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| 00:11.17 | ps_jinx | i am not able to see list of participating organizations but it was visible yesterday ? |
| 00:11.20 | ps_jinx | http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7148/screenshotlistallaccept.png |
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| 00:13.41 | ThFabba | Works here. Accidentally turned off JavaScript, maybe? |
| 00:16.31 | ps_jinx | ok it worked in firefox |
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| 00:17.07 | ps_jinx | I have not disabled js .. other sites which need js are working well in google chrom e |
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| 00:23.26 | ojwb | ps_jinx: a few people have reported issues with the org list loading |
| 00:23.38 | ps_jinx | okay |
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| 00:23.46 | ojwb | it usually takes several seconds - i guess if the server is busy it may time out |
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| 00:23.53 | tigreton | oh, forgot mirc :( |
| 00:23.58 | mdoshayan | socinfo: next |
| 00:23.58 | socinfo | mdoshayan: "next" is March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
| 00:24.12 | ojwb | it runs on appengine, which has some awkward limitations for what melange wants to do, apparently |
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| 00:26.03 | tigreton | bye bye :) |
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| 01:06.32 | dberkholz | it would be really nice if we could somehow get stats on how many people visited our gsoc pages |
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| 01:08.03 | wtachi | I skip the gsoc pages and go right to the ideas page |
| 01:08.26 | dberkholz | i'm sure they could manage click-outs |
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| 01:14.26 | LetterRip | is it a known problem that some folks can't log in right now, someone trying to sign up as mentor stated 'btw I've been trying for a couple of days to apply as a mentor, but all I get is a notice of some upcomming site upgrade..' |
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| 01:15.01 | dberkholz | LetterRip: yes, it's disabled until they push new interface code later this week |
| 01:15.11 | LetterRip | ok |
| 01:15.13 | dberkholz | it was posted to the mentors mailing list |
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| 01:17.19 | philogb | Hi All I hope you're well, I'm an administrator of a selected organization and was wondering how can I know the number of slots available we have for students? |
| 01:17.51 | LetterRip | k thanks |
| 01:18.01 | LetterRip | dberkholz: hrmm i must have overlooked it |
| 01:18.04 | LetterRip | or forgot already |
| 01:18.14 | LetterRip | philogb: you won't |
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| 01:18.21 | LetterRip | till after all proposals are ranked |
| 01:18.28 | LetterRip | and then the slots are announced |
| 01:18.39 | dberkholz | philogb: you will request the number you want and will get either that number or a smaller one determined partially by the number of applications you get |
| 01:19.04 | dberkholz | philogb: you can even fill in the request now, it's on your org profile |
| 01:20.01 | philogb | oh great, thanks LetterRip and dberkholz for your information :) |
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| 01:46.42 | xJapx | !timeline |
| 01:46.43 | socinfo | xJapx: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz |
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| 02:11.07 | sentientwaffle | Is the age requirement for entering Google Summer of Code still 18? |
| 02:12.14 | ojwb | yes |
| 02:12.24 | ojwb | !eligible |
| 02:12.24 | socinfo | ojwb: "eligible" is Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv (text version at http://goo.gl/ImfNT) |
| 02:12.28 | sentientwaffle | Is there a |
| 02:12.37 | ojwb | that summarises the requirements well |
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| 02:13.27 | sentientwaffle | So there are no exceptions for *almost* 18? |
| 02:15.05 | ojwb | no |
| 02:15.07 | hypatia | sentientwaffle: it's a legal thing, i've never heard of an exception being made :( |
| 02:15.23 | ojwb | I think it's because it's structured as employment, technically |
| 02:15.47 | ojwb | glad we could help... |
| 02:15.49 | hypatia | yeah, the paperwork to hire minors is not so minor, from what i hear :) |
| 02:15.51 | hypatia | hehe |
| 02:16.20 | ojwb | they'd be wanting exceptions for almost almost 18 next |
| 02:16.52 | ojwb | there was someone 5 days late for the org submission deadline, hoping for an exception |
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| 02:18.06 | amstan | oh man.. it must suck if you're born in april 24 |
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| 02:21.34 | ojwb | any deadline has that effect |
| 02:21.46 | ojwb | it sucks if you submitted your application a second too late |
| 02:21.57 | ojwb | but if you stretch the deadline, there's still a cutoff |
| 02:22.44 | hypatia | yeah, and any "ask real nice" kinda exceptions just lead to favoritism and other badness |
| 02:23.11 | ojwb | hypatia: so true, except when it's me that's asking |
| 02:23.24 | hypatia | ojwb: lol |
| 02:23.32 | thebolt | :) |
| 02:23.36 | hypatia | we're all equal, but some ojwbs are more equal than others? |
| 02:24.02 | ojwb | well, you're all equal |
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| 03:29.14 | CrawfordComeaux | What's the difference between having scoring diabled/enabled on an org's profile? |
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| 03:32.13 | wtachi | CrawfordComeaux: I think it determines whether mentors can upvote/downvote students, or whether only admins choose a score |
| 03:32.16 | wtachi | I'm just a student though |
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| 03:33.06 | wtachi | s/students/proposals/ |
| 03:33.11 | ojwb | yes, that's right |
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| 03:33.39 | ojwb | some orgs find the scoring system doesn't work for them, so it can be disabled for mentors (new this year) |
| 03:33.50 | jasebo | :-) |
| 03:33.52 | ojwb | so you rank externally and an admin sets the ranks |
| 03:34.52 | CrawfordComeaux | Ah ok. |
| 03:35.23 | CrawfordComeaux | Think we'll allow it for now. If we have a problem with a mentor, we'll either correct them or replace them :) |
| 03:35.24 | CrawfordComeaux | Thanks! |
| 03:36.02 | jasebo | CrawfordComeaux, the problem we find is that different mentors rank in different ways. Some will rank an excellent application +3, while others rank the +1 for an excellent one |
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| 03:36.19 | dberkholz | you have to set standards at the beginning |
| 03:36.26 | jasebo | make sure everyone understands the standards :-) |
| 03:36.28 | ojwb | and if you have 20 proposals, many mentors will only score a handful |
| 03:36.45 | dberkholz | yeah, that is a really frustrating problem |
| 03:36.56 | ojwb | it's wise to make it clear that the admins have the power to override too |
| 03:37.03 | CrawfordComeaux | Good to know! We'll establish standards tomorrow. |
| 03:37.04 | dberkholz | whoever runs through everything first has a disproportionately large impact on what gets read the most later on |
| 03:37.12 | CrawfordComeaux | ah... |
| 03:37.36 | jasebo | it all depends on your community :-) |
| 03:37.46 | ojwb | it's usually pretty clear what the top proposals are and what the dross is |
| 03:37.56 | dberkholz | the tough part is everything in between |
| 03:37.57 | ojwb | it's the stuff in the middle which is harder to sort out |
| 03:38.20 | CrawfordComeaux | Perhaps what we'll do is disable it & then open it up to mentors for a brief period after internal scoring. |
| 03:38.23 | ojwb | and then you get the fun of who is up for mentoring what |
| 03:38.47 | dberkholz | we pre-assign mentors to ideas, so that's not as big of a problem for us |
| 03:38.51 | ojwb | dberkholz: I guess gentoo get quite a lot of proposals? |
| 03:39.01 | dberkholz | ojwb: something like 60â70 last year |
| 03:39.09 | ojwb | yeah |
| 03:39.15 | dberkholz | for ~20 slots |
| 03:39.22 | ojwb | that's too many to really expect people to read through all of them |
| 03:39.38 | ojwb | if you get a dozen or so, it's more reasonable |
| 03:39.52 | dberkholz | i ask people to spend somewhere from 5-15 minutes a piece, and not to score strongly if they don't really understand it |
| 03:40.04 | CrawfordComeaux | Slots restricts number of proposals you can accept or number that can be submitted? |
| 03:40.10 | ojwb | accept |
| 03:40.15 | CrawfordComeaux | ok cool |
| 03:40.21 | ojwb | there's no limit on how many can be submitted to you |
| 03:40.27 | ojwb | each student can submit up to 20 |
| 03:40.34 | ojwb | though that's just a sanity cap |
| 03:40.42 | ojwb | the average is under 2 each |
| 03:40.43 | dberkholz | i suspect there's serious diminishing returns though |
| 03:40.51 | ojwb | definitely |
| 03:40.51 | dberkholz | i haven't run the numbers yet but i think i have them here |
| 03:41.25 | dberkholz | in fact, i bet there's negative returns, just like job applications |
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| 03:41.41 | dberkholz | the ones submitting a few are probably the best, and the ones spamming the whole place really are no good |
| 03:42.32 | CrawfordComeaux | Most of our mentors are based on the project ideas, so we'll be able to directly work with mentors easily to determine proposal feasibility/acceptability |
| 03:43.41 | chunmun | any one around from openwall ? |
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| 03:43.52 | ojwb | !anyone |
| 03:43.52 | socinfo | ojwb: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 03:43.55 | ojwb | chunmun: ^ |
| 03:45.55 | chunmun | ojwb: Thanks :) I just got an email reply from the org some 3 hours back, so was wondering if anyone is still around. dont think they ve an active irc (or I am yet to find the suitable one) |
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| 03:49.48 | ojwb | chunmun: i'd guess if they don't use irc for the project, they're less likely to be here |
| 03:50.30 | chunmun | good point, will ask them about alternate contact ways in my reply. |
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| 03:52.14 | ojwb | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/show/google/gsoc2011/openwall just shows email |
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| 03:54.15 | chunmun | yeah, I made use on another mail listed on their ideas twiki, guess will ve to continue on mails for the time being. |
| 03:54.28 | chunmun | s/use on/use of/ |
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| 04:05.11 | CrawfordComeaux | My issue with IRC is that most of the org works from laptops, so keeping persistent presence in the channel is difficult. Doesn't help that 2 out of 5 of us have never used IRC :P |
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| 04:10.21 | chunmun | CrawfordComeaux: yeah, I find web gui handy in such cases :) it makes life lot more easier for people new to irc. |
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| 04:15.45 | ojwb | a lot of people run an irc bouncer or proxy on a server somewhere |
| 04:16.05 | ojwb | then you can sleep you laptop, and reconnect later and see the backscroll still |
| 04:16.34 | ojwb | of course you need a server |
| 04:17.17 | CrawfordComeaux | Server I've got...just not familiar with what I should be installing |
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| 04:17.48 | ojwb | dircproxy is one |
| 04:17.58 | chunmun | CrawfordComeaux: http://irssi.org/documentation/proxy thats my personal choice |
| 04:18.00 | ojwb | not sure what the best option is - seems to work for me ok |
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| 04:18.19 | jayza | sup |
| 04:18.23 | ojwb | running a command line client inside screen is another approach |
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| 04:18.28 | jayza | are former google interns eligable for gsoc |
| 04:18.34 | chunmun | irssi +screen = bliss :) |
| 04:18.54 | chunmun | jayza: as long as you are a student, guess its fine. |
| 04:19.15 | kstar | I concur with chunmun, but I'm not an expert on the program., |
| 04:19.20 | jayza | I am graduating, but am applying ofr masters |
| 04:19.29 | jayza | i am currently a student |
| 04:19.32 | CrawfordComeaux | ideal setup is going to be easy to get IRC newbies using |
| 04:19.32 | ojwb | !eligible |
| 04:19.32 | socinfo | ojwb: "eligible" is Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv (text version at http://goo.gl/ImfNT) |
| 04:19.36 | ojwb | jayza: ^ |
| 04:19.46 | chunmun | waves to kstar |
| 04:19.47 | jayza | love the mirc bot |
| 04:19.52 | kstar | Hey chunmun |
| 04:20.37 | amstan | jayza: it's not mirc, it's in python |
| 04:20.42 | jayza | nice |
| 04:21.00 | jayza | how do you interface with irc in python |
| 04:21.11 | jayza | wait |
| 04:21.15 | jayza | i am going to google for this |
| 04:21.18 | chunmun | kstar: you still in apping or graduated to mentoring? :) |
| 04:21.23 | ojwb | it's supybot underneat |
| 04:21.34 | kstar | chunmun: Well, I guess I'm mentoring, although I'd have almost apped. |
| 04:21.53 | kstar | My visa does not allow me to do a GSoC, unless I make some crazy extra efforts. |
| 04:22.16 | amstan | jayza: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=twisted+irc+sample+bot |
| 04:23.07 | chunmun | kstar: ohk, I am back to doing masters this year, so trying another jab this year :) thought of mentoring in 09 but didnt follow through.. |
| 04:23.20 | kstar | Oh, okay. |
| 04:23.34 | kstar | BTW @ All Indian folk here -- do join #gsoc-india |
| 04:23.51 | chunmun | yeah, remember that :) and in now :P |
| 04:24.15 | kstar | chunmun: Yeah, I'm now kinda taking care of that channel when ajuonline is not around. |
| 04:24.36 | chunmun | yeah, he is busy working and travelling all over the place! |
| 04:24.52 | kstar | Now's the time when the channel peaks in activity, so I'm just trying to get people to know about it. |
| 04:25.25 | kstar | In fact, I have removed it from my autojoin list :-S |
| 04:26.15 | kstar | Temporarily removed a whole bunch of channels from autojoin. Now they're back. |
| 04:27.49 | ojwb | kstar: isn't it ##gsoc-india? |
| 04:28.01 | kstar | ojwb: Oh, maybe it is. |
| 04:28.19 | kstar | ojwb: Oh, I think it redirects there anyway. |
| 04:28.24 | ojwb | double hash meaning unofficial |
| 04:28.26 | ojwb | ah ok |
| 04:28.29 | kstar | doesn't understand IRC channels. |
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| 04:28.47 | ojwb | on freenode at least, there's a namespace concept for registered channels |
| 04:29.25 | ojwb | so you can't register #gsoc-<anything> unless you control #gsoc |
| 04:29.28 | ojwb | or something like that |
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| 04:36.29 | kstar | ojwb: Oh! Okay! |
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| 06:18.21 | vardhan | hi |
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| 06:19.02 | vardhan | neone on globus |
| 06:19.10 | vardhan | neone on globus |
| 06:19.13 | vardhan | neone on globus |
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| 06:21.34 | hypatia | !anyone > vardhan |
| 06:21.55 | hypatia | !anyone |
| 06:21.55 | socinfo | hypatia: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 06:22.10 | hypatia | vardhan: see above |
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| 06:25.39 | vardhan | thanx hypatia |
| 06:25.55 | kblin | hypatia: ah, thanks for the reminder |
| 06:26.12 | hypatia | kblin: what did i remind you of? |
| 06:26.15 | hypatia | !txt? :) |
| 06:27.08 | thebolt | hi kblin |
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| 06:29.19 | vardhan | @hypatia: der is hardly ne guy in that channel i.e. globus |
| 06:29.41 | ojwb | vardhan: well, there aren't likely to be more of them here |
| 06:29.46 | ojwb | and please don't use txt speak |
| 06:29.48 | vardhan | hmmm |
| 06:30.01 | hypatia | vardhan: then try their mailing list. |
| 06:30.33 | hypatia | vardhan: and keep in mind 1) that these are mostly or all volunteers, 2) that things are just getting started, and 3) that using txt speak makes you sound like a disrespectful idiot |
| 06:31.01 | kblin | hypatia: I wanted to look into making !factoid | user work |
| 06:31.13 | kblin | !when | kai |
| 06:31.43 | thebolt | kblin: how's your day? any progress with your bacterias? ;) |
| 06:31.47 | hypatia | kblin: maybe see what #ubuntu-* uses? |
| 06:31.57 | hypatia | kblin: ubbotu does that |
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| 06:33.13 | vardhan | ojwb: thanks |
| 06:33.36 | vardhan | ojwb: i will take care of that |
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| 06:35.56 | kblin | thebolt: not at work yet, no idea :) |
| 06:36.23 | thebolt | kblin: :) i just had to get out of "work".. too noisy |
| 06:36.39 | thebolt | damn construction work upstairs.. so now office is in starbucks for the next 4-5 hours |
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| 06:39.33 | kblin | thebolt: yeah, for my computational work that works, for biology that'd be a bit tricky |
| 06:40.30 | kblin | and probably illegal as well :) |
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| 06:41.08 | Doomhammer | so, this is a really stupid question, but as I understand it we submit student applications solely to google - so why do mentoring organizations publish an application format? shouldn't google publish a list of the information they want? |
| 06:41.40 | ojwb | Doomhammer: you submit it to google-melange.com in the format the org wants |
| 06:41.44 | ojwb | the org then review it |
| 06:41.47 | chunmun | Doomhammer: google is not looking at your application , orgs are |
| 06:42.21 | Doomhammer | that makes substantially more sense |
| 06:42.26 | kblin | actually google asks for stuff like address and phone number, but doesn't share that sort of information with the mentoring orgs |
| 06:42.40 | kblin | they need it to send the t-shirts |
| 06:42.44 | Doomhammer | :) |
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| 06:43.11 | ojwb | they also ask for a shipping address for the org, which puzzled me slightly |
| 06:43.33 | kblin | ojwb: I think melange just has one sign-up form |
| 06:43.35 | ojwb | perhaps melange just attaches two addressses to things |
| 06:43.37 | ojwb | yeah |
| 06:43.55 | ojwb | or perhaps one really large tshirt will arrive |
| 06:44.02 | kblin | hehe |
| 06:44.33 | kblin | we need to ask bradley kuhn from the SFC how many t-shirts he got |
| 06:44.43 | thebolt | hehe |
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| 06:45.24 | kblin | oh well, off to work I go |
| 06:45.47 | ojwb | hi ho! |
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| 07:46.20 | c-men | is it possible to submit multiple idea applications to a single org? If so, should it be done in a single application, or different applications? |
| 07:47.21 | c-men | !meeting |
| 07:47.21 | socinfo | c-men: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 07:48.08 | chunmun | c-men: yes, you can submit multiple ideas to a single org, each idea is a separate application |
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| 07:48.24 | c-men | thx |
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| 07:57.44 | nickbarnes | morning all |
| 08:00.13 | |Kev| | Urgh, already? :) |
| 08:00.16 | |Kev| | Morning. |
| 08:03.32 | thebolt | morning? rather afternoon ;) |
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| 08:03.53 | |Kev| | Nope, my clock says 8am, therefore it must be morning *everywhere*. |
| 08:04.15 | Doomhammer | Forget that, it's 2:04 AM -- a time which I deem "murder o'clock" |
| 08:05.20 | thebolt | 4:04 pm here ;) |
| 08:05.42 | devangshah | 1335 |
| 08:05.42 | thebolt | but many hours of work still left today |
| 08:05.44 | Doomhammer | man we really are from all over the place |
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| 08:34.51 | dan_w | hi all. when I log into melange, it lists the past gsoc years i have applied but does not list any of my old applications incl. accepted ones. is this normal? How can I view my old applications? |
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| 08:41.15 | chunmun | dan_w: for 2009 and later - > GSoc (year) -> list my student proposals |
| 08:41.30 | chunmun | 2008 and earlier - older gsoc sites |
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| 08:43.38 | dan_w | chunmun : thanks. Unfortunately I do not have that option. I also have a "create profile" button. I am logged in with my google account (of which I only have 1) so cannot figure this out |
| 08:44.35 | chunmun | dan_w: hmmm, head over to #melange I ll say. or come back here when more melange admins are around. |
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| 08:45.28 | dan_w | chunmun thankyou for the help! |
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| 12:30.51 | a127 | If I submit applications to org A & B, will they be notified that I have submitted to both, unless i) I tell them, or ii)I am selected for both? |
| 12:31.01 | |Kev| | No. |
| 12:31.11 | |Kev| | Or, well, possibly, maybe. |
| 12:31.16 | |Kev| | They won't be automatically told. |
| 12:31.24 | ojwb | they will if (ii) |
| 12:31.27 | |Kev| | There's no guarantee that the mentors won't discover it when chatting between themselves. |
| 12:31.31 | baer | but i would tell them |
| 12:31.44 | in3xes | :D |
| 12:31.45 | ojwb | there's really no harm in telling them |
| 12:31.59 | a127 | I mean would the admins have the facility of checking which applications have been submitted based on userid in melange |
| 12:31.59 | |Kev| | I don't see telling them as a bad thing, I can't see any situation in which it'd affect your chances of getting a project. |
| 12:32.00 | a127 | ? |
| 12:32.03 | ojwb | we realise many students will want a backup plan |
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| 12:32.28 | ojwb | as an admin, it's useful to know how many of your student may end up accepted elsewhere |
| 12:32.40 | |Kev| | It just gives the orgs more data about which students are most likely to accept their offers, and those are useful. |
| 12:32.41 | ojwb | so you know how many "spare" students to have lined up |
| 12:33.01 | ojwb | and to think about at what point to return slots instead |
| 12:33.11 | Nightrose | |Kev|: well if both orgs say "oh the other one will accept that student" he/she is screwed |
| 12:33.14 | a127 | ojwb: but, if both orgs think you may be accepted somewhere, both may take up alternate candidates? |
| 12:33.17 | Nightrose | so be explicit about it |
| 12:33.27 | |Kev| | Nightrose: I wouldn't have thought that'd happen, would it? |
| 12:33.33 | |Kev| | I certainly wouldn't do that without asking the other arg. |
| 12:33.34 | Nightrose | it does |
| 12:33.34 | |Kev| | *org. |
| 12:33.43 | Nightrose | me neither |
| 12:33.47 | Nightrose | but it does happen unfortunately |
| 12:33.49 | Nightrose | or did |
| 12:33.57 | a127 | thats why I was asking |
| 12:34.22 | ojwb | a127: I wouldn't choose a student on the basis that they might not get to take part in gsoc otherwise |
| 12:34.30 | chunmun | a127: orgs dont drop you off coz they think you ve other orgs, if your app is good, they will ask you |
| 12:34.36 | ojwb | that's got too many negatives in |
| 12:34.40 | ojwb | but yes |
| 12:34.47 | Nightrose | chunmun: hmm? we've certainly done that |
| 12:35.05 | Nightrose | we've of course talked to the other org |
| 12:35.17 | Nightrose | but it certainly helped us plan our other slots accordingly |
| 12:35.28 | ojwb | ok, but that's just resolving a conflict early really |
| 12:35.40 | chunmun | yeah |
| 12:36.14 | ojwb | which does happen a lot |
| 12:36.15 | Nightrose | it is not if both orgs know the students applied to both and don't talk to each other and the student is in the "maybe" part of proposals |
| 12:36.27 | Nightrose | anyway |
| 12:36.48 | Nightrose | a127: my suggestion: tell the orgs what you apply for |
| 12:36.55 | a127 | thanks for the info.. so basically while orgs cannot see my applications based on link id, it is advisable to tell them if I've applied to multiple orgs? |
| 12:37.15 | Nightrose | and make sure they talk to each other :D |
| 12:37.17 | Nightrose | yeah |
| 12:37.18 | ojwb | i'd say so |
| 12:37.20 | aghisla | i did tell both of them, two years ago |
| 12:37.27 | ojwb | it's certainly not good to lie if they ask |
| 12:37.46 | a127 | ojwb: If they explicitly ask, I would have told in any case |
| 12:37.57 | a127 | but otherwise, should the info be volunteered? |
| 12:38.31 | drt24 | yes |
| 12:38.39 | ojwb | yes, i think so |
| 12:38.54 | a127 | I'll do that then.. thx |
| 12:38.56 | a127 | also, do any other organisations conduct GSoC parallels like http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2010/04/26/gsoc-and-season-of-kde-2010/ ? |
| 12:39.03 | drt24 | be clear about everything upfront and then they won't get irritated if they find out by other means later |
| 12:39.26 | ojwb | there are a few similar things, though I think KDE's is probably the most major |
| 12:39.49 | aghisla | a127: gnome does too, at a small scale |
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| 12:40.50 | chunmun | a127: you can always volunteer with your fav org for your project even outside gsoc, even if they dont ve anything organised like that |
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| 12:41.45 | devangshah | can somebody pls tell me about the basic skill level projects in C/C++ in gsoc? which orgs offers such projects? |
| 12:41.48 | a127 | chunmun: for my college, it is the certificate or it didnt happen |
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| 12:42.08 | a127 | and all orgs wouldnt give certificates |
| 12:42.23 | Nightrose | a127: that's me btw ;-) if you have questions about SoK let me know |
| 12:42.31 | op_amp | If an organization gets only one or two application, then is their a chance that google might not allocate them a student at all? |
| 12:42.43 | thearchangel | a127: is it necessary to do a prject in ur college? |
| 12:42.54 | a127 | Nightrose: found that by your nick only .. |
| 12:42.59 | chunmun | a127: agreed that matters to some extent, but in the longer run your experience is a richer contribution to your cv |
| 12:42.59 | Nightrose | heh |
| 12:43.10 | Nightrose | i think fedora did something like that in the past |
| 12:43.14 | Nightrose | not sure if they do again |
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| 12:43.27 | Nightrose | also gnome has their outreach program for women |
| 12:43.33 | ankit_frenz2 | Who exactly decides which organisation gets how many students? |
| 12:43.46 | Nightrose | ankit_frenz2: people at google |
| 12:43.48 | chunmun | devangshah: in the list of orgs do a search for your choice of language |
| 12:43.55 | ankit_frenz2 | is it fully controlled by Google or the organisation has a role in it? |
| 12:44.05 | a127 | thearchangel: No, but most companies coming for campus placement ask for a certificate as proof, and the college does give some extra credit in the final project |
| 12:44.06 | Nightrose | they can say how many slots they want |
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| 12:44.18 | chunmun | remembers there was categorization by language in earlier soc s by some folks |
| 12:44.23 | thearchangel | a127: okay.. |
| 12:44.51 | ankit_frenz2 | a127: Even if you dont get a certificate still you can mention it in your CV |
| 12:44.54 | devangshah | chunmun: i have gone through it. but wondering if someone has already gone through it and wished to help. ;) i |
| 12:44.57 | thearchangel | a127: you can still update ur cv and give references of ur mentors |
| 12:45.02 | devangshah | 'll go through it |
| 12:45.06 | thearchangel | a127: thats pretty credible too |
| 12:45.21 | ojwb | op_amp: in past years, all orgs have got at least 2 slots (if they wanted them) |
| 12:45.44 | chunmun | ankit_frenz2: google allots a certain number to orgs, but sometimes orgs get some more seats in last moment if some other org got lesser applicants |
| 12:45.55 | op_amp | ojwb, ok. Thanks for the info. :) |
| 12:46.00 | a127 | College wont believe it even if my name is on the front page of the project, companies would accept the references though I guess |
| 12:46.23 | thearchangel | a127: ya..colleges suck in this |
| 12:46.42 | thearchangel | a127: ur cv would still stand nice though |
| 12:46.58 | ankit_frenz2 | chunmun: Thanks for the info |
| 12:47.03 | op_amp | a127, if u are in India, then trust me you can get certificate from some place by working for less than one week :). Focus on finding a good project, not certificate :) |
| 12:47.14 | thearchangel | op_amp: right |
| 12:47.32 | chunmun | a127: agreed with op_amp |
| 12:47.41 | dberkholz | darn, missed a127 |
| 12:47.51 | dberkholz | x.org also runs a "vacation of code" program |
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| 12:48.00 | dberkholz | Nightrose: for future reference ^^ |
| 12:48.02 | ojwb | what you can do will hopefully beat what someone says you can do |
| 12:48.10 | Nightrose | dberkholz: ah cool - didn't know |
| 12:48.12 | ojwb | if not, you probably don't want to work there |
| 12:48.22 | ojwb | since that's how they'll be selecting your coworkers |
| 12:48.24 | dberkholz | Nightrose: we call it vacation because we'll run it any time of year |
| 12:48.30 | Nightrose | ah ok |
| 12:48.37 | dberkholz | every once in a while, somebody even applies |
| 12:48.43 | Nightrose | to keep me sane i try to keep season of kde around gsoc |
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| 12:49.06 | dberkholz | http://www.x.org/wiki/XorgEVoC |
| 12:49.28 | dberkholz | ah, right. forgot the "endless" at the beginning. endless vacation of code. |
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| 12:49.29 | Nightrose | i'm flexible with the student's schedule though |
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| 12:49.48 | dberkholz | it's a bit of a specialist org, so we don't get nearly as much interest |
| 12:49.53 | Nightrose | yeah |
| 12:50.24 | Nightrose | we get a lot of interest but the ones sticking around are not so many |
| 12:50.35 | Nightrose | in the last years we had 1,4 and 8 successful projects |
| 12:50.42 | Nightrose | hope for 15 to 20 this year |
| 12:50.55 | dberkholz | Nightrose: the main idea is to fund any worthy students beyond our slot count, but we've had good luck getting all the slots we really needed for xorg |
| 12:51.06 | Nightrose | that's good |
| 12:51.10 | Nightrose | do you pay the student? |
| 12:51.19 | dberkholz | oh yeah |
| 12:51.24 | Nightrose | not bad |
| 12:51.31 | Nightrose | kde's "only" get shirts and certificates |
| 12:51.35 | Nightrose | plus some swag from google |
| 12:51.47 | dberkholz | heh. i don't think we do the shirts |
| 12:52.00 | dberkholz | fair trade-off there =) |
| 12:52.05 | Nightrose | you don't do tshirt? |
| 12:52.06 | Nightrose | OMG! |
| 12:52.23 | ojwb | dberkholz: well, no wonder hardly anyone applies |
| 12:52.28 | Nightrose | indeed |
| 12:52.29 | Nightrose | ;-) |
| 12:53.01 | dberkholz | i suppose we could have a decent one custom-made on demand. cafepress is the lose, though |
| 12:53.56 | Nightrose | yeah i ask our business manger to have them printed somewhere local around her |
| 12:54.03 | Nightrose | so she can check quality and so on |
| 12:54.36 | Nightrose | (or her interns) |
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| 12:54.52 | Nightrose | interns ftw :D |
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| 12:55.17 | chunmun | first rule of getting students/interns and me T-Shirt :D |
| 12:55.50 | ojwb | i still think we need gsocks |
| 12:55.59 | aghisla | +1 |
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| 12:56.05 | Nightrose | lol ojwb |
| 12:56.08 | Nightrose | totally |
| 12:56.17 | koda|work | gsocks ftw |
| 12:57.06 | redache | ww |
| 12:57.39 | ojwb | Nightrose: I figure they get one at the start, but only get the second if they pass at the end |
| 12:57.47 | Nightrose | rofl |
| 12:57.49 | Nightrose | nice |
| 12:57.59 | dberkholz | for some reason my blog gets a ton more views now than it used to. i wonder which planet got super popular. |
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| 12:58.13 | Nightrose | which are you on? |
| 12:58.16 | dberkholz | i'm up to like 30K views/post instead of 8K. |
| 12:58.21 | Nightrose | wow |
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| 12:58.45 | dberkholz | gentoo, freedesktop, floss foundations, another gentoo community one |
| 12:59.44 | dberkholz | maybe they're all bots. =) |
| 12:59.47 | Nightrose | hehe |
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| 13:00.01 | Nightrose | i get quite a lot when i post to planet ubuntu |
| 13:00.05 | dberkholz | whoever or whatever they are, they certainly don't comment much. |
| 13:00.05 | Nightrose | don't do that a lot though |
| 13:00.12 | Nightrose | kde is okish |
| 13:00.37 | |Kev| | I had about 600 hits to my blog last month. This is up nearly 100% :( |
| 13:00.39 | dberkholz | that many views, and a good post might get 10 comments |
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| 13:04.14 | ojwb | hmm, you're all too popular |
| 13:04.46 | ojwb | 63 for my latest post |
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| 13:06.19 | dberkholz | you need to get on some planets |
| 13:06.24 | dberkholz | nobody reads my blog directly |
| 13:06.32 | |Kev| | I am, that's the sad thing. |
| 13:06.41 | dberkholz | 90% of my traffic is through rss/atom feeds |
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| 13:06.50 | |Kev| | Although I do complete rss posts, so if anyone reads my stuff through the planets, ... |
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| 13:13.05 | dbs | |Kev| Thanks for doing that - I do the same. I also don't add click-through RSS feeds to my personal planet |
| 13:13.19 | dberkholz | yay, the old gsoc sites from pre-melange are back. |
| 13:13.25 | dberkholz | no more erasure of history |
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| 13:20.55 | dbs | I noticed NTP in 2010 had a student working on unit tests - any orgs willing to share experiences with having students flesh out test harnesses? We could use some help on that front to make our CI server work harder... |
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| 13:22.25 | pygi | hi |
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| 13:25.33 | dberkholz | dbs: ask harlan =) |
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| 13:29.04 | dbs | dberkholz: thanks ;) I saw the NTP GSoC 2010 report that harlan's student wrote, which prompted my interest. As this is our org's first in the GSoC, I thought unit tests might have been out of scope; now my interest is piqued |
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| 13:29.40 | dberkholz | they're code like anything else. it must take the right kind of student to want to write them, though |
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| 13:30.18 | dberkholz | tests and not the code that tests them, that is |
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| 13:31.28 | dbs | dberkholz: right-o. thanks again! |
| 13:32.11 | ojwb | you need to make sure they understand (or can be guided to understand) what the tests are trying to achieve |
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| 13:33.57 | dbs | ojwb: Gee, you mean "Help us find bugs _before_ sites adopt our code"? :) |
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| 13:34.34 | gevaerts | That's just silly! :) |
| 13:35.25 | ojwb | dbs: well, that's quite a high level requirement |
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| 13:36.36 | dbs | ojwb: i know, I was kdding. We would be able to direct a student towards much more focused areas, of course. |
| 13:36.47 | ojwb | I mean it's obvious to us what a good unit test looks like, and what test coverage means - if they didn't cover it at uni (yet, or sadly maybe at all, or maybe they aren't studying compsci), it may not be to them |
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| 13:43.09 | Xeli | !Next |
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| 13:48.23 | kodoque | At my uni, unit test are studied by grad student |
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| 13:51.10 | ojwb | kodoque: and version control by phd students? |
| 13:51.27 | in3xes | :D |
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| 13:53.02 | kodoque | :D |
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| 14:12.39 | ogai | Our project GridCalendar ( abbreviated as grical, AGPLv3 using intensively OpenStreetMap ) was not approved. I would like to know the reasons. Our ideas page is at http://code.grical.org/wiki/IdeasPage |
| 14:12.54 | |Kev| | !meeting |
| 14:12.54 | socinfo | |Kev|: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
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| 14:14.00 | |Kev| | (In case it wasn't clear, ogai: that was for you) |
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| 14:15.30 | Nisarg_Shah | when you say- it would be nice to talk about what you intend to do with the mentors.. where exactly do you do that? IRC of the particular organisation? |
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| 14:16.43 | |Kev| | Nisarg_Shah: Yes, or their mailing lists, or whatever other venue they suggest. |
| 14:16.45 | ogai | |Kev|: ok, thx |
| 14:18.43 | Nisarg_Shah | thank you |
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| 15:11.07 | koda|gsoc | is there any estimation for when the new melange gui is going to be online? :) |
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| 15:13.03 | ojwb | before 28th they said |
| 15:13.31 | koda|gsoc | thanks |
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| 15:19.01 | Karlik | what is estimated time of work per day (per week) while GSoC? |
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| 15:20.10 | chunmun | Karlik: afaik its 40 hrs/week expected :P |
| 15:20.11 | shadeslayer | Karlik: 40 hours per week |
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| 15:25.19 | ioggstream | hi all |
| 15:25.43 | Stylistica | hey :) |
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| 15:27.03 | gsoccidar2011 | I was told that there will be a meeting where feedback will be provided regarding gsoc org apps. Am I in the right place at the right time? How long will this meeting last? |
| 15:27.12 | ojwb | !meeting |
| 15:27.12 | socinfo | ojwb: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 15:27.23 | ojwb | it'll last until it's done i guess |
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| 15:27.34 | ojwb | or until carols has to be elsewhere |
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| 15:28.04 | ojwb | i think you're a bit early |
| 15:28.07 | gsoccidar2011 | Thanks. (it's been a while since I used irc; so I don't remember all the etiquette / commands.) |
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| 15:34.03 | koda|gsoc | generally what should an oraganization do when all students choose very few ideas? |
| 15:34.24 | koda|gsoc | eg many proposals on idea 1 and 3, none on 2, 4, 5... |
| 15:34.41 | pygi | pick one ? :P |
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| 15:35.15 | koda|gsoc | can't pick two for the same idea if they deal with different aspects of the project? |
| 15:35.26 | |Kev| | You can pick two identical projects if you want. |
| 15:35.32 | |Kev| | It's explicitly allowed by the FAQ. |
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| 15:36.03 | ojwb | koda|gsoc: move ideas 1 and 3 to the end of the list? |
| 15:36.14 | ojwb | it seems students tend to pick the earlier ones more |
| 15:36.15 | |Kev| | You can, of course, let the students know that there are many applications for a couple of ideas, and suggest they also apply for another as a fallback. |
| 15:36.34 | ojwb | you could indicate it on the ideas list even |
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| 15:37.09 | koda|gsoc | ah good idea |
| 15:37.13 | koda|gsoc | both of them |
| 15:37.17 | ojwb | shrink the text size of popular ideas |
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| 15:37.30 | ojwb | or make them paler and paler grey |
| 15:37.31 | koda|gsoc | i should think of a randomizer that moves the ideas in the list :p |
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| 15:39.18 | conner_bw | !meeting |
| 15:39.19 | socinfo | conner_bw: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
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| 15:41.21 | sumanah | so that's in about 20 minutes, right? |
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| 15:43.01 | Nightrose | yes |
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| 15:43.16 | SITZ | !prev |
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| 15:44.05 | abhinav | Hi all |
| 15:44.24 | abhinav | How can i contact the mentors of any organization? |
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| 15:44.38 | gsoccidar2011 | I wonder what type of feedback one should expect. Will feedback regarding specific orgs be available? |
| 15:44.56 | |Kev| | gsoccidar2011: It will, if they ask for it. |
| 15:44.56 | masquerade | abhinav: depends on the organization. Visit their pages directly |
| 15:44.58 | irfan_q | @abhinav Go to their web site, there should be contact info |
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| 15:45.12 | abhinav | hmm.....ok thanks! |
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| 15:45.47 | abhinav | Anyone here from MediaWiki?? |
| 15:45.47 | gsoccidar2011 | Thanks |Kev|. As per a message from carols, we have asked it of carols. |
| 15:45.52 | irfan_q | anyone from jMonkey? |
| 15:45.58 | |Kev| | !anyone |
| 15:45.58 | socinfo | |Kev|: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
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| 15:46.52 | abhinav | join #mediawiki |
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| 15:48.42 | irfan_q | does this command creats a new channel it doesnt exists? |
| 15:49.05 | blast007 | yes |
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| 15:49.38 | fitzgan | !next |
| 15:49.38 | socinfo | fitzgan: "next" is March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
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| 15:49.51 | wolfb | !meeting |
| 15:49.51 | socinfo | wolfb: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
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| 15:51.08 | Vermeille | Hail :) |
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| 15:52.17 | irfan_q | so, anyone from GSoC yet? |
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| 15:53.35 | erlend_sh | hey irfan_q |
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| 15:53.38 | erlend_sh | who are you on the forum? |
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| 15:54.46 | irfan_q | iamcreasy* |
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| 15:55.42 | irfan_q | @erlend_sh so, anyone else from dev team? |
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| 15:57.16 | sumanah | abhinav: I am here from MediaWiki |
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| 16:00.41 | erlend_sh | !meeting |
| 16:00.41 | socinfo | erlend_sh: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 16:00.47 | jhf | that's now, right? |
| 16:00.54 | erlend_sh | yep |
| 16:01.02 | erlend_sh | dunno who's starting it though |
| 16:01.14 | TheUni | I suppose we're waiting for Carol |
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| 16:01.34 | Yaron | Hello, fellow rejects. |
| 16:01.39 | fitzgan | Hi there! |
| 16:01.43 | Nightrose | hey Yaron |
| 16:01.44 | ioggstream | hi |
| 16:01.44 | jhf | heheh |
| 16:01.44 | erlend_sh | hello outcast |
| 16:01.46 | conner_bw | commence angry mob |
| 16:01.54 | mattrobinson | Hello |
| 16:01.55 | Mikhail_ | Hello! |
| 16:01.59 | sumanah | hi Yaron -- I'm here to ask on behalf of one or two other projects that got rejected that we vouched for :/ |
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| 16:02.16 | Yaron | Ah - you've got your hands full. :) |
| 16:02.26 | erlend_sh | what organization are you with sumanah? |
| 16:02.31 | sumanah | erlend_sh: Wikimedia Foundation. |
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| 16:02.35 | erlend_sh | oh neat |
| 16:02.41 | sumanah | erlend_sh: thank you! and you? |
| 16:02.44 | schilly | hi all |
| 16:02.55 | erlend_sh | jMonkeyEngine, quite a different field ;) |
| 16:03.00 | gsoccidar2011 | Yaron, erlend_sh: are you GSoC administrators representing Google? |
| 16:03.03 | _Samo | hello guys |
| 16:03.13 | MarkAtwood | good morning |
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| 16:03.27 | SRabbelier|Lappy | gsoccidar2011: no, that would be carols |
| 16:03.31 | erlend_sh | nope, I'm not representing GSoC or Google in any way. here for my own project which got rejected. |
| 16:03.35 | mattrobinson | PuppetLabs here. We participated last year, but got rejected this year |
| 16:03.37 | _Samo | is this the place to complain? |
| 16:03.40 | ssi|neil | Hi all |
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| 16:03.48 | erlend_sh | heh, yes I suppose it is |
| 16:03.48 | Yaron | I don't believe there are any official GSoC people here yet. |
| 16:03.50 | sumanah | hi MarkAtwood, met you at Open Source Bridge in May I think |
| 16:03.52 | chastell | thanks for showing up, sumanah! CiviCRMâs Piotr here. |
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| 16:03.53 | erlend_sh | though I would rather say "inquire" ;) |
| 16:03.59 | schilly | _Samo: asking why, not complaining ^^ |
| 16:04.08 | _Samo | jk |
| 16:04.14 | |Kev| | kai / kblin / mlankhorst / whoever: Is there a plan for a backup channel and +m? |
| 16:04.15 | MarkAtwood | hello sumanah |
| 16:04.21 | sumanah | chastell: glad to see you! ok, I just have one project that I am vicariously representing, then :) |
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| 16:04.41 | MarkAtwood | is representing EUCALYPTUS |
| 16:04.41 | |Kev| | Evening carols. |
| 16:04.45 | carols | hi all |
| 16:04.47 | carols | sorry i'm late |
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| 16:04.48 | mlmmj_wolfb | hey carols |
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| 16:04.49 | kai | |Kev|: no idea |
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| 16:04.53 | schilly | hi carols ! |
| 16:04.56 | carols | sits down on the open source couch |
| 16:05.01 | carols | hey schilly! |
| 16:05.02 | sfranchi | hi carols |
| 16:05.08 | _Samo | hi there |
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| 16:05.10 | sumanah | greetings, carols |
| 16:05.16 | carols | so, shall we start this meeting in a couple minutes? |
| 16:05.16 | erlend_sh | greetings! |
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| 16:05.18 | jhf | any suggestions for background music for this session? :) |
| 16:05.18 | |Kev| | carols: Doesn't look like we've got a backchannel plan yet (I've not been arranged in running that in the past) |
| 16:05.21 | kai | we can move to #gsoc-rejects if we need to |
| 16:05.27 | Vermeille | Hi, is there someone for information about the PlaneShift project ? |
| 16:05.30 | carols | |Kev|: would you mind doing it this time? :-) |
| 16:05.32 | TheUni | carols: how embarrassing, you're sitting on the couch with all the rejects ;) |
| 16:05.45 | carols | Vermeille: please hold your questions until we have you in the queu |
| 16:05.45 | |Kev| | Rough plan is 'have channel, +m in here, give voice as appropriate?'? |
| 16:05.53 | kai | carols, |Kev|: #gsoc-rejects is mine :) |
| 16:05.57 | megansquire | it's like that fraternity party scene in Animal House |
| 16:05.59 | |Kev| | kai: Ok, ta. |
| 16:06.03 | erlend_sh | queue? is this something I should sign up for? |
| 16:06.05 | carols | kai: you got the back channel? |
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| 16:06.58 | kai | carols: yup |
| 16:07.05 | carols | great, thank you kai |
| 16:07.23 | SRabbelier|Lappy | carols: everybody wanting to get feedback should move to #gsoc-rejects, yes? |
| 16:07.24 | carols | can I get everyone who's here for reject feedback to please get queued up in kai's back channel so we can do this one at a time? |
| 16:07.28 | carols | thanks SRabbelier|Lappy |
| 16:07.36 | carols | took the words right out of my mouth |
| 16:07.57 | SRabbelier|Lappy | !rejects |
| 16:08.03 | carols | and kai, can you please make sure they have their org name and ideas page at the ready? |
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| 16:08.12 | *** topic/#gsoc by SRabbelier|Lappy -> Welcome to Google Summer of Code 2011! For rejects meeting please join #gsoc-rejects. Mentoring organizations are announced: http://goo.gl/VcRUV. Please read the FAQs - http://goo.gl/Up2Qf and the Timeline - http://goo.gl/0lYPz for more info. |
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| 16:08.23 | carols | thanks for all the help folks :-) |
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| 16:08.26 | carols | you all are awesome |
| 16:08.31 | carols | serves cookies |
| 16:08.47 | kai | carols: ok, so I take you'll do the replies here and we do the queueing in #gsoc-rejects |
| 16:08.56 | carols | kai: correct, thank you |
| 16:09.18 | carols | so i'll start the meeting and we'll lay down some rules and then we'll get started |
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| 16:09.37 | carols | ======GSoC Rejection Feedback Meeting Adjourned===== |
| 16:09.57 | carols | Rules: 1. Please queue in #gsoc-rejects if you would like feedback for your org |
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| 16:10.07 | carols | 2. Please have your org name and ideas page ready |
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| 16:10.41 | carols | 3. Please no PMs to me unless I request them with you, I can only have one conversation at a time :-) |
| 16:10.48 | carols | 4. Please have some cookies |
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| 16:10.54 | carols | Alright, kai, who's first up? |
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| 16:12.01 | kai | a moment, have to scroll back a bit |
| 16:12.05 | carols | sure, thanks |
| 16:12.10 | carols | sips some coffee |
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| 16:12.27 | kai | jhf for Liferay, Inc. |
| 16:12.46 | carols | great, thanks kai |
| 16:12.52 | carols | looks up Liferay |
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| 16:13.22 | carols | jhf, you here? |
| 16:13.25 | jhf | yup |
| 16:13.29 | jhf | tx for making time for us! |
| 16:13.41 | carols | great, of course, let me just review our notes for you guys |
| 16:13.45 | jhf | k |
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| 16:14.16 | carols | so we loved your ideas page, thought the use cases and the applications were great |
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| 16:14.55 | carols | jhf: can I pm? |
| 16:15.00 | jhf | sure |
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| 16:18.18 | carols | great, thanks kai, who's next |
| 16:18.20 | carols | ? |
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| 16:19.10 | kai | next is sumanah for Open Web Analytics (OWA) |
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| 16:19.17 | carols | great, thanks |
| 16:19.18 | sumanah | http://wiki.openwebanalytics.com/index.php?title=GSoC_2011 |
| 16:19.22 | carols | checks spreadsheet |
| 16:19.25 | carols | thanks sumanah |
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| 16:19.35 | sumanah | (I am representing Peter Adams, who couldn't make it; we at Wikimedia vouched for this project) |
| 16:19.43 | carols | ok, so our main concern was with your ideas page, sumanah |
| 16:20.09 | carols | we would have preferred a much more fleshed out list with difficulty of problems, potential mentors, and even use cases if applicable |
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| 16:20.47 | carols | we appreciated the vouch from wikimedia, but we're concerned about the student's ability to grab onto ideas for your org |
| 16:21.11 | carols | even if you only had a couple, we would have liked to have seen quite a few more |
| 16:21.17 | carols | sorry, i should be clear |
| 16:21.25 | carols | a lot more *information* for those ideas |
| 16:21.36 | carols | sumanah: does that make sense? |
| 16:21.45 | sumanah | carols: it does, even if I grumble internally :) |
| 16:21.57 | carols | sumanah: as we say in california, fair enough :-) |
| 16:22.02 | sumanah | thank you |
| 16:22.03 | carols | i do hope you'll apply next year |
| 16:22.08 | sumanah | I'll tell Peter to |
| 16:22.16 | carols | thank you. we like the work you're doing |
| 16:22.21 | sumanah | oh? |
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| 16:22.31 | carols | yeah, definitely |
| 16:22.43 | sumanah | do you have a moment to elaborate on that? |
| 16:22.50 | sumanah | you mean what OWA is working on, in general? |
| 16:23.37 | carols | sumanah: correct. we think its a cool project |
| 16:23.49 | sumanah | I shall relay that to Peter. Thank you. |
| 16:23.53 | carols | you're welcome |
| 16:23.57 | carols | thank you |
| 16:24.02 | carols | alright, who's next kai? |
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| 16:24.19 | kai | next is ioggstream for caldav4j |
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| 16:24.36 | ioggstream | here I am |
| 16:24.44 | carols | great, thanks |
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| 16:24.52 | carols | checks spreadsheet |
| 16:24.55 | ioggstream | hi carol, thx for your time |
| 16:25.16 | carols | of course, happy to |
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| 16:25.57 | ioggstream | need http://code.google.com/p/caldav4j/wiki/Ideas |
| 16:25.57 | carols | is caldav4j the full name of the org? |
| 16:26.03 | ioggstream | no, babel srl |
| 16:26.09 | carols | ah, great |
| 16:26.10 | ioggstream | caldav4j is the project |
| 16:26.11 | carols | thank you |
| 16:26.15 | ioggstream | sorry |
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| 16:26.44 | carols | no problem |
| 16:27.13 | carols | ok, so we like the ideas on the ideas page, but I still feel they could have been fleshed out a bit further. |
| 16:27.36 | carols | use cases would have been good, and a better description of your org |
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| 16:27.57 | ioggstream | last year I went deeper and I thought it was too long |
| 16:28.06 | mlankhorst | someone pinged me? |
| 16:28.16 | ioggstream | so I tried to make it more readable |
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| 16:28.28 | carols | i don't specifically remember your app from last year, but I think I would disagree that it can be too long :-) |
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| 16:28.50 | carols | we're trying to make it as easy on a student who's new to your org to get involved quickly and find an idea for themselves |
| 16:28.50 | ioggstream | :) nooooooooooooo :) |
| 16:29.01 | carols | so as much information as you can garner is a good thing :-) |
| 16:29.11 | ioggstream | so it's good to be verbose |
| 16:29.31 | carols | yes, i would say so. i like what you have, but it still could have been a but more fleshed out |
| 16:30.06 | carols | hope that helps |
| 16:30.12 | ioggstream | do you think the project/ideas will be suitable next year or you're |
| 16:30.30 | ioggstream | betting of other kind of projects (eg not libraries) |
| 16:30.30 | carols | yes, i like the ideas that are there for sure. |
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| 16:30.53 | carols | i just want it to be easy for someone who's new to you to quickly get the info they need from that page |
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| 16:31.24 | carols | i do hope you'll apply again next year |
| 16:31.32 | ioggstream | if you have no other hints for caldav4j I'll thank you again for your time |
| 16:31.47 | carols | you're welcome, and thank you for applying |
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| 16:32.01 | ioggstream | good luck for your work ;) |
| 16:32.08 | carols | haha thank you :-) |
| 16:32.08 | ioggstream | Peace, R. |
| 16:32.12 | carols | who's next? |
| 16:32.25 | kai | next is megansquire for flossmole |
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| 16:32.37 | carols | great |
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| 16:32.44 | carols | flips to spreadsheet |
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| 16:33.36 | carols | megansquire: we really liked your ideas page but I have a couple suggestions for next year |
| 16:33.47 | megansquire | ok |
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| 16:34.04 | carols | we'd like more info on the project itself on this page, I'd like to make it as easy as possible for the students applying to get a sense of your org right away |
| 16:34.28 | megansquire | ok, i would agree, after looking at the other projects' pages |
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| 16:34.32 | megansquire | they are better |
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| 16:35.06 | carols | also, I appreciate that there are small and large projects for you, but i'd like to see a relatively equal amount of info for each one: use cases, possible mentors (contact info?), difficulty level, etc. |
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| 16:35.21 | carols | size and scope is absolutely appropriate |
| 16:35.27 | carols | but more info overall would help |
| 16:35.48 | carols | and i'm glad to hear you're looking at other orgs' ideas pages, I think that will help you in the future |
| 16:35.50 | megansquire | ok. In general, we are a micro-project, very small. If we only have 2 mentors or perhaps 3, is that a problem? What is the typical mentor-student ratio? |
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| 16:36.10 | carols | no, not at all, but if you're only going to have a couple projects you might not want to call them messy :-) |
| 16:36.21 | carols | you want the kids to be excited about participating :-) |
| 16:36.33 | megansquire | well they are :) hideous. We're a pure research project, it's a sad state of affairs. ;) |
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| 16:36.45 | carols | i don't mind just a couple ideas on there if there's lots of info and they're easy to "bute into" |
| 16:36.51 | carols | sorry "bite into" |
| 16:36.56 | carols | sips some coffee |
| 16:36.59 | megansquire | gotcha |
| 16:37.04 | carols | great, thank you for applying |
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| 16:37.10 | carols | i hope you will next year too |
| 16:37.13 | megansquire | thank you for taking the time for feedback |
| 16:37.24 | carols | of course |
| 16:37.26 | carols | thank you |
| 16:37.38 | carols | great |
| 16:37.39 | kai | next is plaxx with packetfence |
| 16:37.43 | carols | thanks kai |
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| 16:38.05 | plaxx | hi carols, thanks for your time |
| 16:38.13 | carols | of course, thanks for coming |
| 16:38.17 | plaxx | idea page: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/user/obilodeau/gsoc_2011_ideas |
| 16:38.23 | carols | thank you |
| 16:38.34 | carols | ok, so this one was difficult for us |
| 16:38.48 | carols | we really liked your ideas page and that you had a vouch |
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| 16:40.00 | carols | this was a tough decision for us. i think ultimately we had to make a tough call on cutting your org. |
| 16:40.19 | carols | i would have liked a slightly more fleshed out ideas page, but you've really got the idea already |
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| 16:40.36 | carols | some more information about your org and the work you're doing on there would have been great |
| 16:40.40 | plaxx | what should we work on for next year? |
| 16:40.46 | plaxx | ok |
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| 16:41.00 | carols | use cases and possible mentors would also help. |
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| 16:41.15 | carols | but really this was just a matter of space. i'm sorry i have to say that :-( |
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| 16:41.28 | plaxx | for mentors, you mean names and emails listed on the idea? |
| 16:41.35 | plaxx | *idea page |
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| 16:41.47 | carols | yeah, it's more so the students can get in touch early with you if they have questions |
| 16:41.56 | carols | we want you to be accessible to them from the get-go |
| 16:42.21 | plaxx | ok, good news to me is that we should re-apply next year then! |
| 16:42.22 | carols | i basically would like to have a student visit your ideas page and be inspired :-) |
| 16:42.28 | carols | yes, please do apply next year |
| 16:42.33 | carols | we'd love to see you again |
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| 16:42.59 | carols | thanks for applying |
| 16:43.02 | plaxx | Ok, good, thanks for your time |
| 16:43.10 | kai | next is chastell with CiviCRM |
| 16:43.10 | carols | of course |
| 16:43.16 | carols | thanks kai |
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| 16:43.37 | chastell | ok, so I can see by now how our ideas page is, so to speak, terse: http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/GSoC+2011+Ideas |
| 16:43.47 | chastell | and weâll definitely work on it for GSoC 2012 :) |
| 16:44.01 | chastell | but Iâd love to know whether there are other things we should improve (application-side) |
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| 16:44.30 | carols | yeah, thank you chastell. we really like the work you're doing and I'm glad you're in conteact with lh, but we would have really liked a more fleshed-out ideas page :-( |
| 16:44.41 | carols | let me take a look at the rest of the app |
| 16:44.45 | carols | hold on just a sec |
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| 16:46.35 | carols | honestly, the only slight concern i had was maybe with your mentor plan if they disappeared, but i think in your community it sounds like that wouldn't happen. our focus for you was really on the ideas page |
| 16:47.00 | chastell | ok, weâll definitely come up with a better (or proper, actuallyâ¦) ideas page |
| 16:47.07 | carols | since it's the first info a student gets on your org, we want it to be very easy to bite into |
| 16:47.16 | chastell | and weâre a close pack of mentors, but Iâll come up with a better plan for them as well |
| 16:47.23 | carols | great, that sounds good |
| 16:47.24 | chastell | right |
| 16:47.40 | carols | hope to see you next year, sounds like a great project |
| 16:47.41 | chastell | thanks for the time, and fingers crossed for GSoC 2011 (and our 2012 application!) |
| 16:47.45 | carols | of course |
| 16:48.04 | kai | next is burcin with Sage |
| 16:48.12 | carols | cool |
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| 16:48.35 | burcin | schilly is the main contact person, I'm just backup.. so can you voice him too? |
| 16:48.41 | kai | sure |
| 16:48.47 | burcin | thanks for taking the time to answer questions :) |
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| 16:48.58 | carols | great, happy to |
| 16:49.02 | carols | just looking over the app now |
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| 16:49.25 | carols | sigh, this was another tough decision. i think your ideas page is awesome :-) |
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| 16:49.38 | schilly | ok, we are already wondering about the ideas page |
| 16:50.28 | carols | i think it looks great. my feedback is to keep the same format, because i like the introduction and the contact info at the bottom. i think its very well organized. |
| 16:50.37 | schilly | good |
| 16:51.08 | schilly | i also clustered related projects because there is already something going on related to them |
| 16:51.11 | carols | your app looks good too, looks like you took time considering your answers to the questions |
| 16:51.19 | schilly | sure |
| 16:51.29 | carols | yes, I think that's great. i like that it has difficulty level and more information as well |
| 16:51.39 | schilly | it's the 6th time tried to get into |
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| 16:52.09 | burcin | carols, thanks.. we worked hard the application |
| 16:52.19 | carols | these decisions pain me. it really just came down to numbers. i'm sorry i don't have more satisfying feedback than that :-( |
| 16:52.19 | burcin | any hints why we didn't get in? |
| 16:52.48 | schilly | should we try it again next year? i was the only one with some hope :\ |
| 16:53.09 | carols | schilly: i really think you should. i liked everything about you guys :-/ |
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| 16:53.42 | schilly | ok |
| 16:53.43 | burcin | thanks for the feedback |
| 16:53.55 | schilly | thanks! |
| 16:54.02 | carols | you're welcome, i'm sorry to the two of you. sometimes my job is really hard and this is one of those times. |
| 16:54.36 | carols | we have to just cut to get within a certain number every year and this is what it came down to |
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| 16:54.59 | burcin | ok.. we'll try again next year.. hope we'll make it then |
| 16:55.01 | burcin | thanks again |
| 16:55.09 | kai | next is gsoccidar2011 with gsoccidar2011 |
| 16:55.16 | schilly | carols: yeahr, well, i heard that already. at least we know that there is no basic problem |
| 16:55.16 | carols | thanks kai |
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| 16:55.26 | carols | schilly: correct. sorry again :-( |
| 16:55.31 | gsoccidar2011 | Hi Carol. We are from Boston University, and here's the ideas page: http://wiki.bu.edu/ece-cidar/index.php/Gsoc |
| 16:55.40 | carols | thanks gsoccidar2011 |
| 16:55.59 | gsoccidar2011 | First time applying; we are making software tools for synthetic biology. |
| 16:56.21 | carols | checking the app, just a sec |
| 16:56.46 | carols | what was the name of the org that you applied with? |
| 16:56.49 | carols | Cidar? |
| 16:56.53 | gsoccidar2011 | bucidargsco2011 |
| 16:56.56 | gsoccidar2011 | sorry. |
| 16:57.04 | carols | no problem |
| 16:57.54 | carols | sorry, you're going to have to help me out and send me a direct link to your app |
| 16:58.01 | carols | i think the link ID is confusing me |
| 16:58.22 | gsoccidar2011 | ok |
| 16:58.37 | carols | apologies, i think its just listed differently in my spreadsheet |
| 16:58.48 | gsoccidar2011 | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org_app/record/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/orgapp?id=6346201 |
| 16:59.13 | carols | thanks |
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| 16:59.23 | carols | ah! you applied as boston university :-) |
| 16:59.27 | gsoccidar2011 | Yes. |
| 16:59.31 | carols | thats why i was confused |
| 16:59.35 | carols | ok, we're back on track now |
| 16:59.36 | carols | thanks |
| 16:59.38 | gsoccidar2011 | No worries. |
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| 17:00.29 | carols | ok, so first piece of feedback is that i'd like to see your ideas page have some more categorized information like potential mentors, difficulty level, scope, use cases, etc. |
| 17:00.52 | carols | loved the pictures though, that was great |
| 17:00.57 | gsoccidar2011 | ok. There is mentor info, but we will add the rest. |
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| 17:01.01 | carols | gave me a good sense of what you're working on |
| 17:01.16 | gsoccidar2011 | Would a vouch have helped us? |
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| 17:01.30 | carols | yes, it certainly would have given you a leg up |
| 17:01.31 | gsoccidar2011 | We are small and new. Perhaps our community and its needs arent well known? |
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| 17:01.55 | gsoccidar2011 | Leg up enough to make a difference in the decision, assuming we fixed the use case etc.? |
| 17:01.59 | carols | yes, this is also possible. i know we had to review your app a little more extensively than the others because we weren't familiar with you |
| 17:02.13 | carols | correct. it wouldn't have made the game, but would have helped. |
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| 17:02.24 | carols | also, a side note: |
| 17:02.33 | gsoccidar2011 | Hmm. We werent sure if gsoc folks would have time to read extensive apps. So we kept it short and concise. |
| 17:02.44 | gsoccidar2011 | yes? |
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| 17:02.52 | carols | we got a *lot* of biology/medical/bioinformatics applications this year, and while we accepted a lot of them, you had a lot of competition as well. :-( |
| 17:03.03 | gsoccidar2011 | I see. |
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| 17:03.20 | gsoccidar2011 | Perhaps some examples of good apps would help all of us rejects. |
| 17:03.23 | carols | so with a more fleshed out ideas page, i think you would have had a stronger case against the others |
| 17:03.30 | gsoccidar2011 | ok |
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| 17:03.35 | carols | yes, you can look at the ideas pages for all the orgs that were accepted on melange |
| 17:04.00 | gsoccidar2011 | I did check out a few, and they were ... big. Thank you. |
| 17:04.07 | carols | of course. you're welcome |
| 17:04.13 | carols | i hope you'll apply next year :-) |
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| 17:04.23 | gsoccidar2011 | We will. Thank you for your wonderful work GSoC. |
| 17:04.27 | carols | of course |
| 17:04.29 | carols | cheers |
| 17:04.35 | kai | next is Nightrose or marcus_ with Semantic MediaWiki |
| 17:04.42 | carols | thanks kai |
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| 17:05.03 | Nightrose | hi |
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| 17:05.06 | carols | hey Nightrose :-) |
| 17:05.10 | Nightrose | :) |
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| 17:05.25 | markus_ | Hi |
| 17:05.26 | carols | aw man, another tough decision over here |
| 17:05.27 | kai | sorry, typoed on my list :) |
| 17:05.28 | carols | hey markus_ |
| 17:05.56 | carols | loved the ideas page, of course. i think it was spot-on |
| 17:06.01 | Nightrose | heh |
| 17:06.03 | markus_ | thanks |
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| 17:07.23 | carols | unfortunately i think our conversation boiled down to us making tough decisions about who to cut and we knew you'd participated in the past under the wikimedia umbrella and hoped you could continue to |
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| 17:07.41 | carols | another tough call for me :-( |
| 17:07.43 | Nightrose | that is what we feared yeah |
| 17:07.51 | markus_ | it is difficult since the WMF and SMW have quite different use cases |
| 17:07.51 | carols | yeah, i'm sorry. :-( |
| 17:07.58 | carols | i totally understand. |
| 17:08.13 | carols | and when we're cutting orgs we have to have those tough conversations |
| 17:08.21 | markus_ | anything we could change or improve in the future? |
| 17:08.41 | carols | let me take another look at the app and see if there's anything else |
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| 17:10.32 | carols | i think your app looks good. i'm sorry i can't give you more constructive feedback. this was another numbers decision :-( |
| 17:10.39 | markus_ | ok, thanks |
| 17:10.59 | Nightrose | thx |
| 17:11.07 | carols | please do apply next year, i'd like to see another app from you guys |
| 17:11.11 | carols | you're welcome. |
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| 17:11.38 | markus_ | ok, I think we will |
| 17:11.45 | carols | great, thank you markus_ |
| 17:11.59 | kai | next is _Samo with yafaray |
| 17:12.10 | carols | thanks kai |
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| 17:12.21 | _Samo | hi there |
| 17:12.38 | carols | hey _Samo |
| 17:12.40 | carols | just a sec |
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| 17:12.54 | _Samo | finally I have been able to attend the meeting so don't pay attention to the email request |
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| 17:13.20 | carols | ok, thanks for letting me know |
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| 17:13.56 | carols | i liked the ideas page, but actually i was a little surprised at the number of ideas - your org participated last year, right? |
| 17:14.20 | _Samo | yes I was a bit unnexpected for us the rejection |
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| 17:14.40 | _Samo | 6/7 in the past edition |
| 17:15.13 | carols | did you have a lot of students suggest their own projects last year? i guess i would have expected a lot more length to the ideas this year |
| 17:15.23 | _Samo | we have found that too many ideas works againts the selection process |
| 17:15.35 | carols | alright |
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| 17:16.12 | _Samo | because it does not force students to think out of the box, even students with experience on computer graphics |
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| 17:16.48 | _Samo | so we wanted to change that, but I see maybe too much |
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| 17:16.59 | carols | alright, that's understandable. i guess i was mostly just surprised. i would have expected your org to have a more wide variety of topics for the students to get ideas from |
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| 17:17.22 | carols | or maybe just an idea at the bottom where you say, "your idea here" or something? |
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| 17:17.56 | _Samo | we have explained that on the ideas page, the fact that we expect from students with experience in the field to put forward their own ideas |
| 17:18.13 | carols | alright, that's understandable |
| 17:18.19 | _Samo | this would leverage the process a bit |
| 17:18.41 | carols | other than that, i like the structure of your app and the ideas page overall |
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| 17:19.16 | carols | in addition to just cutting orgs across the board, we also did have to make some tough calls about cutting some returning orgs to make way for the new ones we were accepting this year |
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| 17:19.41 | _Samo | yes I have guessed that |
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| 17:20.03 | carols | please do apply again next year though, we liked your participation last year |
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| 17:20.26 | _Samo | carols, we will try again next year for sure |
| 17:20.31 | carols | great, thank you |
| 17:20.38 | kai | next is erlend_sh with jMonkeyEngine |
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| 17:20.57 | carols | trundles over to trusty spreadsheet |
| 17:21.08 | erlend_sh | can I write now?.. |
| 17:21.13 | erlend_sh | yay. Hiya Carol :) |
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| 17:21.23 | carols | hey erlend_sh :-) |
| 17:21.28 | carols | just a sec, reviewing your app |
| 17:21.32 | erlend_sh | mhm |
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| 17:22.12 | carols | we would have liked more info on the project itself on your ideas page. |
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| 17:22.26 | carols | i'd like the students to get a sense of who you are and why they should like you up front |
| 17:22.50 | erlend_sh | but isn't there an "information page" in the application to GSoC? |
| 17:22.50 | carols | i think the ideas themselves could have used a *weensy* bit of fleshing out, but I like the structure you have there |
| 17:23.17 | carols | erlend_sh: yes, but most students' first interaction with you is via your ideas page. i realize its somewhat redundant but its really helpful |
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| 17:24.04 | erlend_sh | right. but, really, are we rejected on the basis of a lacking introduction and some not-so fleshed out ideas? |
| 17:24.28 | erlend_sh | I was hoping for a bit more feedback than that, seeing as I checked multiple other projects before making our application, e.g. Blender and WordPress |
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| 17:25.03 | erlend_sh | our ideas page is just as fleshed out as theirs. also the booki guide specifically said that more "general" ideas could also be a good thing |
| 17:25.08 | carols | think of this like an interview process. i realize these seem like very little things, but when we're reviewing 430 applications every little bit counts |
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| 17:25.27 | carols | erlend_sh: yes, general ideas are good as well. |
| 17:25.35 | carols | have them all :-) |
| 17:25.40 | carols | with lots of info :-) |
| 17:25.55 | erlend_sh | mmkay :) |
| 17:26.22 | erlend_sh | well, I suppose I'm just wondering then, what should we pay attention to next year? better introduction and more fleshed out ideas, and that's it? |
| 17:26.45 | carols | yes, let me also look at the rest of your app and see if there's other stuff |
| 17:26.58 | erlend_sh | alright, appreciate it. |
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| 17:28.00 | carols | actually, yeah. i would have preferred more of a fleshed out reasoning on why you were applying. |
| 17:28.09 | carols | that's an important part to us too |
| 17:28.27 | carols | also, you don't need to list your mentors' age in the future, but that has nothing to do with your rejection :-) |
| 17:28.45 | erlend_sh | hmmm alright, thanks. is the application still editable/viewable somewhere? |
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| 17:28.52 | erlend_sh | couldn't find it last time I checked |
| 17:29.01 | carols | i liked your answers to our questions about disappearing students and mentors but the upper part about why you're participating could have used work |
| 17:29.08 | carols | yeah, try this link: |
| 17:29.12 | carols | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org_app/review/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/orgapp?id=6163207 |
| 17:29.28 | erlend_sh | "There is no entity with the required status." |
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| 17:29.37 | carols | hmm SRabbelier can you help? |
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| 17:30.00 | kai | SRabbelier had to run off, try asking in #melange and I guess he'll reply when he gets back |
| 17:30.07 | erlend_sh | in my "List of Documents" nothing shows up. |
| 17:30.07 | carols | SRabbelier might be able to help you offline with that. im pretty sure you can still see it in "list my org apps" |
| 17:30.10 | erlend_sh | okay |
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| 17:30.32 | erlend_sh | right. thank you very much for the feedback. see you next year ;) |
| 17:30.34 | carols | please do apply again next year :-) |
| 17:30.36 | carols | thank you |
| 17:30.43 | kai | next is sfranchi with LyX |
| 17:30.53 | carols | thanks for your continued help, kai :-) |
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| 17:31.05 | sfranchi | Hi Carol, thx for your time |
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| 17:31.28 | carols | hi sfranchi. i can already tell i have bad news for you |
| 17:31.36 | sfranchi | How do? |
| 17:31.43 | sfranchi | How so* |
| 17:31.48 | carols | we loved your application and your ideas page |
| 17:32.03 | sfranchi | ok |
| 17:32.04 | carols | and im looking at the spreadsheet and your org was cut in the final round of decisions |
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| 17:32.12 | carols | we really liked you and wanted to accept you |
| 17:32.20 | sfranchi | but? |
| 17:32.32 | carols | but we could only accept a certain number of orgs this year. :-( |
| 17:32.43 | carols | i realize this is not very satisfying |
| 17:32.56 | sfranchi | I see. Anything we can do to improve our chances in the future? |
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| 17:33.28 | carols | actually, your chances were great this year. get KDE to vouch for you again and i'd love to try to accept you in the future. |
| 17:33.50 | sfranchi | OK. So it was just a number issue? |
| 17:33.53 | carols | i've got nothing substantial to offer you, this wasn't really about your app at all |
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| 17:33.55 | carols | yeah |
| 17:33.58 | carols | i'm sorry :-( |
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| 17:34.10 | sfranchi | ok, thanks for your time all the same |
| 17:34.18 | carols | please do apply in the future |
| 17:34.28 | sfranchi | we will |
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| 17:35.06 | carols | thanks sfranchi |
| 17:35.06 | kai | next is fitzgan with BCCD |
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| 17:35.30 | fitzgan | Hi carols! we really appreciate your doing this. |
| 17:35.32 | carols | hey fitzgan |
| 17:35.34 | carols | of course |
| 17:35.35 | carols | happy to |
| 17:35.38 | carols | its the least i can do |
| 17:35.44 | fitzgan | :) Thank you! |
| 17:36.13 | carols | so your ideas page could have used a bit of work |
| 17:36.28 | carols | im very glad you categorized into difficulty level :-) |
| 17:36.32 | carols | please keep doing that |
| 17:36.34 | fitzgan | Yeah. We knew going in that was going to be our weak spot. |
| 17:36.40 | fitzgan | Certainly will |
| 17:36.49 | carols | but we'd like to see some potential mentors, maybe use cases if applicable. |
| 17:37.01 | carols | give the students some sense of why they should like you and want to work with your org :-) |
| 17:37.21 | fitzgan | Understood. :) We plan on working on it consistently over the next year |
| 17:37.32 | carols | fitzgan: also, some info on the org itself. i realize it feels redundant but the more places we can find out about you and what you do, the better |
| 17:37.36 | carols | great! |
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| 17:37.39 | carols | i'm glad to hear it |
| 17:37.59 | fitzgan | I'm getting that sense from reading other comments, too. |
| 17:38.03 | carols | let me just take another look at the app and see if there's anything else |
| 17:38.13 | fitzgan | especially since we're small, I can certainly see how it would be useful. |
| 17:38.18 | carols | for sure |
| 17:38.46 | carols | rest of the app looks good from my recollection of it |
| 17:38.57 | fitzgan | Excellent. :) |
| 17:39.06 | carols | please do apply again next year :-) |
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| 17:39.13 | fitzgan | We plan on it! |
| 17:39.17 | fitzgan | Thanks so much for your time. |
| 17:39.22 | carols | of course |
| 17:39.24 | carols | thanks for applying |
| 17:39.32 | kai | next is merlijn with Xonotic |
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| 17:40.06 | carols | thanks kai |
| 17:40.28 | merlijn | hiya - the ideas page is up here: http://dev.xonotic.org/projects/xonotic/wiki/GSoC-2011-ideas |
| 17:40.40 | carols | hey merlijn, thanks |
| 17:41.14 | carols | i like the number of ideas and their organization, but would have liked some more info on your page about who you are and what you do. |
| 17:41.19 | carols | we like your project though :-) |
| 17:41.30 | merlijn | I did send you an email to request feedback as well, but a delayed flight managed to let me be here :) |
| 17:41.39 | merlijn | okay, thank you |
| 17:41.43 | carols | ok thanks for telling me :-) |
| 17:41.43 | carols | some more info on what the |
| 17:41.46 | carols | darn |
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| 17:42.24 | carols | some more info on how the students can dive into these projects would be good as well. use cases or the like |
| 17:42.44 | carols | also on your app: i'd like you to think some more about disappearing mentors. :-) |
| 17:42.54 | merlijn | it feels difficult to write up a good summary of our project, there is tons of information "out there" - but I do see your point |
| 17:43.15 | carols | i realize your community thinks gsoc is a big deal, but i'd still like to know what your contingency plan is when life happens :-) |
| 17:43.41 | carols | other than that, i liked your app |
| 17:43.56 | merlijn | okay, thank you |
| 17:44.01 | carols | you're welcome :-) |
| 17:44.05 | carols | please apply next year |
| 17:44.21 | merlijn | will do when I get the chance, have a great summer to all of you |
| 17:44.25 | carols | same to you |
| 17:44.55 | carols | how many more we got, kai? |
| 17:44.56 | kai | next is ssi|neil with Software Sustainability Institute |
| 17:45.05 | carols | thanks |
| 17:45.05 | kai | I have a list of 16 |
| 17:45.15 | kai | just fyi, http://pastey.net/147994 |
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| 17:45.32 | ssi|neil | thanks for taking the time to give feedback by IRC! |
| 17:45.34 | carols | great, thanks kai |
| 17:45.41 | carols | you're welcome ssi|neil |
| 17:45.45 | carols | let me look at the app |
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| 17:46.57 | carols | yeah, so i really liked your ideas page. please keep it formatted exactly the same :-) |
| 17:47.08 | ssi|neil | ok :) |
| 17:47.11 | carols | you did a great job with it |
| 17:48.20 | carols | so this decision came down to a couple things: 1) just numbers of orgs this year and 2) I would have liked some more info on your contingency places for disappearing mentors. that's really the place from the app where we get a sense of if you've thought the whole summer through and can still provide a support mechanism for your students if you need to |
| 17:48.25 | carols | it was mostly 1 |
| 17:48.29 | carols | but you could improve 2 a little |
| 17:48.49 | ssi|neil | okay - thanks for that tip! |
| 17:49.07 | carols | you're welcome. more info on your app for next year and your ideas page is awesome :-) |
| 17:49.13 | carols | i do hope you'll apply again |
| 17:49.42 | ssi|neil | a question I had was about one of the projects we umbrella (who had half the project ideas) - should they try to apply separately in the future? |
| 17:50.27 | carols | ssi|neil: actually, i think i like the way you're structured now. the project page feels pretty substantial and we like it that way. would it take a lot away from your org to split you two? |
| 17:50.41 | carols | by "a lot" i mean people and projects |
| 17:50.43 | carols | not effort |
| 17:51.54 | ssi|neil | mmm⦠it would split it in half - although it would make it easier to not answer the app questions with "for this software we do this, and for this software we do that" but if you're okay with that we're fine reapplying together again next year |
| 17:52.04 | ssi|neil | :) |
| 17:52.28 | carols | ssi|neil: i think staying "larger" would probably behoove you, but its really up to you :-) |
| 17:53.16 | ssi|neil | ok, thanks - we will work on finding more great ideas and ways of wrangling our mentors for next year! |
| 17:53.20 | carols | we look forward to your app next year :-) |
| 17:53.24 | carols | thanks for applying |
| 17:53.33 | kai | next is mlmmj_wolfb with mlmmj, who happened to get lost on my move from a hand-written to the pastebin list. sorry about that |
| 17:53.38 | ssi|neil | thanks for running the programme! |
| 17:53.45 | carols | you're welcome :-) |
| 17:53.47 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v+v ssi|neil mlmmj_wolfb] by kai |
| 17:53.50 | mlmmj_wolfb | Hi carols. I'm getting the feeling that out ideas page (http://mlmmj.org/gsoc-2011-ideas) was seriously lacking, by reading your other comments. Do you have something else for us? |
| 17:54.05 | carols | let me check now |
| 17:55.21 | carols | i would have liked some more info on why you were applying and wanted to participate in GSoC on your app |
| 17:55.43 | mlmmj_wolfb | Ahaa, ok. This was sort of an experiment for us this year, but we like the idea of applying. Next year we will be more prepared :) |
| 17:55.49 | carols | great |
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| 17:55.57 | carols | yeah, wolfb vouched for you, yes? |
| 17:56.06 | mlmmj_wolfb | yes |
| 17:56.32 | carols | i'd definitely recommend a sit-down talk with him about the questions on the app - we want to get the sense that you've really thought out the summer and how you're going to react if things go wrong |
| 17:56.48 | carols | we want the students to get the best experience possible even when you lose a mentor or whatever |
| 17:56.51 | mlmmj_wolfb | carols: I'm him :P |
| 17:56.56 | carols | wait |
| 17:57.07 | carols | then why didn't you flesh out your app further? :-) |
| 17:57.17 | mlmmj_wolfb | we were a bit pressed for time |
| 17:57.28 | mlmmj_wolfb | And we thought it looked good |
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| 17:57.32 | mlmmj_wolfb | nice and efficient |
| 17:57.43 | mlmmj_wolfb | we don't have a lot of structure to our tiny org |
| 17:58.03 | carols | alright, fair enough. :-) for a new org we put more emphasis on the application because we want to make sure the org knows what they're getting themselves into :-) |
| 17:58.11 | mlmmj_wolfb | it's just a bunch of people who think that mlms can be done better |
| 17:58.24 | carols | ok cool. i think it *is* a cool project |
| 17:58.29 | carols | just needs a better ideas page |
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| 17:58.54 | mlmmj_wolfb | glad to hear. Next year I'll start the SoC drumbrolling earlier. So we have more time to prepare for it |
| 17:59.03 | carols | great, glad to hear it |
| 17:59.13 | carols | thanks mlmmj_wolfb |
| 17:59.21 | mlmmj_wolfb | any thoughts on the size? |
| 17:59.34 | mlmmj_wolfb | we would be 2 mentors with 1-2 students |
| 17:59.36 | carols | size is fine, actually |
| 17:59.48 | carols | we wanted smaller orgs this year |
| 17:59.50 | mlmmj_wolfb | ok, glad to hear. Thanks for your time carols |
| 17:59.57 | carols | yw :-) |
| 17:59.58 | kai | next is mtmoore with Omnibond Systems |
| 18:00.03 | carols | thanks kai |
| 18:00.12 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v+v wolfb mtmoore] by kai |
| 18:00.29 | mtmoore | hi carols |
| 18:00.34 | carols | hi mtmoore |
| 18:00.46 | mtmoore | the feedback so far regarding the ideas page has been very helpful |
| 18:00.59 | carols | mtmoore: oh good, i'm glad to hear it |
| 18:01.05 | carols | have you seen the booki link as well? |
| 18:01.31 | mtmoore | yes, was there a particular portion I missed? |
| 18:01.41 | carols | mtmoore: no, just wanted to make sure. |
| 18:01.49 | carols | ill post it here anyway for anyone who missed it |
| 18:01.50 | carols | http://www.booki.cc/gsoc-mentoring/_v/1.0/making-your-ideas-page/ |
| 18:02.02 | carols | mtmoore: so our primary concern was yes with your ideas page. |
| 18:02.25 | carols | just more information overall so that the students have a jumping into point for getting interested in your org |
| 18:02.34 | mtmoore | fair enough :) |
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| 18:02.52 | carols | let me look at your app and see if there's anything else i can comment on |
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| 18:03.50 | carols | rest of the app looks reasonable. more info on your org and your ideas on your ideas page and you're in the running :-) |
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| 18:03.59 | mtmoore | great, thanks for your time and feedback! |
| 18:04.23 | carols | also, one last tip if we do it again next year: you may want to get in touch with/work with another org who's participated in gsoc and get feedback and have them vouch for you next year |
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| 18:04.36 | carols | its not the end-all-be-all, but it might help your org |
| 18:04.39 | mtmoore | so what does it mean for an org to vouch for another? |
| 18:04.53 | carols | basically just that they've worked with you and think you'd do a good job in gsoc |
| 18:05.10 | carols | we trust the relationships between our orgs who have participated in the past quite a lot |
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| 18:05.20 | mtmoore | understandably |
| 18:05.34 | carols | so just a suggestion. it wont make or break you, but it might help |
| 18:05.42 | mtmoore | that's a good thing for us to work on |
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| 18:05.51 | mtmoore | thank you |
| 18:05.58 | carols | do hope you'll apply again next year :-) |
| 18:06.05 | mtmoore | we will :-) |
| 18:06.08 | kai | next is dcramer_ with DocBook |
| 18:06.08 | carols | great |
| 18:06.21 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v+v mtmoore dcramer_] by kai |
| 18:06.25 | dcramer_ | Hi Carol. |
| 18:06.32 | carols | hey dcramer_ |
| 18:06.38 | carols | just give me a sec to check this out |
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| 18:06.45 | dcramer_ | Sadly, we de-emphasized the ideas page to encourage students to come up with their own ideas (we had the misapprehension that was better). |
| 18:07.04 | carols | yeah, i would say they're both important actually |
| 18:07.08 | dcramer_ | Btw: http://docbook.xmlpress.net/tiki-index.php?page=Ideas2011 |
| 18:07.27 | dcramer_ | Also, a dog ate our wiki and we had to recover some stuff from google cache. |
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| 18:07.37 | carols | */me laughs |
| 18:07.43 | dcramer_ | Were there other factors? |
| 18:07.43 | carols | thanks for the chuckle |
| 18:07.52 | carols | let me take a quick look at the rest of the app |
| 18:08.53 | carols | it would have helped you a bit to have a vouch from an org, but you're right, this was really about the ideas page. |
| 18:09.11 | dcramer_ | Ok. Didn't think we needed a vouch since we participated last year. |
| 18:09.15 | carols | sorry i dont have better feedback for you :-( |
| 18:09.19 | dcramer_ | And really enjoyed it! |
| 18:09.47 | carols | well good :-) |
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| 18:09.53 | carols | i hope you'll try again next year |
| 18:10.04 | dcramer_ | Sure will. |
| 18:10.10 | dcramer_ | Have a great summer! |
| 18:10.12 | kai | next is MarkAtwood with Eucalyptus |
| 18:10.14 | carols | you too! |
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| 18:10.16 | carols | thanks kai |
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| 18:10.40 | MarkAtwood | http://open.eucalyptus.com/participate/gsoc |
| 18:10.45 | MarkAtwood | hello carol |
| 18:10.52 | carols | hey MarkAtwood |
| 18:11.04 | MarkAtwood | Thank you for looking at our application |
| 18:11.12 | carols | of course. happy to |
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| 18:12.07 | carols | this was an ideas page i felt actually would have benefitted more than most for some use cases. i think its hard to jump into this ideas page not having context for how these project ideas fit into the larger scheme of your org |
| 18:12.32 | MarkAtwood | ok. more use cases |
| 18:12.34 | carols | MarkAtwood: can i pm? |
| 18:12.39 | MarkAtwood | yes |
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| 18:15.40 | MarkAtwood | thank you carols |
| 18:15.47 | carols | you're welcome |
| 18:15.48 | carols | thank you |
| 18:15.57 | kai | next is conner_bw with sux0r |
| 18:16.16 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v+v MarkAtwood conner_bw] by kai |
| 18:16.24 | conner_bw | thanks for your time |
| 18:16.33 | carols | conner_bw: of course |
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| 18:17.07 | carols | so i appreciated the ideas thread for your ideas page, but we'd like to have it be a stand-alone page specifically targetted at ideas for the students |
| 18:17.19 | carols | commenting's fine, but it should be more fleshed out than it currently is |
| 18:17.38 | conner_bw | Yeah, after reading the feedback for the others in the channel I see now that the ideas page is pivotal, and if I were to apply again it needs much improving. |
| 18:18.00 | carols | well cool. then i'm glad you got some useful info from the session :-) |
| 18:18.06 | conner_bw | On that note I have a 2nd project I'd like to submit next year but I don't know if it qualifies? |
| 18:18.14 | conner_bw | I am on the dev team of a music sequencer named Renoise which runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux (see: http://www.renoise.com ) - This sequencer has an open and extensive Lua API (see: https://code.google.com/p/xrnx/ ). The file formats are XML (see: http://xrns-php.sourceforge.net/ ). Renoise is not open source. The Renoise API and file formats, however, are open. My question: Could Renoise apply as a mentor organization? |
| 18:18.37 | carols | ihas renoise released software under an OS license at some point already? |
| 18:18.43 | conner_bw | no, never. |
| 18:18.52 | carols | ok, that's the defining criteria |
| 18:19.07 | carols | so if renoise released something in the next year it would qualify |
| 18:19.13 | conner_bw | ok, that's what i thought. thank you. |
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| 18:19.19 | carols | you're welcome |
| 18:19.22 | carols | thanks for applying |
| 18:19.27 | conner_bw | cheers |
| 18:19.30 | kai | next is mattrobinson with PuppetLabs |
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| 18:20.18 | carols | mattrobinson: the ideas page could have used a lot of work here |
| 18:20.35 | mattrobinson | i figured that would be the feedback. it's the same page we used last year |
| 18:20.43 | mattrobinson | when we did get accepted |
| 18:20.55 | mattrobinson | so we didn't realize we'd need to update it much |
| 18:21.00 | carols | yeah, we were making a lot of tough calls this year, so every little bit mattered |
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| 18:21.37 | mattrobinson | ok, easy enough to fix for next year. anything else to look for from our app? |
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| 18:21.44 | carols | yeah, let me take another look |
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| 18:22.53 | carols | yeah, i think overall your app could have been a bit more fleshed out. would have liked more info on why you were applying, your contingency plans for mentors and choosing them, etc. |
| 18:23.04 | carols | some more info overall would have also helped. |
| 18:23.40 | mattrobinson | i had typed longer responses, but the browser crashed on me and i lost all my work |
| 18:23.51 | mattrobinson | an autosave feature on the form would be really helpful |
| 18:24.02 | carols | i agree, the melange guys are working on it |
| 18:24.06 | mattrobinson | i typed my respones offline and pasted them in the next time |
| 18:24.08 | mattrobinson | cool |
| 18:24.13 | carols | a rockin' ideas page would have helped you a lot of the way there, regardless of the app |
| 18:24.27 | carols | but some more info would have helped too |
| 18:24.32 | mattrobinson | info overall about the project? the reason for applying? everything? |
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| 18:25.16 | carols | yeah, actually. we get some extensive applications. more info is almost always better than less. |
| 18:26.11 | mattrobinson | ok, can do |
| 18:26.14 | carols | hope that helps |
| 18:26.15 | carols | thanks |
| 18:26.18 | mattrobinson | thanks |
| 18:26.22 | kai | next is sfb with Ryzom Core |
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| 18:26.35 | sfb | Ideas: http://dev.ryzom.com/wiki/ryzom/GSoc2011Ideas Cookie: http://goo.gl/ODboN |
| 18:26.46 | carols | thanks |
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| 18:27.51 | carols | yep, like the ideas on your ideas page. would have like more info on your org and what you do, that would have helped. |
| 18:28.03 | sfb | On the ideas page or the application? |
| 18:28.13 | carols | ideas page |
| 18:28.38 | sfb | I gathered some notes from Sage after you talked to them. Iliked their org info and mentor info headings. |
| 18:28.42 | carols | but i see that worldforge vouched for you and that helped your case a lot. so this ended up coming down to number again |
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| 18:29.12 | sfb | Any other things I can do in the intervening year or on my next application? |
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| 18:29.33 | carols | let me look at the rest of the app to be sure |
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| 18:30.28 | carols | nope, i'm happy with the rest of the app. stay involved with worldforge and flesh out your ideas page a little further for next year. |
| 18:30.42 | carols | can worldforge umbrella for you again this year? |
| 18:30.57 | sfb | I already started talking with Kai about it. |
| 18:31.05 | kai | we can, provided the slots work out and all :) |
| 18:31.07 | carols | ok great |
| 18:31.10 | carols | glad to hear it :-) |
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| 18:31.14 | sfb | I'd like to do so again but I have a feeling it may be hard for us slot-wise. |
| 18:31.24 | carols | we'll see what we can do. |
| 18:31.35 | sfb | Awesome, I appreciate it. |
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| 18:31.39 | carols | of course |
| 18:31.42 | carols | thanks for applying |
| 18:31.45 | sfb | Thank you for your hard work |
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| 18:32.02 | carols | you're welcome :-) |
| 18:32.03 | carols | cheers |
| 18:32.05 | kai | next is davidsansome with Clementine |
| 18:32.20 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v+v sfb davidsansome] by kai |
| 18:32.24 | davidsansome | hi carols, thanks for taking the time to do this! our ideas page is here if you need it: http://code.google.com/p/clementine-player/wiki/GSoC2011Ideas |
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| 18:32.31 | carols | davidsansome: great thanks |
| 18:32.35 | carols | let me take a quick look |
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| 18:33.10 | carols | looks like we were happy with your ideas page :-) |
| 18:33.15 | carols | let me see what else i've got here |
| 18:33.19 | davidsansome | great :) |
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| 18:34.49 | carols | yeah, unfortunately this one was another numbers one, i'm sorry to say |
| 18:35.11 | carols | we had a lot of tough cuts and this was another of those |
| 18:35.16 | davidsansome | ok! it's reassuring to know it wasn't a problem with the application |
| 18:35.24 | davidsansome | is there anything we can do to give us an edge next time? |
| 18:35.30 | carols | no, it wasn't. i'm quite happy with what i see here :-) |
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| 18:36.00 | carols | i didn't contact john maguire directly but if you could have him contact me next year about your org, that would certainly give you an edge |
| 18:36.11 | carols | no guarantees, of course :-) |
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| 18:36.17 | carols | but if you're looking for an edge... |
| 18:36.40 | davidsansome | hehe ok, thanks :) I'll have to include some cookies in the application as well |
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| 18:36.56 | carols | hehe well thank you :-) |
| 18:37.02 | kai | next is dhaun with Geeklog |
| 18:37.12 | carols | hey dhaun |
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| 18:37.25 | dhaun | hey Carol, hope you're not too exhausted by now |
| 18:37.39 | dhaun | thanks for doing this, our ideas page is http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code |
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| 18:37.50 | carols | no problem, just give me a sec |
| 18:39.04 | carols | yeah, another bad news one. i see you guys were in until our very final round of cuts and we just had to get to a specific number :-( |
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| 18:39.19 | carols | i liked your app, i like your org |
| 18:39.27 | carols | but we were making way for new orgs this year |
| 18:39.30 | dhaun | thanks :) |
| 18:39.44 | carols | i'm sorry this isn't more satisfying :-( |
| 18:39.54 | dhaun | right, that's what I was "hoping", sort-of, to hear |
| 18:39.56 | carols | please keep doing what you're doing :-) |
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| 18:40.18 | carols | we really cut into bone this year |
| 18:40.25 | dhaun | well, that should be easy then :) |
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| 18:40.45 | carols | please do apply next year, of course |
| 18:40.54 | dhaun | okay, anything else you can think of or just "keep it up"? |
| 18:41.11 | carols | seriously, just keep it up. this had nothing to do with your app :-/ |
| 18:41.31 | dhaun | well, that's good to hear - thank you |
| 18:41.35 | kai | next is TheUni with XBMC |
| 18:41.36 | carols | you're welcome |
| 18:41.39 | dhaun | we'll be back :) |
| 18:41.51 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v+v dhaun TheUni] by kai |
| 18:41.57 | TheUni | hi carols |
| 18:42.01 | carols | hey TheUni |
| 18:42.10 | carols | just let me look this over |
| 18:43.16 | carols | so on the ideas page i would have liked a bit more info on your org itself for the students. i like the amount of information you have about the ideas but would have like it organized just a little more |
| 18:43.28 | carols | you're like 90% there :-) |
| 18:43.33 | TheUni | ok |
| 18:43.47 | TheUni | yea, gsoc snuck up on us, we put it together quickly |
| 18:44.06 | carols | fair enough. just a little more clarity would have helped a lot |
| 18:44.15 | TheUni | understood |
| 18:44.16 | TheUni | to be clear... |
| 18:44.36 | TheUni | should it be presented as though a student doesn't know what xbmc is? doesn't know how gsoc would work? |
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| 18:45.25 | carols | yeah, it should.i realize we want students who are interested in *you* and *your org* but we want their first impression of your ideas page to give them the most information so they'll want to dive right into your community :-) |
| 18:45.46 | TheUni | ok |
| 18:45.59 | carols | hope that helps |
| 18:46.03 | TheUni | also.. |
| 18:46.09 | carols | yep |
| 18:46.30 | TheUni | we've worked closely with some other projects for gsoc in the past. i think i listed one in the app. is there anything i should ask them to do in the future, or simply list them in our application? |
| 18:47.20 | carols | if there's a specific org who we can contact about you next year, you should list them. the more people who point at your org and say, "please accept them" whose opinions we trust the better :-) |
| 18:47.30 | carols | again, not a guarantee, but certainly helpful :-) |
| 18:47.34 | TheUni | ok |
| 18:47.48 | TheUni | thank you very much for taking the time, it's much appreciated |
| 18:47.52 | carols | thanks for applying |
| 18:47.54 | carols | happy to |
| 18:48.12 | carols | cheers |
| 18:48.17 | kai | next is borja with OpenNebula |
| 18:48.23 | carols | hey borja |
| 18:48.28 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v+v TheUni borja] by kai |
| 18:48.36 | borja | hey carols |
| 18:48.39 | borja | http://dev.opennebula.org/projects/opennebula/wiki/GSOC2011-StudentProjectIdeas |
| 18:48.51 | carols | thank you |
| 18:49.06 | carols | boy, all the hard ones today |
| 18:49.09 | borja | heh |
| 18:49.13 | carols | looks like we loved the ideas page |
| 18:49.16 | borja | yay |
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| 18:49.40 | carols | yeah, and you guys were in until our last round as well |
| 18:50.00 | borja | well, I guess that kinda what we were hoping to hear ;-) |
| 18:50.18 | borja | We realize it was specially competitive this eyar |
| 18:50.21 | borja | *year |
| 18:50.38 | carols | we accepted some new space-related orgs this year and i think we had to make some tough calls in that last round :-( |
| 18:50.50 | borja | space-related? |
| 18:51.06 | carols | just generally in the same project category |
| 18:51.13 | borja | oh |
| 18:51.21 | carols | i realize you're all doing different stuff, but it was about emphasizing new orgs this year |
| 18:51.34 | borja | ah, gotcha |
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| 18:51.52 | borja | Just wanted to make sure we weren't classified as "space-related" |
| 18:52.06 | carols | no, we don't do classifications, just old/new :-) |
| 18:52.11 | borja | ok, cool |
| 18:52.33 | carols | sorry i dont have much more useful feedback than that |
| 18:52.44 | borja | no worries, again, we realize there was a lot of applicants this year, and that bringing in new orgs keeps GSoC fresh |
| 18:52.53 | carols | yeah, indeed |
| 18:53.02 | carols | thats what we tried this year |
| 18:53.08 | borja | Thanks for taking the time to meet with all of us for 2+ hours! |
| 18:53.13 | carols | of course |
| 18:53.16 | carols | thanks for applying |
| 18:53.18 | carols | :-) |
| 18:53.20 | kai | next is davidL with Formal Systems Laboratory |
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| 18:53.35 | carols | hi davidL |
| 18:53.38 | davidL | Hi Carol. Thanks for meeting with us. Here is our ideas page: http://fsl.cs.uiuc.edu/index.php/ProjectIdeas |
| 18:54.46 | carols | very nice ideas page, i see |
| 18:54.46 | carols | let me look at the rest of the app |
| 18:54.53 | davidL | Thanks |
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| 18:56.22 | carols | gah, another tough decision for us it looks like |
| 18:56.35 | carols | i like the depth and breadth of your app as well |
| 18:57.04 | carols | more information on your org on your ideas page would have been helpful, actually |
| 18:57.14 | carols | or on the home page as well. |
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| 18:57.27 | davidL | I will be sure to include that next time |
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| 18:57.54 | carols | and next year could you get the googlers you know to contact me directly for their vouch about you? i dont believe i contacted them and it would have helped your case a little |
| 18:58.04 | carols | but this was another numbers question, unfortunately |
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| 18:58.35 | davidL | I'll definitely do that. I wasn't sure if you would be contacting them of if we should have them contact you. I will ask them to do that next year. |
| 18:58.59 | carols | yeah, i realize i didn't set out expectations about that to begin with. |
| 18:59.21 | carols | but we liked you guys and would like it if you applied again next year :-) |
| 18:59.43 | davidL | Is there anything else we could have done? |
| 19:00.38 | carols | well, actually, some easy projects on your ideas page might have helped a little |
| 19:00.47 | carols | but we're splitting hairs at this point |
| 19:00.57 | davidL | Alright :) |
| 19:00.58 | carols | i liked your ideas page over all |
| 19:01.13 | carols | thank you for applying :-) |
| 19:01.23 | davidL | Thank you for your time. We look forward to next year. |
| 19:01.27 | kai | next is Jefro with beagleboard.org |
| 19:01.33 | carols | hey Jefro |
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| 19:01.40 | carols | can i pm? |
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| 19:01.43 | Jefro | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.46 | Jefro | you bet |
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| 19:05.13 | carols | thanks Jefro |
| 19:05.14 | carols | moving on |
| 19:05.16 | kai | next is santaris with OSWINDS |
| 19:05.46 | kai | or not, I don't see him/her |
| 19:05.51 | carols | yeah me either |
| 19:05.57 | carols | let's move on and come back if needed |
| 19:06.06 | kai | ok, tty1 with dANN/Syncleus |
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| 19:06.14 | tty1 | hi |
| 19:06.25 | tty1 | carols, of course i wanna start with athankyou |
| 19:06.30 | carols | hey tty1, whats the whole name of the org you applied under? |
| 19:06.33 | carols | you're welcome :-) |
| 19:06.42 | tty1 | carols, here is a link to my rejection questiosn and a link to our ideas page http://wiki.syncleus.com/index.php/User:Freemo/GSOC_2011_rejection_questions |
| 19:06.45 | tty1 | Syncleus |
| 19:06.49 | tty1 | perhaps Syncleus, Inc. |
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| 19:07.33 | carols | ah thanks |
| 19:07.34 | carols | got it |
| 19:08.07 | carols | so actually, i had some questions about your licensing |
| 19:08.17 | tty1 | sure |
| 19:08.35 | carols | you list it as an "open source community license" - is that an OSI-approved license? |
| 19:09.08 | carols | i will admit to being a little confused in the meeting :-) |
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| 19:09.22 | tty1 | carols, no but it is OSI compatable (As in we would be approved if submited).. however i remarked int eh application that if that was an issuee, upon acceptance, we would dual license under BSD |
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| 19:09.39 | carols | yeah, i saw that, thank you |
| 19:10.03 | carols | so have you released software actually under an osi-approved license in the past? |
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| 19:10.18 | tty1 | carols, yea gpl and bsd |
| 19:10.32 | tty1 | carols, much of our code is actually already dual licensed under bsd |
| 19:11.22 | carols | ok, so in your next app please just be a little more clear about that and actually, if you've released software under an osi licence already just leave out the open source community license stuff, we were confused :-) |
| 19:11.27 | carols | ok, so other stuff |
| 19:11.40 | tty1 | that makes sense |
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| 19:11.48 | tty1 | or we might get OSCL to be OSI approved by then hopefully |
| 19:11.58 | carols | yes, that would be ideal |
| 19:12.29 | carols | i would have liked a lot more info from your app on why you were applying and what you were hoping to get out of the experience |
| 19:12.53 | carols | and in general, more info on your app overall |
| 19:13.16 | carols | we want to make sure you're invested in the process and have thought through contingencies |
| 19:13.21 | tty1 | carols, that makes sense, we actually did a few special things on our ideas page i was hopping would make us a lock, but the application we couldnt change after hte deadline which was unfortunate so we focused more on ideas page after that |
| 19:13.35 | carols | i did like the ideas page for sure |
| 19:13.46 | carols | but it is about the whole package :-) |
| 19:13.54 | carols | and combined with the license questions... |
| 19:14.10 | carols | we were already making tough decisions by that point :-( |
| 19:14.18 | tty1 | carols, one thing im curious if it helped.. we got mentors from other projects that were in gsoc on our ideas page, did thaqt help? |
| 19:14.31 | tty1 | i igured having several GSOC projects part of our own might be a selling point |
| 19:14.59 | carols | if you list mentors for your ideas/projects, that helps. we don't specifically care if they've been gsoc mentors in the past. just that you have someone youve identified for the project |
| 19:15.17 | carols | means you've thought through those ideas :-) |
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| 19:15.43 | tty1 | carols, how about to vouche for us then? we had one, but they werent in gsoc last year (but were the previous two).. would it hav helped to pick a different sponsor or to have mroe than one? |
| 19:15.56 | carols | yes, having an org vouch for you as well would have helped a lot |
| 19:16.02 | carols | ok, maybe not *a lot* |
| 19:16.04 | carols | but some |
| 19:16.20 | tty1 | we had one org vouche for us, as i said.. |
| 19:16.26 | tty1 | just wondering if more than one would help |
| 19:16.36 | tty1 | or if it mattered that they werent in last year but were inthe previous 2 |
| 19:17.03 | carols | 1 vs. 2 isnt quite as important. |
| 19:17.16 | carols | just list the person we can contact and we'll go from there |
| 19:17.20 | tty1 | carols, do i have time for 2 more quick questions? |
| 19:17.23 | carols | sure |
| 19:17.47 | tty1 | ok 1 we are an AI company.. did that help.hurt our chances as we may have been seen as a potential competitor with google? does that effect it at all? |
| 19:18.05 | tty1 | *help/hurt |
| 19:18.17 | carols | it was neutral. this particular decision wasn't about what your org is |
| 19:18.26 | carols | AI's cool |
| 19:18.26 | tty1 | carols, great |
| 19:18.40 | tty1 | i was hopping it would help but thought it may actually hurt, glad to hear its int he middle |
| 19:18.42 | tty1 | last question... |
| 19:18.44 | tty1 | When an org has a great application/ideas page and it just comes down to "numbers" (As youve said for a few orgs) then what becomes the determining factor to narrow it down? Is it just a random coin toss, what factors are usually discussed at this stage? |
| 19:18.45 | carols | sure |
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| 19:20.15 | tty1 | carols, oh and when we have students interested in our project, would it help to say "Contact carols and tell her you want to see us in GSoC" .. or would that just be a disruption to you? (i was going to but figured you were already flooded with emails, sorry to throw in a third question) |
| 19:20.15 | carols | it's pretty much a random coin toss. if, for example, we know an org has worked under an umbrella in the past we might cut them and suggest they work under that umbrella again. but basically we just toss a coin. which is why some returning orgs didnt get in this year and so forth |
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| 19:20.35 | carols | tty1: no, please do *not* have them contact me. i get too much mail as it is :-) |
| 19:20.48 | carols | they can email the discuss list though? |
| 19:20.48 | tty1 | carols, thanks, i figured that was the case, and im glad i didnt! |
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| 19:21.03 | carols | if they have a random question they need answered just direct them to the discussion list |
| 19:21.09 | tty1 | carols, well anything else for me that might be worth pointing out? |
| 19:21.22 | carols | nope, i think that covers it |
| 19:21.27 | carols | thanks for applying :-) |
| 19:21.35 | tty1 | carols, well thanks so much for your time, youve done an excellent job this year |
| 19:21.44 | carols | why thank you :-) |
| 19:21.44 | tty1 | great diplomacy :) not the fake kind either |
| 19:21.50 | tty1 | so all the best, thanks a million |
| 19:21.51 | carols | you've very kind |
| 19:21.53 | carols | of course |
| 19:21.55 | carols | cheers |
| 19:21.59 | |Kev| | Ok, so, next up we have JankoMivsek from ESUG |
| 19:22.04 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v JankoMivsek] by |Kev| |
| 19:22.07 | JankoMivsek | Hi Carol. I expect your answer will be in ideas page: http://gsoc2011.esug.org/ideas, comparing to last year one http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas.We missed badly the timeline concerning the collecting of ideas, and it was my fault. |
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| 19:22.28 | carols | JankoMivsek: yeah, unfortunately i agree with you |
| 19:22.43 | JankoMivsek | what about application itself? |
| 19:22.50 | carols | let me look, just a sec |
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| 19:23.27 | carols | the rest of your app looks good, actually |
| 19:23.36 | carols | it was really the ideas page that was the problem |
| 19:24.04 | JankoMivsek | thanks, what about being an umbrella for all Smalltalk projects or applying individually? |
| 19:24.15 | carols | how many are there? :-) |
| 19:24.31 | JankoMivsek | well, hard to say, 10+ |
| 19:24.54 | JankoMivsek | idea is to have an infrastructure in place to admin and run GSoC for all of them |
| 19:25.04 | carols | yeah, i can tell you right now we wouldnt have enough spaces to accept that many projects individually. i would recommend an umbrella |
| 19:25.15 | JankoMivsek | this also helps cohesion in the community |
| 19:25.23 | carols | yeah, i think that's a good idea |
| 19:25.43 | JankoMivsek | ok, so we failed simply because of ideas page? |
| 19:26.15 | carols | yes. i realize it seems simple on the face of it, but we had 430 applications this year, so everyone had stiff competition |
| 19:26.24 | carols | so everything really needed to be perfect :-/ |
| 19:26.43 | JankoMivsek | :) for next year. We were perfect in that respect last year |
| 19:26.48 | carols | great. :-) |
| 19:26.54 | carols | im glad you'll apply again |
| 19:26.56 | JankoMivsek | and built very nice process aand everything |
| 19:27.03 | carols | great |
| 19:27.10 | JankoMivsek | thanks and good luck, you'll need it this year too :) |
| 19:27.17 | carols | thank you very much :-) |
| 19:27.19 | carols | im sure i will |
| 19:27.20 | JankoMivsek | bye |
| 19:27.21 | carols | cheers |
| 19:27.27 | |Kev| | Ok, next up we have Rene[0] from HIPL |
| 19:27.31 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v Rene[0]] by |Kev| |
| 19:27.32 | Rene[0] | hi carols |
| 19:27.35 | Rene[0] | our ideas page: https://sites.google.com/site/hiplwiki/wiki/gsoc2011 |
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| 19:27.36 | carols | hey Rene[0] |
| 19:27.38 | carols | thanks |
| 19:27.51 | Rene[0] | it's the first time we applied so any info would be great |
| 19:28.44 | carols | the ideas page was really good, actually |
| 19:28.50 | carols | let me look at the app |
| 19:28.52 | Rene[0] | thanks |
| 19:30.16 | carols | i would have liked a little more info on your app about how you planned to deal with disappearing students, but overall i was happy with the app as well |
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| 19:30.38 | Rene[0] | so anything specific we should improve for next time |
| 19:30.52 | Rene[0] | are projects like our applicable for gsoc at all? |
| 19:31.11 | carols | yes, absolutely applicable. we liked the project |
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| 19:31.28 | carols | unfortunately this was another tough decision for us :-( |
| 19:31.43 | carols | i dont have much good feedback to offer you, i think you guys did a good job with your app |
| 19:31.49 | Rene[0] | hmm ok |
| 19:32.04 | carols | sorry about that. |
| 19:32.08 | Rene[0] | maybe another org vouching for us would have helped :) |
| 19:32.15 | carols | actually, yes. |
| 19:32.23 | Rene[0] | yeah, we imagined that |
| 19:32.23 | carols | i see you listed someone on here though? |
| 19:32.33 | carols | tom henderson? |
| 19:32.35 | Rene[0] | yeah, we did |
| 19:32.38 | Rene[0] | exactly |
| 19:33.01 | carols | yeah, if you can have him contact me next year that would certainly give you a leg-up |
| 19:33.10 | carols | again, not a guarantee, but it's something |
| 19:33.14 | Rene[0] | great thanks |
| 19:33.16 | Rene[0] | sure |
| 19:33.19 | carols | you're welcome |
| 19:33.23 | Rene[0] | alright thanks a lot |
| 19:33.27 | carols | cheers |
| 19:33.36 | |Kev| | Ok, so, next is omacneil from the Community Software Lab |
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| 19:33.41 | carols | thanks |Kev| |
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| 19:33.45 | omacneil | Hi carols, |
| 19:33.45 | omacneil | thanks for our feedback and for public feedback for other people that also helps us. |
| 19:33.45 | omacneil | Our ideas page is: http://wiki.thecsl.org/mediawiki/index.php/GSOC_ideas_page |
| 19:34.27 | carols | i actually liked that you listed why students shouldnt apply to your org and why you'd reject them :-) |
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| 19:34.34 | carols | that was a nice touch |
| 19:34.46 | omacneil | I always like knowing why I'm rejected :-> |
| 19:35.34 | carols | let me look at your app, just a sec |
| 19:35.42 | omacneil | sure |
| 19:36.29 | carols | omacneil: could you actually contact me via email? i'd like to take this conversation offline |
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| 19:36.45 | carols | my email is carols@google.com |
| 19:36.48 | carols | if you dont have it |
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| 19:37.22 | omacneil | sure. I think I had already submited a request for feedback via email. but then saw this opportunity. I'll resend email |
| 19:37.39 | carols | ok great, thanks. im backed up on email because i've been sick the last couple days |
| 19:37.42 | carols | but i will respond |
| 19:37.56 | omacneil | no worries, I'd made a note to ping you monthly starting May 01 |
| 19:38.20 | carols | haha thanks :-) i'll get back to you way before may though |
| 19:38.36 | omacneil | You are very kind. |
| 19:38.39 | carols | thanks for coming to the meeting anyway |
| 19:38.41 | carols | of course |
| 19:38.57 | |Kev| | Next? |
| 19:39.03 | carols | yes, thanks |Kev| |
| 19:39.06 | |Kev| | Next up reburg, with LispNYC |
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| 19:39.14 | reburg | Hello carols and your enormous well of patience, here's our ideas page http://www.lispnyc.org/soc |
| 19:39.24 | carols | thank you for waiting, reburg |
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| 19:40.28 | carols | reburg: so i had a wee bit of confusion from your ideas page linking sometimes to a description of what the project was but then also sometimes to a bug tracker or to a journal of some sort? |
| 19:41.07 | reburg | ok. we linked to whatever external resource for the project was available, but we'll be sure to make it consistent next time |
| 19:41.52 | carols | well, external resources are great, but I'd like the information about the idea to be easy to digest - difficulty, mentor, use cases, etc. and *then* have other resources the student can check later |
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| 19:42.38 | carols | the rest of your application looks strong, i'm happy with that |
| 19:42.41 | reburg | alright. anything about our application (or more on our ideas page)? |
| 19:42.46 | reburg | great |
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| 19:43.10 | carols | i also didn't get a chance to contact robert, but if you can put him in contact with me before the application deadline that would give you some help as well |
| 19:43.35 | reburg | question: in the past we have had some privately-funded projects. is that a plus, minus? |
| 19:43.49 | carols | reburg: still open source? |
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| 19:44.00 | carols | if open source, we dont care where the funding comes from :-) |
| 19:44.15 | reburg | carols: yes. just funded from other companies when there was a project they had a particular interest in. |
| 19:44.27 | carols | sure, that's fine. we dont care, honestly :-) |
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| 19:45.10 | reburg | alright, so, clear info for you guys on the ideas page seems to be the biggy. anything else we should be aware of? |
| 19:45.31 | carols | having a googler contact is good as well. gives you that extra little bit :-) |
| 19:45.40 | carols | other than that, nothing i can specifically remark on |
| 19:45.55 | carols | just lots of tough decisions this year that came down to ideas pages mostly |
| 19:45.58 | reburg | alright, well thanks for taking this time. it's definitely helpful for our community. |
| 19:46.02 | carols | of course |
| 19:46.05 | carols | thanks for waiting |
| 19:46.08 | carols | and applying |
| 19:46.12 | reburg | we'll be back :) |
| 19:46.20 | carols | glad to hear it :-) |
| 19:46.24 | carols | cheers |
| 19:46.25 | |Kev| | Next up should be akash6190, but they seem to have vanished. |
| 19:46.38 | carols | alright, we can skip and come back if necessary |
| 19:46.39 | |Kev| | After that dholbach or shadeslayer, but they're also not here. |
| 19:46.47 | |Kev| | santaris is also missing. |
| 19:46.53 | carols | alright, well we're moving through the queue quite quickly :-) |
| 19:46.54 | |Kev| | So: ogai with GridCalendar |
| 19:46.57 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v ogai] by |Kev| |
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| 19:47.03 | carols | hey ogai |
| 19:47.12 | ogai | hey carols |
| 19:47.25 | carols | just a sec, need to look at your app |
| 19:47.37 | ogai | carols: ideas page is at http://code.grical.org/wiki/IdeasPage |
| 19:47.42 | carols | thanks |
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| 19:49.25 | carols | ogai: so my feedback for you is going to be similar for a lot of others. we'd like more consistency on your ideas page with difficulty level, potential mentors, and use cases if possible |
| 19:49.28 | carols | the more info the better |
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| 19:49.45 | carols | the *number* of ideas is good, but overall i'd like it to be more well-organized |
| 19:50.13 | carols | easy for the students to bite into and find a project they like and how it fits in with your org |
| 19:50.44 | ogai | carols: thx, we have a lot of mentors availabe. more organized? we have on it the requirements needed for each idea. |
| 19:51.41 | carols | yeah, each idea should have the same consistency of information about it and be well fleshed out |
| 19:51.53 | carols | some on yours are fleshed out, some not. some bullet points, some not. etc |
| 19:52.14 | ogai | carols: is the rejection only because of the ideas page or are there other reasons for the rejection? |
| 19:52.37 | carols | let me check the rest of your app |
| 19:52.49 | ogai | carols: thx |
| 19:53.36 | carols | i'm pretty happy with the rest of the app, it's really the ideas page that needs work. also, if you could have an org vouch for you next year it would certainly give you a leg up in the running |
| 19:53.43 | ogai | carols: some ideas requires more explanation than others, that is why some have bullet points and some not |
| 19:54.03 | carols | understood. it's just a matter of making it easy to digest by the students. |
| 19:54.09 | ogai | carols: we had an org we mentioned in our application: FFII e.V. |
| 19:54.15 | carols | user-friendly as it were :-) |
| 19:55.01 | carols | hope that helps |
| 19:55.14 | ogai | carols: ok thx a lot for you time |
| 19:55.21 | carols | you're welcome, thanks for waiting |
| 19:55.30 | carols | cheers |
| 19:55.35 | |Kev| | Next up, akash6190 from praixan. |
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| 19:55.44 | carols | thanks akash6190 for waiting |
| 19:55.48 | carols | let me get your app |
| 19:55.49 | akash6190 | Hi |
| 19:55.57 | akash6190 | I'm the backup-admin actually. |
| 19:56.06 | akash6190 | Organization name : Pragyan CMS (sorry for Typo :) |
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| 19:56.24 | carols | great, thanks |
| 19:56.49 | akash6190 | so any feedback would be appreciated .. actually we're a group of student and we applied first time. |
| 19:57.01 | carols | we'd like to see a lot more information on your ideas page. |
| 19:57.01 | akash6190 | Anything you can tell us that'd help us get next time. |
| 19:57.19 | akash6190 | Hmm, alright, like implementation details ? |
| 19:57.27 | carols | we'd like you to break it down by difficulty level, use cases, potential mentors, and more information about your org and how you'd like it included |
| 19:57.32 | carols | yes, implementation details |
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| 19:57.58 | akash6190 | Hmm.. alright we'll work on the ideas page.. |
| 19:58.09 | carols | the application itself looks fine |
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| 19:58.21 | carols | but the ideas page needed a lot of work |
| 19:58.26 | akash6190 | What about other things ? and do our project needs to really popular to get accepted ? |
| 19:58.46 | carols | no, popularity isn't a factor |
| 19:59.12 | akash6190 | Then are you telling me we got rejected only because of our ideas page :( ?? |
| 19:59.15 | carols | we made tough decisions this year and we focus a lot on the quality of the ideas page |
| 19:59.18 | carols | yep |
| 19:59.28 | akash6190 | damn ! |
| 19:59.34 | carols | i've had to tell a lot of people that, sorry |
| 20:00.07 | carols | hope that helps |
| 20:00.14 | carols | i'd encourage you to apply next year |
| 20:00.17 | akash6190 | Anyways, this was our first time. I hope you guys would show same generosity with new projects next year too :) |
| 20:00.25 | akash6190 | Yeah it helps a lot. and yes we'll surely apply. |
| 20:00.30 | carols | we'll certainly try :-) |
| 20:00.57 | carols | great, who's next? |
| 20:01.02 | |Kev| | That's your lot. |
| 20:01.02 | akash6190 | Ok thanks then ... I hope thats it .. Bye ! |
| 20:01.09 | carols | wow, that's it? |
| 20:01.12 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v akash6190] by |Kev| |
| 20:01.17 | carols | serves cookies to celebrate |
| 20:01.29 | |Kev| | If anyone else thinks they should be in the queue and aren't, please say so in #gsoc-rejects. |
| 20:01.35 | carols | thanks |Kev| |
| 20:01.38 | |Kev| | And if not, I'll open the floor again in a moment. |
| 20:01.49 | carols | ill wait a few more minutes and then we can release the hounds :-) |
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| 20:02.02 | |Kev| | Thanks carols, I only did a couple of minutes of voicing - kai did hours, and you did more :) |
| 20:02.17 | carols | i think its only fair :-) |
| 20:02.21 | allman | I'd like to jump in here and call for a round of applause for Carol! |
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| 20:02.30 | carols | blushes |
| 20:02.32 | carols | thanks allman |
| 20:02.35 | |Kev| | allman: Which'd work better if the channel wasn't moderated :) |
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| 20:02.47 | |Kev| | But I'll drink (water) to that. |
| 20:02.53 | |Kev| | carols: Shall I release the hounds? |
| 20:03.01 | allman | Okay - everyone clap silently for Carol :) |
| 20:03.03 | carols | |Kev|: we can release everyone, if anyone needs to ask me something they can do it here |
| 20:03.08 | *** mode/#gsoc [-m] by |Kev| |
| 20:03.18 | gevaerts | gives carols some chocolate to recover |
| 20:03.23 | carols | thanks gevaerts :-) |
| 20:03.27 | gevaerts | You're welcome! |
| 20:03.35 | |Kev| | Guess I should give back the keys now! |
| 20:03.43 | carols | i'm going to trundle off to lunch for a couple minutes but please let people know i'll be back later if they come asking for me |
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| 20:03.48 | dhaun | that was what - 4 hours of feedback? just wow |
| 20:04.42 | allman | Yay! Carol!!! |
| 20:04.54 | |Kev| | Indeed. |
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| 20:07.02 | downeym | carols++ |
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| 20:13.19 | felipevieira | are the feedbacks finished? |
| 20:15.11 | |Kev| | Yes. |
| 20:15.24 | |Kev| | But if you missed the (four hour!) meeting, carols will be back in a bit. |
| 20:17.12 | felipevieira | no, no, i was just curious, the channel got silent suddenly |
| 20:17.26 | |Kev| | It was moderated for the duration. |
| 20:17.47 | gevaerts | Everyone suddenly felt fully fed (back) |
| 20:19.22 | protoss_Z | is anyone here from the GIMP project? |
| 20:19.30 | |Kev| | !anyone |
| 20:19.30 | socinfo | |Kev|: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 20:20.44 | felipevieira | !next |
| 20:20.44 | socinfo | felipevieira: "next" is March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
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| 20:29.39 | schilly | since gsoc grew so big, are there ideas to split it up? e.g. into game related projects, scientific, education, utilities/online tools/..., system/low level/programming, ... ? |
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| 20:33.24 | carols | im back |
| 20:33.27 | carols | can i help anyone? |
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| 20:35.41 | carols | ok |
| 20:35.49 | carols | serves cookies and plops down on the open source couch |
| 20:35.57 | gevaerts | Yay! |
| 20:36.17 | gevaerts | eats cookies and waits for the couch to magically expand so he can sit down too |
| 20:36.18 | dotnick | nomnom |
| 20:36.42 | carols | magically expands couch for gevaerts |
| 20:36.46 | borja | wakes from his slumber to eat cookies |
| 20:36.51 | gevaerts | sits down |
| 20:36.53 | gevaerts | carols: thanks! |
| 20:37.06 | dotnick | gevaerts: it's open source, you can modify the code :) |
| 20:37.14 | carols | indeed :-) |
| 20:37.23 | gevaerts | dotnick: yes, but compiling takes a while :) |
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| 20:37.40 | |Kev| | carols: I don't know how you managed to keep going through that. I barely stayed awake :) |
| 20:38.01 | gevaerts | |Kev|: easy. You're not as awesome as carols :) |
| 20:38.06 | carols | |Kev|: a sense of responsibility to the rejected orgs. |
| 20:38.14 | |Kev| | gevaerts: Well, obviously. |
| 20:38.25 | carols | aw thank you gevaerts |
| 20:38.47 | |Kev| | carols: Unless you have a base level of knowledge about my awesomeness, that needn't be saying much, sorry. |
| 20:39.03 | carols | haha fair enougj |
| 20:39.06 | carols | enough |
| 20:39.12 | gevaerts | |Kev|: don't try to undermine my compliments! |
| 20:39.26 | |Kev| | gevaerts: You got the cookies and the couch, what more do you want? :) |
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| 20:40.14 | gevaerts | hm |
| 20:40.41 | dotnick | |Kev|: feel free to fork a couch yourself |
| 20:40.43 | dotnick | :p |
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| 20:40.54 | |Kev| | How very dare y...oh, right. |
| 20:41.34 | sfb | Despite being rejected sounds like i'll umbrella under WF again. |
| 20:41.45 | |Kev| | sfb: Pleased to hear it. |
| 20:42.01 | sfb | Which is cool because we've alreaady had three students approach us, it'll be nice to keep them engaged. |
| 20:42.46 | |Kev| | I've just had a conversation with a student who's making good progress on one of our teaser tasks. |
| 20:42.51 | |Kev| | This is pretty exciting :) |
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| 20:49.58 | sfb | WF does a 'test' too. I think building Ryzom Core, launching a shard, and making an edit (following a wiki article) and viewing it.... That's ennough right there. (; |
| 20:50.14 | sfb | We had the same problem in openNMS a few years ago. |
| 20:50.25 | sfb | Just getting a student to build it was like the first week. |
| 20:50.36 | sfb | This year it's part of our 'test' for the application. |
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| 20:51.29 | sfb | Anyway, gotta go! |
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| 20:52.27 | rrix | is amazed carols just spent four hours at that and is still breathing/awake :) |
| 20:52.54 | carols | so am i, rrix :-) |
| 20:53.02 | rrix | hehehe |
| 20:53.44 | rrix | It seems like most all of the orgs which were there were only rejected because of tiny little things... Kinda sad :( |
| 20:54.32 | reality | rrix: this is unfortate |
| 20:54.35 | reality | wait |
| 20:54.36 | reality | unfortunate |
| 20:55.25 | rrix | howdy reality. How goes the UK? |
| 20:58.08 | reality | rrix: it goes well I suppose. particularly welsh at the moment. university going well. yourself? |
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| 20:59.56 | rrix | reality: I'm going. Getting caught up on classes, and just trying to scrape by my classes :) |
| 21:00.30 | reality | rrix: fair enough. my attendance is awful this semester due to illness etc, average of about 50% 0.0 |
| 21:00.43 | reality | I'm sure you've seen the whining on the identiverse ;) |
| 21:00.56 | rrix | a bit ;P |
| 21:01.06 | rrix | But, that's understandable |
| 21:01.11 | reality | nods |
| 21:01.28 | rrix | has had a bit of a cold for a while now, paired with early classes some days == missing classes |
| 21:01.44 | reality | ndos |
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| 21:07.26 | dberkholz | rrix: same way it goes with students, when you've got more good ones than you have slots |
| 21:07.32 | dberkholz | the little things make the difference |
| 21:07.55 | dberkholz | because everyone got all the big things right |
| 21:08.08 | rrix | dberkholz: I have a feeling I'll be finding that out myself in a few weeks :( |
| 21:08.32 | rrix | The mentors in fedora have been getting a lot of interested students |
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| 21:22.12 | nickbarnesccf | I have a question about eligibility. |
| 21:23.09 | nickbarnesccf | We have a candidate student who has just finished a BSc and has been offered PhD places at (at least) 2 schools. |
| 21:23.51 | nickbarnesccf | I would guess that both the PhD schools have him on their books, and possibly the school where he just finished too. But what counts as 'enrolled'? |
| 21:24.31 | carols | nickbarnesccf: if the school will issue an acceptance letter to him |
| 21:25.09 | nickbarnesccf | carols: thank you. I'll tell him. He's the sort of guy who will have this in hand anyway. |
| 21:25.15 | carols | great |
| 21:25.49 | |Kev| | A PhD student who isn't completely disorganised? Unpossible :) |
| 21:26.22 | dberkholz | he's not yet a grad student =) |
| 21:26.33 | |Kev| | Ah, that's allowed then. |
| 21:28.40 | nickbarnesccf | (the two schools are both top-ten. |
| 21:28.55 | nickbarnesccf | whereas I can't even close my parentheses, damnit) |
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| 21:31.56 | rafl | whoa. after reading some of today's meeting backlog i'm feeling really lucky we got accepted |
| 21:32.01 | rafl | our ideas page *sucked* this year |
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| 21:52.38 | tty1 | hey guys |
| 21:52.45 | tty1 | so we are back to being able to talk normally? |
| 21:52.57 | rrix | Yeah |
| 21:52.58 | bahaa | tty1 = tty3 ? |
| 21:53.04 | tty1 | bahaa, yes |
| 21:53.07 | gevaerts | Some of us will never reach that stage |
| 21:53.10 | bahaa | how come 1 =3 ? |
| 21:53.12 | bahaa | xD |
| 21:53.20 | tty1 | everyone should give a nice round of applaus to kai and carols .. they were real troopers :) |
| 21:53.31 | carols | thank tty1 |
| 21:53.33 | tty1 | bahaa, just my backup when i ghost |
| 21:53.33 | topfs2 | rafl, hehe. I know we went for wanting the students to propose ideas much more than us proposing ideas for them to take on, this to force them to use the app and think about what they need. Didn't pan out I guess, then I started looking at other projects and perhaps apply to them and I saw that our approach was probably not good, reading about suggestions really was helpful |
| 21:53.36 | topfs2 | live and learn I guess :) |
| 21:53.39 | tty1 | carols, oh your still here :) |
| 21:54.04 | carols | tty1: i try to be here as much as possible |
| 21:54.17 | tty1 | carols, sleep is for the weak anyway! :) |
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| 21:54.34 | tty1 | carols, is GSoC your primary duty at google then? (if you dont mind me asking) |
| 21:54.35 | rrix | wishes he could sleep for the week |
| 21:54.46 | carols | tty1: yes, it's my job |
| 21:54.47 | bahaa | i'm sure it is |
| 21:55.12 | tty1 | carols, ahh cool, i figured you probably had like 2 or 3 different things you did at google |
| 21:55.32 | tty1 | carols, my buddy may start working at google this yea, ill have him say hi to you if he takes the job :) |
| 21:55.35 | carols | tty1: yeah, i also run the Google Code-in program and help host conferences on site. |
| 21:55.39 | carols | sure, sounds good |
| 21:56.03 | tty1 | carols, ahh sounds like a great job im sure you love it (open-source is a great field to work in IMO) |
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| 21:56.43 | tty1 | were both pretty lucky IMO to get paid to work with OSS :) |
| 21:57.01 | carols | yeah, i love my job. i have the best job at google :-) |
| 21:57.35 | tty1 | carols, yea i saw ya in a few photos when trying to figure out who you were a few days back.. you always had one of those goofy "im so happy" smiles on your face :) |
| 21:57.47 | carols | thanks :-) |
| 21:58.25 | dberkholz | heh, i walk around with those regularly |
| 21:58.32 | dberkholz | my wife always makes fun of me for it |
| 21:58.36 | tty1 | carols, i interviewed for google once years ago when i was in the limelight and getting attention.. i wonder how things would be different if i accepted the job :) |
| 21:58.48 | carols | tty1: yep, i can imagine so :-) |
| 21:59.03 | tty1 | dberkholz, haha yea me too, i always have a goofy smile on my face like im 10 :) |
| 21:59.49 | dotnick | carols is so happy her hair turned pink last year :p |
| 21:59.53 | Ophiuchi | . o O (an image of a person can tell you who they are?) |
| 22:00.04 | tty1 | dotnick, haha i saw that picture.. digging the hair carols :) |
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| 22:00.11 | carols | thanks tty1 |
| 22:00.19 | gjoseph | !meeting |
| 22:00.19 | socinfo | gjoseph: "meeting" is The IRC meeting for rejected orgs is 16:00 UTC on 22 March in this channel. |
| 22:00.21 | carols | tty1: what picture did you see, anyway? |
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| 22:00.25 | gjoseph | damn. |
| 22:00.32 | gevaerts | is happy because he just figured out that he can extend while(--*--*--*--*--*--*i--) indefinitely while still having it be valid C :) |
| 22:00.39 | gjoseph | *kind of* missed the metting |
| 22:00.42 | dotnick | carols: mentors summit last year |
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| 22:01.03 | tty1 | carols, the one with the pink hair was you sitting with a large group behind you on the steps in google.. the other picture i saw was of a profile of yours (with some sort of brownish bunny ears hat on of some sort, and a link to your blog and stuff) |
| 22:01.12 | carols | ah, ok |
| 22:01.13 | carols | cool |
| 22:01.25 | rrix | gevaerts: That makes me ... love... C so much more |
| 22:01.26 | rrix | :P |
| 22:01.46 | tty1 | carols, i can research for the link if youd like, its not like i saved it or anything (cause then id be a stalker, and we cant have that, lol) |
| 22:01.51 | gevaerts | gjoseph: if you manage to get carols' attention I'm sure you can still get feedback |
| 22:02.02 | carols | tty1: no, no worries. i was just curious :-) |
| 22:02.09 | tty1 | carols, :) |
| 22:02.31 | gjoseph | gevaerts: eh thanks- let's try that ^^ |
| 22:02.33 | carols | gjoseph: you have my attention, but could you please email me? i just had a 4 hour meeting and i have 100 emails to respond to. |
| 22:02.35 | gjoseph | carols ? ^ |
| 22:02.49 | gjoseph | sure - eh, no pressure |
| 22:03.21 | tty1 | gjoseph, (be sure to ask for her email if you dont have it) |
| 22:03.32 | gevaerts | rrix: spot the odd * out in while(--*--*--*--*i--*--*--*--*--*i--) :) |
| 22:03.52 | gjoseph | that's what i was checking - i don't - so erm carols, if you wouldn't mind ... |
| 22:03.53 | rrix | arghhh |
| 22:04.02 | carols | carols@google.com |
| 22:04.04 | tty1 | gjoseph, carols@google.com |
| 22:04.08 | tty1 | ahh she beat me to it :) |
| 22:04.09 | gjoseph | that was easy |
| 22:04.11 | gjoseph | thanks |
| 22:04.20 | tty1 | anyway im going back to idle mode here till next year |
| 22:04.22 | rrix | notes that you don't mail carols@gmail.com like he has before. :) |
| 22:04.39 | carols | rrix: did that person respond? i'm kind of curious |
| 22:04.45 | tty1 | carols, thanks so much again carols for all the time (if there is a place i can provide feedback to help your superiors at google know you did a good job let me know id be happy to give it) |
| 22:05.19 | carols | tty1: thank you. my superiors were watching the meeting, so it's all good |
| 22:05.43 | tty1 | carols, oh great then! ::Waves to the omnious camera watching him:: |
| 22:05.47 | tty1 | carols, see ya next year! |
| 22:05.53 | carols | see you next year tty1 |
| 22:06.18 | rrix | carols: "You have the wrong email address, I think" when I sent them my tax forms. :) |
| 22:06.31 | carols | rrix: ah, ok. so at least they weren't mad |
| 22:06.46 | rrix | Nor did they steal my identity, afiact, so also good :) |
| 22:06.49 | gevaerts | rrix: "*I* have the correct email address! It's *you* who doesn't!" :) |
| 22:07.17 | rrix | gevaerts: "This is clearly carols, isn't it? Why can't you take care of these forms then? Imposter!" |
| 22:07.28 | rrix | stops needlessly pinging |
| 22:07.38 | gevaerts | rrix: was there mention of tea and cookies? |
| 22:07.57 | rrix | Naw, I don't think they were that friendly. Just kindly told me I'd f*cked up ;) |
| 22:08.10 | rrix | oh. I have a lab report to write. |
| 22:08.13 | rrix | dives back in |
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| 22:09.00 | kai | carols: got a moment? |
| 22:09.26 | carols | kai: sure |
| 22:09.33 | kai | pm? |
| 22:09.44 | carols | yep |
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| 22:29.51 | asmeurer_ | !numapps |
| 22:29.51 | socinfo | asmeurer_: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
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| 22:32.36 | kai | night folks |
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| 23:05.26 | newbintraining | I love lamp. |
| 23:05.59 | gevaerts | GET LAMP |
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| 23:18.21 | sumanah | kai or another op: please change the channel topic to mention where one can view the channel log? |
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| 23:22.26 | ojwb | !logs |
| 23:22.26 | socinfo | ojwb: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 23:22.33 | ojwb | sumanah: ^ |
| 23:22.50 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> Welcome to Google Summer of Code 2011!Mentoring organizations are announced: http://goo.gl/VcRUV. Please read the FAQs - http://goo.gl/Up2Qf and the Timeline - http://goo.gl/0lYPz for more info. |
| 23:22.53 | sumanah | thank you, ojwb |
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| 23:29.47 | greeniekin | !next |
| 23:29.47 | socinfo | greeniekin: "next" is March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
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| 23:36.56 | tty1 | is it to late for my org to try to get in as a part of another under an umbrella |
| 23:36.59 | tty1 | if so how does that work? |
| 23:38.47 | carols | tty1: no, it's not too late. just contact the org you're interested in working with and tell them you'd like to |
| 23:39.29 | carols | tty1: i'd recommend reaching out to one of the larger foundations, though, since they already have the structure in place to support you |
| 23:39.43 | greeniekin | tty1: what org is it? Just out of curiosity. |
| 23:40.07 | tty1 | carols, wont that take away from their own student count? and will it make us less likely to get in next year since you mentioned that sometimes can be recomended for orgs who were umbrelled in the past? |
| 23:40.35 | tty1 | greeniekin, Syncleus, the project is dANN (#dANN on here).. let me show yopu our would-be ideas page this year |
| 23:41.00 | carols | tty1: no, they will get slots for both of you since they're set up to be an umbrella already. it would probably help you to have a recommendation from their org next year too, yes |
| 23:41.14 | tty1 | greeniekin, http://wiki.syncleus.com/index.php/dANN:Roadmap |
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| 23:42.03 | tty1 | carols, so do we need to find an org that is specifically an umbrella or would any do? and should we find a fellow AI org or would any org do ? id think keeping it on-topic might help? |
| 23:42.27 | carols | tty1: you should start with the umbrella orgs first. they already have a structure in place to support you. |
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| 23:42.56 | tty1 | carols, cool any idea if there is a list specifically of umbrella orgs, or how i dentify if an org is an umbrella at all? |
| 23:43.00 | konr | Meh, I wish there was a roguelike game on GSoC |
| 23:43.16 | konr | "SpaceFortress": a clone of dwarf fortress |
| 23:43.47 | carols | tty1: try apache software foundation and the python software foundation first |
| 23:44.29 | tty1 | carols, but can we use python as our umbrella even if our own org isnt written in python? |
| 23:44.42 | tty1 | or our own projecti should say |
| 23:44.49 | carols | tty1: it depends. please talk to them about it. they can also direct you elsewhere if needed :-) |
| 23:45.19 | tty1 | carols, thanks ill drop them an email, any other orgs you can point me to to look at if they wind up being deadends? |
| 23:45.43 | carols | tty1: please email me if you need more help. im about to head offline. it's been a long day :-) |
| 23:46.41 | tty1 | carols, of course, thanks ill try not to bug ya too much thopugh, sleep well you earned it! |
| 23:46.46 | carols | thanks :-) |
| 23:48.05 | mmadia | hi carols. did you get my email about the GSoC logo for flyers? |
| 23:48.44 | carols | mmadia: yes. i currently have 78 emails i need to respond to so it'll need to wait |
| 23:48.58 | mmadia | sure thing :) |
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| 23:50.23 | tty1 | thinks carols needs a bot that reports how many e-mails she has every few minutes :) |
| 23:50.39 | carols | yep |
| 23:50.48 | tty1 | thankfully google has pretty good spam filtering :) |
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| 23:51.19 | tty1 | do the @google.com email addresses even go through the gmail.com interface? or do you guys get the good stuff, lol |
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| 23:54.22 | carols | tty1: yeah, we have the same interface all gmail users have. we have extra internal features, that's all |
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| 23:54.34 | DrJoel | waves hi |
| 23:54.55 | carols | hi DrJoel |
| 23:55.04 | tty1 | carols, cool yea i figured would be something like that, in fact i guess googlers had access to gmail long before the general public in fact :) |
| 23:55.15 | carols | yeah :-) |
| 23:55.26 | DrJoel | carols: I tried to watch the gsoc-rejects for new tips.. were there any new tips or insights to pass along? |
| 23:55.47 | rrix | So you guys don't secretely use Zimbra? ;) |
| 23:55.58 | carols | DrJoel: new insights? nope. same advice as most years: please make an awesome ideas page and cross your fingers |
| 23:56.03 | carols | ok, i'm going home everyone |
| 23:56.08 | carols | email me if you need anything |
| 23:56.10 | carols | ttyl |
| 23:56.10 | DrJoel | night |
| 23:56.26 | rrix | have a good night |
| 23:56.34 | rrix | D; |
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