation. We target nerd users and they tend to handle English enough to not need translations |
| 14:27.11 | sfb | gevaerts: haha I hope I get accepted and get to come to the mentor summit |
| 14:27.38 | sfb | gevaerts: I forgot how funny you guys were |
| 14:28.14 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: I thought you had a clip? |
| 14:28.20 | DrJoel | MatthewWilkes: Did you get something surprising done by a student during GCI? |
| 14:28.47 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: I meant for you :) I do have a clip, but it's a v1, and those only have 2MB RAM, which isn't enough for doom |
| 14:28.47 | MatthewWilkes | DrJoel: Not in a good way, no. We did in GHOP, but I tried to think of some real GCI wins and they didn't stack up |
| 14:29.37 | |Kev| | We've not done anything for GHOP/GCI - how do they compare to GSoC? |
| 14:29.46 | |Kev| | (As an experience for the org) |
| 14:30.23 | DrJoel | we had a lot of Wiki tasks.. review N pages to style and fix.. write wiki page on X.. but the outstanding ones were on the improvements to the shell script and graphs for our test coverage. A few students took on specific issues and the pages are nicer now |
| 14:30.23 | MatthewWilkes | GHOP was really wonderful, they put GSOC students to shame |
| 14:30.53 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: I do have about fifteen *other* players that can run doom though |
| 14:32.34 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: Is it possible to make a pretty theme? The Clip ones all look very similar |
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| 14:33.51 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: the theme system should be flexible enough, but there's only so much one can do with a 64x128 screen with the top 16 pixels in another colour... |
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| 14:34.24 | MatthewWilkes | true |
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| 14:34.55 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: Can you theme the menus? |
| 14:35.12 | |Kev| | MatthewWilkes: Thanks. |
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| 14:38.18 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: up to a point. You can theme the "status bar" and decide which area the lists go in, but for the actual lists you can really only change the font and put icons there (and change the icon set). I'm not a specialist though |
| 14:38.53 | MatthewWilkes | k |
| 14:38.55 | MatthewWilkes | :D |
| 14:39.01 | MatthewWilkes | something fun to play with, anyway |
| 14:39.15 | gevaerts | If you want actual help, #rockbox is a better option :) |
| 14:40.10 | MatthewWilkes | I know, I know |
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| 14:43.11 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS should have all information you need, but it might not be easy to get through at first |
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| 15:24.59 | sathishkumar | #gsoc hi |
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| 15:30.45 | sathishkumar | How many syudent can do single project in GSOC? |
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| 15:32.23 | MatthewWilkes | sathishkumar: 1 |
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| 15:39.13 | sathishkumar | whether module participating in GSOC? |
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| 15:40.28 | sathishkumar | whether moodle participate in GSOC?? |
| 15:41.27 | dskw | i'm not sure we understand your question... |
| 15:42.31 | |Kev| | sathishkumar: No-one knows if they're participating yet. You could ask if they intend to, though. |
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| 15:44.01 | socketguru | can anyone tell good source to know who all org. have applied this time |
| 15:44.17 | |Kev| | http://google.com ? |
| 15:44.26 | danparker | Have a look at who participated last year |
| 15:44.38 | |Kev| | Someone was trying to keep a list up to date, but I don't have the linik. |
| 15:45.28 | socketguru | hmm |
| 15:45.31 | socketguru | i had that list too |
| 15:45.56 | c0smikdebris | Here's the link: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgfaVN-Bzcp0dDNkS1ZETEU0UzVlYmNVTFdpaW4zZXc&hl=en#gid=0 |
| 15:46.15 | socketguru | but it had 50 something org list...not all |
| 15:46.15 | |Kev| | Well, no-one knows all the orgs who'll apply yet. |
| 15:46.16 | socketguru | hmm |
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| 15:46.20 | |Kev| | c0smikdebris: thanks. |
| 15:47.25 | socketguru | thanks |
| 15:47.29 | socketguru | this is the same link |
| 15:47.31 | socketguru | but only 59 |
| 15:47.40 | socketguru | but it will do |
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| 15:54.20 | DrJoel | c0smikdebris: how does one get on the unofficial list? RTEMS has applied to be in again but not on the list |
| 15:54.51 | DrJoel | ohh... I see now |
| 15:54.57 | svaksha | DrJoel: you can edit it |
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| 15:58.13 | DrJoel | svaksha: I realized that .. doh! |
| 15:58.19 | svaksha | :) |
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| 16:31.46 | kai | timotei: I don't see what you're getting at, actually, is that the discuss list? |
| 16:31.47 | |Kev| | kai: I think it was, I didn't check. |
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| 16:32.15 | kai | uh, yeah |
| 16:32.15 | kai | I just checked |
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| 16:37.53 | timotei | kai: yes. |
| 16:37.53 | timotei | :P |
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| 16:38.15 | timotei | I'm wondering if I should fill a feature request for google group, so each user which has < 1 or 2 posts, to be shown a "FAQ" or so, before posting on the group. That would help anyone, including carol:) |
| 16:38.43 | shadeslayer | timotei: yeah that would be a good thing |
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| 16:40.44 | kai | at least I now know that QQ is the world's largest online community |
| 16:42.05 | shadeslayer | QQ ? |
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| 16:43.27 | kai | shadeslayer: seems to be an ICQ clone popular in china |
| 16:43.29 | shadeslayer | ah |
| 16:43.30 | shadeslayer | vaguely remembers his first contact with ICQ |
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| 16:43.31 | shadeslayer | and then later on Yahoo Chat rooms |
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| 16:43.33 | kai | also, "Because of QQ's extensive use of advertisements and processes related to ads, it has been branded as malicious adware by many anti-virus and anti-spyware vendors", according to wikipedia |
| 16:43.34 | shadeslayer | eeks |
| 16:43.35 | kai | yo, lh :) |
| 16:43.36 | lh | kai: hello! |
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| 16:44.19 | kai | shadeslayer: so it seems to be the world's largest online community of people being ripped off |
| 16:44.30 | shadeslayer | lol |
| 16:44.42 | shadeslayer | that's one way to look at it ... :P |
| 16:45.11 | shadeslayer | but seeing how China even allows such services .... more power to the people :P |
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| 17:16.42 | Guest74436 | hello , |
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| 17:17.50 | Guest74436 | anyone from india here ? |
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| 17:19.52 | socketguru | ya |
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| 17:37.18 | shadeslayer | Guest74436: yes |
| 17:38.35 | akashm1990 | shadeslayer: GSoC 2011 project: Implement a test for joining the GSoC mailing list |
| 17:38.46 | akashm1990 | Guest74436: How is someones country relevant? |
| 17:38.46 | shadeslayer | hahah |
| 17:39.00 | shadeslayer | is fiddling with polkit |
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| 17:42.42 | shadeslayer | akashm1990: pm |
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| 17:46.50 | Guest74436 | just wanted to know if there are any |
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| 17:52.12 | shadeslayer | Guest74436: alot probably |
| 17:52.26 | akashm1990 | !stats |
| 17:52.26 | socinfo | akashm1990: I have 1 registered users with 0 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 17:52.48 | akashm1990 | shadeslayer: there was a stats page, have the link? |
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| 17:53.20 | shadeslayer | no :S |
| 17:53.31 | shadeslayer | i know there's a page with all the org's stats on it |
| 17:54.00 | akashm1990 | I remember one with country wise and university wise applications |
| 17:54.08 | akashm1990 | India was 2nd or 3rd highest there |
| 17:54.34 | shadeslayer | ok that's *high* |
| 17:56.02 | mayanks43 | check google open source blog |
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| 18:02.21 | akashm1990 | for those looking for stats, http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgL4N-OdGxhQcDZEdW9BMmxKVG9LbVV6b1NxNnJhWlE&gid=2 |
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| 18:08.35 | dskw | i wonder what the entries highlighted in green means |
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| 18:13.18 | Guest74436 | ya that's really high , nice to hear |
| 18:14.10 | Guest74436 | hi rohan which college ? |
| 18:14.26 | Guest74436 | and where are u from |
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| 18:16.46 | shadeslayer | Guest74436: ITM, Gurgaon |
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| 18:22.46 | anth_x | Is it acceptable to have the student application template be a link to an external page (rather than included in the org application)? |
| 18:26.37 | carols | anth_x: sure |
| 18:26.45 | anth_x | thanks. |
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| 19:07.21 | dotnick | carols: ever thought of created a script that sends automatic responses to common questions? :) |
| 19:07.31 | dotnick | s/created/creating |
| 19:08.05 | summatusmentis | there's a bot that has commands that do something similar |
| 19:08.12 | summatusmentis | it's not automatic, you have to trigger it |
| 19:08.15 | carols | dotnick: i dont code, so i've considered it many times and never been able to do it |
| 19:08.21 | summatusmentis | but things like: |
| 19:08.23 | summatusmentis | !faq |
| 19:08.23 | socinfo | summatusmentis: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 19:08.27 | summatusmentis | work just fine |
| 19:08.37 | carols | !couch |
| 19:08.37 | socinfo | carols: "couch" is An open source couch on which to chill. |
| 19:08.44 | summatusmentis | yes, exactly :) |
| 19:08.49 | dotnick | summatusmentis: I was talking about email replies |
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| 19:09.12 | summatusmentis | dotnick: oh, that's what I get for not reading far enough scrollback |
| 19:09.30 | summatusmentis | sorry for jumping in |
| 19:10.14 | dotnick | summatusmentis: no worries, there weren't any messages before that btw :) |
| 19:10.36 | timotei | dotnick: I think the "read this faq" before posting first 2 posts, would be better :P |
| 19:10.52 | timotei | dotnick: and the google groups guys could do it. or even help you them implement that:D |
| 19:11.12 | summatusmentis | dotnick: oh, see, I scrolled back, and saw carols answer a question before your suggestion, and so assumed it was in response to that |
| 19:14.21 | dotnick | timotei: I think many people automatically ignore "RTFM" messages |
| 19:14.52 | dotnick | and people end up replying to the same questions over and over again just to let them know that everything is in the FAQ |
| 19:14.57 | timotei | dotnick: not that. something like a license agreement, but with some faq links :P |
| 19:15.07 | dotnick | even worse :P |
| 19:15.40 | timotei | dotnick: and there shall be 2 buttons: I have read | I have not read the FAQ |
| 19:15.43 | timotei | xD |
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| 19:18.32 | akashm1990 | timotei: there would be a quiz on the basis of the FAQ's.. |
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| 19:18.41 | scorche | glares at gevaerts and an absent MatthewWilkes |
| 19:18.56 | gevaerts | glares back |
| 19:19.40 | gevaerts | serves tea and coffee :) |
| 19:19.49 | timotei | akashm1990: hmm... wow... that's a great idea. |
| 19:19.50 | timotei | xD |
| 19:19.56 | madrazr | !timeline |
| 19:19.56 | socinfo | madrazr: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz |
| 19:19.59 | timotei | but I don't think anyone will love that |
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| 19:20.17 | akashm1990 | people already on the mailing list would.. |
| 19:20.28 | akashm1990 | not that its practical.. |
| 19:20.36 | akashm1990 | but still mentioning it |
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| 21:39.16 | CrawfordComeaux | Would it be possible to change my link id? |
| 21:39.39 | CrawfordComeaux | I've been asked to use a different email address for the one I'm currently using. |
| 21:40.52 | carols | CrawfordComeaux: nope |
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| 21:43.32 | CrawfordComeaux | Ok :) |
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