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| 00:30.14 | nrungta | I am an org. admin and trying to submit an application. When I hit submit, some weird line breaks get added to certain text fields. When I click in the box, they disappear but every time I save the application they come back. Any suggestions to fix this? |
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| 00:45.58 | k0p | hi there |
| 00:46.11 | k0p | is possible to be a mentor in 2 orgs? |
| 00:47.25 | The_Tick | k0p: http://boredzo.org/blog/archives/2011-03-08/mentoring |
| 00:47.31 | The_Tick | can you do that for both reliably? |
| 00:51.20 | k0p | sure |
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| 00:52.06 | k0p | The_Tick: so there is no restriction right? |
| 00:53.31 | The_Tick | no idea |
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| 00:53.37 | The_Tick | but I figured that'd be something worth asking |
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| 00:55.13 | ojwb | k0p: there's no restriction |
| 00:55.21 | scorche|sh | k0p: you can, but please make sure you can dedicate the time the students need |
| 00:55.38 | ojwb | but I'd advise people to think very carefully before taking on more than one student, whether in the same org or two different orgs |
| 00:56.28 | scorche|sh | indeed - it might be easily done for some students, but other students may require more of your time than others... |
| 00:57.25 | ojwb | and you can't always tell up front |
| 01:01.33 | The_Tick | I've seen projects in the past require 2 mentors per 1 student |
| 01:01.36 | The_Tick | which was kind of nice |
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| 01:29.51 | k0p | sure guys. |
| 01:30.12 | k0p | I'll have time, one of them is very related with my research. So I'm aware of it |
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| 01:40.46 | sumanah | I accidentally submitted a duplicate application for my organization and do not know how to delete it. Should I just leave it alone or would that cause y'all trouble? if the latter, how should I tell you which is the dupe to delete -- file a bug? |
| 01:41.17 | carols | sumanah: the melange guys can help, you should email them |
| 01:41.32 | sumanah | thanks carols, will do |
| 01:41.39 | carols | yw |
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| 07:42.20 | dspace_ | hai... |
| 07:42.32 | dspace_ | how is mentoring going? |
| 07:44.32 | cosmopolitan | it hasn't begun yet ? |
| 07:45.12 | dspace_ | what are the new ideas?.. |
| 07:45.52 | cosmopolitan | they haven't listed them yet |
| 07:47.09 | dspace_ | did u participate in previous years? |
| 07:47.19 | cosmopolitan | nope, this will be the first year I apply |
| 07:47.26 | cosmopolitan | hopefully i get accepted :) |
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| 07:47.57 | dspace_ | best of luck.... |
| 07:48.01 | cosmopolitan | Boost looks like the best option right now, but we'll see who ends up on the list |
| 07:48.04 | cosmopolitan | thanks, you too |
| 07:48.24 | dspace_ | thank u... |
| 07:50.44 | dspace_ | ok...bye...c u... |
| 07:51.07 | dspace_ | happy hacking.... |
| 07:51.20 | ojwb | most orgs applying will have public ideas lists up |
| 07:51.35 | ojwb | though you can't know for sure which will be accepted |
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| 08:11.50 | kai | new-kernel-fresh :D |
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| 08:24.41 | thebolt | hi kai |
| 08:25.08 | |Kev| | Morning all. |
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| 08:25.31 | Edulix | hi people |
| 08:26.07 | mayanks43 | hello |
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| 08:27.15 | kai | hey thebolt, |Kev|, * |
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| 08:41.00 | Edulix | what's the Backup Admin (Link ID) ? |
| 08:41.04 | Edulix | and how do I get one? :P |
| 08:43.22 | thebolt | kai: how's progress? |
| 08:43.52 | |Kev| | Edulix: You get a Link ID when you sign up to Melange. |
| 08:44.07 | |Kev| | So get the Backup Admin to sign up, and give you their ID. |
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| 09:15.15 | kai | thebolt: ok, had to restart some experiments because the stubborn bacteria aren't cooperating |
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| 09:20.09 | thebolt | kai: heh, hard to tell them i guess ;) |
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| 09:20.09 | kai | yeah, true |
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| 09:33.22 | |Kev| | kai: You need a smaller carrot, and a bigger stick. |
| 09:33.37 | |Kev| | isn't letting his lack of knowledge stop him from contributing. |
| 09:34.38 | kai | |Kev|: or I just boil them all to death and get new spores from the fridge |
| 09:35.54 | MatthewWilkes | loves the sign at the µbiology dept at his uni |
| 09:35.58 | MatthewWilkes | "Staph only" |
| 09:36.15 | svaksha | :) |
| 09:37.43 | |Kev| | kai: My way sounds more fun. |
| 09:37.57 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: :) |
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| 10:09.22 | kai | MatthewWilkes: hehe, we're not working with staphylococci, though, that's downstairs |
| 10:09.33 | kai | but I agree it's a good one :) |
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| 10:10.00 | gevaerts | "No staph beyond this line" then? |
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| 10:11.55 | kai | a microbiologist will point out that a significant amount of the population has s.aureus living on their skin :) |
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| 10:13.00 | gevaerts | Sometimes you have to make concessions in the accuracy department if you want to make a joke work :) |
| 10:13.07 | MatthewWilkes | kai: Is that a prediciton? ;) |
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| 10:14.24 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: weren't you complaining about the lack of good looking themes for the clip? Surely http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1026&target=sansaclipplus is great! |
| 10:15.01 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: heheh |
| 10:15.05 | |Kev| | gevaerts: Heh, I like that. |
| 10:15.16 | ojwb | gevaerts: the tape spool radii are wrong |
| 10:15.17 | |Kev| | How do you get to Doom from there? |
| 10:15.20 | ojwb | neat though |
| 10:15.41 | gevaerts | |Kev|: in the main menu, plugins -> games -> doom :) |
| 10:15.48 | |Kev| | \o/ |
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| 10:16.21 | gevaerts | http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1286&target=cowond2 is of course even nicer looking, but you can't really do that on a monochrome oled screen |
| 10:16.47 | |Kev| | Oh, that *is* good. |
| 10:17.02 | gevaerts | I believe those little spools even turn |
| 10:18.47 | |Kev| | gevaerts: The spools turning is nice and all - but does the tape correctly change reels? |
| 10:19.20 | gevaerts | :) |
| 10:20.10 | ojwb | and add fake tape hiss to the playback |
| 10:20.49 | ojwb | that's probably too much attention to detail though |
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| 10:24.23 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: How about occasionally getting the tape 'trapped' and corrupting your files? |
| 10:24.52 | |Kev| | Killer feature. |
| 10:25.28 | ojwb | actually still mostly uses tapes in the car |
| 10:26.49 | |Kev| | My iPod lives in my car. The interface through the stereo's not ideal, but it's terribly convenient compared to tapes or CDs. |
| 10:27.29 | ojwb | i have an mp3 player and a mini radio transmitter, but tapes are simpler for short journeys |
| 10:27.39 | ojwb | and I have a big box of them still |
| 10:27.49 | |Kev| | I used to use a radio thing, but it never worked terribly well for me. |
| 10:28.19 | ojwb | mine's good once I realised you really don't want to power it off the lighter socket |
| 10:28.24 | ojwb | lots of hum |
| 10:31.33 | |Kev| | Ah well. |
| 10:31.50 | |Kev| | My current car has an iPod fitting, and I'll probably keep it until I run it into the ground. |
| 10:31.56 | |Kev| | Or my wife does, more accuratel. |
| 10:31.57 | |Kev| | +y |
| 10:32.11 | MatthewWilkes | |Kev|: You wife has an iPod fitting?! |
| 10:32.16 | MatthewWilkes | your, dammit⦠|
| 10:32.49 | ojwb | MatthewWilkes: worse, he's planning to run her into the ground, then get rid of her |
| 10:32.50 | |Kev| | I...but...I...but...said...but...car...but |
| 10:32.51 | |Kev| | oh |
| 10:32.55 | aghisla | from the Fuzzy Sentence Interpretation Dept. |
| 10:32.55 | |Kev| | :( |
| 10:33.26 | ojwb | is that a fuzzy department who interpret sentences or ... etc etc |
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| 10:34.28 | thebolt | i guess, if we speak lojban such errors in interpretation is not possible ;) |
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| 10:35.17 | gevaerts | Can one do puns in lojban? |
| 10:36.17 | MatthewWilkes | Q: How many Lojbanists does it take to change a broken light bulb? |
| 10:36.17 | MatthewWilkes | A: Two: one to decide what to change it into, and one to figure out what kind of bulb emits broken light. |
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| 10:37.21 | gevaerts | :) |
| 10:37.47 | gevaerts | If all they say about lojban is true, that's not translatable to lojban :) |
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| 10:40.39 | ojwb | gevaerts: perhaps a cunning linguist could |
| 10:41.08 | gevaerts | :) |
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| 10:41.31 | gevaerts | I wonder... If someone finds an inconsistency in lojban, do they issue a patch and a CVE number? |
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| 10:43.25 | thebolt | probably it will be like every other science.. they shoot the messenger (first) |
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| 12:25.05 | skfin | Melange says just "use Google's zip code if you are asked a zip code for account verification" but doesnt say what it is |
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| 12:25.08 | skfin | :) |
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| 12:48.48 | nickbarnes | Problems with my link ID onMelange, possibly pilot error. Is here a good place to ask? |
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| 12:49.57 | ojwb | #melange is probably better, if it's something that needs fixing inside melange |
| 12:50.14 | nickbarnes | Thanks. I'll ask there first. |
| 12:55.16 | nickbarnes | Not getting any joy at #melange. |
| 12:55.52 | nickbarnes | I created my link ID (nickbarnes) using one Google Account (nb@climatecode.org) but I do most Google stuff (GMail, etc) with another account (Nick.Barnes@gmail.com). This got sufficiently irritating that I deleted the nb@climatecode.org Google Account and added nb@climatecode.org as a secondary email address to the Nick.Barnes@gmail.com Google Account. |
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| 12:56.20 | nickbarnes | Now I can't log into the GSOC melange site, so it's gone from irritating to impossible. And of course the deadline for org apps is tomorrow. |
| 12:56.43 | jasonkit | Hello -- I have a quick query about the mentor org application form... |
| 12:56.54 | jasonkit | What is the "Backup Admin (Link ID)" field supposed to contain? |
| 12:56.59 | nickbarnes | (of course, if Google Accounts had a "merge accounts" feature this wouldn't have happened :-) |
| 12:57.37 | nickbarnes | jasonkit:your backup admin needs to sign up to the GSOC site. A "link ID" is a user ID on that site. |
| 12:57.51 | jasonkit | Aha - thanks Nick :-) |
| 13:03.06 | ssi|neil | nickbarnes: I have one of your Open Climate Code mugs in my office - great branding :) |
| 13:03.14 | ojwb | nickbarnes: i believe you'll need to get the melange devs to fix this in the database, but you might have to wait more than 5 minutes |
| 13:04.18 | nickbarnes | I can wait a while, but how should I raise it and track it? Via the SOC issues DB on googlecode? |
| 13:04.42 | ojwb | not sure what they prefer |
| 13:05.32 | ssi|neil | http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#melange_bugs |
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| 13:05.46 | ojwb | it's not exactly a melange bug though |
| 13:06.13 | ssi|neil | true, although it might point at an underlying bug |
| 13:06.45 | ojwb | i think melange just uses the main email address of the google account to identify it |
| 13:06.53 | ssi|neil | reminds me of the name@googlemail.com -> name@gmail.com Melange bug that surfaced for UK users last year |
| 13:07.00 | ojwb | i guess that might be a bug if there's a unique id in there |
| 13:07.09 | Mek | last year, and the year before, and the year before... |
| 13:07.32 | ojwb | Mek: not quite, UK users could only have googlemail until recently |
| 13:07.45 | ojwb | someone claimed a trademark on gmail in the UK, or something |
| 13:07.45 | Mek | sure, but the problem has been there ever since melange first got used |
| 13:07.47 | ssi|neil | worse for UK users as they encouraged us all to switch about this time last year :) |
| 13:08.03 | Mek | before it was maybe not for uk users, but the problem was still there |
| 13:08.14 | ssi|neil | Mek: true |
| 13:08.26 | ssi|neil | lunch! |
| 13:08.28 | MatthewWilkes | ssi|neil: You actually switched? Why? |
| 13:08.59 | ssi|neil | MatthewWilkes: I didn't, but some of my mentors did - right before midterm evals were due in! |
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| 13:09.11 | MatthewWilkes | keke |
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| 13:14.27 | nickbarnes | I had a UK gmail account from very early on, before the googlemail nonsense. Encouraged friends who got @googlemail addresses to use @gmail, which worked fine. |
| 13:14.55 | nickbarnes | have submitted SOC issue 1111 http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1111 |
| 13:15.23 | nickbarnes | ssi|neil: glad you like the mug; where did you get it? |
| 13:15.48 | gevaerts | I know I had similar issues with my android phone. My impression is that the entire google account thing is a bit fragile |
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| 13:19.55 | ojwb | you couldn't send out mail from gmail with @gmail.com as the sender though |
| 13:20.33 | ojwb | or at least I failed to find the trick when i looked |
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| 13:51.58 | ssi|neil | nickbarnes: got the mug at a JISC workshop for Rapid Innovation projects that we ran |
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| 14:21.13 | nickbarnes | ssi|neil: OK. We took a load to a Software Sustainability workshop at JISC. |
| 14:21.32 | ssi|neil | nickbarnes: that's the one |
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| 14:41.03 | nickbarnes | ssi|neil: so what are you doing on #gsoc? |
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| 14:46.58 | ssi|neil | nickbarnes: as the SSI (software.ac.uk) we're hoping to act as an umbrella mentoring org for some of the smaller open source research software projects, handling a lot of the admin for them and leaving them to concentrate on the ideas. We did this as OMII-UK in the last three GSoCs. |
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| 14:48.47 | nickbarnes | ssi|neil: cool. If we had known we would have spoken to you already. Here's our draft application; http://code.google.com/p/ccc-gistemp/w/edit/GSoCOrgApp |
| 14:51.36 | nickbarnes | please feel free to comment. |
| 14:53.04 | ssi|neil | nickbarnes: thanks - I'll contact you by email |
| 14:53.34 | ssi|neil | though I get a : Forbidden |
| 14:53.34 | ssi|neil | Your client does not have permission to get URL /p/ccc-gistemp/w/edit/GSoCOrgApp from this server. :) |
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| 15:25.15 | nickbarnes | oh bum. |
| 15:25.21 | nickbarnes | I'll email it to you. |
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| 15:51.04 | nickbarnes | ssi|neil: have emailed it. |
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| 15:52.14 | drj11 | nickbarnes ssi|neil: I'm pretty sure http://code.google.com/p/ccc-gistemp/wiki/GSoCOrgApp works. |
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| 15:58.08 | greedo | does anyone know what projects debian has submitted for gsoc? |
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| 15:59.58 | catalinb | !anyone |
| 15:59.58 | socinfo | catalinb: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 16:00.44 | catalinb | didn't mean to be rude :) |
| 16:03.01 | kai | also see.. |
| 16:03.07 | kai | !timeline |
| 16:03.07 | socinfo | kai: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz |
| 16:03.50 | mayanks43 | or try this : http://goo.gl/IqNjw ;) |
| 16:04.45 | gevaerts | mayanks43: I think it's a good idea to point to unofficial information if people explicitely ask for unofficial information :) |
| 16:05.01 | mayanks43 | ok will keep in mind :) |
| 16:05.15 | gevaerts | I may be alone with that opinion of course |
| 16:08.36 | greedo | catalinb: I was looking for a listing of projects, they mentioned on the debian mailing list that projects were submitted |
| 16:10.00 | catalinb | greedo: http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2011/Applying |
| 16:10.31 | gevaerts | *ideas* may be ready (or should be ready very soon anyway), but those are not projects yet |
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| 18:08.32 | gjoseph | hi there. i was filling in the mentoring org app form. while waiting for my backup admin to send me his linkId, i accidentally hit the enter key (I'd explain why, you'd mock me) .. and for some reason I can't fathom, instead of getting the form back with my data and a red "missing field" message, i got a completely empty form :( |
| 18:08.54 | HerraBRE | does the back button resurrect it? |
| 18:08.56 | gjoseph | (and somehow my browser's back button was greyed out, while the forward button was activeâ¦) |
| 18:09.00 | HerraBRE | ugh |
| 18:09.04 | gjoseph | i guess that answers it :D |
| 18:09.31 | gjoseph | i was hoping it still had been submitted somehow/somewhere... |
| 18:10.07 | gjoseph | every single time i fill a long online form i think to myself "god i should really write this up in a textpad before filling the actual form". and i never do. hhhhggghhh |
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| 18:10.20 | HerraBRE | Don't take my ugh as final, I've never done this before, but that sounds scary. Glad I just copied mine to a text file a few moments ago. :) |
| 18:10.28 | |Kev| | gangil: Let's call it a learning experience :) |
| 18:11.23 | |Kev| | I don't *believe* that form gets autosaved, so if it's Back you hit, and your browser doesn't helpfully refill it on Forward, I suspect you're OOL. You could ask the Melange guys, though. |
| 18:12.05 | m1k3y | This is one situation I can imagine where a keylogger would actually be helpful |
| 18:12.56 | m1k3y | that is, if it sends your keystrokes data to you rather than to somebody else |
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| 18:13.02 | gjoseph | ya :/ |
| 18:14.04 | m1k3y | gjoseph: if you dont mind me asking, what org are you representing? |
| 18:14.10 | gjoseph | Magnolia CMS |
| 18:14.43 | gjoseph | why ?:) â¦you ? |
| 18:14.48 | gjoseph | i mean - which are you |
| 18:15.01 | m1k3y | im a student :) |
| 18:15.33 | m1k3y | hmm, i'd never heard about magnolia before |
| 18:15.37 | m1k3y | checks it out |
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| 18:15.49 | gjoseph | hehe |
| 18:16.03 | HerraBRE | gjoseph: recruiting already, good job! ;) |
| 18:16.48 | gjoseph | so you're gonna be like - what, these guys can't even use a browser without borking a form!? ⦠yeah.. not my day⦠i might even wait tomorrow before trying again :| |
| 18:17.16 | |Kev| | To be fair, you didn't break the form, the form broke you :) |
| 18:17.26 | HerraBRE | Everyone borks forms, blame melange for breaking your back button. ;) |
| 18:18.17 | m1k3y | to be honest, i could never figure out what kind of sorcery web pages use to disable the back button |
| 18:18.23 | m1k3y | especially forms |
| 18:18.43 | m1k3y | because the back button almost always seems to be disabled when you need them the most |
| 18:18.49 | m1k3y | jeez, its 2011 |
| 18:19.09 | gjoseph | i'm not even sure when the focus was when i hit the enter key - i THOUGHT it was in a chat window⦠when will someone invent window-focusing UIs that focus the window you're LOOKING at. |
| 18:19.21 | gjoseph | s/when/where |
| 18:20.27 | m1k3y | on OS X, focus follows the mouse pointer |
| 18:20.58 | m1k3y | so you can scroll in a background window without focussing it first |
| 18:21.22 | gjoseph | that doesn't change the focus of text fields though ... |
| 18:21.34 | gjoseph | besides that would feel like reading something with your finger ... |
| 18:22.16 | Catfish_Man | focus follows mouse is more of a linux thing than an osx thing |
| 18:22.17 | |Kev| | And who doesn't do that? |
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| 18:22.30 | Catfish_Man | scrolling background windows is just delivering events to non-main non-key views |
| 18:26.45 | gjoseph | well. screw that, i'm going home. |
| 18:26.48 | gjoseph | will resubmit later. |
| 18:26.51 | gjoseph | thanks for the support guys |
| 18:27.03 | HerraBRE | good luck |
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| 18:43.06 | HerraBRE | Silly FAQ maybe: For mentoring orgs, is the student application template a blob of text sent to Google, or can it be a link to an online form? |
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| 18:44.41 | |Kev| | Evening Carols. |
| 18:44.47 | carols | hi |Kev| |
| 18:44.49 | carols | how you doing? |
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| 18:46.19 | trch | In http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/mentoragmt it is said that âIf you are an [...] organization residing outside the United States, you must submit a Foreign Certification form to Google. [...] Application will not be considered complete until Google has received [...]â. Must this be sent before Friday 11:00PM or am I right to think it will requested later in the process? |
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| 18:46.45 | |Kev| | carols: I'm one day away from a weekend. I'd say that was pretty good :) |
| 18:46.58 | carols | |Kev|: I agree! Here's to that. :-) |
| 18:47.05 | carols | toasts some apple cider :-) |
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| 18:59.56 | HerraBRE | would love to hear the answer to trch's question too |
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| 19:06.45 | dberkholz | org app submitted. |
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| 19:07.18 | dberkholz | marcheu: did you submit for xorg already? |
| 19:08.01 | dberkholz | marcheu: heh, guess not since i don't see myself as backup admin for anyone |
| 19:08.22 | marcheu | dberkholz: I did. you can only put one back admin in the default form, so I put Bart. I'll add you later |
| 19:08.27 | marcheu | (if we are accepted) |
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| 19:08.29 | dberkholz | ah, ok. |
| 19:08.31 | marcheu | backup* |
| 19:08.42 | marcheu | since I had Bart's link id handy |
| 19:08.51 | dberkholz | mine is very hard to guess. =P |
| 19:09.55 | dberkholz | carols: i apologize in advance for writing so much. |
| 19:10.15 | carols | dberkholz: in your org app? |
| 19:10.19 | dberkholz | yep |
| 19:11.04 | HerraBRE | Is there a sample somewhere of what a decent org app looks like? I always have a hard time guageing how much to type into these things. |
| 19:11.21 | carols | dberkholz: well, i enjoy reading all of the apps. its one of the highlights of the year for me. so no apology necessary :-) |
| 19:11.39 | dberkholz | carols: ah, i see. it would be really interesting to hear from you what kinds of things the best orgs do |
| 19:12.22 | psychon | oh, xorg participates in gsoc? |
| 19:12.24 | dberkholz | anything that people could use to improve how things are run |
| 19:12.30 | carols | HerraBRE: you might want to read the mentor manual. http://www.booki.cc/gsoc-mentoring/_v/1.0/org-application/ |
| 19:12.46 | marcheu | psychon: we participated in the last 5 years, and are applying again yes |
| 19:13.05 | carols | dberkholz: the ideas page. i love reading the whole app and we get a lot out of it, but the best orgs submit the best ideas lists. |
| 19:13.09 | psychon | I guess I really should have looked into the list of orgs for the last few years.... |
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| 19:14.19 | HerraBRE | carols: thanks. It's helpful, but somehow I always prefer to see samples. :-) It's like code snippets vs. prose. |
| 19:15.44 | carols | HerraBRE: you have a wealth of information on the orgs that have participated in the past on Melange including their ideas pages. i would recommend you replicate themes from the ideas pages of accepted orgs from previous years. |
| 19:15.57 | nano- | Should the student application template be pasted into melange? I've only submited a link to our wiki. |
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| 19:16.24 | carols | nano-: no, it doesn't need to be in melange, but when you create your homepage on melange you'll need to enter it if you haven't in your app |
| 19:17.00 | |Kev| | I still need to work with bear on our template for this year. |
| 19:17.01 | nano- | Ok.. so that's mostly interesting after the org has been accepted then? |
| 19:17.06 | |Kev| | Well remembered, thanks. |
| 19:17.20 | HerraBRE | carols: that's true, thanks! It's exactly what spawned my question earlier though, which I think you just missed by joining a second too late. It seems some orgs have online forms for students to apply - can the student application template be a form hosted by the org, or should it be a text blog pasted into the application form? |
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| 19:17.48 | HerraBRE | s/blog/blob/ |
| 19:18.11 | carols | HerraBRE: opt for the text block in melange. the students are applying in melange, you should have all your info in there ready to go for when their app window opens. |
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| 19:18.28 | HerraBRE | OK, cool. :) |
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| 19:18.39 | |Kev| | You can always write a HOWTO guide to the form on your site if you want. |
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| 19:20.38 | dirakx | Hi all is there a list somewhere with the already sent applications by orgs ? |
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| 19:29.05 | evildho | carols: we have someone interested in one of our ideas; he has a bsc and is doing a certificate program in cs -- does that count as "student"? |
| 19:29.18 | evildho | or is it only degree programs |
| 19:29.39 | carols | evildho: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#who |
| 19:30.47 | evildho | carols: Unfortunately that means very little to me; I never went to college, so I don't really know whether the terminology there means yes or no. |
| 19:31.11 | evildho | :\ |
| 19:31.27 | Kraytul_ | if the certification process is accredited in some way, then probably |
| 19:31.32 | |Kev| | Will his university write a letter to Google saying he's a student there? |
| 19:31.46 | |Kev| | And that it's an accredited course, if so, job done. |
| 19:32.46 | |Kev| | (I would guess not, btw, for a 'certificate program', but I have no idea what that means in different countries. |
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| 19:37.15 | dirakx | or were can i check a list of orgs that already sent their applications. |
| 19:38.06 | dhaun | dirakx: there is no such list |
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| 19:38.50 | m1k3y | evildho: seems like he is eligible |
| 19:38.52 | dirakx | dhaun: :(..i guess i have to check only what it says on List My Organization Applications |
| 19:38.56 | dirakx | thanks. |
| 19:39.02 | m1k3y | evildho: google uses the most dilute definition of student |
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| 19:39.14 | m1k3y | evildho: so i think its good |
| 19:39.18 | sumitk | carols: ping |
| 19:39.25 | carols | sumitk: pong |
| 19:39.30 | dhaun | dirakx: what is it you're trying to find out? |
| 19:39.39 | sumitk | carols: Hi! are you still at drupalcon? |
| 19:39.53 | carols | sumitk: nope, came back yesterday. i've got too much to do here in mtv :-/ |
| 19:39.56 | dirakx | dhaun: i want to confirm that our application is already sent. |
| 19:39.58 | sumitk | carols: I am one of admins for drupal org and I just submitted our app |
| 19:40.13 | carols | sumitk: great, thanks. i'd like to talk to you via email, actually |
| 19:40.16 | sumitk | carols: aah missed you .... I heard about you in late evening :) |
| 19:40.29 | sumitk | carols: sure PM? |
| 19:40.33 | carols | sumitk: yeah, thanks |
| 19:40.47 | dhaun | dirakx: if it's listed under "List My Organization Applications", then it's sent |
| 19:41.11 | dirakx | dhaun: ok thanks!. |
| 19:42.34 | evildho | Thanks for the clarification |
| 19:46.13 | sumitk | carols: can you help me with format of Backup Admin (Link ID): on app submission page |
| 19:46.29 | carols | sumitk: it's the link ID from melange of another admin for your org |
| 19:47.01 | sumitk | okay got it |
| 19:47.02 | sumitk | thanks |
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| 20:36.12 | mblanco | Hi, I am in the process to submitting the application to GSOC 2001, and I have doubts about what should I enter in the field "Organization Name". Should I enter there the name of the company I belong to, or the name of the Open Source Project whose development I am leading? |
| 20:36.40 | |Kev| | The name of the orginisation that's appying to GSoC. |
| 20:36.45 | |Kev| | Urgh. |
| 20:36.49 | |Kev| | *organisation. |
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| 20:38.55 | mblanco | But we have not created a formal organization to promote the Open Source Project, whose development we are engaged, and not all contributors belong to the same company. |
| 20:39.38 | |Kev| | It doesn't have to be a registered charity or anything. It's the group to whom students will be applying to do a project. |
| 20:39.41 | Triskelios | mblanco: you don't need a legal entity |
| 20:39.42 | dhaun | mblanco: a lot of "orgs" are in the same situation, actually :) |
| 20:39.48 | Triskelios | just... people |
| 20:40.06 | mblanco | Ok. Understood. Thanks! |
| 20:40.09 | |Kev| | Gnome, KDE, Python Software Foundation, XMPP Standards Foundation, Pidgin, Rockbox, whatever. |
| 20:41.43 | Triskelios | |Kev|: not great examples, those all are incorporated entities with the exception of Rockbox :P |
| 20:42.16 | davidL | Is it normal for the width of the text in the mentoring org. application to be changed to 40 characters after submitting? |
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| 20:42.48 | gevaerts | Triskelios: that means one of them *is* a great example :) |
| 20:42.56 | |Kev| | What gevaerts says :) |
| 20:43.20 | Michitux | davidL: I have asked me the same thing, but that means probably yes ;) |
| 20:43.36 | Triskelios | davidL: yes, with the exception of the template field |
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| 20:43.51 | Triskelios | and the description |
| 20:44.23 | Michitux | Triskelios: template filed? here just the description remained unchanged |
| 20:44.30 | davidL | ah. for me the only exception was the description. the width was changed in the template too |
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| 20:56.46 | Triskelios | sorry, you're right, that wraps too |
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| 21:16.27 | carols | serves tea and coffee |
| 21:17.07 | |Kev| | Got a spare Sprite? :) |
| 21:18.06 | gevaerts | gets some coffee |
| 21:20.36 | anth_x | thanks, carols, i was just finishing this cup. |
| 21:20.53 | carols | you're welcome anth_x |
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| 21:31.56 | socketguru | just idea/guideline |
| 21:33.20 | wolfb | hey carols :) |
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| 21:35.15 | socketguru | i have to hash the password and compare it with pass stored in /etc/shadows. |
| 21:35.53 | izibi | carols: if i want to use the gci creditcard in the android market, do i have to enter the adress that was on the letter? and will it be charged in US$ (to avoid the 3% fee)? |
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| 21:41.42 | jmichot | hi all, I try to send my mentoring application but I get this error "You cannot enter yourself here. |
| 21:41.42 | jmichot | Backup Admin (Link ID):" |
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| 21:41.56 | jmichot | any idea? |
| 21:42.04 | Triskelios | jmichot: who's your backup admin? |
| 21:42.17 | jmichot | what's that? |
| 21:42.25 | dhaun | jmichot: you're supposed to enter the link id of another person there |
| 21:42.34 | anth_r | everyone gets a link_id when you sign up with melange. |
| 21:42.35 | dhaun | a backup, in case you're not reachable |
| 21:43.39 | jmichot | I have my own but never receive a "backup" one ! |
| 21:43.59 | dhaun | jmichot: a second person, not just a second id |
| 21:44.22 | Triskelios | jmichot: you need another person in your group to register on melange |
| 21:44.31 | jmichot | ho, ok I anderstand! thx |
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| 21:47.23 | Michitux | hm, I have another question regarding "please list a larger, established GSoC organization [...] that can vouch for you" - do I have to decide for one org or can I also list two orgs? |
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| 21:48.35 | dhaun | Michitux: I can't imagine that it would hurt to have more references :) |
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| 21:51.57 | Michitux | dhaun: I've just wondered because of the "a" |
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| 22:07.55 | anth_x | is there any way to share the application in its current state? i'd like to get my backup admin to review it. |
| 22:09.49 | Triskelios | you can just submit it if you know it's going to be revised soon. some groups are editing the apps on wikis, etherpads, etc. prior to submission |
| 22:10.29 | anth_x | yeah, but there's nothing in melange to do it? |
| 22:11.34 | |Kev| | anth_x: The simple solution is to Save All in your browser of choice, zip and mail. |
| 22:11.46 | |Kev| | That's what we did. |
| 22:11.58 | anth_x | got it, thanks. |
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| 22:20.48 | wolfb | do we have to have an irc channel or is the requirement only to answer the question? |
| 22:21.14 | dberkholz | it would be good to just point to some other realtime chat if it exists |
| 22:21.22 | dberkholz | or say what the alternatives are |
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| 23:02.08 | cbmuser | hi, can anyone tell me how I can delete an application? |
| 23:02.32 | cbmuser | we have decided to coorperate with another project for GSoC, so we don't need a separate application |
| 23:03.41 | ojwb | cbmuser: i think you might have to ask them to remove it manually on #melange |
| 23:04.27 | ojwb | though replacing all the fields with "withdrawn" or similar will probably do the job |
| 23:06.13 | cbmuser | ojwb: thanks |
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| 23:55.06 | carols | serves some teacakes and sammichs |
| 23:55.09 | carols | quiet in here today |
| 23:55.21 | carols | i'm sure you're all working diligently on your org apps :-) |
| 23:55.35 | Catfish_Man | 'lo carols |
| 23:55.43 | carols | hey Catfish_Man, good to see you |
| 23:55.56 | Catfish_Man | likewise :) |
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| 23:58.15 | greeniekin | what time do org apps close? |
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| 23:58.46 | pygi | 23:00 UTC |
| 23:58.50 | pygi | why dont you read stuff? :p |
| 23:59.41 | greeniekin | pygi: I'm not an org and i was in here and curious. |
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| 23:59.50 | ojwb | carols: it's like the calm in the eye of a hurricane... |