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| 03:05.20 | summatusmentis | sfb: sorry, I wasn't at my computer, but yes, UMN TC |
| 03:05.32 | summatusmentis | sfb: I was accepted into their PhD program |
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| 03:24.20 | sfb | summatusmentis: Cool. |
| 03:24.26 | sfb | summatusmentis: I'm from the TC area too. |
| 03:24.38 | summatusmentis | I'm at school at the Morris campus currently |
| 03:24.55 | summatusmentis | but I was born and grew up (partially) in St. Paul |
| 03:25.02 | sfb | What area of StP? |
| 03:25.14 | summatusmentis | the west side |
| 03:25.32 | sfb | I grew up on the lower East Side. |
| 03:25.34 | sfb | What a small world. |
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| 03:26.02 | summatusmentis | small world indeed. Are you at the U currently? |
| 03:26.46 | summatusmentis | "r u @ teh u" >.> |
| 03:27.01 | sfb | Nah, I'm an old fart now. |
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| 03:27.34 | summatusmentis | heh, fair enough. |
| 03:27.41 | summatusmentis | can I ask what you do? |
| 03:30.27 | sfb | I manage software developers at Children's Hospitals in the corporate software area. |
| 03:30.36 | sfb | So ERP, HR, etc |
| 03:31.00 | sfb | In my "spare time" I'm a community "manager" unofficially for Ryzom Core. |
| 03:31.12 | sfb | (Which is what brings me to GSoC every year.) |
| 03:33.49 | summatusmentis | Children's Hospitals as in down by the Excel energy center? |
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| 03:49.36 | sfb | Yeah,that's one of the two hospitals. |
| 03:51.33 | sfb | We also have a bunch of clinics. |
| 03:51.45 | summatusmentis | ah |
| 03:51.54 | summatusmentis | I used to drive by that hospital every day |
| 03:52.15 | summatusmentis | can I pm you? |
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| 04:42.48 | sfb | summatusmentis: Yeah, sure. |
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| 04:45.03 | socinfo | LetterRip: "next" is Friday, March 18 - Mentoring organizations are announced |
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| 09:02.17 | xudifsd | Hi, I just read FAQ page, but have some question: should I submit some material to prove that my school is accredited? |
| 09:03.37 | kai | xudifsd: I'd worry about this once you're accepted and google asks for it |
| 09:04.26 | kai | I never had to submit anything beyond a proof that I was a student (and some tax stuff) |
| 09:05.24 | kai | of course if your university has five students and that's clear from the website, you might need to provide some proof ;) |
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| 09:07.14 | xudifsd | kai: oh , that's wouldn't be a problem, what i concerned is i am in china, maybe there are no English material |
| 09:08.35 | kai | xudifsd: I'm sure someone at google will know chinese |
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| 09:09.17 | xudifsd | kai: thanks |
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| 09:12.28 | thebolt | hi kai |
| 09:12.47 | xudifsd | kai: how could i prove i am a student? and via mail or e-mail? |
| 09:13.31 | ojwb | xudifsd: so long as you can, you don't need to worry about how unless you are accepted |
| 09:14.43 | kai | hey thebolt |
| 09:15.11 | xudifsd | ojwb: oh, maybe i concerned too much, i just want to make things clear to me, thanks anyway |
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| 09:19.21 | zaccone | good morning everybody :) |
| 09:20.29 | xudifsd | zaccone: good afternoon :) |
| 09:20.55 | kai | hey SRabbelier|Lappy |
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| 09:22.48 | SRabbelier|Lappy | kai: g'morning |
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| 09:24.06 | MatthewWilkes | morgen! |
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| 09:27.42 | thebolt | hi MatthewWilkes , SRabbelier|Lappy |
| 09:27.49 | thebolt | how're you doing this grey and dull day? |
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| 09:27.54 | |Kev| | Morning all. |
| 09:27.58 | BioNukularAntrax | morning |
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| 09:32.22 | MatthewWilkes | thebolt: Slept funny, back hurts :( You? |
| 09:33.58 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: busy working |
| 09:34.13 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: writing hopefully second-to-last kernel driver for a while |
| 09:34.23 | thebolt | except that I need to modify some existing code as well |
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| 09:39.30 | zaccone | |Kev|: hello |
| 09:40.26 | MatthewWilkes | thebolt: :P |
| 09:40.41 | MatthewWilkes | Should I get an iPad2? I'd put android on it, of course, but should I get one? |
| 09:40.55 | thebolt | you have an ipad? |
| 09:41.00 | MatthewWilkes | no |
| 09:41.05 | thebolt | hm, then i would consider it |
| 09:41.13 | |Kev| | Even with iOS on, I find mine astoundingly useful. |
| 09:41.15 | thebolt | i have the first.. and i have to admit it is useful |
| 09:41.16 | |Kev| | (1) |
| 09:41.27 | MatthewWilkes | :P |
| 09:41.41 | thebolt | didn't think i would whne i got it.. but well |
| 09:41.42 | MatthewWilkes | I'm going to be in england the day it is released, in a town with 2 apple stores |
| 09:42.05 | |Kev| | Poor thing :) |
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| 09:42.18 | |Kev| | (<-- Welsh, native English rivalry showing up) |
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| 09:42.59 | MatthewWilkes | |Kev|: Where abouts in wales are you from? |
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| 09:43.11 | |Kev| | MatthewWilkes: Bridgend (halfway between Cardiff and Swansea) |
| 09:43.47 | MatthewWilkes | Oh, come on, at least call them Caerdydd and Abertawe if you're going to start this welsh crap ;) |
| 09:43.59 | |Kev| | Pen-Y-Bont, then. |
| 09:44.02 | MatthewWilkes | :) |
| 09:44.54 | MatthewWilkes | I quite like welsh |
| 09:45.10 | |Kev| | I can't speak it, more than asking for fish and chips. |
| 09:45.30 | |Kev| | I keep meaning to learn, but it's a lower priority than 1000001 other things, so I doubt I ever will. |
| 09:45.34 | MatthewWilkes | Same here |
| 09:45.52 | MatthewWilkes | I can ask people if they speak it, say I'm learning it slowly, and say I'm from england |
| 09:45.54 | MatthewWilkes | that's about it |
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| 09:46.08 | MatthewWilkes | Oh, and I can say "I went to the supermarket" |
| 09:46.20 | MatthewWilkes | as archfarchnad is an amazing word |
| 09:47.04 | |Kev| | In aaaany case, my pad typically acts as a games console when I'm in bed most days, but is really handy as a device it's not painful to use mail and the web on when I'm about the place (especially trains etc.). |
| 09:47.16 | MatthewWilkes | iiinteresting |
| 09:47.28 | MatthewWilkes | Would you recommend I get a 3G one? I can tether wifi with my phone |
| 09:47.37 | |Kev| | And given that I'm trying this massochistic 'Standing Desk' thing starting yesterday, it's nice to grab the pad and go sit down to read and answer long mails. |
| 09:48.03 | |Kev| | No, I'd do what I did, save the money and grab a MyFi if you can't hotspot on your phone, and use the phoneif you can. |
| 09:48.13 | SRabbelier|Lappy | Anyone know any chromium devs? |
| 09:48.28 | |Kev| | Not I, sorry. |
| 09:51.58 | |Kev| | I find my MyFi's great for avoiding 15quid/night wifi when I'm staying in a TraveLodge because I'm visiting the office for a few days. |
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| 09:55.07 | |Kev| | MatthewWilkes: and I think sglodion (and sbwriel) beat archfarchnad :) |
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| 09:59.57 | MatthewWilkes | :) |
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| 11:40.23 | asn | Is there a place where all the bureaucratic documents required for a student application are concentrated? Like, proof of being a college student, etc. |
| 11:41.14 | MatthewWilkes | asn: You don't supply them with the application, it's later before you get the first payment |
| 11:41.28 | asn | Oh I see |
| 11:41.54 | ojwb | that reduces the number of documents to check by a factor of 3+ |
| 11:41.58 | asn | Still, is there a place with what I'll eventually need? Documents terrify me and I want to be prepared. |
| 11:42.19 | ojwb | the faq should say |
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| 11:43.00 | asn | Excellent, I found it. |
| 11:43.29 | asn | Thank you all. |
| 11:43.54 | ojwb | hmm, i was just wondering what that funny accent over an o which I'd never seen before was |
| 11:43.59 | ojwb | the character was '8' |
| 11:45.17 | |Kev| | Excellent. |
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| 12:33.42 | MatthewWilkes | FTR: apple, carrot and ginger juice is a little spicy (? germans: better translation for scharf) |
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| 13:01.46 | pygi | hi |
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| 13:10.38 | wolfb | MatthewWilkes: pungent |
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| 13:12.07 | wolfb | although I wouldn't call apple juice pungent, but then again I'm not a native English speaker |
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| 13:12.43 | aghisla | "scharf" is the best word for "scharfness" :) |
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| 13:13.41 | MatthewWilkes | wolfb: Not pungent, and we're talking about ginger, not apple |
| 13:16.34 | gevaerts | gingerly? :) |
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| 13:17.28 | thebolt | hey wolfb |
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| 13:59.02 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: scharf does sound weird for juice in any case :) |
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| 14:01.36 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: well, it was scharf :P |
| 14:01.53 | thebolt | :P |
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| 14:18.28 | kai | MatthewWilkes: but then I'd think spicy would be the translation |
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| 17:27.51 | s33k | hi... i'd like to know if students can apply as a group for a project |
| 17:28.14 | |Kev| | No. |
| 17:28.25 | |Kev| | That's even in the FAQ, I think. |
| 17:28.29 | s33k | i'm working on developing the online version of emacs with my friend.... is it possible that the two of us could work on it? |
| 17:28.39 | |Kev| | Not as a group. |
| 17:28.57 | s33k | fine |
| 17:29.01 | |Kev| | You could apply to two seperate projects on the same code base, but they must be independent. |
| 17:29.24 | s33k | two separate projects in the sense? |
| 17:29.37 | |Kev| | You could each apply independently to GSoC. |
| 17:29.46 | |Kev| | On projects that do not depend on each other. |
| 17:29.59 | |Kev| | You cannot apply together on one two-person project. |
| 17:30.35 | s33k | okay |
| 17:30.47 | gevaerts | The main thing is that one student dropping out should not have adverse effects on any other student's project |
| 17:31.41 | s33k | okay |
| 17:31.56 | |Kev| | Or one student not being accepted, for that matter. |
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| 17:59.33 | aaaaa | carols:why are some entries in the chat log marked as <PROTECTED> ? what does that mean? |
| 17:59.59 | carols | aaaaa: i'm not sure, tbh. |
| 18:00.26 | dotnick | carols: having fun yet? :P |
| 18:00.32 | aaaaa | see the last few lines here: http://jbot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/20110314.html.gz |
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| 18:00.41 | carols | dotnick: always too much to do, but i love my job :-) |
| 18:01.31 | dotnick | :) |
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| 18:02.39 | carols | zaccone: were? you mean "are." |
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| 18:06.40 | gevaerts | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:10.47 | zaccone | carols: whatever :P |
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| 18:11.18 | carols | serves tea and coffee and goes back to reviewing org apps |
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| 18:13.17 | weez | hi all. I am thinking of applying for GSoC as a student. Is anyone around who could answer a couple of questions? |
| 18:13.46 | dhaun | weez: just ask - someone will surely jump in |
| 18:13.50 | |Kev| | Yes, but please ensure they're not in the FAQ first. |
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| 18:18.13 | weez | Does anyone know the usual rate of acceptance into the program? How rigorously should I continue to apply for other summer work after applying for GSoC? |
| 18:18.29 | aaaaa | !numapps |
| 18:18.30 | socinfo | aaaaa: "numapps" is 430 mentoring orgs applied this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
| 18:18.41 | aaaaa | so, about 1:3.5 |
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| 18:20.25 | weez | aaaaa, Thanks. That is exacly the information I wanted. |
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| 20:52.05 | Nightrose | carols: if you have time we still need a background bit from you for the submission - if you don't have time i'll write a sentence or two mentioning gsoc and code-in |
| 20:52.21 | carols | Nightrose: pm? |
| 20:52.34 | Nightrose | sure |
| 20:53.13 | gevaerts | thinks something is missing today... |
| 20:53.17 | gevaerts | Oh! |
| 20:53.28 | gevaerts | serves tea, coffee, and cookies |
| 20:54.33 | censorydep | noms while the nomming is good |
| 20:55.42 | carols | thanks gevaerts :-) |
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| 22:35.56 | LetterRip | this is like waiting for Christmas when you are a little kid |
| 22:37.29 | dotnick | the channel seems strangely quiet today |
| 22:37.39 | dotnick | i guess its calm before the storm |
| 22:38.17 | gevaerts | eats some more cookies |
| 22:38.29 | censorydep | suspects the storm has already started, it's just hidden behind the curtain at the moment. |
| 22:38.39 | scorche|sh | eats some satay-flavored instant noodles |
| 22:39.06 | dotnick | behind carols' curtain :) |
| 22:39.25 | scorche|sh | censorydep: it *is* a lot of work to go through so many applications ;) |
| 22:39.36 | carols | what scorche|sh said |
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| 22:41.39 | carols | goes back to the storm |
| 22:41.52 | gevaerts | gives carols some coffee to help with that |
| 22:42.04 | carols | thanks gevaerts :-) |
| 22:42.09 | gevaerts | Storms can't be handled without coffee! |
| 22:42.09 | scorche|sh | censorydep: plus, it is more than just reading the application then voting - there is research to be done about the org's history, their activity, how long they have been around, etc - now multiple all of that by hundreds and hundreds of orgs and factor in some really tough decisions |
| 22:44.43 | censorydep | thanks scorche|sh. |
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| 22:45.04 | censorydep | I know that gsoc takes a LOT more work than it appears to. :-) |
| 22:45.41 | scorche|sh | censorydep: ah - i didnt see that you worked for google - well either way, it probably still helps to inform the idlers ;) |
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| 22:46.28 | gevaerts | There are 430 applications. It takes a long time to even just *read* them all... |
| 22:46.44 | censorydep | no worries. ;-) Agreed on the context being useful. |
| 22:47.23 | gevaerts | It's a good thing the reading of student applications is more distributed :) |
| 22:47.34 | carols | scorche|sh: censorydep is a very good friend of mine. he sees all the running around tearing my hair out this time of year :-) |
| 22:49.00 | scorche|sh | looks at the google profile and doesnt think he has met censorydep |
| 22:49.57 | censorydep | likely not. I've not been involved in many free software or open source events. Although that may slowly start to change. |
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| 22:50.23 | scorche|sh | good - it is quite fun ;) |
| 22:50.32 | gevaerts | censorydep: be careful. Getting involved in those means meeting people like scorche|sh! |
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| 22:50.58 | scorche|sh | hides |
| 22:51.02 | censorydep | lol |
| 22:52.08 | carols | is trying to get censorydep more infected with open source :-) |
| 22:52.20 | gevaerts | breathes. He had forgotten that scorche|sh was an op here, but all seems to have ended well... |
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| 23:16.06 | LetterRip | carols - fortunately your hair appears to grow back by the gsoc conference <ducks> |
| 23:16.42 | carols | LetterRip: it is a fortunate thing since it needs redying so often :-) |
| 23:16.51 | LetterRip | heheh |
| 23:17.15 | carols | how are you, LetterRip? |
| 23:17.34 | LetterRip | good - already spending silly amounts of free time on gsoc and loving it :) |
| 23:17.51 | LetterRip | got a student who has contacted us really early with a project close to my heart |
| 23:18.08 | LetterRip | so we are discussing ideas |
| 23:18.15 | LetterRip | reviewing similar commercial projects |
| 23:18.17 | LetterRip | etc |
| 23:18.28 | carols | awesome! glad to hear it! |
| 23:18.34 | scorche|sh | LetterRip: yeah - i love it when prospecctive students contact the org early =) |
| 23:18.52 | wolfb | +1 to the student :) |
| 23:19.08 | LetterRip | yeah |
| 23:19.46 | scorche|sh | we are working with a few students who have come out and started communications too - +1 indeed |
| 23:19.50 | dberkholz | more like +5 |
| 23:20.11 | LetterRip | yeah i have three students i'm in contact with already |
| 23:20.22 | wolfb | wow, that's amazing! :) |
| 23:20.28 | wolfb | LetterRip: which org? |
| 23:20.32 | LetterRip | blender |
| 23:20.36 | eoc | hm, we also had a highly interested student today, but I cannot be sure that we get accepted as newcomer. how would you handle this case? the student is fully aware of us not being accepted, but it still feels odd to propose starter tasks if he's not going to be around with us |
| 23:20.42 | wolfb | aaah, nise :) |
| 23:20.58 | LetterRip | well i gave them all warnings that there is no garuntees we will even be accepted as an org etc |
| 23:21.01 | eoc | well, possibly not being accepted* to see it a tad more positive |
| 23:21.09 | wolfb | LetterRip: is Nathan involved with GSoC at all? |
| 23:21.14 | LetterRip | but if they are interested in developing a proposal i'd be happy to help |
| 23:21.14 | gevaerts | eoc: actually, *nobody* can be sure, and historically some high profile organisations have missed out a few times |
| 23:21.17 | scorche|sh | eoc: planning takes quite a bit of doing - work with them on that ;) |
| 23:21.33 | LetterRip | wolfb which Nathan - we have two or three on blender - probably nathan letwory? |
| 23:21.35 | LetterRip | jesterking |
| 23:21.40 | scorche|sh | indeed - as long as the students are fully aware that the org may not be accepted, it is all fine |
| 23:21.49 | wolfb | LetterRip: jesterking :) |
| 23:22.11 | LetterRip | wolfb - yeppers |
| 23:22.37 | wolfb | cool! :) It's been almost a year since I saw him last |
| 23:22.52 | eoc | hm, thanks for the input, feeling a bit better now (-. |
| 23:23.03 | LetterRip | he hangs out in #blendercoders and many other irc channels lots of time |
| 23:23.55 | wolfb | LetterRip: I can imagine, I was talking physically |
| 23:24.07 | LetterRip | right |
| 23:24.15 | LetterRip | wolfb - what project are you related with? |
| 23:24.24 | LetterRip | i'm guessing the database mysql? |
| 23:24.25 | wolfb | I'm with OSGeo and mlmmj |
| 23:24.30 | LetterRip | ah ok |
| 23:24.39 | LetterRip | he works with lots of different projects |
| 23:25.01 | wolfb | but I met jesterking when we were both working on the Linux Aktivvaatori, a LUG |
| 23:25.52 | wolfb | met him through a common friend, before he got involved with blender actually. It's nice to see that our paths have converged to GSoC :) |
| 23:26.08 | LetterRip | heh |
| 23:27.43 | David_Honeynet | LetterRip: we also have some early motivated students. we try to support them developing ideas and getting familiar with the org/tools/processes/etc but at the same time make sure that they understand we all need to wait for Friday |
| 23:28.00 | LetterRip | David_Honeynet: yep same here |
| 23:28.01 | David_Honeynet | but agree, nice to have enthusiastic early starters :) |
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| 23:28.15 | LetterRip | well also these are topics on my todo list anyway |
| 23:28.31 | wolfb | feel a bit envious about the popular students of LetterRip and others |
| 23:28.36 | LetterRip | heh |
| 23:28.47 | wolfb | I also want early students :D |
| 23:29.01 | David_Honeynet | and people can always submit patches, features requests anyway, doesn't need to be explicitly for gsoc ;-) |
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| 23:29.12 | LetterRip | David_Honeynet: yeppers |
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| 23:35.09 | carols | David_Honeynet: pm? |
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| 23:55.01 | carols | have a nice day/night all |
| 23:55.11 | carols | signs off |
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